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[Music] [Music] murder is a broad and fascinating crime people murder for love and for hate some
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murder for money others for want of money some people murder in a cold insane rage and some people murder with
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the calculating skill of a butcher some people use guns or knives or their hands
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some people murder children exclusively or women and some people plant bombs and hi
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trffic locals and some mail them to specific targets New York City's mad bomber a
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case featured here in the garage was about an angry and yes very much a Madman who terrorized New York City for
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16 years in the 1940s and 1950s with explos Ives that he planted in public places bombs were left in foam
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booths storage lockers and restrooms in public buildings including the Grand Central Terminal Pennsylvania station
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Radio City Music Hall the subway and the New York Public Library for 16 years a period stretching back to 1940 the
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largest most formidable police force in the nation had failed to hustle up any worthy leads by 1956 the bombers
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handiwork showed a lethal new proficiency he declared his deadly intent in letters sent to newspaper
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editors each rambling raging letter was cryptically signed FP desperation drove the police to
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pursue a course they never before considered in the Department's 111e history NYPD was going to consult with
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James a brussel a psychiatrist with the expertise in the workings of the Criminal Mind if physical evidence could
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not lead the police to FP maybe emotional insights could since a physical description of the bomber was
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unattainable New York police believe maybe Dr brussle could use the evidence to draw a profile of the bomber's inner
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self an emotional portrait that would illuminate his background and disorder Brussel told them that the bomber was a
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textbook paranoid schizophrenic people suffering from this disorder he explained May believe other people are
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controlling them or plotting against them they are typically reclusive antisocial and consumed with hatred for
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their imagined enemies for all their derangement they're capable of acting quite normal until inevitably some
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aspect of their delusions enter into their conversation the paranoic is the world's champion Grudge holder Brussel
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would explain we all get mad at other people and organizations sometimes but with
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most of us the anger evaporates eventually the Mad bomber's anger does not once he gets the idea that somebody
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has wronged him or is out to hurt him the idea stays in his mind the bomber Brussel continued almost surely operated
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as a lone wolf paranoids quote have confidence only in themselves they are overwhelmingly
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egocentric they distrust everyone an accomplice would be a potential bungler or double Crosser ultimately Dr Brussel
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was correct and his assessment of the evidence which was simply the bombers actions words and
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intent this specifically helped NYPD identify locate and apprehend a domestic terrorist that eluded them for 16 years
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the mad bomber later identified as George mateski was angry and resentful about events surrounding a workplace
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injury he suffered years earlier brussell called his approach Reverse Psychology today we call it criminal
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profiling decades later in 1980 after four attacks the FBI created the uni bomb task
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force during the 80s they failed to identify the unibomber and then he went dormant the FED suspected the terrorists
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could be dead but then the attack started up again and in 199 93 things at the task force were ramping up and a new
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wave of Agents with differing array of expertise were brought in to work the case its wouldbe assigned task force
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agents all received a rather large memo titled major case number 75- unabomb for
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well over a decade the FBI and other law enforcement agencies around the US investigated the case they dubbed
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unabomb by the mid90s the perpetrator was the most Wanted serial killer in the United States and he was one that none
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of his victims had ever laid eyes on an individual so mysterious and Elusive that he was known only by the case code
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name the FBI had given him unibomber since his early bombings were directed at universities and
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Airlines unlike the one big crude blast of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVey and his cohorts the unib bombers attack
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were more like that of the Mad bombers but unfortunately more destructive and deadly these bombings were spaced apart
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this perpetrator could wait and act over time he was more specifically directed he was clever he was diabolical
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and his motive was wrapped in layers of mystery this is true crime garage and this is the case of the unibomber
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[Music] on Thursday May 25th 1978 Mary Gutierrez was walking through a parking lot this
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is in Chicago at the University of Illinois Chicago she is walking minding her own business when she sees a package
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on the ground being the nice helpful person that she is she picks it up obviously wondering what the package is
