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grab a beer let's talk some true [Music] crime Thursday November 21st 1985 Malibar
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Florida it had been mostly a clear day and relatively comfortable by Florida standards a 19-year-old woman was
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walking down the quiet and friendly streets of Malibar her trip to Florida seemed far less eventful than she had
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hoped for this young woman was in town for from California she had planned to stay for a
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while and visit some friends who had recently moved from California to Florida it was around 1:00 p.m. the
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temperature was a steady 80° she was getting tired of walking that is when a car slowed down
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and pulled over to the side of the road just feet from the young woman the car was average looking the windows were
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down and she could hear the radio being turned down as the car's wheel slowed to
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a complete stop the driver was average looking as well he was a man in his mid-30s or so
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at least that was her guess he looked very Florida she thought he was thin about medium height with dyed blonde
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hair and a Florida tan where are you going do you want to ride he yelled out looking at her
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through the passenger side window that was in the fully down position the young woman approached the car and
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leaned in she told the man where she was headed he told her he would be happy to
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accommodate her she jumped in the back seat and the car pulled from the curb and continued down the street they had
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some quick chitchat what's your name where you from sort of stuff he seemed nice enough she thought the man said
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that where the young woman was going was near his place of work and good news for
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her that was where he was going as well he told her that he was on his lunch break
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and due to be back to work soon he was going to head to his house real quick and pick something up he had
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a notebook there that he needed to collect for work he said after the brief stop the
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two would be on their way it didn't take long and the car was turning into a gravel driveway the house looked nice
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bigger than normal with a good-sized yard the house was somewhat nestled back off of the road behind some full grown
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trees she could feel the temperature of the car's interior cool a bit when the car pulled into the driveway under the
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shade of several trees the vehicle stopped the man looked back at her and said well this is it
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this is my house we have a couple of minutes would you like to come in for a drink he asked
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no thank you she replied he asked again oh come on he said it would be quick no thanks she
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replied the man got out of the car and he walked around to the back of the passenger side he opened up the door to
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the back seat this startled her a bit again he was asking her to go inside the house with him and again she said
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no that is when the man reached over her he put a rope around her neck with both
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hands then he twisted the Rope she grabbed onto the Rope herself but it was no use it was too late she
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was too small and he had control of her the man tightened the Rope again and this time he leaned back and leveraged
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his weight against hers he easily pulled her from the car the Rope around her neck in the hands of this man was now
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dictating her movements she tried to fight back but he Dred dragged her from the car he forced
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her down to the ground then he started pulling her toward the house dragging her slowly a
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couple of feet at a time she could feel her body burning as she was dragged along the dirt and
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gravel she could feel her neck burning from the Rope digging into her skin and now she couldn't
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breathe she was becoming weaker with every tug of the Rope the Rope was so tight that she could not scream for
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help the man dragged her from the car across the yard over the threshold and through the
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doorway she couldn't scream she couldn't breathe her vision had gone black she gasped even convulsed trying to get air
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her hearing was gone then she blacked out the this is true crime [Music] [Music]
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garage the woman whose real life nightmare we just described was 19-year-old Laura Murphy the young woman
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woke up unsure of how long she had been out she was fully restrained she was tied up and tied down to a countertop in
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the kitchen of her abductor she was nude the man had ripped the clothes right off
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of her he was naked too then he raped her she blacked out again when she came to she could tell by the lack of
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sunlight coming into the home that it was now much later in the day the man was inserting needles into her arm he
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was withdrawing blood from her what are you doing she screamed at him he looked at her and said calmly I'm taking your
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blood out I'm a vampire she turned her head she could see a beaker filling with her blood and
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then she blacked out again this time she woke up she was handcuffed and naked she
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was in a water bed with the man now it must have been morning time she thought her wrists were handcuffed together and
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her ankles were cuffed as well she was very weak from the whole attack by this time she did not know how long she had
