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talk some true [Music] crime early in 2019 wife and husband Liz in Sergio barazza were planning to leave
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for Orlando Florida for a trip to Universal Studios in Disney but just days before this trip celebrating the
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couple's fifth wedding anniversary and to everyone's shock and horror on Friday January 25th at approximately 6:55 a.m.
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Liz barazza was shot multiple times while setting up a yard sale in front of her home during the incident the victim
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was approached by an unknown suspect in her driveway the suspect shot the victim
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multiple times and fled in a dark colored Nissan Frontier pickup truck detectives are hoping that footage
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from security cameras that captured the incident will lead to the identification
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of the murderer Liz's husband Sergio barazza said quote it is so cruel and evil what they did to Liz she didn't
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deserve any of this Sergio who is now remarried says he still loves Liz and hopes an arrest in the case will be made
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soon quote I hope police just have something they're holding on to and getting ready to snap their jaws around
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it lizz's parents created a website who killed Liz bara.png case of Liz barza and this is true crime
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[Music] garage Elizabeth Marie barazza who went by Liz was just 29 years old when she
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was killed in front of her home on Friday January 25th 2019 she was born Elizabeth Marie nelli
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on June 26 1989 to parents Robert and rosemary Liz has an older brother his name is Robert nelli the thir she was
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born in Elk grve Village Illinois the family moved to Texas and Liz graduated from Klein Collins High School in 2008
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four years later Liz graduated from Sam Houston State University with a bachelor's degree and psychology Liz met
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Sergio barazza while in college at Sam Houston State University in Huntsville Texas the two married and were getting
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ready to celebrate their fifth wedding anniversary at the time that Liz was attacked and killed Liz and Sergio
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adopted a Doxon puppy while in college and named him diesel and there are plenty of pictures and images online of
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little diesel now a little bit about Liz that we absolutely must know before we move forward Liz loved the Chicago Cubs
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she loved Harry Potter the whole franchise and was constantly reading the books and rereading the Harry Potter
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books Liz and Sergio love to go to the Texas Renaissance Festival dressed in costumes that they had created
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themselves and I've seen some of these pictures online here captain and these were very not just creative costumes but
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also very detailed and it looked like they spent yeah a lot of time and a lot of effort and probably a lot of expense
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went into creating these very intricate and detailed costumes the baraz is volunteered for a group that
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works with the makea Wish Foundation so the two especially Liz would go to hospitals and visit sick kids in the
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hospital dressed in some of these costumes to try to cheer them up especially around holidays like
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Halloween and Christmas time yeah mostly uh like Star Wars characters and things
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like that she loved fantasy attended ComicCon conventions with Sergio and was known for her kindness and generosity
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Liz and Sergio barazo were married on February 1st 2014 they did not have any children the
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married couple purchased their home in the Princeton Place subdivision in April of 2016 this is located in tumball Texas
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Liz and Sergio were both members of the 501 I also have written down here Captain the 501st legion star Garrison
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South Texas Squadron and from my understanding this is one of the groups that they belong to sort of a club and
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this is where they would get to show off their Star Wars fandom with other big fans of the franchise and this was part
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of their make AWI Foundation charity work that they did as well yeah Liz and Sergio would have made a excellent
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couple on the show Big Bang Theory they like to nerd out which I think is super cool I think everybody should nerd out
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more at the time of her death Liz was on the Command Staff as an event coordinator for the South Texas Squad
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the 501 501st for work Liz worked at the Rosen group as a data reporter and Sergio worked with his father Oscar as a
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crew chief installing floors in floring Liz and Sergio were planning to leave for Orlando Florida for a trip to
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Universal Studios and Disney on Sunday January 27th 2019 again to celebrate their fifth
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wedding anniversary I do need to point out here captain that some reports state that they were due to leave on Monday
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morning rather than Sunday but either way they're expected to leave days after she was murdered yes either the Sunday
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after or the Monday after so just a short period after this horrible incident takes place and as said sadly
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before any of that could take place and to everyone's shock on Friday January 25th 2019 at approximately 655 a.m.
