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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] all right little Q&A welcome to the fold welcome to the
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Q&A I'm your host the captain did you weed out all the you know like the we we typically get the same batch of
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questions no matter where we go so some of these are similar to what we've answered in the past okay but it's kind
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of well where are we at now gotcha and you you'll you'll notice those questions as we go along so first we want to thank
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not even on Instagram right right it's okay all right so the first question this is I thought this was an odd
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question coming to podcasters but it was uh what was your first concert like Rock and Roll concert well so in
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complete complete truthfulness here my actual first concert I believe would have been the oakd boys I
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was very little and just kind of tagged along with my mom and dad and I actually
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enjoyed it I I remember going home and then like asking my father like hey can I listen to your ID boys tapes El marra
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yeah elvir or elvir um El I don't know that I remember any of the other song but like first concert that I went to
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you know willingly you know old enough to buy my own ticket and go would have been there was a local show at the big
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Amphitheater here in Columbus this would have been early '90s and the setup was it was all actually local bands there
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was a local radio station here called The Blitz well they're they're still around I just don't listen to them
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anymore but uh the Blitz had done like a local stuff album so like the best of the best local bands hard rock bands uh
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techno um heavy metal all that kind of stuff and they pulled a handful of those bands that were featured on that CD and
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I had that CD and I loved it and so I went to a concert and watched a bunch of Lo bunch of local bands the headliner
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was Watershed which I'm captain you know this most of our listeners won't know who Watershed is but to this day you're
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still a water still a huge Watershed fan one of my favorite bands of all time top
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five for the colonel here yeah well maybe they should invite you out to a show I I don't know that they do shows
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anymore the one guy moved to the West Coast a couple years ago to get away from me right right there was a
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restraining order but they were actually popular enough that they got signed to Sony records for a while and and
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couldn't really couldn't really catch on nationally but they're uh inspired heavily by Cheap Trick so that' give
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people kind of a Vibe of of who they are and what they sound like there was a another local band that was signed they
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sing alcohol yeah Howen Maggie yeah friends I've been friends with Andy Harrison
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their guitar player for years they had a song alcohol they had a song too called
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I'm a [ __ ] which was a which was a local hit it's probably based off of a I'm a
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[ __ ] that's why you love me that's why you hate me too I think my first concert
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was um the Dare band you know uh I was I think I went to the same was that slam circus was that the
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name of the band I don't remember what they're called the Dare band oh you oh you mean the the cops the actual Cops
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playing off drugs keep a kid off drugs I'm thinking of a completely different so the thing I'm thinking of was there
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was like a wathon MH for to raise money for the local dare project or whatever and it they H they hired some um you
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know local band but you you're talking about the actual like they look like they're police officers right and then
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all their guitars were like shaped like guns and stuff I like yeah dare to keep a kid off drugs keep a kid wasn't to
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give a kid some hope keep a kid off dope give a kid some hope give a kid some dope it's it's amazing that they weren't
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like a huge like World Tour one of my good friends um cp1 that's what I call him I had uh two friends with it Chris
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last name with a p mhm and and so I had one in um through Elementary School and High School even into college and then I
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met another one so he became cp2 but cp1 went to see the Ninja Turtles concert and I remember just C being so jealous
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like oh my your parents took you I don't remember that this is the this is the Ninja Turtles like their full costume
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full costume playing pretending to play instruments I mean how could you play anything with those giant fingers yeah
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and I yeah I just remember that I remember not only did he go to the Ninja Turtles concert but he also had the
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Simpsons CD oh this is one like one your rich friend cp1 yeah and every yeah and
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he wasn't he wasn't rich I mean same class but the difference was you know having four siblings and then they only
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had two and then you go why does he get so much more stuff than I do uh but anytime he complained about his parents
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I kept on thinking Ninja Turtle concert right you can how dare you speak ill of these people
