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murders in the history of this city Ran's gruesome murder will forever trouble a dedicated detective who
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retired without solving it and will haunt Ran's mother who's had to live with it every
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day whoever did this don't realize that it's a half of me that's just completely gone I can never get
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back it can never be restored so that morning he was up he was getting his clothes ready he had his
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little bag with his resume and you know he was a little concerned because he had
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been out of work not that long but a couple of months and it bothered him so I remember when I got to the train
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station I called him and I said listen your phone bill and if you have any other little bills you know mommy's here
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Mommy's going to help you I don't want you stressing over the fact that no one has
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called you back yet from the few interviews that you went on you will get a job until then Mommy got you and I'll
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see you later because he was my valentine date Mommy and Son were supposed to get
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together that day and you know have lunch and [Music] everything this is one of the most
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brutal murders in the history of this city Ran's gruesome murder will forever trouble a dedicated detective who
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retired without solving it and will haunt rashan's mother who's had to live with it every
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day Thursday February 17th this is back in 2005 at 3:00 a.m. we have two New York
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City Transit workers who are setting up lights for a Subway track cleaning crew this is when they made what would turn
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out to be a very Grizzly Discovery they spot two large black plastic trash bags on the subway tracks near the no strand
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Avenue Station which is located in Brooklyn newor New York now according to the NY Daily News these were blood
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soaked bags found near the southbound tracks so this would be about 450 ft north of the A train platform the hori
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transit workers decided to take a closer look this is when they discovered a Barefoot sticking out of one of the bags
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now of the find one of the workers said quote you could tell it was fresh the blood on the roaded was still wet so
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while it's unclear to the workers exactly what they have found their feeling at the time is that these bags
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with the foot have not been there for too long The Daily News which is not known for its subtlety their article
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goes on to say quote the site was so sickening that the first worker who saw it started to scream hysterically then
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yelling there's a leg there's a leg the other worker told the news Outlet at first I thought someone was under a
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train which would make sense given the setting at first when you look at it they said it didn't look real we didn't
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really know what we were seeing but then under the bag they could see a trail of
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blood when police get to the scene they're going to be the ones that are tasked with opening up these bags
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looking inside inside the bags the police found blue plastic bags and then inside of
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these blue plastic bags they found human body parts the report is that they found
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a torso an arm and two legs and judging by the appearance this is from a black adult
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male the legs had been cut off below the hips the blue recycling bags were found
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shoved between the tracks and the tunnel wall this is near an emergency exit that
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leads to the street above the bag with the body parts was split on both sides along the seams because of its heavy
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load so the weight of the contents split the bags the guess here was that the bags were carried as there were no signs
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that they had been dragged along the track bed to the location where they are later found obviously if the bag are
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dripping blood You' see the drag marks because the bags would be dragging the blood behind them this is a weird
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scenario right because here you have a crew that's setting up lighting for work that future work that is going to be
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done and you can picture this setting right away it's going to be dark down in these tunnels and I'm it's difficult to
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try to describe this find this discovery because I like many of us have never crawled through these subway tunnels and
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so I picture this dark area but here you have the scenario where these This Crew
