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Heat. Heat. [Music] Welcome to the garage party. Wherever you are and whatever you may be doing,
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thank you for listening and thank you for joining the party. I'm your host, Nick, and with me as always, co-hosting
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and master of ceremonies, ladies and gentlemen, the captain. It is good to be seen and good to see
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you. Thanks for listening and thanks for telling a friend. What a beautiful tuxedo you have there, Captain. This
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week, we will be rolling out the red carpet as we celebrate you, the listeners, us, the host, and your
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favorite garage studio. This week marks a very impressive podcast milestone of 500. That's a five followed by two zeros
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episodes. And to celebrate this most impressive of milestones, we will count down our 10 greatest true crime garage
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trailers of all time. That's right. It's a feature of our show that most true crime shows don't have. Each week, the
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captain composes some great music and pulls a clip or two, or maybe the colonel does a little write up for that
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week's case. Each case that we have covered here in the garage is unique and each week the trailer that we put
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together is just as unique as the case that we are covering. So please join us, won't you? As we celebrate you, the
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listeners for making this possible. Back when we started in 2015, we didn't think
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anybody would listen to two beerrinking dorks recording in a garage. But now it's almost 6 years later and we have
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one of the best, brightest, and most beautiful audience in all of true crime podcasting. And so this week we
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celebrate you. Heck, many of you have been with us since 2015 or 2016. And we truly hope that you have enjoyed the
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ride as much as we have. This week, to celebrate in a proper fashion, we are drinking Angel's Envy Kentucky straight
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handcrafted bourbon. Call me oldfashioned captain, but I believe real bourbon comes from Kentucky. Garage
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grade, of course. Five out of five bottle caps. So to all of you out there in listener land, that's right. I'm
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talking to you, friends, colleagues, true crime garage army, and citizens of parts unknown. Wherever you are,
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whatever you are doing, raise a cup, your glass, a tall can, be it bourbon, coffee, wine, beer, or soda, cuz this
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one is for you. Let's talk some true crime. I am monster. I am I am monster. Fire am I am
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I am I am I am I am I am [Music] this is true crime garage and this is the case of son of Damn.
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[Music] I am I am I am a monster. Monster. [Music] I am deeply hurt by you calling me a
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woman hater. I am not. But I am a monster. I am the son of Sam. I'm a little brat.
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When Father Sam gets drunk, he gets mean. He beats his family. Sometimes he ties me up to the back of
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the house. Other times he locks me in the garage. Sam loves to drink blood. Go out and kill, commands Father Sam.
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Behind our house, some rest. Mostly young, raped and slaughtered. Their blood drained. Just bones now.
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Papa Sam keeps me locked in the attic, too. I can't get out, but I look out the attic window and I watch the world go
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by. I feel like an outsider. I'm on a different wavelength than everybody else. Programmed to kill.
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However, to stop me, you must kill me. Attention all police. Shoot me first. Shoot the kill or else.
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Keep out of my way or you will die. Papa Sam is old now. He needs some blood to preserve his youth. He has had too
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many heart attacks. Too many heart attacks. It hurts. Sunny boy. I miss my pretty princess most of all.
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She's resting in our lady's house, but I'll see her soon. I am the monster be elabub the chubby bo behemoth.
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I love to hunt prowling the streets looking for fair game tasty meat. The women of queens are the prettiest of
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all. I must be the water they drink. I live for the hunt my life blood for papa.
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Mr. Belli sir, I don't want to kill anymore. No sir, no more. But I must honor thy father.
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I want to make love to the world. I love people. I don't belong on earth. Return
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me to the Yahoos. To the people of Queens, I love you. And I want to wish you all a happy Easter.
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May God bless you in this life and in the next. And for now, I say goodbye and good night.
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Police. Let me haunt you with these words. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back
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to be interpreted as bang bang bang bang. Yours and murder, Mr. Monster. I am I am I am a monster. Monster.