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been inside the abductor home or how many times he had raped her and how much blood of hers that he had quote taken
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out after the assault the man moved from the bed to a nearby bathroom he pushed her to the floor inside the small
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bathroom and closed the door she could hear him locking the door from the outside she was hysterical but she
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forced herself to be quiet she wanted to try her best to stay awake and to see what she could hear maybe she
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could try to determine what was going on outside of that bathroom she wanted to see if she could
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hear the man coming back but things seemed to quiet down and after a while she thought that perhaps she had heard
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the man leave she heard what sounded like the front door closing a car starting and the driving off now if this
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were true the man had not secured her good enough and even though she was bloodied beaten and very weak she
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thought that she had just enough left in her to try to make an escape because if
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that man came back he was going to kill her once he was done with her and there was no doubt about that in her mind this
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was her chance one last chance to save her own life she managed to get out through a window she wasn't able to get
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her wrist and ankles freed from the handcuffs however once outside she was forced to crawl
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so she was incredibly weak and she didn't know how far she'd be able to make it or how much longer she had our
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victim is trying to save herself but she doesn't know if her body is going to be
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able to sustain her escape and she has no clue really what time of day or night it is exactly because she's been
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blacking out she's in and out during the course of this attack her abductor is in
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control of everything she's not aware how long she's been held captive by this man who was draining her blood so she
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doesn't know it Captain but it is actually just before noon on Friday November 22nd
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1985 and she's crawling alongside of Hall Road in Malibar Florida this is when a passing motorist finds her so
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this person driving gets out of his car he runs over to the woman she told him that several car had already passed by
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without helping he told her that he was not going to leave her there and that he
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was going to get her some help so he pulls her up puts her back onto her feet helps get her into the car and she's
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begging him don't make me go back to that house that house he asked which one she motioned to a house not too far away
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one that was nestled off of the road behind some large trees the woman in a very weak voice told the man do not
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forget that house that is the house that I just escaped from this is our Good Samaritan of the week here Captain he
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picked her up and he took her to his house lucky for him there's other people there to assist once they arrive his
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mother-in-law was there to try to help calm the woman and make her as comfortable as possible while our Good
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Samaritan called for an ambulance and then called to the police at the hospital this young woman Laura Murphy
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was told that she has that truly she was just hours away from Death she had lost
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a little more than 40% of her blood Miss Murphy told police that she was visiting
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from California and a man had picked her up hitchhiking he had stopped by his house
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under the pretense of picking up a notebook then thrown a rope around her neck dragged her inside the police
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determined that the woman had been held captive for about 22 hours wow she told the police everything that the man did
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to her or at least everything that she could remember right she went on to tell them that the man also used surgical
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equipment to drain her blood into a jar then he drank what he could the house and the location both described to
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police by the victim and the Good Samaritan was determined to be 2180 Hall Road Malibar Florida the the house
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belonged to 39-year-old John Brennan crutchley crutchley lived there with his wife and four-year-old son after hearing
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the victim's story detectives got a search warrant and descended on crutch ley's home we should point out here
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captain that the Good Samaritan we are talking about is Thomas Frank Harper so as law enforcement is going to
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investigate This Woman's claims they're also going to speak with this Good Samaritan yeah Frank the Tank Harper
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they need to talk to him find out what he saw what she told him right because she's transported to the hospital she's
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in a very weak State she may have given him valuable information and now she's unable to pass this along to police so
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they're going to get some details from him and they're going to talk to his family as well and the strange thing
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here is he actually lives very nearby John crley but he tells the police that he did not know the man and had never
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spoke with him even though the two were practically neighbors once at the crutchley home they do speak with John
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crutchley he told the detectives that this was all a misunderstanding he said yes that he did
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pick up the young woman from California in his car and yes he did take her to his house but crutchley said the victim