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Elizabeth barazza was shot multiple times in front of her home during the incident the victim was approached by an
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unknown suspect in her driveway while preparing for a garage sale the suspect shot the victim multiple times and fled
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in a dark colored Nissan Frontier pickup truck the victim Liz died as a result of
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the injuries and Liz's family and the barza family is requesting the community's help with identifying the
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suspect responsible for this murder there are four amazing sources that we leaned on heavily for this episode and
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those were clickto houston.com which is kprc2 new news also KH hu1 and friend of the show Mike
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morford's podcast murder in my family episodes 139 and 140 and if you are interested in learning more about the
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Elizabeth Baraza murder case then go to her site her website who killed Liz bar.com was created by lizz's parents
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and it's maintained by them as well we have a timeline of events that we're going to go through and the time frames
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here Captain starts with January 24th 2019 now we have a very precise timeline of events to go through thanks to the
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website who killed Liz bar.com there is an FYI on the site for the timeline so let's start there FYI
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the events listed here are critical points in the incident timeline these times were gathered from four sources
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the Boseman video a commercial retail video The barza Nest doorbell video and the call slip from the incident
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discrepancies may be due to the cameras not all having the correct time entries marked approximately are according to
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our memories and may not be exact so starting off on January 24th 2019 that's a Thursday okay now we had
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already mentioned that either on Sunday or Monday there taking off for this trip
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that both had been looking forward to I saw some interviews with Sergio and it sound like a good deal of planning had
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gone down for this trip that they had even made t-shirts that they were going to wear during the course of this trip
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and that Liz had already packed her suitcase and was ready to roll were they matching t-shirts I I have no idea I
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just wanted to see how nerdy we're going to get cuz if you're going to go go all
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out right their husband and wife they made shirts I'm assuming there there was some some connection that they're either
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matching or that they are identical or lookalike something of that nature so on this Thursday we have husband and wife
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Sergio and Liz discussing a garage sale setup the plan was to have a garage sale
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on Friday and Saturday Sergio would be going to work as normal on Friday but Liz had already made arrangements to be
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off from work on on that Friday that same evening they go to two different places two different locations in their
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neighborhood and they put up a garage sale sign announcing the garage sale for the Friday and Saturday and this is kind
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of a spur of the- moment idea the barazas they had money they didn't have money problems they lived in a nice
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neighborhood they drove nice cars they were going on this nice trip the wife was planning to be off on that Friday
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Frid I'm guessing because of the trip to get ready for the trip and spur of the moment Thursday night they're like hey
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let's have a garage sale and we'll have a little bit of extra walking around money for I'm guessing for the trip yeah
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it's key to know that this was not planned so well in advance for the garage sale because they didn't do
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any type of advertising other than the two signs that were put out and this will become key because we know that she
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is killed during the process of setting up that garage sale so it's already a limited number of people that would know
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about the garage sale itself one thing that Mike Morford cleared up this case has been reviewed extensively
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online and anytime you have that you have a wealth of good information and you also have a wealth of not great
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information on the case and so some of the details are just wrong online that you will find and one thing Mike Morford
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was able to do was to clear up a discrepancy that needed to be cleared up frankly was that it was reported or and
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cited online many times that this was an annual deal for them like they would take the trip they would they would have
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a garage sale right before they would take a trip and that this was an annual thing that the couple did and in fact it
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wasn't this was not the case at all they didn't have an annual garage sale so that is one thing that will be key to
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know going forward so let's go into Friday right we're going to start off quite early on Friday morning the first
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event that we have in our timeline is at 6:08 a.m. Liz drives by herself to the local Starbucks to get a coffee this is
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before she is setting up for her garage set at 6:16 a.m. she returns home and we
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know this because uh she arrives home and is seen on surveillance video and she begins setting up items in her
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driveway for the garage sale just 1 minute later after she returns Liz is joined by Sergio who is helping to bring
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items outside and placing them on the driveway from my understanding Captain some of these were rather larger items I
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know that there was a treadmill and some other large items and Sergio part of their plan from the night
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before was hey we got we got to get up a little early because I have to be at work at a specific time right but these
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heavy items I want to help you with before I leave for work and I think it's uh crucial to point out that he was
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running a little bit late to work because he was helping his wife set out some of these items and I also think
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it's important to note that I believe lizz's father was planning to come over to help her with the garage sale that
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morning so this setup takes takes place between 617 and 6:47 a.m. now at 6:47 a.m. a
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Nissan Frontier arrives and pulls into the neighborhood the Preston Place Drive location from and I'm going to give my
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best shot on this one here Captain kendle Road and I'll spell it if anybody wants to look it up just in case I
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completely butchered the pronunciation it's KU y ke n d a h l Road so this Nissan Frontier pulls into
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Preston Place Drive and then drives into The Goddard School parking lot and it we're assuming that it just kind of sits
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there briefly now unfortunately we have a lot of detailed information and a lot of great timestamps here on our timeline
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but this is one part that is missing right we have a lot of this this information because of surveillance
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cameras we listed the four sources that they come from but the garded school parking lot cameras were not working on
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this day now within seconds maybe a minute at most the Nissan Frontier leaves The
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Goddard School parking lot and is not seen it must be concealed somewhere on a different
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street at 6:48 a.m. Sergio leaves to go to work so he hops in his white panel van and drives off that's 648 at 651 the
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Nissan Frontier comes back into view on one of the surveillance cameras heads toward the barza home then at 652 a.m.
