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true cry [Music] [Music] 911 address your emergency yes I'm at the crown uh Crown
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Plaza at ohare airport and I was calling because my daughter came to this to a party here last night a gathering with a
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friend and um now her friends they said that they left on the front of the hotel and she's
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not able to be found now she's 19 years old and you said that this and and you said the Crown Plaza at ohare airport
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yes yes and they said that um when her friends was asking um earlier today like about 4:00 in the morning U cuz they run
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the video cameras they said that they didn't have no camera but now I came and it was a lady she said that she if she
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heard music and she she asked me that I want to go upstairs and we went upstairs
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on the 11th floor and it was someone came to the room and the she said that she did see my daughter there with a
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group of girls and and and a couple of guys but um that's all she just saw cuz she was trying busy trying to get
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reception on her phone all right well then um you know what um are you sure you don't mean the Crown
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Plaza in Rosemont yes the crown yes it is I'm sorry the crown CL in Rosemont that's
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exactly where it's at okay sorry no no it's okay and and have you sp and you said you spoke with the uh front Des I'm
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sitting outside right in front of the hotel in a parking lot right now and they were saying that they
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didn't that they haven't seen your daughter since she left her no it's a different set it's a different um uh a
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new uh I'm sorry it's a new shift and they said that they haven't seen it well of course they wouldn't seen it cuz this
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is like 3:00 or 4: in the morning and I just SE she was here because I just found the ticket where where they
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entered this um Hotel it was at um 1:36 p.m. so hold on this part her because this is on the S my daughter wasn't here
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on the S okay and well you know real quick I'm just going to see if maybe we I'm see if
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maybe she was here at all what's your daughter's name her name is Ken Jenkins the room wasn't registered her
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name she came with some friends here no yeah I just want to verif I'm about say I actually just came in myself uh
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probably been on CHP for about 45 minutes so I just want to make sure that you know maybe she didn't she didn't get
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arrested and sent on her me I just want to double check everything thank you you're very welcome
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but um it doesn't look like we had any runin with with her last night at all um do you think it's possible maybe she
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went to one of her friends houses or you know she's no no actually because she had my car she was driving my car she
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know I don't like nobody to drive my car because my insurance will not pay for nobody no one besides her and um her
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friends kept calling my phone I told them to stay out here they stayed out here but they called me like about 3
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something in the morning I was laying in the bed I just had breakfast surgery at
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breast you know I fent breast cancer so I'm you know to dat off medication early
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and they telling me she out here so once I rejuvenate it strength enough myself enough to get up and drive out here to
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look for once they brought me my car I came right out here and I came to the hotel and I showed them a picture of her
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and I asked them did they see it and it was a lady in the lobby and she heard me
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asking the front desk and she said it was music she did hear music she called the downstairs to report the room and
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kind of find out was the people next door and when we knocked on the door um that person said that she did see my
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daughter downstairs with it was like four of them and it was four of them and she said my daughter she um she was with
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three of her friends but her three friends said which they you know these kids want to tell the truth they said
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that she was they went upstairs to get and when they went to get her cell phone she was standing in the lobby in the
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front lobby and then when they came back down she wasn't there anymore no I completely understand
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um one the one issue we have and it's not necessar that that is an issue but she is an adult she is 19 years old and
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um I mean 19 years old that's my daugh she's 19 her name k think is k e e e Kaa no yes yes yes no I I remember that you
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told me that you're 19 but um what I'm saying is that is that she again she's only been
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gone for a couple hours she's yeah I don't know maybe she's you know she could be somewhere with one of her
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friends or something because I mean again it is only a couple hours since you hadn't seen her correct or since her
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friend supposedly hadn't seen her correct let say about um four 3 to 4 hours now they there they told
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me it was like 4 o'clock in the morning when he called me yeah H all well I I guess the the the one are
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you looking to file a missing person's report then or are you [Applause] just I'm
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sorry I'm so sorry uh I just want want to know is it possible that they maybe they can look at the cameras and see um
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because they send the police out here and ask them to look at the cameras and see if um theyve seen her on the camera
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some around that time I was about to say even if I did send an officer it would take a little bit in order and uh for us
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to get the uh for us to get the camera footage and us for us to pass it on to the uh detectives
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division okay okay so so what what would you suggest well again again the only thing I would
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suggest maybe just um you know give her a couple hours you know she could have went you know she could have went
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somewhere with one of her other friends I mean and who knows what her friends are saying is true you know what I mean