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was quote a second generation Charles Manson follower and she' consented to kinky sex with him none of that mattered
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the police had their search warrant and they were coming in crutchley they said was fidgety invisibly nervous during
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their interaction with him once they were inside of his home police quickly learned that crutchley wife and
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four-year-old son who lived at the house as well they were out of town for the weekend visiting her
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parents in Maryland so this is right around you notice the date it's right around the Thanksgiving holiday so his
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wife and son traveled back home to see her parents for the holiday yeah when the wife is away the psychopath will
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play crutchley tried and tried to plea his case to detectives remember he's sticking with
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his story that the woman had consented to this kinky sex with him and that he had done nothing wrong he told police
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that he had done this with other consenting women in the past and he was into this sort of sex with bondage and
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pain and that women were into the sort of thing too he told them that the blood was just another part of the Kink and
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that oftentimes the bloodletting was performed on both the woman and himself as well crutchley almost seemed
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excited to talk to the detective about the blood letting but at some point his fast talking slowed down then he was
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quiet then he became hysterical and he was crying in front of the officers this is after police found items in the home
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confirming the young woman's story she's still at the hospital but they're finding evidence of everything that she
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said happened that this monster did to her detective Leo who was on the scene later said quote I think it was starting
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to set in that he was going to be arrested and I think he thought that's why crutchley started crying in front of
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the officers police arrested John crutchley and they collected plenty of evidence from his home this included
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ribbons rope and leather restraints they also found a jar of hair clippings nothing strange about that
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chains marijuana and drug paraphernalia dozens of women's necklaces surgical type equipment tubing needles
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and the jar that was being used to drink the woman's blood can you imagine being
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law enforcement and hear in this psycho try to minimize every action that he did against this victim well and as a
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you know cop and detective you're walking around as you're walking out and you're seeing other officers arrive on
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the scene or you're talking to officers just outside of the house after they've been inside themselves you're going yeah
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been on the force 15 years been on a lot of calls this one might be the strangest
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one yet in the end Captain John Brennan crutchley was was arrested on 11 charges
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including kidnapping robbery aggravated battery possession of a controlled substance and two counts of sexual
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battery following the arrest he was held without bond in the brev County Florida
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jail the police were calling him count Malibar and the newspapers called him the vampire rapist so who is this psycho
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vampire this is one of those things right you you make the arrest in this case and to law enforcement anybody on
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the scene anybody that talked to the victim anybody that talked to crutchley as well looks pretty darn guilty of some
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pretty heinous crimes but don't hit the stop button yet here my garage friends because this
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story is truly just getting started for those that tuned in last week you already have some sense of where the
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story may be going right plus our Florida listeners who followed the news and following true crime in the 80s and
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90s know that this is a huge story with tentacles stretching far and wide to not
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just unsolved murders but also women disappearing in Florida but also we need to include several other states as well
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now John Brennan crutchley at the time of his Florida vampire case arrest was 39 years old living with his wife Karen
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and son at 2180 Hall Road he was an engineer in the government systems division of
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Harris Corporation which has locations in Orlando Palm Beach and Melbourne Florida now th those areas are all
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fairly close together you could drive to all three in about a matter of an hour and a half's time right crutchley moved
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to Florida in 1983 keep in mind this case is 1985 so he's not been in the state for terribly long now I've not
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been able to pinpoint the exact date when he moved there we do know it was in 1983 I did find some information that
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that states that he moved there in June of 1983 but we don't have the exact date
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which could come into play when we start talking about some other cases that we might try to tie him to the thing that
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gives us that June date is we know that he started working at the Harris Corporation in June of 1983
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so that would make some sense it is noteworthy to to know that the Harris Corporation was highly involved with
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NASA research and launch facilities and a contractor of the Navy as well so due to the nature of his work crutchley also
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had top secret security clearance at several facilities and access to classified materials remember last week
