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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] So, everybody knows Fourth of July, Fourth of July weekend is always a big
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weekend for things like camping, boating, fishing. Mhm. So, north of Columbus, we have Alum Creek, which is a
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big lake as well as a state park. And on the 4th of July in the evening, they believe they being law enforcement
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believe that they found a body in this this state park area. So, the way that this goes down is at 6:30 p.m. Thursday,
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July 4th, an officer with the Ohio Department of Natural Resources was on foot patrol when he observed or she
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observed, sorry. Mhm. What appeared to be a shallow grave near the pooloff area in the 6 the 640 block of State Route 37
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near Alum Creek State Park. Well, not to cut you off, but we have a big celebration. one of the biggest in the
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country called Red, White, and Boom, which normally happens July 3rd. Mhm. I'm assuming it happened on July 3rd. Again,
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I I haven't gone to it in years, but uh Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think it's I think it's every year on July 3rd. So yes,
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there's family celebrations and stuff like that, but as far as Columbus, Ohio or this area is concerned, the big
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fireworks is normally on the 3, and that's like downtown, hundreds of thousands of people. Then normally the
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suburbs of Columbus will have like local fireworks around the 4th. Mhm. Well, this turns out to be it was on
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Friday, the next day that they identified the victim and her name was Britney McDow.
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She was a resident on the west side of Columbus or that according to her last address address listed, right, was in
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West Columbus. And her relatives say that say that they had not seen her for a while. Now, I don't know what that
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means. um you know cuz that doesn't give us much of a time frame there. No, but what investigators are saying is
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they do not know how McDall died, but said that the injuries she had led them to consider this a murder. So now
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they're moving forward with a homicide investigation. They wouldn't comment on her injuries as to what they were.
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28-year-old Mhm. Yeah. And so that it's going to go to the coroner's office and then they
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should be coming out with some kind of report after that. Yeah. So where the body was placed and just just the
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placement of the body itself, even when we talk about her injuries and and clearly there's
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something that shows them that this is in fact a homicide rather than something else. But
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um yeah, just just concealing the body in that way, driving, you know, just the distance
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from from that location to her home and then now you're inside the woods a little bit and you're buried in a
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shallow grave. I mean, those things not only point to homicide, but to me also kind of point
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to somebody went to a lot of effort to try to conceal this body. Thankfully, they were unsuccessful.
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And usually what what we found when we talk about cases similar to this is that this would be somebody the the likely
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perpetrator would be somebody fairly close to her. somebody on her inner circle, somebody that wanted to go to
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great lengths to conceal the body because we need a situation where she is not found, where she is just a missing
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person or or you know, somebody could believe or relatives could possibly believe that maybe she just took off.
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So, I think the the the weird thing for me here, though, is on on my way in this
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morning, I actually drove by the location, the general location. I didn't I didn't get out and try to trump
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through the woods or anything, but um well, I guess this it would be a spot that was used by a lot of
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fishermen. So, I wonder I I'm not questioning the officer, but you know, where I live,
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there is a there's a park and there's a lot of these pulloff service roads that people use to park their car and then go
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fishing or whatever. And so, I I just wonder, you know, I wonder was there a reason that the cop was out there? Did
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somebody tip Well, it wasn't a cop. It was a um Oh, did I mishar you? Yeah. So, it's actually somebody that that's
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that's part of their job description is to walk these areas. So, this is it was an officer. That's where it gets
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confusing. Okay. But it was an officer with the Ohio Department of Natural Resources who was out on foot patrol.
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Now, this area in particular, the reason why you would have an an officer from the natural resources uh
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department out there is there, you know, there's all kinds of illegal activity that could happen or take place in these
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areas. But then on top of that, it's as simple too as checking fishermen to do they have their fisher license, you
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know, right? Do they carry are they carrying the proper license? Sometimes people go out and you have your fisher
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license. So some you got your fisher license. Well, whatever it's called. Um it's actually called something. I used
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to purchase one every year, but haven't done so in a while. Um, but you also have people that this is a little more
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rare, but it does occur that that people will go out there and illegally hunt. Yeah. And so you got to protect these
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areas. And then on top of that, with it being by the lake, so where her body was
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found is near the bridge that goes over the lake. There's two or three there. I think there's three
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bridges that go over the lake. And this one would be the northernmost one. I believe.