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exactly that's is the they you could tell not to be saying you could tell it don't sound right I'm a parent I've been
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young before and it's not sounding right it don't sound right period That's why I
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came out here myself because they and then it sound like they had been drinking you know honestly and I asked
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them did she drink and they said she had only one cup you know but okay my daughter ate the type that normally she
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can't even take liquor her her liquor level is just like mine we can't take liquor we cannot take liquor we take a
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sip of liquor we drunk honestly no I completely and I'm I'm like one cup is too much for her you know and and and
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like I asked them and then they end up with her I pay her cell phone bill every month to make sure my daughter has a
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phone how did she love a phone I don't understand how why would she leave her cell phone with you all
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and just go disappear and you know I just had surgery you know she know she know my predicament no yeah well then
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well well then so that in that case what I what uh what I would recommend just you know go home relax a little bit give
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it some time she could she of of all we know she very well could still be in the
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room she she could just be passed out you know again you know how it is you drink in the the night before you get
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you know what I mean whatever else have you so just give it a couple hours you know maybe see if you know see if she'll
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get a hold of you again you know I mean does she uh does she know your number yes she know my number very well she's
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very smart okay well then like I said you know just give her a couple hours you know what I mean you know you know
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give her some time you know again maybe she you know maybe she went to one of her other friendss places or maybe she
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is still in the room you know just knocked you know knocked out you know what I mean yes I thank you okay and so
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when do you how long does it take for me to file a Miss person report well well you can you can file it at any at uh at
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any time it just uh like I said you know just you just give it a little bit of time you know if if you hadn't heard
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from her by I want to say about 10 11:00 then by all means you'll give us a call
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again you can come to the station and uh we can help you out from there okay I live in Chicago would it be
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better for me to come back to you station or should I go in Chicago and make out a Miss
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report you know I think you know what uh you know what um you you can try you can
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try to file it out in Chicago they may tell you to come here since it happened in our town but I do know that since she
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I do know that since she lives with uh you obviously she lives with you in the city I think this might actually fall on
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them or at least or at least they'll be able to take the report and then they'll get
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in contact with us and we'll be able to help them out with the investigation from there okay well it doesn't it
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doesn't matter whichever one um if I have to come back out here I'll come back out here
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but but as long as if we be able to see but we if I come I give it to tomorrow it's 24 hours after 24 hours do you
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think they still be able to see the video camera of today the surveillance C camera for today
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yeah yeah yeah yes we definitely be able to Pro yes we' definitely be able to get
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the footage okay thank you not do that okay thank you so much okay okay you're very
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welcome have a good day you thank you so much you're very welcome [Music] bye-bye
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[Music] negative I have that uh subject in the kitchen in a freezer she is frozen
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solid 10 for 600 600 cop pleas make notifications R 601 you [Applause] copy Jerry what kid can you
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in I'm in the rear by the uh dock area and [Laughter] garbage [Applause] [Music]
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first up Captain we find ourselves in a bit of a unique situation don't we this has been I find myself in the garage
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well this has happened before but it's rare but we have to seize the day we have to seize the moment we were all
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geared up we had a case ready to cover cover this week an interesting case of course but a cold case one with no
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recent activity on it now it doesn't make it any less important or less tragic but there is this case in the
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news right now and it should be and we both agreed that now is the time to discuss it because as we both agreed
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this case should and needs as many ears and eyes on it as possible and it's possibly not getting the immedia
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attention it should right and now we're talking about the Kena Jenkins case of course uh a basic rundown before we dive
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into this thing uh we have a beautiful young lady just 19 years old mhm she goes to a hotel party with her friends
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on September 8th 2017 so just earlier this month now her mother is at home recovering from a surgery she says that
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she last Saw Kena at about 11:30 p.m. at their home she says Kena borrowed her mother's car and left with two of her
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friends so I'm assuming that Kena lives with her mother yes mhm now later we would see video footage of Kena and
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three other young women uh all about her age walking together from the hotel lobby now friends of this group of girls
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are up on the ninth floor they have a room there and they are throwing a hotel party i' I've seen some reports that the
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group actually had rented two rooms that night which I believe to be true but at
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about 4:00 a.m. kena's friends call her mother and they told her that they could
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not find Kena so she is missing now kena's friends have her cell phone and they have the keys to kena's mom's car
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uh she's reported missing to the hotel and then later to the police and then about a little under 24 hours after that
