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[Music] in part one we discussed The Disappearance of 34-year-old Micah holsen bake The Disappearance of
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20-year-old Bailey despot and the driveby shooting of murder victim age 38 James colad two missing one killed all
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within 33 days of another the families of the three were United drawing media attention and working with police in mid
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2019 police said the cases were in fact connected after the horrific discovery of the arm inside the duffel bag murder
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victim Micah his father Lance holsen bake said that the family thought that they would feel better once they knew
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what happened to Micah but the knowledge that he was dismembered was hard to take
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his mother Cheryl said quote really difficult to not only know that your child was killed but that someone
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thought so little of them that they dismembered them and threw them out like trash and the other question is they're
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not able to tell us whether he was dismembered when he was alive or postmortem one year after she last heard
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from her daughter Bailey Jane said quote I cry more I go to counseling it's just
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hard not knowing where your kid is and thinking she's possibly chopped up like Micah end quote and James's mother said
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that the three moms had become very close during their time together and they lifted each other up the three had
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lobbied the kar County Board of Supervisors to fund the secret Witness Program of the Kern County Sheriff's
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Office to facilitate anonymous tips Jane was determined to find her daughter Bailey and suspicious of Bailey's
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boyfriend that she was living with Matthew Queen Jane was right to be concerned and suspicious as just
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mentioned Queen had two pending criminal cases against him at this time and both
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were for being a felon in possession of a firearm these charges were brought after Bailey and Micah disappeared and
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he would soon rack up more charges well let's take a look at what one FBI profiler said about this case yes
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Captain as we mentioned an episode of Dr Phil of the Dr Phil show which aired in
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January 2019 brought national attention to the Bakers field 3 case now a former FBI profiler named Candace Delong
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addressed the case positing that one person killed Micah and was also involved in Bailey's disappearance and
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someone else connected to that same killer shot James quote there is a connection between the three they ran in
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the same circles they knew some of the other parties involved and those other parties were involved in criminal
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Behavior gun running illegal gun sales and drug sales end quote that's what dong said she also said that she
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believed Bailey knew what happened to Micah and that in turn put her in danger the same man probably ordered the hit on
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James Miss Delong must have had inside information because her profile of the killer was
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eerily accurate she said he was a white male 35 to 40 who cohabits with a woman and also has kids quote he's a violent
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guy and people know that he's a scary guy he's also smart and dangerous end quote he likely drives a macho car well
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I'm no expert I'm just a captain but it sounds to me as if the profiler is des describing Matthew Queen I think that's
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spot on my friend by January 2019 some information started to trickle out about the Bakersfield 3 case which was being
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worked by Bakersfield Police Department at the time with the assistance of the Karns County Sheriff's Office so in June
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of 2018 the Sheriff's Office executed a search warrant the news agency kg reported that the search warrant
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revealed that law enforcement was investigating Bailey Micah and Matthew queen as well as three others for
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manufacturing and selling illegal guns remember Micah had told his dad that he was providing guns for people MH before
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he went missing James was shot and killed leaving the home of a doctor who was arrested on illegal gun charges
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Bailey had been arrested with Matthew Queen in December of 2017 on gun charges the guns that were found in Matthew
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Queen's vehicle when they were pulled over it was beginning to look like one big gun conspiracy for the Bakers field
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3 Jane told kg quote the stuff they were involved in these people know they all know each other it's a big circle of
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criminal activity over here in rosale in July of 2019 your boy Matthew Queen Captain was
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arrested again charges unrelated to Bailey but these are still very serious and scary charges they were kidnapping
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burglary manufacturing and assault weapon possession of a firearm by a felon and resisting arrest and those
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weren't all there were also charges of assault on a person with Force causing great bodily injury making threats with
