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crime [Music] sh [Music] August 2nd 2015 wallberg North Carolina sometime around 3:00 a.m. an emergency call is
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placed to 911 the male caller is asking for help he says he is injured his son-in-law while defending his
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daughter the caller goes on to say his son-in-law is in bad shape and very matter of factly adds I may have killed
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him Davidson County 911 what is the address of your emergency um my name is Tom Martins I'm
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at 160 Panther Creek Court and we need help okay what's going on there my my daughter's husband um my
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son-in-law um got in a fight with my daughter I intervened and I I think he's in bad shape we need help okay what do
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you mean he's in bad shape he's hurt he's bleeding all over and I I may have killed him you know all right okay let's
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um back up here just a minute give me your address again make sure I got it right 160 uh-huh anther Creek Court what
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is your name my name is Tom Martin all right Tom give me the phone number you're calling from 20 place I don't
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know um what's the phone number I'm calling from I don't know I'm sorry I don't know
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I'm I'm the uh father I'm visiting I I don't know was he drinking uh yes he had been drinking
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during the course of the day my partner's dispatching out the uh ambulance in the off while I get the
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information okay all right are you right with him now I am how old is he how old is
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he 39 39 all right is he conscious at all no is he breathing I can't tell all right
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what I need for you to do is I need someone to roll him onto his back flat on his back okay hang on he's a big
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heavy man I can't do it is there anyone there that can help you my daughter and she's in terrible shape okay someone
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needs to get him on the back on his back we need to verify his breathing I'm trying lady hang on okay
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just put your phone on on the [Music] speaker okay I've got him rolled over all right
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I want you to put one hand under his neck the other hand on his forehead and tilt his head back put your ear next to
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his mouth and tell me if you can see or hear or feel any breathing yes I I can't see no all right I'm
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sending the paramedics and ambulance to help you now stay on the line the call lasted 14 minutes and 27
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seconds for much of the duration of of the call the 911 dispatcher is instructing the father-in-law and his
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daughter on how to administer CPR to the injured man the phone is handed back and
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forth between the two as they can be heard performing CPR once EMTs arrived the caller and his
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daughter were told to let them do their job the last thing that can be heard is a caller saying Molly Molly come on out
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of there when Authority arrive at the scene it is a bloody mess and the man on the
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floor was Dead on Arrival his head bashed in with a baseball bat the father-in-law and wife of the
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victim tell the investigators that they had killed him in self-defense and the defense of
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another but authorities tell a much different tale this is true crime garage and this
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is the murder of Jason [Music] Corbett at 3:04 a.m. on August 2nd 2015 15 A call came into the Davidson County
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North Carolina 911 call center the caller was a male who said he needed help a 39-year-old man was badly injured
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Davidson County Sheriff's deputy Dave Dillard rushed to Panther Creek Court in Winston Salem when he arrived at the
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home at 3:16 a.m. he found a naked deceased male lying on his back on the floor in the master bedroom which is
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located on the main level Jason Paul Corbett was pronounced dead at the scene at 3:24 a.m. attempts by paramedics to
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revive him were futile the man on the phone was Jason's father-in-law his name is Tom Martin and his daughter and the
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wife of the victim is Molly Corbett and we will get into these two in a bit but Captain I want to talk about the medical
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examiner's report Jason was delivered to the medical examiner in a body bag naked
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save for his wedding ring the August 3rd autopsy report on Jason prepared by the
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office of the chief medical examiner in Raleigh North Carolina we have the report and it concluded the following
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blunt force head trauma which includes multiple lacerations extensive skull fractures abrasions and contusions of
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the head including two large branched full thickness lacerations of the scalp other blunt force injuries scattered
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abrasions and contusions of the Torso and extremities in other words Jason Corbett had been beaten to death found
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clutched in one of Jason's hands was a long blonde hair Jason's blood alcohol level was
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.2% his tox report showed ethanol levels of 20 C mg not enough to be considered drunk but the sample was not taken until