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she's found dead in a Walkin freezer at that very same hotel now usually I don't
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like to go into this whole basic rundown of the C but we heard we heard all of that in the trailer we hear her mother
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calling 911 asking what she should do reporting her missing and then later we hear the officer that found her in that
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freezer and those haunting chilling words that that he says you know we we found the subject she's in a freezer and
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she's frozen solid yeah very very haunting um audio clip yeah now this case you you may have heard of about it
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in some form or another it's a bit of a water cooler case right now now this young lady was she murdered was she
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drugged was someone after her we don't know but what what I do know is as soon as people started talking Captain you
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and I started talking about this I was aware of this case and had heard about it but you know when I looked it up last
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week and even up to earlier today I've been sucked into this thing and spent a lot of time looking at a lot of
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different things actually and and a big thank you to the listeners because there
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was so many people on social media saying hey have you heard of this case nobody's talking about this case and and
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we see this often um where a you know a white girl goes missing or something happens with a white girl on media all
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over it but this is a young beautiful black woman and not a lot of people are talking about well it maybe in the realm
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of social media um but as far as big time media goes you're you're exactly right now uh I I've actually lost a few
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days on this one I mean completely like lost days on this thing so this is a rabbit hole Yeah we know everyone out
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there is is very busy so you don't need to lose days on this days like we both have but if you can hang with us in the
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garage for a little bit tonight and tomorrow we will bring you up to speed on everything we'll tell you what you
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need to know tell you what they they meaning the authorities kena's family in the hotel need to know or I guess need
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to find out figure out mhm uh because right now I believe kena's family needs a lot of information a lot of answers
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and support from both the local police and the Crown Plaza Hotel I am happy to say that I have seen a lot of support
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for her family coming from the public and of course we will all continue to do just that but if the police and the
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hotel don't have those answers they need to work together and get them for kena's
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family and we can even discuss here tonight if that is happening or not well and we see it multiple times in multiple
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cases if major media Outlets push an issue right or talk about something talk about a case enough that sometimes that
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puts enough pressure on police or uh people of power to do the right thing or to get the answers faster right and
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there is you know I kind of wanted to just explain what we were talking about in case people didn't recognize the name
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kenneka Jenkins um I wanted to say that from the jump and from the get-go because this is similar in a way to the
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Brandon Lawson case and the Missy beavers case where you know we're going to talk about things that are that were
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captured on camera and so you know you need to pay attention out there because there will be homework a homework
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assignment for you all you know we're not going to tell you what you got to go do but I guarantee after listening to
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this case for a little bit you're going to be trolling the internet looking for these videos wanting to see them
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with your own eyes all right so you're going to give us homework but you're not going to tell us what it is that's the
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toughest kind of homework you can receive my friend well let's start with the first footage that we see and it's
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of her and her friends walking into the hotel and it's they're just going into a
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party all right so the first thing I noticed here and want to point out is there is a time stamp in the top right
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of this surveillance footage and if you know the caveat here is if the time stamp is right uh this would make it at
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about 1213 a.m. um and we see Kena along with three other girls inside the Crown
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Plaza O'Hare Hotel uh so by this time it's technically September 9th um this must be a hallway just off of the lobby
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because you can see there on the right the the little business center you know with the the stack of computers mhm um
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from there the girls are going to get on an elevator now Kena is wearing jeans and a jean jacket um she does not have a
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purse with her but she has what what appears to me to be a cell phone in one hand and car keys in the other hand um
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at this point in the video I think she looks pretty sober and of sound mind to me I mean yeah it looks like all the
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ladies in the video are pretty sober there's four of them total now keep in mind as we said said just minutes ago
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there are already people upstairs on the ninth floor that they're going to go meet so they they are not showing up and
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checking into the hotel they are simply showing up to the hotel to meet the rest
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of this group uh and how far into the party they are at this point we don't know and the speculation about this is
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there's roughly about 30 some people at the party yeah that's correct so now in the next clip we're going to see the
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elevator door open um the time stamp now reads uh 2:24 a.m. um so just a little over 2 hours and we see Kena stumble off
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of the elevator um and she almost runs into the wall there yeah it takes it takes her about a minute or so to
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stumble down the hallway here and she's so disoriented that she almost falls into a rail there's like a set of stairs
