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let's talk some true crime [Music] here Captain is another interesting scandalous dirty deed conducted by Alec
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Murdoch at the hospital with cops looking into speaking to all of the kids Alec recommended to Connor Cook's family
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to hire a one Corey Fleming as an attorney to represent Connor according to the cooks Alec neglected to mention
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that the attorney that he is telling them to use Corey Fleming was Paul Murdoch's Godfather
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and Alec Murdoch's college roommate and close friend if not his best of friends yeah besties the alleged idea is that
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Alec Murdoch deliberately hooked Connor up with Corey Fleming so that Fleming could ensure that Connor not Paul was
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seen as the driver of the boat on that fateful night in 2021 attorneys representing Connor and
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Connor Cook verse South Carolina a Department of Natural Resources filed for privil suit Discovery requesting
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depositions of a number of Law Enforcement Officers these were necessary because the court filings
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allege there was a conspiracy to cover up Paul's involvement in the crash and pin it on Connor the petition adds that
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these deponents may have information regarding a conspiracy to misdirect the criminal investigation away from Paul
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Murdoch and wrongfully shift the focus to Connor the law enforcement officers mentioned in this petition are Michael
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Brock Austin Pritcher who we talked about quite a bit in episode one John Leroy Keener
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III Robin camelin and Troy Andrew CFE the petition adds that the petitioner is informed and believes that certain
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evidence gathered at the scene and thereafter is now unable to be accounted for by law enforcement authorities and
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that opponents will be questioned about the failure to conduct an appropriate investigation including the failure to
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administer field exercises to Paul Murdoch in other words the lawsuit alleges Alec Murdoch set Connor Cook up
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with Fleming who told him not to talk to the investigators as part of a campaign
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to ensure he was wrongly identified as the driver of the boat yeah it's sad they also alleged that the officers
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failed to collect Paul's phone and failed to give field sobriety test at the scene only after Connor fired Corey
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Fleming and obtained new attorneys and spoke to prosecutors was Paul Murdoch charged well that's interesting he has
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to change his lawyers shift his lawyers before we even see charges brought against Paul Murdoch Connor was told by
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Alec Murdoch and Corey Fleming to keep his his mouth shut part of an orchestrated campaign to hold Connor
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both civil and criminally responsible for the incident per Newsweek Alec Murdoch approached cook in the hallway
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of the hospital as he was heading to get his jaw X-ray and told him everything would be all right if he would keep his
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mouth shut no pun intended Connor said he was intimidated by the murdocks and was deliberately vague about who was
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driving until he realized that he was the intended scapegoat a civil conspiracy among five Law Enforcement
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Officers resulting in knowing attempts to interfere with the investigation the five officers have information as to a
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campaign to Cloud the investigatory issues and disseminate false information in the community with the intention of
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misleading law enforcement and prosecution charging parties and the public into wrongly and falsely
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believing Conor cook should be arrested and charged as the boat operator all right this is a lot to unpack and I'm
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trying to follow you we have this it's hard to even call it an accident because I think Paul was
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driving maliciously he was drunk and I think acting completely irresponsible police show up at the scene they don't
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do a sobriety check on Paul people are making statements multiple people in the boats stating that Paul was drunk
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stating he was driving crazy stating that Paul was driving and now once they get to the hospital it seems like Alex
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the head of the Murdoch family is now trying to shift the narrative away from his son and put the blame onto Connor
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which is the one that made the 911 call but what you just stated there and if I'm following you correctly is that
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there was five law enforcement officers that were involved in trying to turn this whole plot against Paul into a plot
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against Connor yes that's what the law suit alleges now as far as the law enforcement officers and their quote
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unquote involvement to me it looks more like they chose to sit on their hands and do nothing right and then things got