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August 3rd so it's hard to know how accurate this was he also had an anti-depressant and sleep aid in his
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system at less than .5 mg the manner of death was ruled a homicide but we heard his father-in-law say that he was
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drinking all day so do we think that the delay of the testing had an effect on that as as far as alcohol level was
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concerned well I threw that in there for clarity purposes but not being you know
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a doctor I don't know if it actually has an effect on that talks reading or not but I wanted to be clear that it was not
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conducted immediately but we also know that that sleep aids and depression medicine are not a good mix with any
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alcohol correct correct and I and I actually just from a lay term you know from from a lay perspective I don't
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think that that it would have much of an effect on the accuracy of the test but I
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wanted to throw that out there for clarification purposes let's examine the lives of this
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homicide Triad shall we first we have our victim who is Jason Corbett he was born on December 2nd 1976 in Ireland he
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grew up in the jamesoro area of limr City he loved beer soccer and his native land I can get behind all that right
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there interviews with his co-workers indicate that he was a very well-liked guy who was very friendly and easygo
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Jason had been married twice his first wife was Margaret Corbett who had died in 2006 from Cardiac Arrest this
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triggered by an asthma attack she left behind the couple's two very small children at the time this is Sarah and
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Jack after her death Jason had hired several nannies to come into the home and help with the children this was
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before finding Molly Martins who was from Tennessee he found her through a nanny service Molly moved all the way to
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Ireland to take up her new position as the caretaker for the Corbett children this was in 2008 captain and it's my
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understanding that Molly's situation and I'm I'm guessing that it was the same with the other nannies as well but this
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was like a livein nanny type situation yeah so Molly was born in September of 1983 and grew up in Knoxville Tennessee
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with her parents Tom and Sharon and her three brothers the family lived a very nice lifestyle living in an exclusive
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neighborhood and belonging to a yacht club Molly was a competitive swimmer in high school she attended Clemson
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University this for a period of time but it doesn't appear that that she graduated from the University according
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to her online profile she did do some modeling she also reportedly worked a couple of jobs and nannied and taught
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kids swimming lessons in her early 20s she lived in a condo owned by her parents and was engaged at that time in
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her life Molly told 2020 you know the news magazine show that she suffered from migraines and depressive episodes
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she wanted to change she wanted to change in her life so in 2008 now at the age of
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24 Molly quite suddenly ended things with her fiance and moved to Ireland this of course to work for Jason Corbett
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by 2010 Jason and Molly were engaged Molly's father is retired FBI agent Thomas Martins Yes you heard us
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correctly Tom the man who called 911 and admitted to killing his son-in-law by hitting him in the head with a baseball
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bat was an FBI agent for 31 years he worked as a supervisor for 19 years and as a special agent in charge of the
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Knoxville office at the time that Jason was killed Tom was retired but still working worked as a Counter Intelligence
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officer for the Department of energy he had top secret clearance Molly's mother Sharon was quite impressive as well she
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had an undergraduate degree from Emory University in Atlanta and was a doctor of
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mathematics in 2011 Molly convinced Jason to move with her to the states reportedly she was
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homesick she told 201 20 that Jason was excited for the kids to experience life in the US well he was a big fan of
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America their family moved to a luxury development in wallberg North Carolina a neighborhood of Winston Salem they
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purchased a large brick home in the Meadowlands an upscale Golf Community for $390,000 they were married on June 4th
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with the two children serving as the ringbearer and flower girl Jason assumed a position as the manager of multi-
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packing Solutions receiving a us work visa to allow him to live and work in this
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country the packaging plant was owned by the company that employed him in Ireland
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so it was kind of a smooth transition for the family to the states and his company arranged for him to transfer
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into that position let's skip ahead four years now we're at 2015 to the afternoon
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of Jason's death Jason mowed the lawn and then sat outside with his neighbor the two men drank about seven or eight