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there and she doesn't appear like she has any desire to go up those stairs just that that she falls into the rail
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almost like a like a gut shot yeah there's a bunch of strange things here I mean anytime she's walking down a hall
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she kind of bumps into the wall mhm and that happens several times um and there's several hours of this footage of
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her kind of roaming around the hotel that's what it sounds like um but what has been released and what we are able
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to see are just minutes rather um but after she after she falls into that rail mhm she then goes away from the stairs
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and she looks like she's trying to kind of like like Shake It Off like kind of like pull herself together like okay I
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got this you know I almost fell into that rail but I'm going pull it together now MH and she steps toward the camera
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uh she makes a she goes to her right but it's our our left that we're looking at
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now she's going to turn here and this part to me is very telling and I mean mean telling of how like messed up she
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is like she she's walking with her head up and then her head goes back like back
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pretty far um she's not watching where she's going um but her head goes back it's almost like her head is too heavy
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or something MH uh and then she she's almost like like a zombie State at this point
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to me like uh doesn't really seem to be in control of much other than her feet yeah and I think originally looking at
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some of the footage you know with her bumping into the walls I I just assumed okay so she's 19 years old she's at a
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party possibly hasn't drank that much or drank that often in her lifetime so maybe she just had way too much to drink
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and then sometimes while you're at that party you kind of a you know you have a fight ORF flight mentality sometimes you
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get really wasted and you go okay I I got to get out of here and I think the key word words you said there is way too
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much to drink when you when you see this when I the first time I saw it my first
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take was wow she was at a hotel party she I mean she's consumed a lot of alcohol and I didn't even realize there
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was such a short window of time from the time she arrives looking sober to the point where she gets off this elevator
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just 2 hours later and she appears to have consumed a ton of alcohol and a disclaimer there's there
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hasn't been an autopsy released yet and there hasn't been a toxicology report released yet so we'll know more about
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that later um but again it the running into the walls okay maybe you're drunk but the the head leaning back I'm almost
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like you said like a zombie State yeah that's when I started getting this gut feeling that this um this young
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19-year-old female is not just intoxicated that she's not just she didn't just drink alcohol or maybe shots
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that there's something else going on here um that's put in her in a whole another realm now what that is I'm not
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really for sure now we see her go out of frame for just a like a split second or
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two uh and then she appears on camera again and she stumbles into a door and it looks like she actually enters
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whatever kind of room that is I I saw somewhere that it that it might be a restroom or maybe even a men's restroom
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uh but whatever it is uh she's only in there for about 40 to 45 seconds now once she appears again from that room
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she turns and she's heading in the direction of the camera it's it's hard to say but I think the way that she is
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walking it almost appears to and looks to me like she's getting more intoxicated or more disoriented uh by
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the minute mhm uh and at this point she has it appears like she has something in
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her hand and it's it's not what I saw before this this seems different uh where okay so what you thought you saw
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before was a cell phone yes yeah I thought I saw uh it what looked very obvious to me in that first frame was
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that she had the cell phone and keys MH this is neither one of those objects to me this is appears smaller um could even
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possibly be you know I've heard some speculation on this I when I see it it looks to me almost like a napkin or a
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tissue or paper towel of some sort maybe even waded up and now my question would
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be do you see this before she goes into the men's restroom or after I I did not notice it until after she comes out of
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that room okay so maybe she tried to get sick somewhere you know sometimes when you're I mean especially when you're
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drunk sometimes you just go hey if I can if I can puke I'll feel better right or
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if I can splash some water on my face um yeah I I couldn't tell because I mean sometimes I'm so drunk that I'll get
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into into a sink mhm and just take a shower in the sink like a like a little bird you know what I mean well prior to
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her going into that room she may have had this object in her hand I don't know but she most of the time she is walking
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away from the camera or she's got a side we have a side view of her and it's not
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until she's facing the camera again that I see this small object let's dive more
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mates cheers now where we left off is Kena is now she's stumbling down the hallway and she's walking back toward
00:31:46
the camera and this will bring us to the time stamp of about 232 um now we have Kena she is in the
00:31:56
kitchen um or in a kitchen and it's obvious that it's not an operating kitchen I mean
00:32:04
this kitchen from what I can see here on the camera is extremely empty I mean it
00:32:10
doesn't even look like a kitchen that was shut down for the evening because you know we're in the wee hours of the
00:32:15
morning well sometimes you know cuz I'd play a lot of weddings back in the cover
00:32:19
band days and so you'd play at a hotel and you'd have your Main Kitchen uh that was used for the hotel guests and all
00:32:26
that stuff but they have other kitchens like um like almost like remote kitchens
00:32:33
that they'd use for events right where they just caters that come in or things that come in for that night or a weekend
00:32:40
