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talk some true crime [Music] emergency please help me oh well s SL down slow down we were all shot and hold
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up okay where are you at 121 East Amador L cruus ball yes okay and there there were shots fired yes all of us
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were hurt huh all of us were hurt I think I'm the only one conscious all of you were hurt okay we'll get an
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ambulance rolling please okay what's your name Melissa repass please hurry okay Melissa we've got him dispatched
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did you see who did it no sir they told us all to get down they shot me five times okay we'll get them rolling
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Melissa just hang on take a deep breath that Patrol unit and round how many people are hurt 1 2 3 4 5 6 seven seven
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people are hurt yes I think I seven subjects hurt okay okay Melissa it hurts it hurts
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okay Melissa I've got an ambulance and I've got the police officers in route they'll be with you just shortly okay
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okay you didn't see what any our money you didn't see what any kind of the men were wearing or anything no
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nothing huh they just walked in mhm do you know if they were black men white men one black men they're both black two
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black men yeah okay no they've left two black male sorry okay okay it's okay Melissa
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there's a fire too there's a fire right on the yes they're going to burn us up are the men still there I don't know you
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don't know I don't know they put us in the office they put you in the office yes I need a fire engine too please help
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me 10 to okay Melissa she said they locked them in the office she doesn't know if they're still there or not the
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door is open there's a fire it's on Amador yeah please can you smell smoke Melissa
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yes I can see it okay can I get the fire exting fire department too yes says she
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smells smoke they may have L the building on fire no it is on fire it is on fire it is okay
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Melissa can I go get by utility one oh okay Melissa we've got him coming hun we've got them coming is somebody
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call my mommy okay Melissa there's a police officer there now okay there is yes there he is he's going to try and
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find you we in the office just tell I have 33 traffic [Applause] God okay I know hold on Melissa we've got
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the ambulance coming they're just down the street huh she advises all seven are shot they're injured they're in the
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office where's the office at Mel in the door desk and then you take a right and we're right in the build okay she says
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you go in to the first desk take a right and they're right there at the office okay I'm giving the directions on how to
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get to you to the police officers that are there oh my God please help me they're helping you Melissa we've got
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them rolling okay you got to be brave got to be strong now okay oh God it's going to burn us right now okay can you
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see Flames yeah okay it's burning okay oh I got bullets in my feet okay the b in my head you B the B
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in your head too I can't my I'm still here go ahead I hear the officers telling you to get out get out
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I can't there's nobody [Applause] else was that the police offic to get out then get out okay
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[Music] we have been doing this for a long time now captain and we have played and
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reviewed many 911 calls on this little garage show of ours and that my friend is one of the more disturbing ones I
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have heard on this show or really anywhere yeah what you just heard was a 911 call that came in at 8:33 a.m. on
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the morning of February 10th 1990 the caller is 12-year-old Melissa repass whose bravery and quick thinking despite
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having been shot several times called 911 and without doubt prevented further loss of life in a case that would later
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be dubbed the Los cruus bowling alley Massacre Los cruus is the second largest city in the Great state of New Mexico
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Albuquerque is the largest shout out to my old friend Jose Salazar Las Cruses today is pretty big
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with a population of over 100,000 people our case is 30 years old and this case is going back to 1990 and unfortunately
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all of this time has passed and yet this case remains unsolved it looks like the population
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was right around 57,000 back in 1990 so the city has almost doubled in size since the day in question Los cruus is
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home to New Mexico State University and it's located just 41 miles north of the Mexican border at Sunland Park anytime
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you get this close to the Border Captain this could play a part in the bigger picture here if someone did something
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terrible and wanted to flee well one would not have to go too far I mean you could enter the Los cruus bowl at 8:00
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a.m. or so Rob kill steal thousands of dollars leave by 8:30ish and with the right amount of
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horses you're in line to cross the Good Old Mexico line at 9:00 a.m. but the other thing we should point out is Los
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cruus was safe in 1989 for the entire year the city of Los cruus only had two homicides 1990 would be an entirely
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different situation let's go through the known details of this case on the morning of Saturday February
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10th 1990 34-year-old Stephanie cak was scheduled to open the bowling alley for the day a couple of quick things to note
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here captain that will be of particular interest it's a Saturday morning after what is regularly a very busy and
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profitable Friday night at the bowling alley yeah a lot of bowling alleys have their leagues on Friday nights Stephanie
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cak is the day manager at the bowling alley but she is also the daughter of the bowling alley's owner Ronald
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cak it's my understanding that Ron started up Las Cruz's Bowl in 1984 so the bowling alley at this time in our
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case timeline has been open for 6 years and is operating with a good deal of success Stephanie brought to work with
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her that morning her 12-year-old daughter Melissa repass and Melissa's 13-year-old friend
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Amy Hower the two were planning to run the bowling alley's daycare for the day now
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it's unclear what time the three of them you know manager Stephanie cak and the two girls arrived but we do know they
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were the first to arrive at the bowling alley for the day mhm The Next To Arrive
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would be employee Ida po game Saturday is typically a busy day for most bowling alleys but on this day at Las Cruz's
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bowl there were some events scheduled for this day and they were expected to be quite busy starting at 10:00 a.m.