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got wonky afterwards and of course someone has to be operating the boat now we know that Alec Mur
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is going to try to shift this into Connor was operating the boat because of statements that come from the passengers
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where you know Paul was driving but Connor had to save them from smashing into something when they were going the
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wrong way he you know had to grab the wheel and and jerk the wheel so they wouldn't smash into something right and
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then at another time when Paul decides to leave the wheel go up to the front of the boat and smack his girlfriend and
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spit on her and call her name somebody had to step in and grabb the wheel then too and that was Connor again
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so Connor becomes the likely scapegoat of oh well we we can take this situation make it a little confusing and maybe we
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throw it in a blender and hit the hit the button a few times and now when we when we pull it out and take off the lid
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it looks like Connor was the driver the thing too is again somebody has to be held responsible for operating the boat
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we know that somebody was operating the boat and I I really like that you and everybody else out there picked up on
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this because this is something that was interesting to me it wasn't a question about if there was somebody that was
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drunk driving that night that seemed pretty obvious but the more that I dove into this situation and the written
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statements of the passengers on the boat that night it was clear to me that Not only was Paul drunk driving but he's
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also like crazy driving like oh yeah oh you're telling me I can't drive my boat you know I somebody else is going to
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drive the boat he's just driving like a maniac very Reckless Behavior on top of what was already Reckless Behavior of
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the drunk driving well he's acting as if he has no concern for others period and
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he should be arrested for being abusive towards his girlfriend and spitting on her that's ass salt well Connor Cook's
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lawsuit which was filed on September 20th of 2021 named defendants and the named
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defendants are Alec and Buster Murdoch part Parkers 55 Incorporated that's the convenience store where the alcohol was
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illegally purchased and Parker's employee the Parker's employee who rang up Paul Murdoch's purchase of booze the
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lawsuit alleges that buster Murdoch gave his teenage brother Paul his driver's license so that Paul could buy alcohol
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the driver's license along with a thirdparty credit card used should have alerted the Parker
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employee that this is probably an illegal sale so the credit card reportedly belonged to Maggie right so
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they're saying this should have tipped off the employee you're getting an ID that has one person's name on it and a
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credit card that has somebody else's name on it right neither belonging to Paul Murdoch the suit goes on to allege
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that Paul Murdoch was drinking all day long and should have been stopped from driving the boat by the boat's
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registered owner which is his father Alec Murdoch it maintains that Alec Murdoch knew Paul was a habitual Drinker
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I yeah but his father's not going to be a father as much as we dislike Alec Murdoch it's it's difficult to say that
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he's not intelligent he's just a shitty person he should be able to see the the writing on the wall here his son is a
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problem and continues to be a problem leading up to this horrible tragedy of the boat crash seems like this family is
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so greedy and they probably spend a lot of their time focusing on trying to build wealth that they don't spend time
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on trying to build character within their sons they're spending too much time covering up their real character to
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build any character in the process so that's one lawsuit captain now Connor Cook wasn't the only one to sue before
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Connor sued mallerie Beach's mom Renee filed a wrongful death lawsuit back in March of
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2019 just one month after the boat crash now the initial complaint named a whole
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slew of defendants and a lot of these are the same that were in the other lawsuit so again we have Gregory Parker
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Incorporated which is AKA The Parker Corporation this is the the convenience store where the kids bought their booze
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they also are suing the bar where the underage kids Connor and Paul drank the shots they are suing the wood the woods
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family who hosted the oyster bake at their home and again that's why we say it's up for the debate on whether the