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the murderer the driver of the the truck does a three-point turn on Cedar walk and then drives up and parks behind
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lizz's car gets out of the vehicle walking toward the driveway where Liz is still
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she's busy setting up the garage sale at this time it's believed that Liz says good morning and then the murderer
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speaks to her for just seconds there are three quick shots and then a fourth shot
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delivered Point Blank once Liz has collapsed on the driveway this whole incident the from
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from start to finish from the the killer approaching the driveway to the to the shots fired four of them takes
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approximately 30 seconds so it's very quick we know that it it's a dark color color pickup truck it's seen pulling up
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and then the suspect who and we'll get into some of the speculation and thoughts about the suspect when we go
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through some of the later details in our timeline here again this happens very very quickly so by 6:53 a.m. Captain the
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murder Sprints back to the truck gets in the truck and leaves now we have a neighbor who's
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listed as Mr D this Mr D calls 911 saying I heard four gunshots tells the operator look I even saw this truck this
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pickup truck leave yeah so just to reiterate everything you're saying we have this truck that pulls into this
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neighborhood and stop me at any point that you think I'm wrong but to describe this neighborhood to me it's it's the
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typical American suburb neighborhood this truck pulls into a position that they can see the van leave # banthan the
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suspect or the killer approaches Liz like you said it's very nonchalant there's it seems like there's this
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individual is not rushing something is exchanged some kind of words or conversation like
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you said there's four shots but I think it's important to know that the shots there's four shots but it goes like bang
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bang bang bang like three consecutive shots a little bit of a pause and then the
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fourth shot and then the individual like you said takes off running gets into the
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truck and then takes off but it doesn't seem like they take off like a bat out of hell or anything yeah
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the one part of this too is like the captain was saying with the fourth shot it it's three shots and then the killer
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Moves In for a point blank shot fourth shot the fourth and final shot so then we have one of the neighbors calling 911
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at 653 that's the Mr D saying he heard four gunshots and sees this truck leaving
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at 658 about 5 minutes later we have a another neighbor Mrs o calls 911 says that she can she's observing someone
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lying in the neighbor's driveway and prior to that she had heard four gunshots and by this point she
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starts to see police arriving on the scene during her call to 911 almost at this exact same time
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Captain we have another neighbor who goes by Mrs B called 9911 saying someone is shot I saw it on my home security
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camera so we have multiple eyewitnesses but we also have multiple angles of surveillance footage of the attack and
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of this individual yes and so we're going to go back in time just a couple of minutes here because while all of
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this is going down we have some more movement that we know about this truck so at 65 5 a.m. the murderer in the
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truck exits Preston place subdivision but then does a uturn to re-enter the neighborhood and then
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seconds later the truck is captured on lizz's doorbell camera passing back by Liz's house that's at
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655 a little after 655 and remember the the killer based on this timeline had just left the driveway
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sprinting back to the truck at 653 so there's a lot of things going on here very quickly by 658 before 6 the time
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stamp here Captain is 658 with 52 seconds Harris County Precinct has got four officers arriving to investigate and to
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secure the scene and of course they're arriving to the scene and they see the victim dead
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or dying laying in the driveway helpless at 7:19 a.m. so just 20 minutes later the officers decide to
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enter the barza home they need to clear and secure the home this set off the barazza alarm system so the garage door
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the big garage door was open and inside the garage door the man door lead from the garage into the home that door was
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closed and unlocked however the alarm was set so as soon as that door is opened it's going to trigger the bar's
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home security alarm I want to discuss this detail a bit here from my understanding this was a safety
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precaution now what I could not sort out is was this a safety precaution specifically set up and arranged for
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this day for the garage sale or was this a safety precaution that the barazas used all of the time right because I
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know with and this is something that I always tell people there they're people that live alone and then when they find
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out what it is that that I do for a living they ask for like safety tips and one of one of the tips I give them is
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this same tip right here I I live by this one and shout out to Simply Safe and all the great security systems that