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And you have a situation out in that area too where people that are out there partying or
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uh people just out having a good time will jump off the bridge or off of the little cliffs and the rocks there into
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the water, which they do not want people to do in that area. And I know this to be true with with most bodies of water
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where people go to a party and hang out and just have a good time. On occasion, you'll see like a little cross somewhere
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and it typically would be on a bridge or on one of these little cliffs and that's
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where somebody who was thought they were out having a good time was going to jump
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in the water from that spot and had a terrible accident didn't survive the jump. So, this is just an officer out
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doing doing their thing, doing their job. Finds this to what looked must have looked
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obviously to the officer that it was in fact a shallow grave because the report is that then this officer decided to
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feel around in the area to make sure that that they weren't just calling in something bogus. They originally
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thought because it's more probable that it would have been the grave of of an animal. And so they phoned it in and
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kudos to to all of our good smart people here in Ohio because the the team that actually dug up the body was our Bureau
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of Criminal Investigation. So they they got the right people out there. This is an attempt to keep the scene clean and
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preserve the scene and try to collect any evidence that may have been left behind during the course of trying to
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conceal the body. It's all real still new here. I mean, we're talking about the the body
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was found on the 4th and identification wasn't made until the 5th. And I I don't know how far this
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investigation will have to go before they talk to the the person or persons responsible. I I personally feel this is
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somebody on the inner circle of this young woman. And we also have a situation too where it does not appear
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or at least nobody's stating as such that she was ever reported missing. Again, we do not know how long. Uh well,
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yeah. Yeah, she's 28. Seems like she still lived with her grandmother. Yeah, she was Yeah, she was living with some
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relatives. Yeah. So, she was raised by her grandmother and uh and her grandmother says that she just kind of
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got into um was falling into a into a bad lifestyle and that's coming from her her her grandmother. And she said that
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uh uh she's going to miss her. Uh, she always knew that that that I loved her and she'd always tell me when she left,
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I love you, Grandma. So, what's so sad about some of these is again once once somebody says bad
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lifestyle, we don't know exactly what that means, but but that normally pulls attention away from cases like this. And
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the fact of the matter is here's a 28-year-old that had a lot of life to to live and maybe some bad choices were
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being made, but that's a lot of time to correct those choices and um and that's cut short and that opportunity is cut
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short by something. Now, you can get to Delaware from Columbus, you know, any number of ways, but would do you think
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so? So, her body was found near the uh Route 37. Yeah. And I know that's a a route that you've traveled several times
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because I've got to believe that most people going from Columbus up to that area or to the Delaware area. That's
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right. Off of 71. Right. Right. That's what I'm getting at. That they would take 71 north and then then get off on
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the 37 exit. So, yeah. My guess is she wasn't even hanging around there, right? That
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to me this seems like maybe happened somewhere elsewhere and hey, let's go up to Delaware there, you know, or maybe
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not even let's go to Delaware. Let's get in the car and drive to a spot that, you
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know, just keep driving until we we're out of the city and then one and then we think we're far enough out of the city.
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Let's go somewhere where we think that nobody's going to be looking for anything, right? And but the unique
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thing to me about this is if in fact the person that tried to conceal her body, if they did go up 71 north, again,
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that's the route that I would argue that most people would think to take, I they would have had to turn
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around to get to this actual pulloff here because it's not a um it's not like a two-lane road, one going east, one
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going west. This is separated, you know. We got we got lanes going two lanes going west, two lanes going east. So
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this this person if they went up to 71 north, they would have made a left heading west on 37 and then at some
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point turned around to head back to head back east, right? And get off on pull. You could pull off. I'm I'm a little
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familiar with this area cuz I've drove past this spot uh countless numbers of times and you can see there's a little
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pulloff and it's not uncommon to see a car pulled off there where somebody has parked their vehicle, their truck or
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whatever and they've walked a bit of ways down to the lake so they can go fishing, right? And so this person would
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have had to have pulled off and then there's a trail there and I can't from the crime scene.