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when they have a youth league starting up action and then they were also anticipating a busy lunch hour Ida was
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in charge of the kitchen that morning this would mean arriving early before the doors open to prep food so they can
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keep up once they start to get busy at 10:00 a.m. yeah there's nothing better than some hot
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nachos with that bowling ball grease mixed in the only place that I drink pictures of beer the bowling alley I
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don't know what it is I will never get past a great pitcher of beer at the bowling alley everything we just talked
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about started before 8:00 a.m. that morning and we know this for good reason because just before 4 8 a.m. another
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bowling alley employee will arrive on the scene this is Steve CAC so you can tell by the last name CAC that Steve is
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Stephanie's brother also son of the owner and Uncle to Stephanie's daughter Melissa Steve is not scheduled to work
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on this day it sounds like he worked there the busy Friday night before he was actually in route to go to class
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that morning but he left his backpack there the previous night very simply he was going to swing by the bowling alley
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retrieve his backpack and then be on his way yeah I'm guessing he went to the university this is to be a very quick
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In-N-Out for Steve right so Steve said that when he arrived he went through the building's main door the only thing that
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seems to be strange to him is when he arrived he found that the door was unlocked he says he went and he grabbed
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his book bag in the office he saw his sister his niece and his niece's friend he told his sister that the door was
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unlocked and advised her to lock the door hey you got to lock the door we're not open yet he then left later of
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course he would be asked if he locked the door when he left he says he did not I don't know if this was because he was
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in a hurry or maybe he didn't have his keys with him yeah or maybe he was trying to prove a point to his sister
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hey when you open up the bowling alley you need to keep the doors locked that's your responsibility all the reports that
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we have they have Steve leaving the facility around sometime after 8:00 a.m. some State just after 8 and others as
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late as 8:15 the thing here is all reports are in this time frame and only vary by a
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matter of just a few minutes so we have employee Ida working in the kitchen and manager Stephanie doing the books in the
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office and after Steve leaves the two girls they leave the office and they go to the front of the building to get
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something from the vending machines it is at this time that the two girls see two men enter through the
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unlocked door one of the men went into the kitchen Ida says she was busy working not aware that someone else had
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entered the kitchen she started to chop up some lettuce when she felt something shoved into her side she looked down and
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it was a gun the unidentified man had a 22 caliber pistol and ordered her into the bowling alley's office the two
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gunmen walked Ida and the two girls into the office where they confronted Stephanie the gunmen ordered the women
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and children to lie down face down in a corner of the office the four all all have been corraled all fac down in this
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corner of the office while the gunmen were taking approximately $4,000 to $5,000 from the bowling alley safe this
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after asking where the safe was and we should note Stephanie is the only one with access to the safe right
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now there are some conflicting reports Captain as there always are in these matters but most reports stated that the
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younger gunman and note judging by appearance there seems to be a considerable age discrepancy between our
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two offenders this will later cause the one unidentified gunman to be labeled and referred to as the younger gunman or
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the younger as salant and the older gunman or the older as salant so most reports state that the younger gunman
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moved the money from the safe to a briefcase the briefcase was brought to the scene by the
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perpetrators there are a couple of reports that one or both of the younger girls was ordered by one of the
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offenders to load the briefcase with cash from the safe yeah this is very similar to like a bank robbery but
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normally in a bank robbery you have somebody go up to a teller they slide a note saying give me all the money right
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they normally don't go to the safe you even see this with like Point Break and and movies like the town where they're
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like don't go to the safe it's it's too risky mhm well yes this is a business and yes they only have one safe and
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there's not that many employees but this is a large location that these two individuals have to basically uh control
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and contain so this is like a bank takeover the lanes itself there were 32 Lanes plus a kitchen an office I mean