and then they disappear it seems like that's what this is well and one thing I want to make clear here is you know when
00:32:45
we say that we see her walking uh it's taking her a lot longer obviously to get down to make a path through a hallway or
00:32:54
through the kitchen than it would anybody that would be sober you know often she's not taking a direct path to
00:33:02
where she's attempting to go I guess you would say um but you know so she's stumbling about and it takes her quite
00:33:09
some time to navigate through the hallways through this kitchen um right right so I mean we have an individual
00:33:17
again fight or flight right we think that she's you know trying to leave that situation leave the party why is she
00:33:25
trying to leave what happened there she's definitely uh drunk or on drugs mhm now when we say that a lot of people
00:33:35
are going to say oh you're victim blaming no I'm saying that she is on drugs then the question becomes why is
00:33:43
she on those drugs right did she take them or were they given to her by somebody else and was and was it like
00:33:50
here take this you'll feel good and then she took it or was it she took these drugs not knowing so we have an individ
00:33:56
ual that is on something and I I bet money when that toxicology report comes out we're going to have a lot more
00:34:04
answers and it's not just going to be alcohol and and so but she's trying to get through this area this this hotel
00:34:12
and you know totally wasted right mhm and she doesn't know her way it's a large hotel too yeah so so when you say
00:34:20
it's taking her some time I think some of it is because of that intoxication but some of it is she want doesn't know
00:34:27
where she's gone and she's never been there before right you know what I mean now where we left off and where this
00:34:33
video is going to end you know she's in the kitchen making her way through the kitchen and then she's heading in the
00:34:40
direction of what would look to me like like the back part of the kitchen where possibly the freezer is or the freezer
00:34:47
door would be um and we will we will certainly find the best clips of this that we can find and put it on our
00:34:55
website at true Crim garage.com all right let's start diving into some of the questions like why are they there
00:35:01
why are they at this hotel um you know Hotel parties are not super common or at least in my world they they aren't I
00:35:07
mean even though you know I'm a big supporter of hotel motel holiday in and the captain is free on Friday night so
00:35:15
if if you know of a good one call me you know anyway so here's what I can gather
00:35:21
Captain is that it was for a birthday um and I believe it to be Irene Roberts birthday that they were going to be
00:35:30
celebrating at at this hotel party um I'm a little unclear as to how close Kena and Irene actually were right uh
00:35:40
there's a lot of reports out there that say they were best friends um there's also uh just as many reports out there
00:35:47
that says Irene was more of a friend of a friend um and then it might have been somebody in that group of four girls
00:35:55
that we saw walking into the Hotel one of you know that would have been very much closer with Irene than Kena would
00:36:01
have been well every hotel party I've ever been at it was always I was a friend of a friend M you know what I
00:36:08
mean I don't think I've ever went to a party where one of my close friends throwing the hotel party now we have a
00:36:15
little bit of background stuff um it would be nice if we could fill out that evening a little bit more if we could
00:36:22
fill out those hours and those minutes more um but what I can throw in there to kind of bookend this thing a little bit
00:36:30
to help out um there's a report of Kena having talked on the phone with her sister at around 1:30 a.m. that night
00:36:39
right so we we don't see her on camera uh as far as what's been released for about 2 hours we we have her going up
00:36:47
the elevator after midnight and then appearing stumbling off the elevator after 2: in the morning so right in the
00:36:55
middle there around that 130 Mark she called her sister okay and what was that conversation I don't know what the
00:37:03
conversation was about but what I can throw in there is that there's no reports of anybody saying she sounded
00:37:10
disoriented or she sounded in trouble um that has not come out um so right I don't believe that to be the situation
00:37:19
or I think we would have heard that by now MH uh eventually her friends called kena's mother uh her name is Teresa mark
00:37:27
now they called to say that they were going to be driving Teresa's car remember Kena borrowed her mother's car
00:37:33
that they were going to be driving Teresa's car back to her uh Teresa said that she then went to the hotel arriving
00:37:41
there around 5:00 a.m. to look for her daughter rewind a little bit okay so they call the mother at what time um she
00:37:49
reports on the 911 call that it was roughly around 4: in the morning okay so at 4: in the morning they're calling and
00:37:56
they say we can't find her right and we've looked around right and now see here's the tough thing is that the
00:38:03
police have like 36 hours of surveillance footage mhm and but you know main mainly that footage
00:38:12
is is of Kena but is there footage of her friends looking mhm I mean like I I I would wonder that because to me that
00:38:20
you know if you're calling somebody saying hey your daughter's missing we can't find her but there's no evidence
00:38:26
of you looking well I think there was evidence of them looking or or at least there's
00:38:32
people saying that they looked for her okay good okay you know I'm just trying to get all the little bits of evidence
00:38:39
out there well and there's that's the whole thing here that there seems to be a lot missing from the story right and
00:38:45
that makes me calling a question everybody at this point um you know so first off what did kena's friends say
00:38:53
happened to her well that seems like like it has been a little Hush Hush or maybe just severely overshadow shadowed
00:39:01
by all of the other stories regarding this case but I have heard two versions okay one several of her friends had last
00:39:09
seen Kena in the hotel lobby they left and when they returned she was no longer there but she they saw her in the lobby
00:39:18
that that was the first inated of this story that I heard yes so she's in so your friend is messed up up by herself
00:39:28
in the lobby and you just kind of walk away mhm really M well that's that's what kind of person you are like I said
00:39:34
that's the version I heard and I didn't hear it directly from any of those girls
00:39:38
so I don't know how accurate that statement is well and let's just get you know one of the elephants you know
00:39:44
that's in the room is you have this 19-year-old I mean she obviously looks I mean you can't really tell what our age
00:39:52
is from the footage mhm but I'm saying I mean she looks a little bit older than 19 is what I'm saying but but not much
00:40:03
and so you have this um female by herself walking these Halls intoxicated and security never comes up if she's in
00:40:14
the lobby nobody none of the staff comes up and talks to her right I mean you have a responsibility you know and not
00:40:22
just as you know not just as a worker you just have a responsibility as a human mhm well you do you want to hear
00:40:31
the other version of the last time we saw Kena story yeah yeah however in the other version of this story Captain uh
00:40:38
we only have one friend that was with with her outside of the room outside of the hotel room and she says uh didn't
00:40:45
leave her in the lobby says that she thought Kena was walking right behind her and at some point she turns around
00:40:53
and that is not the case Kena is not there of course we have to question both of
00:40:59
those stories right where was this friend walking to um I the way that I've heard it is that she was walking in a
00:41:05
hallway now this could be a hallway on the ninth floor on the 11th floor the third floor the lobby I don't know so we
00:41:13
but we could assume the majority of the individuals at this party are you know 19 to let's say 25 yeah yeah I would say