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how how dare you I don't I don't know any I didn't even know that they did concerts I remember that van ice like
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ruined his career by doing the soundtrack didn't he no no no he he solidified himself as a legend for all
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time by doing yo ninja rap I think was that called n Go Ninja Go nin go go see everybody knows that and if you don't
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know that you better ask somebody somebody's paying $1.99 to download that right now on iTunes all right here's
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another question what's the best film I trust they these get more True Crime as we go but what is the best film that you
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have seen in the last few years and I don't think this is technically True Crime it's just film oh
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that's that's rough um I've seen a l i me I really liked the Halloween movie and we talked about that here but I
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think probably the best movie If I had a really pick one that I've seen in the last few years that's kind of a it's
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kind of a vague question here um what was that three Billboards outside of I can't remember the title of it I haven't
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watched that yet so don't no spoilers dude I loved that movie I thought it was great Woody Harrelson's in it who I'm is
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the best he's just a fantastic uh actor and then we had the and I'm going to get
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crucified for this it's the lady from Fargo she was in Fargo she's a big time actress she's I don't know her name
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though she won a bunch of awards for this yeah three Billboards outside of yeah uh I don't know where I don't remember
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where it was but must been a great movie here's what I will say for those of you
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out there looking for a movie to watch that you like True Crime this is pretty close to True Crime I mean it's a
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fictitious movie but it is like her daughter is I I don't remember if she's missing or murdered but there's an
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investigation that's going on were you drunk when you watched this because you don't know much about it well I'm
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getting thrown this question I probably watched this movie like six months ago okay it's it's not like I watched it
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last night so you've been drunk since then yeah why you can't remember I I eping was it three three Billboards
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outside of eping I'm not looking um I don't yeah three Billboards that's how I know it so yeah mine is and
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I've talked about this a lot um David Foster Wallace's movie the end of tour it was um lifechanging for me then I
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told a bunch of people watch it and then everybody watch it and said ah it's pretty good and I was like glad that the
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life-changing movie for me was just pretty good for you but I think it all the perspective of where you're coming
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from but Jesse Eisenberg and Jason seagull Jason seagull is amazing uh Jason give me a call put me in one of
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your movies I could play like you know your handsome brother or something I should have just tapped on
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my iPad right at the start of this question three Billboards outside of ebbing Missouri and it's Francis
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mcdorman is the mother who rents three Billboards to call attention to her daughter's unsolved murder so murder
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mystery watch it all right here's another question number three why do you steer towards the more widely and
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well-known cases as opposed to doing more local cases now look I think it's debatable
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that we do that right that's why I was like H it's all depends on what you pay attention to I mean yes we've done Scott
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Peterson Michael Peterson when when you hear cases like that or you know we I think we plan on covering the Chris
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Watts case eventually these are Big cases that are in the media Spotlight and so we'll get
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tons of requests so right you know very thankful to have a bunch of listeners so
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hey that's what you guys want to hear us talk about that's what we'll try to talk
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about uh to fill in the gaps of that when we're picking the cases they normally 90 some per the cases that
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we're picking are cases that are not covered nationally yeah so the way that I kind of describe this to my friends or
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people that ask me similar question like how do you decide what cases you pick well I kind of describe it like this
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like I think 75% of the cases we choose are driven by listener request and 25% are kind of ones that you and I might
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dig up on our own but we really try to focus and let the listeners have a big time say so in what cases we cover and
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like the captain just said the well-known cases do get more we do receive more requests for them because
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they're they're they're just better known I mean but well and the other problem with this question um it's not a
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bad question but one of the other issues is what what a wellknown case to you is
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might not be a well-known case to somebody else I mean there's a lot of people that I know that will just pop in
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and listen to a show from time to time on on just for our show and so they're popping in and they might you