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doing just chilling there on the ground she's looking at it and she sees that the package is complete with shipping
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address return address and postage in the form of several stamps but it has not been technically mailed yet because
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the postage has not been stamped indicating that the postage parcel has been processed so not processed not
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mailed so what should she do well she takes this parcel to a mailbox to drop it in and send it along its way but the
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Box doesn't fit so seeing the return address she thought I'll notify the sender so she took the package back to
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her home the return address indicated that the package was sent from a professor Buckley Christ Jr at
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Northwestern University in Evanston she tracked down a phone number for the professor and she calls him they make
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arrangements for someone to come by and collect the package now a messenger takes the box from the good Samaritan's
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home to the professor at his office at the University Professor Christ receives the package sees his name and work
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address listed as the sender or the return address and the package was to be shipped to another professor this is at
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the renier Polytechnic School of Engineering in Troy New York now of course Professor Christ knows that he
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has not sent this package to anyone recently he does not recognize the package nor does he know the professor
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on the other end in New York where the box is to be sent yeah which would spike your curiosity yes so alarm bells are
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going off so Northwestern University Professor Buckley Chris Jr said that the package seemed strange he did not have
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any reason by the appearance of this package to believe that he was in any type of danger but again he said the
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package seems strange and he suspected maybe something illegal was going going on so he calls the university Public
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Safety Officer so unfortunately the officer made the determination to open the package and the Box exploded upon
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opening and injured the security officer no one had any idea of where this package came from or who was responsible
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for making the bomb and setting this trap so if you haven't already figured it out this is going to be the very
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first attack of many but law enforcement will not know this at this time they would not have any evidence that this is
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the first of many to come or even the last of several before what they do know is someone targeted someone else and
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attempted VIA mail bomb to injure and likely kill someone as well as those around them your very first objective is
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to identify the Target and maybe you can trace this thing back to the sender find
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out who would want to harm the the Target or kill the Target and that could be the person responsible yeah but here
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it's a little different cuz you actually have two Clues because you have a person
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that they're using as the sender and the victim that's exactly right Captain you
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have to wonder just exactly who is the actual Target here first guess it would be the person who was supposed to
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receive the package this being the professor at the Polytechnic School of Engineering in Troy New York right but
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one does not go to all of the trouble of making a bomb putting together the package and risk of getting caught not
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to mention risk of blowing oneself up building and packing this bomb without a super strong desire to quote hit your
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target so why not just mail the damn thing why even both with a return address unless you intend this to
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mislead the police or did the bomber hope that if he dropped it somewhere someone would return to the sender and
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then the sender is the actual Target right or was the bomber worried about being seen and possibly identified so
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they just left it out in the open at some random spot so that some good Samaritan would find it and mail it for
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them or like the Good Samaritan they tried to put it in a mailbox and it didn't fit then one has to Wonder Could
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the bomber not really care who the bomb injures or kills as long as it is someone near the University of Illinois
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Chicago and both addresses are simply meant to throw the cops off of the trail so ultimately what we have here is an
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ineffective attack but a very confusing one at least from an investigative standpoint well the materials used in
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this bomb and in this package they're they're not unique enough to give any clues to law enforcement this is going
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to take us to May 9th 1979 a graduate student John Harris at Northwestern University is injured when
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when he opened a box that looked like a present it had been left in a room used by graduate students so this seems like
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a bit of a repeat in a way doesn't it kind of an oddly placed bomb just sort of Left for someone anyone to snag it
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and open it up so possibly completely random Target or is it again we have the question of are these random targets or
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are they actually targeted victims because again we see Northwestern University as part of this
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whole attack right remember in the first attack the package was addressed to be sent from Northwestern University here