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is out to set up these lights and the lights probably come into play here so they're able to view and provide a
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description of what they find and then call in the police who can then start to secure the scene and start their
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investigation on the subway platform near the Northbound track not far from the bag of Parts police
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found a canvas bag so this is different from what they've already found this was
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a wheeled black and tan toolbag with a rooster emblem on it so it's got wheels on the bottom this is one of those
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roller tool bags inside this bag they find bloody drill bits and some other tools so of course we are going to be
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testing the blood that's found on these tools right we are going to be testing the body parts later the blood on the
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tools would turn out to be human that's what the test would provide to us and we
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would also learn the results of those tests is that the blood on the tools matches the body parts that were found
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in those bags those other bags nearby so obviously somebody committed a murder dismembered the body to try to conceal
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possibly the identity of the body but also a way to carry the body out of wherever the crime was
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committed and so we got a Dumping Ground of of the body but we have a Dumping Ground site of the tools used to
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dismember the body now let's go to six days later this is Wednesday February 23rd here we have more body parts are
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found which of course immediately are going to be suspected to be linked to the others this time it was a mutilated
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pelvis found in trash bags among the debris at rapid processing garage plant on Humbolt Street in Greenpoint
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Brooklyn this is about 5 miles from the location where the first parts were found right then we have more parts that
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are found the following day this is more of the pelvis an arm and a hand were found on the
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24th they were all doubled up right all double bagged in the blue and then black
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plastic bags so this is uniform to the first find blue bags inside of the black bags the then Police Commissioner his
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name is Raymond w Kelly said everything found all have similar cut marks adding that investigators believe the cuts are
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clean done by someone with medical knowledge and a atomical knowledge and the ability to do some sort of refined
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work we should note that NY Police Commissioner Ray Kelly is the longest serving commissioner in the history of
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the NYPD and was a colonel in the Marines serving in Vietnam so Mr Kelly thank you for your service so what we're
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working with here Captain is if these were as the police believed to be all pieces of the same adult male one has to
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wonder how did his body parts get spread around to a few different locations yeah
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was that done by the killer was it done by some other means so we get one report
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and this is from the NY post that seems to explain what's going on here and it says
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that the rapid processing facility served a company that held the contract to collecting trash found along the
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Subways a line and the New York Times reported that detectives found Metro cards in the same
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trash Lots as the body parts so if I'm picking up what you're putting down it's possible that all these bags were dumped
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in the same location but some of them were moved by a company that was paid to collect the trash around the subway
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exactly so they believe the trash came from stations along the A-line but they were not able to determine exactly where
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along the a line so it's a it's a 32m route which my my information says has 35 stops so that's a lot of territory to
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cover so this would tell us captain that it seems likely that rather than the parts being disposed of in totally
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different locations the recycling plant and the subway tracks they were all dumped at various locations along the
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A-line tracks and somehow some of them got picked up as trash and sent to the processing facility in Greenpoint and
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others did not so I believe you are spoton with your assessment there meanwhile there was no head and no
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clothing that was found with any of these remains but strange that they left the hands because that would be
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identifier some people would say well maybe the head wasn't left behind because they didn't want the police to