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[Music] Can't believe that one is only number 10. Cuz when you say the chubby boo,
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when you say chubby behemoth, the chubby bohemoth. Hey, I just said it. Uh David Burkowitz
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wrote it. Yeah, but you won the the Emmy for that. The uh funny thing here, that's episode
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21 of True Crime Garage way back in the day. And that one, look, I promise it's not
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going to be this scary. The entire top 10 countdown. I mean, between the the your friend over here that is weirded me
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out that you invited into the garage to to count him down. 10 10 that guy Mortal Kombat,
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he refuses to tell me his name. He's just staring at me. Weird. Between him, the chubby bohem,
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right between him and the uh the Son of Sam trailer there, I'm uh I'm on edge, man. I'm on edge. This is supposed to be
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a party. I'm supposed to be having a good time. Bang, bang, bang. That was a great trailer and of course that was the
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uh son of Sam who wrote that trailer essentially themselves. Captain knows how much I love anytime we have a case
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that involves writings from the killer or letters sent to newspapers or taunts sent to police or even
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TV news outlets. It's weird to be a fan of something like that, but it's one of those situations where I find it
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incredibly intriguing. I find it very interesting that someone would take it to that level and have to fill some kind
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of weird need of communicating with others while they're supposed to be hiding from police. And instead, it's a
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it's a taunt. It's it's to mock the investigation and mock the public who is afraid at the time. But it dramatically
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love him. He loves Queens. dramatically increases the risk that the offender is taking along the way as well.
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Yeah. And I believe that was our first dramatic reading during the trailer and it was uh I thought it was effective but
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it was also felt a little silly also at the time because of the words like chubby bohemoth. But let's get into
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number nine. [Music] The press and the media. live in that neighborhood anymore.
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There's no real reason for you to carry a 9 mm. Don't believe that? Why? Once my life is gone, it's gone.
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[Music] And obviously that's the late great Tupac Shakur. Those are episodes 112 and 113. If
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people want to keep track, keep score at home and go back and check out some of the old episodes. Maybe we are
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presenting trailers to you that you are hearing for the first time today. Yeah, it's a nice feeling when somebody
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messages you and they say, for example, let's take the Tupac Shakore case and they say, "Oh, I just watched this
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documentary. I would love to hear you guys cover Tupac's case." and he go, "Well, go to 112, 113 and you can check
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it out." And they get so excited because they don't have to wait. They don't have
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to go, "Oh, well, maybe they'll put on the list. Maybe they'll do it in a couple months. Oh, it's already done.
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Awesome." And also, I think it's just a nice feeling. I think when we started doing the podcast, it was just to see if
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we could do it. I don't even remember if we ever talked about putting it out like
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before we we tried before we sat down, flipped on microphones. Yeah. It was just simply, hey, would you
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like to try a podcast? Would you like to try to do one, not let's put it out for
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the world to hear? And then once we did a couple, we're like, well, let's just put it out and see what happens.
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And 500 episodes later, the people that we meet at Crime Con that tell me, they're like, you know,
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I've been with you guys since the beginning, I give them an extra big thank you because I'm like, you are a
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very understanding and patient person. We used to get up in the middle of recording and go get a beer and keep
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talking on mic. So, it's it would sound like this. Hey, I'm going to go to the fridge and I'm coming back and now I'm
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back and here I am. And I think you cleared it up and said it better than I did. I said, you know, when we started
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this, we didn't think anybody would listen to two guys in a garage. Uh, but you're right, we're recording it, not
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even with the idea of putting it out or releasing it to the world at the time. It was just something to set up and see
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if we could do. And if if it's painful to listen to one or two of those first early episodes,
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it's because we're in pain. We're sitting in a garage that was like 110° and the beers
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dripping. Yeah, the beers were necessary just to try to keep us uh cooled down to the
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point that we wouldn't expire during the the actual episode itself. And while we're doing this here, Captain, I want
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to make sure we give out some uh beer fund shoutouts along the way. So, raise of the glass. We're going to be raising
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the glass many times this week as we celebrate. But a cheers to Lace in Austin, Texas, and a cheers to Jennifer
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in Avon Lake, Ohio. A lot of cool, a lot of beautiful people on Avon Lake. You you know, I have a
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question because I mean, we get some analytics from the show, but I would really like to know where like the
