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let's talk some true crime [Music] Morgan Shantel Nick was born on September 12 1988 when she disappeared on Friday June
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9th 1995 she was 6 years old 4T tall 55 lb with blue eyes and long blonde hair she
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had a protruding purple Vein on the lower left of her rib cage and five visible silver caps on her MERS that
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were scheduled to be removed later the Amber Alert in Arkansas is named after Morgan Nick
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an ay magazine article by Janie Jones titled the Morgan Nick Story States an old Superstition says if you make a wish
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when you see the first lightning bug of the year the wish will come true but for
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Colleen Nick lightning bugs remind her of the night her six-year-old daughter Morgan went
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missing and Colleen Nick had this to say in an interview back in 19 1997 miss Nick said she still has hope
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Morgan will be found alive quote you can't give up until you know for sure I don't want to have to look my daughter
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in the eye and tell her I gave up she goes on to say quote I don't know who these people are that think they can do
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this to our children on the day in question 6-year-old Morgan Nick was with her mom Colleen the two
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drove from their home in Ozark Arkansas 30 Mi away to Alma Arkansas Alma is a Tiny Town population was under 4,000
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back in 1995 the town is nestled in the ozar mountains this is a rural area but Elma
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is bisected by a major highway this is Interstate 80 and Elma is only 13 miles from the Oklahoma border Morgan and
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Colleen traveled to a ballpark to watch some little league baseball games with friends who lived in Alma they were
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meeting their friends there it was a long day of baseball with the final game between the pythons and the Marlins
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starting later than scheduled and stretching into the 10: p.m. time time frame they estimate that there was about
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300 people watching the baseball game the crowd was involved active and at times loud Morgan was wearing a green
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Girl Scouts t-shirt blue denim shorts and white sneakers Morgan stayed close to her mother hanging out with her on
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the bleachers the little girl enjoyed silly pranks and that night she was trying to trick her mother by climbing
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down by Colleen's feet and tying her shoelaces together sometime around 10 :30 p.m. according to Colleen Morgan was
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asked by some other kids to come and catch fireflies with them apparently it was common for the kids hanging out
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during the games to play on a hill with grassy areas and a sand pile this is adjacent to the parking lot Morgan was
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shy and at first she did not want to go but then decided to ask her mom if she could join the other kids yeah I saw it
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reported that the mom at first said N I don't want you playing away from us but one of the other mothers said hey it's
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common for the kids to go play over there yeah the tricky thing here is the time involved it's awfully late at night
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it's going to be dark out the yes it was the common play area for the ballpark and these two kids from my understanding
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they already knew Morgan it wasn't like they were new to Morgan right so this was a boy named Ty he is 10 years old
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and an 8-year-old girl named Jessica so I think it also helps when granting permission to go off and play in a
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different area that these two children are a little older than your six-year-old daughter yeah and I don't
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think this other mother was at a line to say hey kids play there all the time but
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baseball games are not played there all the time that late so this area is fairly well lit and colen said that she
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could see Morgan in the other kids running around from where she sat in the bleacher now she does admit that she
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occasionally lost sight of her daughter this play area was approximately 75 yard
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from where Colleen was sitting but then the game ended now it's right around 10:45 p.m. so not too much time has
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passed between granting permission to go off and play and the end of this game at
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the time Tai and Jessica the two other children ran back up to the bleachers but as Colleen quickly noticed Morgan
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was not with them when she asked the youngsters about Morgan they said they last Saw Morgan sitting in the parking
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lot she was emptying out her shoes according to the kids emptying out sand from her shoes and after that the two
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kids lost track of their little friend Colleen is now on high alert and she starts racing toward the parking lot
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given the situation the two kids just described Colleen assumed that Morgan would meet her at the car this is a
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Nissan stanza but when she got there to her car there was no sign of Morgan she looked for her in the area asking
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everyone if they had seen her but they had not the ballpark was clearing out and there was no sign of Morgan Colleen
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got the other parents and even some of the baseball coaches involved in this search someone with a cell phone offered
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the phone to Colleen and she called the police authorities were very quick to respond arriving within 6 minutes of
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Colleen's frantic call once on the scene the two little kids that were playing with Morgan Ty and Jessica told
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authorities that while they were playing a man that the two describ simply as creepy mhm this man came up to the three
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children and spoke to them well interesting since it's 1995 that somebody had a cell phone so that's
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lucky for them and good for the police to respond as quickly as they did do we have a report of what El Creo said to
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these kids we do and we don't and I think we can dive into that more later when we're looking at the details of
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this possible suspect but I think what we should talk about here is why he immediately becomes a suspect M so from
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the general understanding that we have in this situation we have about 300 people at this Ballpark and yes it's
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loud at times it's busy there's a lot going on these games were stretching far into the night much later than expected
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right this man according to these two children spoke with Morgan remember this this time frame this window of time when
