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[Music] [Music] at of September 27th 1996 joint arraignment for all three suspects we have the Three Stooges
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standing there Shackled together facing the judge Nicholas aklan and Corey Johnson looked somber but the media
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captured a photo of Joey Wilson smiling and seeming Carefree I guess he was too dumb to
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recognize how much trouble he was in the judge found that there was ample evidence for trial and a grand jury
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indicted the three on four counts of murder and two counts of attempted murder first we have Joseph Joey Wilson
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AKA Doughboy he was tried first the prosecutor's office stated we wanted to try Wilson first because he is
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the one that caused it he is the one who led it and it's his show Wilson was also
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the one who was accused of stealing Lamar's cell phone in other words he's the instigator since he was only 19 at
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the time of the murders Wilson petition for youthful offender status so he would
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be tried as a juvenile guess what no dice the judge ruled that the allegations were too serious and Wilson
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needed to wear his big boy pants be charged as an adult he pled not guilty to the charges on
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October 23rd in Wilson's August 1998 trial prosecutors termed him the ring leader in the brutal crime they
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introduced testimony about Wilson bragging that the other two guys were quote his crew and so on there were a
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bunch of people that testified obviously at this trial but we'll go through some
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of the more important key figures here Dr Ken Warner the state medic medical examiner testified that the victims all
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died from gunshot wounds Brian Carter had been shot seven times with a Ruger P89 Wilson had been he's the one that
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had been holding that gun all of that night the night of the shootings Johnny couch had been shot twice in the head
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with a different gun 9mm Michael bodette had been shot from above as he sat on a
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mattress the bullet traveled from the left side of his head and lodged into his right jaw he was also was shot in
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the leg and finally Lamar hemp Hill was shot once in the head Brent wheeler of the Alabama Department of forensic
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Services testified that 13 of the cartridges were fired from one of the loron pistols and the remaining six
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cartridges were fired from the Ruger Michelle Hayden testified about who held what gun that night this is important to
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the to the case here who was doing what at the scene she talked about Wilson shooting her and shooting the other
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victims because you can't have a situation where they're all a rain together they're all going to be tried
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separately and you don't want this Doughboy to be sitting there in court just blaming the other two people that
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were with him that night and as the prosecutors told us we believe he's the ring leader he's the instigator he's the
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one who caused all this it's his show you're trying him first to set the bar for the other two trials and to set up
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some of the facts that are agreed upon of that horrible night I know the details matter but I I feel not with
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just the loss of life but the torturing the sexual assault and then the other injured victims it's simple
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life for all we get all of the survivors that testify in court we get a bunch of
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the First Responders the offic are testifying one little additional piece of evidence here is Wilson thanks to his
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own narcissism at his trial at this trial one of Wilson's friends his name is David newbie testified that Wilson
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called him from jail after the shooting talking about what happened that night so he's bragging to his friend over a
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jailhouse phone this guy this guy's got two brain cells left in they're fighting
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each other new testified at Wilson's trial that he was told by Wilson to quote finish the job meaning which which
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he says he took to mean he wants me to go kill the surviving Witnesses of course this man doesn't do it he tells
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police about this and testifies against Wilson at court so he's in prison telling him hey the two surviving people
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I want you to go kill and he just thinks that this guy is going to just do it cuz
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they're a part of my crew yeah he thought he was something that he clearly wasn't he told this guy go
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finish the job this guy's testifying this guy's testifying I took that to mean go kill the witnesses right finally
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one of Wilson's cellmates who spent three months in a cell with him testified that Wilson bragged about his
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involvement that night you know and this is just horrible stuff saying you know I
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blasted this one blasted that one I mean he just really was bragging about this the defense called No Witnesses that's
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that's not a good feeling when you are sitting there the defendant and your defense team's like yeah we we got
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nobody we got nobody to to say something good about you on Cross they tried to push their Theory so their Theory as I
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had mentioned earlier their theory was exactly that they were going to try to push more blame onto one of the other
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suspects than their client yeah all right so they're claiming that Nick anlan had been the one that shot all the
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victims this seems a little stupid to me though that we're going to try to put blame on people when we do have