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know Brandon Lawson is a pretty popular case now pretty you know talked about uh
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tons of YouTube videos about tons of podcasts where they talk about the Brandon Lawson's case you know when we
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cover that case it wasn't a huge case it wasn't super popular so I think um we covered Tony Muny
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nobody I mean pardon me but outside of Tony nobody still covered it I outside of Tony's family I don't know that
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anybody has discussed his murder in the last 20 years and maybe we're just being
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defensive dicks okay question number four y if you had a chance to know what actually
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happened now there was this question was posed by multiple people in multiple ways so I put them all together okay if
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you had a chance to know what happened actually happened and one missing person case or unsolved case what case would
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that be I would have to go zodiac um you know so you could pick really any of the murders in that string
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of murders but you would you would know who did it um that for me I look and I I
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kind of almost dislike this type of question because I think it's an interesting discussion we ask for all
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these questions no no no now we're judging you on your questions well they're judging us on the answers um I
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dislike this kind of question for this reason it's really hard for me to pick I mean and that's that's what makes this a
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good question though yeah but right and we've had this question before but what makes it such a great question is if you
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ask us next week the answer is probably going to change if you ask me 10 minutes
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from now it's going to I I mean I just now sitting here going west Memphis 3 you know it's Jack the Ripper uh Amy
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mahalic yeah Amy mahalic lately I've been reding into that cas yogurt shop and and that one kind
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of I'd say right now just for what I've been diving into like when we get a break you know and and maybe I'm all
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caught up on the research for next week's show m i I've been diving into some interesting theories on the Amy
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mahalic case like she had an older brother correct yeah Jason yeah so I've been I got a couple people that sent me
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some really interesting theories on on some people that were connected to the brother mhm and and that's an angle that
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I've never really heard before or thought about before CU it really kind of went straight to teachers and
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administrators and things like that so to be diving into a whole different aspect has been pretty interesting so
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I'd say right now if I could know what happened in the Amy mahalic case uh that would be awesome but you know there's
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like three that always pop to to my mind West Memphis 3 adnot Sayed um and and then lately the Stephen Avery case I'd
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really like to know what exactly what happened and a lot of people go well you know especially like Adon sad supporters
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would go well he's innocent well I'm not saying he's not I'm just saying I want to there's things that don't make sense
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in that case whether he's innocent or guilty they don't make sense to me so I want to know why they make sense you
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know the rig of mortise always drives me nuts there and then also the the tals of
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um the wide fishy tales of Jay always is a mystery to me and the other one that gets
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me is Donnie Donnie's Alibi doesn't still doesn't make any sense to me I'd like to know I'd like to know
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about that alibi and think about this if you got the details of it what if his story actually was the
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truth like this whale of a story of how he worked at a different location that day like if you could find out those
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details later cuz sometimes that's what happens sometimes things don't line up somebody looks very suspicious somebody
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looks like they're the number one suspect and then out of nowhere DNA proves that they're not the guy right
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and then it kind of blows your mind because there's one or two points that just didn't add up and then all of a
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sudden they do and you realiz the person was telling the truth okay Long Island serial killer would be another see how
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difficult this question is we just 20 minutes later you know you know what would save us the most time personally
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though is if West Memphis 3 was solved because that's the one that you and I keep bumping our heads we keep we it's
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what maybe once a month we end up in an hourlong discussion about West Memphis 3
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yeah it would save us a lot of time going forward I hate to sound selfish here but I'd have to find another hobby
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all right number five uh how does Nick come up with the so clever and so funny Captain
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intros oh uh well the captain does write some of those um I write some of them and I do find a lot of them other places
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like I might hear somebody say something similar or if you see like something funny on a beer sign at a bar um those
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work well yeah sometimes we have buddies that send them my buddy Morgan sometimes