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this little girl goes missing it's about 15 minutes pretty short right yeah this
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guy during that time frame speaks to this little girl and the two others right now the reason why we don't have a
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100% confirmation about what he said to the children is because police stated early on on this guy's a suspect and we
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are holding back the information of what was said to the children by this man right because we need something to weed
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out any possible false confessions or false confessors that may come forward right he becomes an immediate suspect
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because during the short window he interacts with the three children one of them who went missing and apparently
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once it is known that Morgan is missing has disappeared this man is gone too nobody remembers seeing him or his
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vehicle after they noticed that Morgan was missing right and I I think a lot of people would assume that this guy's El
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Creo is driving around in an El Creo van but but he wasn't so this man is described as having a short or clipped
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beard some reports state that it was an half an inch thick he's estimated to be about 23 to 38 years old about about 6
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ft tall 180 lb slicked back dark hair wearing denim cut off shorts no shirt or shoes with a hairy chest all right so he
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has a hairy chest and he's wearing Jorts he spoke to the kids in what they refer
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to as a hillbilly accent so I'm just assuming that these other two kids are possibly not from around there because I
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think this would be kind of a standard local accent cuzz it is arkans saw the two children were from Alma from the
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from that area or lived in that area who knows where they they could have been born in Alaska for all I know right so
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may but so maybe it wasn't common in in their local area yeah the the interesting thing here too Captain is
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that the two children were not the only ones to see this what we will refer to as quote the creepy man one female adult
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witness reported seeing the man as well she apparently also verified the description of the man she saw speaking
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to the the kids right she says she only saw him from afar but the important thing is she is providing authorities
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with a very similar description of this man later this woman was actually hypnotized by authorities in Little Rock
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to see if she could provide any more information unfortunately she could not now we will continue to revisit This
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creepy man that was spotted talking to the children Morgan being one of them we will revisit him as he is the Crux of
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our case of her disappearance other than the three persons we have already discussed the two children playing with
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Morgan and an unnamed woman no one else seems to have remarked about this to investigators and Morgan's mother never
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saw this creepy guy correct now nobody else coming forward this could be for any number of reasons it could be that
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this is a small town this man is known to locals and not seen as a threat and is really just a red
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herring or he could be someone who had a legitimate reason to be there that night
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so he didn't trigger any alarm bells or it could just be that no one other than our three Witnesses noticed this man at
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all right the creepy man that we have discussed is considered a suspect not just because he was seen talking with
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these three children but also because he was seen by the woman when Morgan is there and accounted for then just a
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short time later Morgan is gone and apparently this man seems to be gone as well well at some point Morgan's mom
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also saw her plane so we have a window of 15 minutes now we have a eyewitness seeing the creepy man we also have
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probably other sightings from Morgan's mother seeing Morgan play so you could narrow down this window to probably
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within a couple minutes of when she was actually taken a sketch of the man was circulating and a description of a
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vehicle that the creepy man may have been driving was also circulated shortly after the Abduction the Charlie project
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website States based on reporting at the time that Witnesses at the ball game said the unidentified man may have been
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seen near a red Ford pickup truck with a white camper which was about 5 in too small for the truck bed the Camper's
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windows were covered with curtains the truck TR had a dull paint job because it was clearly old likely vintage they
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estimate between 1968 and 1974 and had a short wheel base and was possibly damaged on its right rear end
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reports that it had Arkansas plates also circulated now it breaks my heart to report that Morgan she has never been
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seen or heard from since there are some really important aspects to this abduction
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that are key and unfortunately not very helpful to investigators no one saw Morgan leave the ballpark at all no one
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saw this little girl leave the ballpark alone or with anyone else she simply was
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there and then she wasn't well right and nobody saw her leaving because she was in the camper in the back of that truck
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it is usually reported in connection with this case that there were other attempted abductions around the same
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time and one in particular reported was that earlier that same day in a laundry mat in Alma there was a bearded man
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trying to pull a 9-year-old girl out of the laundry mat and into his truck somebody stepped in intervened and this
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abduction was stopped red truck uh it says his truck I don't have a description of the truck itself right
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also on the day Morgan was abducted June 9th 1995 there was another attempted abduction this was reported two from
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earlier in the day this is in regards to a 4-year-old in Alma the attempted abduction stopped when the girl screamed
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and was saved by her mother the suspect it's been reported resembled Nick's abductor the next day June 10th an
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attempted abduction of a 9-year-old girl is reported in Fort Smith Fort Smith is
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just about 15 miles away the girl reported a suspect resembling Nick's abductor tried to get her to go into the
