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January 14, 2025 / 01:06:33

This episode covers the case of Sierra Jogan, who went missing in July 2016, and the subsequent investigation that led to the arrest of James Dean Worley. The hosts, Nick and Captain, discuss the details surrounding Sierra's disappearance, her last known whereabouts, and the evidence found in the search for her.

Sierra Jogan, a 20-year-old student at the University of Toledo, was last seen riding her bicycle after parting ways with her boyfriend, Josh. Her bike was discovered in a cornfield, along with items indicating a struggle. Local law enforcement quickly focused on James Worley, a known mechanic living nearby, after finding bloodied items linked to him.

The investigation revealed disturbing evidence at Worley's property, including a secured freezer with blood, zip ties, and restraints. The hosts detail the timeline of events leading to the discovery of Sierra's body three days after her disappearance, buried in a shallow grave near Worley's home.

Worley, who had a previous conviction for abduction, was charged with aggravated murder and other offenses. The episode raises questions about his potential history of similar crimes and the failures of the justice system that allowed him to be released previously.

Throughout the discussion, Nick and Captain emphasize the impact of Sierra's tragic story on her family and community, while also highlighting the ongoing investigation into Worley's past and possible additional victims.

TLDR

Sierra Jogan went missing in 2016; James Worley was arrested for her murder after disturbing evidence was found at his property.

Episode

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Welcome to True Crime Garage. Wherever you are, whatever you are doing, thanks for listening. I'm your host Nick, and
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with me is a man that can only be described as the Brian Wilson of Snapchat. The Captain. Happy, happy, happy
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birthday to you, to you, to you. Olé. Well, thank you, Captain. A big happy birthday to Nick.
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And it's good to be seen, and it's good to see you. So, the Brian Wilson of Snapchat, that means that you just you
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just roll around in your bed? Yeah, I just like to wake up and just Snapchat from my bed. And then you hit then you
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hit snooze and go back to sleep. Yeah, I go for another 3 hours. That's why there's no bed in the garage because we
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can't have you being the Brian Wilson of podcast as Well, I'll say I'm a giant bear and I
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need my sleep. This week, Captain, we are drinking Not Normal by Five Toes Brewing. This is a
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very special amber beer, very delicious. I give it four and a quarter bottle caps
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out of five for our garage grade, and this was sent to us by one of our very good friends, John in Virginia. John is
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a home brewer, so we are having our very first home brewed beer here in the garage. Big shout out to John. He was
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serving this great country. He was in the army and back in 2009, he was stationed in Iraq and he was injured
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pretty badly by a roadside bomb. So, we want to thank John for his sacrifice. Thank him for his service as well. He
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was injured pretty badly and he is now left with only five toes and that's where he gets the great name Five Toes
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Brewing. So, thank you John for this delicious beer. We're drinking them tonight. We toast you, our friend, and
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thank you to all the men and women that have served this great country and a big
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shout out to my buddy Weird Mike. Thanks for the great beer. This stuff is certainly garage worthy and is shelf
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worthy as well. So, stick with the brewing, John. We are looking forward to another batch. All right, that's enough
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of the business. That's right. Gather round, grab a chair, grab a beer. I got mine and it's not normal. Well, you're
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definitely not normal. Let's talk some true crime. This is True Crime Garage and this is
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the case of James Dean Worley. The Fulton County Sheriff says authorities located the body in an area
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around County Road 7 Friday night. Positive identification will be made through either fingerprints or DNA.
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But at this time, we strongly believe that this is Sierra. Local, state, and federal investigators searched the
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grounds and ponds in that area, including the nearby home and barn of the suspect, James Worley, who is
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currently charged with abduction. Additional charges against Worley are pending. I want to express my heartfelt
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condolences to Sierra's family. At this time, our investigation will remain ongoing.
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But, we do anticipate additional charges against the suspect. 20-year-old Sierra Jagan of Metamora was
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a junior at the University of Toledo. She was last spotted riding back home alone on County Road 6 after parting
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ways with her boyfriend. Her bike was found in a cornfield off County Road 6. Law enforcement has been professional
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and unswerving in their efforts. A family spokesperson thanked volunteers and authorities for their help and is
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asking the public for privacy during this horrific time. Sierra was a remarkable young lady
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with a contagious smile. She was a loving person who has touched many people in her life.
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We miss her and we'll always love her. 20-year-old Sierra Jagan was a student at the University of Toledo in Ohio. She
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was out with her boyfriend on July 19th, 2016. They were riding bikes in rural Fulton
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County, which is west of Toledo. Sierra Sierra's boyfriend, Josh, he was riding his motorcycle
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and Sierra was on her bicycle. Josh said that they were riding together and at about 6:45 p.m., they had parted
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ways. So, Sierra was last seen by her boyfriend around 6:45 on July 19th. She was riding her purple bicycle on County
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Road 7. This is an area near where she lives in Northwestern Ohio. According to search warrants from the
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Fulton County Sheriff's Department, And this is where her and Josh grew up at. Yeah, yeah, and they had been together
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for quite some time, right? Yeah, they started dating in middle school. And and knew each other since they were
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children. Yeah, and so she's 20 at this time and she's in college. I don't know if Josh was in college at the time, but
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this is a very long-term relationship and I believe she wrote her bike to Josh's
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house. And he's he's kind of riding alongside of her on his motorcycle. Well, yeah,
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she rode to his house and I think she's going to ride her bike back from his house to her house. And we even came
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across a picture. Uh Josh has appears to have taken a picture with his cell phone. Yeah, I'm
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guessing that it is a Snapchat of some kind. Um I'm not 100% sure on that. It seems like
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in the corner there's like a little timer thing, so maybe that's a Snapchat photo.
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Uh obviously he took a screenshot of that and he posted on social media. And what he said in that post was, "If
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you have seen Sierra, let me know. This is what uh this is what she was wearing."
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Uh I'm sorry that I kind of said that a little funny. He posted Um I don't want to be the grammar police
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cuz we know everybody knows that listens to the show. We're not Grammar doesn't exist in the garage.
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Right. So, uh he just kind of misspoke a couple times or misstext, I guess. But he posted that on social
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media, "If you have seen Sierra, let me know. This is what she was wearing." And
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you can see in the photo he's taken a selfie. He's on his motorcycle and You you can barely see him though in the
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picture. Yeah, he's like Yeah, he's just in in corner. Um I'll post that on Instagram
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at True Crime Garage. And you can see her in the back, purple bike, like a mountain bike. Yeah, it's
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kind of like over his shoulder, you see her on her purple bicycle. Yeah, and she's wearing, you know, um, like
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official biking attire, it looked to me, or or athletic gear. workout gear, CrossFit, cross training, whatever you
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call it. Yeah, and so, and then in the back of that, it looks like there's some corn fields. So, again, I'll post that
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on Instagram and anybody can check that out at True Crime Garage. According to search warrants from the
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Fulton County Sheriff's Department, her boyfriend had exchanged text messages with Sierra for a few hours that evening
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before she suddenly went quiet. He tried to reach her repeatedly that night, but
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all of his calls went to her voicemail. Sierra was reported missing by her family Tuesday night, July 19th. Yeah,
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so my question is, how far cuz they she was coming back home and he was on his motorcycle for just a little bit,
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but he then exchanged text messages with her for a while after that. Mhm. And that's what I find odd, is so,
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how far was this bike ride home, or did she go home and just was not seen and then she went back out on her on her
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bike again? I don't know that answer. I'm guessing she may not have come home. Uh, the her mother, Sheila, said that
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she knew something was wrong very soon. She knew that evening that something terribly wrong was going on with Sierra.