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be able to identify the victim if they're not able to identify the victim they're not able to identify people that
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the victim would have known and this type of dismemberment typically would fall into
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two categories when you're looking at the person responsible I it could either a point to the depravity of the
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individual who committed this crime and these crimes or B it could be as simple as making a smaller package to later
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dispose of having several small packages rather than one large thing to dispose of and let's not forget it also could
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point to absolutely both all wrapped up into one here the pathologist concluded that the victim was a young adult black
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male who had died very recently whoever cut him into pieces had done so with quote surgical precision
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it was theorized that each limb had been neatly and sharply severed at the joint
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and then a chainsaw used to further disassemble the corpse on the Torso they found some stab
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wounds but the cause of death as far as the pathologist was concerned and I think even from a lay person's
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perspective was unclear because absent the head this is going to leave some question as to the exact act cause of
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death police got to start somewhere so they decide that they're really going to focus in on the clues that would be
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provided by the dismemberment so this is a good start this is a smart place to start well I
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think one of the first Clues is if there was a chainsaw used and we think that this murder took place with inside the
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city limits or close to where possibly the body where the body was dumped you'd Wonder is there any ear witnesses that
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heard somebody using a chainsaw in their apartment anybody that does a lot of yard work or
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landscaping and has familiarity with chainsaws I tell you Captain my chainsaw is louder than any other piece of lawn
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equipment that I have with a with a small motor on it right and it's not like they make a silencer for chainsaws
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now and in Brooklyn people are living in close proximity to one another so I think you're right like
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if if our victim was killed very recently then look there's no nice subtle way to say these things the
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victim was dismembered recently if you put this out to to the public you might get an earwitness that will come forward
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with some information that could that could really shrink the size the scope of your investigation and allow you to
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hone in on something now we've already discussed some of the details regarding this dismemberment and again that's
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where they're to focus the early stage of the investigation they're looking for leads here at this point they don't even
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know who their victim is yeah but they do have the victim's hands so they they would be able to possibly identify them
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through fingerprints so regarding this cut up with some sort of precision that's what was stated to the public and
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also by the other statement is some by somebody who had knowledge of autonomy so a butcher maybe could be a doctor
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doctor a mobster experience in hit cleanup and Disposal right now we have reviewed cases that are similar to this
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with similar methods used at concealing the disposal of remains in fact two come
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to mind two cases from Kentucky and unfortunately those victims have yet to be even
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identified right but this is a very rare breed it takes a very special level of pile of [ __ ] person to dismember a body
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yeah very few Killers go to these lengths and while I cannot speak to the exact specificity of these
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cuts and this body I don't want to limit it to some kind of expert right because
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frankly most times it it could be some med school dropout or somebody that worked in a butcher shop for a couple
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weeks they didn't have answers to who that doctor or butcher might be but at least they were able to identify the
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victim victim very helpful to the investigation for obvious reasons here we have the hands as the captain pointed
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out found intact fingerprints will provide police with the victim's name and identity sadly the deceased was
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positively ID as being 19-year-old rashan brazelle police went to the home where records indicated rashan lived now