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sends one or My Buddy Joe sends one I'm sure some of your buddies send you some hey yeah and so it's not really you know
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sometimes I do come up with a clever one or the captain comes up with a clever one himself but I did have somebody
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asked me a question the other day sent me an email and they wanted to know do you know what the intro is going to be
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before I say it and I told him I said most of the time not because I'm kind of showing up with it already scripted out
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uh but there are occasions where you write the intro so obviously you know it then but uh the neat thing is sometimes
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that I just kind of throw one out there and then you have to kind of react to it
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yeah and sometimes there sometimes I'm reacting by going that that one's not even good U and then we just rewrite one
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on the spot um so a lot of those come Seinfeld references Larry David references and also I think we're both
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fans of comedians so you'll hear like little jokes on The Tonight Show or Saturday Night Live and we just try to
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um the you know some of them are look they're stolen jokes yeah Steve Martin yeah we're not comedians here we stole a
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lot of Steve Martin a lot of Steve stole his whole damn career yeah well we made
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nothing compared to what he's made I'm working on playing some banjo so no I mean so that's as a t tip of our cap to
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that and it is difficult though because we've done like 200 you know because we didn't do Captain intros right off the
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get you know right when we we first started but we've probably done 250 of them yeah and and what's nice though is
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uh you know we've had people we've had comedians like christalia listen to the show uh Michael lenoce Christal Leia's
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opener Kristen Carney which is a very funny um host of the mentally ill or mentally chill podcast and she got into
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our show because of the the captain intros cuz there were so many Seinfeld references and she's like big fan
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Seinfeld so um yeah so that's my favorite one still is the middleweight thumb wrestling champion of
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the world right which was a long time ago like the first five episodes probably right so I'm hoping that I can
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recycle it and use it again that it's almost so old yeah maybe maybe next week maybe this week okay how do you guys um
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how do you guys stay so grounded with all the female attention I think with don't know that
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there's that much female I think I think what they're talking about is um when we
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post a picture or something on social media sometimes the comment threads become kind of silly as far as like
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you're so handsome or I think that's what they're most of those are coming from men hopefully we can only hope uh I mean
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I was told I look like a big dork already once today so did I tell you that no a different friend oh that's ni
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so you got get that's how we stay grounded there's people to kick us well we do read the comments but I think if
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you let the you know with the comments it's a slippery slope I mean if you let the
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people telling you that you're hot and your voice is sexy or whatever it is if you let that go to your head then you're
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going to let the negative comments go to your heart so I think you have to you know it's a fine line it is a nice
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pickme up though after read about some depressing cases yeah and I think a lot of it's in good fun I mean we've met a
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lot of married women that say oh you're my celebrity crush and but their their husband's right there taking the picture
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and he's more handsome than we are yeah he's way better looking and he's in better shape taller broad shoulders he
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just doesn't want to talk so much about Drew Grime CU you know he he has a life um all right
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so how do you feel this is question number seven how do you feel uh I guess this is
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directed towards me how do I feel when I say something hilarious and Nick just keeps going um it's probably a good
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thing we got to keep the story rolling uh Nick's not a good listener so it's just I mean I've been
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friends with him for years he's not a good listener which is fine makes him a good
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talker and actually I probably get mad when he laughs or when he you know has to stop the show
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cuz then it causes more time of recording and editing so I had someone recently tell me that
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I'm being rude to you by not um that you'll throw something out there and I and then I just go back into the story
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yeah but but which is not my intention but we're also big fans of Comedians and like we were talking um about before
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like if I if I'm at home watching a standup special I'm not like cracking up laughing I'm not like screaming and
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cheering I'm not a psychopath I'm just enjoying it I'm smiling does that make a sense so let's
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no because you just just it inadvertently talk [ __ ] about me because I if I watch it stand up at home that's
