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perplexing missing person's case a young man out with friends for a night out on
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the town the group goes to a bar they're having a great time but as it gets later and later into the night
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the Friends start to head home the young man stays at the bar alone and this is where our Mystery
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Begins every detail after this moment is in question we know some of his movements he interacts with a few people
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that he doesn't know but the young man's motives and the intentions of others around him are in
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question where did he go how did he get there where is Kyle Flashman this is true crib garage
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[Music] [Music] today we go to Charlotte North Carolina Charlotte is the most popular
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City in the great state of North Carolina and the county seat of mecklinburg County the Charlotte
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mecklinburg Police Department is the point on this investigation and they are encouraging anyone with information to
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use the Crim Stoppers tip line to submit that information at 74334 1600 the population was 87400
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people at the 2020 census making Charlotte the 15th most populous city in the United States the seventh most
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populous city in the South and the Charlotte metropolitan area has an estimated population of almost 3 million
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people as of last year all of that is to say that this is a really big city Charlotte is an exciting city as well
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there is more than plenty to do there parts of Charlotte are known for a thriving nightlife we will be honing in
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on the City Center uptown area Uptown is known for the Nascar Hall of Fame today's case is a missing person's case
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it's been over 16 years gone by since The Disappearance of 24-year-old Kyle Flashman Kyle went missing in the small
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hours of Friday morning November 9th he was last seen at the Buckhead Saloon in uptown Charlotte leaving on camera at
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approximately 2:20 a.m. this was back in 2007 to this day at the time of this recording Kyle has not been in contact
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with any family or friends since he left his debit card and coat at the bar it is
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believed that he was in possession of little to no cash at all and the report is that Kyle did not have any other
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credit cards a missing person report was filed Friday the 9th at 10 p.m. with the
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police and we have a description here for you of Kyle height 6' tall he was about 180 lb that's a tall drink of
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water Caucasian with green eyes and brown hair and it looks like he most often wore his hair short he was last
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seen wearing a black T-shirt jeans and black dress shoes his hair was gelled and probably looked a little darker than
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his natural color so this is the description provided that I have seen the most and I do want to point out here
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that photos of Kyle at the Buckhead Saloon where he was last seen or known to have been are pretty readily
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available on the internet and the shirt that he is wearing in those photos is not black so I don't know why this
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description is the one that remains and is the most used description of him it appears to be a green shirt to me in
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fact the photos while quite blurry and not great if that is Kyle in those photos to the best that I can tell it is
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he appears to be standing by himself right up to the bar with a bottle of beer sitting on the bar in front of him
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and he occasionally is checking his what looks to be a flip phone there is a $50,000 reward for information regarding
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the whereabouts of Kyle or what happened to him on the night of his disappearance so some quick information
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before we dive into the details here I want to lay out a few things before we get into the muck and the mire of that
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night because there's a lot of movement that night all of it I see as questionable after that 2:20 a.m. time
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marker and there has been a lot of speculation regarding that movement or perceived movements of Kyle's that night
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so to lay the foundation here Captain after taking in a comedy show 24-year-old Kyle fleschman and some
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friends head out for drinks at the Buckhead Saloon at fifth in college streets now this bar has changed names
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several times since then Kyle worked for a health care recruiting agency he was smart very outgoing his parents dick and
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Barbara moved Kyle and his two siblings to Charlotte in the year 2000 for Dick's
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job with Fidelity Investments Kyle graduated from Charlotte Catholic High School and later
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Elon University after college he moved into a South Charlotte condo his father says
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Kyle was a social person who liked to go out and have fun he didn't have a girlfriend at the time but he had a lot
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of friends so Kyle goes out with some friends to see a comedy show and who does he go to see Dane Cook probably one