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intent to terrorize and brandishing a deadly weapon other than a firearm that last charge is particularly frightening
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to me I don't know exactly what that means but here's a rundown of that incident Captain while out on bail he's
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already in trouble now he's out on bail and he's still up to no good after the December 2017 gun arrest in January
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Matthew Queen and two others went to the home of Caleb seeler seeler was involved
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in illegal gun manufacturing and drug dealing along with Matthew Queen Matthew Queen and his cronies were granted
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access to the home by seer's roommate somehow they either pushed their way in or the
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roommate let them in my guess here Captain is that the roommate felt extremely threatened or saw guns and
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said you know what I'm not getting killed today Matthew Queen is wearing a bulletproof vest he's now in seer's room
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Caleb seer's bedroom right and he's waving a gun and yelling seal when Matthew Queen walks into this room
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is actually asleep with his girlfriend so he starts to wake up he wakes up to see this dude and a couple guys with him
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Matthew Queen's in a bulletproof vest waving a gun and shouting threats at him and his girlfriend Matthew Queen accused
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Caleb seeler of snitching to the cops about Queen's possessing guns resulting in the December arrest
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so here's one thing that's really would be very interesting to know about this story because this situation of
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Matthew Queen and Bailey despot getting pulled over in that car and all those guns
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being found in the vehicle seems to be a really big kicking off point or one of the kicking off points in this whole
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case right the information I would like to know and I know this is probably going to come out sooner rather than
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later and we'll get into that here in a minute but the information I would like to know
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is why were they pulled over why was that vehicle pulled over because it's pulling them over that leads the cops to
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finding all those guns in the car now we have to look at this through Matthew's perspective Matthew
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Queen he again is either paranoid because he's up to all this criminal activity or paranoid because of the
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criminal activity and drugs drugs it gets very difficult to say but what what the issue is here Captain is that we
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don't know why that vehicle was pulled over and I would love to know why because Matthew Queen seems to believe
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that his car was targeted and he was targeted because somebody snitched on him that ratted him out that hey this
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guy's got all these illegal guns and maybe they just pulled him over willy-nilly or found a reason to pull
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him over because they knew guns were inside yeah if if somebody calls in a tip to law
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enforcement yes you can't just they can't just go pull over that vehicle but they can follow you and they can nitpick
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any little thing that you do wrong oh you you turned and you didn't use your turn signal oh we thought you got a
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little too close to that curb you're not wearing your seat belt right you sneezed
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the wrong way yeah you're picking your nose a little too deep so again it would be interesting to find out why he was
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pulled over because because that whole incident is what leads us to this portion of our story
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where he's now in this Caleb sealers bedroom waving a gun wearing a bulletproof vest threatening this dude
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it's because he accuses Caleb of snitching to the cops about him possessing guns that resulting in his December
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arrest he also accused Caleb of ratting him out about the location of a gun safe
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he then forced Caleb into a Chevy Silverado at gunpoint where Matthew Queen sat behind him holding a gun to
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his head during the drive and per bakersfield.com one of the victim's roommates said he looked scared to death
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that Caleb looked scared to death as he was forced into this Chevy Silverado it's said that they drove around the
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city with Matthew Queen interrogating Caleb about all kinds of different things threatening him and saying things
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like he was going to smoke him right now one topic that seemed to be of concern to Matthew Queen was the identity of an
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individual whose name was redacted in police reports Matthew Queen had these police reports in his hand while he's in
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the back of the Silverado gun to Caleb's head threatening him he's got the police
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report and it says who snitched on him but that name has been blacked out he can't see who snitch on him well he's of
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the belief that Caleb possibly could have been the person whose name was blacked out from those police reports