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eyewitness accounts and then we obviously have multiple guns used and then we we we can fingerprint those guns
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and so we know that not just one of the killers used all of the guns to kill all
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the victims oh yeah this I mean this is a defense for when your client has no true defense you you build a story and
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try to steer the narrative in a way that could confuse the jury or jurors into thinking that while we know the outcome
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and while we know everybody that was there that night oh we got all these different stories and things and it gets
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all convoluted it comes down to we know who did it we know the three people were
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responsible but who's mostly responsible and who is responsible to somewhat of a
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lesser degree well these [ __ ] turds were trying to sell a [ __ ] sandwich at closing
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arguments the prosecutor said that uh quote this has been described as a murder over a cell phone and when you
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listen to the evidence probably the saddest thing was that that it was less than that it wasn't even a murder over a
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cell phone I think it was a Mindless murder over some kind of distorted image of tough guy stuff after the prosecutor
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gave his closing argument the defense lawyer delivered his closing arguments saying initially that there was not
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enough evidence against his client to support the finding of capital murder the other prosecutor his name is Ken
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Taylor said in rebuttal quote remember the horrible night and particularly the horrible 10 or 15 seconds that these
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three young people that lived went through ladies and gentlemen I submit to you that there are veterans of War who
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have spent a full year in a combat theater and not seen the Carnage the slaughter the coldblooded killing that
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these young people have seen to traumatize them for the rest of their lives Joey Wilson killed these people as
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sure as he put the gun to everybody's head and pulled the trigger end quote it only took the jury 3 hours to convict
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Wilson during the penalty phase of the trial the jury had to decide whether to give Wilson the death penalty or
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not and the prosecution was pushing for it big time so we believe that his crime
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would warrant the death penalty but at the trial we're going to have people that will speak for the victims and
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speak for this murderer yeah and in Alabama to be eligible for the death penalty for that to be the appropriate
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sentence what is stated is that the the murder or murders are to be deemed heinous
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extremely Wicked atrocious and shockingly evil and the sheriff testifies that in
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his opinion that's exactly what these murders were the defense calls Joey Wilson's
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father Robert to the stand who cried and begged the jury for mercy on his son and
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then we get Joey Wilson himself called to the stand to speak on his own behalf he admitted that he cut off Johnny
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Couch's ponytail and stomped on his chest and then he said quote I shot Brian Carter I want to say I'm sorry to
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Mr and Mrs Carter for what I did to your son I hope you will forgive me I want to
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say to the other families that I didn't give any orders to kill any of your family members end quote when asked why
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he shot Brian he said I don't know he had no explanation for his actions no justification and no real remorse his
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attorney tried to tell the jury that that Nick had Nick aklan not started shooting they would not be in
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this courtroom he pointed out that Wilson apologized to the families and asked the jury to give Joey Wilson a LIF
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line so there was no more loss of life meaning give him a sentence of life in prison but only after one hour the jury
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sentenced him to death the vote was unanimous judge fry pronounced at the end of
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sentencing quote by any standard acceptable civilized society this crime was extremely wicked and shockingly evil
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the defendant was unnecessarily torturous in the commission of these crimes while the court recognizes that
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all capital offenses are heinous atrocious and cruel to some extent the degree of heinousness atrociousness and
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cruelty which characterizes this offense exceeds that which is common to all capital offenses it is the Judgment of
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this court that you be punished by death and quote but this is a true sign of a monster to me
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because like you were saying when when he gets up and addresses the families everybody in the courtroom is saying
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there's no sign of remorse but that's because there is none inside of him and somebody that can't show remorse because
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there's none inside of them they have no soul they have they're they're just pure
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evil and the only reason why he probably spoke at all is maybe this will save myself or maybe he doesn't even care to
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save himself but maybe he did it to save Fates with his family or something so the state had proven Beyond reasonal
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doubt that Joey Wilson shot and killed Brian Carter the three surviving Witnesses all testified that Corey
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Johnson didn't fire his gun that meant that all the other victims were shot by Nicholas aklan aklan was tried before a
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jury on the charges that he intentionally murdered Charles Lamar Hempel Michael bodet Johnny couch and Brian Carter