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of the most popular comedians around that time one key bit of information and a key detail to this case is the group
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chose to take a cab that night and Kyle parked his vehicle at his friend's house
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so they all meet up at the friend's house they all hop in a cab together and they go off to the Dane Cook comedy show
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in uptown Charlotte and the persons that Kyle is traveling with this is his best
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friend Dan or Daniel we also have Dan's wife Christina we have good friend of Dan and Kyle's
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Dom and Dom's girlfriend so we got a five pack of people going out that night for a comedy show from my understanding
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here Captain there was a lot of Celebration to be had that night so these are very close individuals Kyle
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and Dan are very tight it's Dan's wife and they're also tight with dom I believe at one time he was a roommate
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with Dan and Kyle the celebration it was somebody's birthday somebody else had got a new job so within that group of
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five there was a lot of excitement to be had that night they were all looking forward to a very good night out after
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the show they choose to walk to a nearby bar so this is a place that none of them
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were were regulars at in fact one person in the group says that it was their first time ever going there and they
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weren't even sure if Kyle had ever been to this bar before this is really just hey this is in close proximity to where
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we already are this hustling bustling area of excitement of Charlotte let's go to the comedy show and where should we
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go next let's we don't want to end the night now oh here's this place right over here so really just going to a
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place that's nearby this is the buck head heck yeah can't stop won't stop at the
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Buckhead Saloon of course they're having drinks because of the celebration with the birthday and the changing of careers
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the promotion it sounds to me like they're they are doing shots this isn't just you know casually sipping on a beer
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and looking at each other and chatting this is a night of excitement we're doing shots we're having a great time
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well this case is fascinating to me because we do have a lot of surveillance footage and one of the questions becomes
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how intoxicated was Kyle during this evening yes that's a great question now what we do know is that we have several
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people that knew him well on record saying that yes he was very likely drunk that night but what we're going to see
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Captain is friends are going to start to leave and Kyle's going to choose to stay
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and the friends that leave would go on to say he didn't seem to be extremely intoxxicated when we left which makes
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the mystery all that more confusing for his friends yeah most definitely so he's out drinking they've
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been drinking for most of the night by this time but where we're going to pick up here is his group of friends they
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begin heading home so this is all going to start around midnight Kyle chose to stay and he was going to continue on
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that night without them well I know nobody wants to be a party pooper but don't leave your friends behind
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especially in an area that they don't know they're not familiar with and it's not close to their their home now we're
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getting close to closing time for Buckhead Saloon at some point Kyle is going to get up and leave the bar now
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like the captain pointed out we have some surveillance footage what we don't have is audio right we don't have him
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telling anybody or if he did say why he was leaving that information is not known has not made its way to the public
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because one thing that gets very confusing here is it's a cold November night he gets up and leaves and he
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leaves his debit card or credit card with the bartender and he leaves his jacket there as well so now we're in the
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small hours of Friday November 9th 2007 approximately 12:15 12:30 a.m. this is when good friend Dan closes out his b
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tab he tells Kyle that he and his wife are going home Kyle says that he's staying and that he would call a cab
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later to get over to Dan's to retrieve his vehicle now at about 1 a.m. to 2:15 a.m. and I'm I apologize for not being
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able to narrow that down better for you but 1 a.m. to about 2:15 a.m. Kyle chats
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and he's seen dancing with a young lady at the bar we do know from an interview with Kyle's uncle stepen
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that he says that there may have been some words exchanged or it's his understanding captain that maybe one of
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the guys there with this young lady didn't didn't really appreciate Kyle dancing with her and we don't have great
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details about this confrontation which kind of bothers me because we have surveillance footage so we should have