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he lived with his mother and stepfather in Bushwick this is in Brooklyn Ran's mother desire told police that indeed
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yes her son was missing and in fact desire filed a missing person's Report with the police just days earlier ran
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brazelle was born April 15th 1985 in 2005 he was a young openly gay man who was in college part-time and
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working part-time he's at that age Captain where he's hoping to realize his aspiration
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of being a web designer fashion designer or singer he had tried his hand at modeling and worked several retail jobs
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but not really finding his thing now he was known as a kindhearted and rather creative individual he often designed
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and Seed his own clothing the New York Times described him as an energetic grounded 19-year-old who loved both
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music and cooking and he enjoyed going to clubs with his friends now the day in question here is going to
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be February 14th 2005 because sadly this is going to be the day that he goes missing yeah he
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said he's working part-time but on this day he leaves the home with resumés that
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he had prepared and in hand and he set out to go job hunting that's what he tells his mother and his stepfather so
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on the morning of February 14th note this is also Valentine's Day ran told his mother he was scheduled to meet with
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his accountant to prepare his taxes and that he had a stack of resumés that were ready to drop off at retail
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department stores in Manhattan so he's going to kill two birds with one stone here while he's out on his travels
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afterward the plan was that he was going to go meet his mom his mother desire brazelle Jones
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for lunch at noon ran like many New Yorkers does not have a car he does not have a vehicle he
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uses the subway to get around ran does not show up for this lunch date with Mom his mom calls him calls him calls him
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gets no response this is incredibly way out of character for this young man big red flag ran was known as a responsible
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and reliable individual and look he never stood his mom up you don't stand mom up on Valentine's Day this is a note
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to all the sons out there in listener land don't stand mom up especially on Valentine's Day and ran was not just a
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good son he was a great son and he would never do such a thing so of course this
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gave everyone great cause for concern later Ran's mother told the Daily News quote it didn't make any sense he lived
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through his cell phone remember she's trying to get a hold of him the for the remainder of the day on his cell phone
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and gets no response she begins to feel very uneasy so when she gets home from her job she's a social worker when she
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gets home at the end of the day she calls all of her friends that she knew any friends of his that she knew their
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phone number she's calling them trying to find her son to no avail finally she calls the police and reported her son
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missing on the same day February 14th needless to say it doesn't seem like much happened this is Brooklyn a young
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19-year-old male went off the grid police have other stuff to worry about he's an adult well it becomes tough
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because he has like you said he's an adult he can disappear if he wants to or just yeah just be gone for the night
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right but then later three days later when the parts are found which later are confirmed by DNA test compared with his
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mother's DNA confirming it was the missing young man right now unfortunately police have a homicide
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investigation rashan's family was devastated by this horrific and violent death his mother desire said in a 2014
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interview with Pix 11 no one deserves to end up being thrown away like they are trash she told the NY Daily News he was
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someone so loved he will be so missed everyone loved ran desire said he was her best friend rashan's friend
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Jacqueline Perez described him as quote the most upbeat happy person there was he' always wear something that turned
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your head and he always wanted to know how everyone was he was like a brother Joel Washington age2 a friend since
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kindergarten said so now that we have a full picture of what's going on here in the from February 14th through the
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17th and then even the later days when additional items are found now we are essentially riding shotgun with
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detective's Captain staying in the moment watching from afar what do the police need to figure out in Pronto this
