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I'm calling from Joffrey's restaurant in Malibu um we have a guest here who is refusing to pay her bill and we think
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she may she sounds really crazy she may be on drugs or something um we wondering
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if someone can come by and pick her up okay well what's the address there it's 27400 Pacific Coast
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Highway and is she a white black Asian Hispanic she's um young black girl she probably in her
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20s okay what's she wearing she's wearing a black T-shirt and I think blue jeans is she with anybody else no it's
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just [Music] turn I am calling I'm a little frazzled right now understand my daughter is
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being brought into the station my tce Richardson has a made it to the station yet and she's been book okay is is do
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you know where she's coming from it's from restaurant out in Malibu and I I didn't even think to get the name the
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manager only the only place we have somebody that's in custody that they just announced on the radio that they're
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coming up is from joffre inic Highway it's the only female that's being brought up to the station as we speak
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they actually just put on the radio right before you called okay okay I'm I'm her mother and
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are you guys want to book her and then release her on her own recogn tonight because it's dark she does doesn't have
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a car and I don't want her wandering out I'm I'm totally just taking a back cuz this is so out of character for her and
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you'll see when she comes in she she's well spoken I think the only way I will come and get her tonight is if you guys
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are going to release her tonight if going to be held in custody for some type of arraignment tomorrow then I will
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wait until tomorrow she definitely has no place you know I mean she's not from that area and I would hate to wake up to
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a Morning Report girl lost somewhere with head chopped off so I guess I would have to come and get her oh my God yeah
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we're in agur Hills the only thing is at least in the station here she will be separated so nobody's going to be with
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her uh so at least that's you know the plus thing so you don't have to worry about her safety oh yeah no I feel safe
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with her being in Cy it's being released but I'm worried about it's it's crazy out
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[Music] here in 2009 we have a 24-year-old woman who's briefly detained by deputies for
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not paying her bill at a restaurant we have no idea why she didn't pay this bill but the events of this evening
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probably could not get any stranger in my opinion she's detained by the sheriff's department yeah she's held
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there for a couple of hours and then she's released after midnight now the key here though is she's released
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without a vehicle without a cell phone no purse no money no provisions and they just let her off wandering out into the
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darkness in an area that she's unfamiliar with she may have been spotted trespassing hours later we're
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not convinced not 100% sure but shortly after that if that was her she disappears yeah diving into this case
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this week it seemed like you know when you dive in you're trying to get some answers and it seems like all I got was
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more questions well you know I I agree with you when I first dove into this lots of questions lots of questions and
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I still have plenty of them and we'll go through all of those as well but you and
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I have been looking at this case for over a week now and I do think we have some answers here that we're going to
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present tonight um quick a little background here who are we talking about we're talking about 24-year-old myrice
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Richardson um she grew up in the suburbs east of LA with her mom and her stepdad
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uh her father and grandmother lived in nearby South La she graduated with honors from Cal State Fullerton with a
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degree in Psychology in 2008 uh she had been working doing some clerical work for a shipping company and on Friday
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nights she worked as a go- go dancer in Long Beach now this was a lesbian club uh her dancing name was
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Hazel now the day in question here is September 16th 2009 this is a Wednesday myrice is driving her 1998 Hond Honda
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Civic down Pacific Coast Highway yeah when she decides to stop at a place called joffre's This is regarded as an
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upscale restaurant near Malibu so it's a bit of a Swanky place and I hear the big
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attraction at at joffre's is the wonderful views of the Pacific when she arrives well they have
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valet parking at the restaurant so we all know the drill right you pull up and sometimes there's a line of cars and you
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got to wait for the valet to come up to you and greet you um the valet does come
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up and greet her correct yeah so he comes up and greets her and he's got other things to do he's got other cars
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to shuffle around and by the time this is just within minutes but by the time he gets back to her car to move her
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vehicle she's no longer in the vehicle and he finds her sitting in his vehicle of all
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places his vehicle is parked nearby and he said that he had left the door open uh but when he discovered her in his car
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of course you know he wants to know yeah why the hell are you in my car what are
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you doing in my car yeah so and she seems to be rumaging through like CDs and stuff and starts making comments to
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him about the CDs and stuff that she's finding and later he would report you know what she was wearing and he he
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described her as wearing a rosarian style hat a long sleeve white shirt under a Black Bob Marley short sleeve
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shirt and she was wearing you know like distressed jeans or I don't know maybe they were tore up jeans with Van shoes
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same thing in a pink belt uh the valet ask her of course what she's doing in his car and uh she replies it's
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subliminal uh what does that mean well it's subliminal that's now my my answer for anytime I get caught doing something
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strange subliminal man uh and then this is not real clear but she also says something about uh she's avenging the
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death of Michael Jackson who you know so this is 2009 Michael Jackson died June 25th 2009 but still a very strange thing
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to say say uh she does give him the keys and then ask if vanessa is here the valet does not know whom myrice is
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asking about uh she told him to keep an eye out for a girl with tattoos on her arm strange thing to say to somebody
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that you don't know or that doesn't know Vanessa and then you go into joffre's and then you ask for a table for one not
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a table of two but anyway strange then you sit down you order steak and some wine and you enjoy your meal she's
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inside she's sitting alone she orders a cocktail she orders a steak and nearby her there's a table of seven and she
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goes over to the table and she sits down and joins in the conversation uh she does return to her table at some point
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to eat but then goes back again to the Sev toop and sits down mitrice tells them she is going to Hawaii and she
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would contact them when she arrives uh the seven diners leave J joffre's and shortly after matrice goes to leave as
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well and the manager confronts her about her unpaid dinner Tab and this is amounting to a grand total of $89 yeah
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expensive place and MRI states that the other table should have covered her check the manager tells her that this is