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craziest or like the most interactive fans are. So, on the blog this week, how about you go and just put
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your name and and what state you're from? Texas, Ohio, wherever. California, California, and
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maybe I'll do a special like we did the the Ohio True Crime Garage shirts. Maybe
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we'll do whatever state wins. Well, and we have a tendency to see in from the blog itself that we often get the most
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comments or questions about a case where people are from that area where the case took place, which is just kind
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of a natural thing. One thing that should have been a natural thing, Captain, is I should have went back and
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figured out when the first episode that we did an actual trailer for, you know, cuz we're kind of here celebrating these
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trailers. I love that we have the trailers on the show. You do such a great job putting together the music and
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you know, we've been very lucky to have such a good audience, uh, such a good hardcore audience that stuck with us for
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so long. But I've had some people that are are trying to come up through the ranks of the true crime podcasting and
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they they want to know like that that you and I they somehow think that you and I are holding on to some very
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well-kept secret which is not really the case at all. But they want to know what
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what is it that that you guys do that that has set you apart from some of the others. And I actually think it's
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the drinking. I think it's the trailers. U I've always thought that it it puts a theatrical
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spin on that week's case. And again, like we said in the uh in the little leadup to today's episode,
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each case is is unique and we respect that and understand that when we look at each one of these cases and we try to
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keep that in mind at all times when we go into it doing the research and putting together the presentation for
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each case. And we do the same thing with the trailer with putting together the trailer each week. We don't want you to
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tune in. It was a horrible idea because it's like the the amount the amount of music that
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has to been, you know, to create every week for the show is there's a lot. Um it it was maybe if we would have
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decided, hey, every big case we'll do a trailer, every like big popular case, but the other ones we won't. It's a lot
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of uh a lot of music being made for the show. Well, and those of you that have been there from the very beginning, or
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maybe you found the garage at some point and you went back and you binge listen to all the old episodes to get caught
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up, you know that we didn't always do the trailers. And in fact, back when we did
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Son of Sam, the episode number 21, back then, it was more common for us to do a single episode for a case.
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Yeah. Um, and we didn't always do the beers right out the gate either. That was something that kind of happened
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organically, I think. Well, we had the beer. We had the beers. We were drinking them.
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And they were from everywhere. They were from everywhere. But what was funny was I was I would pick a six-pack
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of a beer that was kind of hard to find, or at least hard to find at the time, because you were driving up to see me
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and I knew it was going to be hot. would be sitting in the garage. And I'm like,
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well, you know what? I'm going to get a beer that we both can enjoy that's not the run-of-the-mill everyday beer to be
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something kind of special. So, we were always drinking a special beer, but I don't think the beer of the week popped
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up until there's a I think you asked me in in one of the episodes, early in one of the episodes, well, what are we
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drinking this week? And boom, now there's the uh the And boom, now there's the beer of the
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week. Boom. genius idea. Well, and also I don't think we ever got drunk in the first few
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episodes because we were just sweating it all out. I mean, so if somebody goes, "Hey, man,
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those first episodes you sound like a dumbass." It's like, well, I sound like a dumbass on the new episodes. Uh, but
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I'm just a lot clearer because I have a better microphone than I had back then. That you do there, Captain. All right, a
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quick shout out to Justin from Hurricane West Virginia and a shout to Kimberly from New Woodstock, New York. And that,
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ladies and gentlemen, brings us to number eight. This is True Crime Garage. And this is the case of the West Memphis
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3. The West Memphis 3. Damian Heckles, Jason Baldwin, Jesse Miss Kelly, the West Memphis Street,
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Damian Heckles, Jason Baldwin, Jesse Miss Kelly, the West Memphis Street, the West Memphis Street.
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[Music] We've had three children missing us last night. [Music] Three young boys murdered in Colon.
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It appeared that they had been sexually mutilated. Is it your opinion that these
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crimes were motivated by a cult police? Yes. The West Memphis 3. Arrested at 2:44 p.m. charged with three
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counts of capital murder. It was like that nuclear bomb going off in the courtroom.
