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talk some True [Music] [Music] Crime many of us know the extraordinary power of a well-written
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letter words are the only tool we have to precisely convey the concepts in our minds words are one of the best tools we
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have to express the feelings we are experiencing in both mind and body one can use the extraordinary power of a
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letter to tell you what is in their heart here's a powerful letter that I recently reviewed that moved me and it
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reads I'm writing to you with all my heart and a broken one at that my brother Jason Dale Bolton was killed on
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August 21st 1991 he was 16 years old he was killed in Indiana near the fet Franklin and
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Rush County lines my family and many others believe with all of our hearts that he was
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murdered his kill kers did a good job to make it look like an accident sadly there was not a
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comprehensive investigation by police his killers were drug addicts child molesters rapists and
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pedophiles most of the people that were involved have been in prison for such things in the years after Jason's
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murder we believe the police got their information from the people responsible for the crime and cover up Foul Play had
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to be suspected in his death at that time we believed so but did not know the facts until years later however based on
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the lies told at that time they ruled it in accident Jason my brother was killed
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at the age of 16 years old in a most horrific way the very people responsible lied to the police and the
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police based their concl conclusions on these untruths my family has tried to get this
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case investigated for years we have suffered Jason's death is now on the back burner and left there the facts of
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the case weren't a thorough investigation with the help of others I am trying to get America's Most Wanted
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FBI and others involved I'm begging you for your help please put an end to our suffering for
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justice my brother was with the wrong crowd these were our neighbors and people we grew up with I only want the
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truth he was murdered and we need these people brought to justice as does society his Killers have lived lives of
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hideous crimes they should be taken out of society please do not allow them to continue their ways my family has
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suffered all these years since instead of them they have made a mockery of our justice system I ask again for your help
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in this matter please help us find Justice I have documentation to support my beliefs which I long to share if you
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will find it in your heart to investigate I pray that you will put me in touch with the right people I have so
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much to share I need someone with an open mind heart compassion and empathy my desire is for the truth to come out I
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have no problem forgiving law enforcement for their mistakes that is not what this is about as we made our
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mistakes in Jason's life as well please allow your heart to open up an honest investigation into Jason's death this is
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all we ask what you just heard are portions of a letter written by one of Jason's
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family members someone who's begging for help help this is true C [Music] garage this week we have a case for you
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that is unique in many ways I have said time and time again on this show that all of these cases are unique
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they are all very different from one another if the case is featured here in the garage it is a story that must be
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told this story is tragic no matter what your opinion of the case is it is most certainly one that bears further
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examination Jason Dale Bolton age 16 was killed August 21st 1991 that was a Wednesday he was out
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that night attending a party with a bunch of his friends or at least people that he believed to be his friends he
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was killed in the dark early morning hours of August 21st 1991 his death was ruled some sort of
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freak accident to put it plain and simple it was said that a bunch of youngsters were out partying all night
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long they had all had a bunch to drink some of them took drugs or at least smoked a little marijuana and then a
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traffic accident led to the death of Jason Bolton he was the victim of a good night
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which led to a very bad morning that is what the law was told and that is what they believed and a Coroner's report did
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nothing to change that Jason's death was ruled an accident of the vehicular variety Jason was killed after being
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struck by a car on a County Road in fet County Indiana in the dark of the night well like we said Jason Bolton was 16
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years old but who was he leading up to this night in question that's right Captain he was born just 16 years prior
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in Connorsville and was a lifetime resident of Laurel Indiana Jason Bolton attended Laurel Pentecostal church and
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as a little boy Laurel Elementary and then Brookville middle school and this is a very small community very small
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rural community Jason was survived by his parents Gary and Margie Boer and his grandparents Luther and Alpha
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Raider he's also survived by his two brothers and four sisters now sadly when someone passes away at such a young age
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typically their obit will list many more survived by names then preceded and death by and Jason's list 10 as survived