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picturing this I believe there were pool tables dart boards so this is a large building but at this time because the
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the building is not open to the public because they're closed they're getting ready to open there's very few people in
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this large space and usually with businesses you kind of have to go to the safe where the in a bank you see that
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sometimes they don't want to go to the Vault right but in a business you want to go to the safe because a lot of times
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these businesses are trying not to keep a lot of cash on hand or cash in the register itself in case there is some
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type of robbery or if you close up somebody breaks in then they have to break into the safe which is usually
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very difficult to do to get to the actual big stash of cash but again with this business I mean this is a bowling
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alley this is not it's it's not like a lot of people have worked in a bowling alley if I if I told you well I'm going
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to go rob a restaurant or something a lot of people have worked in the restaurant they kind of understand how
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it works so and what what I'm getting at is that these two individuals had to know a lot about who worked there if
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there was security what time people were arriving how they arrived what exits there were well and regardless of who
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loaded the cash into the briefcase I did bring that up because I think we'll swirl back into that a little bit later
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but either way soon after all of this commotion in the office another bowling alley employee this is 26-year-old Steve
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teron he's the bowling alley's mechanic he walks into the bowling alley with him
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is his two daughters 2-year-old Valerie Terron and six-year-old Paula hogen no relation to Ida the two little kids they
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were going to spend the day at the bowling alley's daycare while Steve worked his shift not seeing anyone in
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the alley Steve and the two girls entered the office and unfortunately stumbled onto the robbery and
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progress the three of them were ordered just like the previous four down to the floor and to put their heads down the
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gunman then shot all seven victims multiple times at Point Blank Range then the offenders gathered a bunch of
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papers from around the office scattering them about the desk and the floor and ignited the papers setting the office on
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fire before fleeing the scene the bowling alley fire was reported at 8:33 a.m. so let's examine the time
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frame of everything going on here real quick before we get too far along a lot of things start to go into motion around
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8:00 a.m. this is when Steve cak arrives to get his backpack and leaves without locking the door sometime between a few
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minutes after 8 and 8:15 per the reports so during a very short time frame as little as 17 minutes to maybe 29 minutes
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at the very very most and I think Captain this all went down closer to the 17-minute range I would
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let's call it 20 or so minutes two guys enter the bowling alley take four persons hostage from three different
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locations inside the bowling alley they robbed the joint reports state that the men searched through filing cabinets or
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desk drawers or both stole money from the safe and the register if there was money in the register yet and what time
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was the bowling alley supposed to open 9:00 a.m. okay so that to me like I said it's the knowled know of the business
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who works there the exits what time they have to have this all done so there's not the public involved and this was
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very quick we'll get to the money we're going to shoot any eyewitnesses and then
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we're going to set the place on fire which one get rid of the witnesses as well but also will get rid of any
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evidence fingerprints anything that they might have messed up fire destroys all that right and not only did they shoot
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all seven victims they managed to control all four and then on top of that intercepted three more victims
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controlled them before shooting all seven and reports stated 25 shots in total were fired then the two gunmen set
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the office on fire and fled the scene all in a very short amount of time [Music]
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[Music] all right we're back cheers to you Captain cheers to all the Pirates the
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911 call heard in today's trailer the the call came in from our little hero this is 12-year-old Melissa repass who
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has been shot multiple times five times this in the hands and the head the hands
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likely as the result of trying to Shield herself the call comes in at precisely 8:33 a.m. James hash is the man working
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dispatch that took the call that day the call lasted a total of 4 minutes and 2 seconds and you can hear here on the
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call that an officer or officers arrived on the scene before the end of the call
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so a good response time by our Police Department of under 4 minutes and by 8:37 a.m. a nightmare that started just