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Matthew Queen tells Caleb that the snitch could only have been one of two people it was either him Caleb
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or it was who he was then referring to as his ex-girlfriend Bailey right so they eventually drove to the river and a
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van down by the river and Matthew Queen forced Caleb to walk into the river with
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the gun muzzle pressed against his head but for whatever reason Matthew didn't shoot Caleb it's not clear why he would
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let him go but first he took the cell phone batteries from both Caleb and his girlfriend remember she was in the the
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bedroom with Caleb he took the cell phone batteries out of both of their cell phones Caleb this guy he was so
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scared he later told investigators that the two of them left town he and his girlfriend just left town he stated that
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he did not want to stay in Bakersfield for any reason at all because he was afraid of what Matthew Queen could do to
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him this is a scary situation right and th and this information is going to get back to law enforcement yeah somehow
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it's not clear who reported it I have a hard time believing that it would be Caleb or the girlfriend because they
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clearly just wanted to get out of Dodge and it may be fact it may be the truth that somebody else filed this
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report and later police found Caleb Andor the girlfriend and interviewed them at that time but somehow this whole
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kidnapping threatening to kill Caleb story makes its way to the police and in July the police decide well we're going
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to go talk to this Matthew Queen guy about this specific incident so when they showed up at a construction site
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that Matthew Queen was working at he sees police he decides to run he's jumping fences and scrambling over
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obstacles we have uh pieces of the charging documents here that say he being Matthew right disregarded
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numerous commands from officers climbed over several fences onto the roof of a business and ultimately entered the
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river where he continued to ignore officers commands for more than one hour it almost sounds like a little bit of a
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standoff here right Captain so this Matthew guy he's he literally jumped into the river and he's clinging to one
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of those concrete pillars later charging documents allege that while resisting arrest he tried to he's like egging the
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officers on trying to get them to shoot him well come on if Queen was a black man they would have shot him
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when he's first started running and jumping those fence and now he's taunting them there should be like a
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taunting penalty like there is in the NFL you taunt the police too much they get to hit you with their Billy culbs
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this Matthew Queen is a a lunatic yes yes the lunatic and and amongst other things as well now Matthew Queen knew
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that he was cornered he eventually surrenders in the situation afterward they searched his home and his car and
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of course they found a handgun like that described by Caleb a non-registered semi-automatic rifle was also found and
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a loaded 30 round high capacity magazine and they found drugs as well now as a felon Matthew Queen was not supposed to
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be in possession of any guns and he was already on bail for the December 2017 weapons arrest this guy gets in trouble
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he continues to get in trouble and even when he's threatened with jail time prison time he's going to continue to
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get in trouble because he's a career criminal he's a person that's just going to offend and reoffend again and again
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and what we're also seeing here Captain is this dude is going to go and enforce amongst others when he is
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threatened with punishment he's going to threaten punishment on those that he think may have led police to him right a
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very dangerous person because they they have nothing in their life they have nothing to lose and they have no care in
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the world nor do they have any empathy for anybody or these career criminals like this they're almost a just a
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different breed of human right it's almost like they're not really human at all right um that they
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don't share the same brains or Souls that the rest of us do so Matthew Queen he ends up being held on bail of over $1
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million thankful on two firearm possession charges and one charge of ammo possession more
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charges were piled on this in December uh late December December 31st to be exact including two counts of possession
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of an assault rifle and two counts of possession of a firearm and ammo by a felon police still had not charged
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Matthew Queen in any of the Bakers field three cases though nor had they even named him as a suspect ector a person of
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interest by this point now that he was locked up they could take their time and the families felt more at ease now that