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beers each and then split a 32 o can in two glasses Molly's parents arrived from
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Knoxville for a somewhat last minute visit this is around 8:30 p.m. at night Captain they had pizza with Molly Jason
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and Sarah and then later Molly picked up Jack from a birthday party this was at 11:00 that night they all went to bed
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Tom and Sharon taking the room in the basement now the next thing that we know 911 is called Jason is dead and Molly
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and Tom appear to have killed him so let's try to dissect this whole mess shall we as we heard in the 911 call
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Molly and Tom told authorities that Jason attacked Molly choking her and threatening to kill her in separate
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initial interviews Molly and Tom told investigators this story between the two of them Tom and Sharon were sleeping in
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the basement guest room and Tom woke up because he heard loud thumps coming from
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the floor above he grabbed the baseball bat which that will be a big part of this case and you heard that a little
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bit of that in the 911 call This Bat apparently is a g gift that the grandparents brought along with them for
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young Jack but they had not give they hadn't given the bat to the kid yet right so he grabs this bat and he runs
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upstairs Sharon stayed in the guest room this with the dogs this was per his instructions per Tom's instructions to
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his wife Tom says he heard a scream from the master bedroom he opened the door and found Jason choking Molly he ordered
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Jason to Let Her Go Jason said that he was going to kill her and started dragging her toward the bathroom down
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the short hallway right when he opens the door though Jason's hands are out like think of a eighth graders dancing
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but instead of his hands being around her hips his hands are around her neck think of the old Simpsons episodes when
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you can see Homer choking Bart that's what I picture yeah and then when he said when Tom says hey you got to stop
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choking my daughter he turns her around and almost puts her in like a rear neged
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choke you know like where his arm is now around her throat and she is now facing
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her father but she is now in between her father and her husband and according to this story he starts to
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drag her toward the bathroom which is down a short hallway and I think that people should look at the pictures
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available online of the crime scene to have a better understanding it sounds like he would have to leave the room to
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do this but keep in mind this is the master bedroom the the master suite yeah so there's a little there's a little
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like tiny hallway that is a part of the bedroom that goes to this bathroom he they don't have to leave the room for
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him to drag her in this direction yeah basically this is 3 to 5 feet but it's the fact that once he gets her into the
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bathroom he could then separate himself and and his wife from Tom by shutting the door and Tom's going to do his best
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to make sure that they do not make it into that bathroom behind that closed door so he hits Jason on the head with
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the bat he says to protect his daughter and this is an act of self-defense he then says a fullon fight
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ensued which Tom referred to as a Donny Brook which I had to look that up that seems like an old school term but from
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what I found it Webster Webster's Dictionary defines it as an uncontrolled fight so this Donnie
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Brooke breaks out we have Molly and her father both trying to protect each other
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and fend off and enraged Jason mhm the fight migrated from the bedroom into the hallway and back into the bedroom again
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but let's start with this first hit though as Jason is moving him and his wife backwards you can't just take a baseball
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bat and conch him on the front of the head because you then could conch your daughter on the front of the head right
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so this initial hit he's kind of coming from the side swinging the bat from the side so when he actually makes contact
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with Jason's head it's like to the side or more towards the back of the head yeah this from the injuries that we
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talked about briefly in the medical examiner report this looks more toward the uh the the scalp area the side of
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the head but toward the scalp area as well if that's a whole thing though that we got to get into as well so Molly
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tells the investigators I'm just going based off of what Tom said that hit and how he swung it towards Jason was so
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Molly tells investigators that Jason grab grabbed the bat from her father and then she tried to help her father by
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hitting her husband in the head with a concrete Paving Stone which was in the bedroom because she and the kids had
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planned on painting it for a garden that they were making now our friend Jess was