00:41:23
that's a accurate statement so I mean that come to play I mean as far as maturity and being able to go forth and
00:41:30
talk to adults and come forward and say and tell the truth MH I i' would say that comes into play well and of course
00:41:37
I have to question both of those stories because we have all of this other video
00:41:42
footage MH that's supposedly out there but we have no footage confirming which if either of these stories are actually
00:41:51
true now there was one report that I read that said that that she that Kena was spotted uh walking near the lobby
00:41:59
stumbling that is of course super unclear because does that mean she was spotted on camera you know as we have
00:42:06
already seen or was she spotted by a hotel employee or someone other than you know one of her friends uh because if so
00:42:14
I'm not sure why they would release portions of the tape and then not release other portions of the tape
00:42:21
mhm um you know and speaking of the tape let's let's get into this this argument
00:42:26
right well you know look they have to when they find her body right we don't know what what other evidence they have
00:42:38
mhm right so as of right now all we're hearing is that she walked into the freezer there was a camera above the
00:42:45
freezer that wasn't on or didn't work for whatever reason right so they don't have actual footage of her going in or
00:42:53
how she got in and so that um you know leads to speculation that maybe somebody was with her but all the video footage
00:43:00
before that kind of you know I would say argues that point argues that there was
00:43:06
somebody else with her so but what else do they know was there a puncture wound you know
00:43:15
was her head hit did she have a black eye you know what I mean there could be all these things that maybe they know
00:43:23
that we don't know so to be on the cop's side here maybe they've only released certain amount of footage because the
00:43:31
either the other footage is like it doesn't matter you don't need to see that mhm because when they say 36 hours
00:43:37
of footage they could have an hour of footage where she's way off in the distance and you can't really see
00:43:43
anything but they also have an investigation that they have to do and maybe there's certain key moments like
00:43:51
you said her talking to her friends in the lobby or whatever that the police are trying to get to the bottom of and
00:43:56
they don't want to uh mess up their investigation mhm I don't believe they have 36 hours of footage of Kena Jenkins
00:44:04
I don't think so either not for not for a second that's a hard sell for me because that means she's you got several
00:44:11
hours of her stumbling around I mean she didn't stumble around for a day and a half well I think maybe when they said
00:44:17
that we have 36 hours I mean you might have let's say in one hallway you might have two or three cameras MH so if she
00:44:24
stumbles around and let's say for 20 minutes and you have three or four different angles of this shot mhm then
00:44:32
you're adding that to the time right so so possibly it's like when she's in the kitchen there it seems like there's
00:44:39
multiple camera angles and stuff of this footage in the kitchen and so it's like
00:44:44
okay so maybe they they have a combined you know um and they might have some footage I'd be interested in this too I
00:44:52
mean I wonder if they have some footage of that the floor that the party was on right you know so you you're talking
00:45:01
about if they have footage of that and you have people going in and out of that party you're and you have two angles of
00:45:08
that and so you go well we got eight hours of that well two camera angles that's 16 hours we're getting a lot
00:45:15
closer to 36 but like you said I we're in agreement on the fact that the the footage you know they've released what
00:45:22
30 40 minutes to the mother I believe so yes and that might be all they have right and and they're getting kind of a
00:45:30
bad rap for that but that's a lot of footage that's a lot more footage than most people get well okay let's let's go
00:45:36
down that road for a little bit and um you know and then we'll get into the whole argument about these tapes because
00:45:42
obviously the police wanted the tapes right obviously uh then the family wanted the tape but there seems to have
00:45:49
been some delay just getting it to the police um and I here I'm going to try to offer a little bit of insight regarding
00:45:57
the cameras the first obvious thing I have here is these are motion sensored cameras a motion triggers the recording
00:46:06
and it records until the camera no longer detects motion uh one thing I was a little curious about is when Kena is
00:46:14
seen stumbling on tape and goes into the what I said could be a a restroom the camera quickly stops and then it starts
00:46:23
again after she returns and you would say Nick that makes sense because you just said they record once they detect
00:46:30
motion and then shut off once they don't and that could be the case but the systems I'm familiar with didn't time
00:46:39
out that fast when when the systems I used archived footage they would do one of the following depending on which uh
00:46:47
system I was using but one would tack on 5 Seconds to before motion was detected
00:46:53
and then tack on another 5 Seconds at the end yeah but it's re it's reasonable to believe that they edited this footage
00:47:01
that before they release it and then maybe and again it might not be the cops that are editing it it just might be the
00:47:08
news clip that's showing the footage that they go well what we need the 5 Seconds of nothing for right but then
00:47:15
that's the concern right the now the the other system I have used in the past would record uh until it had not
00:47:22
detected motion for 30 consecutive seconds well and okay so for some of the listeners that you know they don't know
00:47:28
you personally they don't know your deep thoughts they don't know your inner my shallow
00:47:35
thoughts no but you used to uh do security MH for what what would you call well one
00:47:42
would be similar to this situation where where I did security at a high-rise building for for many years um so here's
00:47:51
the thing regardless that means one of two things right we either have you can adjust the times on both those systems
00:47:58
that I used you can make them more efficient maybe you can't you can't have the ability to hold so much archive
00:48:05
footage so you really want to trim that down um so those can be adjusted but it means one of two things either like you
00:48:12
said it's edited or they have it set to timeout immediately M um now the hotel they have 47 cameras on this property
00:48:23
and so maybe for the storage purposes they wanted or set those systems to time out immediately uh but the reason why I
00:48:30
bring that up though is because that's an obvious point where it is some kind of edit uh or it timed out immediately
00:48:38
the concern here being is like you said who edited that tape was it the was it the uh news papers or the news footage
00:48:46
was it the police was it the hotel right not the newspapers but yeah the news news teams or or was it the police yeah
00:48:53
mhm now here's the thing about these these systems and I'm I'm assuming this is a digital system usually the systems
00:49:01
that are motion detective detected and they time out like that are all digital systems well just I mean it's 2017 right
00:49:09
and the the problem with that is when you are when you need to give footage to somebody it's not it's not as easy as
00:49:19
one might think this might be the cause for some delay of getting that footage to the police the way that I've heard
00:49:27
this explained to me is that the police did witness some of this video camera footage at the hotel itself but they're
00:49:34
saying we want our own copy of this and we want a copy of everything that you have and you said 36 hours I'm guessing
00:49:42
what that 36 hours means is that between the time that she arrived to about the time that they found her is roughly 36
00:49:50
hours we want to see all 36 of hours of that because we want to know and see every everything that that she could