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they could help work the case with police and that this Matthew Queen could not hurt anyone else yeah and because
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he's behind bars that you also then hope that other people then come forward with
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more information yes and it that's when you Circle back and you start questioning people that you have tried
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or attempted to interview before and you're starting off the new conversation with going you do know we have Matthew
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Queen in custody and he's not getting out now we need to talk to you about this this and this yeah because you
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could give us more information that keeps him away from everybody else and keeps everybody safe and and possibly
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locks them up for the rest of his life and you may the risk of retaliation by Matthew queen that has diminished
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greatly now the problem though captain that the uneasy feeling that many are still going to have
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is clearly what we're seeing here by this point in our story it's obvious to everyone that a lot of these people are
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running in these circles that involve a lot of criminal activity and so you have Matthew Queen
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who obviously seems to be some kind of enforcer some kind of psychopath but you know he might not be
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the only one Within These circles that you need to be afraid of so it's a really it's a I mean it's just really a
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horrible horrible situation that no one would want to find themselves in the middle of in May of 2020 there was a
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huge announcement from the karna County's DA's office a massive investigation including DNA testing cell
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phone triangulation wirs prison call recordings multiple search warrants social media review and scores of
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interviews resulted in many criminal charges here is the press release in its entirety on Wednesday May 27th 2020
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district attorney Cynthia Zimmer was joined by Bakersfield Police Department chief Greg Terry and announcing the
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filing of first-degree murder charges against Matthew Queen and Bailey despot for their alleged roles in the 2018 of
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Michael holsen bake James colad Michael holsonbake and Bailey despot have been referred to as the Bakers field 3 as
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they were a group of connected people who were either killed or went missing in 2018 the murder charges are part of
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criminal filing that includes 34 criminal charges encompassing alleged criminal conduct that ranges from
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December 200 17 through July of 2019 in addition to the alleged first-degree murder of holen bake
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Matthew Queen and Bailey despot are both charged with a conspiracy to murder and
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torture hsen bake as well as with the actual torture and kidnapping of holsen bake despot and queen are also jointly
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charged in with the unlawful manufacturing of assault weapons the majority of the additional charges
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pertain to Queen and include criminal threats kidnapping assault with a firearm and other unlawful and other
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unlawful weapons charges although biley despot has been reported missing since 2018 there is no known physical evidence
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that definitively confirms her possible death as a result of the filing of charges and
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arrest warrant will be issued for Bailey despots arrest Matthew Queen is already
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in custody and will be arraigned on new charges some of the filed charges against Queen are duplicative of several
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filed cases for which he is already in custody awaiting trial the filing of this case incorporates all of Queen's
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pending charges into the current filed case district attorney Cynthia Zimmer offered a reminder that an accused is
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presumed innocent until proven guilty in the court of law and commented about the
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dedicated work that led to the filing of charges and this extensive investigation
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saying quote this yearslong investigation was made possible by the combined efforts of the Bakersfield
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Police Department and the District Attorney's office our common goal is to never stop searching for answers on
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homicide crimes and our combined dedication to solving this case has never wavered end quote
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so this press release seems to indicate that not only do police have no clue what happened to Bailey right they seem
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to think it's possible that she is alive that she is on the run after being an accomplice to murder mic
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favorite people in the world he's back I'm back back good to be back cheers to everybody the other thing that we learn
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here Captain is what prosecutors are basically alleging well we learned a couple things don't don't do drugs don't
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sell illegal weapons don't be friends with somebody that sells illegal weapons don't be friends with somebody that