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able to locate a copy of the written statement to police by Molly this was conducted right after they found the
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body and here's what it says now bear with me Captain cuz I'm trying to read through Molly's cursive here it says my
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husband Jason Corbett was upset that he woke up and an argument ensued with him telling me to shut up Etc and he applied
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pressure to my throat neck she says throat slash neck and started choking me at some
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point I screamed as loud as poss possible he covered my mouth and then started choking me again with his arm my
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father Tom Marton came in the room and I cannot remember if he said something or
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just hit Jason to get him off me Jason grabbed the bat from him and I tried to hit him with a brick and then she says
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garden decor I had on my nightstand I do not remember and then here's a word that
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I cannot I cannot decipher what it is I do not remember blank after that at first I thought it was much I do not
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remember much after that or I I don't think much would be good though because I think you'd be you would be pushed to
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you can't just tell police oh I don't remember much after that will tell us what you do remember you know uh so it's
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got to be some other word I think I think that's a pretty common thing that when when a a fight breaks out or even
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like sometimes you're in a bar and it's that that's a common phrase that I've heard my friends say well and then we're
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at the bar and then and then he said this to this next thing you know he smacks him and then I don't remember
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much after that no I get that it's a common phrase I mean that you in this situation you're not allowed to get away
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with that common phrase you you would be you would be pushed by investigators to
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clarify what much means much implies that you still know something that's debatable and we'll get
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into why that's debatable later but you have individuals that are taken in in question and they're not interrogated
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it's it's very loose if anything and then they're sat on their way there's not much of an interrogation correct
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bars before we move on I want to point out uh not only that it's your birthday the Beloved Captain's birthday but there
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are and were many sources of information for this case this is actually a bigger
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case than most would think some of the information we have comes from the Irish Times from the Irish independent but
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truly my main source of information was the extensive coverage of the case by the Winston Salem journal particularly
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the reporting of Michael huet so I wanted to pass that along in a uh kudos to Michael huet for his great coverage
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of the case now officials were very tight lipped about what went down that night but 2 weeks later the sheriff told
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the Irish Daily Mail newspaper that Molly and her father were quote Persons of Interest in Jason's death he told the
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news outlet that Jason had been bludgeon to death with a baseball bat and that investigators were not seeking suspects
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outside of the home and look there are really no two ways around it it the crime scene
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well I actually I think what we should in all fairness is call it something different let's say the death scene
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because there's a decent argument that this was not in fact a crime but was self-defense well there was a crime
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happening it's called abuse and if you're being choked and somebody's saying that they're going to
00:32:49
kill you you have the right to defend yourself and then with or defend somebody else and in that action
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somebody then dies so self-defense again if those stories are true that's that's
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the whole importance of this case right is it self-defense or is it not is it murder so what is so important is the
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death scene cuz to me I look at all these photos and it just does not make sense with the stories that are told to
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investigators by the only two people that survived the fight right this is when you have to let your forensic
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people put together the scientific facts of the death scene the facts of the body
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the injury sustained by the deant and now the detectives well they need to start to go to work on some type of
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paper trail if you in fact do think that this was murder or if you do in fact have evidence that suggests this they
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are suspects and here are some of the reasons that are listed for why they become become
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suspects at 3:13 a.m. the morning of the death two Emergency Medical Service officers arrived at the scene followed
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by a second unit of two more one of these officers described the room as real bad a horrible scene they said that
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they moved Jason Corbett's blood soaked body from the master bedroom to an ambulance outside no heart rhythm was
00:34:25