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Well, this isn't crime scene photos. This is the news news station photos of the outside of the crime scene area. But
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if I in fact have the right spot, one thing you can see from the road immediately
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there is there's like a an orange sign held up by some wooden post. And I've seen a lot of people that will trump
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back through there. Right near that sign, there's a trail head. And I it's not like an official state park trail.
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It it looks to me to be more of people have trampled over that area for years to get down to the lake from there cuz
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it's kind of the quickest spot from the parking area. And so it looks to me like
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somebody just went in there with the body and then buried it off of off of that trail
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there. So the person I mean, it just the only thing that makes sense is that that the body was
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transported by car. I know we're keep saying referencing the lake and Alum Creek there, but you
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wouldn't it would be much more difficult to try to move this by boat and then get
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up into that area. Yeah, unless they're partying. I mean, it's Look, they find the body. Again, the autopsy is going to
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tell us a lot of things. I mean, the rig and mortise, how long do they think that
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she was there for? Um, because it's not impossible that she was party on a boat with somebody. Was there an accident on
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the boat? Was there an accident with these quote unquote bad lifestyle decisions? It's hard to say. I think the
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issue becomes Well, but I think the injuries to the body, we're we're treating this as a homicide is telling
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in itself. No, no, I agree. But again, uh that's pretty vague statement, right? There's some injuries, so we're going to
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treat this as a homicide. Well, but that doesn't mean that they're not going to come out and say, "Well, we actually
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think those injuries happen postmortem or whatever." Right? So, we're just going to find out more
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about this. But again, with the quote unquote bad lifestyle choices, uh, you know, is this
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going to be something that that they actually highlight within the news stories or is it just going to kind of
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be swept under the rug? Um, I think the difficult thing for law enforcement is whether boat or car. And I I I I agree
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with you and you know that area way better than I do, but I agree with you that chances are
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right car, right? Well, seems to make more sense. Well, and I say that for a whole bunch of reasons. one to get to to
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carry something of that weight to get to that area from a boat would be extremely
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it's already going to be difficult to do it from a car, right? But it would be 10
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times more difficult to do it from a boat. There's not really there's not great spots over there to to dock the
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boat either, right? And then on top of that, those waters are patrolled better than the roads in that area. Yeah. And
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but and we're talking about a, you know, there are people that live in that area that used to own boats or will
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never own boats going forward because the water's just too busy. There's too many people on the water all the time.
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So it it I would guess that somebody drove up there probably under the cover of night was looking for what they
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thought to be a good spot. Who knows? Maybe they knew this area for some reason, right? And that's why I brought
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up this big shindig on the 3 because whatever happens happens on the third happens at night. The body's
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not found until, you know, the the early evenings of the next day. You see what I mean? Like she's 28 years
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old. Was she partying with some people? You know, h how many days was she's missing from? And and then you
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think cell phone records would at some point and they they don't say if she was found with any cell phone records, but
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if the family can get the cell phone records, then you you might know who she was trying to hang out with on the
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third. And did that have anything to do or she was even alive on the third? Right. Agree. Yeah. I mean, because
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again, we we also don't know how long she was missing because when people say, "Well, I haven't seen them in a while."