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Uh, and she knew that the moment that Sierra didn't answer her phone. So, police are fully wrapped up in looking
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for Sierra, who is who has now been reported missing by her family. I do want to point out that the police were
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quick to announce that Sierra's boyfriend, Josh, was fully cooperating in the investigation and he was not
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considered a suspect. Yeah, and I think rightfully so cuz this is not just her high school sweetheart.
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This is her middle school sweetheart. They met when they were 10. They become best friends
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at a very young age, and then they start dating and in a small community like this,
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uh you're more, you know, you quickly become more than just a boyfriend. You start becoming a part of
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the other your significant other's family. Well, and the other thing that I'm guessing too here, Captain, is when they
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say that he, that Josh, the boyfriend, is fully cooperating, they're probably talking about things like what was
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leading up to the last time you saw her. Okay, well, I was on my motorcycle. Here's my motorcycle. You know, check
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check out my motorcycle. Check out the picture I took. Here's my phone. Look at the text messages. Look at what she sent
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back to me. Here, take my phone all night and next week if you want to. Yeah, and this is uh Northwest Ohio.
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This is, you know, kind of a rural area. Definitely definitely rural area especially the the county road that she
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was on. Yeah, and and uh Fulton County, um 2010, they say had a population of over
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42,000. Uh Which could sound like a lot, but it's not a lot when you compare it to
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the area, to the the the size of the area. Yeah, and Fulton County was named after Robert
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Fulton, the inventor of the steamboat, and I-90 goes through this. Mhm. So, you'll hear a lot of cases where
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people talk about I-90. We've We've had a lot of cases where we talk about I-90.
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Which is a highway, uh interstate, travel, you know, travels from state to state. And we should point out that this
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area of Ohio is northwestern Ohio, and it's all it's very close to the Michigan border. Yeah, and so just a
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approximation now, everybody's thinking, "Fulton County, I've never heard of that."
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Um this is 45 minutes away from Toledo. This is an hour and a half away from Ann
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Arbor, Michigan, uh, and about an hour and 15 minutes from Findlay, Ohio. Okay. So, after Sierra's family reported her
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missing, the police start to search the area where she was last seen. Again, this was County Road 7. During the
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search, uh, they come across a cornfield. Now, if you look at a map of the area, you will see that there are
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plenty of cornfields that line the these these county roads that are up in that area.
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Mhm. Uh, and in one of these cornfields, they find her purple bike. Uh, they also find evidence of a
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struggle. They find two pairs of sunglasses, one which belonged to Sierra, and they also find a screwdriver
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and a motorcycle helmet, which is covered in human blood. Yeah, let me pull up this picture real quick. Um,
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da da, cuz I want to see in the picture, yeah, in the picture she's wearing sunglasses. Uh, Josh is wearing
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sunglasses as well. Now, the the sheriff, uh, Roy Miller, he was quick to point out, you know, after
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announcing the findings, uh, finding her bike and some of these other items, I don't know that they were fully, uh, up
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front with the other items that were found, but they did say that they had seen evidence of a struggle and a
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possible abduction, and he wanted to make it very clear to everyone that their number one goal was still that
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they have not located Sierra. Their number one goal was to find her. After finding these items that we just
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listed, the sheriff's department continued their search of the area, combing the areas around the county road
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for additional clues and leads. They come across the property of a James Dean Worley.
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Now, what I couldn't figure out is is this James's property, or is this his mother's or his brother's property? Or
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maybe it's just like a collective family property. I read one article where it said that he had lived with his mom and
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his brother. Um, I The only other article that I was able to confirm that with was there was another article that
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stated that he lived with his mother and a neighbor that lived near them. He had
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complained to her about his mother's growing uh medical cost. Yeah, well, she was in a nursing home. She was like 99
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years old. Right. Um, now here's one thing that I've wondered about here, Captain.
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Now, the police found the motorcycle helmet, right? Yeah, and it supposedly had uh human blood on it.
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I'm wondering if, you know, did they just stop at every home along the county roads there and go up and question the
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person or did they happen to see, you know, from from the road, from the view of the road, were they able to see
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a motorcycle in the driveway or up by the house or near a barn or something and think, well,
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And when they were looking for um some kind of suspect, they were looking for somebody on a motorcycle.
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And that's where it gets a little interesting with Josh because uh like we said, Sierra's boyfriend Josh was on a
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motorcycle. So, did they see James Warbley or did they actually see Josh on a motorcycle?
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Well, either way, it brings them to James Warbley. Yeah, they end up at Warbley.
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at Warbley's property. And for whatever reason, whether they saw the motorcycle or not, they decide, let's go talk to
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This is right, but this is also not a huge town, right? It's not a huge uh county. And at the time, um
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Warbley is known to be a small engine mechanic. And he basically runs a small engine um repair shop out of his barn.
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Mhm. And he did a lot of work for neighbors and people that lived in the area. I'm
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guessing you could take your uh you lawnmower lawnmower, anything with a small engine,
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you know, maybe dirt bike or whatever. Yeah, probably mainly two-strokes. So, they decide that they want to talk
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to the person that resides at this property. And when authorities talk to James Worley,
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he had told them that his motorcycle had broken down very near the same location
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where they had found the missing woman's bike, the motorcycle helmet and other items earlier. And of course, Worley
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said that he had lost his helmet, he had lost his screwdriver, sunglasses, and some fuses for his bike. Now, of course,
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these are are precisely the items that were found at the scene. And it was not made public that any of these items were
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found. But what is also extremely suspicious, James Worley said something that the
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investigators found quite strange. He made the comments that he didn't steal anything or kill anyone.
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Yeah. And the persons conducting the interviews observed what they appeared to be fresh marks on the arms of James
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Worley. And what appeared to be bruising on his lower legs. That is just a silly
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remark by anybody. Oh, I didn't steal anything and by the way, I didn't kill anybody. Yeah, my my bike just broke
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down and and I Hey hey captain, how was your weekend? Well, I didn't steal anything and I didn't kill anybody.
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Yeah. The now the sheriff's department has what they call probable cause and what I call 100 arrows all pointing at
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the 57-year-old weird dude living in the country that just admitted leaving his bloodied motorcycle helmet right next to
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the missing woman's bicycle. So, this is when they get their search warrant. And
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when the authorities went and executed a search warrant at James Worley's property, what what found was even more
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disturbing. They find blood on Worley's motorcycle at the property. They also find a trove
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of items that are commonly used to commit criminal activity, more specifically abductions.
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They find zip ties, a ski mask, and mace. All these items were found in Worley's truck.
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A further search revealed a barn that had an area concealed by bales of hay. Nearby was a secured freezer that had
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blood in it. Now, there's no details on whether it was the blood itself was linked to Sierra's or to the suspect.
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But, let's think about this for a second. A secured freezer. So, he has a a freezer that locks. And they find some
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blood inside of it. Well, it's like carpet-lined freezer. And Which is odd. I've never seen a
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carpet-lined freezer. And authorities also found duct tape, several pairs of female panties,
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journals, maps, and a nanny cam on his property. A nanny cam. And there's no like baby or anything.