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how I kind of Judge it if if I'm if I'm laughing out loud uh watching a stand up
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it's it's a hit for me if I can't if I get to 15 minutes in and I'm not laughing out loud I shut it off yeah
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mine's more in my face I I'll feel my face get getting tired from just smiling so Joe Lopez he used to um he used to
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make some of the he was he is one of my favorite stand-up comedians and George Lopez sorry I called him Joe he's one of
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my favorite I don't even know his damn name George Lopez some of his standups have you want to talk about psychopath
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Me Not only am I laughing out loud he's made me cry a few times sitting at home uh watching his his uh standup why are
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you crying one of my favorites of all time you know what's so crazy for me with the whole comedy thing
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is you go watch somebody like christalia time of your life he is a master he's fantastic
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he contorts his body in such a way he has kind of a Swagger on stage it's super entertaining
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hilarious now look this is not me talking [ __ ] his his standup special good too mhm but my face hurt 10 times
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more live and comedy's alive I about peed myself when we saw Christ Leo live uh he he's Fant and you
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know what Jeffrey Ross does that something Jeffrey Ross does that too where like live mind blowing and then
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like you if you watch a stand up on TV Great still good stuff like chrisal Leo but not not the experience like I think
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because those guys especially Chris their whole that's their level they they are the kings of being on a stage in a
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dark room right you know where you get somebody like George Lopez Jerry Seinfeld they are the kings of being in
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a in a big Auditorium right you know that's their kind of thing I think crystalia I think uh Jeff Ross I think
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those guys if they had more familiarity with that could be just as good well and
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like I saw Tom sagora live and it was it was good laughed but you put you put on
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a Tom sagora comedy special Netflix special I I lose my [ __ ] uhhuh for whatever reason like gets to my brain
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better if I'm watching him on TV as opposed to live and he's telling the same jokes so I I I don't know what that
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is I I wonder what that is there is no great answer for why I don't react to some of the things you say but I will
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say this sometimes they're just not funny no but the other thing though there is there is some thought that goes
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into it on my part because of because there are times where you say something funny and then I will react to that and
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then afterwards like for that initial Split Second before I can get back into the story I'm going okay well it was
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funny when he said it but I I took it and dragged it out longer than it needed to be you know what I mean like
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sometimes it just you got to quit while they're still laughing yeah one yeah but
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I also kind of view it because I'm such a huge Steve Martin fan I kind of view it on he would he talked about watching
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this comedian live right right and that when you watch this comedian live that every time there's a a punchline the
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comedian would smack his belly so the little smack of his belly was letting the audience know hey this is the time
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you need to laugh right and so what's kind of nice about the on liners when they just pop in and you keep going is
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it almost feels a little unexpected M so you know that's why I'll hear a lot about people saying oh I spit out my
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drink or whatever yeah because you didn't know it was coming right cuz Nick wasn't telling a joke and I told you the
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punchline it came out of left field but that's also kind of where my brain works
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but I the thing I love about the on liners is when people say I was thinking this and then you said it and that is
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why a lot of times I won't bite my tongue cuz I know somebody else out there is thinking that M um so anyways
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thanks for that question all right number eight if you guys could become a crime fighting let me start
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again if you guys could become a crime fighting Duo what would your superpowers be well first of
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all uh we'd be called The Ambiguously Gay Duo that would be our crime fighting name mhm I think that might be taken
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already I love that that SK that Gary yeah the video short or whatever you was it um what was the other guy's name come
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back with my show I don't remember the the guys but um one of them's scary I know that that's a difficult question
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cuz in comic books what I always thought was the coolest um superpower would be to shape shift be it
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size or um disguise uhhuh you know or what you look like I always thought that was
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the coolest like you know gi. Joe you have Zartan who can take on the appearance of another person and you
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have that uh from Mystique in X-Men as well and then you have somebody like Ant-Man who can change his physical size
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yeah there's a there was a guy in the old Comics I believe his name was Adam like