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by and zero in the other column Services were to be held the day after the obituary was printed up in the Thursday
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August 22nd 1991 edition of the Palladium Item newspaper Services were held Friday August 23rd at the Laurel
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Pentecostal church with the Reverend Ed cely officiating burial is in the Laurel
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North Cemetery and as sad as it was that is how it was and how it would be for a
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couple of years but Jason's family they were never fully satisfied with the explan
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that they received from law enforcement and others about Jason's death and the events of the night leading up to his
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tragic end for starters the family was told that Jason was walking to his father's home after a party well on the
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surface Captain this may sound reasonable however the family says not only did Jason not reside with his
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father the two had little to no relationship at all Jason was a strange from his father right Jason lived with
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his grandparents and if Jason was intent on reconciling with his father well then
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that would have been surprising news to most if not all of Jason's family right and basically what law enforcement is
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saying is Jason's out partying with some friends he's intoxicated now he's looking for a place to stay they believe
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he was heading uh on foot to his father's house and a big problem we're going to have here in this case Captain
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is the lack of detailed information in this case the family was told that on this walk from the party to his father's
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residence that due to intoxication Jason and another boy or another young man both decided that it
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was a good idea to lie down in the middle of the road and that the boys must have fallen
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asleep as it said in the newspaper Jason was struck by a car but you hear the previous statements and it's clear he
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was run over this is starting to sound all too familiar isn't it Captain yeah we just need a one Bill Clinton and a
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one FY Malik well it's one thing to be intoxicated in walking on a dim Road and possibly being struck by a vehicle
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driven by somebody that is also intoxicated but it's pretty farfetched for me to hear a story where you go well
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they were so intoxicated and so tired that they decided well we'll just uh lay down on the road for a while right I'm
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I'm not very proud to report that in my teenaged years I had a lot of friends the not very proud part is some of them
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were quite dumb some of them were quite creative and some of them regularly intoxicated however I did not have any
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friends that were the perfect combination of all three I did not have a friend that was dumb enough creative
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enough and drunk enough all at the same time that he would decide that taking a little snooze in the middle of a county
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road is a good idea especially in the dark all right let's go through the official record here this is from the
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coroner's report the coroner at the time Captain is a man by the name of Joseph Todd and we also have contributing to
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this report or the information in this report is Deputy Sheriff Murray and Trooper Todd
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fields and it's stated in the report that the time of death for Jason Bolton is listed at around 300 a.m. the time
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pronounced death is at 4:20 a.m. and the circumstances surrounding the death is as follows It is believed that the
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deceased and a friend and he is listed here we'll just give his first name Timothy had been visiting and drinking
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beer they they decided to walk to the deant father's house on County Road 750 South upon doing so it is believed that
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the two boys became tired and sleepy due to alcohol and the late hour and stopped
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to rest it is believed that the boys fell asleep or passed out on the county road and were in the roadway when a
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vehicle driven by a one Mr Grim Came Upon them Mr Grim told Trooper fields that he thought that he saw a person in
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the road and drove left to avoid him this not seeing the second person on the other side of the road Grim's vehicle
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struck the deceased the front left tire struck the deceased in the groin area causing severe trauma and loss of tissue
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the body was pushed down the road for a short distance and then passed over the body crushing the rib cage on the left
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side and fracturing the skull in two places the deceased had no ID on his person and was later identified by his
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sister at the hospital morg the cause of death here is listed as massive internal
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injuries and internal hemorrhaging the body was released to a funeral home at 8:00 a.m. that morning
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the 88: a.m. the morning of this report and the investigation as far as the coroner's report States is done by fet
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County coroner Joseph E Todd yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense to me unless you can prove through like a toxicology
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report that maybe there's some other drug involved where these guys would just you know pull a Wizard of Oz where
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we just going to lay down for a while before we hit the Emerald City City it just doesn't add up to me and if you
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were getting tired why wouldn't you just go into the grass and go to some kind of