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well-liked and loved young man goes missing on February 14th his body found on February 17th so we have two to three
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days to sort out by my calculations we have 63 hours unaccounted for we need to squeeze that window closed fill in the
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blanks and the missing events from that timeline and figure out when did he truly go missing what happened to this
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you Captain cheers to the people that paid for the good seats up front investigators came using Ran's
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neighborhood they they're talking to the neighbors and they learned that around 7:30 a.m. on February 14th and if you're
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paying attention you already know that this is the morning that rashan went missing yeah you're not paying attention
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well you have been warned on February 14th Police learned that a man an unidentified man buzzed rashan's
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apartment and ran came down to meet this man the two walked to the subway At The
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Gates Avenue Station and ascended the stairs to the elevated platform where the trains are accessed and then as far
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as we know he didn't tell his mother that he had plans to meet up with somebody and go job hunting together no
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and that that's what's interesting here because either this could be a planned comp companion if you will someone to
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travel with him or maybe or maybe this is just happen stance that ran doesn't know that this person's going to hit the
00:31:07
buzzer and then he's going to go down and go oh oh you're leaving too you're hitting the subway too yeah I'll walk
00:31:12
with you right so it's a little unclear if this was a planned event and the thing that's even more troubling is they
00:31:19
don't know who this person is so this person's not easily identifiable to anybody what they do have is Witnesses
00:31:27
saying look we saw somebody we saw some these events take place the two are seen
00:31:34
going to the subway together now after that they kind of lose track of both of these
00:31:40
individuals ran included right and we don't have anybody coming forward saying hey I I went to the subway with rashan
00:31:48
that day yeah and then later we get some other Witnesses telling police that they
00:31:53
saw rashan and this again this unnamed person exiting the subway in Bedford at the no strand Avenue Station but at
00:32:03
least if you're law enforcement you go okay well we don't have a name but at least we have a description of an
00:32:10
individual that was last seen with him and this area that we're talking about now exiting the subway in Bedford at the
00:32:17
no strand Avenue Station this remember this is where some of the remains would later be found right so this is where
00:32:25
the trail of iwit wies seeing ran and his movements this is where that trail ends the parts found in bags in the
00:32:34
subway were situated along the a line tracks between no strand Avenue and Franklin Avenue stations and the tool
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bag found on the platform with the parts containing tool bits and Ran's blood remember with the rooster brand wheel
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duffel bag here is your break in the case captain listen to this they studied this bag police and detectives really
00:33:01
honed in on this bag right they believe that it was very important and it's it's
00:33:08
a very simple thing you have a young man 19 years old he's living with Mom and stepdad you take a picture of this bag
00:33:16
you take a close-up picture of the rooster emblem on the bag you show it to Mom and stepdad you show it to friends
00:33:22
of Rad's and you say have you ever seen this bag in his possession did he own a bag like this did you ever see him
00:33:29
carrying or Wheeling around a bag like this if you get NOS from everybody no no no no you're going to work your
00:33:36
investigation with the idea that this bag does not belong to your victim it has to belong to somebody it might
00:33:43
belong to your killer definitely so they study the make of this bag they want to
00:33:48
know all about it where was it manufactured where was it sold how could one get a bag like this what they come
00:33:55
up with is that this bag is only one of 15 I'll repeat that one of 15 that were made and it sounds to me like these were
00:34:07
like prototype type bags like they made them to be tested to see if they were durable if they were if they helped
00:34:16
anybody carry out the job compatible with the work so for my understanding it's one of 15 that were made for
00:34:23
testing by the Metropolitan trans Transit Authority we'll call them the MTA going forward
00:34:31
they made these for the MTA employees back in 2001 now the trouble here with the 15 bags that we know that
00:34:41
were made for testing is that the trail of the distribution of these bags it didn't lead the detectives anywhere so
00:34:50
while they were able to figure out where and how they and why they were manufactured they couldn't really figure
00:34:56
out past the Metropolitan Transit Authority who would have got one of these 15 bags
00:35:04
right and like you said right now law enforcement goes okay we're starting off we have a dismembered body we have these
00:35:13
trash bags we have this tool bag okay if we can figure out the victim okay now we
00:35:18
have the victim it's going to be easier to track down this tool bag than it will
00:35:22
be these trash bags yeah and the thing you're hoping here too trash bags can be very useful to your investigation but as
00:35:29
the captain pointed out they're not nearly as unique as these 15 bags rooster bags that were made the roller