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adults at this party knew that kids were there drinking right goes on to sue Alec
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Murdoch as well as Buster Murdoch Jr and Randolph Murdoch the grandfather basically the suit alleges that Parker
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and the bar should not have served the kids who were underage that the woods knew about and should not have allowed
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underage drinking at their home and their party and that Alec knew about and should not have allowed drinking on his
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boat and that Randolph knew about and should not have allowed drinking on the island he's the property owner and that
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buster the brother knew about and should not have allowed Paul to use his ID to purchase alcohol illegally the lawsuit
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maintains that all of these events contributed to the boat crash and the wrongful death well it's one thing for
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the parents not to have seen the kids drinking when Paul's friends are saying that he's acting erratic you would think
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that these parents would have noticed at least his actions maybe not noticed him
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drinking but noticed that he was visibly drunk well and there's conflicting statements from people that were at that
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party some saying that it was well known that kids were there drinking underage and others saying nope nobody underage
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was drinking here at all right but again we we already have evidence that Paul's
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father is trying to cover his tracks so I would say the the parents that are saying oh we didn't see anybody drinking
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that's Paul's father getting to them and covering his tracks well I have a hard time believing it's not impossible but I
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have a hard time believing that if they weren't drinking at the party that Paul Murdoch was able to get three times over
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the legal limit in about an hour and a half right that's some that's some serious binge drinking if that's what in
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fact happened here now what's interesting though Captain is notice who was not mentioned in the lawsuit and
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that's Paul Murdoch who was driving the boat that night and my guess is is it's because you don't sue people that don't
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have any money right and so him being the youngest person on there and not a corporation his name seems to be absent
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from that lawsuit now after the suit was filed Alec Murdoch resisted turning over
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financial documents you know you you have to turn over these financial documents because of course scumbag
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they're entitled to know what means he had of paying off any jury award or settlement money in this civil case so
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the walls are closing in on Alec Murdoch and his family he and Maggie sold one of
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their homes in May of 2020 so it looks like from the outside looking in here Captain it looks to me like things
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aren't great for them financially at this point well it seemed at some point in this lawsuit that there might have
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been some negotiations to settle this but at some point that ended yeah and then there's also Paul's criminal trial
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right for killing malerie and of course Co caused major delays so as of June 2021 Paul was still awaiting a trial
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date to be set he was facing 25 years in prison but for now he was out and about
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and living his normal life and he's 22 years old at this point he completed his junior year at the University of South
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Carolina and was home for the summer when all hell broke loose I just want to reiterate that mallerie beach is not
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back in college that she's not back to her regular life MH on June 7th 2020 at 10:07 p.m. Alec Murdoch called 911 we
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tried to clean up the audio of this call as much as we could the dispatcher's voice is very harsh so you might want to
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turn down your volume just a little bit during this call emergency 4147 Mo Road I need the police
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immedately my wife Man Child badly okay you said 40147 Mo and Allison you said 4147 Mosel R and
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Allison yes sir 4147 Ro stay on the line with me okay yes sir stay on the line with me
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okay hello I'm still here still on the line I'm still here okay callon I have a Alex Murdoch on the
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line caller from 4147 Mosel Road he's advising that his wife and child was shot Mr Murdock go ahead and talk to
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call 4147 Mosel Ro I've been up to it now it's bad Communications I have a Alex Murdoch on
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the line caller from 4147 Mosel Road he's advising that his wife and child was shot okay and Sir give me the
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address again 4147 Mosel Road I've been up to it now it's bad okay okay and are they
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breathing no ma'am okay and you said it's your wife and your son my wife and my son are they in a vehicle no ma'am