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That's two days. It's also surprising to me, not just for the turnaround purposes
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of of having to turn the vehicle around when you're traveling that direction and
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then to access this this um pulloff area. That is a little surprising. I when I saw it on the news to begin with,
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I actually thought it was on the other side of the road because it would take less effort to get there, right? But the
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other thing that was surprising to me too is this that portion it especially that portion of that road of that state
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route. There's almost always I can't think of one time that I drove past there and there wasn't a highway patrol
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car just chilling on one side or the other of the road because that's one of those spots, Captain, where you know the
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the speed limit drops down from 65 to 35. Yeah. in a fairly short range. And so that's a great spot to to catch
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people speeding because a lot of people go, "This seems like a country road. I was going 65 a few minutes ago. I'll
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just keep going 65." So yeah, that's a a surprising uh location uh for for a number of I but
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I think the other difficult thing here with law enforcement is going to be that like I said we have these big events,
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hundreds of thousands of people coming into town on July 3rd. So people from all over the state. So, not saying that
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she was, but that could put her um hanging out with people that aren't super close to her, her inner circle,
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you know what I mean? Cousins come to visit, you know, next thing you know, you're you're hanging out with a um you
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know, your your group has grown a little bit larger and you don't know some of the people. So, I think that makes uh a
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little bit more difficult for law enforcement being on the third and finding her on the fourth. But I also
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think it makes it more challenging whether it's travel by boat or or travel by car where both of us believe that the
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crime probably didn't happen there and they never said that there's evidence that the crime happened where this
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shallow grave was. But that then it becomes did you the locals that might see something suspicious? you're
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probably not going to take notice so much on the third or the fourth because you got a lot more people traveling on
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those roads and a lot more people out of town visiting family. You see what I mean? So, I just think that becomes
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um a battle that law enforcement is going to have to [Music] face. Stop the presses. How did Unsolved Mysteries used
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to do that? They did the update update and then the music and you'd get all excited like oh
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because sometimes the updates were about cases that they were currently covering
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like you just watched missing kid. Yeah. Boom update. And they'd be like we found the
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missing kid and you're like oh but sometimes it'd be like boom update and it'd be about some
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episode two years ago. Right. Right. And I'm guessing that a lot of that was because they're filming these things way
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in advance and determining what cases are on what episode way in advance. And if something takes place between the
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production of that episode and the release of it, they're able to quickly update it. So, we're kind of doing that
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today. What you just heard is a conversation that the captain and I had a week ago, and that was when this case
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was very new. And there has there's just been one week since that conversation and there's been some big updates. So
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there was an arrest made. Uh they arrested John Bartholomew uh aged 24. I guess he was a pretty good kid though.
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Yeah, he had no criminal record. Uh according to the local Channel 6 news here, right now this is still in the
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very early stages. So more could come out and they they could be wrong about some of this information. But basically
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what they are saying is and that's all we have is the very basics because last I saw John was not required to enter a
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plea but he was brought before a a judge or or brought to a court appearance anyway and he was this court appearance
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took place he was via video from the jail and he is being held on $1.5 million bond.
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for the death of Britney McDow. And as we said, her body was discovered on July 4th at a state park here in
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Ohio. We you can't really gain anything from his court appearance because there wasn't there wasn't really anything need
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needed to be said on his behalf since he wasn't required to enter a plea at that
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time. Mhm. But he is charged with murder, tampering with evidence, and abuse of a corpse. And then there is a
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probable cause affidavit, which if you read that, it shines some light on what actually took place or what they believe
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to have taken place. Uh Bartholomew told investigators that he picked up Britney
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McDow on Sullivan Avenue and paid her $60 for sex. And apparently after sex, she demanded more money from him. This
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caused an argument and at some point he decides to win the argument or lose the argument or just be a total [ __ ] and
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he shot her once. This is with a 22 caliber handgun, but then he shoots her again a second time with a 9 mm firearm.
