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[Music] the other strange thing regarding this Billy screw neck is there there's not
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100% conclusive evidence that this was a suicide I believe on his death certificate it does state that his death
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was caused by suicide however when he was receiving medical attention for the poisoning for poisoning himself let's
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say he denied poisoning himself he also did not tell the medical professionals what he had ingested so there's some
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thought out there that that this wasn't technically a suicide that it might be a
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poisoning okay that's not one for a second though because you said he takes this poisoning then he was in a coma but
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at some point it's implying that he was talking to medical staff he was talking to them before the coma he was he didn't
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ingest this stuff and then he's found like blacked out somewhere I'm falling you know he ingested this stuff and then
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he went about his day like he'd left his apartment and and went about his day and
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so a lot of people have called into question if in fact this is a suicide because I gotta believe that most of the
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time if somebody poisons himself they don't just go about their day they stay and wait for the poison to take effect
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yeah yeah so and he's saying that he wasn't poisoned he's saying he didn't poison himself I don't know that he
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directly said those words because I don't have you know I don't have anything other than third hand knowledge
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of the conversation but I would imagine you know if you show up in there and your insides are burning and you
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describe it like that I'm sure one of the first thing the the medical professionals are going to ask you is
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well what have you eaten today what have you drank today did you did you ingest something that you shouldn't have or 30
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package 30 packages of ketchup but you know what I mean and I so so in a way you can say that's a denial if if he did
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take that knowingly and then said though I just you know I had a coca-cola or something
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and so he went about his day mm-hmm that would he went about his day and I think
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he was at work and he was complaining about not feeling well and he he was taken to the hospital and it was there
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that he fell into this coma and he eventually died it was about two days after it's weird though because a couple
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thoughts on that one is did he ingest the stuff and did it hurt didn't did it not do what he thought it would do right
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away and then did he think wow this could get really bad and nobody's gonna come looking for me
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and that's gonna be depressing himself so I'll just go to work and if something bad happens then it happens there man I
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want to speculate too much I'm just saying that I mean this this is the case is just so fascinating well it's weird
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cuz yeah I mean it's like well if you went to work what's the point in that is that to make a scene but then you would
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think he would want to tell people that he ingested something but then it's like
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well if I tell them what I took maybe they solved the problem and I don't die right he was really set on dying the
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other issue though is what was in that note this is a note that is deemed by some to be a quote-unquote suicide note
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and because it must be a journal but but we don't know what that said mmm-hmm you
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know did it did it say I took this dried gas to kill myself that's a lot different than if it's just some kind of
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Randall random scribblings of something and it's generally it's generally believed by his family that he did
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commit suicide they may have more they obviously would have more insight insight to it than he would but we don't
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you know that's not if they're wrong about that then maybe they're wrong about the idea that we all believe he
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killed her I don't know what's it's a very fascinating part of the story well one thing that I've always firmly
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believed in and we didn't I didn't give my theory on on what I think happened well that that that case we covered it
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way different because it was just we we invited Renner down from Cleveland to to Columbus and my favorite part
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about his morn he doesn't he didn't know who the hell we were hmm and the fact that he would drive two and a half hours
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on a whim basically and he didn't know if he's showing up to some dudes house or what and and we even told him like
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it's a professional studio like we I mean we were super amateur at that point right and so our thought was like and
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let's not inviting them to the garage it's kind of smelly in here piss smell yeah I don't know about that but it's
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also a comfort level it's also a comfort right right okay so like when I when I went up to and I think the best way to
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describe this Aimee Mahalo Vic project I think what I can say what I can say is that I'm helping them with the project
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and it's it's been an ongoing thing that's been phone calls and things like that you're recording on the audio yeah
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but when I when I went up to Cleveland to help them with this project mm-hmm I'm having lunch with Renner and we're
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talking I said that real quick was he eating oh we we both had a sandwich of some kind I mean it was lunchtime so his
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regular lunch stuff I didn't pay attention to what he wanted I didn't pay attention to what the order so I figured
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him to be like a soup and salad guy it was not soup and salad cuz you're a soup and salad guy but I had a sandwich yeah
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but you are soup in salad yeah I do like soup and salad I've gone to lunch with you many times me order the soup and
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salad I like who does this I had sandwich and chips and I think he had some kind of sandwich and chips and no
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beer but that's because you were recording later well and I had to drive two and a half hour at some point
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good job detective so I said to him I said I said he goes hey