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There's no nanny. Right. Or baby. Uh authorities also find The nanny cam isn't It's like to spy on your nanny, is
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it? Well, No. Well, keep an eye on the nanny so she's not punching the kid. Mhm. But, anyway, back to the the secret
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room. Okay, this area that was concealed by bales of hay. The secret room contained restraints, and these could
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only be described as for holding humans against their will. It also contained plastic sheeting, ropes, chains, and a
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meat hook. These were all found on the property among other items. So, he's got kind of
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a whole Dexter studio set up there in his in his barn. Yeah, and this barn is I mean, there's
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parts of the barn that look a little dilapidated, but for For most part, it seems like to
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be well up kept and like something that was a functioning and functioning barn that they could use.
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Um probably some some of those parts were used for the engine repair business. Yeah, but clearly he had spent
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some time outfitting a portion of this barn with the Well, the the tough thing with
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with his own James Dean dungeon. Yeah, the problem though with the media and I think everything is that we make this
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huge big deal about all this secret room. Well, it's probably not actual secret room. It's a barn, right? So it
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it's only a secret room because he took this entrance and put bales of hay in front of it. So they just at constantly
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the media is constantly trying to make something sexier than it is. I mean and that's a horrible phrase that people
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use, but oh, it's more intriguing if it's a secret room. No, it just has happens to be a room that he hid with
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bales of hay. Well, but also keep in mind, you know, the the the authorities firmly believe
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that he was probably at the location where her bicycle was found. No, I understand that. And they find this
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room. And so of course after all these findings at the Worley property, the outlook became even more grim as it was
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starting to look like the the police and the sheriff's department, they were not
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going to be able to find Sierra alive. Almost immediately there is widespread support across the state of Ohio in the
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search for Sierra Jogan. Some family members and friends they handed out flyers with information about
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her. Others raised more than 25,000 through a GoFundMe page to support the search.
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Many others showed their support online by sharing information about her disappearance. There was even a $100,000
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reward offered for information that led to Sierra Jogan's whereabouts. Despite efforts and prayers, Sierra
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would not be found alive. In fact, her body was located on Friday, July 22nd. Jogan's body was found 3 days after she
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went missing, and she was found in a shallow grave in a cornfield not far from the James Dean Worley's home.
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James Worley was arrested the same day. He, as we said, lived in Fulton County, and he had been charged with aggravated
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abduction and aggravated murder in this case. Now, most articles that I read did
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not mention how Sierra Jogan's body was located or what may have led them to her
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body, but her remains were discovered 3 days after she was reported missing, but
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just hours after police arrested James Worley. An autopsy report from the county
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coroner's office shows that Sierra had died from asphyxiation due to airways being
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obstructed from a plastic gag in her mouth. She choked to death on a large plastic gag. She died
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of a period of minutes after the gag was placed in her mouth. The gag was described as a large, yellow, oval
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plastic device 3 in long and 2 in wide, and one of Sierra's teeth had been chipped.
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The report further detailed that Sierra's body was found hog-tied with ropes and duct tape, and her hands were
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handcuffed behind her back. So, her ankles were taped together, and the they had tied with the the rope
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to the hand handcuffs to the tape. Right. There was no evidence of a sexual assault that could be found. Um the
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report further revealed that Sierra's body was intact with no indications of significant trauma.
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And there was more evidence, the blood and the sunglasses that were found. It was later revealed that they had
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contained Worley's DNA. Mhm. Yeah, well, we kind of assumed that they were Worley's anyways. Mhm. But but we
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already had things connecting Worley, and now we're just circling the wagons and connecting more things to this
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despicable person. Well, yeah, they're just piling and piling the evidence to take this to trial. And one thing that
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came out very quickly after his arrest was everybody started talking about, well, is James Dean Worley a
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serial abductor? Because this is something he had been involved in before. Well, yeah, but
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let's be clear when when her body wasn't found, they just thought she was missing and he
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was charged before in 1990. He was charged um with the abduction of Robin Gardner. Mhm. And so
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they just kind of assumed here he is again abducting somebody, but they'll be found. And then once she's found, then,
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you know, we'll charge him with abduction and he'll go to jail. But then Sierra's body is found and now the game
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has changed. And we have a brief description of the abduction from 1990. Um it was, you know, you had said Robin
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Gardner. She was riding her bicycle. Again, we see young woman on her bicycle in a rural
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road near Toledo. And she told authorities that Worley had hit her purposely. And that he had tried to, you know, once
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he had knocked her off of like a truck or something? driving his truck, a flatbed truck. And
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while he was On that I-90, man. Once he had knocked her off of her bike, he tried to
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handcuff her in his flatbed truck while threatening her. You know, he's saying things like,
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you you know, do what I say, do what I say or I'm going to kill you. I'm serious, I'll kill you.
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According to the 1990 pre-sentencing report, this is everything that that came out in court regarding this case.
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Mhm. Uh, Gardner told police that she had managed to escape the truck and run to a man who had stopped his motorcycle
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after seeing the struggle inside the truck. According to Robin, Worley had inflicted a 1-in laceration on her right
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knee using a flathead screwdriver. Now, at the time, James Dean Worley, he was running a lawn mowing business, uh,
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again working for himself here. Uh, he did deny trying to harm Robin Gardner. He told authorities that he had only
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tried to restrain her because she was trying to leave the scene of an accident. well, James, how did she get the gash on
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her leg with a screwdriver? Yeah, you don't what I'd ask about the gash on her leg.
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restrain somebody using a screwdriver. I just tried to restrain her, you know, with a screwdriver. I wonder if he if he
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also stated shortly after that that he didn't rob or kill anybody. No, he didn't.
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And didn't steal anything. Anyways, no, but the thing is, you know, James is not
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a small guy by any means. Uh, and the best way to describe him in like in the jerk in the court photos
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that you can see of him, uh, he has, you know, this like red jumpsuit on, like a prison jumpsuit.
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But, he looks, size-wise, kind of like, uh, Leatherface in Texas Chainsaw Massacre
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if you just didn't have a mask on. I mean, he's kind of a bigger dude. Kind of large and lumbering kind of dude.
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Yeah. Um, he had went on to say that Gardner that Robin Gardner had caused the crash and that she had she had cut
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in front of him with her bicycle. And his statement was that my family and myself are good, decent, and very honest
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people. And that that was his statement to the judge at the time. Mhm. Now, afterward,
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Worley entered a plea to the abduction charge and he was sentenced, uh, for 4 to 10 years in prison
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according to an old court document. Which I mean this is what makes I mean I love our country. I love America. I love
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Ohio. But this is what makes our country so strange. This guy abducts a lady Mhm.
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for no freaking reason. He stabs her in the leg with a screwdriver. Right? Mhm. A sentence he pleads Yeah,
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he pleaded guilty. Then he's sentenced for 4 to 10 years. Mhm. And then he's released in three. Yeah, he was released
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on parole in 1993. And there's guys in jail smoke that were caught smoking pot a couple times that are spending more
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time in jail than this guy is. Yes. Yeah. Here Here again we see How that makes any damn sense,
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I I don't know. Or even dealing drugs, you know what I mean? It's like there should be some kind of separation
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between violent offenders and non-violent offenders, you know? Because to be honest with you, Captain, the guy
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that the guy that's selling some recreational use drugs, you know, two streets over, Mhm. he
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doesn't scare me. I'm not afraid of that dude. But the dude that decides, you know what?