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level of safety I mean instead of just going well I'm just going to lay down in the middle of the road look if there's
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no doubt and we know from other information that we've seen there's no doubt that there were substances in
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Jason Bolton's uh body at the time of his death and he was only 16 years old and so I get that kids and drunk people
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make mistakes it happens all the time this doesn't seem like a likely scenario at all even with factoring in Dumb
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teenage decisions and intoxication and the thing here that's missing from this report would be statements that should
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have been if they were in fact taken at the scene when law enforcement arrived on the scene those
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statements here's some issues where you can start to see a problem with this case you don't have Jason unfortunately
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to tell us his side of the story and what took place that night so you were only left with the people at the scene
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well if they interviewed them and I keep saying if because we don't have any documentation that these people were
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interviewed right now I'm not saying it doesn't exist I'm not saying that police
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did not conduct those interviews what I'm saying here is where I'm from and Captain I think you will agree with me
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on this dumb assville when cops arrive at a scene no at all Boulevard or they are out cruising around and they
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see a bunch of 18 17 19y old boys in a vehicle or arrive on a scene and that's the situation as
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well where I'm from they're suspicious of everything M if if they show up and you are 17 to 19 uh young male and you
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got a vehicle you're probably getting some kind of citation even if you were perfectly in the right but because it's
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3:00 in the morning and I smell a little alcohol on you something like that you're you're going to you're going to
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get into some kind of trouble so I'm a little surprised here that the spidey sense of these guys didn't go off when
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they're arriving on the scene going I might want to spend a little time here and figure out that this might not be
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what it appears to be or what these guys are telling me at is because here's where you have some problems the report
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specifically lists that the another guy according to the driver and we're calling him Mr Grim but let's keep in
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mind he's only a little bit older than our victim here we're just calling him that so we do not use his first
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name he states in the report that I saw one person in the road so I swerve to avoid that person and then by accident
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ran over the other person in the road that I did not see okay all right that's your story here's the problem where's
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the person that was in the road with Jason Bolton right that person was not at the scene when police arrived so
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either a your driver Mr Grim is lying or B there was somebody else in the road or
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there was somebody else that was supposed to be at that scene when you arrived and they fled before you got
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there and how many people were in the vehicle at the time when law enforcement showed up that's what's missing from the
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report as well there was more than one person in that vehicle captain we're we're talking this scene should have had
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four to five individuals at the scene when police arrived and we're not saying that it
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doesn't exist but what we know from the family what we know from the community and what we know from the True Crime
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community and that's what the frustration is here is if you're going to rule this accidental death
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then the case is shut and all this information should be given over to the family and so if there are
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interviews they should be released to the public here's the other thing that would make your make you question this
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statement okay so we have the guy one of the people that were that was lying in the road if if we are to even believe
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that that's the way this went down right but according to the story that was fed
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to the police and the police it sounds like they believed it because here we sit all of these years later with a very
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questionable death suspicious death and if we're to believe that story Jason was lying in the road with
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somebody else when police arrive on the scene Jason's dead and the person that was lying in the road was not injured
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and is not present at the scene yeah where did they go exactly but then examine that examine that report a
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little bit more it says that it is believed that the F the very first sentence is that it is believed that the
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dece the deceased and a friend and the friend is named Timothy had been visiting and drinking beer so by
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visiting they're saying they were at a party and they were drinking and that is common knowledge they're being nice here
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by saying it is believed this is what's crazy you got to peel you got to rip through the lines and read through the
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lines of this report you don't have Jason Bolton to tell you that they were at a party and they were drinking he's
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dead mhm you do not have Timothy who was supposedly in the road with Jason at the
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scene to tell you that he was at a party with Jason and drinking he's gone he's not at the