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In a statement given to police, 17-year-old Jesse Miss Kelly allegedly confesses to watching two other suspects
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choke, rape, and sexually mutilate three West Memphis second graders. In 1993, the small Arkansas town of West
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Memphis was rocked by the gruesome killing of three 8-year-old boys. A police investigation brought murder
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charges against three local teens. Damian Eckles, Jason Baldwin, Jesse, Miss Kelly, Miss Kelly.
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[Music] This is not Who do you believe? Terry Wayne. I don't know how much clear I have to
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make. None of my DNA was there. None of the West Memphis 3's DNA was there. [Music]
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What makes you so sure it's What makes you so sure that it's Gary Hop? Pardon me.
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What makes you so sure that it's Carrie Hob? Well, his D was found there at a lace of
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Michael Moore. David's hair was there. What' it do? fly there on Harry Potter one.
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It either fell off of Terry Hobbs or he was there. There's no other two ways about it. None of the Westminster 3's
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DNA was there. [Music] This is not just Damian Heckles. Jason Baldwin, Jessie, Miss Kelly, Miss Kelly, Jesse
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Miss Kelly, Miss Kelly, The West Memphis, Damian Eckles, Jason Baldwin, Jesse, Kelly,
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the West Memphis 3. This is not just [Music] the West Street. Old Mark Buyers. And of course, those are the West
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Memphis three cases, 40, 41, and 42. And we were just saying on off the record the other day, we
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probably could have done about 30 episodes on West Memphis 3 cuz it seemed like, especially in the early days, that
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that was a case that both of us love to discuss over and over and over. Yeah. I think we were saying maybe we
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would just uh go back, revisit West Memphis 3, and cover it for the next two to three, four years, however long it
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takes to to figure it out. Uh, no, that was one of the first three-parters that we did, as you pointed out, episodes 40,
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41, and 42. And you're right, at the time, didn't it feel like three devoting three hours, maybe a little more to a
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case was was a lot? like, yeah, this is going to be heavy lifting. It's going to be difficult to put together.
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It might be difficult to fill the space. I think our average one parters were already starting to get into the hour
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15, hour 20. Now, we also talked a little bit slower back then and our delivery wasn't as
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good and there was a lot more spaces. I don't think we spent as much time editing the episodes. Well, you'll have
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people that will say, "Look, they did all those documentaries on the West Memphis 3. It should be easy to fill
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three hours or three and a half or four, whatever it ended up being." But well, half those documentaries are just
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Metallica songs and with visuals, right? Visuals. Yeah. They're not They're not actually
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talking to fill the space. There's and and to be honest with you, I think we broke it down in our coverage of it how
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little actual case information there are in in those three in the trilogy, the Paradise Lost Trilogy itself.
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Uhhuh. Now, but we both consider them to be brilliant documentaries. I mean, they're
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they're fascinating to watch. I don't get tired of them. Yeah. But look, part one, episode 40,
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hour and 12 minutes. Episode two, an hour and 36 minutes. Episode three, an hour and 51 minutes. This is, I think,
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at the point where I started realizing it's hard uh with, you know, to to condense it down and you don't want the
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episode to be two hours long. That's intimidating. Yeah. It's hard in the streets and it's
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hard in the garage. and it's hard in the streets of West Memphis. The uh the thing too is I think we spent the
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majority of the second episode that it took us an hour and 30 because we were going through the timeline in such
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detail that we were trying to show that hey look while we agree that the documentaries are the Paradise Lost uh
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documentaries are very entertaining and whatnot. They spent a lot of time building a case against Mark Buyers and
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we spent a lot of time in that second episode tearing down that case against Mark Buyers because when you look and
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you review the timeline of events that people agree upon that that more than one in the inner circles of these six
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families involved and the police and the neighborhood and such, right? you see that there's very little time for Mark
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Buyers to have done anything u as you know to to have harmed these boys and of course now all these years later even
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before we covered it we know that there are different circumstances to to look at and truly analyze during that but it