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it's actually left at Northwestern University to harm someone there yeah and it starts making you wonder if it's
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a disgruntle employee or maybe a disgruntle former student or current student and as you pointed out Captain
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there's no real way to identify the attacker based off of the bomb and how it's constructed itself we're assuming that
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the bomber putting these together was wearing gloves because there's no fingerprints left on any of the material
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yeah they're not able to pull anything as far as forensic evidence off of these first two bombs and in fact because the
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first one was going to be mailed you know it had the postage and all that already on it the investigative lead on
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that particular attack was actually the United States Postal Service of course they had local authorities working on
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both of these cases as well but they have the lead and it sounds to me that even though they're not able to identify
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the attacker or the bomb maker based off of the construction of these two bombs themselves it sounds to me like they
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were able to figure out that they were in fact connected to one another they were linked and I will get into that
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later on the suspicions of why maybe it is the actual construction of the bomb itself but the nickname that they were
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giving the bomber at the postal service was the junkyard bomber because most of these items that were used to construct
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both of these two bombs were just I mean they were crude unsophisticated bombs basically and these were items that
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somebody could find at your local junkyard yeah or items that they were also suspecting somebody actually if
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they were handy at all they might have some of these items just laying around their house and some of the pieces and
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and devices that were inside of these two bombs were handmade were were constructed themselves so yeah I think
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there was probably something similar between the first one and the second one where they go okay this we're dealing
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with the same individual on Thursday November 15th 1979 we have an attack on a large passenger commercial airplane
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this is some scary [ __ ] right right here American Airlines flight 444 flying from Chicago to Washington DC
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this is a 727 jet with 78 people on this plane 72 passengers and six crew members
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MH the plane left Chicago at 8:25 a.m. going to DC and as they approach the capital these 78 people they hear a
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muffled explosion on the airplane so we are still mid-flight up in the air when a small bomb explodes
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now it looks like this explosive device thank God did not do what it may have been intended to do right however the
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passenger cabin fills with smoke after this bomb detonates in the luggage compartment the pilot brought the plane
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down early at Dallas International Airport the several passengers suffered smoke inhalation now this is super
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fascinating though to me Captain a few hours after the attack a caller and I'm assuming here captain that it was all
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the same caller but a caller phoned four Chicago News organizations one of them being the Chicago Tribune and in the
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Tribune it was reported that the CER claimed to be a representative of an Iranian student group so this so-called
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group is claiming responsibility for this attack and threatening additional attacks the caller St that other bombs
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might be placed in shopping areas and on the CTA that's the Chicago's train line
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the subway system okay so this so-called Iranian student group they're making these
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threats because they're upset that America is making efforts to try to deport Iranian students which this makes
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a lot of sense because look it's no secret that relations between Iran and America sell have been good at times and
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they've been downright disgusting in fact all of the 70s was practically a nightmare between the two and at times
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most of the world vers the Middle East were were just bad there was Black September the 72 Olympics and just
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before this airplane bomb then there was the threat from this group Iran took over the US Embassy in tan and took us
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diplomats hostage and then the US froze Iran Brand's assets so it's already this
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is all very big news at the time so it's a big mess of what's going on between the relations between the two countries
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so this threat is easily believable however you heard that that amazing guy in today's trailer leading
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into the case this is about the unibomber so we know that that's the direction we're going here right that
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trailer by the way was a combo of some of my own writing mixed with the writings from the book incendiary by
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Michael canel and the anatomy of motive by John Douglas and Mark ALS Shaker two books featured on our show before and
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two must own books for hardcore True Crime garages now to be perfectly clear here Captain even though the explosive
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device did not do what it was supposed to do this was really a very dramatic event I mean imagine you hear an
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explosion the cabin fills with smoke the oxygen masks drop down the passengers are leaving their seats and running to
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the back of the plane well let me remind everybody fix your mask before you try to help your children with their mask