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Well, I normally don't like that dude cuz that guy thinks he's a baller or something and I'm not really interested
00:28:07
in that dude. But he doesn't scare me. But the guy stabbing the girl with a screwdriver in the leg,
00:28:14
he doesn't scare me. I just don't want that individual around me. No, but what I mean is he's he's scary to society.
00:28:20
You know, this this guy it just he's he's driving and decides, you know what? Oh, there's a pretty girl. There's a
00:28:26
pretty woman on a bike. I'm just going to hit her with my truck. Well, our law enforcement and home.
00:28:31
Right. And our law enforcement and our government should be really thinking more about how to protect the citizens
00:28:37
than to oh, well, Alyssa, you smoked a little pot, so we're going to throw you in jail for for longer than James Dean
00:28:44
spent in jail for stabbing a girl. I mean, abducting her, handcuffing her, and stabbing her in the
00:28:50
leg with a screwdriver. And I do want to say that I am a believer in rehabilitation. I'm all for it. However,
00:28:58
I got to believe that it's probably easier to rehabilitate the drug user or the drug pusher rather than somebody
00:29:05
like James Dean Warley. I mean, he's he sat in prison. He's in there for 3 years. And he probably masterminded some
00:29:12
of his I don't want to say masterminded because he doesn't appear to be that smart of a guy, but uh he seemed to have
00:29:19
developed his plan a little more thoroughly during that time between the time of his uh original sentencing and
00:29:25
the time of this abduction. I mean, he outfitted a portion of his barn for his Well, yeah, let's dive into that and
00:29:32
hobby here. And let's dive into a little bit of his psychology and and the therapist stuff
00:29:38
after a beer break. All right, so let's dive into a little bit of this James Dean
00:29:44
Warley's um so after he was charged with the abduction in 1990 and then released in
00:29:52
'93, I think he was court-ordered to actually see a therapist. Yeah, cuz believe it I believe that at the time
00:30:00
they thought he could probably do this again. Yeah, and so as he's talking to his
00:30:05
therapist, he's making claims that uh you know, he's learned from his past abductions. Now plural. Mhm. So, we only
00:30:14
have the one on record or one that he's charged with, Robin Gardner, like I said, in '90.
00:30:22
So, but he says abductions, meaning more than one. So, what happened to these other victims? Yeah, and who are they?
00:30:32
You know, are there cold cases out there that that he has been involved in? Um we
00:30:37
know his type, right? You know, we we've seen two victims that are roughly the same age within
00:30:42
and 26. And um you know the the they're young women, young white women. Uh on both happen to be on bicycles,
00:30:51
which is strange enough, but he seems to be a person that works for himself and kind of must create his own hours
00:30:59
uh and he probably if he's done this more than once, I'm guessing that let's just assume he has cuz he's saying
00:31:06
plural. And well, and we know that he's done it twice. But what I'm saying is he's done this more than once, I'm
00:31:13
guessing he's probably out trolling for victims. That he's he's not just driving
00:31:19
home from the grocery store after picking up a gallon of milk and going, "Oh, there's a there's a girl that I
00:31:24
would like to hit with my vehicle and bring back to to my barn." I think it's he's out actually looking for uh a
00:31:32
victim that's by themselves uh that that he thinks he can easily overpower and abduct them. Yeah,
00:31:39
possibly trolling at some points, but I think in other cases maybe it's just opportunist. You know, so it's not far
00:31:46
from his barn uh the Sierra case is not far from his his property and he could have been picking up a part for
00:31:54
engine, you know, either on his motorcycle or in his truck and then gets back and goes, "Oh, I'm just going to
00:32:00
take my motorcycle out there." You know, who knows? I'm not We don't have really
00:32:05
have a clue on that. But so possibly sometimes trolling, possibly other times just opportunist. So but he's makes the
00:32:12
statements to his therapist that I've learned from my mistakes and the next one I'm going to bury. Yeah. Yeah, which
00:32:19
you would think, all right, Which is in the Sierra case, he does because she's found in a shallow grave.
00:32:25
Yeah. Yeah, so we know that the the he kept his word on that, but what I'm saying maybe he shouldn't have been
00:32:30
paroled. Um that should have been a few red flags go up right there, obviously, right? And um
00:32:37
but I you know, in these situations the therapist is is more representing the the prisoner
00:32:46
than the previous victim. Mhm. You know. And they got these statements from the therapist through a search warrant. But
00:32:53
I was digging a little more on this and it is actually now standard protocol that if you have somebody in therapy and
00:33:01
they're start making claims about hurting others, you actually have a duty to actually go to the police with
00:33:08
this. So if you state, you know, I just hate working in the garage and I I feel like I'm going to
00:33:14
hurt the co-host. You know, my therapist needs to dig deeper. Well, why do you hate him? Well, he stutters
00:33:21
on his words. He says escaped. Stuff like that. They have to dig a little bit deeper and
00:33:28
if they think there's actually some malice in there or some validity to what you're saying, they need to go to the
00:33:34
authorities. Now, the first abduction does appear a little more opportunist to me. Where obviously the
00:33:43
second Well, I'm glad you're on the same page as me now. Yeah, this the second one is clearly
00:33:47
planned out. You know, he's got the weird dungeon in his in his barn and he I don't I don't know if the second one's
00:33:54
planned out or if that weird room is just there. I mean, from from how long ago was that room set
00:34:02
up? No, what I what I meant by that is maybe that particular evening on July 19th, maybe he you know, he didn't set
00:34:09
out that evening planning to abduct somebody. But what I'm saying is I think that that area was
00:34:16
put together with certain items to to have a place for when an opportunity presents itself.
00:34:22
Right, right, right. And this is why the sheriff sergeant would give the statement that Worley
00:34:28
fits the profile of a serial offender and that he could potentially have additional victims who may have been
00:34:35
kept at his property for a short amount of time or sometime. What's uh what's John's Brews Company again?
00:34:43
Five Toes Brewing. And is it good beer? In the first abduction we see where he was unable to control his potential
00:34:49
victim. She gets away. he didn't stab her enough with the screwdriver. Yeah, and he was probably
00:34:55
looking to um handcuff her or tie her up to gain control over her at some point or at least get
00:35:01
Well, the other factor in this is the other motorcyclist. Mhm. And he was he was trying to drag
00:35:07
her to back to his truck according to Robin Gardner. And unable to carry the out that abduction. Now, we see where in
00:35:17
the second abduction he is able to overpower the victim and to gain control of her.
00:35:24
Um it does seem a little strange to me. has those marks on his arm and the marks
00:35:28
on his leg, so uh you know, at least there was a struggle. And it it does seem strange to me though if he was
00:35:34
on a motorcycle, uh that's that's a tricky way to to grab somebody and take them back to your
00:35:42
place, right? Right, but then I'm wondering is it a run off the road situation? You're on a motorcycle which
00:35:50
is a lot bigger than, you know, a mountain bike and so is the idea that you'd run her off the road?