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have sponsored this show over the years but one thing that everybody should be doing with their alarm system is this
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right if you are outside if you are especially if you're home alone but even if you're not home alone if you're
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outside and you're doing things like yard work or anything that's going to take up any amount of time at all and
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you got that garage door open set the alarm to your house that way if you're in the backyard how are you to know if
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somebody just walks right up your driveway and walks into your home home and waits there for you there's no way
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you know who set the alarm that day well I I can't say with with 100% certainty but we know by the time that he leaves
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Sergio leaves for work the alarm is has been activated so either him or Liz set the
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alarm that day while she's still outside working on the setting up the garage sale and he gets a notification right he
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gets a notific as well that the alarm's going off what happens here is this is also going to trigger another event
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where lizz's parents are notified by her alarm company that the alarm has been triggered and they cannot reach Liz
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because that they'll often call sometimes they will try to call to say hey is this a false alarm do you need
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any help should we send fire should we send police right when they can't get a hold of Liz they call lizz's parents and
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lizz's parents not knowing what triggered the alarm they immediately leave and head toward lizz's home some
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information that I'm not that clear on which I'd like to know the answer to is her father was supposed to be there
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early in the morning there was a reason why he was running late um he also is an
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individual that is always carrying a firearm on him so if he would have been there he could have protected his
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daughter like what were were saying earlier about the vent of having a garage sale was sporadic it was not
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known until the day before but the husband would have known I'm assuming the husband would have
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known that his father-in-law was coming over to be with his wife during the garage sale time yes it's gets real
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tricky here Captain because like we said earlier very few people knew or had awareness in advance of this garage sale
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[Music] Safe all right we are back cheers mates talk cans in the air cheers cheers to the people in the
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back party to the people onward and upward cheers to you Colonel cheers to you captain now we don't know exactly
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what time but Cypress Creek EMS arrive on the scene and they notify the Memorial Herman Life Flight so they're
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arranging for a Life Flight for Liz the life flight arrives to train transport livz to Memorial Herman at 7:21 a.m.
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then her parent then her parents Rosemary and Bob arrive on the scene at 7:36 a.m. this is just after the life
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flight takes off and so when they get to the scene their the first thing they are
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learning is something happened somebody was shot in the driveway and there a Life Flight has taken place which is
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never you know your only doing a LifeLight in the most dire of situ situations yeah and so to be clear Liz
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is shot four times we have eyewitnesses and ear witnesses that hear four shots she is hit by all four of those shots 2
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minutes after Rosemary and Bob arrive on the scene Sergio arrives back at the house and
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he's immediately detained by law enforcement for questioning right then and there and as he describes it he gets
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the notification tells his dad and tells his crew that he's working with that day
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that he has to go home he has to take off and so he returns rather quickly and as said he's arriving on the scene just
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two minutes after her parents arrive on the scene and then at 8:02 a.m Rosemary and Bob leave Liz's house this was to go
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to the hospital now what's crazy about this whole situation I mean there's a million things that that we need to get
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into the detail of but one detail that the police figure out rather quickly remember they have this is a middle
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class Suburban neighborhood as typical middle class Suburban neighborhood as as any of you can picture and so you have a
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lot of neighbors and people that live in this neighborhood that have the nest doorbell cameras they have security
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systems they have security cameras police are going to go go and do a you know knock on doors and question people
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what did you hear what did you see one thing that they quickly learn is that with all these people that have doorbell
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cameras and with security cameras that they are able to view this footage put together this timeline that we just
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reviewed but they find a a even more disturbing detail that the black niss on Frontier believed to be the exact same
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truck was observed on cameras driving by lizz's house mhm in the early morning hours at approximately 2 a.m. she shot
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around 655 this same vehicle seems to be doing some reconnaissance here taking Intel of