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some kind of knowledge about what happened and we we do know or what we've been told is it didn't get physical cool
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but I don't think the confrontation was just between this girl's boyfriend or or
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whoever he was in relationship to her but it was also some of his friends so it's you know like a group of guys
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coming up to a guy going hey probably saying why are you dancing with my girlfriend you know or cuz you weren't
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ladies like to dance and sometimes the boyfriend don't like to dance right but no you're right Captain the report is
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that there were four people in this group group and I don't have a breakdown of number of males or females but the
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vibe I was getting from the report was that she might have been the only the only lady in the group that the the rest
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of the group might have been a a boyfriend husband or somebody sweet on her and one or two other guys but to me
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this seems like a typical night out at a bar and now many bars there's little confrontations but we don't have any
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physical altercation so could be nothing it could be a nothing Burger but the problem is Kyle went missing that night
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and hasn't been seen again so it's something that you have to put on the radar yes you're right you cannot
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dismiss this because it happens in such short proximity to when we last see Kyle
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and know that he's perfectly fine so here's where we start to get a little detailed 2:17 a.m. is the report where
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the female that he was dancing with or seen dancing with leaves the Buckhead Saloon at 2:19 so 2 minutes after she
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leaves Kyle's device places a call to his sister so this is a a cell phone and this call goes unanswered at
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2:19 then shortly after placing this call so that's key too I think here he's making that call all reports say he's
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still in the bar at the when he makes that call why do I think that's key because he's going to make a whole bunch
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of other phone calls but this one is the only one that he's making while he's still in the bar and the captain had a
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great thing that he was telling me off microphone about this call that I found intriguing normally when we have a
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missing person case we have maybe some surveillance footage and sometimes we have a call log and you have to kind of
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piece these together but what's fascinating with Kyle's case is this call that he makes to his sister well we
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have it not only in a call log but we have it on surveillance footage as well so we can actually see his actions and
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and him making the call in that early I think he said it was like 2 29 a okay yeah so what's what's different about
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this compared to other missing persons cases where we have a phone attempting to connect with with with other
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people one problem we run into in those cases is not knowing who's making that action here as the captain's pointing
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out we have him on camera making that call we know that Kyle was the one that made this call the call goes unanswered
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and then Kyle is seen on camera leaving the Buckhead Saloon and now we know that
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he does leave his jacket and his bank card behind so 207 I imagine this is one of those busy
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bars you get youngsters or people have too much to drink they forget to pay their tab so what do you do you collect
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a credit card or a bank card when somebody sits down and orders their first round I'm sure there's a listener
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or two out there that have left a bank card or a credit card behind I'm a little shocked though given the the very
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chilly night that they were experiencing that something didn't tip him off as soon as
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he stepped out into the cold of the night that he had left his jacket behind because that that surveillance footage
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to me he appears to be wearing a t-shirt yeah this brings up a lot of questions for me I don't think I've ever left a
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card a debit card or a credit card behind unless I was pretty intoxicated but we're not sitting around wondering
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if he was intoxicated or not we know that he was to what level seems to be the debate but the general consensus is
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yes he's yeah he's Intoxicated by that point he's already told his friend he's taking a cab back to retrieve his car at
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some point but hold on a second I want to stay with this credit card so him leaving the credit card to me not that
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big of a deal cuz he was he was drinking too much and and maybe he just totally forgot the jacket seems a little more
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important like you said he goes out in the cold weather and he's like well I he should have at that point went I I left
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my Jack behind so that makes you question is he concerned about getting out of there quickly after this
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altercation or some people think that he was trying to catch up to one of the girls that left the bar which would make