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aom I believe and he could increase his size and decrease his size like he could
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be as large as he wanted and as small as he wanted I always thought that was the
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needest but if you're talking like crime fighting Duo then you feel like like a Batman or a Sherlock Holmes would be
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better suited for crime fighting Duo because they're those guys don't have any superhero Powers but they're the
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ultimate detective no they're not because my power would be to see in uh in the past present and future I'd be
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able to see all times and be able to go at any point any location at any time I wanted to maybe it's just viewing but if
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I had that power there would be no cold cases my friend mhm but that but see I don't know did they say crime solving
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crime or crime fighting or crime stopping well they said crime fighting Duo so so if you could go anywhere at
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any time you could technically stop the crime from ever happening the crime too you could and if you had that ability
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think about this you could go back once to see what happened when how it went down and then later go back again to
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prevent everything yeah yeah you that would be the best then Sherlock Holmes and Batman would not be needed at that
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point that would suck so you have trumped me I will go back to controlling how large I am or small I am well yeah I
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need a partner but you could like fit in my pocket if I was like Mystique I could
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what right I could also change going let us into the dance club that you could get like 8 foot tall be like listen to
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the dance club well let's say like the ously Gay Duo detective we need to dance before we go solve some crimes
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so you would know with your powers that Joseph D'Angelo would be the original nightstalker the Golden State killer
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right I knew that before a lot of people so think about this setup once you've already figured out who it is now you I
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I shrink myself go into your pocket you take us back to before the first murder takes place or the first rape whatever
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before his first crime for burglary when he walks into the room let's start at the Breakin first yes when he walks into
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the first house yes now I'm sitting there on the couch but I look exactly like Joseph
00:31:41
D'Angelo just to mind [ __ ] the guy so he comes in he's like that's me sitting on
00:31:47
the couch and then or is it or is it yeah think about that for a minute and then we then we remove him together
00:31:56
from the home it's just a version of him sitting on the couch jerking off we take
00:32:01
him to the couch frantically we take him to the garage murder him there put him in the trunk of our car drive him out in
00:32:07
the middle of nowhere and bury him and then original nightstalker never happened right then we move on yeah and
00:32:16
then there'd be a different original nightstalker yeah how does that work well but hopefully it's just a guy
00:32:24
looking into Windows Oh you mean they'd give they'd give somebody else the name yeah gotcha but hopefully we'd solve
00:32:30
that one too so we would be busy people you think we're busy now yeah you think we're busy now people and then we'd
00:32:37
report about it on the show and then it was crazy Nick got really small crawled up in the dude's ass and then got really
00:32:45
big and the guy split in half and he died you could report on all the crimes that we've stopped now but they would
00:32:52
have no proof of such because they never happened mhm I just like like to see the guy's
00:32:59
face every time guy or girl's face when I go yes we're from the future right M and he looks at me like I'm nuts and
00:33:07
you're like in the palm of my hand cuz you're small at this point and then you're like yeah we're from the future
00:33:14
and then he's like okay it's time to fight and then you become 20 feet tall and take on his appearance yeah and you
00:33:22
look just like him even though why wouldn't you take on like a bigger guy's take on anybody's
00:33:28
appearance but I think just just to confuse them for a second when you're small you look like Kevin Hart right and
00:33:35
then when you're big you look like The Rock The Rock yeah that would be smart that would be a funny movie somebody's
00:33:40
going to take that and make that a movie all right let's get back to the notes all
00:33:47
right uh number nine do you ever get questions or responses from the victim's families after we cover one of their
00:33:55
cases and we've answered this before I mean we uh received several emails Thanking
00:34:04
us for doing something correcting something if it was wrong um I don't think they ever do it to be snarky I
00:34:12
think it's normally uh you reported this and I think they know that we really interested in the truth and we're
00:34:18
interested in what happened in the case M so I think when they correct something
00:34:23
that we did it's it's normally for us to know more information about the case yeah we we've had several people reach
00:34:30
out to us after the after our coverage sometimes before uh asking us to cover their case which is great um what's
00:34:40
what's weird though and this is something that I think I've talked about before is I never would have guessed
00:34:45
this until knowing what we know now but some of these cases the family members or people close to the victim they
00:34:58
they know less than what was reported in in the old newspapers sometimes right and and what I mean that's weird about
00:35:06
that is I always just kind of assume that most of the time that the family is up to speed that they've almost been
00:35:12
working with the detectives and with the inspectors and that's not always the case and and in a in a very small
00:35:21
percentage of it they're less informed than than the general news is yeah some times we're getting messages saying how
00:35:30
much they learn about the case mhm which is interesting and then from time to time you know having a victim's let's
00:35:39
say husband there was one that sticks out a victim's husband that he I mean he just has become an expert on this case