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was it was something that we were happy to put together and again like you said captain it was a case that we were very
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passionate about back then we were very passionate about it in the '9s it was it
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It was one of those ones that we always knew we would cover it, but it was about
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wanting to try to cover it the best way we knew how at the time. And I think we did a fairly good job of that. At the
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time, I thought we I thought we nailed it. I thought it was a home run. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And it's so part of
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me wants to applaud ourselves because we took on a giant challenge probably before we were ready. I mean, but let's
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be honest, like we said, we we started a podcast to see if we could do it, you know, not to start putting them out. So
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then once you get to a challenge like that, you go, "Oh, that's pretty good." But I remember the following week going,
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"Yeah, this is pretty good, but like we could have spaced them out more. Maybe this should have been six parts, you
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know, um or or or possibly even more." And so now when I look at it and if I mean just off the top of my head if he
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said to me you need to cover West Memphis 3 I'd go that's going to take you about 10 to 12 episodes. Well, and
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that was a a helpful learning experience for the two of us because it allowed us
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to know and understand for future cases that are of that size or that popularity
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that there's that much information out there that three isn't going to be enough. It just won't
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be. And look, I I'm happy to applaud ourselves for what we put together back then. Of course, we've gotten better.
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Heck, if we've not gotten better from episode 40 to episode 500, then we're really we're really doing something
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wrong and and really have gone backwards. There's a listener out there right now
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going, "Hey, boys, you sound the same to me." Well, hopefully they're still listening
00:28:58
because they they love the show and love the garage. Two people that I love, Lindsay in Atlanta, Georgia. Nona, you
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don't hear that name very often. Cheers to Nona in Rogers, Arkansas, which is very fitting to fall there with the West
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Memphis 3K. Thank you to everybody for the BW Are you N beer run? Yeah, these aren't just random names
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that we're shouting out. We're doing the beer fund shout outs a little bit differently this week because hey, we're
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partying it up as we go through our countdown here in the garage. But everybody, if you hear your name, you
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helped us fill up the beer fridge for what's going to turn out to be next week, right, Captain? because we're
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we're enjoying some angel's envy today. [Music] [Applause] [Music] All right. Cheers, mates. To the people
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in the back, to the people in the front. More importantly, cheers to the people being bust in from out of town. We love
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you. Cheers to Sarah and Dan in Cincinnati. And Christy, who is very mysterious, says she's somewhere between
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Portage and Springport up in Michigan. So, I hope that that doesn't mean that she's lost up there, Captain.
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I'm somewhere between extremely ugly and extremely sexy. So, figure that one out.
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Figure that out. Dial that up. Dial that one in. See what captain you get. Yeah.
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All right. What number? So, those those were our first three, right? That was our first three. Yes.
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Counting's not our best. No, we have we're we're drinking the hard stuff this week. Or maybe it's
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called the easy stuff. By my calculations, Captain, that would put us around number seven, right?
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Counted down three already. Seven to go. Party's kicking. Party's happening. Let's go with number seven.
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[Music] The following is a BTK offender criminal profile. This profile was written
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several years after BTK's first set of murders. It reads, "The attached analysis is only as good as the
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information that has been provided. In addition, it may be necessary to totally change or modify this analysis
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if new information is developed, such as additional victims, more forensic evidence, or more information obtained
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from research. Multiple homicides, Witchah, Kansas. The murders of the offender known to the
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public only as the BTK are the result of a fantasy acted out. A fantasy where for
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the first time in his life, he is in a position of dominance. He is an inadequate type, a nobody who
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through his crimes has placed himself in a position of importance. The BTK strangler is now a somebody who
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is receiving the recognition he feels is long overdue. He is not even very original in his
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crimes. He has patterned himself after other killers such as the son of Sam in New York City.