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they're on the ground out at my kennel okay and did you see anyone okay is he breathing at all no nobody is she
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okay do you see anything do you see anyone in the area no ma'am no ma'am what color is
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your house on the outside what color is your house on the outside it's white you can't see it from
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the road okay is it a house or a mobile home it's a house okay and what is your name my name is Alec Mur
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okay did you hear anything or did you come home and find them I've been gone I I just came
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back and was anyone else supposed to be at your house no [Applause] [Music] ma'am please hurry we're getting
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somebody out there to you [Music] okay what is her name Maggie Maggie and Paul Maggie her
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name yes ma'am okay and please hurry we're getting somebody out there too me asking you these questions don't slow
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them down okay and you sure they're not breathing is he moving at all your son I
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know you said that she was shot but what about your son nobody they're not NE the one's
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[Applause] moving what is your telephone [Applause] number and does anything look out of
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[Applause] place not not particularly really no ma'am okay [Applause] okay all right I'm going back down
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[Applause] there are they close ma'am yeah they're they've been arounde with you ever since
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you've got on the phone with me I have multiple people coming out there to [Music]
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[Music] you okay can you do me a favor Mr Murdoch and turn on the flashers on your
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car so that way they can see where the kennels are do you have your flashes on for me
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Mr Murdoch yes okay I don't want you to touch them at all okay I don't I don't know if you've already touched them but
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I don't I don't want you to touch them just in case they can get any kind of evidence okay I I already touched them
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trying to get a um to see if they were [Music] breathing okay well I I just don't want
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you to move anything just in case they can get any kind of evidence okay can you me
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please oh Ma'am I'm going to call I I need to call some of my family okay well well do
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me a favor for me whenever you see the officer or the Medics because they're they're all coming to you absolutely
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okay but we have them come in turn on the flashes on your vehicle so they can see you
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okay you got the flashers on for me I do okay all right just whenever you see them
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okay how old is your son 22 okay all right we're we're getting them out there to you okay and I
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Angie that [Music] all right we are back cheers mates I'm back he's back we're all back cheers to
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the people in the front and on the sides and the back as you heard we can hear a
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distr sounding Alec Murdoch he's gasping trying to tell the 911 dispatcher that he needs police police and ambulance
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immediately his wife and child have been shot badly please hurry I'm not going to go through the
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entire call there but some key points there he States out that that neither of them are breathing when he found them
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and the dispatcher asked him not to touch the bodies he says I've already touched them to see if they were
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breathing he distinctively says that he just got back that he was previously gone yes so the fall lasts about 6 and
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1/2 minutes and the Sheriff's Office was dispatched immediately they arrive about
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20 minutes later they called in sled at 10:28 and Agents from sled arrive on scene at
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11:47 for context the shootings happened at the murdo's very remote hunting lodge
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a home that they called mostley that that sat on 1,770 private acres in Ison now Ison is
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a rural small town about 65 miles west of Charleston and the Murdo estate was outside of town now one thing that I
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thought was very smart of emergency Personnel the dispatcher there telling Alec hey turn on the flashers or the
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blinkers on your car so that when emergency Personnel arrive on scene they know where you are because if anybody's
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googled this property or or seen video of it uh there's aerial video footage of this property it's it's large and it's
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in the center of it it's rather open and you can see that there could be multiple
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buildings or anywhere outside that the two victims could be when Personnel is arriving on the scene and of course even
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though Alec Murdoch says hey they're not breathing we want to get to them as fast