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men's restroom with him but she resisted I do want to throw out a little caveat to everybody listening out there those
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three attempted abductions those are legitimate reports that we found I have some suspicions that there were actually
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only two right and that one of the the stories of an attempted abduction has kind of changed or you know been molded
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throughout the years so it sounds like it's a second report but there are two legitimate at least two of these are
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absolute legitimate the third possibly as well it's just important to point out here that we have at least two
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situations where somebody's stating somebody that looks like this same guy right possibly could have tried to
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abduct a young girl just within 24 hours of Morgan Nick going missing I will put
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the composite drawing on Instagram Facebook Twitter all that stuff at True Crime garage just a couple weeks later
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this is on June 26th a gardener claimed he saw Morgan this is Albert Harvey he's
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a gardener for state representative Wanda northcut he told police Saturday morning that while clearing brush from
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behind Mrs North Cut's home he saw a man trying to get into his truck he said the
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man had a blond-headed girl with him and when the man realized Harvey had seen him the man grabbed the child's wrist
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and fled into a nearby Thicket he claimed the man matched the description of Morgan Nick's alleged abductor right
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police concentrated their search on an area around Mrs North Cut's home Searchers ComEd the area on foot
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horseback and four-wheeled vehicles they used police dogs and a helicopter this article goes on to say the Nationwide
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search for Morgan has produced hundreds of leads but nothing con conrete a widely distributed composite sketch of
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the suspect shows a white man with salt and pepper hair and a short beard driving a faded red Ford pickup with an
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ill-fitting white camper shell police find nothing during this search not even a clue or a lead then Albert Harvey took
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a polygraph afterward he said he made the story up he apologized and had no explanation for more family yeah that's
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that's so stupid again that's why we point out that they hold things back to to weed out the The Crazies the false
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confessors that come forward this man just wanted to be a part of the story right and he offers a false lead to
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police the aggravating thing here for the victims and for the families is that police efforts are concentrated On this
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man's bogus story well yeah the the time and the effort they spent searching I mean you're you're a lying [ __ ] princess
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this is less than 3 weeks after the abduction this is this is crucial time here being wasted on a bogus story right
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it's very crucial and also if his story is correct it it's telling us something it's telling us that this perpetrator
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kidnapped this girl and that she's still alive and and that there's you know what
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I mean like it's false hope for the investigation and that the girl is still alive the 4th of July Baxter Bulletin
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newspaper ran a story about the TV show America's Most Wanted which ran a segment on Morgan's case just July 4th
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of that year right which produced a lot of tips some coming from other states Texas Washington and
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Alabama any leads that police were calling hot were run down and nothing came of the tips in the information
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provided by tipsters then on July 7 1995 less than a month after Morgan was abducted a backer bulletin headline read
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girls report kidnap attempt third such incident during last 10 days the article goes on to tell this was a possible
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abduction attempt in late June in Cotter and one last week so that would be late
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June or early July this took place in Mountain Home right the article does not describe the attempts just saying that
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the suspect effect in both cases resembled the composite sketch of the creepy man that was released after
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Morgan's Abduction the third attempt stated it's detailed and quite alarming taking place on July 5th and 6th when
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two men one described as 20 to 30 years old about 6 feet tall weighing about 170
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lb with short hair and a black beard wearing a black shirt and black pants now the other man is described as
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younger possibly a teenager with blonde hair uhhuh the younger man was driving an older two-tone brown car with
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Arkansas plates with 711 as the last three digits the two girls were both 11 years old and said
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the two men tried to pick them up in a Pebble Creek subdivision the report states that they tried to run the girls
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over when they refused to go with the men the girls said they saw the men again the next day after seeing them the
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second time they told their parents and the police were notified yeah there was an active Manhunt for these two men
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however Sheriff Benny Magnus who would have known a good deal more than what we have here to report stated he did not
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think these incidents were related to the Morgan Nick case well right and let's unpack this a little bit we have
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several eyewitnesses see possible other abductions and they state that there's a
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single individual and they mentioned this truck possibly a red or faded truck so it wouldn't be that uncomon if
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the abductions were going to continue that the perpetrator would switch out his vehicle for a red truck to a faded
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brown vehicle but now you have another suspect with that individual and and I think that's where
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they're they're separating the two well I think that presents a lot of good questions about the description we're
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given of this creepy man at the ballpark right how much do we really know about this guy we don't even know if the
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vehicle description is describing his vehicle right you know this guy was seen on foot we don't know if he if he walked
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to the ballpark and then then left on foot and the other thing too is we don't know if somebody was with him we don't
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know if it was a different vehicle completely yeah but we don't have anybody coming Ford stating hey that was