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pursuant to one scheme or course of conduct and that he attempted to murder Ashley Rutherford and Michelle Hayden at
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trial the evidence against akan was overwhelming the three survivors I witnesses to the shootings testified
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that they saw aklan shoot first he first shot Ashley Rutherford in the head and then moved to the other victims shooting
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them one by one as Joey Wilson also began shooting at the victims the guns used all of the guns used to kill the
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four murder victims were found in his home in his residence there was some push back and argument
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over the search was it legal later his girlfriend's going to say I didn't consent to a search one of the searches
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she signed a paperwork and she said well I didn't know what I was signing it's a little too late after
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you sign there's this thing called reading you asked to see the document can you imagine how bad of a person this
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is to hear what happened to to know the brutality and also just the also the pain of the surviving victims to know
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all that and then to do anything to defend him because when you initially hear the story and they go hey uh does
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he have guns can we see them and and and she tells the cops go ahead and now you're recanting that and so now you're
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defending this monster after you know what he did she did the right thing when she didn't know what he
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did and now that she knows how bad of what he did she then defends it I mean you're a scumbag the prosecutor Ken
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Taylor told the jury that Nicholas anlan was quote the worst killing Ma Mach ever
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in Madison County if Joey Wilson was the ring leader Nick aklan was the enforcer
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end quote here again Captain the defense calls zero Witnesses other than the argument about the illegal search the
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defense really had nothing going for them and remember a lot of the facts about the case were already
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predetermined prior to this trial because we've already had one murder trial the jury found akan guilty in the
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penalty phase anlan introduced his parents his aunt his grandmother a retired police officer an employee at a
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Youth Organization and two Reverend to testify on his behalf his father was also a reverent and testified that his
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son had been raised in a loving and supportive home specifically he testified that he asked where did I go
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wrong Nicholas was raised in a God-fearing home I took him to church he sang in the youth choir he was an usher
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he was a good kid Nick and I had a good relationship I went to his parent teacher conferences I took him to the
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dentist that's a relationship I wanted with my son because I was denied that relationship with my father nonetheless
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ecklund's defense claimed that his childhood had been troubled in consideration to the sentence the court
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noted that aklan had a common law wife and two children and that he was known to be quiet and polite but as for his
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assertions that he came from a troubled family and therefore wasn't his fault that he had shot a bunch of people the
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evidence didn't back that up the court found that quote most killers are typically the products of poverty a
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dysfunctional family physical or sexual abuse and or social deprivation aan was the product of a loving middle class
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family as the jury sought akan was a exposed to all the values that are Central to an ordered Society however he
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chose to reject them he made a conscious choice to become a killer he was not born to it but I still think that's weak
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and pathetic to these people that do horrible things to blame it on somebody else some other reason this was done to
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me so therefore this is how I turned out it's accepting no responsibility yeah here too we get the jury that would
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recommend the death penalty in this case as well the judge agrees with it uh it was not such a unanimous vote
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as in the previous case this was a 10 to2 vote on August 24th 1998 the trial court sentenced Nicholas akan to 20
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years imprisonment for each count of attempted murder to be served consecutively and ordered him to pay a
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fine of $10,000 and a $10,000 victim's compensation assessment for each count for the capital murders the trial court
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sentenced him to death so we have two of the three murders trials they took place now we have
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convictions now we have what their sentencings are going to be MH so then what happens to the third murderer so
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Corey Johnson is our third suspect and according to our Witnesses surviving Witnesses they're saying that his
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behavior was very different from the other two suspects and perpetrators and forensic evidence proved that he didn't
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fire a shot witness statements proved he didn't fire a shot furthermore those statements said that he tried to
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convince the other two perpetrators that they shouldn't shoot any of the victims that he tried to persuade them
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multiple times that the victims would not report the home invasion that we weren't we're not leaving Witnesses
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because they're not going to they're not going to tell on us they're not going to
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call this in we just need to get out of here uh he actually went at one point and got ice and tows for some of the
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victims who had been smacked and beaten by the other two perpetrators so it's really difficult to look at this