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Most of the verbiage used by the offender in his letters probably comes out of recent publications in detective
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magazines. The subject is alienated, lonely, and withdrawn. He would not be expected to have any
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lasting relationships with others and would lead a solitary existence dominated by fantasy and magical
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thinking. His killing is an attempt on his part to find affection and acceptance. He fears
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everyone, including himself. He would not be expected to have had any normal relations with women and probably
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has never had a normal heterosexual relationship with one. When he is not killing, he experiences
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intense feelings that he is not normal and therefore he kills to cope with this disorder and attempt to escape within
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his own fantasies. Thus, he can be expected to kill again and to do so in a compulsive repetition
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pattern that he has already established. His victims can be either male or female
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who are both loved and outgoing. His victims will be in a position of vulnerability where he can totally
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render them helpless. His victims represent his own feeling of helplessness and hopelessness. His own
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life has been disruptive. He probably comes from a background where his family was broken. He was
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raised by an overbearing mother who was inconsistent in her discipline and his father was absent either because of
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marital separation or death. This would have occurred when he was a youth. Your subject may have been raised
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by foster parents. Your subject was an average student in the classroom. However, he was more adept to disrupting
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the class by using profanity and pranks. His language and statements make us believe that he has some military
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experience and or is a police buff. He probably has had run-ins with the police in the past, such as assault
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and/or breaking and entering. During these break-ins, items taken will be items of insignificance.
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These items would have been taken because of a fetish or to feed a strong urge to take an article of clothing or
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an item that he is fond of or the satisfaction of committing a crime that will leave little evidence to
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investigators. BTK may have a history of vyoristic activity and he may have an arrest
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record for these types of offenses. He hunts his victims by selecting neighborhoods where he can peruse
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different houses without being detected. Furthermore, his victims will live in an
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area where, if need be, he can have an easy escape route, such as a neighborhood park where he can hide to
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elude police. His killings are impulsively motivated and without elaborate planning. He seeks out targets
00:36:12
of opportunity. Such individuals of this type suffer from insomnia and thus find
00:36:18
it difficult to hold steady employment. Control of himself and of his environment is essential to such a
00:36:25
person. Although he is gaining in confidence, he is still shy, withdrawn, and isolated.
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As a counter strategy technique, your department must not make any statements concerning the killer's mental
00:36:38
condition. Do not allow the media to label him as some kind of psychotic killer.
00:36:44
If they have already done so, your best strategy will be to align yourself with the killer and not the psychiatric
00:36:50
experts. Any press releases should clearly state that he is a killer who must be
00:36:55
apprehended and that he is not a psychotic animal. This approach may reduce the killer's
00:37:02
anxiety and reinforce his own guilt feelings. this removing any psychiatric excuses
00:37:08
for his acts and leaving him responsible for his murders. Extended periods between his murders may be for reasons
00:37:16
when he was absent from the area, either as a result of military service, schooling, incarceration, or mental
00:37:23
treatment. It is not uncommon for subjects such as yours to frequent police hangouts and an attempt to
00:37:30
overhear officers discussing the case. Such offenders may be at the crime scene observing detectives investigating the
00:37:37
case. All of this allows the murderer to fulfill his ego and gain a feeling of superiority.
00:37:45
He may go so far as to telephonically contact your department and provide details specific to his crimes. Your
00:37:52
advantage in this case is his very strong self-centered attitude will be his downfall. He will provide
00:37:59
information to a friend or an acquaintance at a local tavern concerning information he knows about
00:38:05
the case. He may even pretend to be an officer working the case. He may carry a fake badge on his person. If so, he may
00:38:14
use this to gain entry into his victim's homes. BTK will continue to kill until he is caught or killed.
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[Music] one of my favorite characters in the Mine Hunter series, BTK, because you
00:38:39
don't really get to hear him talk and you don't know when they're going to start looking for him. And he's so
00:38:48
similar to BTK in real life. like looks like they could, you know, um they casted the character very well.
00:38:58
Well, and us as the viewers, we know what he's up to. So, it makes it even a little more intriguing when they, you
00:39:05
know, when they break and then they show BTK for a little bit. Maybe he's dressed
00:39:10
up in one of his costumes. Maybe he's standing there in front of a burning barrel tossing in pictures and drawings
00:39:17
that he's made. Now, that that trailer is a great trailer. That was from May of 2018 when we did a four-part series on
00:39:28
the BTK, who is one of your favorite characters on the Mind Hunter Show, which I'm hoping season 3
00:39:37
sometime. I hope they're working on it right now. But is one of my least favorite serial killers. I hate the BTK.