ever detected two of the paramedics commented on how cold or how cool was their actual word
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how cool the body was and questioned if there might have been a delay in calling
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911 right at 4:00 a.m. the crime scene examiner at the Corbett home arrived on the scene within the next hour both Tom
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Martins and His Daughter Molly Martin Corbett are transported by officers to the David son County Sheriff's Office
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where they are interviewed photographed and their Blood Stained clothing is taken for forensic analysis both had
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barely a scratch on their person you know we talked about that quote Donnie Brook broke out or as Cosmo Kramer would
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say a real brewhaha and seemingly no marks on these two people yeah okay I'm I'm going to stop you right
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there that is the speculation the problem we have is we have one man getting in confrontation with another
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man protecting his daughter he then calls 911 they bring him down to the station and they talk to him not that
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long there's not much of an interrogation they basically take a statement take a couple pictures and
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send you on your way they didn't do they could have done more of a extensive investigation of the persons at that
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moment I don't believe there was an extensive investigation of the persons of where they injuries were they're
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bruising and on top of that if you think that it's a possibility that this wasn't
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self-defense you call the individuals in a day later two days later see if there
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was bruising see if there was any injuries after that see their demeanor take more pictures to to see we we have
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one set of pictures again I I just don't think they did enough I will I'm going to disagree with
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that I I'm I'm with you there there does not seem to be any interrogation that night I Pro I agree with you on that end
00:36:46
I would have pushed for that immediately where I do I I don't think that there's look there there's just no
00:36:54
injuries to these people that whether whether you took significant amount of pictures that night or the next day or
00:37:01
what have you there just there is not injuries to either one of these individuals again that's where I'd argue
00:37:06
because if somebody's choked sometimes they they have a redness around their neck she does not but that doesn't mean
00:37:13
that two days later there wasn't some kind of bruising around her neck but she was interviewed during the course of
00:37:19
those two days so she was interviewed initially right after the attack happened cor but
00:37:27
I don't think they were ever interviewed after that there was no second follow-up
00:37:34
interview that that does not seem to be the case these people were talked to quite a bit and that's that's not what
00:37:42
that's not what Tom Martin says the the thing is though I I just don't one I don't see any injuries on these two and
00:37:49
two on top of that we don't have either of them claiming to have any injuries other than the one of the of being
00:37:55
choked but I I really don't think that that where where the media or where the public points out that that's such a big
00:38:05
issue I don't know that I find that to be that big of an issue because the story that they told to investigators
00:38:11
does not imply that there should be significant injuries to either one of these individuals right you know we we
00:38:18
don't have either one of them saying that that Jason hit Tom with the bat we have one of them saying I thought he was
00:38:25
going to hit Tom with the bat right not that he did so them not having injuries doesn't doesn't really point to any sign
00:38:34
of guilt to me or that their story is is a fabrication but I we we would be remiss
00:38:41
if we didn't point that out because every story you go to that's the the key thing that they want to point out in
00:38:47
this situation I would think that there'd be some kind of bruisings one around her neck or around her arms where
00:38:54
he would grab her to pull her in I'd also like to see I would assume that there would be bruising on Tom as far as
00:39:02
like maybe his back when he talks about I mean we're talking about a individual that he's wrestling with that's almost
00:39:08
300 lb and and Tom is an older man and I would just I would also just think as him being an older man that he'd be more
00:39:17
likely to bruise again I think if there was followup where you where you're investigating of the person and you're
00:39:24
taking more photos that maybe you would see some bruising on on Tom's back or something the problem that no injuries
00:39:31
really points out is that at some point dur during the course of this fight this
00:39:38
Donnie Brook this brewhaha whatever you want to label it is that the aggressor you know if we
00:39:46
are to believe the stories of Tom and Molly the aggressor would be Jason at some point he is no longer the aggressor
00:39:54
and he just continues to get beaten to death that's the problem with them having no
00:40:00
injuries so we have Dr Craig Nelson who conducted the postmortem examination says that the victim's head is so badly
00:40:08
damaged that when the doc attempts to adjust the scalp pieces of skull fall out onto his his surgical table the
00:40:18
blows to his skull were so violent and repeated that the doctor said it was impossible to make an accurate count
00:40:26
beyond that Jason suffered a minimum of 12 hits to the skull well we have what Tom saying that it's at least three or
00:40:37
four yeah but but you have a doctor saying that that it's more than that right it's it's a minimum of 12 and past
00:40:44
12 we can't even it's impossible for us to tell because the the skull is in such
00:40:49
bad shape mhm that we can't determine anything after that which isn't consistent with their story no no not at
00:40:57
all and then as far as a paper trail you know we're talking about your forensic guys got to come up with the scientific
00:41:03
evidence now we got our our detectives trying to come up with some type of paper trail or circumstantial evidence