00:49:56
have seen experienced or witnessed from the time she arrived until the time she was found well to maybe also we want to
00:50:04
see um from the time that she goes missing the actions of employees and actions of people from the party I mean
00:50:12
it puts a the cops in a tough situation too cuz then they have to believe you know let's say there is something
00:50:17
nefarious that happened you know let's say by a hotel worker or whatever then who has access to these tapes and who's
00:50:24
in charge of giving given the tapes to the cops mhm so I mean that that causes for a lot more speculation now I I do
00:50:32
want to throw this out there because at both places that I worked where we operated these sophisticated camera
00:50:38
systems we had a lot we had a large staff at both places okay in the last place that I worked there would be only
00:50:46
two people that would probably be able to provide you with archived footage there would only be two people that
00:50:53
would even be able to know how to go back back in time and show the footage to somebody there let alone send it off
00:51:00
to them um and at the place I worked before that it was even larger staff there might have been three or four
00:51:06
people that knew how to do that so that's obviously going to create some kind of delay um does it mean anything I
00:51:15
don't know should we blame anybody for it probably probably because if you have a a few people that can do that let's
00:51:22
get that person in here and let's get this squared away as quick as possible yeah but again you're again I think some
00:51:28
of this stuff is you know whether there's 5 Seconds there 5 Seconds not I mean we we kind of get pretty much the
00:51:35
full picture of what happened the big question is why didn't that camera above the freezer
00:51:41
work you know if there was a camera above the freezer there there's been an argument that there is no camera in that
00:51:48
location right but that's the tough thing about this case is whatever is brought up there's an argument there's
00:51:53
an equal argument against that so we have had publicly we have the family fighting to see all of the video mhm
00:52:01
which I think is which is a fair fight um even though they're not met with fairness on the other end um you know we
00:52:09
have the where's the push back coming from probably the police and the hotel as well uh but I think well there's yeah
00:52:16
there's been a lot of conflict between the family and the police department for from the get-go I mean I think the
00:52:22
mother wanted to see her uh 's body in the freezer and I don't think they they they said it's a crime scene you can't
00:52:30
come see this you know M you know to me and that's a very odd statement because well if it's a crime scene then yeah I
00:52:39
get the reason why you don't want her to see the body or you don't want her TOA contaminate any of that the crime scene
00:52:46
mhm but then if you start saying well we have reason to believe that this was accidental death well then is that a
00:52:53
crime scene well well I guess it's it's an investigation scene because here's here's what their
00:53:00
statement is this is the um this was as of uh September 25th the Rosemont police
00:53:07
department has classified this case as a death investigation the Cook County medical examiner's office has said the
00:53:16
cause and manner of Jenkins death is pending both additional police work and toxicology results police say that she
00:53:24
had been at the party with as many as 30 other people on the ninth floor of the clown Crown Plaza Hotel in
00:53:32
Rosemont okay so we don't know I'm glad it's not the Clown Plaza because that'd be scary well the the
00:53:40
Crown Plaza is acting like the Clown Plaza Plaza in the situation but um but so we we don't know Captain if if they
00:53:48
think this is an accidental death um it sounds like you know the the theories and the uh the people on the outside are
00:53:58
speculating that they that the police believe it to be an accidental death I don't think they do but their their
00:54:04
their their official statement is that they have classified this case as a death investigation and the medical
00:54:11
examiner's office says that it's the manner of her death is pending depend you know because they're waiting on
00:54:17
additional police work in toxicology results well because that toxicology report is that's the holy gra on this
00:54:23
case right because I think based off that and again we got a bunch of 19 and 20 year old people being
00:54:32
irresponsible not telling the truth not telling the you know that's what's sad is a lot of these individuals knew her
00:54:40
they were friends with her or at least acquaintances with her and they're not coming forward and telling the truth and
00:54:46
that's odd to me we should know more information about that party and we don't and that's odd to me well and
00:54:54
here's something that's really odd to me too is is the whole argument about these
00:54:59
tapes so I want I want to kind of go through this just briefly here okay so this was a statement that was released
00:55:05
from Powers Rogers and Smith um I'm sorry power Rogers and Smith this is the attorneys that kena's mother has hired
00:55:15
to represent her and to basically start their own investigation because we're not happy with the current investigation
00:55:23
M so there official statement was serious questions remain regarding what happened to kenneka Jenkins at the Crown
00:55:31
Plaza Hotel on September 9th 2017 Kena was found dead in the freezer of the hotel more than 36 hours after
00:55:39
her family reported her missing and told the hotel staff she was somewhere on their premises despite request for all
00:55:47
evidence we have only been provided Snippets of video none of which shows kenneka Jenkins walking into a freezer
00:55:55
the family has not been provided any video or other evidence of kenneka Jenkins walking into a freezer serious
00:56:02
questions remain as to how she ended up in the Crown Plaza Hotel freezer and why
00:56:07
it took a day and a half for the hotel to find Kena her death requires a thorough complete and independent
00:56:16
investigation the family thanks the public for its prayers concerns and for bringing attention to this tragedy uh
00:56:23
the mother has retained Rogers Jr of power Rogers and Smith LLP and Sam Adam Jr to conduct an investigation and speak
00:56:33
on behalf of the family no other person is or has been authorized to speak on behalf of kenneka Jenkin family please
00:56:42
respect their privacy as They Mourn and prepare to bury their beautiful 19-year-old now the reason why I kind of
00:56:49
got loud on the no other person has been authorized or or is authorized to speak
00:56:56
on behalf of the Kena Jenkins family is because we have this Chicago activist his name is Andrew Holmes he comes
00:57:05
forward and he gives a press conference in which he says and this is not verbatim but he says that he was shown
00:57:12
the video footage and he claims that they were when when looking it looking at it and viewing it himself they wanted
00:57:20
to see it he wanted to see it because he was looking to see if somebody walk walked her into that freezer if somebody
00:57:26
placed her in there pulled her in m and he said the video footage he had seen did not show that his words make it
00:57:34
sound like that he claims to have seen Kena walk into the freezer alone right so there's this throws this whole thing
00:57:43
into into a tizzy because everybody immediately wants to know well if there is that footage and we can clear this
00:57:51
whole thing up right then and there why hasn't this been released why hasn't this been shown to the family so they
00:57:57
quit bringing this to the attention of the police and and battling with the police about what was found and what was
00:58:03
not found um I think this Andrew Holmes I think he misspoke during his press conference I I watched it time and time
00:58:13
again it it looks to me like he like he's simply saying we don't see somebody pull her in there we don't see anybody
00:58:21
walk her in there and the way he words it makes it sound like uh you know I saw footage of her walking in on her own I