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25 or so minutes earlier now we have police fire rescue and Emergency Medical Services dispatched and some of them are
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starting to arrive at 1201 East Amador Avenue the Lac cruus bull First Responders were walking into
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hell responding to a dire situation of a robbery a mass shooting and a fire yeah
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execution of seven people officers responding to the call arrived and they found a smoldering fire in the bowling
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alley office with a lot of smoke now at home we have detective Chuck Franco he gets a call from his sergeant
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saying there has been a major crime several people are dead we need you here right away down at the crime scene his
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boss didn't go into specifics simply saying there was a major crime and we need you here now he wouldn't say
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anything else detective Franco could hear and feel the severity of the situation just from the brief call but
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also the serious tone of his Sergeant on the call but when the seasoned detective
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arrived at the scene he had no idea what he was walking into this would be one of
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the most horrific crimes in the history of Los cruus Amy Hower Paula hogin and Steven teron were pronounced dead at the
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scene valer Tron was rushed to the hospital but declared Dead on Arrival the survivors were rushed to the
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hospital the dead were left in place in the building for Crime Lab personnel which arrived on the scene around noon
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the dead were removed from the building at 400 p.m. we have Dead adults but we have dead children as well mhm I mean
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that's just makes it worse the yes it's a special kind of evil it's a certain kind of evil that thankfully does not
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exist in very many people walking on this planet that took out just some regular good people on that very sad day
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well it seems these perpetrators it seems almost like their actions are very militant you know we're going to go
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in there we're not going to be in there long we're going right towards the money
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we're going to take all the eyewitnesses we're going to put them all in one location we're going to cover our
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surroundings we have new eyewitnesses that come into play we put them into the office now we're containing the
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situation we're going to shoot all of them I think all that was premeditated once we get them into the office there
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we've seen takeovers before we've seen robbery's gone bad we've seen all these things before and a lot of times even if
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there's violent violence towards the people that they kidnapped or took hostage or however you want to phrase it
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there there's sometimes discussion like in the Hi-Fi murders there's almost like
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a discussion of what do we do with these individuals in this case it doesn't seem
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like that at all seems like no uh step one go into the building step two two take all the hostages and put them into
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the office step three get all the money step four shoot all the hostages step five light the place on fire and then
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take off you're right you're absolutely right it really looks like the two of these gunmen had agreed upon everything
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that they set out to do that morning before arriving inside the walls of the bowling alley this is actually a better
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case study of what we did what a month or so ago when we covered the high-f five murders that's labeled as an
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indiscriminate homicide robbery case study the problem with that is once there some of the offenders decided to
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torture the hostages that's not part of that whole bit it's only a part of that story of that case here it's even more
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precise even more just straight up coldblooded we have a mission to carry out and let's
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let's go for it here's what we're going to do a b c d and e and then we're out of there this is a very perfect case
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study for indiscriminate homicide robbery just meaning that no matter who is in there they are going to be taken
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out because we don't want any eyewitnesses afterward the early reports were that
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four are dead three are wounded police would not comment on the identities of the survivors but did say that the
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survivors were believed to be in critical condition detectives were hoping to get some good information from
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them well and hold on I I think one of the reasons that they did that is like I said again the knowledge that these
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individuals would have to know to carry out these crimes so precisely they would
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possibly know some of these individuals the individuals might not know them but that the perpetrators would know those
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individuals if that makes any sense at all well even if they don't they know that they're in the hospital right so
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it's the same situation as the Hi-Fi murders where we have some survivors thankfully we have some survivors who
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might be able to identify these guys by description at least or give clues or leads to the detectives and they're not