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sense because we know that the girl did leave the bar right uh young lady we should say and then we do know that a
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very short time after Kyle so as soon as he walks out there's a brief exchange of
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words with several guys who were standing outside with the female that he had danced with earlier that night the
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report is that there was some shouting that was going on outside but but again it never gets to any level of physical
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altercation these are just words at this point well and that makes me wonder too
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because let's say I'm a little intoxicated I was just dancing with this girl on the Dance Floor some jackasses
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come up to me and tell me who I can and can't dance with but there's a bunch of them so maybe I just shut up now I'm at
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the bar and I'm drinking call my sister she doesn't answer the phone pH but then
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I start thinking to myself why did I shut up why did I shut up why didn't I just give him a piece of the captain's
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mind so then I decided to go outside to to ra Raz it up a little bit you know nobody's going to assass me my friend so
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then I go outside couple shouts come back and forth and then it gets broken up again and you can dance if you want
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to Captain but the thing here is I think all of us are are I shouldn't say all of
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us but I bet you a good percentage of us have found ourselves in a situation I know I have I got a I got a very uh face
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that that punchable face a punchable face as they say yeah I found myself in a situation more than once where a group
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of guys has they've decided that they're going they want they're looking for a fight and there's
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no nothing that I can say to deter that from happening right I could I could be defiant and say you guys you guys suck
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you're losers we're going to fight or I could go I'm sorry my bad you guys are awesome I I don't want anything to do
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with you can I buy you a drink and they still want to fight right so we don't know all we know is that there was some
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shouting going on we don't know how much Kyle was involved in a back and forth or
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if it was simply oh hey there's that that jerk again oh he's outside again this part of the timeline is very
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weird and strange to me right because I I I look at the call 219 to his sister fast forward to
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today I know that as of a couple years ago his sister was living in Charlotte in in this uptown area okay what I don't
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know is was she living there at that time is there a reason why he's calling his sister at
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29 does he feel threatened does he feel like he's in trouble and needs to get somewhere where somebody knows him soon
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to a safe place or does he just want somebody to be aware that hey I got in this altercation
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just in case something happens the other thing too and I know that we're we're spinning our tires here already Captain
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but I'm telling you I'll speculate if I want to speculate you can dance if you want to yeah but the thing is I I also
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have to wonder like you know when when when some people start a little beef with you and then then it breaks up and
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you just you know you you go your your separate ways you sit back down at the bar they're back in a corner somewhere
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but you still feel them like looking at you looking at you isn't it kind of like
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naturally human behavior to pick up your phone and now maybe I'll pretend I'm talking to somebody or looking at
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something on my phone so it looks like I'm not I don't I want them to think I don't know that they're looking at me
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yeah or POS possible he just wants to vent to somebody true hey this this happened and nobody was here I got to
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tell somebody or could you come and get me right so anyway that lot of questions
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though but but see that's what I'm saying is that I feel like the actions to me don't add up right if if if I'm
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calling for help or want to get in touch with somebody because I feel threatened
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at 219 I'm probably not leaving the bar considering that they've just left the bar and now I bump into them if you go
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outside because you're like I better get out of here fight or flight I better fly
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I'm going to get out of here oh I see them on the street if you're attempting to flee then
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you want to go back into the bar at this this point and you've left your jacket and your bank card so many things in
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this case don't make sense [Music] all right we are back chears mates dance if you want to tall cans in the
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air is it safe to dance you can do this safety dance at 2:20 a.m. Kyle is seen on
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camera walking on North College Street at 2:22 to 245 a.m. approximately there's reports that Kyle goes into a