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not the case they did not they're you know they didn't cover it and she is responsible and MRI says that she is
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from Mars and maybe she could settle her debt with with sex um she pulls out a joint
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and then a staff member at the restaurant calls the Lost Hill sheriff station so there's a lot of questions in
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my mind right now like one why is she there why is she at this restaurant why is she 45 minutes away from her uh house
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and and this is an area that her family claims that she's not familiar with but as we all know you know my parents don't
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know every place that I go to or places that are familiar to me MH so maybe they're just not familiar with the fact
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that she goes to Malibu often right um but it's very odd that she talks to this valet guy and says hey well is Vanessa
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here okay so there's a couple things she's assuming that the valet knows Vanessa so one one of the things that I
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think is was she meeting Vanessa as a as a date cuz she was open lesbian was it it was it a date was it just a friend or
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was Vanessa somebody that worked there and maybe that uh maybe myri actually visited this restaurant multiple times
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we don't know that you know what I mean and so when he says well I don't know who you're talking about or maybe she
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had the wrong location right you know this is an area she's not familiar with maybe she stopped at the wrong
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restaurant you know she's given directions something and she thinks she's at the right place very possible
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and that's why I'd want to know what the cell phone records were before all this
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because you know what again what if she's meeting Vanessa that works at a restaurant and so she goes and stops in
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the restaurant and thinks well I'm just going to go get a table and my friend works at the restaurant and she said
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come down meals on me well and here's the thing too about her interaction with the valet so there's a lot of red flags
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there right it sounds like everything that she did and said to the valet sounds to be crazy talk however if you
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take away a couple of those actions some of it's not crazy talk so had she not sat down in his car and had she not said
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anything about Michael Jackson's death her just asking about a Vanessa would not seem crazy just because he doesn't
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know who she is yeah and second of all when when she says MH keep an eye out for a girl with tattoos
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on her arms well that sounds crazy too however what if the van she thought she's meeting a Vanessa and she's just
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letting the valet know oh he doesn't know who I'm talking about keep an eye out for the girl with tattoos on her
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arms Vanessa has tattoos on her arms right right you know so those last two things sound crazy unless you take away
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the Michael Jackson and the the sitting in the vehicle yeah or like you said if she's at a restaurant that Vanessa works
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at then you know she missed one phrase what if it was is Vanessa here I don't know who Vanessa is the girl with the
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tattoo she works here then the guy could have said n Vanessa doesn't work here and then maybe she would realize I'm at
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the wrong place either way she sits down and and and we don't believe that she's
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there to meet Vanessa mainly because the hostess says she asked for a table for one right but like we all know they
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don't make some table where you sit in the corner and just stare at the wall you know it's you can ask for a table
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for one but that's really just going to be determin how many menus you get right
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right so I mean oh so okay so she ask for a table for one then she sits down now I find this odd because I'm not one
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to go over and just talk to a group of people you know yeah yeah I mean you could see talking to one person or or
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but but a a group of seven yeah and and the strange thing here though is it sounds like she just
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went over and sat down and joined in mid conversation it's not like she walked over and introduced herself and asked if
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she could sit down it sounds like she just there happened to be an empty seat and she just went over and took that
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seat and talking like she knew the people now the valet did come in at some point and tell the hostess hey that girl
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that came in by herself she's she's a little weird so so the staff is on a little bit of heightened awareness of
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what's going on here this table of seven they don't know anything that's weird they just see this young good-looking
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girl that comes over to their table and sits down and starts talking she she she's well spoken she has a jovial
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personality um they probably didn't want to kick her off of the table but somebody at from the staff did drop by
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at some point and kind of check in on the table to make sure every you know is everything okay well you worked in a
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restaurant and so like there was probably times that people came up when you had like a kind of weird customer
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and said hey guy at table 7 kind of talking to himself you know what I mean like just like small talk is that what
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goes down well the the restaurant that I worked in and I worked there for quite some time but usually the weird
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customers were repeat customers uh that they would often come in by themselves or just one
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person they were regulars so you always knew how to handle the situation so if you saw them you know talking with
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another table it didn't you didn't really care cuz you'd seen them do it a hundred times before and you knew they
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were harmless they're a bit annoying but they're harmless now uh there are two different accounts here uh when you when
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you listen to uh when you listen to my tesa's family talk about how this restaurant thing went down they
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explained that they think that maybe she thought that the the table was going to
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buy her dinner that that they believed that she she didn't placed the order until after she had gone over to the
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other table talked with them for a while uh somebody at that table did say something to the fact like well aren't
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you going to eat right and and they said well she being a young attractive woman
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might have believed that they were offering to buy her meal yeah and so she was under the assumption that they were
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buying I kind of take expensive I kind of take it more as you know oh aren't you going to eat like
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kind of a reminder to go back to your own table like in a very polite way trying to be polite about it so but but
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that's also makes sense because when they when she goes to walk out and they say hey ma'am are you going to pay your
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bill she says well the other table's going to take care of it right and so again this is so strange because she
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doesn't have her ID on her she doesn't uh you know on her person you know and she doesn't have her wallet so she has
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no way of pain right on her person and then there's a couple accounts where it says that some of the staff members
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offered to pay her bill yeah but the manager was like No And I wonder if that's just a I mean I I hate to say it
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but I wonder if that partly is just a race thing well uh the from what I heard was the manager thought that she was
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intoxicated because of the way he Bill well just Sheriff's Department going her in and he didn't feel