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going to say who these people are they don't want to make it they don't want to make it any easier for you to locate
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them in the hospital and we very likely have officers set up for security purposes to make sure that these two
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gunmen don't come back and try to finish the job after they learned that they were unsuccessful in killing all all of
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the witnesses cuz we know that that was their goal right police set up 10 roadblocks in and out of the city
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stopping every vehicle and asking the driver and passengers questions we know we are looking for two men we are
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looking for two guns who got away with about $4 to $5,000 that's the simplest form of what
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we are looking for police set into motion a massive Manhunt for The Killers immediately this included but was not
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limited to the following Los cruus City police State Police the counties Sheriff's Department University Police
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US Customs the Border Patrol and the federal drug enforcement agency six aircraft and helicopters were used this
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including a US Customs Blackhawk helicopter but the suspects successfully eluded capture right but we okay but we
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have no eyewitnesses outside of the bowling alley so we don't know what these individuals were traveling in well
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let's get to to leads and suspects here and see what we do have because we do have some leads on the suspects and some
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fairly good ones I guess first remember Steve CAC who left the bowling alley right before this Robbery Homicide went
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down right he says during his quick stop that he saw two guys and given the very
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short time frame we are working with these two guys might be the perpetrators he says he saw two guys one older than
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the other both he believed could be Hispanic he saw the men come from from around the back of the building to the
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side of the building one guy gave the other what appeared to be a briefcase I believe Steve said it was the younger
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suspect that then kind of kneeled down and looked at Steve Steve told the investigators about
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this and provided a description this very shortly after the case broke now two other Witnesses a man
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working outside said he saw men matching ing this description given to police by
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Steve that he saw the two men running from the bowling alley parking lot another individual working nearby said
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they heard the gunshots but saw nothing based off of what Steve saw and what he reported to police as well as the other
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eyewitness that we just discussed here is the descriptions of the perpetrators that was released to the newspapers one
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man is described as Spanish with a dark complexion approximately 29 or 30 years of age 5' 10 in in height and weighing
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170 lb the suspect possibly had a 6 to 8 in blue steel revolver in his possession
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he was last seen traveling in a Westerly direction from the intersection of espia
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and Amador Avenue the second suspect is described as a Hispanic male 5' 6 in in height weighing 135 240 lb with a medium
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build and dark complexion he has black hair comb back and brown eyes approximately 45 to 50 years of age so a
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discrepancy of 15 to maybe 20 or more years between the two perpetrators yeah and we do end up with a vague vehicle
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description and we also end up with sketches as well yes yeah we we'll get to that part of it because the first
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descriptions that come out of our suspects are these computer generated I don't know if that's the right term
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computer generated images but they're computer images that are put together and released we do end up with vague a
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vague vehicle description in the papers anyway it says the suspects may have been driving a
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green older model utility van or truck or pickup and some descriptions of this state that it was a
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4wheel drive vehicle that to me Captain for vehicle description is about as vague as it can
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get when it says older model utility van or truck or pickup it's kind of like we
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don't really know yeah but this is also in a time where there was less vehicles on the road like that anyone whether
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you're familiar with this case or not is will be familiar with the sketches that
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the captain was talking about the suspect sketches that come out this actually comes out 5 days into the
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investigation and the way that this comes about is these are not technically different it's not different
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descriptions of the two suspects it's just a better composite drawing of the two suspects right what we have at first
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is the old system would be you sit down you tell the detectives you tell somebody what you saw and they go okay
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well point to which nose perpetrator A's nose looks like and okay so maybe it's nose C10 on their
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nose category and then somebody punches that into a computer and after you go through each of the features of the face