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as we can and try to save Liv lives so I thought it was very smart of the dispatcher to recommend putting on the
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flashers of well they also don't know if the shooter is still there correct so this identifies him not only where the
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bodies are but identifies him as the person that called and and possibly not the shooter that's one thing that I kind
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of called into question too Alec Murdoch seems to be of zero concern if the shooter or shooters are still there yeah
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very good point and it's like well does he know that they wouldn't be there or is he just so distraught from the
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scene that that's of little to no concern that's not even a thought that's managed to make it to his head yet and I
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don't have the information but I also when you're questioning that to me it's well how many entrances and exits are
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there to this property and is it one of those things where he he entered the only way you could could and there was
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no car in in his path he saw no car so therefore he just assumes that they're gone well and one thing I wanted to
00:31:06
point out with this property is that this is a extremely remote private property right so right it's not a
00:31:13
situation where somebody's just looking up an address and then driving out there
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and locating the the place very easily now this home was Maggie's preferred home again we already stated that they
00:31:27
had several homes this is the one that she spent most of her time and preferred to spend most of her time at this
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residents this is because of the dogs so they had a a kennel and I think you hear
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him reference that on the call if not he at least references it during the you know the later days right but the
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kennels were where the bodies of Maggie and Paul were found lying close to each each other which is about A4 mile from
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the home that sits on the property so very large property here now very little next to nothing actually was released
00:32:07
about the shootings and the investigation officers with the culton County Sheriff's Office reported that
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they had discovered several shell casings at the scene and that Maggie and Paul were killed by different
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Firearms but then they handed over the investigation to sled which is now being sued by multiple media outlets for not
00:32:30
complying with Foya rules now sled stands for it's the South Carolina state law enforcement division we have
00:32:40
discussed sled here on the show many times in the past but for those unfamiliar the primary mission of the
00:32:48
state law enforcement division is to provide quality Manpower and technical assistance to law enforcement agencies
00:32:56
and to conduct investigations on behalf of the state as directed by the governor
00:33:02
and the Attorney General now of course sled has done a lot of really great work on several cases that we have discussed
00:33:09
definitely but specifically they did absolutely groundbreaking Gang Busters work in the mid 80s on the Sher Smith
00:33:17
and Deborah helmet cases that we covered here and don't forget the the Gutierrez
00:33:23
case that they just made an arrest in they made that arrest in North Carolina but they made it because sled reopened
00:33:30
the investigation so I won't be handing out the same critique as we did for the other agencies as sled has certainly
00:33:36
earned a high level of garage cred here but here is what we have gathered as for
00:33:44
what went down in this Maggie and Paul motherson double homicide situation this is coming from fits news they reported
00:33:53
that authorities believe Paul was killed with a shot shot gun and that his mother
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was killed with a semi-automatic rifle The Wall Street Journal has the most information reporting that according to
00:34:06
the death certificates Paul was shot in the chest and head according to a person
00:34:12
close to the investigation he was shot at close range with a shotgun we also learned that
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Maggie was shot multiple times including in the back with a different gun and cases of a type of ammunition known as
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300 Blackout were found nearby this according to two people close to the situation adding that the Murdoch family
00:34:36
owned an AR15 style rifle that can use that type of ammunition but it was not was not recovered at the scene or turned
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over for inspection that's a little suspicious so the media has published these unsubstantiated reports but
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official statements are few and far between reports submitted to the court backing up sled's heavy redaction of
00:35:02
police reports indicate that at least one firearm was seized at the scene fits news says that at least one of the
00:35:10
weapons used in the shooting belonged to the family it also reports that casings
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were recovered and sheriff's deputies were seen searching a swampy area near the property and it has been widely
00:35:24
reported that Maggie's self phone was found on a road outside of the property so maybe one of the shooters collected
00:35:34
her phone seems odd though maybe both phones but collected her phone and just tossed it out the window as they drove
00:35:41
away from the scene possible it does seem a little odd but not if you want to prevent somebody from calling 911 and
00:35:48
saving their own life so they can testify against you later in court yeah good point one of the Murdoch's extended