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my Ford red truck with the camper on it we also don't have anybody coming forward saying I was the man that spoke
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the clean people too yeah not just the animals that don't have thumbs right and uh the clean the clean humans that
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listen to the show watch out for the amateurs and cheers and Happy New Years to everybody in 1995 there were two
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supposed sightings of Morgan in the company of a man in South Carolina that resulted in a sketch being circulated
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that is available on the internet with a partial license plate nothing came of these two sightings that we know of but
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then on September 12th 1995 three people in a small town in central Arizona say they saw Morgan Nick
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three people reported seeing a little girl who looked like Morgan accompanied by a man matching the description given
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on the composite drawing driving a late model Ford pickup with Arkansas plates this is in PAC Arizona hundreds of miles
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west of where she disappeared police searched the town but found nothing well this is a scary suspect when you think
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about it eyewitnesses see a man at the Ballpark with a truck possibly a camper attached this this guy this individual
00:29:06
could be a nomad yeah and really with all of these stories whether it be a sighting or another possible abduction I
00:29:15
really just wanted to learn more of the details of such because they're really left out of these stories here and to
00:29:22
see if we can find anything that matches up with what we do know about Morgan Nick's disappearance and abduction
00:29:30
usually what I find here Captain is when you have that type of situation where it's actually not
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connected to the case at all or followed up on and it just really goes nowhere that's why there's a lack of details
00:29:46
because they're not really necessary to the story so one has to wonder is there truth in any of these other possible
00:29:53
connections or even some of the sightings of Morgan Nick but it does show you the grand scale of this
00:30:01
investigation and how everybody out there was aware of this missing girl right there is a story from May of
00:30:09
1997 and I'm not going to read the entire article because there are some details as as far as victim's name that
00:30:17
I don't really want to get into because again this is another situation that seems like it could be linked but we
00:30:24
don't have any evidence to 100% back that up but I think you'll find this story strange and interesting this comes from
00:30:33
May of 1997 in Spyro Oklahoma mhm this is where police were collecting ball game videos looking
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for clues in a girl's abduction right okay so yes this is another state away but remember we said earlier that Alma
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was only what 13 15 miles from the Oklahoma State state border right and this is a town Spiro Spyro however you
00:31:02
say it that will come up in this Morgan Nick investigation time and time again so that's why I find this story to be so
00:31:10
interesting this is a abduction a successful abduction not just an attempted one like we've already
00:31:17
discussed of a four-year-old girl it sounds to me the way that this article reads my first thought was oh [ __ ] this
00:31:26
little girl was abducted from a ballpark mhm just like Morgan Nick it sounds to me like her home was right across the
00:31:34
street from a ballpark right and she may have been abducted just outside of the ballpark or from her home from her
00:31:41
property regardless they were collecting you know Mom and Dad shows up with the video camera to watch their daughter or
00:31:49
their son play sports film everything well we have an abduction that took place if you were there we want to see
00:31:56
your video we want to see what is on that video what did you pick up in the background Vehicles did you actually
00:32:03
videotape unknowing to yourself the the Abduction of this little girl right or people taking pictures of their kids
00:32:10
playing playing games and what evidences in those photographs yeah and the reason
00:32:15
why I don't want to give out the victim's name here is again we don't know that this is connected it seems
00:32:23
very interesting not far away less than 2 years after Morgan Nick was abducted right same type of area maybe same type
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of ruse used fortunately this little girl was let go she was found hours later on the side of a of the Road
00:32:43
apparently I don't know what took place during the course of the time that she was missing but eventually her captor
00:32:50
dropped her off on the side of the road miles away well it's interesting too because a lot of the attempted
00:32:57
abductions were coming were on girls around the age of 10 or 11 so the other thing here too that I want to point out
00:33:07
is I can't say for certain that the this abduction is solved or unsolved I couldn't find any record of it after
00:33:16
this this situation of them finding the girl and collecting evidence right but we got the victim back and and seems
00:33:23
like she's unharmed I'm thinking of reaching out to her to see what information she can provide you never
00:33:30
know because sometimes these things are most let's face it most child abductions
00:33:36
are a a parental issue a custody battle where a parent takes the kid without the
00:33:44
other parent knowing or allowing to happen that could be the case here but I find this one very interesting now we do
00:33:53
know that in Morgan Nick's situation they did the same thing they were looking for anybody with a video camera
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with their camera to see if they could find evidence regarding Morgan Nick's disappearance on those videotapes on
00:34:09
those pictures the interesting thing really the really important thing I think that we have here 300 people at
00:34:18
the Ballpark of all that stuff that was collected we don't have any confirmation
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of this faded red Ford pickup truck on any of those videotapes or on anybody's pictures from that night which again I
00:34:34
don't think it's not impossible I don't think that's a as big of a deal it's once you add the camper element this is
00:34:42
a truck with a camper attached to the bed yeah the fact that that not seen in anything is is kind of odd but again I
00:34:50
don't think these these eyewitnesses were making that up I because I think there the devil's always in the details
00:34:57
and when they say the camper the camper seemed maybe 5 in too short for the bed of the truck mhm that that's detail in
00:35:08
October of 1997 the Baxter bulletin reported that the police had confiscated some items during a September search
00:35:18
according to the affidavit filed in Crawford County Police searched an unnamed man's home and vehicle the man's
00:35:26
name was was brought forward to police by another man who says he was friends with this now suspect for about 13 years
00:35:34
uhuh the suspect talked to the informant that's his friend or former friend whatever you want to call him about
00:35:40
Morgan's abduction after the informant told police they set up a video surveillance operation where again the
00:35:48
man made statements about Morgan's abduction this time on videotape police used this videotape to secure a search
00:35:57
warrant during the search of the suspect's vehicle listed as a dark blue 1988 Ford pickup investigators found a
00:36:05
glove and a piece of paper both with dark red stains on them which investigators thought could possibly be
00:36:13
blood right inside the man's home they found a pink toothbrush and hair fibers on a roll of duct tape when they
00:36:22
attempted to question the man he gave authorities his lawyers business card and they were unable to arrest the man
00:36:30
or even question him police are unable to move on from this man until the results of the test regarding the
00:36:37