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and the body then it will it will the computer will put all those together and now you have an image of what this
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person looks like based off of what your eyewitness says each of the features look like once put together the pictures
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that were released to the paper to be honest with you Captain it it was hard for me to discern exactly
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what I was looking at with those old pictures now what we have here is we have Steve scac who says
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I sat down with somebody else and they actually did a handrawn sketch of what I was telling
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them and when they turned over the page and showed me I said wow that looks exactly like the two guys that I saw so
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days into this we have a physical somebody sitting down and having an actual sketch drawn of the two suspects
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we have our number one witness who says it looks just like the two guys that he saw that day that will then become what
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I would refer to in this case as the famous composite drawings for the Lac cruus bow case it's the one that even if
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you don't know this case very well but you're kind of dialed into True Crime and you're dialed into to Crime you have
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seen these composite sketches before you've seen them somewhere even if you weren't looking in to this case well
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yeah cuz if you're looking at the one sketches the first thing you think is oh crap Eddie Murphy did this several
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people have said that one of the one of the persons in the composite has a resemblance to Eddie Murphy yeah like
00:36:39
coming to America Eddie Murphy I don't I look at Eddie Murphy and I don't see a man that has aged more
00:36:48
than a few days in physically over decades we're talking decades Eddie Murphy still looks very
00:36:55
young to me well I was talking about the thickness of the mustache and the thickness of his hair reminds me more of
00:37:04
coming to America than it does like Beverly Hills Cop or yeah Beverly Hills Cop good or like Dr
00:37:11
dittle what I meant Captain by famous composite sketches is that when researching other
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cases these composits pop up on the internet if you go and you try to look up another case and you you're looking
00:37:27
up for suspect composite drawings in that case there's a good chance that on your image panel there this image will
00:37:35
be in that row and that's why when we started really looking into this case a few months ago I thought it was kind of
00:37:44
Haunting for me to see the composite sketch of the two suspects because I'm like I've seen that several times before
00:37:52
now I have the case to connect it to and who would have thought that the Donkey from Shrek would be capable of murderers
00:37:59
this heinous the one thing that's interesting to me about the uh vehicle description the vague vehicle
00:38:06
description yeah this is 30 years ago this is a 30y old case what we have seen with the the composite sketches of the
00:38:18
suspects that has been sent out and plastered everywhere over the following three decades after this case broke
00:38:27
we've also even seen age progression sketches based off of those original sketches from
00:38:33
1990 what is left out of the future suspect information is this vehicle description what that what I'm kind of
00:38:43
inferring from that is that maybe at some point the detectives believe that including this very vague vehicle
00:38:52
description might be hurting that information more than it's helping so I think it's purposely left out
00:38:59
because I think that they go this might not have anything to do with our case at
00:39:05
all what we end up happening have happening is that we have Steve CAC who is called by police and brought down to
00:39:14
the Border because they pull over four guys who were stopped in a vehicle and they have a large sum of cash with them
00:39:23
they want to know if Steve believes that any of these guys were the gunmen for that he saw lcu's Bowl right he says he
00:39:31
cannot identify any of the four men as being one or both of the two men that he saw that day well it makes sense though
00:39:39
hey we're going to send two people in we got two people in the vehicle and maybe
00:39:44
the idea was to hit multiple places and they just never did well and necessarily
00:39:49
the other two guys don't always have to know what the other two guys were up to earlier that day right or the previous
00:39:56
day regardless what's important here is Steve says those the people you're showing me are not the two people that I
00:40:03
saw uh at lcu's Bowl before the murders now there is one very bizarre incident this all the while police are securing
00:40:13
the bowling alley murder crime scene setting up and executing roadblocks questioning and searching the area and
00:40:21
conducting what very quickly became a massive Manhunt this is on the same day as is
00:40:27
the lcu's bull massacre around 2:30 in the afternoon police found a man wandering around the
00:40:36
streets he was the victim of a stabbing that took place shortly before they found him it's thought that the man who
00:40:43
is only identified as a male in his 30s identified the person who stabbed him and maybe even identified the as salent
00:40:51
by name and now police are looking for that guy too the attacker was described in the paper as a male 20 to 30 years
00:41:01
old 5'8 to 5' 11 in tall the stab victim was taken to the hospital to be treated
00:41:08
for his wounds unfortunately that man died while undergoing surgery the police have stated that this crime has nothing
00:41:17
to do with the Lac cruus bowling alley Massacre and I fully believe them 100% because could you IM imagine a better
00:41:28
break for police right in this very difficult situation where you are very quickly executing a massive State and
00:41:37
even at the border Manhunt for two mass murders that you don't have a solid ID for or solidication of the vehicle
00:41:50
either what a better break that one of them decides to stab the other one and now you got one in in a hospital bed and
00:41:55
you're out looking for the other one and and he's been identified by the person that he stabbed yeah it's kind of like
00:42:03
scream at the end where he you know he has to stab his partner so they can cover up the murders yeah so those two