00:35:57
I I get I'm guessing. I I mean he he he may not have had again, he may not have had a plan. This may have been an
00:36:03
opportunity that presented itself to him and he he acted on it um impulsively. And I think that's clearly what we see
00:36:10
in the first case, maybe in the sec- the second as well, uh even though he did have this place that he intended to take
00:36:17
her. Well, he and he might have taken her there. I mean, cuz the police haven't released every all the findings
00:36:24
of what they found in the barn. I mean, they have claimed that there is no uh human remains that they have found.
00:36:31
I think once they research the property more, um that possibly they're going to find some
00:36:39
things and those that will be brought to light in trial. But like we said, this is a very new case and this is
00:36:48
something that they have to keep a lot of stuff close to the vest because they do have to try
00:36:52
they haven't put James on trial yet. And I'm curious if they are able to end up finding any DNA of of the victim at his
00:37:03
barn or at his property. Yeah, and that's something that they haven't made claims to yet, but they did say that
00:37:08
there was blood on different parts in that secret room. Mhm. And remember, he did have that that potential
00:37:16
abduction kit in his truck. This is found in his truck, mind you. You know, and we're we're told that he used his
00:37:24
motorcycle in this abduction. that they're going to find Sierra's DNA at his property. I agree with that and I
00:37:32
think they probably they may have already done that. We know that they went in what was it? In August of this year?
00:37:39
After after this case was put together, they did go to his property searching for the possibility of other human
00:37:47
remains or evidence that there were other people kept there. Now, we've been told that as of this date, they've not
00:37:54
found any of that. Well, thanks for catching up. I said that about 5 minutes ago.
00:37:59
And but but here again, like we said, I wouldn't be surprised if there is evidence of Sierra, like you said, DNA
00:38:05
at his at his home, at his in his truck or on the motorcycle, in the barn. They're probably holding onto that.
00:38:14
They're going to use that in court against him. Keep in mind, he has pled not guilty, right? Mhm. Uh I wouldn't be
00:38:20
surprised if he is guilty of other I I think everything points to him being guilty of of Sarah
00:38:27
of Sierra's case, 100%. Yeah, I think the other thing that's weird about this is
00:38:34
I mean, we you know, we get a list of cases that are presented to us. And you know, we we've we like to do
00:38:42
some profiles here and there and we happen to do Ed Gein recently. Uh or like our Australian buddies call it Ed
00:38:49
Gein. Ed Gein. Oh, you guys did that case on the Ed Gein. Um the goofy Aussies. Um
00:38:58
but this is kind of a similar situation. You're You're Aussies. Aussies. You and I got in the
00:39:02
habit of saying Aussies. No, Aussies. That's why I call them like Aussie Osbornes.
00:39:07
Uh they're from the land of Aussies. Um No, so it's kind of the same situation. You got this family,
00:39:14
um plot of land with the barn and everything and then they it's the same scenario, you know? And then they go
00:39:21
back to you know, Ed's house and they find all this weird stuff. Well, you don't find
00:39:26
as weird of stuff, but it's still you got the secret room with all these, you know, basically methods of torture.
00:39:34
And then you find this victim and she was tortured. And well, and she it it sounds to me
00:39:40
like she may have passed a lot earlier or a lot sooner than he had anticipated. Um you know, she died from
00:39:50
asphyxiation on that gag on that apparatus that that he had put in her mouth. Now Yeah, and I question this
00:39:58
autopsy a little bit and normally I wouldn't just because science is science. The problem though is that there's blood
00:40:06
on his helmet. Mhm. And I'm just wondering how bad of a blow to the head maybe that she had
00:40:14
due to the helmet. I don't know. They did say there was no no visible signs of of like extreme
00:40:22
trauma. Okay, so where right Right, but no, I'm with you. I think that he used that blood probably came from him
00:40:30
overpowering her to to take her somewhere else. Well, and and if anybody's been watching
00:40:36
the CBS special on JonBenét Ramsey, they were talking about that possibly that she was hit with a
00:40:44
flashlight. But there was so there was damage to the skull, but there was no break in the
00:40:51
skin. So it could have been the same thing. So no break in the skin, but there's still damage to the skull or
00:40:57
damage to a bone. There was blood present. Who knows? Like they said, we don't know if it was his or hers or
00:41:04
combination of the two. Um I wouldn't be surprised here, Captain. We're talking about psych you know, the
00:41:10
the psychology of this monster. Mhm. I wonder if there are other victims out there, more than the two that we already
00:41:19
know about. If he is guilty of other crimes, do we see a confession here at some
00:41:26
point? Do we see a guilty plea at some point just to kind of You know what I mean? Because he he
00:41:32
looks very very guilty. There's no getting out of this one. There's no getting out of this one.
00:41:37
But there's a way to walk away from suspicion of other crimes, I think. then it puts more pressure on the DA. So
00:41:51
it gives you more bargaining chips. If you're just going to plead guilty from the word go, then they're not going to
00:41:56
lessen the sentence and also hope hoping that if you extend it out further, that
00:42:02
maybe there's not as much um public pressure Mhm. and that that he'll just get a lighter sentence.
00:42:10
Yeah, and originally he was when he was first picked up, he was being held without bond. Um and then eventually he
00:42:17
did enter a not guilty plea to the charges and he's currently waiting for his trial. Now, I've been told that his
00:42:26
trial will start next September. Not that not this month, but the following September. So, they probably have a
00:42:32
pretty big case here to put together. Um I don't think that he has the means to afford
00:42:39
great counsel. Um and I mean that in the terms of expensive counsel. Uh does doesn't mean
00:42:46
that there's not great counsel out there um by his means. But, what I'm saying here
00:42:51
is Well, some idiot will come along and pay for a good counsel and then make a documentary claiming this guy's that
00:42:58
this monster is innocent. And it's very likely that he's going to face the death
00:43:02
penalty. You know, we still have the death penalty here in Ohio. Um he is a repeat offender. Um and this
00:43:09
was a very heinous crime. Yeah, I mean this is a beautiful girl with a lot of life left. I mean, she was
00:43:17
going to school. She had a loving family. She was doing everything right and here's this guy that's doing
00:43:22
everything wrong and their paths crossed for whatever reason and this is the outcome and he deserves to go away
00:43:28
forever. He deserves to get sentenced to death if if if that's what your state carries. And
00:43:36
the thing is here well, the the the current state of the Ohio state death penalty
00:43:42
is is a bit strange. You know, we're not currently able to use the the drugs that
00:43:46
they use to put people to sleep. And um because of that, we've not actually executed anybody, I believe, in the last
00:43:54
3 years. Um they're working to try to figure that situation out. Um so, unfortunately, where our victim
00:44:04
her life was cut way too short. This guy, regardless if he's found guilty or not, he's probably looking at a long
00:44:12
stay here in prison. He's 57 years old. He may not ever see that execution date.
00:44:18
Well, like I said, here here's some problems that we have. You know, the therapists, they're taught to if if you
00:44:24
think that these claims that people are making have any validity, you need to go
00:44:28
to law enforcement. I believe these claims had validity. I mean, he's already charged and and spent time in
00:44:36
prison for one abduction. He talks about multiple abductions. Then he talks about
00:44:41
the next victim that I've learned from my mistakes. The next one I'll bury. This is red flags. This should have been
00:44:47
caught. This is um you know, when you talk about therapy, this is a mental health thing and this is this is
00:44:56
a area that we need to step up in. Exactly. And and if and if they would have caught
00:45:00
this earlier, and now I'm not putting I'm not putting any blame on them. I'm just saying that if we really step up
00:45:07
this area, this crime never would have happened and Sierra would still be living and and and and attending school
00:45:14
as we speak. Then there's other problems where he only spends 3 years in jail for
00:45:20
abducting a girl. And not only that, but I mean, [ __ ] some assault charges are
00:45:26
longer than 3 years and he's he stabbed her with a screwdriver. Yeah. Which is another item that we found in this case.