mentioned items comes back right this would end up taking about a year for the results and when they come back police
00:36:44
are unable to link any of these items to Morgan Nick Captain this is where things
00:36:49
are going to get wonky and that's the best word to describe this I prefer things to be a
00:36:56
little wonky won well in 2001 wonky there you go in 2001 Arkansas authorities circulated a new sketch a
00:37:05
new sketch of the suspect suspected in Morgan Nick's abduction I hate when they do this and they did that with the deli
00:37:13
murders as well Deli they did it in Amy Mahal's case we've seen this actually this is more common than people
00:37:20
understand it to be often I find that it is a much shorter duration than what is this we're at five
00:37:31
six years now right yeah but it could be similar like with the deli murders they
00:37:36
actually had a sketch earlier they just didn't release it correct so this is this is what we know because that's
00:37:43
where you really go okay they're making a new sketch maybe they're just updating
00:37:47
the old one no they if you look at the new sketch that is not the same man that is in the first catch uhhuh that's
00:37:55
obvious and they have said so they've said that is the case now what they state in this in
00:38:01
2001 is that Arkansas authorities circulated a new sketch this one based on actual actual witness statements from
00:38:11
the ballpark and this sketch does not really resemble the sketch initially circulated right so I'm looking at the
00:38:18
first sketch or what I think is the first sketch thicker beard looks like thicker hair thicker eyebrows um
00:38:27
definitely a different nose a wider nose and a very distinct um Square jawline right and that's the original from uh
00:38:38
1995 and then and I wouldn't say anything from that original drawing looked it doesn't look that creepy then
00:38:49
you go to the new sketch and it's creep city which is a wonderful place to vacation with your family no it's not a
00:38:59
place that you want to go to you can't fly there on any airline that I know of the bad thing is it's right by Parts
00:39:04
Unknown so the thing here that I find weird too is we don't really know why these children describe this unknown man
00:39:12
or potential suspect as a creep right we don't have any details to back up that statement oh he was creepy because of a
00:39:21
b and c no we just have their general statement of a 10 old and an 8-year-old saying that he was a creepy man yeah but
00:39:30
again I think if you look at the original sketch from 95 it looks more cartoony to me so I think seeing that
00:39:38
I'd go H the creep Bells aren't alarming they're not going off but in this new one kind of looks disheveled kind of
00:39:47
looks like it's it's almost like a beard that it's the guy's not trying to grow out a beard he just hasn't shaved um
00:39:54
maybe possibly receding hairline again slicked hair but it almost like greasy not because they put
00:40:02
product in it or anything but it's just greasier hair and then the eyes to me they look like dead eyes but what's
00:40:12
interesting to me or what I want to know is how we got from this first sketch that looks nothing like the second
00:40:19
sketch yes and that's what I really want to talk about here but but also we have
00:40:24
to on some level reexamine all the possible abductions where people said hey the the guy that I
00:40:33
saw trying to abduct this girl looked just like the original sketch well one phrase that that hit me hard not too
00:40:42
long ago and I've repeated it a few times is and I found this during the course of investigating some of the
00:40:48
cases that we've looked into dou Cano is sometimes we see what we want to see even if it's subconsciously mhm where
00:40:59
when you're later asked what did the man look like well if he didn't look unlike
00:41:05
the suspect or unlike the sketch that was released you might say he looked like that guy rather than the true
00:41:12
statement would be he didn't look unlike that man right so you ask a very good question
00:41:20
how do we get from one composite to what is obviously a different man that is drawn in in and released to the public
00:41:27
in the second composite draw it absolutely drives me insane so I there's some good information on that regarding
00:41:36
in comparison the first sketch to the second one thing that I find interesting to Captain is the first sketch we have a
00:41:42
description of what the man is wearing he's wearing the cut off jean shorts no shirt they're called shorts no socks no
00:41:49
shoes in the second composite we get no description of what the man is wearing right originally
00:41:56
when Panic set in in the community when Morgan Nick was first abducted within the hours and days of the Abduction the
00:42:04
original thought by the locals was that this had to be some Outsider this had to
00:42:09
be some Maniac some sio pervert passing through that took Morgan and we don't have to be afraid because he's not a
00:42:18
local he's not here anymore when they released the composite a lot of that thought and fear shifted to that it
00:42:26
could be a local why the description of the vehicle states that possibly had Arkansas plates right then on top of
00:42:33
that when you really start to think about it too the description of the man shirtless with no shoes hairy chest I I
00:42:41
don't know I just don't see some guy driving from states away shirtless and shoeless that just pops into this
00:42:49
ballpark all of a sudden at 10:00 at night 10:45 at night and sees the golden opportunity and abducts this little girl
00:42:56
and it works out great for him nobody saw the abduction nobody knows who he is okay but hold on let's go back to you
00:43:03
you don't see a Outsider driving to the ballpark go over that why don't you see that well this
00:43:12
would have been off of the highway it's not like he just happened to happen upon
00:43:18
the ballpark and these unattended children and then on top of that what I'm getting at to me shirtless and
00:43:24
shoeless suggests that the man could be local more so than somebody passing through I would agree with you if there
00:43:32
wasn't a freaking camper attached to his truck if that is his truck right correct
00:43:38
you are correct sir the other thing you see what I'm saying that makes more sense if that is his truck and we have a
00:43:44
camper hey I'm just I'm I'm relaxing because I'm at home this is my home this guy is a he could be from that state if
00:43:55
the license plate suggest so but I almost feel like that this individual maybe went there not so much to abduct a
00:44:06
kid but hey we can go park at this at this baseball field and we don't have to pay for
00:44:15
Campground yeah and and now that I'm here and I'm just kind of lounging around oh well I am a predator and
00:44:24
there's victims all over the place the other thing I want to point out regarding the first information
00:44:30
regarding our suspect that came out was let's go back to our what the Charlie project website States based on
00:44:37
reporting at the time the witness at the Ballpark game said the unidentified man
00:44:43
may have been seen near a red Ford pickup truck with a white camper which was about 5 in too small for the truck
00:44:50
bed I'm with you Captain I like the detailed information there right the camper window windows were covered with
00:44:57
curtains again I like that maybe he's considered creepy cuz you don't see these campers all the time maybe they
00:45:04
just found the kids found that to be weird yeah I mean we did a big campaign last year about banning the van maybe it
00:45:12
should have been Banning the the creepy I call them Cowboy campers well yeah I don't want to how
00:45:20
about ban the creepy camper and it'll be a truck with a camper on it here's where
00:45:27
I think that the description gets a little wonky remember we're getting wonky here wi wonky the
00:45:33
truck had a doll paint job because it was clearly old likely vintage 1968 to 1974 with a short wheel base and was
00:45:42
possibly damaged on its right rear end reports that it also had Arkansas plates I'm just pointing out
00:45:52
here Tai is 10 years old the girl is 8 years old right we know from the woman's statements that she
00:46:02
said she saw this man but from afar we can assume two things either she's able to provide better detailed information
00:46:10
because she's older wiser more life experiences MH she's an adult these are two small children MH or she's able to
00:46:19
provide less detailed information because she's far away from this person yeah what what I'm trying what I'm
00:46:25