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family members used f find my iPhone to Ping it so police could locate it that's
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how they located the phone finally fits news reports that redacted police reports about the scene indicate that
00:36:08
there was a third party a third party at the scene when police arrived on the scene this person's name has not been
00:36:16
released to the public interesting that they're not calling them a a witness or a suspect my guess is maybe that this
00:36:23
person was on the property you did say it's a large property and had no knowledge that the crime took place at
00:36:30
the time that the crime took place and then they don't want to name the individual because they don't want
00:36:35
people jumping to conclusions or or pointing the finger and saying that that person is a suspect well and the other
00:36:41
thing here Captain is we got to keep in mind that this property you know they had the dog kennel there this was also
00:36:49
like a a hunting an Outdoorsman type property so there were a lot of guns on this property makes me wonder if
00:36:59
there was like um trail cams well and I always wonder too when you have people that have this kind of money and this
00:37:06
kind of property this just happened recently we're not talking about a case that was 20 30 40 years ago right I
00:37:13
don't understand why people don't up their security game and have some cameras of their own and other things in
00:37:20
place when you have the means to do so yeah this portion of the show is brought to you by simply safe that's right now
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the thing here though is what the reason why I'm pointing out that the murdochs had a lot of guns on this property is
00:37:34
because it sounds very suspicious when you say all right well we're hearing from somebody a bit of a rumor that that
00:37:41
one of them may have been shot with a gun that owned by the Muro now we don't know what went down I mean this could be
00:37:49
a situation where one of them is being attacked and the other responds with gun and in hand and somehow in a in a
00:37:59
scuffle ends up losing control of the gun and being shot with their own gun it's it's possible it's possible I I
00:38:07
think until we have more information it's really difficult to kind of deduce what happened at this scene well based
00:38:13
on the history of this family and the their lack of character it's funny we talk about this huge property one
00:38:21
property of many that people with so little character can have so much and the ways of material things but my first
00:38:29
question becomes okay well this father is not to be trusted even though he's the one calling 911 it's like do
00:38:38
some tests to see if he fired any firearms that day well let's continue on through some of the official stuff and
00:38:46
then we'll get into some of the things that we were able to find and uncover the Colton County coroner made the
00:38:55
official identification a of the bodies of Maggie and Paul and that they were killed by multiple gunshot wounds in the
00:39:02
double homicide that's their official statement they died sometime between 9 and 9:30 p.m. but police made a
00:39:09
statement to the effect that there was no danger to the public but also saying that they had no suspects well we've
00:39:17
seen this movie before right captain we're being told by law enforcement that there is no danger to the public but we
00:39:25
don't have any Suspects right well if you don't know who did this how do you know that there is no danger to the
00:39:29
public how do we know that this wasn't just a random act of violence or some kind of Thrill Kill there's two people
00:39:35
dead by gunshot right you you should be worried I feel like I'm in danger no Manhunt was announced either now what do
00:39:44
police know about who shot Paul and Maggie that's the question right even if they're not publicly announcing a
00:39:51
suspect do they actually have a suspect and believe that these two were targeted
00:39:56
or one was targeted for any number of reasons and just because there's two types of ammo doesn't mean that there
00:40:02
were two different Shooters it just means that there were two different weapons again a shooter could have
00:40:09
brought one firearm to the scene and then somehow one of them comes to defend themselves or defend the other with a
00:40:17
gun in hand a Murdoch comes with gun in hand right and ends up getting the gun turned on them somehow well everybody of
00:40:24
course is going to want to know what is Al Murdoch's Alibi where was he before he arrives home to this bloodbath I find
00:40:33
it very suspicious that he's pretty clear that I just showed up I wasn't here before yeah I I get it and and I
00:40:41
think it's suspicious too the problem with Alec Murdoch is let's say he's completely innocent in this situation in
00:40:48
this one particular situation and then he then becomes a victim himself and unfortunately he had to arrive home to
00:40:56
seeing the worst thing you can imagine your wife and child dead the problem with him is he's such a shady character
00:41:04
right that you cannot look at him without giving the old stink eye in any situation stink and pink y that's right
00:41:12
because he's just again he's such a shady character you feel like you cannot if his if his lips are moving that's how
00:41:18
you can tell he's lying that's the kind of kind of guy that I peg him as but on the toil Devil's Advocate it's really
00:41:25
hard to know how you'd react I'd hate to have something tragic like this happen and then my 911 call is going to be
00:41:35
scrutinized by anybody but with all that said my speculation is it seems like he's kind of playing to the crowd with
00:41:42
this call and you're such in shock but you're telling the people you have to go cuz you have to call other family
00:41:48
members right yeah I didn't like that one bit but the other thing back to him pointing out that he just arrived on the
00:41:55
scene himself you wonder like is that him going out of his way to say hey look I just got here
00:42:01
I was gone by the way or is it just him letting the emergency operator know I cannot offer up any more information I
00:42:12
just arrived on the scene myself now his Alibi and it seems like he's got a pretty good one here this is according
00:42:18
to the Wall Street Journal says that on the evening of the shooting Alec Murdoch