00:45:34
So, all around this is just there's there's there's a lot of issues with this going on. The thing that is really
00:45:40
confusing to me and I would like to know this information. I could not find it anywhere
00:45:46
is that her boyfriend Josh talks about that he was in communication with her after they split. Mhm. And for a while.
00:45:54
I just want to know how long that was and what what happened in that time period.
00:45:59
Yeah. Yeah, the the only description that I was able to find was he was saying that they exchanged some text
00:46:04
messages. And then at some point she quit responding to his messages and then that's when he tried calling her phone
00:46:12
and Yeah, and it could have been something like text me when you get home. So I mean that time period could
00:46:18
be actually a lot smaller than is what's reported. It could be short. It could be
00:46:22
a handful of hours for all we know, but at some point he's calling the phone and
00:46:25
he's only getting the voicemail. And a lot another thing that's happening with this case is there's a lot of threats to
00:46:32
James Dean Worley's property. And again, same thing with the Ed Gein case when we talked about when his property
00:46:40
went up for sale, they actually somebody burned it down, burned down the whole facility and they
00:46:46
knew that it was arson. So there's actually been similar threats to um Worley's property and this is actually
00:46:56
something that he really cares about. Now I'm not saying that this place shouldn't
00:47:01
be burnt down and I'm not saying that I want to applaud the person that did it. I'm not saying that I would uh
00:47:07
you know, give him a couple rounds of beers afterwards. But um but mind you, this is an ongoing
00:47:14
investigation. Mind you that there are other victims possibly out there that we don't have answers to their story.
00:47:22
And not just abduction uh scenarios, but possible other murders and that evidence could be found on that
00:47:30
property. So anybody that's thinking, well, I'm going to burn down this guy's place
00:47:36
you might want to think twice cuz you might be stopping the possible solving of another crime. Yeah, and
00:47:44
his property and it may be it may belong to his mother or his brother or to everybody in the family, I don't know.
00:47:50
But the property that we're talking about, we figured out is what, roughly about 3 acres? So it's not it's not a
00:47:56
small piece of land. Now, they they have searched it for remains or or evidence of such of abductions or whatnot. They
00:48:05
haven't found that, but that doesn't mean that they've searched every nook and cranny.
00:48:08
Right, but the thing too is that's what's being reported, like we said before. That's what's being reported.
00:48:12
That doesn't mean that's the truth. Mhm. And in this case, the the law enforcements don't have to be open and
00:48:19
transparent to the public. No, because there's still a trial that's going to happen.
00:48:23
the and the main thing is to get this monster locked up and put away for a very long time. Now, there was a person
00:48:29
in the area that had said that her and her daughter had gone to his property to get a her daughter had some kind of rec-
00:48:37
recreational vehicle that that she used and the daughter was was kind of young, like maybe 13 or 14-ish.
00:48:43
Um they were having that vehicle repaired by Worley. And they went to the barn and
00:48:51
he was working on, you know, fixing this vehicle. And one thing that the lady had said
00:48:57
that she found to be extremely strange about him. Now, she had actually This was just days before the disappearance
00:49:04
of Sierra. She said one thing that she found to be strange of James Worley was that they
00:49:10
had been there about a year to a year and a half prior to have something else fixed. And this
00:49:17
was the only time that she and her daughter had ever met James Worley, right? They arrived to get this vehicle
00:49:25
repaired. And immediately he greets them by both by name. He clearly remembered them, uh which she
00:49:33
found to be strange. Uh and he even pointed out that mentioned to the daughter, like, "Oh,
00:49:39
aren't you like 12?" You know, she he had got the age right from the year before. Mhm.
00:49:45
Uh she had also said that the first time that they were there back in 2015 that the barn itself was a wreck. Like,
00:49:53
it was just a total mess. There was stuff everywhere. And when they returned this time in 2016,
00:50:00
uh just days before the disappearance, that the barn was extremely tidy. It was very clean. Everything had been picked
00:50:06
up and put away in its right spot. And she found it to be strange that this person had lived and conducted himself
00:50:13
in and and one manner for so long and then just a year later, complete change. Yeah, but it could be a million
00:50:21
different reasons. I mean, some logical reasons. I mean, his mom might have been put away in a home and
00:50:28
then he then decides that he's going to organize things the way he wants to. Again, is it that strange that he
00:50:34
remembers their name? Hey, it's business practice. You do business with somebody
00:50:38
before, you make some notes, and then you can remember a little bit something about them next time you do business
00:50:43
with them. That's a common business Um It may not be strange to you or to I, but it was strange to the person that
00:50:50
had met him on two occasions. Which I find interesting. And and you know, furthermore, uh you know, is it strange
00:50:57
that the barn is all of a sudden clean? No. But did he clean it for a purpose other
00:51:02
than, you know, just tidying up the place? Was he getting rid of things that he didn't want on his property? I'm just
00:51:09
going to go with what the therapist talked about when he said "abductions". Mhm. I've learned from my abductions
00:51:17
more than one. Uh I don't think that's a slip by any means. I mean, he also had this uh weird relationship with his
00:51:24
mother. Was constantly There was a lot of claims um by the nursing home that she was in and
00:51:31
by other caretakers saying that he was very mean to her. Uh the police were called out uh one time to check on the
00:51:38
mother because they thought maybe that Warley did something to her. Uh there was also time that uh he went The police
00:51:44
were called out to the property again cuz he had a fight with his brother. Nobody was arrested at any of these
00:51:50
times. But with the mother case, the police were so concerned that they actually said, "No, we're going in the
00:51:56
house." And when they went in the house, she was just asleep. So, I mean, this this
00:52:01
This is the stuff that pisses me off so much because here's this guy that committed a crime. He gets let out too
00:52:07
early. He's now talking to a doctor. He's saying some goofy [ __ ] Nobody reports that. He has all these other
00:52:12
weird freaking claims and everybody knew him as, you know, "Yeah, he's fixing engines." And maybe that means that you
00:52:19
don't get a you're not around a bunch of people all the time. But it's like as a
00:52:23
society, let's wake up, people. And when there's some weird [ __ ] going on and somebody's acting a little [ __ ]
00:52:29
kooky, let's take note of it and then give that to somebody that maybe can take some
00:52:36
action on that on those notes. But it's it seems like, you know, I applaud the lady. She came forward
00:52:43
after the guy is is arrested say, "Yeah, you know, he he seemed a little strange." Well, that's great, lady.