trying to point out here is right I don't think that the woman is the one that's we we have a statement from law
00:46:33
enforcement saying we like her information that she provided because it's backing up the information that the
00:46:38
children provided us which could be as simple as a vague description of this man and I saw him talking to those two
00:46:45
kids and the two kids later telling police we only spoke to one man and so that's their their validation for those
00:46:53
witness accounts right I don't believe or I have a hard time believing that this woman from
00:47:01
afar saw this man's vehicle or was able to provide a detailed description to down to the the the make of the vehicle
00:47:11
potential year of the vehicle I can get if she saw in the distance mind you it's
00:47:15
dark out right if she saw in the distance as a doll red maybe orange pickup you'd be able to see the camper
00:47:22
you would be able to see the camper that's about the best description you're going to get from afar in the dark so
00:47:28
what I'm getting at is this detailed description I have to believe comes from the two children I don't think you have
00:47:35
to believe that I think it's also very possible when they interviewed the 300 and some people watching the game that
00:47:43
somebody said well I didn't see this El Creo by the creepy camper but I I did see the truck and and this is what I
00:47:53
noticed about the truck so we can't 100% that's that's a possibility but we do have statements
00:48:01
saying that these are the only three Witnesses right there that nightes of the man we do know that
00:48:08
police were looking for videotapes and for photographs that would contain any of the information that the witnesses
00:48:13
saw and couldn't find any of that I'm not questioning if the truck is there I'm not questioning that one bit what
00:48:20
I'm stating is I I believe that the description of the vehicle could be coming from the children if that's the
00:48:28
case regardless if it comes from the woman who's afar or the children the description of the vehicle is too
00:48:35
detailed to come from children or to come from a woman who who in her own words says I only saw the man from afar
00:48:43
she never says I saw his truck she never says that I saw him up close or standing
00:48:49
by the truck I find it weird that a 10-year-old or an 8-year-old is saying that this is a late model vehicle with a
00:48:57
short wheel base yeah yeah I get that there's probably damage to the vehicle that a child would recognize that a
00:49:03
child would Pro would definitely recognize Arkansas plates the reason why I'm going through this whole Tail Spin
00:49:09
here is because once you change the composite sketch of the suspect now you change a lot of what very little we and
00:49:19
the police know of this abduction or possible suspect you asked a damn good question why do we even have a change in
00:49:27
the composite sketch at all well I'm sure a lot of people were thinking that but the only evidence the only work that
00:49:34
I could see done on the reason why it changed came out in 2018 many years after Morgan Nick was
00:49:43
abducted and many years after the composite itself changed one investigative journalist and
00:49:50
you can find these articles on today and Fort smith.com fortsmith as many already know is not very far
00:49:59
from from our location in question right this reporter and some of this information is backed up by police but
00:50:09
not 100% not 100% backed up not verbatim not word for word just a few of the details have been confirmed by police in
00:50:19
in a statement to which they are kind of apologizing or saying that there were missteps in the investigation yeah what
00:50:26
this steps in every investigation the the problem is we're we're not calling anybody bad at their job when you're
00:50:35
investigating something you are you are following a phantom it ain't easy to follow the moves of a phantom when you
00:50:44
have to piece it all together there will be missteps that's how you that's how you eliminate the the innocent people
00:50:51
from the one guilty person yeah especially in a case like this I mean it's we have we have several people in
00:50:57
the location but very few eyewitnesses and then we have this very like you were saying it's very Willy Wonky situation
00:51:04
where you have young kids as eyewitnesses now we have this odd vehicle this truck with a camper that's
00:51:12
just odd in general it's it's very Willy Wonky the description changed according
00:51:17
to today in Forts smith.com [Music] because it was not based off of the abduction of Morgan Nick that the
00:51:27
original composite sketch that was put out that contained what this man was wearing and not wearing along with the
00:51:34
vehicle description came about from witnesses to the other attempted abductions that took place police at the
00:51:43
time having no information to go off of they believed that they likely could be connected and because of whatever this
00:51:52
to me also points out the lack of information provided to them from the three Witnesses at the Ballpark yeah
00:51:59
they're going with this because they have nothing else to go on and what they said was we made the composite of a man
00:52:05
that was seen in one of the other abducting abduction attempts showed it to our three Witnesses at the Ballpark
00:52:12
and they said yeah on a scale of 1 to 10 it's an eight and so that being the only
00:52:17
thing and only information that they went off of right they released it to the public it's a it's in desperation
00:52:24
that they do this and they're doing this regardless if anybody thinks this is an
00:52:29
error a mistake or just wrongdoing they did this in desperation because they were trying to find anything they could
00:52:36
to lead them to this little girl and bring her home safely all right so you're saying that this whole report
00:52:42
that he's wearing Jorts and he has a hairy chest this is not coming from thy Witnesses of the ballpark this is coming
00:52:51
from the the other attempted abductions that's what's confusing here and that's why I question the the vehicle
00:52:58
description I question the clothing description because we know that the man's description has changed what we do
00:53:05
have is police later saying when when they say look we had to do this and this is why we didn't have to do anything
00:53:13
they they I mean don't fault them they feel guilty for it they feel bad for it right but they didn't have to I'm not
00:53:19
going to fault somebody for for doing what they believe In the Heat of the Moment to be the right thing you could
00:53:26
easily say that these attempted abductions We Believe are linked to Morgan Nick's disappearance and what
00:53:36
that perpetrator was wearing at the time was this so the statement that the police gave in
00:53:44
2018 regarding the clothing because that's that's the next question that everybody wants to know well you you
00:53:49
changed the composite but now we're realizing we also have this description of a vehicle
00:53:55
we have description of what the suspect may or may not have been wearing does that change the answer simply put was
00:54:02
they had a hard time confirming between the three Witnesses at the Ballpark exactly what the man was wearing that
00:54:09
night so rather than make another mistake they chose not to include it on the new composite that came out 5 six
00:54:18
years later well I can understand why people would be confused when you see something that
00:54:24
looks like Je but they're short like shorts that's confusing well again a lot of people don't see Jorts
00:54:32
the problem here is is simply put what we St stated earlier nobody saw Morgan Nick leave the ballpark nobody saw her
00:54:40
leave alone or with somebody else or nobody heard a scream nobody saw a man grab a child and throw the child inside
00:54:47
a vehicle and speed off right but had that gone down we would have a better different description from the two
00:54:56
children and from the woman from afar plus we would have other eyewitnesses that would have noticed something going
00:55:02
on right when you have a situation where nobody knows that something wrong is about to happen you lose some of those
00:55:10
details you people are not really focusing in or honing in on certain details at the time
00:55:16
because life most of the time is just ordinary this was just an ordinary moment until later they realized that
00:55:24
this girl was missing well I don't think so I think uh I think Mother's intuition
00:55:30
I think when her daughter was saying when Morgan was saying let me go play and the mom said no we're not going to