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comfortable with her getting in a car and driving off okay um so he thought he was looking out for her is what he says
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after the fact that that he wasn't going to let them cover the bill yeah I buy that some but what we'll find out later
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is that you know he has her car towed mhm right so if you're really trying to help her out then yeah you don't mind
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the cops coming and taking her away and then she doesn't have to drive cuz she's
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drunk uh but you're not going to tow her car so she has to pay the towing fee in
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the inpound lot but I think a lot of this stuff is hindsight and he's like oh well I was just trying to help her yeah
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right so but it's strange so they they offer to pay her a bill he doesn't let her do that uh she's acting a little
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strange like you said and there's I I haven't heard any accounts uh of her fumbling through her pants and and and a
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joint falling out well what what I said she pulled pull out a joint but the the account I actually heard was that she
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opened up her Pockets to show that she had no money and in the course of that a joint fell out um now but you mentioned
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something leading up to that of her pulling out the pockets was you had you had seen something where where the
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account was that she said busted you know right yeah yeah when when she's asked how are you going to pay for your
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bill or no they're not covering your bill you need to settle up and then she said yeah I'm busted and I actually took
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it a different way rather than you took it as oh well you caught me you know I thought I was slipping out the door and
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you caught me I actually took it as I'm busted as in I have no money and then pull open the pockets to prove that
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you're you know your wallet's busted you have no money yeah it seems like she's kind of just joking around with the
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staff trying to get out of it which I I don't know I mean I I don't see that as being crazy or manic or bipolar or
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anything like she seems to be like coherent but like you said the manager is thinking that that she's drunk right
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so now we're waiting for the cops to show up and I think U my tree starts taking this a little more serious well
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the thing here just backing up just a second where she does say that I'm from Mars that now that's extremely strange
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because it doesn't seem like she's working towards solving this issue of there's this unpaid bill you know what I
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mean I I wouldn't go say I'm from Mars I would figure out a way that it's all subliminal man right but can but can I
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make arrangements for you to pay later can I can we work this out somehow I do believe yeah but you also said that she
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offered sex yeah but I think that might have been a joke I oh I think it was a joke yeah I I think she was kind of
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joking like oh what am I going to do here you know you want me to wash some dishes you want right yeah want me to
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give you a hand job in the lobby I it sounds strange but I kind of think thought of it as a joke uh during during
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the course when they're waiting for the sheriff's department to arrive the the manager says that myri seemed to be
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confused and almost like she was in some kind a trance from time to time uh the sheriff's department uh they arrive they
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sent out some deputies to joffre's to check on the situation mitrice is now telling the hostess that she had been
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watching a soap opera and God had told her to take the afternoon off wow mrie said that she had no parents but she did
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have a great grandmother so the restaurant decides at this point well let's call her great grandmother and ask
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her if she would like to help out her her great granddaughter and pay the bill and of of course the great grandmother
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answers the phone and she does want to help out her her great granddaughter uh she gave she gave the um credit card
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information correct well let me take this over real quick because she gives her credit card information and this
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goes back to the idea that this manager is he's so helpful he's just trying to help my treats right mhm so the the
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great-grandmother which is 80 some years old says hey here's my credit card information and then they say well we
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can't take the the payment right because they require a signature right which I which I get uh but the fact that you
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want 80 some year old lady to drive down which I I don't know how far is away from the great grandmother 45 minutes or
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so um which again again take the credit card and say hey look come in in the next few days and and and sign it and
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we're good to go um also you could run it as probably a debit or something there's probably all these different
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ways and then the whole thing was that they wanted a fax they want the grandma to send a fax and the Grandma's like I
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got fax machine right right so now you have the situation where the bill needs to be paid the cops are on their way the
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grandma can't help out mitrice is there by herself and now the cops are coming in MH yeah so they send it's about 900
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p.m. when the deputies arrive and there's three of them so I mean this sounds to me like a slow night you heard
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the 911 it's not you know it's doesn't sound like she's you know she's referred to as
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there's a guest here and she's refusing to pay her bill but but the the person calling the waitress or the hostess
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calling doesn't seem to be like there's any kind of big uh commotion going on you know not violent she's not creating
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a scene um so they send three of their finest out there um and one of the deputies got on the phone with the great
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grandmother and let uh matrice talk to the great grandmother um and so there is some interaction between matrice and her
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family at this point um it sounds like the great grandmother kind of gave up figuring out that she's not going to be
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able to pay the bill and figured out that her great-granddaughter is going to have to go to jail for the night um at
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this point two of the deputies search mitrice's car they don't note that they find her cell phone or her wallet they
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do note that they found her driver's license and half empty bottles of booze so one of the officers and I guess that
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he may have been going off of the booze bottles and the cocktail that she ordered at dinner and some of the crazy
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statements that mitrice is making uh but of course he says that she is drunk so at that point one of the other officers
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administers a field sobriety test and then he concludes that she in fact is sober she's she's not in right she
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passes the field sobriety test then they start asking her other questions like have have are you on any medication she
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says no right because if she's not drunk then then she's either drunk or she's crazy is what the officers are thinking
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MH have you ever been placed on a 72-hour hold for psychological evaluation right again with the crazy
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yeah and she says no uh so at this point myrice is arrested and as you said later
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the car is towed from the parking lot well and I I heard that they found less than an ounce of wheat it yeah Center
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cons Soul yeah it sounded like it was uh uh it it didn't sound to me like it was
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packaged up weed it sounded like it was like you know like maybe you roll a joint and Things fall out it sounded