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we spent some time discussing security clearances especially at the the Norfolk Navy base up in Virginia last week we
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have spies this week we have vampires growing up John was just one of four kids unfortunately the eldest child a
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daughter passed away at the young age of 13 this was more than a year before Jon
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was born and her death was due to health issues it is believed that this is why Jon's parents chose to have more
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children because there's a gap between the ages of these children this was an affluent family in
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Clarksburg West Virginia John would later claim that his parents subjected him to severe abuse his mother spoke
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with newspaper reporters and said that John made that up we know that during the sentencing process a review of
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mitigating factors are taken into consideration to arrive at what should be the proper punishment for the crimes
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that a person is on trial for I can't say captain if Jon was abused or not but it would not be the first time that a
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convict fought for leniency by lying about his childhood it becomes chicken or the egg or nature versus nurture I
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can say this Florida detectives interviewed John's mom and are on record stating that his childhood was anything
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but normal details TBD I guess right now early in his adult life John cretchley moved around a lot in some cases this
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appears to be out of necessity for things like education jobs and maybe even his
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spouses I think one could also make a strong case that in some cases he may have been running from something so can
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I point out something here that that I know to be true in a couple of one-off homicide cases that we've covered but
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also in some serial offender cases MH knowing if you if you are one of these types of bad guys knowing that you are
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going to move states away far away for legit reasons is a scary thing to ponder when
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you are talking about these types of bad guys right that they know that they're going to move or they're going to be
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called for military service or they're going to go off to college somewhere they're going to be taking a job in a
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state three states away 3 months from now well to these types that means now I can do some damage here and I can
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just Burn Rubber and get out of Dodge yeah it's almost like they look at it as a window of opportunity crutchley was a
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smart kid he had no trouble with classes that he took an interest in but his grades were terrible in the subjects
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that he did that didn't hold his attention right one thing that a lot of men find of interest is that someone
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like John who who we already know is not just a strange bird but quite a sick and
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depraved individual he seemed to possess the ability to find relationships fairly easy you know those
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with the fairer gender soon after high school he got married this was 1969 he's only 19 years
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old this will be his first of two marriages then after the marriage he earns a Bachelor of Science degree in
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physics from Defiance College in Ohio this is in 1970 he then goes on to earn a master of
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engineering degree in an engineering administration at George Washington University in Washington DC so we know
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that he was in West Virginia as a boy we know he's in Ohio as as a 19-year-old young man and now we
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have him in Washington DC just the following year and what and the question that law enforcement is going to have to
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start asking themselves is when do we think that he started his his when do we think he started his
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criminal activities yeah because the very bizarre behavior that he's arrested for in 1985
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down in Florida he's 39 years old at this time and we've talked about this plenty of times on the show that the
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average age of an active serial killer is mid to late 20s now after his time in DC then he and his first wife they move
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out to cooko and we are not talking about the Beach Boys cooko of course we are talking about cooko Indiana the
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Aruba Jamaica o I want to take you to Bermuda Bahamas come on you pretty mamas is that
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how it goes we're talking about cooko Indiana the number one Numero Uno vacation
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destination in America there he was working for a company that accused him of stealing
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like $4,000 worth of some kind of equipment uh so then he and his wife they're already having marital problems
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you think and him losing this job likely was the straw that broke the camels back
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poor camel after cooko he moved to Fairfax Virginia and remarried in the mid 70s John then
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worked for several high-tech firms in the Washington DC area including TRW a and logicon process systems now at
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the time of his 1985 Malibar Florida arrest he was successful with a well-paying respectable job his
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neighbors said that John his wife and four-year-old child were as quiet as their
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[Music] [Music] neighborhood all right we are back cheers to you mates tall can in the air
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cheers to the people in the back right the home and property where John and his wife lived I think is a little
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interesting here Captain this is a three-bedroom two bath nicer sized home it's well landscaped it's a little out