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business called fuel Pizza okay I want to be clear here there is some debate if this actually happened it
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seems like most people believe that this did happen an employee there says that he saw Kyle come in and remembers Kyle
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ordering two slices of pizza we get a little bit of a problem here because we know that he doesn't have a his debit
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card or credit card with him he's left that at the bar and what we are told from his parents when they do a a check
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on their son phone records Financial records They don't see him having and possessing any other credit card or
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debit card so this is his only card for paying for things and his friends will tell us they don't remember Kyle being
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the type of person to carry cash right so this is where we say he either had little to no cash on him at all because
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he may not have had any cash but if he purchased the pizza he must have had some cash on him that night to do so
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yeah pizza shops are not in the business to just go hey drunk guy you don't have
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any money here's a slice of pizza true but I would say that at closing time that we might be throwing these away
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anyway this guy comes stumbling in he's starving oh here take this and we'll see
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you later I think I saw one report where they thought maybe he had roughly six bucks on him yeah so the reports that
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I've seen state that that he had $6 other Reports say he may have had $9 on him I don't know how they're
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getting to that very exact amount but I think part of that they're basing off of what what it said that he
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purchased at the pizza shop and what it would have cost right now his father Kyle's father believes as do many other
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people that this Kyle going into fuel Pizza is reality and he says based off of witness statements and off of what
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the employee says that Kyle ordered he's like yeah that's exactly the kind of pizza that Kyle would order all the time
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that's another thing that's so fascinating with this missing person case is we don't have just one piece of
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evidence we have other pieces of evidence that back up those pieces of evidence like we have we roughly know
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the direction Kyle went when he left the bar then that's confirmed by other surveillance footage and so then you go
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well he's headed in the direction to the pizza shop he goes into the pizza shop we have people at the pizza shop
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claiming well we think that this missing person Kyle was in there that night and
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by the way this is what he ordered and then the family goes yep that that was him he was a everything on my pizza
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supreme pizza guy yeah and so the thing here is what I like to call this is this
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is very much to me like a collage of potential evidence right and movements of this young man just before he
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disappears and we all know how collages work you you you cut and paste and you pull things from from all different
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sorts and you put them together all in one location and you step back and you look at it and sometimes it makes
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perfect sense and other times it makes no sense at all so with some of this stuff it seems to be lining up there are
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people that are connected with this fuel Pizza that say we never saw Kyle that night one key thing here though is the
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employee that says to have seen Kyle that night that Kyle ordered two pieces of pizza and then he must have G on to
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the restroom area because this employee says I got busy working and I lost track
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of him I don't remember seeing Kyle leave that night I remember him coming in getting the pizza and then I don't
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see him leave that night now we're going to go to 2:42 a.m. this is when his phone places a call to this this is
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reported this way so forgive me it's reported he places a call to a business he went to earlier than that night and
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the call is unanswered there's been a lot of speculation about this I do not know why we know all of the other places
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and people that he attempted to call that night the parents his parents and family have his phone records they've
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been shared with police which has been valuable to their investigation but for some reason this
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line item they don't want to tell us the name of the place they just simply say he called a business that he went to
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earlier that night at 2:42 a.m. there's been great speculation that he probably called the Buckhead Saloon cuz he
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realized he left his debit card yeah went to pay for pizza oh snap no card sniky oh wait a second it's frigid out
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here I don't have my coat either 230 the bar closes he's worried he he he likely
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wants to make contact with somebody hey bartender I left my card in my my jacket
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if I'm going to walk right back to you if you could let me in I'll I'll leave a nice tip and be on my way and get my my