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scene you have the driver you have the driver in the occupants of the vehicle telling you oh they were at a party and
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they were drinking well how do you know that well we were at that same party yeah and we're friends with them yeah we
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know them we're friends with them so all kinds of questions why do you have friends leaving the same party
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apparently going in the same direction they're not riding together it seems it's not out of the realm of
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possibility here Captain but it seems like a major coincidence that a group of a group of two leave a party decide to
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lay down or pass out the middle of a County Road and then a group of two or three leave the party going in the same
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direction in a car and happen to run over one one of those individuals and then the other individual fle the scene
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yeah and if you were able to question Timothy then wouldn't he be the one he's he's like the answer key to this test
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mhm if he can tell us hey you know what we we uh smoked a little pot it made us both feel a little drowsy we didn't
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decide to stop on the road and to just lay down we both started feeling a certain way and I believe that we both
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passed out now if you told me that if Timothy can tell me that then I might be buying this horeshit story that this is
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a just a accident exactly and as far as the corners report goes Captain the only
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witness listed is the driver of the vehicle so he certainly has a dog in the fight to want to tell his version of the
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story yeah cuz it's either an accident or it's a thing called Murder exactly now when you review the injuries to our
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victim here it makes it even a little more even more questionable so on according to the
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injuries here in the Corner's report uh it says body marks and other information
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number one they've listed severe Trauma from Tire okay so number one on the DI diagram of the
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deceased they they draw what appears to be severe damage to the groin area of of
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the deceased and we know from the report that there was a lot of soft tissue damage to that area which to me look I'm
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not going to pretend to to understand the science of the of this whole thing I'm not in in forensics or
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any of that of course but he's clothed lying in the road of course there's going to be damage but
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the way that that damage is described as I don't want to get too descriptive here
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but to to put it plain and simple the all of that soft tisue area in the groin area of our
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victim removed from the body yeah it's a true crime show let you stop pretending
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you know his penis was removed this is a horrible thing and this is why the family deserves Justice that's this is
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why this Boy Deserves Justice when when he's clothed lying in the road there what they're stating by the
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report Captain is that he must have been lying there with his legs open and one of the tires happened to go right in
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there field goal the shot is up it's good right down the middle and I I just don't see how that works
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out making the injuries as they're described and then when you look at the other injuries they list number two
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crushed rib cage left side number three lacerated scalp and skull fractures number four abrasions the abrasions are
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to the left arm of the deceased and number five Tatu of skull and letters on of JD on the body so you would have
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information about the person on here not just the injuries listed at this portion
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of your Coroner's report again think of what are our witness right our our one witness that's listed here on the report
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says that oh I saw someone in the middle of the road or on one side of the road and I swerved to miss them to avoid them
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and I ran over somebody that I didn't see who was lying on the other side of the road when you look at the injuries
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and the way that they played out if in fact the car does go over top of Jason hitting him first in the groin area
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avoiding both legs yes I get that according to the report he was pushed down the road for a
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short distance and then passed over but a lot of these injuries to me don't seem
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to line up with the tracks of tires certainly some of these injuries are from the road
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itself but I'm seeing a report here that that includes a story here and and one and one is not equaling two in
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my humble garage opinion I'm glad you brought up math because like you said we only have one eyewitness account there
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was more than one person there we should have more than one eyewitness account and so therefore the family the
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community doesn't have the full complete story and that onus is on law enforcement
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app [Music] today all right we are back you filthy animals cheers and cheers to you Colonel
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cheers to you captain now we do have to point out something here and we've said this is always a problem problem for law
00:31:28
enforcement and that's why criminals do what they do when law enforcement arrive
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on the scene here they think that they are responding to a vehicular accident a tragic one that resulted in the death of
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one of the people at the scene but you have to investigate further and we have no proof that they