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of the way so he's not you know he doesn't have any really close neighbors it's a 2.7 acre lot complete with two
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separate living quarters a swimming pool slide and a swing set there is an open space that John called the pasture area
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the lot includes double carports and John owned a bunch of motorcycles and a red mg sports car plus he also owned
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another vehicle that we're going to talk about here in a little bit that will be
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more important to our investigation John crutchley is arrested in the early morning hours of November
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23rd 1985 so un fortunately several hours would pass between the time that his victim escaped from his little
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vampire layer by knocking out the bathroom window climbing up and then falling face and shoulder first to the
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ground outside to win the time that the police can get the actual search warant and get to the house and get inside the
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house so of course that's going to be problematic but it happens all of the time when seeking a search warrant so if
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in fact that is the case John crutchley is going to have a little bit of time from the time that he
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gets home from work realizes that she's gone to the time that they can get this search warrant he's going to have some
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time to try to destroy some of the evidence and there's a part of him that wanted to go lay down in his coffin to
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reenergize his vampire spirits but he knew that he had to clean a real vampire would have worked the third shift but uh
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John's one of those one of those fake vampires yeah the other part of this that sucks
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but is also understandable is that he was held so at first he's held without bond and then that's changed to $50,000
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Bond remember he's got a good paying job so he just pays this and he actually gets out for about four weeks You' think
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they would say that he's a Flight Risk right I would think so but I mean this is the definition of caught red-handed
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he could turn into a bat and at any time just fly away yeah and you don't want that to happen right so he he gets this
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we have this weird scenario here where and I think a lot of this has to do with the crimes right I there's not there's
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not a bone in my body that doesn't know that this guy would have killed this young woman Laura Murphy he just didn't
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get the opportunity to he was going to slowly kill her over the course of that weekend that his family was gone she
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luckily for her was able to escape so I think because he's not charged with murder he's charged with just about
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everything that you can be except for a homicide and murder that he's allowed to
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make this Bond pay the bond and he gets out like I said he's out for approximately four weeks do we have any
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clue what's happening with his family during this time period because if I came home and my husband was accused of
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kidnapping raping and sucking the blood as this victim I wouldn't be sticking around well I don't know exactly what's
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happening between you know inside those four walls she's just walking around with piles of garlic on her husband and
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wife but but what's weird here is I do know in the end she did divorce this man at some point and I think good good for
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her yeah and I don't think we're far away in our timeline from that divorce but but she also kind of defends him
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publicly as well so what I what I'm getting at is I if I had to take a guess at it I don't think that
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she is she clearly wasn't throwing them under the bus when she talked to the newspapers but the well I guess there's
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a piece of for every piece of yeah but what's going to be problematic here is remember police and detectives
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are always at a disadvantage in this little game right this little investigation game they're because of
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the nature of what they do they're always one step behind right the crime is committed and then you start your
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investigation so you start off behind the ball well not to point this out but you can't start the investigation before
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the crime happens it's not Minority Report but in this in this situation what the police do not know I bet you
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the season detectives are guessing this that we might have to look at this guy for other crimes but the thing here is
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you went and you investigated the crime that he was accused of by Laura Murphy you arrested him you place him in jail
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now now he's there's going to be a delay until there's a trial he makes bail and
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he gets out for four weeks so while you later will determine that you need to investigate this guy for other crimes he
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now has bought some time of four weeks so that during this time he can what evidence there may have been he has the
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opportunity to hide conceal burn bury and Destroy any of that evidence yeah and and I know we've caught her a victim
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of what we should be stating and it's obvious she's a freaking hero yes because if she doesn't get out if she
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doesn't save her own life then we we might never be on to this guy we might not be able to look into this vampire
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quote unquote into other crimes he would have just kept doing what he was doing so not only did she save her life but
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she might have saved a ton of other victims lives so a whole lot of red flags here we're going to talk about