00:58:30
don't believe that that's what he saw but but I have an issue with him being shown this
00:58:37
footage when we have family who have have been denied certain pieces of this footage right and here's what I think
00:58:44
happened with this situation if he saw the footage though well or if he's just talking out of his ass I mean there are
00:58:50
some people that will just talk excuse me out of my ass or well I believe he saw the footage
00:58:59
Captain I believe he was shown the footage I think he probably misrepresented uh the family by saying I
00:59:06
think he probably presented himself as he's representing the family but he wasn't in fact um I think police showed
00:59:13
him this footage because they were catching a lot of right so why would they show the footage to this guy that
00:59:19
has no connection to the case at all and not show it to the family well the public in up Cry The public's in a stir
00:59:26
I think they thought that if if they show it to him and he makes some kind of Public Announcement this thing will die
00:59:33
down if you're willing to show it to him why aren't you willing it to show it to
00:59:37
the mother right and that's the big problem I have I have I have a huge problem with that and I think this was
00:59:42
all crowd control I think this was just a way of of trying to calm the masses right and look I'm all for throwing the
00:59:50
police under the bus when they do something shitty but I don't know if this is that case you know this guy
00:59:56
might just be misspeaking completely and this footage was not shown it doesn't make any sense why they'd show it to
01:00:02
activist not the mother you know I mean what what are they trying to get out of that I mean like you said well they
01:00:09
showed it to somebody so then that clears the air and look I I think that was their intention and I I don't know
01:00:15
that that came from the police it could have came from the mayor I don't know that but I think that that was their
01:00:20
intention the reason why I believe that is because I have another statement from
01:00:25
kena's mother who says that when protesters were gathering outside of the hotel she was contacted by Andrew Holmes
01:00:33
the same activist and he tells her to get online and call off the protesters because the hotel is is broke and
01:00:42
they're not making any money this is this to me is another another spin another crowd control technique yeah
01:00:52
but what's the motivation for that because if there's a wrongful death you need that that hotel to be in business
01:00:59
so you can sue them now the other thing here is we have police who will will come out and they will say that they are
01:01:05
busy analyzing the video from again uh 47 different Hotel cameras um and certain videos related to this
01:01:14
investigation see that those are interesting words certain videos related to this investigation yeah you know what
01:01:20
that is that's like Snapchat that's Facebook that's all this other stuff cuz there's some [ __ ] that happened in that
01:01:25
party and it was captured by cell phones and they're trying to get to the bottom
01:01:30
of that and the other problem too is when there's a speculation of 30 some individuals at this party and the police
01:01:36
have come out and said hey we're having a really hard time talking to half of them half of them aren't being
01:01:41
cooperative or we don't even know who half of them are mhm and and you know maybe the police don't know who half of
01:01:48
them are but the other half of the people that the party know who they are and why aren't you telling the cops who
01:01:53
they are well police also announced that they were reviewing a Facebook live video that reportedly shows Jenkin
01:02:01
sitting on a hotel bed with other people in a ninth floor room authorities also have interviewed 12 people as part of
01:02:10
their investigation eight of whom were at the hotel party uh that night uh they are looking for four others who were
01:02:18
present that night okay so look there's so much more to get into right mhm this case is so
01:02:28
frustrating um look I think as far as the footage goes because let's wrap it up on the footage talk right as far as
01:02:36
the footage goes I think it's important to see to kind of get idea of what mental state she is inh or what physical
01:02:45
state she's in you know again bumping into the walls is kind of weird but I mean hidden rails and catching yourself
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or walking with your head super far back it's like again what was she on and I don't think there is any clear footage
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of anybody with her in that kitchen and I could be wrong I but I just out of all
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the footage I've seen doesn't make any sense I think she walked into that Freezer by
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herself now my question is what drug was she on who gave it to her and was there
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some purpose for giving her that drug mhm and to me this is not you know when we
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first you know I got email after email and Facebook and Instagram and and all that stuff people saying hey you got to
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check out this case are you following this case you know I look into it I don't know 15 20 minutes in I'm like
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okay it's accidental death it's a it's a 19-year-old that want to party and maybe
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got into some stuff that she shouldn't MH right mhm that's that was my initial thought then you start diving into some
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of this speculation and some of these things that don't add up then I started going this ain't an act this is not an
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accidental death and I actually don't think that the police think that either even though they they're saying it's a
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death investigation I believe that's what it should be at this point but I'm with you Captain I don't think they
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think it's accidental right but that's why they're making the statement they're not saying this is an accidental death
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investigation they're saying this is a death inv because I think they know some stuff and
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and people eventually crack and I think they know more than that they can tell and the reason why so you can't sit
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there and just go hey piece of [ __ ] cop piece of [ __ ] cop law enforcement is out
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to screw this family over some of it is they might know some stuff and they got to keep that in because if that gets out
01:04:45
then people might stop talking right so I think they know more than they're leading on and that's why they called it
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a death investigation and I think eventually it's going to become a murder investigation I think you're exactly
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right and I think uh you know all right on tomorrow this this case like it's just one of those cases that like pisses
01:05:07
you off you know right and here's what we're going to do sorry if we sound like crazy Psychopaths well we're going to
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present some different things to you that will back up our beliefs and why this should be a murder investigation
01:05:20
and it will and will eventually evolve into that and I also think this is a very solvable case uh I think right now
01:05:28
we're sitting here needing a lot of answers the family needs and deserves a lot of answers I think they're going to
01:05:34
start piecing this thing together and there could be a lot of people in trouble a lot of people have been
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