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like it was little bits and fragments and debris of marijuana right I I don't know if they'd actually hold those
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charges or they just drop them later the fact of the matter is we have a young 24-year-old black female in Malibu that
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didn't pay her bill mhm right they called the cops the cops can't make arrests because that's just a
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misdemeanor and so it's actually a a citizen arrest right on the on the unpaid bill right because the restaurant
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says they will press charges on the unpaid Bill and and and I think again uh with her mental state or whatever is
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going on the the manager probably did not want her to drive I understand that cops show up they find her ID they know
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who it is now matrice Richardson and we think she's drunk she passes the test m mhm but we got a little bit of weed but
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we're still going to take her down to the station and we'll get back to this case right after this quick beer break
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2023 cheers everybody we're back and where we left off matrice she didn't pay her bill the cops came they gave her a
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filled sobriety test that she passed and now they to took her back to the police
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station yeah and her car has been towed as well and at this point her remember she had called her great-grandmother
00:30:18
from the restaurant to to see if she would pay the bill yeah um at this point the great grandmother calls my tesa's
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mother and tells her what just went down and that at this time that myrice is probably being taken back to the
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Sheriff's Department so mri's mother her name is Leti she calls the sheriff's department now remember we heard in the
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trailer there that's her calling the sheriff's department asking you know have you picked up my daughter is she in
00:30:46
your custody and they're stating well she's in route back to the sheriff's department and she's also saying you
00:30:52
know if you guys are going to keep her there overnight then I'm not going to come down and get her tonight yeah
00:30:57
because I feel she's safe Leti has a daughter at home that she's caring for and probably doesn't want to wake up the
00:31:05
daughter and make the long drive to go pick up her other daughter yeah I want to say it's about 60 miles away once my
00:31:11
tce is back at the sheriff's department she's in Sheriff's custody at this point
00:31:16
she is granted her phone call or phone calls uh the only number that myrice has memorized is her great grandmother this
00:31:24
was the person that was called at the restaurant um a log book shows that matrice called her great-grandmother or
00:31:31
at least tried to call her four times matrice is overheard talking on the phone but Mildred which is the
00:31:38
great-grandmother insists that she never spoke to mitrice once she was at the station these phone calls were placed on
00:31:46
a non-recording line the pay phone which records outgoing phone calls was broken
00:31:52
at the time of mitrice's detainment so she's calling on this phone that does not record any anything and the
00:31:58
grandmother is saying we didn't speak to her that night once she has been arrested I have no reason to not believe
00:32:04
her grandmother right again I mean well based off the age we could one assume that maybe the grandma doesn't remember
00:32:12
but that this is such a big thing because she goes missing and this is such a big ordeal for the family that I
00:32:18
do believe that she didn't call her so matrice was calling somebody and that's the big red flag to me was who the hell
00:32:25
was she calling well just to address that real quick I as you said I believe the great- grandmother as well because
00:32:31
the great grandmother she repeats later on the conversation she had with matrice
00:32:37
at the restaurant when mitrice called from the restaurant yeah and it was not a very friendly conversation from the
00:32:43
great grandmother's perspective she basically said they're going to take your black ass to jail um you know well
00:32:50
she's old grandma that's what my grandma would have said the same thing verbatim
00:32:54
um but say Nick they're going to take your black ass to jail well I think Mildred
00:33:01
here is sharp as attack is what I'm getting at and she she does not fumble on having the conversation with myrice
00:33:07
at the restaurant she is saying she may have called somebody four times she did not call me um but here's what I think
00:33:13
happened here Captain I think that maybe the great grandmother that might be the
00:33:17
only number that she did have memorized right right and I think that she may have just been pretending to talk into
00:33:23
the phone you know uh I don't know the setup there but if you're not behind bars or given her state of mind I don't
00:33:31
know well yeah well given her state of mind I mean again there's speculation that she you know hints hints of some
00:33:38
kind of mental illness bipolar maybe she's manic so yeah maybe she is sitting there talking to her the phone and if
00:33:45
and that would you know with evidence that she was crazy but you'd have to be crazy just to be sitting there talking
00:33:52
to nobody yeah you know I mean like that why would you do that doesn't make any sense to me well here's the other it's
00:34:00
it's a bit of The Perfect Storm and we're going to see this from time to time again in this case she happens to
00:34:05
be arrested on a night where the regular phone does not work it's not working it's not recording the conversation it's
00:34:12
the perfect storm it's another big question like you said so many questions here's a question I have okay LA county
00:34:19
is one of the largest jurisdictions in the United States I think it's the second or the third largest so we're not
00:34:25
talking about some po dunk uh operation here right this is supposed to be one of
00:34:30
the better operations in the country we're not talking about a garage based podcast this is also a case that took
00:34:36
place in 2009 okay can we at least get to can we get up to speed can we get into the present here and what I mean by
00:34:45
that is there are so many of us walking around right now that do not have phone numbers memorized we just don't memorize
00:34:51
them anymore it's kept in this magic little box that that's in your pocket or your pocket book and it's with you at
00:34:57
all times and it has all of your contacts in there well one of the faults of the deputies is when they arrest her
00:35:04
they they do not you know they find her ID so they know who she is but they do not find her wallet or they do not find
00:35:09
her cell phone and if they would have found those two things then I believe that they should put that with her
00:35:15
that's what I'm getting at and I think that we need to as a country and and and and these big counties these big
00:35:21
jurisdictions like this should be the ones that lead the way this needs to become a part of regular procedure when
00:35:29
somebody is abducted or somebody is arrested sorry that that they are asked do you have a cell phone or do you have
00:35:35
access to one now I'm saying within reason it shouldn't be like oh I was arrested 10 miles away and my cell
00:35:40
phone's at home we have to go retrieve it no but if if she says my cell phone's in my car or if someone insists that
00:35:48
their cell phone is somewhere within a reasonable distance that they obtain that because you are supposed to be
00:35:54
granted a phone call or a phone calls and whom are you supposed to call if you don't know any phone numbers right right
00:36:02
I I totally I get that but it it it's tough because it's like there's a part of me that feels for the cops you know
00:36:09
you're dealing with this individual that is saying some stuff I mean I'm revenging the death of Michael Jackson
00:36:17
uh the other thing uh what did she say to the the valet driver again um it's subliminal yeah it's subliminal so who
00:36:27
knows what she's saying to them and then so did she even tell them hey my wallet
00:36:32
my and my cell phone are in the car it's a little strange to me though that they
00:36:37
they note that they find her ID that they note that they find marijuana and that they find um half empty bottles of
00:36:46
booze I like to think of them as half full but that's just me um but they do not they don't know that they find her
00:36:53
cell phone or her her purse or her wallet uh did did they it sounds like a very cluttered car I'm just going to goe and
00:37:00
throw that out there so I can understand that they they may not have found it but
00:37:05
I mean what's the procedure here if you are following procedure if you find a little bit of drugs aren't you supposed
00:37:11
to search that car pretty hardcore right wouldn't you think wouldn't you think so
00:37:15
that that's yeah you think and not only that you're picking up a girl and you're
00:37:18
not really sure why you're arresting her you know what I mean we know citizens arrest right we know she didn't pay her
00:37:24
bill but you can't you can't figure out why she's talking the way that she's talking she's not drunk she's not on Med
00:37:30
medication according to her and she's never been checked for psychological problems according to her well that
00:37:35
that's the other thing though too is like the family really goes after the police department saying hey you guys
00:37:40
should be more well aware of her condition well the problem is is that you're meeting matrice for the first
00:37:47
time so when you're hearing crazy talk you don't know what the Baseline is you don't know how she normally is so it's
00:37:53