00:39:44
Hate Dennis Raider. would love to squash him like a bug. That was another one of
00:39:50
those guys that taunted police and the public with his letters and whatnot and contacting the I believe he even used
00:39:58
the phone one time to call in something to the local media or to the police. But
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2018 May is when we did the fourparter on BTK captain. I remember 2017 and 2018, early part of 2018, we were
00:40:16
getting a lot of requests to do more expanded uh deep dives into these different types
00:40:23
of cases, be it solved or unsolved. We were getting a lot of requests for fourparters, and we were happy.
00:40:30
I missed the fourarters. We were happy to oblige. Seems like we haven't done a fourparter
00:40:35
in a while, but I guess a few months ago, well, we did the uniomber, right? Well, not only did I read the trailer
00:40:43
there, Captain for BTK, I provided the screams for you at the end of it as well.
00:40:49
That was some of my That's when you see a bug. Some some of my finest work. Yeah, like
00:40:55
George, like I swallowed a fly. What do I do? What do I do? Uh but yeah, that was uh some of my finest work that I've
00:41:00
done here in the garage with those screams. Um yeah, Uni Bomber uh not too long ago. And you're right, maybe we
00:41:09
need to hear from the people. The people will tell us what they want. The people in the front and the back.
00:41:14
And we are happy to uh we're happy to uh answer all requests. We're almost to the halfway point. Let's
00:41:21
get to number six. [Music] [Music] Murder is a broad and fascinating crime. People murder for love and for hate.
00:42:09
Some murder for money, others for want of money. Some people murder in a cold, insane rage. And some people murder with
00:42:18
the calculating skill of a butcher. Some people use guns or knives or their hands. Some people murder children
00:42:27
exclusively or women. And some people plant bombs in hightra loces. and some mail them to specific targets.
00:42:38
New York City's Mad Bomber, a case featured here in The Garage, was about an angry and yes, very much a
00:42:46
madman who terrorized New York City for 16 years in the 1940s and 1950s with explosives that he planted in public
00:42:56
places. Bombs were left in phone booths, storage lockers, and restrooms in public
00:43:01
buildings, including the Grand Central Terminal, Pennsylvania Station, Radio City Music Hall, the subway, and the New
00:43:10
York Public Library. For 16 years, a period stretching back to 1940, the largest, most formidable police force in
00:43:18
the nation, had failed to hustle up any worthy leads. By 1956, the bombers's handiwork showed a lethal new
00:43:26
proficiency. He declared his deadly intent in letters sent to newspaper editors. Each
00:43:32
rambling, raging letter was cryptically signed FP. Desperation drove the police to pursue a course they never before
00:43:41
considered in the department's 111-year history. NYPD was going to consult with James A. Brussell, a psychiatrist with
00:43:51
the expertise in the workings of the criminal mind. If physical evidence could not lead the police to FP, maybe
00:43:58
emotional insights could. Since a physical description of the bomber was unattainable, New York police believe
00:44:05
maybe Dr. Brussell could use the evidence to draw a profile of the bombers's inner self, an emotional
00:44:12
portrait that would illuminate his background and disorder. Brussell told them that the bomber was a textbook
00:44:19
paranoid schizophrenic. People suffering from this disorder, he explained, may believe other people are controlling
00:44:26
them or plotting against them. They are typically reclusive, antisocial, and consumed with hatred for their imagined
00:44:33
enemies. For all their derangement, they're capable of acting quite normal until inevitably some aspect of their
00:44:41
delusions enter into their conversation. The paranoic is the world's champion grudge, Russell would explain.
00:44:50
We all get mad at other people and organizations sometimes, but with most of us, the anger evaporates eventually.