00:42:24
was with his father at the Hospital Randol who was very sick remember we think Randolph is a little shady too in
00:42:32
fact Randol is 81 years old on this day and Old Randolph Murdoch ended up passing away from natural causes just 3
00:42:41
days after Maggie and Paul were murdered so to say that he was sick seems to be easily confirmed he was at a savannah
00:42:51
hospital and was quite ill the the father at this time I'm guessing law enforcement check out his Alibi cuz the
00:42:57
hospital would have had surveillance cameras it would be difficult for Alec Murdoch to be lying about his
00:43:03
whereabouts to to use this as an alibi and to for it to be false a false Alibi and Alec Murdoch if you haven't seen him
00:43:11
again a lot of these photos will'll post on our website at true Crim garage.com or Twitter Facebook Instagram all that
00:43:19
stuff we we try to post some pictures from the case onto the social media site so if you're not following Falls there
00:43:27
but Alec Murdoch kind of looks like if you took Conan O'Brien and you put him in a bag and you lit him on fire and
00:43:35
then you put him on a porch and had somebody step him out that's kind of what he looks like the police have not
00:43:42
addressed Alex's whereabouts that night but keep in mind Alec Murdoch has technically not been named publicly
00:43:50
anyway as a person of interest in the shooting so possibly his Alibi is holding up and holding up strong wrong
00:43:56
according to reports Buster Murdoch the other son was placed somewhere else that
00:44:03
night as well but if you wanted to hire somebody to kill your family members hey
00:44:08
make sure you have a solid Alibi yeah make sure you're not home when that goes down the other problem with this whole
00:44:14
scenario is this kid that has been murdered was responsible for the death of a young woman mhm and so anybody in
00:44:25
that family or anybody that would know her would have motive to wipe this bag of [ __ ] off the face of the Earth well
00:44:36
in this situation the whole Murdoch family murders every piece of this situation is
00:44:42
incredibly fluid at the moment so while we're recording this two days before it will come out some of this could
00:44:49
potentially change between now and then that's the risk that we're we're laying down for you here in the garage but the
00:44:56
short of it is that no suspects have been named in the shootings of Maggie and Paul and there have been no
00:45:03
arrest but two of Alex's Brothers appeared on ABC's Good Morning America and stated that Paul Murdoch had been
00:45:10
the subject of death threats since he was charged in the death of mallerie Beach and the local newspaper the Island
00:45:17
packet reported that investigators were looking into the possibility that Paul was the intended target right if you
00:45:24
think about it there were a lot of people who might have been really pissed that they were dragged through the mud
00:45:31
because of the boat accident that again all signs point toward Paul being responsible for mallerie's death well
00:45:37
think about the other kids on the boat that day when they're saying look this guy acted recklessly and he's not going
00:45:44
to get in trouble for it and we have reports of people saying he that Paul was smiling back at them like yeah I
00:45:51
know I'm not going to get in trouble for this so in some of those cases you want
00:45:55
to take Revenge into your own hands and I think his mother was just a bystandard
00:46:00
of that we were kind of talking about this off mic earlier was if somebody wanted to kill him in Revenge chances
00:46:08
are the mother would be able to identify that person I don't know if there's two
00:46:13
Shooters but you could you could make an argument that multiple people would have
00:46:19
the motive to want yeah there's no shortage of people that might have it out for Paul Murdoch I mean just off the
00:46:25
top of my big beautiful head here we have the people at the convenience store who are being sued Luther's Bar who's
00:46:33
being sued the woods family who is being sued yeah the other kids on the boat one
00:46:38
who lost his girlfriend right and one who allegedly begged Paul to allow him to drive mallerie Beach's
00:46:46
family yeah I mean I if if I'm mallerie Beach's father my heart goes out to him first off but I
00:46:55
I'm if I'm in that situation Captain I I'm praying to God every morning when I wake up that I don't lose
00:47:02
my mind and go off and strangle that little bastard because I think the the the problem with it is if they were just
00:47:11
kids that were young and maybe they were having a few drinks but they were trying to drive safely if
00:47:21
it was literally an accident then maybe you could find some way to forgive him or if there was some kind of remorse
00:47:29
coming from Paul but it seemed like again he was belligerent he was drunk he was acting erratic he was possibly on
00:47:40
drugs and he acted like there was no care in the world and on top of that the family acted like well forget Maller
00:47:49
she's dead and gone we got to save everybody else we got to save our son from being becoming the next victim I
00:47:57
want to make sure captain that we note here that it's been reported that the beach family M's family has provided law
00:48:05
enforcement with DNA samples so they have been cooperating with this investigation and the other thing though
00:48:14
that we need to keep in mind is I gave you a list of people but there are several other
00:48:21
families that might want revenge against the murdocks right that have obvious motives for murder and we have not even
00:48:27
got to them yet so you see what happens when you have a lot of power and you're not a good person or persons well then
00:48:33
you create a lot of enemies and sometimes when the Sun goes down and things get dark and quiet those enemies
00:48:40
come a calling this case has so many twists and turns and like I said it it reminds me of boys on the tracks in the
00:48:48
sense of that there's crimes upon crimes upon crimes we have this boating accident that look it's it's murder his
00:48:56
recklessness caused her death now we have this double homicide we don't know who's responsible for it we're giving
00:49:04
you as much facts as we can find but on top of that this is now sparking a lot of rumors a lot of speculation yes and
00:49:14