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So he's wherever they were. This affidavit doesn't really say where this murder took
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place, but wherever that argument occurred, he has two loaded firearms on his person or near him, and
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he shoots her twice. Once each time with a different gun. Now, apparently the way that this guy
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got busted, he told his father, so there was like blood in his car. So the the the
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murder may have taken place in the vehicle. Yeah. But we know that even if it didn't, he transported her body miles
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and miles and miles away and buried her in a shallow shallow grave up at the state park. So he tells his father that
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that he had left a dead squirrel in the back of his car. So Bartholomew's father
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hires a cleaning company to clean the vehicle, get rid of the blood. So the cleaning company shows up and they see
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the blood in this dude's car. They don't clean the car. They call Delaware County
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Sheriff's Office and report the vehicle to them. Good. Good for them. Yeah. So, um, this led them to him. He's 24 years
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old. Cuz I I don't think it seems like a situation where the dad was trying to cover this up. No, I think the father
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just didn't have any clue what was actually going on. And he he even says to the news, he's like, "Look, we were
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super blindsided by this whole thing and and even more floored that their son admitted to this.
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uh this is not something that they expected or or ever thought would be right. And and who knows how much blood
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was actually in the car and he might have just saw a little blood and then when the crew came to clean it up they
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went whoa what happened here. Well, he says his son is um I mean he stood up for him saying that look he's got no
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prior record and he's I always thought he was a good kid. He was going to college. Oh, he graduated last December
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from Columbus State Community College. Mhm. With an associates degree. But he he did say in the last few months his
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son was behaving differently and was um not really social the last few months. And
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so this is what I wonder about here because I've often thought that if you are hiring a a working girl, whatever you
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want to call it, there's many different terms. Some of them are less flattering than others, a sex worker, right?
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So, I've always thought that that could be a dark place for some people. You know, not everybody, not all the time,
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but you have to wonder what's going on inside this individual that they're choosing to to have a relationship this
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way, if if you want to call it that. this is what they're choosing to go out and do rather than what most other
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people would do with with meeting people in public places and and you know uh there's a million different ways to meet
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your significant other. This this paying for $60 for sex, remember I said just last week when we
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were talking about this, I wouldn't be surprised if this was somebody close to the victim and I thought it would be
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solved very quickly. I was right that it that it looks like it's going to be solved quickly, but it doesn't appear
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that this this man John Bartholomew age 24 that he was a part of her social circle. Yeah. But it also didn't look
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like there was any knowledge by her family that she was um or had became a sex worker. Well, she had she had been
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charged with soliciting in the past. Did she? And I didn't know that. And I didn't I don't think I got into that
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when you and I had our first conversation because she also had some jug some drug charges. I can't can't
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talk today. Um drank too much. But sometimes you can get uh when they don't clarify what the soliciting charges for,
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it gets a little difficult because you can get charged for soliciting drugs, right? So, I didn't want to jump to any
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conclusions in my own mind that it was for sex work or prostitution or whatever. And so, it it seems like
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that's probably the situation. They may not have been aware of this. But the other thing that I wonder about here is
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I I don't think I'm entirely wrong on saying that this guy might have been on her social circle, one of her social
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circles. And what I mean by that is there's a chance he could have been a repeat John. Well, I can't call him
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John. That's what his damn name is. But well, he was a repeat John. Yeah. And every day he was a John. No, but I this
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just makes you wonder a couple of things here. So every day I'm hustling. If it seems to me very strange that the
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result is to murder her over this argument. I almost wonder if there was there's something else going on there.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, it could be drugrelated on Jon's end. It could be drug. It could be some kind of mental
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break that he was having. But you very easily could have, let's say this argument takes place or she is demanding
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more money or whatever. I don't want to say that that's the facts of the case. That's what he says. That's what the
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murderer says is his side of the story, right? I don't know. I don't I'm choosing not to believe. Well, he also
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claims that, you know, she did she demanded more money and then she threatened him with a taser. Now, if
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that's true, if if she was found with a taser or they found a taser in his car, maybe that
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story is a little more true. That makes more sense cuz I the story I got was shorter than that, briefer than that.