00:52:49
After the after Sierra's found. That does nothing. And just like the doctor, congratulations. We already found the
00:52:56
victim. Well, the doctor didn't come forward. That was a that was a warrant that was issued and that's when they
00:53:02
found that information. And Well, so I applaud you, you know, for coming forward after you
00:53:07
you're served a warrant. but applaud the the authorities for for serving the warrant and getting that
00:53:13
information. Uh and the other thing though with with the woman that I was describing, uh who
00:53:19
knows? We don't you know, media media is a bit of a [ __ ] right? We who knows? They could have been out with their
00:53:25
cameras of a [ __ ] with their cameras and with their microphones, with their pads and
00:53:29
their pencils, going around Fulton County asking anybody, "Did you know James Dean Worley?" And if anybody's
00:53:36
willing to say anything, they jot it down. Next thing you know, it's on CNN or it's in People magazine or it's
00:53:41
wherever. Um you know, that she may not have come forward. She may have been asked a
00:53:46
question. Now, we talk about possible other abductions, right? Now, one thing I thought that I would
00:53:54
take upon myself was to search the Ohio cold case database and I I got a little discouraged and
00:54:03
very tired along the way, right? So, I started because this case just took place two months ago. I had to start
00:54:11
very recently, right? And so, I started going backwards in time searching the database for people that would have been
00:54:18
similar description to the two girls that that we know of Right. in a similar area. And of course, I was going to
00:54:25
ignore anything between the years of 1990 and 1993 when he was locked up. But one thing that got real sad real quick
00:54:34
was I'm checking out cold case murder cases in the state of Ohio. And I only made it to the year 2003.
00:54:44
That's as far as I could get back before I started falling asleep at the table. By the time of 2003, I don't remember
00:54:52
what month I was in at that point, but I had already looked through 600 cold case murder cases in the state of
00:55:00
Ohio. That was that was really took the wind out of my sails to know that there's 600 murder cases that are
00:55:06
unsolved in the state of Ohio since the year 2003. Yeah, well, maybe if you quit
00:55:11
your damn day job, we could solve some of these things. So, I only made it back to 2003, right?
00:55:18
I'm wondering how far back do we have to go on this guy checking these cold cases
00:55:25
and seeing what's in the area and see seeing anything that matches the victim profile
00:55:30
Mhm. before we come across anything? Well, I the questions I'd want to ask is when did his father pass away? What was
00:55:37
his relationship with his father? Uh we know that he was mean to his mother, had
00:55:42
some issues with his brother. Um I would want to know some of his history in high school, but I think he could
00:55:48
with somebody sick like this, I think he could go back as far as 18. Well, I think too that you might want to
00:55:55
know maybe what was his different living situations. Has he always lived at the mother's property? You know, because you
00:56:01
had mentioned earlier that you thought that she was now living in a retirement home.
00:56:06
Yeah, yeah, she might have passed away by now. I'm not for sure. Last I saw she was like 99 years old.
00:56:13
Right. Um you know, he's 57. Well, when you give uh birth to evil, maybe you just can't die. Yeah, but what I'm
00:56:20
wondering is are we seeing are we seeing something here where um where he's he's starting up again? Well, I think
00:56:29
Because because mom's not around. Because now he's there's there's less eyes on there's less eyes on James Dean
00:56:35
Worley in the property that he lives. What I mean by that is you you wanted to ask questions about him
00:56:41
specifically. I'm wondering what was some of his different living situations. Did he ever live by himself? Because
00:56:47
Well, I think the bigger issue with this whole thing is that if he was driving a
00:56:51
truck for a living and on that I-90, now you're talking about, you know, not just
00:56:56
northwest Ohio. was a landscaper at that time. So, it may have been a landscaping truck that
00:57:02
he was driving. I don't think he was like a semi truck driver. Yeah, but all I'm saying is that you're on that I-90.
00:57:08
So, it's very easy to jump on and and then you have you have this excuse of this company
00:57:16
that you can give to your family and friends. Probably didn't have any friends. Uh
00:57:21
on why you're out of town. Yeah. Yeah, and you're right. He might not have had any friends. There were There was a
00:57:26
person or two in the area that had said he seemed to be a guy that knew a lot about the people that lived in the area
00:57:34
and nobody in the area really knew a lot about him. Yeah. Yeah, I mean typical loser. Right? Mhm.
00:57:40
Uh and I and I think the thing about it and that was scary to me is when you look at the college towns around that
00:57:46
area, you got Toledo, you know, a hour and or less than an hour away, Ann Arbor about an hour and a half away. You have
00:57:54
Findlay, Ohio, which is hour and 15 away. You got Tiffin University up in that area.
00:57:59
It seems like the kind of girl that he's going after is college age. Yeah. And and it's like
00:58:06
this bad perfect storm. No, you're right, because most most people see that as see
00:58:12
those as areas of potential growth, personal growth, higher education. He sees those areas as hunting grounds.
00:58:21
I don't know what he sees them as, but I just think just think he's a real douche. Well, his
00:58:25
actions, I can tell that he sees those as hunting grounds. It's it's obvious. Um I do want to point out here that
00:58:31
there was a woman that came forward recently. Her name is Rachel Hill. Uh she is the sister of Lauren Lori Ann
00:58:39
Hill, sorry. Um and Lori Ann Hill was killed in 1995. She went missing for days before a
00:58:46
hunter discovered her body in a cornfield. Now, Lori was just 14 years old at the time of her disappearance and
00:58:53
her death. Um her sister really feels like James DeAngelo Morley is guilty of of her sister's death. There's
00:59:03
not a lot of evidence to to provide that suspicion. Mhm. Um however, it should be
00:59:09
noted that that she believes this because of the similarities in the case as well as the close proximity to where
00:59:18
they live. Do you know how close that is? No, I I guess um she was the victim lived in a
00:59:25
place called uh Swanton. Yeah, I I I don't know that area too well. I used to play in Findlay a lot at
00:59:32
Nino's. So, anybody in Findlay, Ohio, I used to play there. You probably saw me play sometime. Mhm. And Toledo, Bar 145.
00:59:40
If you get need a nice beer, check out that place. Uh I played there several times.
00:59:46
Um No, I think when it comes down to this all, I mean, a lot of armchair detectives and and real detectives would
00:59:55
go, "Okay, well, we have one victim at 20 and one victim at 26. So, this is just his MO." And like I said, he's
01:00:04
college area, so he's it's like this bad perfect storm. But you know, even though I I don't really
01:00:11
care too much for this lady's comments afterwards about, you know, him knowing her daughter's age,
01:00:17
I think people are so quick to say, "Oh, no, no. It's not his MO. He's he's into
01:00:25
20-year-olds." Hey, he just might be into opportunities. And so, I think this is if this lady has
01:00:32
a gut feeling that uh James is involved, um they need to take that serious, and and hopefully they can add another
01:00:39
charge to this. And I think it's important that you dive into these other cases solely for
01:00:48
that once I believe once he's convicted Mhm. of this crime, this heinous crime, and he is sentenced
01:00:56
to life or death penalty or whatever. And hopefully and I'm not advocate for the death penalty, but hopefully he's
01:01:04
sentenced to death, and therefore Worley will start speaking, so these other victims' families will have some
01:01:14
closure. Mhm. Yeah, because once once the possibility there's no more threat. You know, you can't be can't be
01:01:20
threatened with a more harsh sentence. So, why not why not come clean with some of with some of your actions? Um so,
01:01:28
real quick here, I just looked up we talked about Robin Gardner. She was the first girl that well,
01:01:34
we had spoke about her. She was the one that he attempted to abduct from an area
01:01:38
called Whitehouse, Ohio. Now, Whitehouse, Ohio is about 12 mi southeast of Swanton, Ohio. Swanton is
01:01:47
where this Lori Ann Hill had disappeared from. Now, Swanton, Ohio is only about 6
01:01:53
or 7 mi east of where Worley was currently living uh at the time of of this case.