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did any of that and I firmly believe had they done that they might have stumbled
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upon something else now we know that this is difficult for law enforcement it has been since the beginning of time and
00:32:06
it will be for the until the end of days that's why when somebody kills someone in a home they burn the house down we've
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seen how that works out and it works to the disadvantage of law enforcement we've seen that sometimes a wouldbe
00:32:22
kidnapper forces or or tricks a child into leaving a note for Mom and then later it's an abduction
00:32:33
situation we've seen situations where a ransom note is left when no intention of
00:32:39
giving the person back returning the person was was ever involved in the mo for the
00:32:46
criminal so these things are always complicated for law enforcement we need to point that out as we go through this
00:32:56
because they're showing up on the scene and it sounds like we only have two people responding to this scene and
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we're talking about of a vehicle death a roadside death here and or like we said this is a very small community
00:33:13
but this is a tragic accident there should be more law enforcement involved here's the other issue too you have your
00:33:21
one witness he tells you that well the the two people people that were in the road
00:33:28
they were at a party they were drinking well where were you I was at the same party I was drinking um in the the
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person in my vehicle was was there as well right away you go all all four of you came from the same party well first
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off that's a little weird but not out of the realm of possibility here's your other question you know the other guy
00:33:50
that was in the road okay where is he where might I find him so I can get a statement tonight from him right I'm not
00:33:57
saying that anybody's done anything wrong here I'm saying this could be a an accident a horrible accident but I need
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to get a statement from that individual as well I don't know where he is he he fled when we call when we called you
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guys he fled he took off okay well where may he be and oh by the way who was hosting the party that you all came from
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MH I need to talk to the person hosting the party I need to get a list of names of people that attended the party I can
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get that I would want to get a list of names of people that attended that party from the two people in the vehicle the
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driver and the passenger I would want to get a list of names of people at that party from the other guy that was in the
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road supposedly in the road with Jason passed out I would want to get a list of names of people at that party from the
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host whoever hosts the party and cross reference those names and I want to talk to every one of those people the other
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problem here with this case and and pointing and the idea that one of the issues I have with this case
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is you go while these guys went to the same party are they friends and you go actually they are part of a pretty close
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small circle mhm and so the these friends got separated did they attend the did they attend the party together
00:35:18
because if they did then did they leave the party together nailed it that's the most important thing right there because
00:35:25
the rumor Mill in this story has been that there were people at that party that saw these people leaving together
00:35:33
mhm okay so here's here's where I have an issue with everything leaving together
00:35:40
or the other problem would be even just leaving at the same time because if you got two dudes on foot and two dudes in a
00:35:48
car they don't end up at the same spot in the road at the same time nope now if you have four Dudes leaving together all
00:35:55
in a car and two of them end up in the road and one of them ends up run over we have
00:36:01
another problem so that's where these statements and the lack thereof written documentation of these statements gets
00:36:10
in the way of a real true understanding of what happened that night well and I'll repeat we're not saying that these
00:36:17
don't exist they're just they have not been given to the family and when the family has been questioning this
00:36:26
questioning this since 1991 it's a long time the family has received some of the reports and some
00:36:36
photos but not enough to to rally the troops and get another investigation into this case and that's
00:36:47
what I think needs to be done here my my problem is that we've talked about this
00:36:52
time and time again Captain the other killer is time time is the killer of evidence and a lot of time has expired
00:37:01
in this case the the two documents that we have that we can review the information on there doesn't
00:37:09
add up to me the the the injuries as described does not add up the report of the one witness who is the driver we
00:37:18
know that there was a passenger in the vehicle there's no mention of him in that report at all or him giving a
00:37:24
statement and if it's not clear to everybody the one witness that we have the statement from he obviously has an
00:37:33
agenda because if it's not an accident it's murder and he goes to jail and you know I would argue that he has an agenda
00:37:41
even if it is an accident yes given that he's partying that night that's Reckless
00:37:47
Behavior in itself because if they were walking and he didn't see them because he was intoxicated and he hit hit them
00:37:58
he would be responsible for their death but his story is they passed out in the middle of the road it's an
00:38:04
accident because they passed out in the middle of the road they're responsible for their own death we do have some
00:38:10
rumors coming out of this party saying that this group of individuals came together and left together but there's
00:38:16
also rumors that there was a confrontation or maybe possibly multiple confrontation at this party yeah and
00:38:25
this is where the story gets even more wonky because we have these unnamed eyewitnesses that give different
00:38:33
accounts of what may have happened that night at the party and some of the Witnesses believe that whatever happened
00:38:40
whatever type of altercation that may have led to this took place after these four
00:38:48
individuals including Jason left the party together the other version is that some kind of altercation took place at
00:38:55
the party and the four of them left together however Jason left in the trunk of the
00:39:04
car with the other three one a driver and two passengers the story being here that if
00:39:12
it is not what it it was said to be by the people at the scene by the driver of the vehicle and by what