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coat but this is also why it's sad to me because you just wonder if he had no cash on him and he orders the pizza and
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they go sorry man and he realizes sooner he doesn't have his debit card if he would have had to turn around to get his
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debit card so he could buy the pizza would that alter the outcome of of Kyle's situation shortly after this
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unanswered call to a business that he went to earlier that night Kyle places a call to his own voicemail then between
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the minutes of 2:42 a.m. and 257 a.m. Kyle's device again we want to make sure we're
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saying it this way right because the only call we confirm can confirm 100% that he physically placed was the one
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from the bar earlier where he's on camera these other calls he likely did place these calls but we can't say
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definitively that it was him that made these calls just that the calls came from his phone so between the minutes of
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2:42 a.m. and 2:57 a.m. his phone calls his father three times Kyle called his dad's cell
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phone and his dad's work number so business landline again this is why these cases
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Fascinate the out ofy why would he call his father's business he knows his father's not going to be
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there I right burning the midnight oil at 2:57 a.m. so Kyle's father explains this and it's actually terrifying to
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hear Kyle's father explain this because he says that his conversation with people that are dialed into this sort of
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thing that that are in law enforcement and dialed into this investigation they've told him that this type of these
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type of actions and them happening so quickly and and all the calls going unanswered their fear is that by this
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point he he already feels like he's in trouble and it could be they've seen this type of stuff when somebody's in a
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vehicle that they don't want to be in that they're being moved to a location that they don't want to go to and they
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can't put the phone up to their ear or to their face because it's a it's a dead giveaway but they can they can hit
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buttons on their phone and attempt to call people to to raise the flag yeah and so his father in speculation says it
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could be as simple as in his phone there's a dad work dad phone Dad work Dad cell phone but or it's the same
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contact right with just two numbers saved so un calling Dad but he might not even have known that he's calling dad
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work and again the the call place to the place to the business that he was at earlier that night or day same thing he
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could just be hitting a redial button yeah um in a panic so unfortunately none of these calls go answered which which
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could have completely altered the set of events or whatever happened to Kyle afterwards so then at 3:00 a.m. his
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device places yet another call to his sister unanswered at 3:28 a.m. Kyle's device places a call to Dan okay so this
00:34:34
is Dan his buddy good friend where he parked his car this call these calls are seconds long this one's reported to be 4
00:34:42
seconds long this call is unanswered as well 3:29 a.m. Kyle's device places a call to Bruce this is one of his
00:34:50
roommates at the time the Call's 5 or 6 seconds long no answer 400 a.m. P cellular device is now seemingly dead or
00:35:01
turned off or destroyed by 4:00 a.m. it's no longer pinging it's no longer no more activity from Kyle's cell phone at
00:35:10
4:00 a.m. and it seems like there was no activity between the minutes of 3:30 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. yeah I would think as
00:35:17
far as law enforcement goes you could go well possibly something has happen to Kyle by this point but I would lean more
00:35:26
towards the idea well this is probably just when his phone battery is dead mhm since that
00:35:34
night his cell phone has been turned off there's never been any more activity on
00:35:41
that phone nor has there been any activity on his bank accounts as well and we do know that he left a debit card
00:35:48
or credit card and his coat at the bar we do know that he left his car parked at his
00:35:55
friend's home and it's believed that at the time that he went missing that he would have had on his person t-shirt
00:36:03
jeans dress shoes black leather wallet that he always carried and his car keys his cell
00:36:10
phone car keys wallet those items have not been found one thing here that is look whatever happened to Kyle that
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night a lot of bad luck again if if somebody would have been awake and could have answered one of those calls it it
00:36:26
could have dramatic Ally altered the outcome of that evening well I'm not going to victim blame but look it's not
00:36:34
it's no one's fault that they didn't answer they're probably not even awake no I totally understand that what I'm
00:36:39
saying is Kyle was in a a situation he was in a location that he wasn't super familiar with Y and he was intoxicated
00:36:49
and and he was alone mhm and I think that is just not a position that you want to be in and I think a lot of times
00:36:58
maybe people assume because he's he's a six foot tall he's he's a man he can take care of himself but anytime you're
00:37:06
by yourself you're making yourself a lot more vulnerable one thing we should probably address here because there will
00:37:13
be persons out there that say well maybe he just stepped out maybe he took off wanted to start a whole new life
00:37:21
elsewhere and let's not completely close that door let's I like to think of myself as an optimist and so I don't
00:37:29