00:35:39
tool toolbox tool duffel bag but yeah they they can't find the distribution of these bags but it has an identifier so
00:35:48
then when you're talking to other people that might have seen the victim and the
00:35:53
killer together you can go did one of of them have this bag or when you're looking for a possible eyewitness of
00:36:01
somebody that saw somebody drop these bags off somewhere again you might see a lot of people walking with different
00:36:10
styles of bags but one with identifier it's a good starting point it's a great starting point the problem is it turns
00:36:17
out to be a real kick in the pants later right because as a detective you're looking at this and you're going okay I
00:36:22
have this this rooster yeah tool duffel bag to work from it's a real kick in the
00:36:28
[ __ ] it's one of 15 so if I can locate the 15 different individuals that have these I'm looking for I got a few things
00:36:37
in my toolbox here I'm looking for the person that's missing their roller toolbox I'm looking for somebody that
00:36:45
may have these black and blue trash bags in their possession we can use cut or tear marks to M possibly identify the
00:36:54
ones used to dispose of the remains with with the remaining role also keep in mind your victim's clothing was
00:37:03
missing from the scene so you may find the victim's clothes in the possession of the killer as well or the victim's
00:37:12
blood in their residence also it would be helpful if you locate someone that also owns a
00:37:19
chainsaw so at the beginning of this investigation you're thinking okay we got a major major lead
00:37:27
here we should be wrapping this thing up in 4872 hours right then later you're figuring out well we can't we beyond the
00:37:37
the company where we sent these things the Metropolitan Transit Authority we don't know who would have
00:37:43
had these these rooster bags so you get this real kick in the pants and then now
00:37:50
you got the the police are going well our our very good lead quickly dried up so the on top of that the other part of
00:38:00
your investigation they weren't able to figure out where ran had actually been killed it seems like they could not rule
00:38:06
out the possibility that ran was slain right there somewhere in the subway where the majority of his body was found
00:38:15
right Brooklyn North homicide detective Richard Amato said quote I believe somebody who had knowledge of the subway
00:38:23
system had to be involved in this end quote NYPD detective Anthony Baker told America's Most Wanted quote
00:38:32
the killer or Killers knew the layout these tracks were two flights down which leads me to believe they had some
00:38:40
knowledge of the tracks because nobody really goes to the unknown to dispose of something like that unless they have
00:38:48
been there before end quote right because you wouldn't want to put yourself into danger and it's a whole
00:38:54
different thing because this is a this this is a urban atmosphere I mean if this happen
00:39:00
in a suburban area where you have neighboring fields or Woods that's where the Killer is going to go to dispose a
00:39:09
body but here in the city where do you dispose of a dismembered body some hidden dark cavernous area by
00:39:20
the subway and those detectives are spot on because I bet you if we were in New York City right now we could quickly
00:39:28
Round Up 100 individuals that would tell us I've been on the subway system a thousand times right have you ever
00:39:37
decided to get down into the dirty tunnels and run around I bet you none of those 100 would say that they've ever
00:39:44
done that so I think the detectives are spot on here with their speculation about potential leads and and also a bit
00:39:53
of the psychology of the the killer here so police searched those tunnels until they were blue in the face detective
00:40:02
Amato stated we checked all the rooms in the subway in between stations and we never found the original crime scene to
00:40:11
be clear it's not possible that Ran's killer slayed him elsewhere bagged up the parts and chucked them from a moving
00:40:19
train onto the tracks you see what I mean what I'm trying to say is that's not possible Right the killer had to go
00:40:25
down to where these bags were found it does big the question you start wondering if it's one killer or multiple
00:40:32
Killers true true but the subway cars they don't have Windows that open up so it's not like some killers that we've
00:40:39
talked about in the past that are driving along Country Roads and chucking things out the window right and the
00:40:46
other thing too we've we've hinted at this a lot but it's detective Amato they have every reason to believe that the
00:40:55
killer has intimate knowledge of this dark mazike rat infested tunnels that are the subway system right because this
00:41:04
is not something that most people would be comfortable with doing one the dismemberment two the going to the
00:41:11
location where the body parts are found well again and I know we're talking about a dismembered victim
00:41:20
so it's it's hard to get around having uncom uncomfortable conversation but his head is missing and so again is
00:41:32
it is it a dmer situation where you're going to find a suspect and in in the refrigerator you're going to find the
00:41:40
severed head it's a very difficult case to discuss and for for obvious reasons the other thing to the another
00:41:52
difficult part of this case in the investigation is to think about about the chilling
00:41:58
possibility that ran had been kept alive for some time before he was killed remember we have the statements of the
00:42:06
pathologist he was found on the 17th the medical examiner determined that the remains were that he was killed recently
00:42:14
and yet he vanished on the 14th yeah and again never showed up to eat with his mother wasn't answering his phone it
00:42:24
makes you wonder was he captive somewhere was he tortured I mean the things that his family and friends would
00:42:32
have to what would be going through their mind would be just horrific and there's everything telling us captain