00:39:20
police ended up believing then it is the murder of Jason Bolton covered up by running him over
00:39:29
with this vehicle mhm and what we need again is the statements from the people at this party
00:39:36
because what what the rumors are and what they have been for all of this time is that some type of fight broke out or
00:39:45
a disagreement took place prior to the four of these individuals leaving and then come Sun up one of them's Dead one
00:39:54
of them is being identified by a family member at the county Mor and the other three are sleeping
00:40:03
safe and sound at home in their beds and just so we're clear we have some individuals at this party saying that
00:40:09
they didn't see confrontation so if there was a confrontation it must have happened when these guys left
00:40:16
together then there's another group at that party that claims that there was a confrontation but that confrontation
00:40:22
happened at the party yeah and it it's very weird here too with the coroners report Captain because one of the things
00:40:29
that they state in the coroner report is that an autopsy was not conducted however it stated that a
00:40:37
toxicology tests were conducted on the deant and in the toxicology report it's reported that that alcohol was found in
00:40:46
his system as well as Xanax Xanax was also reported by others or or rumored to be part of the evenings Fest ivities if
00:40:57
you will for that party but I find it a little curious that one would not conduct the autopsy but then send off
00:41:06
for the toxicology report it's almost like well if we can confirm that he was intoxicated then that further bolsters
00:41:18
their story further backs up their story right the of of the statements that we did get the statements that we did take
00:41:25
that night well he was messed up and he laid down in the middle of the road it would make more sense to me if you're
00:41:32
sending off for for Toxicology to also conduct the actual autopsy this is a small area as you
00:41:41
pointed out Captain this is not an area where they're overrun and can and have a backlog of of
00:41:49
people that they need to conduct an autopsy on the the other issue and this is one thing that is good this this is a
00:41:58
horrible story but one thing that is good here is that back in the day and and this this was true
00:42:08
for damn near every County in the this country but at one time you had corners and then at at another time a lot of
00:42:18
that started morphing into you had medical examiners instead of a coroner well the coroner system under the
00:42:28
coroner system you don't have to have any medical background at all you're you don't have to be a doctor in fact most
00:42:35
of them were not doctors especially in rural communities and they were simply either
00:42:41
elected officials or they were appointed officials and we saw that with the boys
00:42:49
on the tracks case with with your boy FY Malik and and all the problems that that
00:42:54
created that he was not uh in in our opinion certified or or he would not hold that position
00:43:03
today all right and then after his his bad reporting they just gave him a raise and gave him a promotion shuffled him
00:43:12
off to a better job yeah great job Mr Bill Clinton so here in this situation we have a very similar situation now I
00:43:20
don't know what the credentials of this Joseph E are but what I do know is he's not a
00:43:28
doctor and I do know that he's a County coroner and not a medical examiner and so where I say there is some good A lot
00:43:36
of that in this country has changed throughout different states and throughout different counties in many of
00:43:42
those States and and I I can't get into all the complicated problems with the old boy the old Corner system uh yeah
00:43:52
but his report might not be that far off true but but his report is not telling us what the intent was and and the
00:44:00
intent really becomes from those eyewitnesses at the party if you tell me Well we had three guys that left
00:44:07
but if you tell me that we have eyewitnesses from that party that said four individuals left but one of them
00:44:13
was put in a trunk just just that alone you're going to tell you're going to have law
00:44:19
enforcement tell me that somehow they release that guy from a trunk uh one of the other passengers get out they decide
00:44:26
to walk ahead uh far enough ahead that they get drowsy and they decide to fall asleep in the middle of the road far far
00:44:36
enough ahead where the the driver and the other passenger then hit them when they're lining in the road it none of it
00:44:43
really makes a lot of sense and and then so when you have these eyewitnesses saying hey they all
00:44:51
left together yes we don't have statements from everybody but the state statements from the driver what is he
00:44:57
say saying happen is he just just outright denying what the eyewitnesses said and that's
00:45:06
why there's so many questions in this case and I just don't think it's fair for the family at all you're exactly
00:45:13
right and I think that's where in fact the problem lies right we you you are right Captain this corner his
00:45:20
report could be the best that he could do however the report what's clear to me is
00:45:29
incomplete and furthermore I what I suspect happened here is that law enforcement arrived on the scene they
00:45:36
interviewed who was left at the scene and took their statements and chose to believe them and did not investigate any
00:45:44
further yeah this case is so wonky donky Dicky Wick and I think that very quickly
00:45:49
had they gone that step I'm not even going to call it an extra step because it's the appropriate step that should
00:45:55
have been taken mhm had they just taken that appropriate step I think they would
00:45:59
have found some witnesses that would have had statements that would make you that would either
00:46:06
completely contradict Mr Grim's statement or would make you question his statement because again if the four left
00:46:15
at the same time this should not have happened it that car was not going slower than the people walking if they
00:46:21
left at the same time in the vehicle together this should not have happened how did the two guys end up in the road
00:46:26
and scratch that how did Jason end up in the road because I don't believe the other dude was in the road at all if all
00:46:33
four of them left together in the vehicle right and then the other version of that story is the four of them left
00:46:39
together and Jason Bolton was in the trunk of that car he's a freaking hostage he's a he's abducted by this
00:46:47
point and he's 16 years old yeah and if law enforcement actually believes this [ __ ] story that they're putting out
00:46:54
then like I said they owe information to the family and the community and and case closed right but you haven't
00:47:02
provided that information you provided some but I I also don't think it's fair in a sense to say well this is uh this
00:47:14
is the report that the police gave us and maybe that was the report at the time that doesn't mean that there's
00:47:20
other police officers that have been involved in this investigation or in this investigation that think that there
00:47:28
might be more to the story but they just can't prove it I mean if you have individuals fleeing the
00:47:34