00:35:47
and I think that's simply because he wants it solved um uh probably the most interesting one
00:35:55
and I I I think I can talk about this I think I've mentioned it before is when we cover the Tera grinstead case um
00:36:03
right and then getting a message from bod Dukes I can't the Duke and the Dukes right it's
00:36:13
Ryan Duke and Bo Dukes I think so yeah but yeah get an email basically you know listen to our podcast
00:36:22
and he is the one that you know him and his girlfriend came forward uh uh and he
00:36:29
confessed to the gbi which got them to get Ryan locked up and then Ryan's going to be on trial obviously for the murder
00:36:37
of Tera grinstead and a lot of people followed up and vanished and you never really got a
00:36:44
chance to hear Bo talk but for whatever reason he listened to our show and said I think this guy wants to know the truth
00:36:52
and uh he sent me a message saying I'd be willing to talk to you we got on the phone I mean this is something obviously
00:37:01
his lawyers didn't advise him of doing his lawyers would probably kill him um and manto man he said I can you not
00:37:10
record this I said absolutely not which I think I actually have the legal right that I could um record it I don't have
00:37:19
to give him any knowledge that I recorded it um but I didn't manto man I was like no you you you're willing to
00:37:26
talk to me I want to know what happened we spent about an hour and a half on the
00:37:30
phone um I called him a piece of [ __ ] about 20 times on moments where the story L
00:37:40
itself for him to be a piece of [ __ ] and every time he agreed so it was you know
00:37:45
I'm not saying anything new um and found it was so interesting to hear his version of the story because one a lot
00:37:55
of things just become way clear things that didn't make sense before start becoming a lot clearer and then a lot of
00:38:02
these things that people were little points of evidence that people were looking into years probably didn't have
00:38:08
anything to do with the case um but it was a fascinating conversation and and in that
00:38:15
moment I think when he text me like here's my number call me I just thought like this isn't real like this is this
00:38:23
isn't happening like I'm going to get all these answers after after we just recorded two episodes on this case so it
00:38:31
was it was probably the most fascinating um encounter with somebody involved in a case I was talking with
00:38:40
somebody um couple family members last week of a case that I want to cover in the future
00:38:47
but there's not a lot of information out there this kind of goes back to the question we were talking about earlier
00:38:54
if we lean towards more well-known cases this case case is not welln at all it's
00:38:58
not even well known in the area that it took place and it's a case that's always
00:39:04
intrigued me and I've always wanted to cover it but there's not much info out there there's not much of a story let's
00:39:10
say it would literally be 15 minute 20 minute episode right so I decided to reach out to some of the family members
00:39:19
and talk to them and see what we could figure out if if we could add more to this story and what was weird was I was
00:39:27
taking old information that was in the newspapers at the time and stuff that was later released on the internet and I
00:39:35
based my questions that I had prepped for them off of all of that information and the interesting thing
00:39:43
was depending on which family member I spoke to they had a completely different answer or a completely different account
00:39:52
of what they thought was going on at the time right now mind you in their defense
00:39:58
this case is probably um I don't remember the exact year right off off hand but 25 years old let's say yeah so
00:40:07
of course you know memories fade and memories change they even change after all these years but it was interesting
00:40:14
to hear completely different answers from people that I know that had nothing to do with what happened to their loved
00:40:20
one these are innocent family members these are people that have been hurting for a very long time and I don't know if
00:40:26
they're emotions have filled in some of the gaps some of the blanks for them throughout the years or if their
00:40:33
suspicions have well and that's just I think happens with time with any family in almost any event I mean this is going
00:40:41
to sound ludicrous but there's a story that I I remember going over to my my mother's mother's house when I was a
00:40:50
child and she was watching me for some reason and there was no other kids there and family of lot of grandkids and a
00:40:59
simple story of she was making me hot dogs they didn't have buns and so she's like well I'll just
00:41:07
take the Hot Dogs cut them up and you can dip them in ketchup I go well I don't like ketchup well how about
00:41:14
mustard well I don't like mustard either you eat your hot dog's plane yes I don't know what I like and
00:41:22
she said well do you want to find out and I said yes and so she took ketchup and put it in a pile and mustard in a
00:41:31
pile and then I went through and dipped the hot dogs to taste each one like relish and
00:41:36
everything now when I tell my my mother this story she thinks it's completely false and made up and it tells me I'm
00:41:44
crazy every time that you've just made up this it's an innocent story right there's nothing I sit around coming up
00:41:51
with these right and that's that's my argument is it's I don't I'm not talking about like uh a discipline time like oh
00:41:59
my grandma spanked me with a belt or whatever it's so simple and yet detailed that it has to be true right why would I
00:42:07
make that up right it's ridiculous but it's just to show you that that's that's kind of how history works you know
00:42:14
especially family history or I mean there's been plenty of times that we've talked about being in a band back in the
00:42:22
day and there's probably certain events that you remember way different than I do yeah yeah and it what's always fun
00:42:31
too is when you're hanging out with somebody that you know real well and have known for a long time and they tell
00:42:36
you a story of something that that happened when when all of you were there and present yeah and you're
00:42:43
like yeah you sure I don't remember any of that like I don't remember any of that like that day didn't exist in my
00:42:51
memory bank does not even exist to the point where you're like questioning was there somebody are you confusing me with
00:42:57
one of your other friends right no no no you were there you were and then somebody else tells you you were there
00:43:03
that's that's kind of scary all right so we got we got a lot more questions so we'll get to that next week after this
00:43:11
quick after this really long beer break we're going to take a beer break for a week about a about a week beer break
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