00:41:10
let's get into some of that we have Molly's parents Tom and Sharon who lived 4 hours away apparently they had dinner
00:41:17
plans that night for that Saturday night that fell through according to the reports Tom made the decision that the
00:41:24
two should make a spontaneous visit to see Molly and the kids for whatever reason investigators viewed this
00:41:31
impromptu visit as very suspicious saying it's quite out of character for her parents now Jason may have been
00:41:40
planning a trip to Ireland this is a a hotly debated issue inside this this case that Jason was planning a trip to
00:41:48
Ireland to that was going to take place around August 21st according to an affid
00:41:54
davit the trip was allegedly for the purpose of him moving back to Ireland with his children but they had no
00:42:02
intention of taking Molly with them right the argument against this though against this thought is that Jason's
00:42:09
father was turning 80 years old and there was going to be a big party for his birthday that the trip was simply
00:42:16
for that party obviously they're having problems within their marriage but one of the problems was Molly wanted to have
00:42:22
custody of the children she's raising these kids she's now their mother she wants to legally adopt them and Jason's
00:42:31
not having this go through he keeps saying he's going to but because they're having problems in the marriage he's not
00:42:38
doing it so in regards to this trip and what it's actually for you know we have Molly
00:42:45
and her family saying that it was just for Jason to attend this party we have Jason's family who's saying no he
00:42:52
intended to move back with the children without her and that's why if this went down if it was premeditated murder
00:42:58
that's why it had to happen before the 21st the problem with us trying to decipher what exactly was going on there
00:43:06
is at the end of the day no one knows for sure because the man planning the trip is is dead he's he's not here to
00:43:12
tell us what his intentions were right and there are the financials you know we see reports of Jason possibly moving
00:43:20
large sums of money from his bank account here in the states to his home Bank in Ireland and there's talk of
00:43:29
quote large sums of money and quote having been removed from some of his and Molly's joint bank accounts now the
00:43:37
thought on that on those large sums of money from the joint bank account was she possibly moving some money in
00:43:46
advance MH well because if this is premeditation one you're going to kill this guy that doesn't give you the
00:43:57
rights to stay their mother stay the mother of the children so you're taking a risk on that level but also this money
00:44:06
that money might not go to you at all that money might go to towards the kids depending on how the will is set up
00:44:14
correct correct so I want to go back to the the scene of the crime because to to
00:44:20
me or the death scene whatever we want to call it because to me I think that's a big big aspect of this case the the
00:44:30
scene inside the bedroom as one would expect was a bloody one the crime scene photos which are available again
00:44:38
available online show blood spatter on the bed floor and walls there are multiple sprays of Blood on the carpeted
00:44:47
floor near the doorway there are large blotches of blood about 12 to 18 in off the ground on the wall also near this
00:44:57
doorway and the blood spatter and smears on the walls of the hallway there is even blood spatter behind the door on
00:45:07
the wall MH also on the electrical outlet and on the AC grate there there's some on the the bed as well a concrete P
00:45:17
lay on the carpeted bedroom floor covered in blood an aluminum 28 inch Louisville Slugger baseball bat was
00:45:26
leaning up against an ornate wooden dresser an upright vacuum cleaner sat on top of some of the blood stains on the
00:45:37
carpet behind the spattered door area later an affidavit stated quote the struggle described was not consistent
00:45:47
with the evidence at the scene particularly the master bedroom end quote and to tell you what Captain I
00:45:53
cannot agree with that statement more yeah you can actually see these pictures online and at at first you go
00:46:02
here here's this retired FBI agent of 19 years there's a couple things that start
00:46:09
making you question this initially is he tells his wife to stay downstairs well they have some dogs there so that
00:46:15
somewhat makes sense but initially the sound scares him and Spooks him enough that he' grab a baseball bat if it was
00:46:22
just an argument that he's hearing between his son-in-law and the daughter there is no need to grab the baseball
00:46:29
bat but the initial sounds he doesn't recognize so that's why he grabs the baseball bat mhm but if you're that
00:46:37
nervous tell your wife to call 911 or at some point you say hey if things get out
00:46:43
of hand call 911 she never calls 911 so we don't know how long the delay was so the the story that I used earlier
00:46:52
Captain was a was of my choosing because in the two accounts that I saw that that
00:46:59
are on public record that he gave of that night what woke him up to want to venture upstairs in one story he says
00:47:09
that he's hearing thumping or thuds on the floor above and hears a scream grabs the bat goes upstairs right and the
00:47:16
other story and I I don't I want to be clear here I don't think that he I don't think that this is any uh admission of
00:47:24
guilt here omission of guilt the other story he says that he hears the thumps or the thuds but never mentions a scream
00:47:31
and goes upstairs right so I'm with you Captain I think that if you're just if you knew that it was to be your daughter
00:47:42
or you were hearing an argument between husband and wife you don't grab the bat I'm I'm fully on Bard with
00:47:51
that it regardless though it seems a bit weird so under this scenario I'm guessing he according to him or the
00:47:59
story he's presenting he goes upstairs to investigate these suspicious sounds and does not decipher that it is coming
00:48:07
from husband and wife until he's already at the top floor at the main floor right
00:48:12
with bat in hand and what Molly is stating because we have to have this argument that takes place well the
00:48:18
argument takes place and what Molly says is that the the daughter woke up should
00:48:23
go to the door because if she went into the door should get yelled at so she's at the door basically she's scared Molly
00:48:30
Gets up puts her back to bed when she's coming back to bed it's it's pretty late so Jason wakes up with an attitude
00:48:38
what are you going why are you coming to bed so late who were you talking to and
00:48:44