kind of hard to say well she's acting crazy because you don't know what what hurt you know some people just act crazy
00:37:58
all the time you know how many times that cops nurses and people like that you know that deal with the public and
00:38:05
that are servants to the public have to deal with people that are intoxicated people that have alcoholism uh people
00:38:12
that um that have mental problems and they're they're just so used to this you know so how are they supposed to know
00:38:19
how are they supposed to know what myri is normally like yeah but I think I'm going at this from actually a benefit to
00:38:26
no no no yeah yeah so I agree with you on the idea they should have found the cell phone and then once they find the
00:38:32
cell phone they should have brought it to the department and I want to be clear why I'm bringing this up because I think
00:38:38
this is actually a benefit not just to the person you're detaining but also a benefit to the police department as well
00:38:45
right if this if if you take this person back and they have no one to call who's
00:38:48
going to pay this bail who's going to pick up this person this person may become your problem for a much more
00:38:53
extended period of time than it needs to be and if that person has a phone directory of of persons that are
00:39:00
supposed to know them and care about them then hopefully they get picked up safely and a bail gets paid in a timely
00:39:07
manner and all these things can happen so that this person doesn't end up being your problem well here's what happened
00:39:13
though the the the Lost Hill sheriff's department they figured out how not to make this their problem right because at
00:39:19
at a little after mid midnight this is 12:15 a.m. okay so how many hours after so she's the the the sherff deputies
00:39:27
arrived around 900 p.m. MH so she's in rout shortly after that time okay so this is after midnight 12:15 a.m. on
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Thursday September 17th 2009 right this is according to to several accounts here
00:39:41
jayer sh Sharon Cummings released myrice Richardson uh now as you had said this is about 40 miles from her home uh with
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no phone no money and no Transportation [ __ ] says that myrice refused the offer to stay in the lobby and wait for
00:39:58
a ride saying that matrice said she was going to meet some friends right now we do have to talk about this for well let
00:40:06
me before we move on the let me I want a definitive answer from you who do you think she was talking to is it just a
00:40:13
big question mark for you or do you think she was just talking to herself I think it I think she might have been
00:40:18
talking to a dial tone I think she may have I think she may have called her her great grandmother's number and nobody
00:40:25
picked up and and maybe there's no voicemail set up there and she was just talking to the the ringing phone um and
00:40:33
I don't think I don't it's either a sign of her having a mental break or buying some time for whatever reason uh or to
00:40:42
buy another phone call sometimes you have to sometimes they're very strict about the amount of phone calls they
00:40:47
give you unless you seem to be putting together actions to get You released where you you might be able to
00:40:53
manipulate the situation a little bit and say okay okay well I just talked to my great-grandmother she's going to make
00:40:59
arrangements with so and so and so and so and she told me to call back okay yeah it could be a bit of an acting job
00:41:05
is what I'm getting at yeah it's weird though but to me when you're offered by you know the deputy offers you a place
00:41:11
to stay again who knows we we we only have one side of the story M we you know there there's three sides of the story
00:41:19
there's matrices and then there's deputies and then there's the truce somewhere in the middle but we don't
00:41:23
have matri's side and so she's offered to stay she doesn't stay which then makes me wonder was she actually talking
00:41:31
to somebody in Malibu and was she often in Malibu and was she there to actually meet a Vanessa and was she on the phone
00:41:40
to Vanessa but she was saying it was my my you know I'm calling my grandmother well you say my grandmother because then
00:41:47
they're going to give you more calls but if you say you're meeting Vanessa or your date or your girlfriend or whatever
00:41:53
you're saying then maybe they don't give you as many calls so anyways we're at the point where that they they let her
00:41:59
go and this is like 1230 something right 12:15 and the later you know much later
00:42:06
after the fact the uh Sheriff's Department would go out of their way to bring up that Sharon Cummings is an
00:42:14
African-American woman um because you know they're going to have to defend themselves later because they're
00:42:20
releasing an African-American woman so I think they they wanted to really make that clear to every body it was an
00:42:26
African-American woman that was working the jail that night um but there's other
00:42:31
deputies there too it's not just it's not just the Sharon coming show you know there's other people there making these
00:42:37
determinations as whether to release somebody or not release somebody now the deputies would say that you know once we
00:42:44
got her back to the Sheriff's Department we found that she was well spoken and that she seemed to beware of her
00:42:50
surroundings and aware of the situation and what was going on so we decided because she's an adult and she wanted to
00:42:57
leave we couldn't make her stay and wait for a ride from her mother right uh so we we had to let her go there there's I
00:43:05
have several problems with this okay what what the hell happened between being picked up at 9 p.m. and midnight
00:43:13
that made you go from this chick is crazy to oh she's well spoken and she knows what the heck's going on let's go
00:43:20
ahead and release her well and what we were talking about earlier is we have this idea that these deputies show up
00:43:26
the three deputies cuz it's a slow night but then we give her a field sobriety test because we think that she's drunk
00:43:33
or she's crazy well she passed the test so she's probably not drunk so then she's probably crazy right so it's
00:43:40
really the transfer of power when they have her in custody and then they hand over the custody of matrice to the the
00:43:48
actual jail then it's on the jail and was did the deputies not speak up to the jail enough you know and I'm not look
00:43:57
you know you have to file a report and all that stuff but when you're transferring the person what was that
00:44:02
conversation like because did that conversation happen and then the then the jailers just go well we're going to
00:44:08
let her sit here and see what happens you know because if there wasn't much of a conversation right and there wasn't
00:44:16
this much of a interaction and there was not a hey this girls acting a little crazy well then you put her in a cell
00:44:22
and for 3 hours she just kind of Paces around in the cell it is which is understandable but what's your point
00:44:28
when they transferred custody did they provide the information correctly and if the jail was provided that information
00:44:35
what made them overturn that information because the protocol would be well let's
00:44:40
put her on a watch and then she won't be able to be released until a doctor and it's a Wednesday so you know that
00:44:47
there's a doctor going to be coming in on that Thursday Thursday morning right and then they get psych evaluated and it
00:44:53
covers your ass but again it's it's miscommunication and handing over custody so matrice has been released by
00:45:02
the sheriff's department and then at 5:35 a.m. her mother calls back to the sheriff's department now let's play that
00:45:09
clip Sheriff St yes good good morning my name is Leti Bretton I'm calling to follow up on my
00:45:17
daughter who was brought in last night around 10:30 11:00 okay let me chance through the Jailer hold on please thank
00:45:23
you m hold we'll hold down phille station bomb Garder yes hi my name is Leti and I
00:45:32
called not too long ago regarding my daughter mitrice Richardson how long before a missing person's report can be
00:45:39
filed is it 24 or 48 hours that's Norm well it depends on the circumstances but uh um I I didn't take your call so I'm
00:45:48
not familiar with it did she just not return home after going out she was arrested last night this is the first
00:45:55
time she's been arrested um she's in an unknown area she's never been in she's without a
00:46:03
vehicle nobody can find her and and where was this at where was she arrested at your your facility her name is
00:46:10
matrice Richardson okay do do you know if she's if she's here now or was she released they said she was
00:46:19
released okay and what time was she released um at at just shortly after 12: a.m.
00:46:28
yeah normally I we wouldn't I wouldn't recommend doing one uh that soon um right what is the time frame you
00:46:38
know I I guess probably 24 hours would be reasonable I mean if if there would be some some mitigating factors you know
00:46:46
where you know you would suspect maybe [Music] something right she doesn't know the
00:46:54
area she's never been in your area where where do you where does she live she is
00:46:59
unfamiliar with that area do you think she possibly could have gotten a bus and oh listen my child has never
00:47:07
written a bus no she would not know how to write a bus I would probably wait till you know
00:47:14
early this morning and if she doesn't turn up you can certainly call I don't suspect
00:47:19
anything um bad happened I'm concerned because well first of all I thought they were going to keep her overnight because
00:47:27
she was highly intoxicated um something some some something is obviously going on with her
00:47:34
have you talked to the Jailer and yes yes yes yes I have he said he tried to get her disable because she wasn't adult
00:47:42
they had to let her go I I believe that she is highly depressed um and she she she's in a depressive
00:47:50
[Applause] State you know it could be possible that maybe she I mean there's a lot of
00:47:58
options and I a lot of possibilities and I don't think all of them would be um you know something dire but I can