you see this anytime you have a case that's high-profile in nature but there's not much information people
00:49:20
start to fill in the blanks for you and some of this comes at the local level right and it kind of spills out and it
00:49:27
spreads and now we have some information that you know I got to be frank here it
00:49:32
may or may not be 100% accurate uh so take it with a grain of salt but these are some things
00:49:39
that I found interesting along the way we didn't just we're not just going to report every little tidbit that we find
00:49:46
but the ones that seem to have some credibility to them or some Intrigue to them we're certainly going
00:49:54
to speculate on so one of the rumors that I found online was that Alec when he found the bodies remember there was
00:50:03
that statement that there was a third party who has not been named publicly that was also at the scene now we do
00:50:10
know that Alex says to the emergency Personnel operator hey I've got to call some of my family so there's a chance
00:50:18
that that this third party person arrived after Alec called 911 or there's also a chance that this third party
00:50:27
person was there before Alec even arrived on the scene and one of the rumors points to that stating that when
00:50:35
Alec found the bodies one of the guys living in the caraker house on the property called
00:50:43
Alec this was Rogan Gibson now Rogan's got a brother named Brody so the thought is that one or both brothers were
00:50:53
staying at the caretaker house on the property Rogan called Paul to take a photo of his dog for him his dog was in
00:51:03
the kennel with the Murdoch's other dogs as it had an injured tail the Gibsons were allegedly the new caretakers of
00:51:13
this property so they're taking care of the property and they're living there right there are rumors that at least one
00:51:20
of the Gibson brothers was at the shooting scene with Alec when police arrived all of the police reports have been
00:51:27
heavily redacted so again we cannot confirm if this is true or not right and there's also reports on people arriving
00:51:36
after the shootings right so that's where things get tricky could it have been one of these Gibson brothers or
00:51:42
both that were already on the scene or could it be one of these situations because we have people close to the
00:51:50
investigation that are saying the following that one of Alex's Brothers remember we talked about the two
00:51:57
brothers that went on Good Morning America one of them claims that they arrived 15 minutes after Alec called him
00:52:06
which was after he called 911 and we know that Alec said I have family that I have to call another situation too is
00:52:14
that the other brother says that he arrived on the scene 30 minutes later after his brother
00:52:22
called him so now these guys the brother would be arriving on the scene after Alex called 911 and after law
00:52:31
enforcement presumably are already there on the scene themselves well it seems like Paul's brother has a alibi that he
00:52:38
was in North Carolina at the time right again that's unconfirmed but we don't know what his Alibi is again it seems to
00:52:47
be a situation where his Alibi might be strong should be holding up uh rumor is that he was in Charlotte North Carolina
00:52:53
so he was a a decent distance away at the time of the shooting again you wonder how much of this is orchestrated
00:53:00
and how much is not uh it's a it's a very very confusing and fluid situation here with this case and the boat
00:53:10
accident as far as you know let's call it a boat murder as far as as anything goes on the national level right this
00:53:19
boat accident boat death tragedy would never have really made national news if it wasn't
00:53:27
for the unfortunate double homicide that took place well this is where it gets weird we have so many unanswered
00:53:36
questions from the boat accident the murder and now we have a double homicide and we have even more questions on top
00:53:46
of that there's a lot of questions and one of them being well who was the target you know if this was not a Thrill
00:53:53
Kill if this wasn't a random act of violence well then one or both of these murdocks were the target yeah I lean
00:54:00
towards the idea that Paul was the target obviously he was a part of this accident SL murder however you want to
00:54:08
look at it but it was his actions during that his recklessness the fact that he is doesn't seem to be
00:54:17
remorseful seems like he thinks that he can just walk on water so if he is the Target than I believe than the the
00:54:27
mother is just secondary just to make sure she's not an eyewitness well and that's again that's what gets tricky
00:54:34
right because there's no question here that Paul based off of his General arrogant annoying ass hat Personality
00:54:42
yeah that he would have his fair share of enemies his mother Maggie on the contrary seems to have been generally
00:54:49
liked by everyone one thing that we don't know though is the life insurance policy situation seems to be confusing
00:54:57
I've not been able to find confirmation if there was life insurance money on on either of these two victims it's been
00:55:05
reported by one of the Murdoch family's attorneys that there was not uh life insurance policies on either Maggie or
00:55:13
Paul but again I I hold that into question seeing how secretive the murdocks are with all of their
00:55:19
financials uh to begin with but again here Captain it just really boggles the mind could
00:55:26
could Maggie have been the Target and then Paul's collateral damage or Paul was the target Maggie's collateral
00:55:33
damage or did somebody have it out for the murdocks in general and just was willing to take out the whole family but
00:55:41
we have two that survive because they happen to not be there that night right this family's actions and family members
00:55:48
actions have put other people into grief the Revenge would be hey I want you to fill my pain and shortly after the
00:55:57
murders Alec Murdoch himself offered up $100,000 in reward money for information
00:56:03
leading to the arrest of whoever killed Maggie and Paul as a result of the murders of Maggie and Paul the whole can
00:56:11
of past worms got reopened and now we have three people dead hundreds of questions and we're just getting
00:56:21
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00:56:40
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