she's like I'm I was just putting the daughter back to bed this is what she claims that's when the fight broke out
00:48:50
but that's not how investigators think that this went down well the baseball bat is collected into evidence obviously
00:48:58
and according to a police Abid davit quote it appeared to be covered in wet and dried blood the baseball bat also
00:49:06
had what appeared to be human hair attached to the barrel of the bat the baseball bat was black and red in color
00:49:13
with black rubber hand grips on the base a concrete pver with blood on it was collected as well the police photos of
00:49:25
Martin's Corbett taken that night show a distraught looking young blond woman with blood on her forehead and in her
00:49:33
hair she is clothed in a multicolored pajama tank top and pants a little blood is evident on her clothes she appears in
00:49:45
photos to have virtually no marks on her as we said earlier save one tiny red mark on her throat and others have
00:49:53
pointed out that she is wearing a delicate look looking bracelet on one wrist which many have questioned why did
00:50:00
that not break during this struggle right Tom Martins Molly's father was photographed looking
00:50:08
sheepish he has ample blood smears on his shirt but his arms and hands look they're they're significantly less
00:50:18
bloody than the shirt he was not photographed in the boxer shorts so he was wearing box or shorts when this
00:50:26
whole thing went down mhm neither had any visible scrapes Cuts bruises or swelling at that time which
00:50:36
again seems unlikely but it also doesn't go completely against their their story
00:50:42
of how it went down I question where it goes to at some point was the self-defense and turned into M like
00:50:49
could you have stopped beating this man at some point and as you pointed out Captain uh
00:50:56
Jason was a large man as far as weight goes I have him upwards of 260 pounds now both Tom and Molly were interviewed
00:51:06
by police I mean you hear on the 911 call hey this guy's a large man it's hard for me to to turn him over right uh
00:51:15
both were interviewed by police and released as you said this within 7 hours of the time that they were taken to the
00:51:22
Sheriff's Office I do want to go a little more into some of these crime scene photos because these things are
00:51:33
there's a lot to look at in these there's a lot to to look at and try to put your own I don't want to say spin
00:51:40
but put your own opinion on what you think that you're seeing right when I first look at the the the
00:51:48
photo that I think is of the most interest to me immediately is the one and anybody that's seen these online
00:51:55
will know immediately which one I'm talking about there's a picture of the master bedroom door and it's open it's
00:52:02
about halfway open and there's a vacuum cleaner with the cord kind of strung out
00:52:09
along the floor and it's wedged between the wall and this uh master bedroom door you see blood on the carpet you see
00:52:20
blood on the vacuum cleaner you see blood on the walls behind the vacuum cleaner behind the door mhm so there's
00:52:30
some there's immediately there's some puzzling things about that portion of the scene we can decipher that the vacuum
00:52:38
cleaner during the course of the bloodied attack was lying on its side because the
00:52:47
blood that is on the wall behind it could not have physically got there with the vacuum cleaner sitting
00:52:53
upright the other thing too is if you look real close at the vacuum cleaner the blood was dripping from side to side
00:53:02
on the vacuum cleaner which is scientifically not possible if the vacuum cleaner was in the upright
00:53:08
position when it when this blood is spraying on it during the attack right so somebody took the time to put the
00:53:16
vacuum upright um or put it upright and in this location in the room prior to these photos being
00:53:27
taken which seems a little strange to me unless it's paramedics just simply getting it out of the way when they try
00:53:35
to save this individual's life who by all accounts is is dead by the time they arrive on the
00:53:42
scene the other puzzling thing too is that when you see the blood on the wall again behind the vacuum
00:53:52
cleaner it's also in a location where you question the position of the door during
00:53:59
this attack because if the door would have been fully open or even in its half open
00:54:07
position as we now see it in the photo it does not appear to me that some of that blood would have made its way to
00:54:14
where it did on those walls having the door being in the open position the other troubling thing too
00:54:20
is if you look at the door jam and if you look at the floor there's and this is just outside of the
00:54:28
master bedroom there's blood on the door jam there's blood on the floor there's blood on the the back side of both sides
00:54:36
of the door but that could have been who knows I mean the door could have been open at some point and the
00:54:44
door shuts you know everybody has doors in their house that they don't like to stay open they they swing shut so that's
00:54:52
a possibility or they use the stopper to open up the door because they know that
00:54:57
the the EMTs are coming I don't know I just I question why there's blood on both sides of the door I I think the
00:55:05
bigger thing is is where the blood splatter is happening it's happening mainly 3 feet and
00:55:12
down and so this guy that's almost 6 foot tall and you're talking about smacking him in the head a couple times
00:55:19
with a baseball bat you'd expect to see more of this splatter coming you know in
00:55:24
that 6t ring range um and then think about where the baseball bat would be hitting this individual and where you'd
00:55:31
be you know the the back swing would be happening yeah several portions of the of the the big batches of blood that we
00:55:40
see on the wall are 18 to 12 in off of the off of the floor and I think this is the initial reason why investigators
00:55:48
went okay their story you know he's a FBI agent of 19 years we want to believe him self defense of your daughter but
00:55:57
the majority and big big amounts of blood are happening 12 in off the ground show that two people are beating a man
00:56:07
in the head while he's on the floor right that I mean that's what it looks like to me well not only that and I know
00:56:13
you don't love my blood on both sides of the door speculation or or suspicions well I'm just saying I don't
00:56:21
I don't know how great uh unless you're looking at the image is it it's kind of hard to understand I understand what
00:56:28
you're saying but what I'm pointing out is it it looks to me like the majority of the I and I keep calling it attack
00:56:34
which is is probably not the proper word especially for those that believe it was