scene and you're not you're not able to question them at that time or later on when you go to question them they're not
00:47:42
giving you any information it could be simply we think we know what happened we think parts of this story are [ __ ]
00:47:51
but you got to be able to prove it right and I think that you are spot on with 99.9% of that statement and the only
00:48:01
part of it that is weird is I think that you know you're using for lack of a better term investigation what it looks
00:48:09
like to me and I think you will agree with me Captain is not much of an investigation at all and two people on
00:48:16
the scene two law enforcement officers on the scene that night I mean this is horrible it's a 16-year-old kid that was
00:48:23
run over it's horrible if it's an accident it's even more horrible if it's a murder but
00:48:31
either way he deserved the family deserves more than two Law Enforcement Officers showing up and trying to figure
00:48:38
out what happened cuz like we've said over and over you don't have to be the smartest person in the room you don't
00:48:45
have to be the smartest person at the scene but if we were law enforcement and we showed up to that
00:48:53
scene and we think we both uh you know find ourselves to be very intelligent and most of the time we
00:49:01
think we're right about everything but we still would call for backup would still call other people in to
00:49:09
investigate this crime scene or this accident scene and we would get that list of names of the people at that
00:49:16
party list of names of the people at the the scene that should have been at that
00:49:20
scene and we would go and talk to each one of them and that's where I think that there's well also try the beer and
00:49:27
and give it a three and a quarter star three and a quarter bottle caps and I think they did question some of these
00:49:34
people but where are the reports right where are the statements if if this in fact is an accidental death that's all
00:49:42
public record uh especially at this point but it should have been public record to the
00:49:46
family at that time as soon as that that determination was made and as soon as there was no investigating going on and
00:49:56
had that been the case look here's the problem that you have with a lot of these cases okay boys on the tracks
00:50:03
there're there's another very similar story of some adult males that were killed in Oklahoma lying on railroad
00:50:11
tracks here the narrative is that two boys were lying in the road in all scenarios the the the boys or men are to
00:50:20
be passed out so high or so drunk that they just fell asleep in a location that would end up with one or two of them
00:50:27
being run over by a train or by a vehicle right and the problem with these stories is that if in fact it is ruled
00:50:37
an accident we've seen this time and time again you rule something in accident it's very difficult very
00:50:44
difficult for people for citizens to go in and get that changed to go in and get that ruling
00:50:53
changed because many often the time Captain you're not going to get an additional investigation or
00:51:01
even an investigation until you get that changed and the problem here is that nobody
00:51:14
questioned this the family just like boys on the tracks in Arkansas just like the story in
00:51:24
Oklahoma family questioned it later keep in mind they are mourning the loss of a
00:51:30
loved one they are shook to their core they're not thinking clearly they're not questioning
00:51:38
Authority in the moments the minutes the hours after the death of their loved one
00:51:43
no they're hurt they're heartbroken and there's no media there's no newspapers there's no reporter
00:51:52
sniffing around going uh you know this is something that we should report on because it was a murder it was a
00:51:58
homicide no with an accident they typically write it up in the newspaper once they tell the story on the news
00:52:05
once and everybody starts the grieving process and then we move on so then there's no documentation when
00:52:13
you try to go back back retroactively and figure out what may have actually have
00:52:20
happened there there's there's nothing for you to review yeah cuz it's Poss that this was an accident it just didn't
00:52:27
go down the way the person responsible for the accident is telling us it went down cuz think about it maybe he left oh
00:52:36
these guys were being [ __ ] so I let them out of my car and they took down the road they took off down the road
00:52:42
well we stayed in our car for a while and drank some more booze and and did some more pills and then we took off and
00:52:49
I passed out at their wheel but I think there's a bunch of stuff in this case that would easily be able to tell
00:52:57
us some answers one did they go to the party together right did they leave the party together when they
00:53:06
left where in the vehicle were these individuals like you said if two took off on
00:53:13
foot and two took off in a car well did they leave at the same time or not and then also why don't we have a a
00:53:23
statement from the other boy that supposedly was passed out in the middle of the
00:53:28
road exactly and again I'm not to just keep going over the same information here why was the party never
00:53:35
investigated why were those individuals not statements requested from those individual that's because there's only
00:53:42
two law enforcement officers that showed up and they didn't call anybody else and
00:53:45
it was late they got tired they decided to lie down in the middle of the road and take a nap hey you can't call
00:53:51
anybody in we'd have to pay them so the other thing too here captain is we have the time of death listed at about 3:00
00:53:58
a.m. uh what we do know based off of information that we've received is that it is believed and underline this a
00:54:08
couple times because it is firmly believed that an hour to possibly closer to 90 minutes expired before 911 was
00:54:18
called so one why the delay two well you have to have a delay to get your story stream right two according to
00:54:27
the information that's out there is that the the caller did not give their name okay I get it panicked situation but if
00:54:34
this information is correct and you've had 60 to 90 minutes you should not be fullon Panic at this point you've had
00:54:41
some time to recoup before you called so the name of the caller was never given and I guess the description of
00:54:50
where they were to respond to this accident was incorrect as well well now that could be completely coincidental
00:54:58
right that could also be uh another measure taken by the perpetrator of somebody who's trying to cover up other
00:55:07
crimes you got two scenarios here as far as the 911 call is if if this is called
00:55:11
in like you said 90 minutes later well if it's called in by a a passer by maybe that's the reason why the location
00:55:20
wasn't correct because it wasn't from a local then that means the person that ran over wasn't the caller wasn't the
00:55:29
caller so unless they're injured beyond the ability to go to a phone and call right that's another big question
00:55:37
mark and here's the thing too Captain I I want to try to really direct this the the direction that I think that this
00:55:46
should should be heading here and should have taken should have headed in 1991 maybe call more than one officer to come
00:55:55