00:48:06
certainly understand your fears you know being your daughter and all that well I
00:48:12
think she's suppressed that's what has me that's worried you more than just her okay that and the fact that she's in an
00:48:20
area where she doesn't know where she's at yeah does she take medication at all no she I I I believe it's a state that
00:48:28
she's in right now because of just the the weird activi that's been going on what's your name what's your name her
00:48:35
name is her name is MRI Richard okay and your name ma'am La okay here here's what I want you to do
00:48:45
let get why don't you wait a couple hours and and give us some time to kind of I'll go back and talk to the Jailer
00:48:51
and try and get a timeline of when she was released and you know make sure she's not asleep in our lobby or
00:48:59
anything like that and then once you give us a call back in a couple hours she hasn't shown up or made contact with
00:49:06
you then maybe we can do something for you okay and with that um phone call you can really hear the emotion going
00:49:15
through the mother and the and her gut feeling is saying that there's something wrong yeah I mean she doesn't know where
00:49:21
her daughter is she knows that the daughter's been released uh she called while the daughter was in transit to the
00:49:29
sheriff's department and she even says as long as you guys are not going to you know let her out you know cuz it's crazy
00:49:35
out here people get you know she could get her head chopped off I think is what she says and so you hear the concern and
00:49:43
and how scared she is but I will say one thing that I commend her on is she keeps
00:49:48
her composure she's talking to the officer in a respectful manner asking him questions for his advice
00:49:56
um I think that myrice was a well spoken lady and and it comes stems from her family seems like her family is of of of
00:50:06
I don't want to say High Intelligence but they're definitely intellectual and they carry themselves in a professional
00:50:11
manner from from what I've seen and as we heard here on this phone call she's in probably the worst situation the
00:50:18
worst day she could ever have her daughter's missing and she's still being respectful of the officer and asking his
00:50:24
opinion on when the when is it the proper time to file the missing person's report yeah and the proper time is now
00:50:32
yeah you know well for the officer for her she doesn't know any better you know what I mean I get what you're saying as
00:50:38
a parent you you should you should push the envelope but I think what we're seeing here is I I put myself in her
00:50:44
shoes because I can be forward when I need to be but at the same time I do start off every conversation in a
00:50:50
respectful Manner and try to be nice to because I want the uh I always go into everything as you know how can I help
00:50:58
you to help me kind of thing you know I don't want to come in there aggressively
00:51:02
saying you got to do this you got to do that because they might not follow through the only thing is the
00:51:07
disconcerning thing here is with the officer bumgardner he he he can understand that she's
00:51:14
distressed and he says he's going to go back and talk to the Jailer and he's going to work on these things I don't
00:51:19
doubt that he's going to do these and maybe I'm reading him the wrong way I just I just hate when I hear the shi's
00:51:25
department and and I say them particularly because I've I've experienced this in my own life in a in
00:51:31
a much less um severe situation but I've seen a lot of passing the buck with some
00:51:37
of these Sheriff's departments where it's always like I mean he keeps saying well why don't you call back in a couple
00:51:41
hours well is his shift over soon you know is is this is 5:35 if it's anything like columus his shift's over about
00:51:49
seven it should be seven if if they do things they wait way call back in a couple hours when I don't have to deal
00:51:54
with you exactly ex L exactly this sounds like a lot of paperwork well but time and time again it's you know
00:52:00
mother's intuition is normally not wrong and she has this gut feeling that's saying hey something's not right one
00:52:10
it's weird that she went to this restaurant I don't I don't understand the area I don't understand why she
00:52:15
didn't have money to pay for this right this is not like her she's talking crazy
00:52:22
talk okay I I don't know what the hell's going on are you going to keep her no okay good cuz if you're going to keep
00:52:28
her awesome because I don't want her head chopped off right and oh you let her go what the [ __ ] right I I just got
00:52:36
done talking to you and said don't let her go you know and and and that's the issue because like I said the transfer
00:52:44
of power when of custody when when the deputies took her in and then on top of that you have a mother going this is add
00:52:50
a character and and I think if she would have said certain words well I'm very concerned maybe she's depressed maybe
00:52:58
she's suicidal if she would have said certain words if she would have said suicidal that could have been big yeah
00:53:04
yeah it could have been big but I'm not going to put the fault on the mother she
00:53:08
is trying to be respectful you know of of the sheriff department right she's trying to be
00:53:16
respectful she's not going hey you need to do this or you need to do that and they constantly well let's have you call
00:53:23
back again um well I like here and I when I say like I mean I'm being sarcastic here but she asked when do
00:53:32
when can I file a missing person's report do you have to wait 24 hours or 48 hours and his answer is well that's
00:53:39
usually the case unless there's other mitigating factors well guess what officer the mother calling you is
00:53:46
another is that mitigating factor that you're talking about and you can hear her breaking up you can hear her choking
00:53:53
up and and uh and what's the worst thing that can happen You released her she's in an area she's not familiar with and
00:54:02
they're going what's the worst thing that can happen hey we should probably just pick her up let's put out a couple
00:54:10
squads or units right put out a couple units it's a Wednesday it can't be that busy you you set three deputies over for
00:54:20
a girl not paying her bill for a citizen's arrest right put out a couple to look for th morning if we find her
00:54:27
bring her back and her mother will come and pick her up in a couple hours MH and
00:54:32
and and this all this stuff could be uh all this this whole tragedy could have been
00:54:39
avoided if if they would have just got off their ass and did a couple things and that brings us to the next thing so
00:54:46
then we have this uh report about uh a Prowler on on some property yeah so they received that call from from matri's
00:54:55
mother at 5:35 a.m. and then less than an hour later at 6:30 a.m. they receive this phone call sherff station yeah hi
00:55:03
hey this is Smith at Colt Canyon we had a Prowler walking around through the backyard here but we don't know what the
00:55:09
situation was I don't know if you had a unit in the area might do a little driveby or
00:55:13
something okay where's this at this is Cold Canyon like hot and cold in mono um but it's in the back of the
00:55:21
house uh which is right where Wood Bluff hits the hit it's a cold Canyon uh and we just had a strange woman walk
00:55:31
up through the backyard here a fairly large property and she was sitting on the steps right right on the back of the
00:55:36
house here this is kind of a circular driveway and the gates were closed so we don't know where this woman came from
00:55:43
you see the cross was Wood Bluff yeah that's right there there's a a horse trail hiking trail access through here
00:55:48
but we've never had this kind of thing happen before what she look like white black as uh you know a tall slim black
00:55:54
woman with with afro hair but how tall uh well she was sitting down stretched out on the wooden steps in the back of
00:56:00
the house hard to tell but she looked like she might have been medium to slightly tall uh with a big April hair
00:56:06
very skinny I think she was wearing maybe jeans or tight pants with a t-shirt you never you've never seen her
00:56:12
there before no never nobody never does that I mean the people hike on the trail
00:56:15
all the time we you know the trail goes through our property but we leave it open on purpose cuz it's kind of a nice
00:56:19
thing for horses and people and you said she's laying across the she was laying across the steps or she was sitting kind
00:56:25
of sprawled out on the on these wooden steps in back of the house right against the back of the house she since got up
00:56:30
and left uh she's since gone yeah she' been gone about 5 minutes now but as we thought it over we thought maybe a
00:56:35
little driveby wouldn't be a bad idea and what direction were she she last seen headed never saw her once she left
00:56:41
she just disappeared we I moved from one window to another I said to her I holl her down are you all right and she said
00:56:47
I'm just resting or something like that uh but she's certainly gone out of her way to get to that close to the house
00:56:54
cuz the Trail is not that close on the ridge all right we and check the area for appreciate that very much not a
00:56:59
problem sir thank you bye so that is Bill Smith he's a retired KTLA reporter that's the guy that calls
00:57:08
in saying reporting the prowler uh and he lives in Monte Neo which is about six miles west of the sheriff station uh I
00:57:17
do want to clear one thing up because he's a little muffled at the end there and it's a little confusing what he's
00:57:21
talking about but at one point he says that he opened up his window to ask the woman if she was okay and she says
00:57:27
something like I'm just resting and that's when he said he went to another window to try to get a better look and
00:57:34
at during that time she had left she had left the property you know so where he says I don't know I never saw her that's
00:57:41
what he that's what he's referencing right he never saw her the second time he went to look for her right he saw her
00:57:46