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and separate one from the other or in this case one from the others cuz they're all
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part of it correct but then at the same time again if you didn't pull the trigger well and that's what the Madison
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County district attorney is saying and says to the court and says to the newspapers as well after we've reviewed
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all the information and the evidence the witness statements and talk to all the perpetrators as well that our office's
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conclusion is that there was no intent by this suspect to actually kill anyone and he didn't kill anyone
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so they were not going to make this a death penalty case for Corey Johnson they're saying we're not he's not guilty
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of capital murder so we're not going to charge him with that but he was engaged in a felony whether it be a burglary or
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an assault whatever you want to label it at the time of the deaths so he needs to be charged for
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that but there was no intent by this individual to kill anybody well I'm assuming he's a lot more Cooperative
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with law enforcement yes strikes a deal with the Madison County prosecutor's office he pled guilty they didn't need
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to have a trial for him and in fact he he not only did he plead guilty but he also said that he would testify against
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the other two in court but he was never called to to testify yeah but this is a sign of remorse yeah obviously we have
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one murderer in this case that thinks he's big bad his [ __ ] don't stink I got my crew shows no remorse
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this individual is going oh by the way I'm going to plead guilty cuz I am guilty and I and I guarantee you if he
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is listening to our show and we said those actions you being there not stopping it that makes you a piece of
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[ __ ] probably agree with us well yes but let's not yeah I'm I'm not trying to give him a trophy well that's what the
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Le piece of [ __ ] of these horrible pieces of [ __ ] let's not hand out any flowers just yet because I wish he would
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have stopped this he was released in 2011 and it appears that while he had no intent to kill anybody he whatever
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lesson it was for him to learn he did not learn that lesson so he he's released in 2011 oh great so now I'm
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going to be the [ __ ] back November 30th 2016 Huntsville police received a 911 call that a victim had been cut up
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officers responded to a home in the 2600 block of Del nor L around 5:00 p.m. when
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emergency Personnel arrived at the scene they found that this was the home of Cory Johnson he's the guy that the
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captain was going to get a trophy to yeah now no trophies I'm the dumbest boy in school well Corey
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Johnson C he was the one that in fact called 911 so when they arrive at this home his home he's sitting on the porch
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waiting for the cops he tells the First Responders that they needed to lock him up because he's
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the one that did it and what he's talking about is what they're about to find inside inside the house the First
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Responders found 42-year-old Candace Wilson face up on a blood soaked bed she had been stabbed multiple times I I
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don't want to go too far down this road because we know he's guilty he admits when they show up so essentially he's a
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guy that does horrible shitty things and then he feels bad about it afterwards yeah he
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he called it in she had been stabbed like 60 times or something the other thing that's really really crazy and
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bizarre here too is Candace Wilson that's not the first time that you've heard her name she she was mentioned
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before she's Doughboy's sister right well this makes me the dumbest boy in school biggest
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douche canoe I got my foot in my mouth and there's a little bit of dog poo on my shoe well she was with Nicholas aklan
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she was the one that rememb she said oh I didn't I didn't consent to the search of our home right where you guys found
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the gun and she had the two the guns she was the one that had two kids with the other
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perpetrator and after they all went away to prison and he gets out at some point they strike up a
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relationship together and he I guess believed that she was running around on him and they they this this
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relationship had a lot of problems a lot of issues uh but certainly nobody wanted
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this to be the outcome she ends up dead he ends up back in prison he plad guilty
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to her murder in 2020 avoiding the death penalty he received a life sentence for Candace's
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murder [Music] all right cheers mates we we are back talk hands in the air cheers to you
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Colonel cheers to you Captain so of the three murderers mhm the one that was going to get the lesser sentence or got
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the lesser sentence he gets out ends up killing somebody else mhm I almost gave him a
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trophy I feel awful about it you can send your hate mail to Captain at true Crim
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garage.com but what happens with these other guys cuz they're sent to death but we know that there's going to be appeals
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yeah there and as we know from The Three Amigos there will be a plethora of appeals so there would you say I have a
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plethora of appeals these two guys do they're sentenced to death in the state of Alabama and let's skip over Wilson
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because none of his appeals seem to carry any weight everyone that's been a f been filed to date has been uh
