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form of torture he was going to use during that those assaults and the murders was the having one victim
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witness the other victim. He never specifically said that, but I that's kind of my opinion. I believe that's a
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general consensus. I'll let Joshua and Dakota weigh in on their thoughts. This this is something that I think I find
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like super fascinating because the two times that he speaks about having a couples uh one male and one female in
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both situations the male is killed premature of the actual plan that he had in place. Um there's a couple that he
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took in Washington that he ended up hitting the male over the head with a with a shovel to quiet them down or to
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hopefully just take them out for a minute, but it ended up killing them. And then with Bill Courier as he was
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assaulting um his wife Lorraine, he came down st Bill Courier was trying to get loose and trying to fight back and
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Israel eventually came down and shot him with a silencer.