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sells illegal drugs the prosecutors are alleging that Matthew Queen procures and
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manufactures AR-15s used you know connections that he has and equipment at his disposal Bailey's involved in being
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involved with him and possibly advertising that this guy's making and selling weapons and
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Micah is the one that is believed to have actually sold these weapons or at least some of
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them now this is going to bring us to another person who ultimately is a third third defendant because
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remember the state is charging Matthew Queen and missing Bailey despot both with murder charges so those are two
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defendants right now we have a third defendant and his name is Matthew Vandy Castile who was also charged with
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kidnapping and consp conspiracy prosecutors alleg that Vandy Castile was part of a criminal Enterprise with
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Matthew Queen with Mike and with Bailey they were illegally manufacturing guns including AR-15s and
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as you said selling drugs now when this guy was charged with conspiracy in connection with Micah's murder well
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Matthew van Castile struck a deal with prosecutors he spoke to detectives while in Wasco State Prison serving time on
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unrelated charges here's what he had to say about what happened to Micah and what happened to Bailey this is all
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according to kg who we've cited multiple times who we've said have done gangbusters work on
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this very complicated case they found the following through court documents and it says that Micah holen bake was in
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way over his head he was dealing cocaine according to informants and he was also
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in debt to various dangerous groups like the Hell's Angels and air quotes the cartels he had made some seriously
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dangerous enemies then he allegedly stole a gun from Matthew Queen probably maybe even for self- protection
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and then this Vandy Castile told investigators that Micah had lifted a 44 revolver off of Matthew
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Queen and queen knew about it and was pissed one night toward the end of March 2018 Queen asked Vandy Castile if he
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could use his detached garage at his home this is an apartment at 3029 North Half Moon Drive in Bakersfield Matthew
00:31:04
Queen and Bailey remember she's his living girlfriend at this time kidnap Micah at gunpoint they take him to Vandy
00:31:13
castile's house where they had already prepared the garage for his arrival if you will right
00:31:22
the plan here is to get information or get whatever they want from Micah and they might have to torture him in the
00:31:28
process to get him to confess to the gun theft and tell them what they want to know so Bailey and Matthew Queen they
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zip tied Micah in this garage and they're questioning him in the garage for several hours Vandy Castile said he
00:31:46
didn't see the victim and said as far as he knew they were just going to torture
00:31:51
Micah to get him to talk he didn't know that they were going to kill him but but
00:31:57
he admitted that at one point Bailey came into the apartment where he was grabbed a pairing knife and then returns
00:32:05
to the garage then a second time she comes into the apartment and grabs a pair of scissors now here we are quoting
00:32:11
from kg says quote eventually despot this is Bailey re-entered Vandy castile's apartment and was visibly
00:32:20
shaken pale as a ghost and seemed flustered and responded to a back bedroom to change her clothing the
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documents say before despot and queen left queen told Vandy Castile that he had cleaned everything up and it was
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okay to go inside the garage Vandy Castile entered the garage and noticed a red grap fruit sized
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spot the karna regional crime lab later concluded the stain tested positive for blood that was a DNA match to Micah
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holsenbeck the day after the garage in incident Vandy Castile told police Matthew Queen returned to his residence
00:33:02
and said he needed help disposing of Something Matthew Queen had a large black plastic storage container with a
00:33:08
yellow lid in the rear of his SUV Vandy Castile stated he believed the storage container had a body inside but does not
00:33:17
know that for a fact he told Matthew Queen he didn't want to leave his home and so Matthew Queen leaves good idea
00:33:26
Vandy Cass Ste yeah yeah don't leave don't go help dispose anytime somebody says I need help disposing of something
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the answer is always no nope it's got to be always no I don't even want to know what you're disposing of well some
00:33:40
people just need to dispose of old like TV set or maybe some video games or some
00:33:46
comic books or baseball cards unless it's a large sum of cash I'm not helping you dispose of it you can dispose of it
00:33:54
right into my account yeah chaing so Queen returns to Vandy castile's residence several hours later this is
00:34:02
after he left after you know Vandy Castile won't help him dispose of something when he returns this is
00:34:08
several hours later Matthew Queen's SUV was muddy as if he had driven it Offroad and Vandy
00:34:15
Castile then finds out about Micah holsen bake missing two days later or at least what that's what he told the
00:34:23
police now so let's be clear here it seems certain that Vandy Castile knew more about what was going on in his
00:34:32
garage than what he's telling police right it seems like he was either lying about the extent of his involvement or
00:34:41
he had deliberately looked the other way while this torture and murder occurred he says at least he tells police that