00:42:39
that he wasn't just alive elsewhere willingly he would have met mom for lunch or at the very least called he
00:42:46
would have called Mom if he couldn't make it to lunch so it's really a matter of
00:42:53
determining what happened in the interim virtually no information about this case
00:42:58
has been released by authorities but we do know that the police believe that the
00:43:03
person who killed rashan quite possibly the same man he met on his stoop on that
00:43:09
Valentine's Day right everything's telling you Captain this has got to be somebody that rashan knew and his mother
00:43:16
desire is convinced of this as well and we know this because she told NY Daily News quote a friend killed him someone
00:43:24
he trusted end quote she said at 6 fo1 inches tall and 180 pounds her son was not a weakling who could be easily
00:43:34
overcome and his friend Lamar said the two often went clubbing together and Rashad could fight when need be right so
00:43:43
so he likely went with this abductor walking casually together to the subway well and it makes you also wonder too I
00:43:52
mean is this a hate crime based on his race or his sexuality that is certainly something to be
00:44:00
investigated and unfortunately look we know nowadays one thing that is a fantastic tool in the
00:44:09
Arsenal of detectives are cell phones victim's cell phones and Ran's cell phone would be of great interest to this
00:44:19
case of course but we don't know much about what the police knew and and it seems like we got Mom calling the phone
00:44:30
calling it on the 14th the phone is going to voicemail at some point it's believed that it was dead or turned off
00:44:37
at some point it looks like his phone was never recovered we know the clothing was not recovered right now one thing we
00:44:45
do know one thing that we did find out is that there was one call a phone call that was made from Ran's phone at 7:25
00:44:54
a.m. on that that Monday now investigators have not revealed will not reveal who the call was to well because
00:45:02
it would makes sense if you're going to meet up with somebody hey meet me down you know meet me downstairs and we'll
00:45:09
head up to the subway together or is that call going out or is the call going in exactly and as said the the phone was
00:45:17
never found but we do know that the it's been reported that the police were reviewing all of Ran's telephone records
00:45:25
and looking at computers he might have used one lead that was followed up extensively was a male acquaintance of
00:45:34
Ran's who was believed to be someone ran had planned to go and spend a few days with right NY Daily News citing quote
00:45:44
sources reported that Ran's friends told police that he and a male lover were planning to leave for a few days this
00:45:53
person it sounds to me like this person has been identified and investigated but
00:46:00
has never been named publicly right so it would seem like this is not the killer this police do not believe that
00:46:08
this person is responsible and it also seems like that this is not the same person that ran met with that morning
00:46:15
yeah and look I mean this guy he he was a looker he was very handsome he would not have a problem getting a date on
00:46:27
Valentine's Day or to get somebody that fancied him to to go with him to drop off some resumees there was a person of
00:46:36
interest early on in this case this is when police discovered that ran was in some sort of relationship with a
00:46:43
slightly older man uh this man is in his 30s or was in his 30s at the time he was
00:46:49
an individual who rented a room in an apartment around the corner from Ran's mom's house this
00:46:56
person has never been named publicly so I'll refer to him as the unknown the unnamed man but interesting to our
00:47:05
investigation it seems like this unnamed man vanished right when ran was killed or soon thereafter police didn't know
00:47:14
where this man was only that they had heard from some individuals that the man may have moved South now a high-ranking
00:47:23
police official told the Daily News quote we are not certain if ran ever made it to meet up with this man but if
00:47:31
if we can confirm that he did then this guy is going to be very very important to their investigation but quickly we
00:47:39
will learn that that lead really LED nowhere it also goes against eyewitness accounts it wasn't it wasn't that he was
00:47:48
seen with a older man leaving the apartment building going to the the subway also makes me wonder too you
00:47:56
would think that there would be some CCTV footage of ran going to the Subway or getting off somewhere getting off a
00:48:07
stop picked up by some local business yeah I I'm with you on that Captain um the the thing here is regarding this
00:48:16
lead with this other man so detectives eventually found the man and they determined he was not a good suspect the
00:48:25
thing here is you have this information that rashan is walking with another unidentified man to the Subway and then
00:48:35
later seen with an unidentified man getting off of the subway so to me this goes back to like a lot of cases that
00:48:46
we've covered when you're asking the public hey we need to help identifying uh the the person who he
00:48:52
could have been with where we looking to talk to the person that he could have been with that morning when said person
00:48:59
doesn't come forward and say yeah I was with ran that morning I would uh decided
00:49:05
to hop a ride on the subway myself right when that person fishy that person's got
00:49:12
to become suspect number one and I think I think what police is are doing here yes while you have that individual that
00:49:18
you're looking for you also have to determine that ran didn't go and meet up with somebody else elsewhere
00:49:26
later and when when you don't know who that person that is walking with ran you also have to cover all your bases and
00:49:35
make sure who's to say that this other person wasn't killed and and still concealed somewhere right and we just
00:49:41
haven't found that body and but then it also makes you wonder if your law enforcement did this individual come