want to completely close that door however the problem with that is you talk to his family friends and law
00:37:38
enforcement none of them seem to think that that's a likely possibility here a lot of that has to do with his close
00:37:46
personal relationships with his family and friends his personality he's got a career at this
00:37:53
point he's 24 he's got a career a condo a car there's not a person in that group
00:38:00
that says this guy he might have taken off maybe he's living on a beach somewhere maybe he started a whole new
00:38:05
life again this is like the Schaefer case a lot of people think that Brian Schaefer decided that night when he was
00:38:11
heavily intoxicated to leave town and start a new life we have no evidence that Kyle makes it back to his apartment
00:38:20
we have no evidence that he makes it back to his car right and that he doesn't even have his debit card and
00:38:27
while all of that stuff is bad luck for him the the the one thing that is good luck for the case for the investigation
00:38:36
MH is that he left his car at his friend's house had that not happened I don't know how long it would have been
00:38:43
before he would have been reported as missing well he didn't show up to work the next day right correct but people
00:38:49
don't show up to work all the time like so really what sparks this whole thing from into a missing person's case and
00:38:58
being reported missing is his car still being at his friend's house yeah but that's what's again I feel like a broken
00:39:05
record that's what's so fascinating with Kyle's case is now we have we have two pieces of evidence he doesn't show up
00:39:12
for work and all by the way his car is still at his friend's house yeah and there's always there's always something
00:39:19
that is confirming the other thing does that make any sense and in Kyle's thing we have well yeah there would be natural
00:39:27
there would be three places for him to go okay no matter what Adventure he goes on that night if if he were alive and
00:39:34
well naturally there would be three places that he would one of three places that he would go next he would go home
00:39:41
he would go get his car or he would go to work he would turn up at one of those three places he he does none of those so
00:39:48
what I'm pointing out here is that car is what propels this into attempting to get police involved because the friend
00:39:56
is like wait a second Kyle he wakes up he's like Kyle never came and got his car last night I hope he's okay friend
00:40:03
goes off to work has a normal day comes home Kyle's car still there so his buddy
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Dan is like he says he knows somebody that Kyle works with and he's concerned about his friend so he calls that person
00:40:16
that works with Kyle and says look man I don't know what's going on I have an uneasy feeling Kyle's car still here we
00:40:22
went out last night we had a great time and I know he was drinking heavily did Kyle go go to work today right that
00:40:28
person says no Kyle was absent so you're trying to call him on his cell phone you're trying to get in
00:40:34
touch with him the the friend then calls Kyle's roommate did he ever come home is
00:40:40
he just sleeping one off no he never came home so then the friend has to do what he did not want to do he had to
00:40:47
call Kyle's parents and say look we all went out last night we came home he stayed behind now we don't know where
00:40:55
the hell he is and the parents say would you please call the police and and and notify them that that he is missing at
00:41:02
this time so a lot of what happens during this timeline that we know of to me is it's not that strange it's not
00:41:10
strange for somebody to be having a good time and decide well you guys are leaving I'm going to stay behind it's
00:41:17
not that strange to be flirtatious with a girl or dance with a girl and then for that to be a a
00:41:26
conflict again no physical conflict it's not that strange to be intoxicated so you leave the bar and you forget your
00:41:33
debit card and you forget your coat not that strange to me that you're going to walk from that bar to find something to
00:41:39
eat because I'm the type once I have a couple drinks give me that slice of pizza those things I don't find super
00:41:47
odd right the thing that I find super odd and I wish I had more information on is the amount of phone
00:41:56
calls he was making and again if you now told me that this was 6:00 p.m. at night or 8:00 p.m. at
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night and he's making all these calls to his friends and family not that strange
00:42:11
but to make that many calls that late at night to me that's a big red flag exactly and that's what the
00:42:20
experts were telling his family that this to them appeared to be maybe he is already in the company of
00:42:29
somebody that he doesn't trust he feels threatened or he's being moved somewhere
00:42:33
that he doesn't want to go and this is just a a an SOS right trying to get help from anyone to alert someone that hey
00:42:44
something's going on here and I might not be able to put the phone to my face and talk but if somebody could pick up
00:42:50
maybe they could hear me and this person talking or this person talking to me or
00:42:56
or or hear that there is actually something going on we have to really red flag and underline for those of you out
00:43:02
there that are not familiar with this case while each of those movements on their own don't seem that big of a
00:43:09
mystery truly after everything after 220 a.m. when he is last seen on surveillance on security camera footage
00:43:20
at 220 a.m. walking in front of the bar on North College Street everything beyond that all those phone calls
00:43:29
potentially going into fuel Pizza those are all items that are up for debate we can't say Rock Solid 100% that that one
00:43:39
or any of those actions actually took place we can say that the phone calls were made but why we don't know we can
00:43:48
say that the phone calls were made but by who we can't say for certain that it was Kyle although it seems most likely
00:43:54
that it would have been Kyle well we have proof of some of the calls but not of the other calls and then again it's
00:44:00
like was there a purpose for him to be calling his father's work or did he just not know that he was
00:44:08
calling his father's work and he was trying to call his father's cell phone this is very strange and and really sad
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[Music] so much more to get to what a weird and fascinating case this is stick around
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for part two until then be good be kind and don't litter [Music] [Applause] [Music]