00:34:50
hey I thought they were just going to torture Micah but what kind of freaking sentence is that that what kind of
00:34:57
statement is that to the police when you hear or have knowledge of a torture doesn't any psych reasonable logical
00:35:06
psycho half intelligent person psycho know that that could end in Murder Psycho Killer right you don't just go oh
00:35:15
they were just they were just going to torture him for a little bit no big deal no you always got to assume the
00:35:21
possibility of that ending in Murder what if Micah or whoever the victim is doesn't tell them what they need to know
00:35:27
or what they're looking to find out right or doesn't know the information there you go but police had no choice
00:35:34
but to cut a deal with this Vandy Castile guy and this is because they needed to secure his testimony so
00:35:41
without it they might never have been able to put together a case against Matthew Queen now what's weird though is
00:35:47
that they also charged Bailey according to Vandy Castile she was equally involved as Matthew Queen in
00:35:55
this murder but it's odd right it's kind of a weird thing charging a missing person for murder seems as though it
00:36:03
could be like some kind of tactic to get other jurisdictions to be on the lookout
00:36:08
for this Bailey person dead or alive uh or maybe they're right maybe they they are correct and she is indeed
00:36:17
On The Run running from future charges or potential charges of murder or possibly running from them right I mean
00:36:26
you just saw we don't know what her involvement is they they must have some kind of
00:36:32
evidence I don't think they would just take this individual's words uh they might have Fingerprints of hers they
00:36:39
might have her DNA if they know she's involved in this it's not that far out of the realm of possibility that she got
00:36:47
spooked herself and then took off and she knows one if I if you if I come forward you're going to arrest me but if
00:36:55
I come forward there's a possibility that somebody's going to hunt me down and torture me and murder me as well
00:37:02
well and the other thing that I got to believe too here Captain is you have a situation where you probably have all
00:37:07
the circumstantial evidence against Matthew Queen for at least the murder of Micah holsen bake mhm but if you're if
00:37:16
your number one weapon for putting this guy away is Vandy castile's testimony well according to what he's telling you
00:37:27
is that he not only witnessed Matthew Queen there in his detached garage but he also witnessed
00:37:35
Bailey there as well so if that's going to be your your number one Avenue for putting this guy away well you're going
00:37:42
to need to imply that on the other person that he's saying was present as well right because if we're going to
00:37:49
have a jury believe his story well then we need to believe his story and if we law enforcement believe his story then
00:37:56
we better be charging everyone that he's naming as guilty parties so of course a warrant was
00:38:03
issued for her arrest for Bailey's arrest but knowing what we know about Matthew Queen and what violent dangerous
00:38:09
piece of [ __ ] this guy is piece of [ __ ] it's really difficult for me to believe
00:38:14
that Bailey got to walk away I agree and remember we have this other guy Caleb sealer who's
00:38:22
saying when Matthew Queen was threatening me he had police documents he had the incident report that had a
00:38:31
name blacked out of the person that ratted on Matthew Queen and this name is blacked out and
00:38:39
Matthew Queen Is Telling Caleb as he's threatening him gun to the Head standing in the river like dude all I got to do
00:38:45
is pull this trigger and right where you drop is right where the body will be disposed of you will fall right into the
00:38:51
river and hopefully the current will take you away that's a pretty big that's a pretty big threat we have this
00:38:58
individual saying to police that Matthew Queen told me that the name could only be one of two people me or Bailey so
00:39:07
very difficult to believe that Bailey got the opportunity to walk away here or that Matthew would let her walk
00:39:16
away and I think that a lot of this stuff that we've already discussed is indications that he didn't let her walk
00:39:23
away well and like you said I mean there there suspicious of her but we have no evidence that she's still alive they
00:39:31
obviously don't have law enforcement doesn't have any evidence that she's dead but that's where I'd lean towards
00:39:39
and you're right they also don't seem to have evidence that she's alive either so
00:39:43
according to kg Bailey was freaked out by the murder of Micah which she either witnessed or actively participated in
00:39:52
and Matthew Queen was worried that maybe Bailey was going to crack and him out and then we have Vandy Castile who's
00:39:59
going to testify against Matthew Queen he's telling police that everyone including Matthew Queen believed that
00:40:07
Bailey was a snitch and that she cooperated with law enforcement in connection with the December 2017 case
00:40:15
where she and Matthew Queen were arrested on those Firearms charges so this fandy Castile guy stated that after
00:40:21
the murder Bailey started falling apart mentally and Matthew Queen probably thought she could not be trusted Vandy
00:40:28
Castile told police he believed Bailey was disposed of because she knew what had taken place in Vandy castile's
00:40:35
garage Matthew Queen denied any involvement in Bailey's disappearance and it's not just that he said I didn't
00:40:43
do it he told investigators that Bailey had cartel connections through her father and that they probably did
00:40:51
something to her and he suspected her of working with law enforcement he said perhaps turning on him but he's not
00:40:59
saying that she went into like some Witness Protection Program he's saying that she had some connections with the
00:41:05
cartel and once everybody figured out that she uh snitched on everybody that somebody murdered her because of that
00:41:13
exactly he's he's not giving any hope that she's alive in fact he's saying that his belief is that she's dead but
00:41:18
somebody else killed her no when you see these shows like Ozark you just don't think this stuff is real and this is a
00:41:26
real life case that could this could be a Netflix series and a very recent case too as well and so these charging
00:41:35
documents that we went through they contain some more information about what possibly happened to Micah CU remember
00:41:41
at this point we only have the arm recovered in the duffel bag so according to some informants his body was largely