00:56:38
in fact self-defense but for a lack of a better term let's just say attack it looks to me like the majority of the
00:56:46
attack once the victim is bleeding because we know that neither of the other two
00:56:51
individuals suffered injuries that caused them to bleed so this is all victim's blood here all
00:56:57
Jason's blood the majority of the bloodied portion of the attack appears to have taken place to me while the door
00:57:05
was closed that I have a bit of an issue with that when in Tom's statements he says I went upstairs and I opened the
00:57:15
door or you have Molly's statement my father opened the door that gets a little tricky for me
00:57:23
when I see that the majority of the blood takes place and it's coming out when the while the door is
00:57:30
closed well right but my again I don't know the door and I don't know the room but I know of
00:57:38
several rooms in my house that if you open up the door step through it and don't touch the door it's going to shut
00:57:44
right I'm not saying it's impossible I'm just saying that it would be it's very suspicious to me when you have stories
00:57:50
of the person open the door there's no blood in the story and till the door is open and now we have crime scene photos
00:57:59
that tell us that the door was closed when most of the blood took place yeah I just wish there was more questioning
00:58:05
done uh I wish there was more photos taken again there's there's also more photos taken that we're just not we
00:58:13
don't have the privilege of seeing again I mean we can go round and round as much
00:58:17
as as you want I'm just I'm just stating I'm just saying there's very logical reasons of why the door would be prob 10
00:58:25
logical reasons the problem is it doesn't fit The Narrative of the story and that's what we have to go off of we
00:58:32
have to be able to look at their story we have to be able to look at what the scene presents us with and then then we
00:58:39
can decide we don't have to decide what is true and what is false what is 100% what is 0% it's not that black and white
00:58:47
but we can decide what is suspicious and that is very suspicious and that's just
00:58:53
my opinion the other thing that you can see too is that if you mark up where the
00:58:58
blood is dripping on the door on the inside of the master bedroom door you can mark it up with the marks on the
00:59:05
blood stains on the carpet that would be where the where the door position would
00:59:10
be when it was closed again it it doesn't prove anything but to me it's highly suspicious it almost presents a
00:59:22
different scene that does not go along with the story it presents to me that there was already blood in the attack
00:59:31
going down by before this door is even opened therefore if that is the case then we have a scenario where Tom
00:59:41
according to Tom and Molly's stories Tom could not have been the first person to
00:59:46
hit this man in the head yeah maybe or maybe there's again a million logical reasons why the door ends up being shut
00:59:54
before the attack happens I think the more damning evidence or what the investigators were looking into is like
01:00:01
we talked about before the the blood splatter being on the lower half of the walls oh 100% that's what they're honing
01:00:09
in on I'm just telling you what I see when I look at this and now another photo this one is of Thomas Martins that
01:00:16
was taken when they were photographing him for the injuries uh or just photographing his person for uh the
01:00:25
purpose of evidence for later right one thing I noticed on on one of his photos is there's dried blood on his watch
01:00:34
which I find to be suspicious as well why why well you wear a watch mhm do you sleep with your watch
01:00:43
on yeah but was he asleep I wear watch I don't sleep with my watch on I'm not what I'm saying is I don't know when he
01:00:52
is he claiming that he was asleep and woke up yes okay every every statement he gives
01:00:57
he would the noises woke him up in the middle of the night and he Ventures upstairs with the
01:01:03
bat look again maybe he sleeps with his watch on I I don't I can't think of somebody that I know that does Nei do I
01:01:11
what I'm Point what I'm possible that because he was tired maybe he fell asleep maybe he fell asleep with his
01:01:16
watch on it's the same as the door there's there's many reasons to to explain it
01:01:22
away however if he is if he is somebody that does not sleep with his watch on then that means for there to be blood on
01:01:29
his watch one of two things took place either he woke up and he was so startled and he had to go upstairs and
01:01:34
investigate this this noise but he stopped to take the time to put on his watch which does not make sense no or he
01:01:42
killed the man and then before calling 911 he puts on his watch which why would you delay the 911 call if you're if
01:01:52
you're calling for help which that's the first thing he says on the call we need
01:01:57
help mhm so again it's not any proof of guilt or any proof of murder but to me looking at it it would be suspicious it
01:02:06
would be I would question why well that's why why that's the scenario that's why I have a big issue with the
01:02:12
fact that they should have been questioned multiple times and because it could be a simple explanation well I
01:02:20
fell asleep we we sit up in bed and watch a little TV before we go to bed and and a lot of people do this and
01:02:27
you're fully clothed and you have your watch on and at some point you wake up take your watch off take your you know
01:02:35
you know what I mean like get ready for bed maybe he maybe that's the simple explanation um but again we don't have
01:02:44
more than one statement from him so that that's all we can go off of we don't have more than one statement from him
01:02:52
from that night but and then the other thing that I think is a little weird too and this this not as weird as the other
01:03:00
two things to me but the the P the garden pav Stone appears to me to have a lot more
01:03:09
blood on it than the bat which yes if we go by their story would make some sense because Jason
01:03:18
would his head would already be bleeding he would already been bleeding from the
01:03:22
head by the time he was struck in the head with the p so there's already more blood flow going on at that time or it
01:03:31
could suggest a different story where the stories we have from Molly and from Tom State he was hit by the bat many
01:03:40
more times than he was hit with the paverstone MH you could also take it the other way and say well maybe all of this
01:03:47
blood and hair on the paverstone actually suggests that he was hit more with the paverstone than the back
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