there he didn't see which direction she left these dispatchers crack me up though cuz every time somebody says
00:57:52
something they're like what was that again yeah well it's like the first part of the phone call it you like they greet
00:57:59
you but you have to prove to them reason for them to continue the phone call right but we see this happen twice when
00:58:04
he goes well I'm here and then we got a Prowler where you at where are you at and then when when the mother is talking
00:58:11
to the one dispatcher and says I'm calling about my daughter you know myri Richardson and he's like who are you
00:58:17
talking about well not only that I think when when uh Leti is on the phone yeah the call we heard the mother uh I
00:58:24
believe that she's actually speaking with a detective or an officer it's not just a dispatcher at that point that
00:58:30
bumgardner guy is is an officer of some form you know he's not just some dude paid to answer the phone maybe when you
00:58:36
answer the phone have a pad by you don't pull a Nick and not pay attention when people talk I'm not in public service
00:58:43
these people are in public service you are in public service this podcast is a public service you need a listen we
00:58:49
should point out though that it's not 100% verified that this is actually my myri right but we we can assume I mean
00:58:57
the vague description that's given it it matches her very well yeah you know and
00:59:02
when you see her mug shot of that night her her hair is kind of it's not a a it's not an afro I mean look I'm a white
00:59:10
dude from the suburb so I have no uh uh you know African-American hairstyle expert but it's uh but it's kind of
00:59:19
disheveled M you know it's like it's not but it's not I wouldn't consider an afro
00:59:25
but this white reporter is going wow here's this uh black lady she's middle to tall she has tight pants of course
00:59:34
it's such a man thing well I noticed that her pants were tight well if if you look up pictures of mitrice now she did
00:59:42
pageants um so she's you know she's attractive and most of the pictures you will see of her she's pretty well done
00:59:48
up um now if you see the arresting photo from that night uh her hair is quite poofed out compared to the pictures and
00:59:57
I can only imagine that if if that's what her hair looked like around midnight let's say now she's been
01:00:03
released and let's let's assume here because we don't know for certain but let's assume that she made that five and
01:00:10
a half six mile hike to Bill Smith's backyard on foot if that hair was pretty poofed out before then well it might be
01:00:19
it might be full you know Diana Ross afro at some point I don't know no but at the end of the day she has jeans on
01:00:27
this this Prowler has jeans on it's africanamerican lady uh it's Slender and and not tall medium to tall right and
01:00:35
she has a black shirt on which we know that she um myrice had a Bob Marley black T-shirt mm so we could just assume
01:00:42
that it's it's more likely her yeah I think I to me I I feel good saying about 90% that it that it's her and one of the
01:00:51
things that come up over and over in this case is that people say that this call is fishy and the reason why they
01:00:58
say this is fishy is the way that the caller the way he talks to the officer as if he's done this before so a lot of
01:01:06
people say well this guy was probably a retired officer or if it is this conspiracy and that this Sheriff's
01:01:14
Department is in charge of this girl going missing and and they're uh charged they're responsible for everything that
01:01:22
happened to her what they're saying is that they think this call was like a part of the conspiracy and that this was
01:01:29
actually a police officer on duty well we know we know that it was a reporter and that's probably why the lingo is
01:01:36
coming out the way it is because he is a reporter and how much has a reporter dealt with law enforcement yeah
01:01:44
especially if he was a field reporter you know he might be used to being in situations of of stressful situations
01:01:50
plus he also says that they have there's Trail access right by the house and that you you hikers people on this
01:01:59
Trail so even though he said we've never had somebody in the backyard like this before it wouldn't be crazy for him to
01:02:06
think well this is not really a Prowler this might just be somebody that came off the trail and they might be
01:02:11
experienc exhaustion or something like that and that's probably why he opened up the window and said hey are you okay
01:02:18
um and and then when she doesn't seem to go anywhere you know then you know at first that's when he's probably like we
01:02:24
might want to have a have a squad car just do a driveby yeah and I think it was safety for the neighborhood but I
01:02:30
think it was also safety for this individual I think you're right you know like here's this walking path and maybe
01:02:35
this person came off but but but there are walking paths so it's not super uncommon now the question is if it is
01:02:43
her how did she get six miles away now the average person can walk a mile in about 15 minutes right right so that
01:02:50
puts her at about an hour and a half to get that that length and we're talking roughly about 6 hours yeah roughly about
01:03:00
6 hours afterwards so that's about the time or that would be so we have the time doesn't match up no the time
01:03:08
doesn't match up so what I'm saying is that we have this Gap but was she walking on these trails and that's how
01:03:14
she got to this neighborhood a good portion of that travel would have been conducted in the dark uh first off and
01:03:20
second of all this is an area that on especially on foot she's not going to know where she's going you know we've
01:03:26
we've heard her mother say that she does not know Malibu that matrice doesn't know Malibu uh she's not from there this
01:03:33
is an area unfamiliar to her well on the streets there's street signs and things
01:03:37
to help direct you even if you don't know the area if she's on foot and wandering around and again we don't know
01:03:42
that her State of Mind at this time it's very well that she could have it could have taken her five hours six hours to
01:03:48
get to this point the other thing too is how long was she sitting there or lying
01:03:53
there until Bill know outside yeah what if she what if she made she could have made it through
01:03:59
those trails and onto this property you know within let's say two hours and then
01:04:04
she was sleeping right because Bill could been as sleep the whole time and never noticed her maybe he wakes up at
01:04:10
6:15 and just spotted her at 6:30 and he says sprawled out but so my gut feeling
01:04:16
is it's her me too the strange thing here is that he he does more than once say how close is to the house and that's
01:04:26
what he found strange that that you know maybe it wouldn't be so strange for somebody to wander into his backyard but
01:04:31
he's saying she's she came really close to the house to be up on those steps well like like we know with the whole
01:04:38
valet thing I mean she got into a Valley's car I mean that's talking talking about invading personal space so
01:04:45
I feel like uh based off that evidence again my gut feeling it it is my trees me too now a few days later the
01:04:54
Sheriff's Department conducts their first search but they start the search at Bill Smith's house um this is one
01:05:01
thing that I thought and interesting that a reporter brought up because they were using uh scent dogs to to sniff out
01:05:08
and try to track my trees from Bill Smith's house right yeah now this reporter brought up a good thing that
01:05:15
that I would probably wouldn't have thought of on my own here but they suggested why wouldn't you have the dogs
01:05:21
start off at the sheriff's department because she she left there on foot you know she had no vehicle if you would
01:05:28
have had the scent dogs Tracer from the sheriff's department you would be able to make the determination most likely
01:05:34
whether she had actually left on foot or if she was picked up in a vehicle yeah um that that would be interesting to
01:05:41
know but of course they didn't do it in that fashion they started the dogs off at Bill Smith's house and they did find
01:05:48
um they did discover what appeared to be sneaker prints in the front yard um and
01:05:53
their guessing these would have been mitrice's uh Footprints uh and it appeared they say it appeared that she
01:06:00
had been running um I'm guessing maybe the maybe the footprints are further apart than you would expect for walking
01:06:06
there's some way they could probably determine uh the movement of the person creating those Prints but they say it
01:06:13
appears that she had been running uh now remember this area is filled with horse
01:06:17
trails So eventually they lose these tracks they lose the footprints amongst all of the horse tracks well not only
01:06:23
the horse tracks but this is also a walking path so basically all the tracks combined it just got too much where it's
01:06:30
lost so if it is mitrice uh we don't know if at that point if she got in a vehicle or if those tracks were just C
01:06:40
Simply Stamped Out by the horses right and what we don't know is did she get in a vehicle to get to this neighborhood if
01:06:47
if we're assuming that this was her the the AKA Prowler mhm then did she get there by foot or did did she get there
01:06:54
by uh a vehicle and then did she know the person in the vehicle or did did she just was she able to hit a ride cuz like
01:07:04
we said she's an attractive female there's probably a lot of guys that were would be willing to give her you know a
01:07:10
ride oh yeah so and so then she's there but again if you would have if you would
01:07:14
have followed the scent dogs from the police department we'd have a little more clarity on that well let's talk
01:07:20
about LAPD here because we the actual fact of the investigation is that because matrice lived in La LAPD was put
01:07:30
in charge of the actual investigation of her missing person's uh inves so LAPD found amongst other items in they they
01:07:40
went and searched her vehicle and they found these items amongst others they found her ATM card a checkbook and cell
01:07:47
phone in the car they also found journals and after re reviewing yeah that's the word