00:41:50
dissolved in acid others reported that he was buried somewhere outside of Taft and remember how we said it seems likely
00:41:59
that Vandy Castile probably knew more or was more involved than what he's telling
00:42:05
police well according to kg detectives searched Vandy castile's Gmail account and found
00:42:13
it contained searches during the week of holsome bake's disappearance for lie chemical formula or lie for sale and how
00:42:22
long does it take to dissolve a human body specifically Vandy Castile or of course someone with access to his
00:42:30
computer searched how long does it take to dissolve a human body could you imagine being this type of individual
00:42:38
and then deciding that you need a Gmail account okay let's uh how about uh guns drugs boats and ho@ gmail.com well these
00:42:49
charging documents also seem to imply that Micah was not just killed over this little beef between him and Matthew
00:42:56
Queen about a stolen gun rather it seems possible that Matthew Queen was working
00:43:03
for someone else or at least acting on behalf of someone else when he took Micah out and this again per report says
00:43:11
several people told investigators that holsen bake was dealing a large amount of cocaine the court filings say and a
00:43:18
couple witnesses surmised that he was killed over drugs and that there was cartel type involvement I mean who knows
00:43:25
how how big this thing could get according to several witnesses Matthew Queen had quite the
00:43:31
reputation that's I mean I think it goes without saying at this point statement right I guess he was known as The
00:43:39
Boogeyman of Bakersfield booger everyone agreed that he was dangerous terrifying
00:43:44
and not to be messed with an ABC 23 reports that Witnesses told investigators that Micah was afraid of
00:43:53
Matthew Queen and that Matthew Queen may have kidnapped and threatened Micah in the past before he was kidnapped
00:44:00
tortured and then murdered so a separate incident so one witness says that in early 2008 she and Micah were hanging
00:44:08
out at her mom's house Matthew Queen shows up picks them up but instead of driving them to his house as I guess the
00:44:16
plan was he takes them to an orchard out in the sticks somewhere off of Renfro Road for a nice date she knew that
00:44:25
Matthew Queen had beef with Micah not only had Micah stolen a gun from him but he also owed Matthew Queen money Micah
00:44:34
was worried that Queen was going to kill him so as Queen's driving Micah jumps out of this moving vehicle and runs away
00:44:41
he calls his friend Caleb sealer remember him we've already talked about him and ask Caleb to come and pick him
00:44:47
up but ended up getting arrested by a passing police officer and it's I don't know exactly what the charges were Micah
00:44:55
told Caleb after this incident that Matthew Queen had kidnapped him at gunpoint once Micah was out of the car
00:45:03
Matthew Queen takes the female we still have the girl that was with Micah he takes her to that Orchard and he forces
00:45:11
her to her knees while pointing an AR15 at her and asking her how she would like
00:45:17
her child to grow up motherless he threatened to kill her if she didn't tell him whether Bailey was faithful to
00:45:24
him just Days Later police alleged that Bailey and and Matthew Queen murdered and dismembered Micah God this this
00:45:33
guy's a real dangerous [ __ ] bag well we know that the bakerfields 3 are all connected in some way but how does
00:45:43
James's murder the driveby shooting relate to the the other two right and that's difficult because we
00:45:51
have law enforcement that eventually do say that they believe that all three cases were
00:45:57
related and you know it it doesn't seem unlikely that Matthew queen or someone he knew
00:46:05
possibly took James out but charging documents State the detectives found no evidence linking James's murder to that
00:46:12
of Micah or to Bailey's disappearance so this is a newer development in this case
00:46:20
now they have said that the three of course traveled in the same circles and knew many of the same people people so
00:46:27
while it's still possible these charging documents clearly state that detectives found no
00:46:33
evidence linking those two cases remember captain that we talked about how the families
00:46:39
were an integral part of setting up that secret witness hotline remember because
00:46:45
we have possible Witnesses we have people that know these victims know the perpetrators that probably do not want
00:46:52
to talk to police because either they're worried about losing their own lives the
00:46:56
threat of violence or being tortured in a garage they may be committing crimes of their own even if they're just lower
00:47:04
level crimes they may not want to have much involvement with law enforcement because of the circles they run in well
00:47:10
one thing that these documents maintain is that once this secret witness hotline was set up in in this
00:47:21
case in the Bakers field 3 case actually Matthew Queen was phoning false tips to
00:47:27
the secret witness hotline right so he's basically throwing out their misinformation and false tips and trying
00:47:35
to lead police down different avenues that do not lead to him and they were able to put this
00:47:41
together based off of language that was used during the course of those tips and
00:47:44
the times that they interviewed him where he would use similar words similar statements and they were able to make
00:47:51
that connection and I mean it really seems It's a a little dumb but it's also quite diabolical when you think about it
00:47:59
it's it's this this career criminal this enforcer this person that's going to retaliate against you and he's going to
00:48:09
go to all these efforts to cover up his crimes look at look at the efforts that were made in the Micah holsen bake case
00:48:16
and that leads us back to back to Micah holsen bake on August 19th 2021 another piece of this man was found
00:48:26
a skull was found near an overflow parking lot at piles Boy camp off of Henry Mayo Drive in Valencia that's
00:48:35
disgusting the Santa Clara River it flows nearby the skull was determined to belong to Micah hmig some sick [ __ ] and
00:48:45
per news outlets we have the family again stating quote we want to bring Micah home but bringing him home one
00:48:54
piece at a time is just just unbearable and it could last for years that's his father's statement and his father goes
00:49:02
on to say because every time there's something else found it's a good thing but it's also a very very difficult
00:49:09