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the crew is forced to make an emergency landing they Evacuate the plane plane from the rear firefighters and fire
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trucks are there to greet the plane upon Landing they have to cut away a a small
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section of the plane and spray everything down with foam to put out the fire There's an actual fire on this
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plane right so I mean some truly heavy heavy stuff here now it was determined that the bomb was from a small package
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that was being mailed to the greater Washington area so the plane is transferring not only passengers but
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male as well on this trip everybody seem Tom hanon Cast Away it was a fairly small explosive device with a battery
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and an timer which is an instrument that measures altitude so this instrument could trigger the bomb as the plane was
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climbing in altitude okay so the the previous attacks are investigated at the local level and with USPS right however
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an airliner bombing is a federal crime so here we go bring in the feds and as Nick Cage would say this whole place is
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a crime scene well he said there's roughly about 80 passengers or so I don't know if that's full capacity but
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they believe that if this bomb would have worked correctly it would have killed every single passenger on that
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plane that's correct I mean we're talking about a huge death toll and just a a security nightmare too at the end of
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the day for the entire country well this really UPS the anti but I don't think right away do they know that these
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University of Northwestern bombs are connected to Flight 444 right that's going to take some
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investigating and the short of it for this attack is that someone mailed an altitude sensitive
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bomb to be on this airplane on a flight from Chicago to Washington DC and again 78 people who got lucky
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that the manufacturer of this bomb was unable to get it to be quote successful yeah
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and now we got the feds on the case and and hope hopefully we get Julius Pepperwood on the case as
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all right we're back cheers mates cheers to you Colonel cheers to you Captain happy birthday all right I'm 21 he's 21
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but been drinking on the show for 5 years and a and a half 21 and a half all right L capan we have another attack
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this one is on June 10th 1980 this is a targeted attack on United Airlines president Percy wood who was injured
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when he opened a package containing a bomb the bomb was disguised even inside of the shipping box the explosive device
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was encased in a book called The Ice brothers by Sloan Wilson so the book was hollowed out with the bomb inside you
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open up the B book and the bomb goes off the package was addressed and shipped to
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Percy wood at his home and that is in fact where he opened the box as said Percy was injured on his hands face and
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thighs when the package exploded but thankfully he was not killed during this attack so we have two bombs that are
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connected to universities and two bombs that are connected to Airlines this is the fourth bomb in our series now of
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course we know that the FBI they're already on the job but with this new attack they are going to bring in John
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Douglas who ultimately would be just one of many FBI profilers who work the unabomb case I think captain at one
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point in this investigation the FBI had about 150 agents actively working the case all at the same time this does not
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include all of the local law enforcement agencies working the case throughout the
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years as well now the agents working this attack they're going to need to clue Douglas in on their assessment of
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the situation that is as follows one the United Airlines has not received any threatening letters or phone calls and
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neither has Percy wood or his family so there was no indication beforehand that this attack was going to happen there
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was no request for money or any type of extortion going on with the airline or with the Wood family themselves I mean
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this guy's pretty well to do two the airline has not received any Ransom demand three there was no obvious motive
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in this case or now the other three cases as well and for the agents in charge do not believe that this is the
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first bomb that this attacker has mailed or placed okay Captain so no threats and
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no Ransom that's pretty self-explanatory stuff right so anything you want explore
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there captain or should we continue because I really want to get into numbers three and four no apparent
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motive and not the first attack or question mark first attack well it's interesting because when you don't have
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a ransom there's less evidence and like we said be before with these bombs in particular there's just no evidence Left
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Behind fingerprints or or DNA that we know of or any markings to to even suggest that he it's even the same
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bomber other than it seems like random items found around somebody's house or toolshed or junkyard and these are
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extremely handmade bombs and what I mean by that is even the mechanisms and devices the workings inside of the bomb
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itself a lot of those are handmade as well and so this is someone who is very meticulous to be able to construct all