01:07:54
so yeah they they reviewed the journals and there's several days and what they did too which I thought was pretty
01:08:01
fascinating was they went back through her Myspace which that's dating this case a little bit uh I think she held on
01:08:08
to the MySpace account a little too long but uh Myspace and Facebook and any social media so they basically took the
01:08:16
journal entries and then looked at entries online and to try to and what they realized was there's so many
01:08:23
Journal countes and so many social media that they they started questioning was she even sleeping properly right right
01:08:31
and they're able to determine that from the journals as well they conclude that she may have been sleep depraved for
01:08:36
several days leading up to that day and it's quite possible that she had suffered a bipolar episode that night
01:08:43
now just to be clear that there bipolar is a very difficult thing it's one of the most mental illnesses that it's mix
01:08:52
misdiagnosed most bipolar is and so um and normally to get a clear concise bipolar
01:09:02
diagnosis it normally takes years so there is no she is not being treated for this right this is just speculation that
01:09:10
this stuff was going on and that maybe she was in a a manic or a hyper manic State and so by being in this state yeah
01:09:17
you will be you just will be sleep deprived because you will just be turning your wheels or turning now we're
01:09:23
going to start to see a lot of back and forth from the sheriff's department with
01:09:28
the uh family with the Richardson family because the Richardson family don't they
01:09:32
don't feel like the sheriff's department has done their job they don't think that
01:09:36
they should have released their daughter and they're they want answers from the sheriff's department and they're not
01:09:43
they're not overwhelmingly you know giving these answers they're not don't seem to be working the case to the
01:09:50
satisfaction of the Richardsons uh so I mean what's your stance on that I mean I
01:09:56
I agree that they shouldn't they probably shouldn't have released her based on her actions at the restaurant
01:10:01
based on what the dep deputies thought and then when they transfer the power I just think that was that was the first
01:10:08
fumble here and they should just not have released her I'm with you I the thing I keep going back to is is their
01:10:16
statements saying why they released her we let her go there was no reason to keep her she was well educated well
01:10:23
spoken and she was fully aware of her environment and her situation again I keep going to back back to how different
01:10:30
that account is you know for me to say she's well spoken she knows of her environment yet 3 hours ago she was
01:10:37
saying complete nonsense to the point to the point where we thought she was heavily intoxicated then we found out
01:10:45
she's not intoxicated then we have to ask her are you on medication have you ever been locked up for psychological
01:10:51
problems so it that's your assess 3 hours before either drunk medicated or or psycho you know some kind of medical
01:11:00
issue mental issue right uh and then 3 hours later oh she's perfectly normal perfectly happy normal human being send
01:11:08
her off into the darkness that's that's the big problem and like and like I said
01:11:11
in defense of them it always comes back to me on the that they don't know her Baseline they don't know what her normal
01:11:19
is right so then when you start hearing some clarity coming from her you're just
01:11:23
and again but I I'd still argue that if anybody's looked up much about hyper manic or manic states that people become
01:11:30
very capable of doing what they want to do it's almost like the crazy takes over
01:11:36
to make you look a certain way so you can get out of this and like you said maybe she's talking to herself on the
01:11:42
phone I mean who knows well and you said the sheriff's department they don't know
01:11:46
her Norm they don't know how she would normally behave but guess who would her family would and her family wants to
01:11:53
know well her mom was calling and telling you this is not normal right but her family wants to know you know okay
01:11:59
you've said your reason reasoning for letting her go okay now we know that the jails are typically under surveillance
01:12:07
we want to see the video the video footage of her that evening because we want to see how she was acting we want
01:12:15
to see if she was behaving abnormally so we can get an idea of what we think happened to our daughter do we think she
01:12:21
went wandering off on her own or did she'd leave the sheriff's department and get picked up by some evil dude um and
01:12:28
so there they're they're told there is no videotape they are told that there is no video okay so so this uh this
01:12:36
Sheriff's Department their Jail uh their their phone that records the phone calls
01:12:41
and their log that's broken right and they don't have cameras yeah the here's the exact wording they were told no such
01:12:48
video existed the captain of the sheriff's department Captain Martin was quoting in the Malibu Surfside News as
01:12:56
saying there is no video or tape of any kind well that's pretty darn black and white here right now Captain it's you
01:13:04
can't confuse that statement in any way right no he said there is no videotape no video or no tape of any kind mhm so
01:13:13
let's make this clear there are videos they're claiming that there's video cameras in the jail but those are just
01:13:20
to monitor those don't actually record well they we don't know exactly what they're there for because according to
01:13:28
his statement all he says is there's no videotape of any kind right now uh but yeah there clearly are cameras in this
01:13:35
facility um so you know like you said are they just using them to monitor live action or they using them to record
01:13:43
anything the problem here though is he he makes that statement very clear and what's the strangest part of it is in
01:13:50
January of 2010 the same person Captain Martin then confesses that there was a tape and it is in his desk okay well but
01:14:01
let's break this down this is how it happened so matri's uh mother and Aunt are in a meeting and they ask for the
01:14:09
tape hey they there has to be a tape these cameras can't just be for monitoring right this doesn't add up and
01:14:18
they and they're still during this meeting no no no we have no tape M and then aunt won't let it go proud proud of
01:14:26
her for doing that she won't let it go and then all of a sudden in the middle of this conversation the guy goes well
01:14:33
by the way we do have a tape and and it's not just a guy it's the captain he's in charge of that Sheriff's of that
01:14:41
building well and on top of that on on top of all this it's in my desk yeah I mean if that's not a red flag of we're
01:14:51
trying to cover some [ __ ] up I I don't know what a red flag is right well do you know what kind what that
01:14:58
kind of Honesty will get you promoted obviously yes it will get you a promotion um later that month later that
01:15:06
same month Captain Martin was promoted to com to Commander no Captain friend of mine now this promotion moved him to the
01:15:13
Monterey Park location so his old post at Lost Hills he lived just minutes away for the entire six years that he was in
01:15:22
charge of the Lost Hills sheriff station the promotion took him an hour away and
01:15:28
he was replaced by Joseph Steven uh who note is the first African-American captain at the Lost Hills location due
01:15:38
to technical difficulties it was about 3 months later before the Richardson family was allowed to view the video
01:15:47
that was sitting in Captain Martin's desk so I want to point a few things out here yeah there's a bunch of red flags
01:15:54
for me well I want to cover my own butt here real quick too I I I don't want to give the impression that Joseph Steven
01:15:59
is not capable of being the captain of the Lost Hills Sheriff Department okay I think he I think he can I do I think
01:16:07
it's a little convenient that you replaced him you know that you replace Captain Martin with an African-American
01:16:12
man might be is does this does this sound a little bit like the Catholic church that that takes a priest that's
01:16:19
under suspicion and ships them off elsewhere a little bit um I think that the the sheriff's department was really
01:16:26
not trying to help the family or the investigation I think they were just covering their own butts here constantly
01:16:31
well and then it also leads to the idea that if if there's this technical difficulty so we have the tap in and by
01:16:38
the way it's in my desk but by the way you can't watch it for months and months for three months because you know we're
01:16:43
got to pay some college interns to come in and Doctor up this video mhm I mean that's it's it's it is [ __ ] strange
01:16:52
after the after the video is released to the family uh the family three months afterwards the family states that myrice
01:17:00
looked to be distressed and agitated uh they also commented that the tape the video footage appeared to have been
01:17:06
edited uh and they're citing one one part here is that one second there's a on the footage there's one second where
01:17:14
she is holding myrice is holding a piece of paper and in the very next second the
01:17:19
paper is crumbled up on the floor um the video so you know you want to know what
01:17:25
happened between the time she's holding the paper and then it's crumbled up on the floor and the video also shows
01:17:32
matrice walking out of the station and 2 minutes later a deputy goes out an adjacent door uh the department refused
01:17:41
to release the name of that of course they they refused to release the name of that Deputy they got to wait three
01:17:49
months and they got a they got a doctor up his name and they got to get I mean this case just it's just question after
01:17:56
qu and red flags and is the cops involved or are they just incompetent douchebags I'm not really for sure but
01:18:06
there is a lot to get more into this case and uh you know you just want to stick around and we'll knock out another
01:18:13
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