thing one of the things that makes this case a little more interesting to me this week is Matthew Queen the trial of
00:49:17
Matthew Queen is basically happening as we speak yes it is so this is very much a live and and active case still to this
00:49:26
day while we're covering it now in September of 2021 last year Matthew Vandy Castile who again he was already
00:49:34
in prison he entered a no contest plea on charges of being an accessory to murder false imprisonment and felony
00:49:43
possession of a firearm he also admitted to a robbery he had committed in Washington in return for a 4-year
00:49:51
sentence on all of those charges and remember remember he agreed to testify at the upcoming trial of Matthew Queen
00:50:00
the trial that we are has either started by the time this hits your earballs or it is in the process of starting so we
00:50:07
will be interested to hear what Matthew Vandy castile's testimony is against Matthew Queen now Caleb
00:50:18
sealer the guy that was threatened by Matthew Queen uh at gunpoint he's in his own trouble and this is
00:50:28
because he was engaged in all kinds of illegal activities with Matthew Queen in October of 2021 he pled no contest to
00:50:36
possession of a firearm by a felon and in June of 2021 th this is stemming from an
00:50:43
incident in June of 2021 when probation officers found a short barreled AR-15 style rifle two 9mm handgun frames two
00:50:54
silencers ammunition and high capacity magazine in Caleb's home and of course as a felon he's prohibited from having
00:51:02
any of these items I would like to commend the probation officers for checking in on this guy a lot of times
00:51:11
these guys they they go off the prison or they get probation and they might have to go check in with their
00:51:17
po but a lot of times the POS are not doing house checks and I don't know what exactly led the the probation officers
00:51:26
to Caleb in this incident but I like when I hear that POS are going to going to the uh the individuals out on
00:51:36
probation going to their homes and checking in on them in in their own setting now Matthew's as the captain
00:51:43
pointed out Matthew Queen's trial was originally scheduled to start February 28th
00:51:49
2022 um there has been a recent hearing that may have changed that may change change this date so we're kind of
00:51:56
waiting for this thing to fully kick off here uh and and just a buyer beware that
00:52:02
when you're listening to this again his trial may have already started by the time that this hitch your earballs now
00:52:09
Matthew Queen unfortunately you know the captain and I don't mind a little prison
00:52:15
justice but Matthew Queen to me seems like the type of guy that will thrive in prison and may even have some
00:52:21
connections already may already have some friends before before he even gets there well rumor has it he has very soft
00:52:28
hands as for the Bakers field 3 moms the news that one of the kids was alleged to
00:52:35
have killed another you know with the Bailey being involved in Micah's death yeah
00:52:43
thankfully it it did not tear the group apart right you know they they're a United group they're going through
00:52:50
something together none of them signed up for this they're still Vic none of these moms none of these parents none of
00:52:55
these families signed up for this they're all finding themselves in a situation that no one would sign up for
00:53:01
and I'm very glad to report that it seems that none of this information has torn them apart from one another they
00:53:08
remain strong they made a video together thanking everyone for their support this
00:53:13
case is finally coming to an end getting some closure here the charity they formed together it's called the
00:53:22
Bakersfield 3 charity they worked with the Kern County Board of Supervisors to provide
00:53:28
$177,000 towards new sonar equipment for the kar County Sheriff's Office and search and rescue unit right the three
00:53:36
moms told abc23 that their mission is to bring victims of violent crimes missing
00:53:44
persons and their families together to build hope and strengthen Kar County through Community engagement and Victim
00:53:51
Advocacy now sadly Captain you know we're often asked to give our opinion and give our conclusion and our final
00:53:59
thoughts on these cases and really what I see here long story short to me it's a
00:54:06
very sad situation that I'm sure is unfortunately repeated in other great cities throughout this great nation but
00:54:15
here I see all indications that point to three individuals that came from good backgrounds and had their whole lives
00:54:23
ahead of them and they were leading good lives at one point but they got mixed up
00:54:27
in drugs and became seriously addicted to opiates Andor meth meth addictions that led to their
00:54:37
associations with some Psychopathic hardcore criminals yeah and you feel bad for the parents because they they raised
00:54:45
these kids essentially then and at some point they are good people they're on the right path then they get hooked on
00:54:53
pain pills which leads them to become drug addicts and that sends them down a whole life of criminal activity and and
00:55:03
you just feel bad because they they didn't have a chance to get better and to do something productive with their
00:55:09
lives and live the lives that they were probably meant to live and just because we have Matthew Queen who is facing
00:55:17
trial we need to remind everybody that this thing ain't over right we still have Bailey who is missing
00:55:25
we also have James colad no one has been charged in his murder so the police still need your help still need
00:55:35
information from the public and look I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but it's easy for me to suspect that there's
00:55:42
probably other individuals that are involved in this overall situation but you're to and again a lot of those
00:55:50
individuals as you've seen as we go through name after name after name they're all involved in
00:55:57
lengthy months and years of criminal activity there's a lot of bad people in this story and the police still need
00:56:05
your help this community needs your help in getting these bad people off of the streets so if anybody has any
00:56:14
information this case is not over James kad's murder not solved nobody charged the secret witness hotline is still
00:56:23
available for you to submit information there is a reward in this case and I urge anybody with information Now's the
00:56:32
Time to come forward the threat has diminished the threat is a lot less than it used to be please call
00:56:40
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