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And I was thinking, I'm like, there has to be something else going on because if
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she's demanding more money for sex and that part's all over with, right? Bought paid for all whatever, it's it's very
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easy to just go get the hell out of my car or or or flee from from that person, right? Yeah. It the the murder seemed
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like a big jump, but I guess yeah, if she was if in fact she was threatening him. John looks very young. He does. It
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makes me feel old. This dude's 24. And I looked at him. I'm like, "This dude's a
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kid." He looks like a middle schooler. And he's wearing You You see that uh turtle suit he has. Yeah. That is the
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Suicide Watch turtle suit. That was back when I told you they put me in a turtle
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suit. That's what it looks like. Well, so I what I think is going to happen here is I don't think we're going to get
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what may be the real story unless they make him because I have to believe if he's already told investigators what
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they wanted to hear that he would be willing to plead guilty if in fact the prosecutor will allow him to do so and
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and have some type of plea agreement. They're not going to give him like self-defense or anything though. No. No.
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But what I mean is sometimes in a plea agreement, part of the plea agreement is to uh sign a sworn statement of the the
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actual events of everything that took place. Well, and unless they do that, we may never know more of the story if
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there is in fact more to the story. I tell me if you agree or disagree, but I'm going to lean on the side that John
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is actually telling the truth that he that he was threatened with a taser. And the reason why I'm going to lean to that
00:31:36
being true is that if you are trying to make your crime seem less or possibly get charged with something
00:31:47
less, say she threatened you with a gun. Say she threatened you with a knife. Now
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it's self-defense, taser. No, you know, that'd be like him saying, "Well, she threatened me with pepper
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spray and and and a taser." So, I I lean to that possibly being more true. And I actually lean to the fact
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that I think if what his parents are saying is correct, this kid is going through
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something that does not make the murder right at all. M he he stopped the potential of
00:32:24
Britney. Look, everybody in her family said that she was going through some stuff, but that doesn't mean she wasn't
00:32:30
going to get out of it, and that doesn't mean that she wasn't going to live a beautiful life. He stopped that
00:32:38
opportunity, horrible person. But if he was just a horrible person during this time and wasn't beforehand and maybe is
00:32:47
not going to be after and what if what his parents were saying is correct, we have at least a chance of John saying,
00:32:55
"Look, this is what happened." Whether people believe him fully or not, um, you know, obviously he didn't go to
00:33:03
his parents and confess or he didn't go to the police and confess, right? Um, he
00:33:07
tried to cover it up, right? But uh but there's a lot of times where people have
00:33:14
done really bad things when they get caught, they go here, let me tell you everything, you know, and I I will do
00:33:22
whatever time I have to do. Well, I mean, he's Yeah, he he Okay, so he tells investigators what happened, but he's
00:33:31
kind of already [ __ ] at that point, right? I mean, he's her blood's in his car. They found her body. This would be
00:33:37
a whole different story if they would have found her body two months later, right? This this whole connection of the
00:33:44
blood in the car may have never been connected or reported, right? So, this is uh this is one of those
00:33:53
things I think what will probably happen here if the prosecutors are willing to work with him and if he is willing to
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talk and say everything that uh you know his side of the story or whatever you want to call it. I think what will
00:34:10
probably happen is he'll still get the murder charge and they'll probably drop these
00:34:16
lesser charges as a way to wheel and deal with him without giving up too much. You
00:34:22
know, we'll drop the tampering with evidence. We'll drop the abuse of a corpse and you'll get the murder charge
00:34:30
probably 25 years. Mhm. Maybe not get life on this, but uh he he's probably going to
00:34:39
get 20ome years before they even consider him for parole. Yeah, I do like the fact that they said the bond so
00:34:47
high. Um I think that's a good thing. 1.5 million is is pretty high in the state
00:34:55
of Ohio. Mhm. And hopefully they take this uh case very serious because uh I um I was trying to find the other case
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of the girl that was found in the park to see what the bond his bond was set at.
00:35:13
Um, I just hope hope that um the system, the court system doesn't take this lightly because Britney was
00:35:22
going through something uh and was not in a great place in her life. I don't think they will. I think I think this uh
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1.5 million bond points out that the prosecutor's office is taking this very seriously, as they should.
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