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of these items construct these bombs and not leave any type of fingerprints or forensic evidence on the bomb itself
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plus you then have to package this baby up and ship it off and you've not left any forensic evidence on the packaging
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as well now I think this is a good opportunity to take a deep dive into a little analysis of violent crime study
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from the crime classification manual this will be good because it very likely ties into our case from last week as
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well the timers or the Tylenol murders where we asked the question was the motive a form of public terrorism or
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extortion or both or simply just a motive to kill so the classification here would be non-specific motive
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killing a non-specific motive killing pertains to a homicide that appears irrational and is committed for a reason
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known only to the offender it sub quently may be defined and categorized after more extensive investigation into
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the offender's background here are the defining characteristics of such a homicide first we have the victimology
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the victims of a non-specific homicide are random with no direct relationship between victim and offender victims can
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be male female adults or children and demonstrate a disparity of characteristics and
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lifestyle here as you pointed out Captain the interesting thing with our with our bomb attacks right is while the
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individuals who are opening these packages and being injured by the result of these bombs while they might be
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fairly random you've already put together that in the first two we're seeing a link to
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universities specifically Northwestern University and both of them and then the second the third and fourth attack I'm
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sorry airlines American Airlines and United Airlines so what what I think you're seeing here is less about the
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individual and maybe more about the overall organization themselves yeah there is some some kind of connection
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there and it's not just like we see in other cases where they're random victims or if you look at the the time MERS that
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you just put bottles on the shelf and whoever gets them gets them so it's not the
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so it's tough because we we're not seeing the direct link from this terrorist to the victims but there is a
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link there and so far there's no communication there's no one claiming responsibility there's no one asking for
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money or demands and again it makes it just extremely difficult now the frequent crime scene indicators of such
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a crime would be that it's usually a public place okay of course we've seen that in three of these four attacks so
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this poses a high risk to the offender there is nothing missing from the crime scene itself it is disorganized with no
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effort having been made to conceal the victims so obvious thing here you send a bomb place a bomb whoever it affects or
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kills that's the result you're not hiding the victims afterwards a firearm the weapon of choice is is typical with
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this type of offender this is what we're talking about here Captain is just like
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in the Tylenol murders totally random victims just like with a lot of these bombs totally random victims with the
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exception of Percy wood but this also would talk and cover about the like a public shooter a a school
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shooter or unfortunately what we've been seeing in the news too often lately people shooting at workplaces or out in
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public places the firearm as Douglas indicates would be the choice of weapon for this type of Fender is brought to
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the crimes now the crime often becomes a massacre because it is the offender's goal to kill as many people as possible
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I think that's what we saw with the possible successful attack on the American Airlines flight 444 yeah this
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is reflected by the use of weapons that the uh that offer optimal lethality by multiple weapons and by an
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abundance of ammunition now the crime scene staging is not present because it's not necessary there's no reason for
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the offender to Stage the crime scene as pointed out most of the time these are totally random victims
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and typically this type of crime is almost exclusively committed during daylight in public places which we had
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in the first three of these four attacks because the offender wants the highest death toll possible one the witnesses
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often are available to identify the offender as he is unconcerned with being identified this is interesting because
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in the first two attacks these bombs weren't really even mailed they were placed somewhere right
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somebody anyone could have spotted someone placing this bomb in the parking lot where the first bomb was found or in
00:37:07
the um university where the second bomb was found it's pretty easy to just drop off
00:37:14
a package as you're walking and not be seen oh yeah yeah I would agree with that I think that the thing that would
00:37:23
be alarming is that it look looks like a package with intent it looks like a package that is that has a purpose and
00:37:31
to see somebody randomly just place it on the ground in a parking lot I think would be something that would be
00:37:38
abnormal you'd think that the bomber would you know you have to worry about a couple things one bending down and
00:37:44