00:44:58
The mad bombers's anger does not. Once he gets the idea that somebody has wronged him or is out to hurt him, the
00:45:06
idea stays in his mind. The bomber, Russell continued, almost surely operated as a lone wolf. Paranoids,
00:45:14
quote, have confidence only in themselves. They are overwhelmingly egocentric. They distrust everyone. An accomplice
00:45:24
would be a potential bungler or double crosser. Ultimately, Dr. Brussell was correct in his assessment of the
00:45:33
evidence, which was simply the bombers's actions, words, and intent. This specifically helped NYPD identify,
00:45:41
locate, and apprehend a domestic terrorist that eluded them for 16 years. The mad bomber, later identified as
00:45:49
George Matesky, was angry and resentful about events surrounding a workplace injury he suffered years earlier.
00:45:57
Russell called his approach reverse psychology. Today, we call it criminal profiling.
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Decades later, in 1980, after four attacks, the FBI created the uniomb task force.
00:46:12
During the 80s, they failed to identify the uni bomber and then he went dormant.
00:46:18
The feds suspected the terrorist could be dead. But then the attack started up again and in 1993 things at the task
00:46:26
force were ramping up and a new wave of agents with differing array of expertise
00:46:32
were brought in to work the case. Its wouldbe assigned task force agents all received a rather large memo titled
00:46:40
major case number 75- Unibomb. For well over a decade, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies around the US
00:46:49
investigated the case they dubbed Unibomb. By the mid90s, the perpetrator was the
00:46:55
most wanted serial killer in the United States, and he was one that none of his victims had ever laid eyes on. an
00:47:03
individual so mysterious and elusive that he was known only by the case code name the FBI had given him Uni Bomber
00:47:12
since his early bombings were directed at universities and airlines. Unlike the one big crude blast of
00:47:19
Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVey and his cohorts, the Uni Bombers attacks were more like that of the Mad Bombers,
00:47:27
but unfortunately more destructive and deadly. These bombings were spaced apart. This
00:47:34
perpetrator could wait and act over time. He was more specifically directed. He was clever. He was diabolical. And
00:47:44
his motive was wrapped in layers of mystery. This is True Crime Garage. And this is
00:47:51
the case of the Uni Bomber. [Music] You like Robert Stack have a nice cadence to those trailers.
00:48:08
And you know what? One thing we do that's just polite, you'll notice that we often say in a trailer, "This is True
00:48:15
Crime Garage." That way, if you ended up here by accident and you were looking for a different show, we let you know so
00:48:20
you don't have to wait till the end to find out. Yeah. I like when people go, "Hey, uh, I
00:48:26
normally agree with you guys, but this last episode, we were we don't seem to be on the same page,
00:48:35
right?" And they say, "Uh, you know, whatever case it is, and then I look it up and I
00:48:40
go, we we didn't cover that case, right? Wrong show." And then I then they go, "Oh my god, I'm
00:48:45
so embarrassed." But we're also polite, too, because when we fart, we say, "Excuse me." Well, and
00:48:51
some people, you know, maybe a lot of people listen at work or at the gym or during their commute. And, you know,
00:48:59
we're we're one of the better flavors on the block, but maybe a bunch of psychopaths just iron
00:49:05
listening to murder. People need more than one flavor. And so, they tune into different shows that
00:49:10
they like and they get jumbled up sometimes and go, "You know what? You guys really really laid a stinker this
00:49:18
week." Yeah. And we're like, we don't we don't know what case you're talking about.
00:49:22
We don't cover that one. Please direct that stinker elsewhere. Well, True Crime Garage, what flavor are
00:49:28
we? The drunken flavor. All right. So, tomorrow we we go to the top five. Oh, prepare yourselves for the top five. The
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one we just heard, Uni Bomber, episode 482. As the captain pointed out earlier in this episode, we did a four-parter on
00:49:48
Ted Kazinski, the uni bomber. It though, look, the world would have been a better
00:49:52
place had that guy just accidentally blown himself up during the constructions of those bombs in his little little
00:49:58
shack that he was living living in there. Hey, but to celebrate 500 episodes, will you please do us a huge
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