00:49:48
from the area that they left right around rashan's apartment or is is this individual from the area where they went
00:49:58
to yeah again you're trying to squeeze that 63-hour window and what I what I really believe looking at this case is
00:50:07
that whatever trouble found ran I believe he was in trouble before he could get to that lunch date with Mom I
00:50:17
believe that that that either happened all around the same time or shortly before because something prevented him
00:50:25
from calling his mother something prevented him from going and meeting his mom that day and something prevented him
00:50:31
from answering her phone calls I totally agree with you now police wondered whether Ran's tax preparer story may
00:50:39
have been a white lie that he told to his mother to explain that he would be gone that morning because they weren't
00:50:45
able to locate any appointment that ran had that morning so they were wondering if maybe he had something else set up
00:50:52
yeah but some of those places you just walk in that's where my went too I'm glad you said that because I A lot of
00:50:58
times people will either just walk in or they will drop off their information their file in advance and say hey get to
00:51:07
this when you can it's February we got some time on this right I got to drop this off at some point it's 2005 here
00:51:14
you go but it would appear that if if he had a regular tax preparer which I don't
00:51:20
think we could call anybody regular he's only 19 that one they may not have been able
00:51:26
to identify anybody that he had talked to in that sometimes you just go to a company and it doesn't matter you know
00:51:35
I'm you know I'm getting my tax prepared from Liberty Tax and whoever happens to
00:51:41
be there that day will be the people that will prepare my tax from Jump Street and you you talked about this a
00:51:47
little bit earlier captain from Jump Street and as they went through the early stages of the investigation the
00:51:54
reality was police police had no idea why ran was killed was it a lovers quarrel was it a hate crime because he
00:52:02
was openly gay was ran tangled up with a bad crowd the answer to that last question was it's an absolute no people
00:52:11
who knew him including his high school principal said he was a good kid someone just trying to find his way that he
00:52:17
wasn't some street gang kid or drug dealer who could have been killed by any number of people he was a threat to no
00:52:25
one one investigator told the NY Times this victim was not leading a criminal lifestyle they would have found that in
00:52:31
their investigation I'm just going to reiterate very handsome kid and so yeah no clear motive of why somebody
00:52:41
would want him dead but you could then say look again could could get a date if he wanted to I'm sure if you're law
00:52:51
enforcement that has to calculate into your investigation to to go there could have been many people there could have
00:52:59
been many people that fancied him there could have been many people that had a a
00:53:05
crush on him and if and if hey it's Valentine's Day I'm going to make my feelings known and if he rejected them I
00:53:13
guess that would be a possible motive detective Jason Palomar who we will talk about and discuss a little more in
00:53:21
episode two he's now retired but he worked on this case for years he told us that there were lots of hopeful leads
00:53:32
early on in this investigation he said they looked at Ran's friends acquaintances online Connections contact
00:53:40
list and so on and unfortunately all turned out to be dead ends those potential leads just simply LED
00:53:49
investigators nowhere I have to be honest in the beginning of my son case I did not
00:54:05
feel that the detectives in the very beginning was really working my sun case I I have to
00:54:15
be honest with that my sun case didn't really start getting worked until detective Amato took it over himself
00:54:26
I'll never forget how this detective came to me and he said you know the people that I've talked to no one has
00:54:36
had any bad thing to say about your son you know when it got called I decided to
00:54:42
do a March you know to keep his name out there to let them know somebody know something whatever you know you know I
00:54:51
gave my email you know I gave numbers that you know people can reach out to I got together with this church and
00:55:01
we used to go out on noan Avenue where he was found on the train tracks there and we were like candles
00:55:09
and you know certain news reports would come out and you know I would say once again somebody knows
00:55:17
something whatever little thing that you think is not important talk about it tell some somebody about it I it I gave
00:55:29
Gatherings you know I sold dinners just you know in his name there was a scholarship fund it was called the
00:55:38
rashan memoral scholarship fund that was started with you know Larry lions and some of his other people we got together
00:55:48
and we was able we were so successful in raising money where we sent other kids to college you know with money that was
00:55:58
donated I tried to do everything I possibly could to make sure that this his case just didn't go cold and nobody
00:56:11
you know wasn't working on it and it just it just it was hard for me it was hard
00:56:19
because I knew somebody out that had took my son's life and the way that they did it they didn't
00:56:30
even allow me to look upon his face again so with all of that it just had me charge I mean in the beginning I was so
00:56:42
angry you know I was hurt I was so many emotions I wanted to know why and you know how could this have happened and I
00:56:55
even blamed myself for a while because I felt like maybe I led him to believe that you
00:57:03
know everybody needs help and because of the work that I do you know I wanted my
00:57:10
child to feel like you know the homeless the weak the people that you can help you can help maybe I made a
00:57:17
mistake about that but I just kept going I just kept going [Music] want to thank everybody for joining us
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