placing the the the bomb on the ground uh the bomb going off but really you know these are a big enough box that you
00:37:53
would then have eyewitnesses that just saw in individual carrying a box and it might not be the bomb but that could be
00:38:00
a lead to the bomber typically in this type of crime the offender really has no escape plan
00:38:09
because they are fine with either committing suicide or being shot at the scene by police now Douglas will go on
00:38:17
to say that the offender usually has a disheveled appearance is withdrawn demonstrates an isolated effect and
00:38:25
possibly exhibits erratic Behavior and the search warrant suggestions should one get that far in their investigation
00:38:32
are as follows search the home of the suspect for weapons receipts and Records remember we are handpicking these
00:38:43
particular items in the search warrant itself if it's not written in the warrant it's not seizable evidence so
00:38:51
he's suggesting you want to include weapons receipts and Records this is because you are looking for especially
00:38:59
in this case this week right bomb making materials and then last week's case poisoning bottles of pain reliever
00:39:07
you're looking for evidence obvious or a paper trail because in both cases we have someone manufacturing the death
00:39:15
instrument the bomb the poison bottles somewhere before the attack well the fact that all these bombs are a little
00:39:21
different it's not the same exact bomb and like they're telling us I mean we we don't have pictures of each of the inner
00:39:28
workings of all these bombs but they're telling us these items could be found around your house they could be found in
00:39:34
a junkyard so you would almost think that the individual would have to write out their idea of how to create this
00:39:41
bomb and so there'd be some kind of uh diagram or some blueprint for the bombs because they're all different and and if
00:39:49
they don't take it that serious they could blow themselves up right and often that's what happens in these cases and I
00:39:56
can't remember if we talked about this last week or not but in poisoning cases especially when you're trying to poison
00:40:01
the masses like with with timers and with bomb cases especially when you're trying to bomb the masses like we're
00:40:09
seeing here they often either poison themselves injure themselves or blow themselves up one could only hope to be
00:40:16
so lucky when you have a case like this that's going to span the course of years
00:40:22
so of course as you pointed out the the bombs are different well why are the bombs different because the bomb maker
00:40:29
is learning and you're exactly right Captain you would anticipate finding not only diagrams and notes of how one
00:40:38
constructed the last bomb but also thoughts and ideas on how to better construct the next bomb this is kind of
00:40:45
a work in progress for this bomb maker yeah I agree and you pointed out the home items found around the home or or
00:40:53
junkyard or what have you inside of these bombs we're talking about things like you're going to find like pipes
00:40:59
Springs wires a lot of wood was used in the construction of these bombs which I don't know if that's super typical in
00:41:07
these types of situations but you're also finding batteries a lot of these bombs were powered with with everyday
00:41:16
batteries duracel Energizer stuff that you would find at at most people's homes so of course you're hoping to find
00:41:22
physical evidence of such if you get a guy that you like as a suspect when you go to search his home or his place of
00:41:31
work because in the poisoning and in the bomb making especially with the bomb making this is timec consuming Activity
00:41:38
one would need a decent level of privacy to be constructing these bombs if not he
00:41:46
could be turned in Fair fairly quickly by anyone who is aware of what this guy is up to so what we do know is like what
00:41:53
you're saying this guy needs privacy he needs a Workshop he needs maybe he's a a
00:41:58
mechanic and he can do it at his job but then you go but he doesn't need a lot of
00:42:04
money because the materials don't cost a lot but he has to be somewhat intelligent or at least mechanically
00:42:12
inclin because we don't hear of anybody accidentally blowing themselves up and like you said we see um the
00:42:19
sophistication level of the bombs growing by by each turn now this is not the first attack obviously and it sounds
00:42:28
like they being law enforcement were able to link these attacks together mostly based off of what kind of bombs
00:42:36
they were seeing which again was mostly crude pretty unsophisticated handmade bombs but you're going to recognize that
00:42:44
the construction is somewhat similar and materials are somewhat similar even though as the captain pointed out the
00:42:50
bomb maker is getting better at constructing these bombs but each one in the series each one of these bombs in
00:42:59
the series they're getting a little more advanced than the last and the bomb maker is putting
00:43:05
FC FC on the bombs football club that's right the uh Washington football club yeah no the uh whoever was making these
00:43:16
bombs was going out of their way to stamp into a piece of metal inside the bomb or on the bomb itself the letters
00:43:26
FC well there's your sign right I mean so even if you even a lay person can look at four bombs and go well somebody
00:43:33
stamped FC in these that must mean something yeah yeah I even I could figure that out you got to get up pretty
00:43:41
early in the morning yeah we didn't even have to turn on the computer to figure that one
00:43:45
out now the interesting thing here though is nobody seems to know what FC stands for and of course you know that
00:43:54
they're linked because they've not public announced that hey the bomb maker is putting FC on these bombs so if there's
00:44:02
a copycat out there it's not in these four situations because the copycat wouldn't know to put FC on the bombs
00:44:09
right so the FBI was holding brainstorming sessions trying to dream up what FC could stand for did they have
00:44:17
any guesses of what they thought it was oh the the list was incredibly long I thought about including some of them
00:44:23
here but I don't know they're I'd just be interested to see some of them were really farfetch um like obviously they
00:44:31
they thought maybe it could be somebody's name so you know Francis you know uh cockburn or something well and
00:44:40
not only someone's initials but then like some kind of organization some kind of group right because usually one thing
00:44:48
that we didn't include in that that classification and that that profile of this type of crime but when you're going
00:44:55
to profile this type of offender and you would have the same thing with the Tylenol murders case even when these
00:45:02
individuals are acting alone often they want to present the idea that they are a
00:45:08
group a a gang an organization they want to faction they want to seem bigger larger more threatening than what they
00:45:16
actually are on October 8th 1981 a bomb wrapped in brown paper and tied with a string ised Ed in the
00:45:26
hallway of a building at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City the bomb is safely detonated without causing any
00:45:35