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overruled or the basically the death sentence has been upheld every time they've reviewed any of this other
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information do we know when he's going to be sentenced to death or if he will be sentenced to death I believe that he
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will be now Nicholas anlan who also has a bunch of appeals yeah there's one that
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stands out here so in in 2002 he files a claim that's worth discussing because it was taken all the
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way to the Supreme Court aklan claimed that his attorney had a conflict of interest
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resulting in ineffective assistance in counsel because of his loyalties were not to him the client to Nicholas aklan
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here's what happened so his attorney agrees to represent him after he met with his
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mother and father the mother and father were divorced in September of 1996 his mother Velma promised to pay
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a $25,000 retainer to the attorney even though it was obvious to the lawyer that
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she was in financial distress he had never get paid right so Velma the mother paid about $1900 over
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the next two years his father Thaddius paid $2,900 the attorney worked nearly for
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free when you consider when you add those two amounts together it gets nowhere near $25,000
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but that's the amount he was paid to work this case and represent their son two days before the trial in
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1998 the mother goes to the attorney telling the attorney that that her husband had perpetrated several abuses
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against her and her children pretty serious stuff Seri Alle serious allegations we should say these are
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allegations the abuse included multiple allegations of Thaddius threatening her and the
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children with a gun she testified at an evidentiary hearing that Thaddius would have a gun
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in his hand and would shake it and would shove it down her mouth and that the two
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sons would be screaming telling their dad not to hurt their mom he didn't hurt them but he disciplined them with fear
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and threats of violence and it's some pretty aggressive disturbing stuff the short of it here Captain is that at some
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point the the claim that the claim that our suspect is going to make in his appeal is that this should have been
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brought up at his trial as a mitigating Factor on the sentencing he's not saying
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I'm innocent he's just saying you know this this shaped me it molded me it it it affected me in a way that made me a
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violent individual it was one of the blocks that built me to becoming a murderer this would ultimately get shot
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down even though it was a it was on its face a pretty good solid appeal what he's claiming is that well my attorneys
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never brought that up because they didn't have my best interest at heart they were worried about getting paid and
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when these allegations were brought up by my mother to the attorneys my father then said okay but if that comes out at
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trial I'm not paying you guys your fee so he's telling the appellant court that I had bad representation because their
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best interest was getting paid by my father not with protecting me or keeping me out of prison right however what was
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Learned was that it was in fact the suspect that had signed off that none of that information would come
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out at his trial it was he was the determining Factor right that that wouldn't be brought up at trial and once
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that was reviewed during the Appel during the appeals process it was overturned so while it
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looks good on its face what the Court's going to say is well if this was such a big serious deal then why did you
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say why why didn't you want this presented at the first trial why are we doing it years later and obviously he's
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going hey my dad's paying someone for my attorney fee so it makes sense that this
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stuff is not going to come out that's probably why I agreed to it but then it's like you agreed to it so you can't
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later say my my lawyer's messed up no you messed up again but even if your dad was abusive even if your dad was
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threatening family members with a gun even if it goes beyond that even it's even if it's unspeakable
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actions it makes no sense to go into this house over a bag of weed and a cell phone and some tough guy [ __ ]
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and torture these people killing four victims leaving two injured and then creating all these other victims all the
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people you murdered their families now have to suffer well their Community suffers and then on top of that now
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there's three murderers that are behind bars that are going to be locked up and then that destroys other fam Ames well
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and there's a standard for appeals process you can't just have somebody that's sentenced to death that goes well
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I I don't agree with it here's an appeal no you have to have grounds for an appeal so this on its face is grounds
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for appeal but what is that appeal the appeal itself is I had poor counsel my lawyers did not have my best interest at
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heart during my trial so I had ineffective counsel is is the term used for this right the in 2013 after a hearing these
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are multiple hearings people much smarter than you and I captain sorry to speak for the both of us come on man I'm
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I told you already I'm the dumbest boy in school now you got to kick me when I'm down judges and officers of the