01:02:01
Okay, so next week can we just like talk about like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate
01:02:05
Factory cuz sometimes this stuff just it's just it's horrible because at the end of the day
01:02:10
this beautiful girl lost her life. Mhm. And uh and this guy, you know, who knows what he's going to
01:02:19
if he's going to get if they're going to get justice or not and I'm hoping and I'm praying that uh he gets the harshest
01:02:26
penalty allowed. Yeah, he's he's currently facing 19 charges. Some of those charges are kidnapping, aggravated
01:02:33
murder, um abuse of a corpse. Uh like I said, he'll be facing court next September. I think that the state will
01:02:42
get the justice uh and put this guy away forever and and hopefully get some justice for the
01:02:48
family and his other potential victims. I'd like to hear an update on this Lori Ann Hill situation. Um hopefully they
01:02:57
can figure something out with that as well. Uh yeah, and if we get any updates, um
01:03:02
we will do update show on this. Mhm. We do have recommended reading, Captain. All right. This week we are recommending
01:03:09
This This week we're recommending Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Read something that's not true crime so you
01:03:15
don't feel so bad about the world. Well, we are recommending Released to Kill Again by John Summit.
01:03:22
Well, that sounds like it's true crime. Mhm. Are criminals who have been convicted of murder really being
01:03:28
released back into society to live among us? Yes, they are. John Summit reveals the shocking true
01:03:35
crime and murder stories of seven convicted criminals who not only killed once, but they were paroled only to kill
01:03:42
again. You can pick that up by going to our website truecrimegarage.com. Click on the recommended page. You will
01:03:49
see all of our books that we've recommended over the past year. Uh-huh. Um, and Is it Is it up-to-date now? It's
01:03:57
up-to-date, but I I I I should correct what I just said. I don't think you can find everything that we've recommended
01:04:03
on there, but there's about 20 or so books currently listed on there. So, you're only like 30 books behind.
01:04:09
I'm a We're missing some of the ones from the early days. All right. That's That's
01:04:14
your one job is that page. That's right. So, go to go to truecrimegarage.com. Click on the recommended page. Don't
01:04:20
listen to the Captain, and pick up Released to Kill Again by John Summit today. And And for everything true crime
01:04:27
garage, you can check out our website truecrimegarage.com, and all social media stuff, Twitter,
01:04:32
Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat. If you want to see the Brian Wilson of Snapchat, @truecrimegarage.
01:04:39
And don't forget about our recommended viewing, The Girl on the Train. Yeah, it comes out October 7th.
01:04:45
October 7th in theaters. This is the thriller mystery about the girl on the train who She sees this house every day
01:04:52
on her everyday commute. Mhm. And she fantasizes about what's going on in the house. Does Does the
01:04:57
perfect couple live there? And it turns out that there is a murder mystery, and she finds herself all wrapped up in this
01:05:04
all entangled in the mystery. Yeah, and I like true crime, but I'm a I'm a sucker for uh mystery movies, thrillers,
01:05:11
and I think this one is just going to be great. I'm calling it. It's going to be
01:05:15
one of the best films of the year. Yeah, my favorite is a whodunit and this looks
01:05:19
like a really good one. And I know a lot of my friends have read the book, and so
01:05:24
they're really excited about the movie. I have not read the book yet, uh but sometimes, you know, the book is is
01:05:31
better than the movie and all that kind of stuff. So, I'm not even going to read
01:05:35
the book on this one. I'm going straight for the cinema on this one. Girl on the
01:05:38
Train, October 7th. And you know what? The popcorn always tastes better when you're watching the movie rather than
01:05:46
reading the book, right? So, Yeah, and you don't get butter on the pages, On the pages. You wipe the butter on the
01:05:52
pages. Yeah, so go see Emily Blunt starring in The Girl on the Train in theaters
01:05:58
October 7th, and until next time, be good, be kind, and don't litter.

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Episode Highlights

  • Sierra Jagan's Disappearance
    20-year-old Sierra Jagan went missing after parting ways with her boyfriend while biking.
    “She was a remarkable young lady with a contagious smile.”
    @ 04m 41s
    January 14, 2025
  • Discovery of Evidence
    Authorities find Sierra's bike and evidence of a struggle in a cornfield.
    “They find two pairs of sunglasses, a screwdriver, and a bloodied motorcycle helmet.”
    @ 12m 12s
    January 14, 2025
  • Arrest of James Worley
    James Worley was arrested after Sierra's body was found near his home.
    “He was charged with aggravated abduction and aggravated murder.”
    @ 21m 23s
    January 14, 2025
  • The Evidence Piles Up
    DNA evidence connects Worley to Sierra's case, strengthening the prosecution's case.
    “They're just piling and piling the evidence to take this to trial.”
    @ 23m 06s
    January 14, 2025
  • James Dean Worley's Past
    Worley had a previous abduction charge in 1990, raising concerns about his history.
    “Is James Dean Worley a serial abductor?”
    @ 23m 19s
    January 14, 2025
  • The Sentencing Discrepancy
    Worley was sentenced to only 4 to 10 years for a violent abduction, raising questions about justice.
    “This is what makes our country so strange.”
    @ 27m 02s
    January 14, 2025
  • The Death Penalty Debate
    The current state of the death penalty in Ohio raises questions about justice for victims.
    “He deserves to get sentenced to death if that's what your state carries.”
    @ 43m 31s
    January 14, 2025
  • A Call for Awareness
    The need for society to recognize and report suspicious behavior is emphasized.
    “Let's take note of it and then give that to somebody that maybe can take some action.”
    @ 52m 33s
    January 14, 2025
  • Unsolved Cases in Ohio
    Over 600 cold case murder cases remain unsolved in Ohio since 2003, highlighting systemic issues.
    “That was really took the wind out of my sails to know that there's 600 murder cases.”
    @ 55m 04s
    January 14, 2025
  • Justice for Victims
    The state aims to bring justice and closure for the victims' families.
    “Get the justice and put this guy away forever.”
    @ 01h 02m 44s
    January 14, 2025
  • Recommended Reading
    This week’s book recommendations include 'Released to Kill Again' and 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory'.
    “Read something that's not true crime so you don't feel so bad about the world.”
    @ 01h 03m 15s
    January 14, 2025
  • Upcoming Movie Release
    'The Girl on the Train' hits theaters on October 7th, promising a thrilling mystery.
    “The popcorn always tastes better when you're watching the movie rather than reading the book.”
    @ 01h 05m 41s
    January 14, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • Their number one goal was still that they have not located Sierra.
    James Dean Worley ////// True Crime
  • I didn't steal anything and I didn't kill anybody.
    James Dean Worley ////// True Crime
  • This guy abducts a lady for no freaking reason.
    James Dean Worley ////// True Crime
  • There's no getting out of this one.
    James Dean Worley ////// True Crime
  • Let's wake up, people.
    James Dean Worley ////// True Crime
  • This beautiful girl lost her life.
    James Dean Worley ////// True Crime

Key Moments

  • Happy Birthday01:00
  • Sierra's Smile04:41
  • Evidence Found12:12
  • Evidence Collection22:44
  • Worley's History23:35
  • Cold Case Crisis55:04
  • Justice for Victims1:02:26
  • Book Recommendations1:03:05

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