type of injury now this is interesting captain and I don't know the exact details here but I'm not sure if this
00:45:42
bomb was simply just lying on the floor tied together with a string or if the bomb was actually tied to something
00:45:49
because the description I found didn't State either way and what I mean by that is remember the the mad bomber case he
00:45:58
would put his pipe bombs inside of a wool sock because the sock you could tie it to something or hang it from
00:46:06
something because you want the bomb up off of the ground right you know you want to hang that thing so up to like
00:46:17
shoulder level eye level maybe even higher because if it's lying on the ground you are practically shielding
00:46:23
half of the bomb if that's if that thing is off of the ground you can pretty much spray shrap nail 360°
00:46:32
causing as much damage as possible and often it is the shrap nail that kills rather than the actual blast so this
00:46:40
being the fifth attack again like we said we thought he was getting more sophisticated but we have no injuries of
00:46:48
this one so I mean good for the public but bad that he's continuing to continue on his bombing campaign right on the the
00:46:57
bomb itself while it may have been more advanced than the previous bombs it may just have been detected and somebody was
00:47:04
smart enough to identify it for what it was now on May 5th 1982 a bomb was sent to the head of the
00:47:13
computer science department at Vanderbilt University this was not opened by the department head but by their assistant
00:47:21
the bomb was sent to Patrick C fiser but fiser was was on vacation in Puerto Rico
00:47:27
at the time and his secretary Janet Smith she ends up suffering several injuries to her hands and face after she
00:47:34
opened the package in his office on July 2nd of the same year 1982 a package bomb
00:47:42
is left in the breakroom of Corey Hall at the University of California Berkeley this package explodes and injures an
00:47:51
engineering Professor I think this bomb Captain was just a small simple bomb right this one actually looks like it
00:47:58
was a bit of a step back as far as being you know more advanced than the others this one was a small simple bomb that
00:48:06
was made out of a like a little cigar box well then we have nothing so then we wonder does this guy like to smoke the
00:48:14
cigar well then we have nothing almost for almost 3 years then in May of 1985 another bomb was placed again in Cory
00:48:25
Hall the University of California Berkeley this injures another engineering student and I'm guessing
00:48:31
that there's again items that that look familiar or the style which these bombs are made look familiar but I'm also
00:48:40
guessing that all these bombs were finding the tag FC on yes the bomb maker is stamping little pieces of metal with
00:48:49
FC and placing them in the bombs it's the bomb maker essentially putting his signature his calling card
00:48:56
on an indestructible piece a piece that he knows is going to survive the blast fir crotch in or on the bomb he wants
00:49:05
the FBI and everyone else for that fact to know look this is me I am still here I am not dead I am not in prison and I
00:49:14
am not going away first we're seeing attacks on universities and then to Airlines and now we're back to attacks
00:49:23
on universities and in a row at California Berkeley yes so whoever's doing this is comfortable in that
00:49:32
setting getting close and just placing these bombs in that area well again this is kind of um a tell here because we
00:49:41
have we do have like we said before multiple people that they're sending to in the University of Northwestern which
00:49:49
is in Illinois and now we're all the way in California so does this um terrorist
00:50:00
does the bomber have connections to Chicago and to Berkeley right and the thing here too is with these last two
00:50:10
bombs they're placed or believed to have been placed in this Corey Hall which I I'm not familiar with the
00:50:17
campus itself but I'm assuming that this is a relatively open accessible building I mean I can't believe that
00:50:26
it's a student or faculty member that is placing these bombs there right this is
00:50:32
going to take us to June 13th 1985 and what I think we're seeing here Captain is the start of maybe a busy year for
00:50:41
our attacker so this is when a suspicious package was sent to Boeing fabrication to their fabrication
00:50:51
division in Washington this sounds to me like this one was spotted and detected and identified for what it was a bomb
00:51:01
because we have no death we have no injuries in this attack attempt and the bomb is safely
00:51:09
detonated so we have a second occasion where someone is able to identify the bomb as an as a bomb before it triggers
00:51:19
the mechanism to explode yeah see I'm just not that bright I mean and maybe it's because we get so many more
00:51:26
packages now than they got back in the day but it's like I get boxes to my house all the time and I I just open
00:51:35
them up I don't think twice about it yeah that's one thing that I considered when researching this case you know I
00:51:42
know my neighborhood and and most people's neighborhoods the Amazon little trucks
00:51:49
and vans are are frequent flyers in those areas and constantly just placing boxes on doorsteps and and front porches
00:52:00
heck we are subscribers and we advertise things like hellofresh and butcher box and first Leaf wine club and things like
00:52:09
that on this show all showing up in boxes right at people's homes and every time I cut open that box from first Leaf
00:52:16
I go thank God it's wine and not a bomb yeah well I mean I guess the I guess the
00:52:20
difference is that you do see the the shipping labels and you you see who it's coming from and in a couple of these
00:52:28
attacks the guy didn't even bother to mail it yeah of course this was mailed here for the Boeing attack the attempt
00:52:34
on Boe but in some of these attacks they're just leaving these random packages where curiosity kills the cat
00:52:42
thankfully no one's been killed but there's been people been injured by opening or handling a random package
00:52:50
that they find somewhere it's like too cheap for uh stamps on November 15th 1985 a University of Michigan psychology
00:52:59
professor and his assistant were injured when they opened a package containing a
00:53:05
three ring binder that had a bomb inside now this was Professor James mconnell and research assistant Nicholas sunno
00:53:16
they were both severely injured after sunno open the mail bomb addressed to McConnell so again un University again a
00:53:26
package addressed to a specific Professor well again now we have to go even further does this individual have
00:53:34
connections uh to Northwestern to the University of Michigan to California or Berkeley in California the bomber not
00:53:46
only indicates that he is specifically targeting Professor McConnell by addressing this package to the professor
00:53:54
but also the bomber included a letter with this package asking the professor to review a student's Master thesis so
00:54:03
taking it anep extra step further Captain addressing it to your target but also not wanting this item to just kind
00:54:11
of sit there randomly this is a letter to encourage the professor to open up the binder