00:55:37
do that I don't think it was so much that it was dark she saw other kids playing I think that was Mother's
00:55:44
intuition that something right something's not right and then she got reassurance from somebody else don't
00:55:51
worry they play here all the time and then she let her out of of her sites and and but I think that was some something
00:56:01
T her don't don't let your daughter go play the other thing too and this is just a reminder like we've done in so
00:56:07
many other cases Amy mahalik comes to mind immediately if you suspect someone or
00:56:14
suspect something in regards to someone you know or maybe you only kind of know them right do not hesitate to provide
00:56:24
that information to authorities just because anything given in either composite would cancel out your
00:56:32
suspicion well and like like you were saying there was a couple there was at least one abduction where they say there
00:56:38
was a truck but they believe the truck was blue if the eyewitness accounts of the truck with the the camper maybe it
00:56:47
wasn't red maybe it was blue and and but that's the stuff that frustrates me because somebody could be reading the
00:56:55
newspaper let's say in 1995 and says okay well this kid was abducted oh I kind of know this weirdo he has a he has
00:57:04
a red truck or he has a blue truck or whatever color truck he has he has a brown truck with a camper too small for
00:57:12
the bed kind of strange but it doesn't match the Des or it has Texas plates or you know there's one thing that's off or
00:57:22
a couple things that are off and you go well I'm not going to call him call it in I don't want to disrupt his life
00:57:28
because it can't be him cuz he's not from Arkansas or any other number of reasons and the problem is then you
00:57:34
learn later on years later that scratch that you really know nothing about the likely suspect
00:57:42
right in 2010 Federal investigators this took place in um November Federal investigators searched a vacant trailer
00:57:54
home in Spyro Oklahoma for DNA evidence in the Morgan Nick case again this is where we hear that town name again they
00:58:03
zeroed in on this trailer because they received a tip they searched the same area again on
00:58:10
December 18th and 19th 7 years later in 2017 and a cadav dog alerted to a well that was found on the property but
00:58:20
nothing was found in the well right but they could be alerting to some remnants of of of something yeah there
00:58:30
was nothing found in regards to Morgan's case and apparently this tip was from a
00:58:36
Narcotics officer who alerted police to the abandoned home which belonged to a convicted child molester who was in
00:58:44
prison at the time of both of the searches mhm the tip technically didn't pertain specifically to Morgan's case
00:58:52
but because the guy was on their suspect list they searched it right and he may have just been on the suspect list
00:58:59
because of where he was living and that he was convicted child molester right i'
00:59:04
would like to know what his vehicle history was back to our creepy guy captain in the cowboy camper with the
00:59:12
faded red truck or who knows what he was driving called the creepy camper further according to the 2018
00:59:20
investigative reporter looking into the case this is the one that I feel put out some good information you
00:59:27
can call it a leak you could call it speculation what have you it's thought-provoking regarding Morgan
00:59:34
Nick's case that I'm hoping does not dry up this investigative reporter said that
00:59:41
the FBI profilers that took a look at the case concluded early on that the shirtless man seen talking to the kids
00:59:49
was not a likely suspect really they thought that it would be certainly strange for someone shirtless and
00:59:56
shoeless to abduct a child in his somewhat ragged appearance seems to indicate that he was likely a local who
01:00:04
live nearby what they are kind of suggesting here Captain is maybe this individual didn't belong to that vehicle
01:00:12
to that to that truck maybe it was somebody that lived nearby that happened to be passing through on foot or had a
01:00:18
reason to be at the ballpark right shirtless shoeless is awfully casual yeah again I don't find it that casual
01:00:26
if your if your house is in the back of your truck right but I think what the the FBI profilers are pointing out here
01:00:34
is a couple things one we don't know if this man that was seen that spoke to the
01:00:39
children in fact took Morgan right that's just the suspicion two we don't know if he and the vehicle belong
01:00:46
together right three we don't even know if he had a vehicle there with him right
01:00:51
I want to get into some of the details of that night one I question immediately the time
01:00:58
frame 10:30 at night who's playing a little league baseball game at 10:30 at night it ends at 10:45 I I'm not going
01:01:04
to lie I questioned a little Colleen allowing her six-year-old daughter to go off and play away from her that late at
01:01:12
night right but that's fair to question because she questions it herself correct
01:01:17
and and I I throw no fault at her especially when you have locals people that you know and trust telling you all
01:01:23
the kids go over there and play L we Bal the going to be over pretty soon I think that the where you would
01:01:33
think that the number of people in the ballpark that evening that night would help you in this investigation you know
01:01:42
it gives you more sets of eyes more sets of ears I think in this situation it may
01:01:47
have hurt the investigation I wonder if we have if we have a crowd that's active
01:01:53
that's loud that it's involved in the game my understanding is it was a tournament that was going on that day
01:01:59
right and that's why they had played so late because it's probably the championship game and they're trying to
01:02:03
get it over with well not only that my understanding is the game was supposed to the game that they were watching was
01:02:10
supposed to start something like 2 and a half or 3 hours earlier than what it actually started and you and I growing
01:02:19
up we played in soccer tournaments uh you probably played in baseball tournaments I was terrible at baseball
01:02:25
that's why I like to watch it I was bad at baseball too but I played in tournaments so now with me you watch but
01:02:32
the regarding these tournaments and basketball tournaments so on and so forth we all know that if if the first
01:02:37
game runs long or if there's any kind of slip up in between games it pushes everything back and then if there's
01:02:44
another slip up or another game goes long it pushes everything back right and further and further and especially in a
01:02:50
tournament setting where you need to win or lose to determine DET who moves on you can't have a tie these games can go
01:02:58
Extra Innings well and you also have people traveling from out of town that's why I saying that they'll push things
01:03:04
back and and maybe not use their best judgment because I I look I just don't think it's safe to have that many kids
01:03:12
and and those that many unknown people in this park you know starting a game at almost 10:00 so I've always wondered
01:03:22
about Morgan's case one simple thing that we don't have anyone that saw her snatched and grabbed and taken away we
01:03:32
didn't have anybody hear a scream or a yell there's nobody that witnessed an altercation between a little girl and
01:03:40
creep man right so you have to wonder two things is it possible that she went willing with this individual it could be
01:03:48
that she thought she knew him she knew him he offered money or a reason to get into the vehicle and just Qui
01:03:56
anding or did he actually have to grab her and abduct her and take her away and it was just missed because all the eyes
01:04:05
are on the baseball game and there's cheering going on and there's noise and you don't you don't hear a little girls
01:04:12
yell or scream 75 yards away because everybody next to you is yelling and screaming it it's just one of those
01:04:19
tricky things where I I keep going back to what the sheriff has said time and time again in this case that it's such a
01:04:27
simple case and that's what has made it such a difficult case to investigate she's there one minute and then she's
01:04:33
not there right and we don't know what information we can trust from some of the witnesses especially when it's
01:04:40
compared to these other abductions the one one of those abductions that may have contributed to the description of