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about some of the things that they found in the searches right because they they
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end up ultimately conducting multiple searches on this guy leading up to his trial so the H is searched and we did
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talk about some of the items already recovered from his house I left out dog collar so listen to this report
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detectives quickly learned of crutch ley's kinky violent behavior in his house they found dog collars ropes
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chains and surgical equipment used to drink his victim's blood so if you are a detective captain and you enter the home
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of a sexual satus blood Drinker and you find a bunch of dog collars and no dog well that's an uncomfortable situation
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you you think hey um nice dog collars uh where's your labber doodle and then listen to
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this so you know that your guy is likely a Serial abductor when you find the following okay so this is part
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of the report when police were conducting their search of crutch ley's home they noticed crutch ley's Nissan
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stanza automobile all of the markings identifying the make and model of the car had been stripped off and he had
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used black tape to cover the logo the Nissan logo on the hubcaps because he couldn't remove it but any of
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the other Nissan marks or stanza marks have been markings have been stripped off the vehicle you're only doing that
00:35:08
to try to go undetected not only is this guy a psycho that's going to try to kidnap you rape you and kill you but
00:35:16
he's also cheap cuz he's not going to buy new hub caps right he could I guess he could have just replaced him but he
00:35:22
he taped over him and then this son of a gets out for 4 weeks a couple months before trial and he had to be
00:35:30
getting rid of evidence at this point so this is from a jailhouse buddy of John crutchley this dude's name is Jackie
00:35:39
Horton Horton was awaiting trial on robbery and false imprisonment charges when John crutchley posted his bond
00:35:48
December 2nd so remember he's arrested on the 23rd of November he's end up he's able to pay to get out on December 2nd
00:35:58
he not only paid his but he paid Horton's too because they had become buddies talking in jail so when Horton
00:36:06
gets out of jail with John crutchley Horton moved into John crutchley Malibar home so he could suck each other's blood
00:36:15
well Horton later told police that crutchley wanted sex and then on one occasion Horton said
00:36:21
he feared for his life when crutchley began choking him during intercourse said quote he was holding
00:36:28
onto my throat and I had to use both of my hands just to contain his hand so he a bisexual vampire well Horton had other
00:36:37
news for police and this is even more disturbing according to a sworn statement Horton gave detectives after
00:36:44
crutchley got out of jail he began Gathering items from the safe that was located in his home the
00:36:51
computer room and other parts of the house and Horton said that crutchley filled about a third of one of those
00:36:58
large trash bags and when crutchley was finished filling the bag he left the house on
00:37:04
foot to dispose of the bag and he returned about 20 minutes or so later and he says quote he just advised me
00:37:14
that it was best that I didn't know what he was doing end quote he also told Horton that he should stay in the house
00:37:21
and ignore what he was doing for a while Sheriff's detective Bob left row recently said that the location and
00:37:31
contents of the bag continue to haunt him and everyone else who has investigated the case quote we've done
00:37:38
everything air searches ground searches water searches dog searches the detective said is it still out there I
00:37:46
just don't know I would love to find it yeah cuz I wouldn't want to open that bag but obviously it's important for
00:37:53
their investigation kind of reminds me of the OJ Simpson travel bag I'd really love to
00:38:00
know what was inside what the contents of that U that bag was well and remember police are responding to an abduction in
00:38:09
a rape case right they're not responding to a homicide or a serial killer case when they but do you think do you
00:38:18
actually think law enforcement is so dumb to not see where this crime was heading no no I don't think that for one
00:38:26
bit right but I'm pointing that out because what we do have is a a gentleman that gets involved in this case is
00:38:34
Robert westler who we know is legendary mind Hunter FBI profiler one of the first to start the profile MF FBI yeah
00:38:44
one one of the first to start the profiling business so he gives his two cents about this case and he's saying
00:38:53
conventionally trained police officers just aren't trained to see certain things the things that you know he he's
00:39:00
saying that he worked on the Jeffrey dmer case and that police there miss dozens of items that would have been
00:39:07
seen if they had been trained to you know so he's he's saying that you know if if me and John Douglas and and other
00:39:15
individuals from the FBI were the ones to respond to the scene that they would be looking for different things than
00:39:22
what your regular cop would be looking for yeah because I felt like again Captain Obvious normal detectives have
00:39:32
to be vast vastly versed in what they look at and the different crimes they look at where the profilers are
00:39:43
experts in certain areas of the Criminal Mind that most detectives will never encounter well and to to the credit of
00:39:55
law enforcement especially the one in this case again it I think it really boils down to you are responding to a
00:40:03
call right you are you're already behind the ball there you're responding to a call when the FBI is called in and
00:40:10
responding and going to a house they're already pretty sure like you know we're only being called in because this is a a
00:40:17
very serious offender right like and I know that it gets a little confusing to the listeners and even to us because we
00:40:24
talk about a serial killer once a month here in the garage most police officers and detectives will
00:40:30
work their entire career and never investigate a serial killer they they they never will it's just it's a rare
00:40:38
type of offender and so I think that you become seasoned to that and used to that and
00:40:46
that routine over the years that most of your killers that you will encounter and
00:40:52
investigations that you will work during your career are people that simply kill
00:40:56
one person and so I think that when you walk into that scene I think that Robert wrestler
00:41:02
is correct that they are not trained to search for certain things and look or to
00:41:06
see things the way that that Robert wrestler would see them if he were at the crime scene absolutely he very
00:41:13
likely would have conducted his search in a different manner but I don't think that we should look at that as a
00:41:20
critique or a criticism of law enforcement because again they are responding to the call that they got but