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courts reviewed this information and what was decided after a 2013 hearing the judge ruled that Nicholas a Nicholas
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akan was the one who chose not to present that evidence at trial so he cannot now blame that on his
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lawyer because it wasn't his lawyer that refused to presented at trial it was the
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client but this is just the lawyer is the lawyer has a fiduciary duty to the client if the lawyer says no we should
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present this and the client says no I don't want to well he's got to do what is client wants right so he can't in
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retrospect go back and flip the script and blame it on somebody else but this is another
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example when you when you said at the beginning that these guys aren't rocket scientists this is just another example
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of the stupidity yes and then you have the the one youngster who's trying to talk the other guys at the scene out of
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doing this we don't have to shoot anybody clearly he shows remorse for his involvement there and then he gets
00:34:55
out and this is one of those situations Captain where you look at it it's like was this dude bad all along is he just
00:35:02
not great at controlling his actions Does He surround himself with dumb bad violent people yeah because we know we
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do know that he can control his actions to a certain point because he didn't pull a trigger right and and after he
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stabs Candace Wilson he calls police yeah then it makes you wonder what happened to him in prison
00:35:26
right that's one of those we we talk about it all the time anytime the serial killer conversation is is being debated
00:35:34
it's a lot of debate of nature versus nurture I usually tend to think that it's a it's a a bit of both it's a mixed
00:35:43
bag and then you have other people that say you know well prison doesn't reform anybody it doesn't rehabilitate
00:35:51
anybody and and I I think that we can show great examples of people that have been rehabilitated and I think we can
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can also show great examples where maybe it did shape and mold somebody into more
00:36:03
of a criminal and it's hard for us to sit here and say if that were the case here
00:36:09
but we know the result right we know that he he killed this woman he's charged with capital murder
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which which is right to do so even though he's the one that calls the cops because Alabama law says that anyone who
00:36:23
has a previous murder conviction within 20 years of a second murder must be charged with capital murder upon
00:36:30
Commission of the second homicide so that was the big thing for them to sort out at his second murder
00:36:37
trial if you will you know it it everybody understood who killed the victim the weapon was found inside the
00:36:46
home it was a small pocket knife he had simply set it on the dresser in the bedroom before going
00:36:52
outside and calling police hide the evidence but I think I asked you before if you ever seen the movie shot
00:37:02
caller and I I think it's a complete fictitious story but the idea is this guy goes to
00:37:10
prison for his his buddy was killed in the car of the car he was driving but he was drunk so he got V vehicular
00:37:21
manslaughter and he pled guilty so he's only supposed to be in prison for maybe a couple years maybe 18 months now
00:37:30
getting out of prison is going to really affect his life in the long run because
00:37:34
he's going to be he's going to have this charge on his record but because it is a murder charge he has to
00:37:44
go to prison with some bad dudes and he has to become a bad dude himself just to
00:37:50
survive those 18 months to two years or whatever it is when I watch the movie myself I go if
00:37:57
I was was put in the situation I don't know what I would do I if you're in a situation where
00:38:04
you're surrounded by the worst of the worst bad dudes that don't give a [ __ ] and not
00:38:11
going to show remorse then you don't you have to become an animal yourself just for survival and what would that do to
00:38:19
you depending on how many years you had to do that for I feel awful though because I went
00:38:26
to give him a trophy and now I feel like I'm giving him excuse well and I'm not you have nothing
00:38:33
you're guilty of nothing here sir but other than being the dumbest boy in school the so when he goes back to
00:38:41
prison okay we know he pleed guilty so he avoids the death penalty there he receives a life sentence but also part
00:38:48
of that is that it's ordered that he Johnson be restricted from contact with Joey Wilson and Nick
00:38:55
acklen right we don't want these three yeah joining forces and forming Voltron inside of this
00:39:02
prison now the prosecutor who was the prosecutor for all three of these individuals in talking about Johnson
00:39:12
after he gets out and then commits the murder on Candace Wilson he told al.com quote you've got as close and personal
00:39:20
to Mayhem and criminal activity of the highest level and you learned nothing from it we incar at you for 15 years you
00:39:29
get out and you've learned nothing you make choices and you go right back to it but it's tough though too because
00:39:38
when you watch these shows or these documentaries on these prisons a lot of these prisons don't
00:39:45
have actual programs they're not forcing these individuals to have some kind of education it's it's
00:39:55
available to them but they don't have to do it and I think if I was to create a prison
00:40:03
system I think I want to have a situation where you can just sit in your cell all
00:40:09
day cuz what are you learning from that today the home where the cell phone murders happened has been
00:40:17
demolished the prosecutor Rob browser told WHNT news every time I glanced at the
00:40:26
house I thought about about the case horrible tragedy occurred in that house you think about four young people just
00:40:33
barely out of their teenage years who haven't been with us for the last 20 years every time I look at that house it
00:40:41
had a certain sadness about it Joey Wilson and Nick akan remain on death row to this day they are each being held at
00:40:51
Holman Correctional Facility in Atmore their appeals went on and on and on Sherry Carter the sister-in-law of
00:41:00
one of the victims Brian Carter told WHNT that 25 years was way too long to wait for
00:41:10
justice we have family members that have fought cancer and all kind of illnesses
00:41:16
to stay alive just to see the Justice carried through and unfortunately every one of our victims has lost a parent or
00:41:25
grandparent or something during during this time of us waiting and they are still waiting to this day both Wilson
00:41:35
and aklan remain on death row Joseph Wilson's appeals very recently ran out the Alabama Court of Criminal Appeals
00:41:44
recently upheld his conviction and death penalty that was decided June 28th 2024 and these families are still
00:41:55
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