well but on top of that I don't I don't necessarily look at this and go well this was a police cover up I think that
00:56:03
this was just not investigated I think that they responded to something else and I think that they
00:56:10
believed when they arrived what they were hearing and I I think often times when you are told what the call is and
00:56:20
you are racing towards a scene and you're told why you are going to that scene sometimes you already make it up
00:56:26
in your mind that that's what I'm going to see and witness once I get there and I think they hear this the the one
00:56:33
witness statement maybe two but we don't have any record of a second witness I think they believed it and I think that
00:56:39
they didn't do any type of investigation to confirm or refute the information that they were given by people at the
00:56:48
scene and I think the toxicology report then backed up what they believed happened
00:56:55
so I think that this is not a police cover up I think this is what you you have uh criminals and in a murder that
00:57:02
took place and the criminals covered it up and unfortunately law enforcement fell for it yeah I agree with you on on
00:57:11
some level but I I do think there's there's two paths there's there's the path that law enforcement gets there
00:57:20
they're they're told this story they buy it for the most part this is the story that then they are
00:57:28
able to explain it away to the family but that doesn't mean that there isn't doubt in their mind but but if they went
00:57:37
down two rabbit holes one let's go down this rabbit hole that it's accident okay
00:57:41
we got all this information let's go down this rabbit hole that it possibly was a murder well I thought I think
00:57:49
because of the eyewitnesses fleeing and not talking to them and not talking to the people at the party the investig the
00:57:56
investigation just doesn't go anywhere it hits a dead end so it's uh but it sucks because I I
00:58:05
think they left way more questions for the family than answers exactly that's exactly right and again to point out
00:58:13
another problem here and one that's been corrected the coroner is not an a medical examiner in this situation we do
00:58:21
know that this corner has come under Fire more than once for his findings or lack thereof currently his term is over
00:58:29
and he cannot be reelected and in fact the laws in Indiana have changed and now require uh that the person in charge to
00:58:38
be a licensed medical examiner if you want to further understand the intricacies of
00:58:47
the problems of an elected coroner or an appointed coroner versus that of somebody with a a a degree someone
00:58:55
that's a doctor someone that's a licensed medical examiner I would encourage everyone to check out the
00:59:00
kadaver king and the country dentist a true story of Injustice in the American South uh that is by Radley Balco and
00:59:10
Tucker Carrington uh they they spent a good deal of time explaining the problems with that situation in other
00:59:20
situations uh throughout this country and in fact uh primarily in the in the South now according to a website that
00:59:29
unfortunately does not exist anymore and I don't understand why it doesn't exist anymore uh but per the
00:59:37
justice for Jason Dale Bolton website the cause of death at some point was changed from accident to quote unknown
00:59:49
or unknown cause end quote with the investigation listed as on going but from what we've been told
00:59:57
Captain even though that has been changed I don't know when that change occurred to me I believe it was around
01:00:06
four to six years after the death so to say investigation ongoing I sit here in 2023 and I I don't
01:00:16
there is no investigation that is happening in in Jason's case no and that's where I think to me
01:00:24
this leans more to the idea that law enforcement shows up maybe they buy part of the story they're doing
01:00:32
investigations eventually as more and more of the story comes out more and more rumors from locals come out that
01:00:41
they they do look into it more enough to say well this could this could have went
01:00:47
a different way and this and this might be a situation where it's not an accident but this could be a situation
01:00:54
where it is a murder but we just don't have anywhere else to go and until somebody comes forward and one of these
01:01:01
individuals comes forward and says well actually you know I I didn't pass out on
01:01:05
the road so his story couldn't be true because I wasn't passed out in the middle of the road well and and to not
01:01:12
keep I don't want to keep comparing this to other cases but a case that many of our listeners and if you're tuning in
01:01:19
for the first time I'm sure you're more aware of this case than you are of Jason
01:01:23
Bolton's case but look what happened in the west Memphis 3 case we know that in that case you had
01:01:31
three boys three victims three eight-year-old boys and even at the time when they are missing and then found
01:01:40
dead several of the parents were not even interviewed by law enforcement right and and I get it they are looking
01:01:47
law enforcement on that day they were looking at the parents as victims and they chose not to interview some of
01:02:00
those parents right well then that became a big deal in that case many years later when people started to
01:02:08
question the convictions that they got in that case and we learned that somebody like Terry Hobbs wasn't
01:02:15
interviewed formally by police until what was it 2007 and the boys were killed in 1993
01:02:26
well like you said in this case we have the cause of death it's changed years later but I don't see
01:02:37
evidence of in '92 93 94 I don't see evidence of them working any kind of Investigation
01:02:48
right and that I have a problem with I I don't think you have to get it right right right away and we're all human so
01:02:57
we make missteps yep but go back double check your work find find these individuals that
01:03:09
you weren't able to talk to and talk to them you know there has to be with with such a small community and so many
01:03:17
people involved because as far as we know other than Jason we believe that there's
01:03:25
another three individuals at that crime scene or accident scene so where's the investigation well
01:03:37
and the thing here too captain and many look many great people over time has said a similar quote in different
01:03:47
ways but I believe it was John F Kennedy who said that an error only becomes a mistake once you refuse to correct it
01:03:56
and that might be what we have here in the situation they made an error as you said they're human like the rest of us
01:04:04
but going back and refusing to correct it is Injustice and your job is to uphold the law protect your citizens and
01:04:14
when you when you cannot protect them from certain evils get Justice for that victim and for their
01:04:22
families I urge anybody look the the individuals that were at that scene that day they these were all young men back
01:04:30
in 1991 they are still around they are still in the state of Indiana some of them have been up to no good since
01:04:39
1991 I urge anybody with information to please reach out understand that regimes
01:04:46
change over years reach out to the fet County Sheriff's Office you can call them at
01:04:52
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