00:41:28
aren't they the ones that have to then call in the FBI so correct well and which they did in this case yes and
00:41:35
every time this happens it it's like I just want to scream from the rooftops if you're not an expert call in the expert
00:41:42
you don't have to be the smartest guy in the room you don't have to be the smartest guy in the garage you just have
00:41:47
to be the guy that set up the microphone to record that guy and you can get pretty far in life by doing that I'm
00:41:54
proof of it well and the detective here letho I really like this guy he this guy
00:42:01
has a a a passion for his work that he does in a in a very with like the cut of his jib he's very passionate about this
00:42:10
case in particular and I've heard him speak about this case and I will say this like he at times sounds like a
00:42:20
defeated confused man because I think he worked this as best as he could and I don't think that the Cas or the
00:42:28
investigation went to where he thought that it could um but again no judge should have let this man out well you're
00:42:37
right I I agree with that and I understand that we we have a system that is supposed to be innocent until proven
00:42:44
guilty but when there's crimes that are this heinous and we have a definitive victim here we there's no question that
00:42:55
she was a victim by somebody right so therefore we go hey until we can figure this out it's in the
00:43:04
best interest of the public and the best interest of this investigation to leave
00:43:10
this pile of vampire wannabe in in jail right and the thing is he's not he's not necessarily caught
00:43:21
red-handed but when you have a woman who as you pointed out so rightfully so is very obviously the victim of something
00:43:29
you pick her up she gives you the statement and then you go inside this guy's home and you find needles tubing
00:43:35
surgical equipment and a beaker that was used to drain her blood guess what you go into to thousands and thousands and
00:43:45
thousands of homes you're not going to find any of that stuff so that stuff to me very much confirms her story as being
00:43:52
true as being real as being factual you have the guy uh so he he's not caught red-handed but he looks incredibly
00:44:00
guilty so I'm I'm with you and of course of course there's a lot of people in this story and in a lot of true crime
00:44:07
stories that look back and wish that they would have done things differently right but we also have a credible
00:44:14
eyewitness and he can State for the record when I found her and in the state that she was in she pointed to this
00:44:23
house and who lives there the guy that we arrested and this guy doesn't get to go free he doesn't get a chance because
00:44:32
again go back to that bag what's in the bag if they could find the bag what other crimes does that possibly connect
00:44:42
him to is that the nail and the coffin no pun intended in this case and possibly other cases so to the police's
00:44:51
credit here they did conduct a search of his office so John ley's work office at
00:44:58
Harris Corp was searched and that search was conducted on December 20th 1985 crutch ley's office at Harris Corp
00:45:07
was searched after they fired crutchley on December 20th and then denying him access to the plant before he could
00:45:15
retrieve his personal belongings so I I don't have enough detailed information here to say this 100% but I what I
00:45:22
believe this to mean here Captain is that while he was arrested on the 23rd he doesn't get out until December 2nd I
00:45:31
don't think he had access to his office at any time from December 2nd To December 20th when it was searched right
00:45:39
and I think that it was I don't know if they were just doing things by the book and and waited until he was officially
00:45:46
fired from that job before the search was conducted but we do know a search was conducted so investigators in his
00:45:56
desk they found a wallet insert you remember those old inserts that you would put in a wallet this insert
00:46:03
contained an identification card belonging to a one Patty valinski and it also had pictures of a little boy later
00:46:14
police would learn that the pictures of the boy were of Patty valin's son right so they find this at
00:46:22
crutch ley's office now they also found a identification belonging to crutch ley's first wife and to a former
00:46:32
roommate and I don't want to go too down too too far down this path here yeah the
00:46:38
rabbit hole over the years I've heard a lot of different versions of ID cards and driver's license that
00:46:46
they found in this case some of them even State like well we know he killed 12 or 24 women because they found 24
00:46:56
different drivers license when they arrested this guy and searched his home and his office or they found 12
00:47:02
different driver license and identifications cards in his home right you know the the the true the the real
00:47:09
story you you can go read all those if you want there they're certainly out there and you can go listen to them too
00:47:14
they're certainly available for your earballs and your eyeballs but the true story from the mouth of the detective
00:47:22
who led this case and did this investigation St we found four four identification cards or
00:47:31
driver's license and we've been given we've been told who those belong to so one of them was this Patty
00:47:39
valinsky the other was his first wife and the other was a former roommate now the first wife and former
00:47:47
roommate they're still alive they're obviously not murder victims so where did the fourth where does the fourth
00:47:54
identification card come in so earlier when detectives searched crutch ley's house and this is to their credit
00:48:01
where wrestler believes they may have missed some things this this I believe shows that they were conducting a very
00:48:08
thorough investigation and this comes from the detective's mouth so he says when we we were searching crutch ley's
00:48:14
house we discovered a driver's license belonging to the kidnap and rape victim right and the detective says quote John
00:48:23
felt he'd beat us he'd gotten rid of all the victim stuff but he had to keep her California
00:48:29
driver's license he couldn't let it go he put it in the little pocket of a soaking wet bathing suit that's how
00:48:37
crafty he was he figured no one would pick up the wet bathing suit well they did and when they were there they found
00:48:45
that driver's license in that bathing suit confirming 100% near 100% that that woman was in
00:48:54
his home as she said she was he that's that's interesting the psychology of what the that's what the detective's
00:49:01
talking about the psychology of this man that he he was there at the home and had
00:49:06
opportunity to get rid of evidence it's fascinating but he couldn't he couldn't part with this driver's license he
00:49:13
needed to keep it for some reason and he tried to hide it from the detectives thinking they would never find it and
00:49:21
then he could keep it later as some kind of trophy it's fascinating because it's
00:49:26
the the Obsession the addiction is is is so strong that I that he couldn't part with this
00:49:35
item and almost like that he would lose connection to the crime that maybe he would lose connection to the fantasy
00:49:46
of the crime if he lost this item so I mean it's fascinating well and he had a good attorney too so when you have a