00:42:12
things to deep have nothing to do with one another but remember we stated earlier that lausus the whole city for
00:42:21
the entire year of 1989 only had two homicides on this single day in 1990 they have a situation where two
00:42:31
separate incidents ended up in homicides and the one unfortunately was multiple homicides four people were killed in a
00:42:41
press conference that evening the police chief apologized to the room full of reporters this for not having much
00:42:51
information to pass along to them this poor man told the room he was sorry but it has been a very hectic day well like
00:43:01
you said with such a safe area the whole department and the community has to feel
00:43:08
somewhat defeated yes 100% I mean we have the police chief who feels defeated some other feedback some other thoughts
00:43:18
going on at the time we have a statement from Captain Fred Rubio he said the following he said we're looking at the
00:43:25
motive as robbery were looking at the motive that for some reason or other they decided to rid themselves of any
00:43:33
Witnesses and we also have a local business owner that was interviewed by the papers who offered up some
00:43:41
speculation saying that he thought that the persons responsible studied it I'm guessing meaning the business in the
00:43:49
building and planned it the robbery especially because Friday night after all of the leagues and everything and
00:43:57
the business that's one of their busiest nights meaning they would make off with
00:44:01
a pretty good take on Saturday morning the case was also featured on everyone's favorite old show Unsolved
00:44:09
Mysteries and aired in April of 1990 on season 2 episode 19 it was one of four stories some may remember it it was the
00:44:21
Bobby Kennedy episode well and also we're thinking that they got roughly around 4,000
00:44:27
$4 to $5,000 is what has been reported so that'd be roughly $8,000 to $110,000 in today's money so we're not talking
00:44:36
about like this could get you out of trouble if maybe you owe somebody drug money
00:44:43
maybe you owe some some bad gambling debts or whatever right but this is not money that's going to set you up for the
00:44:53
rest of your life right right 100% it's not life changing money unless you're in
00:44:58
some serious hot water with somebody yeah unless it's getting hot in the hot tub on in the H on Unsolved Mysteries
00:45:08
the lasu's bowl murders segment was titled no one spared it was a short part of the episode and the story was the
00:45:16
only one that fell under the wanted category that's kind of a shitty pun don't you think what's that no one
00:45:24
spared well that's the thing cuz you got strikes and Spares that's the thing with
00:45:29
Unsolved Mysteries that I that I like to try to uh point out when we do reference
00:45:36
it because a lot of times we we don't get any information like um the the cases are never called what the victim's
00:45:45
names would be or what the case goes on to be known as you know we covered boys on the tracks which generally that case
00:45:53
of the of those two teenage boys is known as boys on the tracks that case I believe was called friends till the end
00:46:01
or something like that right and this one was called no one no one spared and you're right it absolutely is kind of a
00:46:07
bad pun there um but it's also that was the intention of the two gunmen was to get rid of all seven of these people or
00:46:18
what what's terrifying is it didn't matter to them how many people were there at all if it was one they were
00:46:25
going to attempt to kill one person if it was 7 10 12 whatever it was going to be they were going to attempt to kill
00:46:32
that many people it was only about a 4 minute piece but one thing that I think is
00:46:38
really kind of cool that that we should give a big kudos to Unsolved Mysteries for you got to keep in mind that they're
00:46:46
recording and producing all of these episodes in advance of them being released right this case took place in
00:46:54
February February 10th of 19 90 it was in April that they aired the their coverage of the Los cruus
00:47:04
bowling alley murders and it was really just the wanted segment flashing those composite sketches of the two suspects
00:47:12
and asking the public for help think about the turnaround on that it's two months turnaround really that's them
00:47:19
stepping in some people would look at that and say they only did four minutes on this big case mhm that's them
00:47:25
stepping in and saying after the fact providing some kind of help any help that they could well and
00:47:33
it's tough sometimes when these cases come out and they start getting some legs on them in in the social media
00:47:40
world and people say cover them and you go well there's not a lot of information
00:47:44
out there and maybe we don't have a source that we can get information that's not out in the media yet like
00:47:51
we've had well like we've been able to do in many cases mhm but some of the cases when it's it's a missing person or
00:47:58
it's a murder of a child you just put out the episode the best you can and hopes that it gets people talking and
00:48:07
leads to some results the interesting thing that I found here Captain was I went back and I was looking okay well
00:48:14
what was going on on the local scene right around the time of the Unsolved Mysteries episode that featured this
00:48:22
case and what I found was we have police chief well then police Chief Ron Axel um he says
00:48:31
publicly that 312 potential suspects had been questioned by that point so about 2
00:48:38
months later that's a lot of potential suspects that they have spoke to by this point and it does look like the unsolved
00:48:46
mystery spotlighting the case did generate some leads but those don't seem to have really have gone
00:48:53
anywhere the piece did Inspire future filmmaker Charlie Min to make a fulllength documentary film called a
00:49:02
nightmare in Los crues the documentary was released around the 20th anniversary of the massacre so in 2010 it came out
00:49:11
and it features actual crime scene video pictures and interviews with family members since its release more tips have
00:49:20
been reported to the local police and this film really got a lot of folks talking
00:49:27
not just talking about potential leads or potential suspects but it got people that were very close to the crime the
00:49:34
victims themselves to get out and talk you know sometimes it takes the passing of time for people to not be afraid or
00:49:44
to have some time to grieve for their lost loved ones before they can come out and speak to what they know about the
00:49:53
case or their feelings on a tragedy such as this [Music] a lot more to dive into tomorrow and
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until then be good be kind and don't litter [Music] [Applause] [Music]