01:04:47
this man this is not verified by police I couldn't find a statement them confirming this but what the statement
01:04:55
was from the article that I was reading was that they were putting forth the idea that one of those abductions was
01:05:02
actually a custody dispute right and that later that's what was that's what prompted police to change the composite
01:05:12
sketch of what they later released saying this is from actual Witnesses from the abduction or from that night at
01:05:18
the Ballpark because then they later find out oh the man that tried to take one of the these little girls in one of
01:05:25
these situations it was a custody dispute that's why I wonder if the the vehicle description that is so detailed
01:05:33
if it may have come from someone that knew that man or saw that vehicle up close and personal or saw it for a
01:05:40
longer period of time rather than what these children at the Ballpark saw yeah it it bothers me like like I said um but
01:05:50
if the FBI is look they have the best profilers they done profiles on individuals where they they say some of
01:05:57
the craziest stuff you know like we think that the perpetrator's favorite color is orange you know or he might
01:06:05
have a disfigurement or a speech impediment or he's you know there's all kinds of things that are interesting
01:06:12
yeah but but when they're correct and and it's like this very tiny detail of how the hell did they know that how the
01:06:19
hell could they profile for that detail mhm and so for them to say well look we got no shoes we got no shirt we're we're
01:06:27
thinking this guy is a local guy again I don't know the ballpark that well so the
01:06:33
ballpark from my understanding is now a parking lot I was trying to look up the ballpark even if I couldn't find
01:06:39
pictures from 95 if I could find something closer to today to get I could not find anything yeah to get an idea of
01:06:46
the layout and the size I really wanted to know the size of it and what was in the immediate area because some of the
01:06:52
ball fields that we played at growing up some of them were very small containing
01:06:56
one one one Diamond one Diamond maybe two others contained or play a lot of baseball I was I kept wanting to call it
01:07:05
a field court was it Court was it Court I was more of a field guy no cuz yeah cuz some places you know when traveling
01:07:13
for music and stuff like that I'd see these one diamond in the middle of town and there was just a couple parking
01:07:20
spots around it it it's almost like people just parked at their houses and walked to the diamond and then there's a
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lot of other places that have multiple diamonds and so you just wonder again because we don't have that information
01:07:34
on hand uh it's hard to get a perspective but again I I just don't see look I'm no FBI profiler most of the
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time I'm a giant idiot but I just don't see that it's that hard for people to think if this individual stop stopped
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and parked there to stay I'm with you with a camper that makes sense that why wouldn't they just throw on some sandals
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and you know I just came I just woke up from a nap and I have no shirt on and I got this hairy man chest and I'm going
01:08:10
to show it off the little peacocking the wannabe profiler in me tells me that this ball field the ballpark whatever
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you want to call it is probably on the smaller scale because if the games did in fact get pushed back to the point of
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two and a half hours to three hours delay right if they had multiple diamonds you could easily move those
01:08:34
games to an open diamond right you see what I mean rather than rather than just making everybody stuck there for an
01:08:41
extra three hours but hold on I've played a lot of softball tournaments and sometimes what happens it's somebody
01:08:47
that got into the loser bracket and they just kept winning and then it became a sit situation where it's like well we
01:08:56
think that this team you know you have to lose two games and you're out well the team with one loss ends up
01:09:03
destroying a bunch of teams getting and facing a team that only has that has no losses and they have to beat him twice
01:09:10
in a row so that might be a reason why somebody got pushed back so far but I also question how again I people from
01:09:20
this town will know and and hopefully we can get some conversation on the blog about these diamonds and and how many
01:09:30
were were they and how how were they connected to the rest of the town and were they buy a lot of
01:09:37
residencies I'd like to know that because I think that could give us a a better uh outlook on this case the other
01:09:44
thing too that you have to question is the profilers or the FBI agents that worked this case early
01:09:51
on they unlike us would know exactly what the children said their conversation was with this
01:10:00
man the information that they've been holding on to yeah because again there could be something very simple in that
01:10:08
conversation of oh yeah that's that's my truck or well the profilers are the ones
01:10:13
saying that they think it's unlikely now I question a lot of this stuff because we don't have actual agents names to
01:10:21
apply and to attach to these statements of we believe that the man that spoke to
01:10:27
the children the shirtless man is an unlikely suspect M but one thing that comes out in some of these articles
01:10:34
Captain is that this was leaked this is not confirmed but it was that the man came up to the children and yelled at
01:10:42
them because they were breaking bottles and he was concerned about broken glass in the area and in the parking lot right
01:10:49
if in fact this is true that's where you have the FBI agents going okay he he has
01:10:54
a reason he has a purpose to speak to these children because of their actions rather than something he's trying to do
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therefore we don't think he is a likely suspect there's a chance that the man just doesn't recall speaking to children
01:11:08
that night or spoke to many children that night what I what I do call into question is why has this man not come
01:11:15
forward just like you pointed out earlier with the very detailed description of that truck if you saw
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that description of that truck or heard it immediately and that's your truck you
01:11:25
know that's your truck you it's not there's no question about it right yeah well no and the the camper also somewhat
01:11:32
makes some sense as far as like travel baseball goes is because you'd be playing this tournament and you would
01:11:39
you know one of my neighbors has a big camper and they got the big camper to start going to their grandkids sporting
01:11:47
events and they just thought what a great way to go and it will give the family A a place that they could hang
01:11:53
out and during during their off times so it makes sense for a lot of the people that were possibly at the ball Diamond
01:12:00
that night to have something like that there is a statement that I found captain that does offer some hope for
01:12:07
this investigation and that comes from Chief Russell white he is the alma PD police chief back in
01:12:16
2015 he acknowledge that they have a quote lead suspect in the case but not enough evidence to make an arrest right
01:12:27
which that is very hopeful and and again but maybe we can create some kind of conversation some dialogue as far as the
01:12:35
blog goes go to True Crim garage.com if you have any information about this case
01:12:39
even if you think it's very small put it out there there's a lot of intelligent people that visit the blog and and put
01:12:46
out information and some theories not not not that we always agree with them uh but we
01:12:54
I like actually posting the ones that I don't agree with because I think it's a different Viewpoint out there like I
01:13:00
said I think we can create some dialogue hopefully that helps maybe even create a
01:13:04
new lead or a new angle that they could go after this suspect with after receiving more and more invitations to
01:13:14
speak at schools and churches Colleen Nick formed the Morgan Nick Foundation which is a nonprofit headquartered in
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