00:49:55
good attorney and you have the means to get out of jail and you tell your attorney who has to work as a fiduciary
00:50:02
for you and you tell him look I I want to be out I want to be home waiting for this trial rather than sitting in this
00:50:09
jail cell so your attorney is going to go before the judge and and point out all the reasons why you should be
00:50:18
allowed to to pay the bond post the bond and get out of jail and of course the attorney does this so it says you know
00:50:25
he's a he's never been arrested you know my client has never been charged with anything this is all a misunderstanding
00:50:31
he's able to P post the bond he is contributor to society he is the bread winner for his family his wife and son
00:50:42
depend on him and depend on his income so you make all these reasons why he should be allowed to leave and so as
00:50:48
said he posted that Bond so to to kind of complete our timeline a little better here crutchley is out of jail and free
00:50:56
to roam the State of Florida from December 2nd when he posted bond this last until January 9th this is really
00:51:03
interesting this is where the judge and the prosecutor I think got a little creative because I don't I'm I'm with
00:51:10
you Captain he shouldn't have been leted out you wish that he wouldn't have been
00:51:14
leted out I think that the judge and the prosecutor wish that he wouldn't have been let out as well and I think that
00:51:19
this is evidence of this so well because it's a it's a dangerous time period it's
00:51:23
just like if we rewind for a second what you said when a psycho knows that they're going to move it's a window of
00:51:31
opportunity to commit crimes and then once I move I'm not going to become a I'm less likely to become a suspect but
00:51:39
you have the same scenario when somebody's released from prison and if in his mind if he starts thinking hey
00:51:48
they really got me on this crime and and there's no chance that I'm going to get
00:51:54
away with this I might as well commit more crimes before I go away for the first crime so he's out until January
00:52:02
9th yeah and I love this move right here so the judge then decides leg well he decides oh your very important
00:52:14
respectable job that you have remember I I let you out I let you post bond because you are a contributor to
00:52:21
society you are bread winner and you you have to take care of your wife and kid and the house and everything
00:52:28
oh Harris Corporation fired you because you're a vampire I wonder if that's what
00:52:34
they put on the the paperwork yeah reason vampire um like that's an easy HR move right
00:52:41
vampire yeah why were you fired from your last position well they said I was a vampire and they don't like vampires
00:52:49
so the judge then goes well you are no longer contributing to society you don't have a job you are no longer providing
00:52:56
for your wife and child because you lost your job so your ass is going back to jail and waiting for this trial so they
00:53:04
they raised the bond from 50k to 500k wow and that is why he was returned to jail to wait for his trial now we're
00:53:14
going to fast forward from January to June thankfully he's behind bars all that time so June of 1986 John crutchley
00:53:22
pleads guilty to three of the 11 charg so they had a bit of a plea agreement here he pleas guilty to three of the 11
00:53:31
charges the rest were dropped this is Circuit Judge John alun listen to this this this guy got
00:53:40
creative here as well yeah so John alun sentenced crutchley to 25 years in state
00:53:47
prison which was which was the maximum that he would be allowed like and you know judges have a lot of power but the
00:53:54
but the state determines what the maximum sentence can be in a lot of these cases and so in a way here judge
00:54:02
alun he he's a bit handcuffed himself he really wanted to put this dude in prison
00:54:07
for life because he thought he was so dangerous such a danger to society that he should never be able to leave the pr
00:54:14
Prison Walls but he's Bound by the state to only 25 years which was the maximum so he gets 25 years in state prison with
00:54:24
psychiatric treatment and after that he's going to get 50 years of probation now that's what the judge could do that
00:54:33
he gave him 5050 years of probation which is really interesting to me because one that makes it a lot easier
00:54:41
for him to go back to prison but two if the probation is properly conducted then
00:54:48
he should be checking in meaning you can keep tabs on this guy a little bit right
00:54:54
at least at least you'll have some some checks and balances here with this very dangerous man and you're hoping that he
00:55:01
has to spend the full 25 years in prison and maybe he would Age out of this sexual Devany or or even this violent
00:55:10
nature that he has well what's great is hey let's put him on probation if he sneezes and accidentally farts he's
00:55:17
going back to jail but I I think maybe the play here and let me know if you agree is we
00:55:27
think that we can get him on other charges and maybe he's possibly connected to other crimes so if we get
00:55:34
him behind bars and we know that he's going to be there for 25 years now the public is
00:55:39
safe and now we have a chance to build cases against him that then will put him away in prison for life and to give some
00:55:48
credit where credit is due Robert wrestler was called to testify at the trial yeah and or at the sentencing I
00:55:57
should say and wrestler testified and told the judge look look I've been doing this a
00:56:03
long time I've seen a lot of these guys this guy is one of those guys this guy is a serial killer I believe he's killed
00:56:10
before I believe he will kill again if it were up to me judge I would lock him up for his entire life and throw away
00:56:17
the key but as we all know you can't punish someone for something you think that they did or think they will do you
00:56:25
have to punish them on something that you can prove that they did so they were a little bit limited as well everybody
00:56:31
wanted this guy to go away forever well I shouldn't say everybody we'll see that
00:56:35
in just a minute but almost everybody wanted this guy to go away forever but their hands were tied a little bit so
00:56:41
they gave him the best sentence I believe that they possibly could now his family some of his family expressed
00:56:48
shock and outrage at what they call the harshness of the decision his wife Karen
00:56:56
tell the newspapers I can't see why it meaning the punishment exceeded the guidelines
00:57:03
and crutch ley's wife Karen said quote it was a gentle rape hard to believe that a woman would say that to which I
00:57:12
respond listen dummy there is no such thing as a gentle rape no and I think if you are convicted of rape you should
00:57:20
spend the rest of your life in prison because that victim has to deal with your actions and has to deal with that
00:57:30
assault for the rest of their life they're affected for the rest of their life so you should be affected for the
00:57:37
rest of your life and and stay in prison hey vampire boy come take your dog collar off and stay a while get cozy cuz
00:57:47
you're going to be doing more in prison than just sucking blood want to thank everybody so much for
00:58:01
joining us here in the garage stick around for part two and until then be good be kind and don't
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