00:54:19
because the bomb is disguised as a thesis in a three- ring binder simple bomb the three- ring binder is a little
00:54:26
larger than some of the previous packages that means it can be a little larger of a bomb a little more
00:54:32
destructive but again a simple action to trigger the bomb take the binder out of
00:54:36
the package open the binder binder goes boom thankfully no one is killed in this
00:54:42
attack on December 12th 1985 the Sacramento B newspaper ran the following news article the title is
00:54:52
Mystery blast kills Capital merch Merchant and the article reads A Sacramento businessman was killed
00:55:00
yesterday when a bomb that had been left behind his store blew up in his face the
00:55:05
blast shortly after noon mortally wounded Hugh Campbell scrutin age 38 owner of rentech computer rentals in
00:55:15
Sentry Plaza this located on hoe Avenue in Sacramento this is a little bit of a left turn I mean we have Airlines we
00:55:25
have universities now we have a technology store the device exploded just moments after scrutin left his
00:55:34
store through the back door and headed for the parking lot according to reports the blast blew scrutin about 10 ft the
00:55:42
first person to arrive at the scene heard the victim cry out oh my God help me and scrutin was pronounced dead at
00:55:51
12:34 p.m. at the University Medical Center he reportedly took the full force of the blast in the
00:55:59
chest there were no known witnesses to this crime the blast shook the entire shopping center and shrapnel was
00:56:07
scattered up to 150 yard from the point of the explosion shrapnel penetrated the
00:56:14
store's rear wall but no one else was hurt no motive for the bombing has been established and there are no known
00:56:25
suspects they said law enforcement said that it's possible that scrutin was not the intended victim this according to
00:56:32
the head of the sheriff's Homicide Bureau in Sacramento investigators noted that the rear of the shopping center has
00:56:41
a series of back doors and identifying which door is for which store would not be easy with the doors that close they
00:56:49
said how do you know which door belongs to which business no suspicious activity
00:56:55
was reported by the merchants at the shopping center and interviews with employees did not turn up any
00:57:01
significant leads in this case obviously looking at these bombs afterwards that's
00:57:06
we're going to lose some evidence with inside the bombs because they actually exploded they actually worked but again
00:57:13
are we seeing the signature FC in this bomb as well or are they not telling the public at this point that this one's
00:57:21
connected to the other ones well that's a good question because they're not really cluing us us being the public in
00:57:28
on everything that they seem to know about the bombs the making of the bombs or who is making and sending and leaving
00:57:36
these packages now on February 20th 1987 another bomb was left in the parking lot
00:57:43
of a Salt Lake City computer store so again Salt Lake City again a computer store or tech tech type
00:57:52
store the bomb this time severely injures the business owner's son but we have something very different
00:58:01
here Captain one of the employees at that store working at the store that day saw a man leave the
00:58:09
package and from that witness account we can create a composite sketch of the suspect all right so now we're we're
00:58:16
going to at least make some Headway here this led to a widely distributed sketch
00:58:22
of the suspect wearing a hooded sweat shirt an aviator sunglasses and the suspect is sporting a
00:58:29
mustache now do you think captain that this is probably one of if not the most well-known suspect composite sketch of
00:58:40
all time yeah yeah or at least In Our Lifetime that's for sure yeah I couldn't think what of one on the top of my head
00:58:48
that that would be even closely comparable so they were Distributing a few few different versions of this uh
00:58:57
hold on DB Cooper is pretty popular that's true as far as a uh composite sketch they were Distributing a few
00:59:06
different versions of this uh composite sketch for the public to see again it was very widely distributed at the time
00:59:13
and would be for years to come but one of the early ones I wanted to take it sometime here and read what is on this
00:59:21
actual wanted poster they were offering a $50,000 reward and stated that the suspect was wanted by the postal
00:59:27
inspection service for mailing or placing an explosive device and it goes on to say that on February 20th 1987 a
00:59:36
package exploded at a computer business in Salt Lake City Utah bombs have been either received in the mail or placed in
00:59:45
the following states so they have somehow connected all of these according to this wanted poster at the time bombs
00:59:54
have either been received in the mail or placed in the following states Utah Pennsylvania Illinois California
01:00:01
Michigan and Washington my my gut is telling me that there's there's the signature FC on all of them again I
01:00:09
believe you on that 100% Captain I think this guy he wants the investigators to know that they're all connected he wants
01:00:18
credit for the attacks and he wants them he wants the threat of of them knowing I'm not going away I'm going to keep
01:00:28
doing this it also goes on to say that the incident has been linked to 11 other incidents which have occurred across the
01:00:36
United States since 1978 injuring 21 people and killing one person the description is given of the
01:00:45
suspect and is as follows we're looking for a white male 25 to 30 years old 5' 10 in tall to 6 foot tall approximately
01:00:56
165 lbs slender build blond reddish hair with a light mustache and Rudy complexion which I was not familiar with
01:01:06
what that means but I always what does that mean I always thought people were saying Ruby complexion because I looked
01:01:12
up Rudy complexion and it means like reddish color uh Rosy color yeah I thought that was like
01:01:18
Ruby and goes on to say that the suspect was wearing blue denim jeans a gray hook
01:01:24
sweatshirt and Teardrop sunglasses smoked with smoked lenses not a lot to go off of there no obviously this person
01:01:34
thought that there was a chance that they would be seen placing this bomb in that parking lot and even though it's
01:01:40
behind the business they were organized enough in their attack that they chose to disguise themsel or at the very least
01:01:48
conceal their appearance in some manner with the sunglasses and the hooded sweatshirt but now that we got this
01:01:54
composite sketch they're going to be coming out and they they're going to tell you they're all connected and all
01:01:59
by the way this is a guy that we believe is the uni bomber right so we have notice the two major shifts in this case
01:02:07
and investigation one the attacks have now become lethal the bomb maker has retooled and constructed a better
01:02:16
explosive device and two now we have something on this guy we have a witness description so where before we simply
01:02:24
just had the FC markings that's the bombers including with the bombs now we at least have some idea of what this guy
01:02:32
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