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the situation prior to the shooting that takes place roughly 5 hours later one it's crazy too and and a little strange
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last week we covered a case in Texas what is the suspect driving a black truck so what did I say last week
00:37:04
finding a black truck in Texas is like a needle and a Hy stack but the difference
00:37:09
here is that we do know it's a Nissan there was some confusion at the beginning to figure out what model of
00:37:17
Nissan it was but the model that it is and the package because these trucks normally have these packages it be it
00:37:26
becomes a very rare type of truck so that should narrow down your search and make it easier I think this case is so
00:37:34
frustrating because you have ear Witnesses eyewitnesses we have tons of camera footage why isn't this case
00:37:41
solved the next day Saturday January 26 2019 sadly Liz nelli barazza is pronounced dead by the trauma team the
00:37:53
life gift team assumes control of her care to prepare her for for organ donation Liz was an organ donor and her
00:38:01
generosity saved four lives and gave one other the gift of sight that Wednesday Captain the following Wednesday Crim
00:38:11
Stoppers of Houston hosted a press conference to review the case and announce a reward of $220,000 for
00:38:18
information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible then let's fast forward to
00:38:26
January 2021 when we get new information that comes out and they up the reward money
00:38:34
when this new information is released to the public and what they were doing was
00:38:38
they were releasing additional surveillance video that was taken from the neighborhood on the morning of the
00:38:45
murder the new video came from a neighbor's Nest doorbell camera which showed the suspect drive past the house
00:38:54
turn around come back and park their vehicle park the truck the suspect then gets out to approach
00:39:01
Liz while and some of this is up for de for debate this description here says the suspect gets out and approaches Liz
00:39:10
while wearing boots a night gown dress or a Mumu and possibly wearing a wig and you can see in this video we'll do our
00:39:19
best to try to tell you what we think we are seeing what we think we are observing in this video yeah the suspect
00:39:26
to me is is walking purposefully right it's not casually not trying to be quiet La Fair not trying to sneak up on Liz
00:39:36
this person person is walking with a purpose and I almost it looks to me almost like this P person is marching up
00:39:45
to the driveway just in front of Liz and there does appear to be some interaction
00:39:52
between Liz and the suspect yeah I believe law enforcement has stated that they have audio I just don't know how
00:40:00
clear that audio is so that that's really interesting to me here Captain because you're exactly right they do
00:40:07
have some audio that was picked up and I believe it was picked up from lizz's doorbell
00:40:11
camera and you know so the the motion activates the doorbell camera now the camera is recording and it's going some
00:40:19
of them will pick up audio as well and it seems like every report that I've reviewed it seems like the belief is
00:40:26
that Liz says hello to the person or hi so it seems like that the the general consensus everybody agrees that that
00:40:35
high or hello is stated now whatever is said after that it's quite distorted and
00:40:43
people have offered up their thoughts online about what it is that was said one of them that I found
00:40:51
incredibly eerie and intriguing at the same time is one person thought that they were hearing the force sent me or I
00:41:00
was sent by the force which would play a role into their Star Wars club that they
00:41:08
belong to yeah and a lot of these you know the comiccons or the the events that they would go to these festivals
00:41:16
with like-minded individuals there's definitely that something that is said words are
00:41:21
exchanged it doesn't sound it sounds more like pleasantries being exchanged rather than some like like somebody
00:41:28
being angry or aggressive with their words but what is clear to me what my eyeballs are telling me Captain is the
00:41:36
suspect doesn't have the gun visible to our victim until right before the shooting starts
00:41:43
well like I said we have ear Witnesses we have eyewitnesses we have multiple camera angles and from one of the angles
00:41:51
to me it it almost looks as if I was acting it out to somebody the person walks up like you said not rushing but
00:42:02
with a purpose and then you see a arm go out and extend you know like presenting
00:42:09
the gun to Liz but not taunting her just it's almost a matter of fact pull the gun out bang bang bang bang and then
00:42:22
takes off running and I believe in some of the clips or there's also a lot of still images of the video I could see
00:42:30
where people say well this person is wearing some kind of dress or moomo or night gown and also in one of the the
00:42:38
still images I've seen you go oh they definitely look like they're wearing boots like ug boots or something like
00:42:44
that I've even heard people say go go boots or boots that could be come up past the the knee yeah so there's been
00:42:53
speculation both ways is this person wearing some as simple as a night gown in in some boots or is this individual
00:43:03
wearing some kind of costume like cosplay costume I've watched it a dozen times I'm convinced that the what I'm
00:43:12
seeing is the person went to some effort to disguise their appearance yeah to what degree I can't say with any level
00:43:21
of certainty because there's been for those that don't know this case there's been been quite a bit of debate whether
00:43:29
the suspect seen in the footage is female or male could it be a male dressed up hoping that if seen fleeing
00:43:38
the because here's the thing the gun is loud the killer knows prior to going there I'm going to do this mhm this is
00:43:46
going to be loud I'm in this neighborhood people are likely going to hear this there's a good chance that
00:43:53
somebody looks out their window or sees me fing the scene it's probably a great idea if I don't look like I normally
00:44:02
look well let me point out a couple things about this individual that that I noticed like you said oh this gun is
00:44:09
going to be loud okay so if this was a hired hit or this was planned why wouldn't you try to get some kind of
00:44:16
weapon with a silencer but the weapon that they used this gun was a revolver so there is no shell casings so you go
00:44:25
on one hand it's not smart to have a loud gun in a heavy heavily populated neighborhood cuz that's going to draw
00:44:33
attention but kind of smart to have a revolver where you're not leaving any casings behind and then also four shots
00:44:43
all four shots hit the victim first bullet they believe went through her or hit her neck I believe then ricocheted
00:44:52
and hit the house and then the other two shots were fired into her chest and then
00:44:58
the final shot which they believe ultimately killed her was to the face yeah that was the point Blake shot after
00:45:05
the killer moved in closer having already fired the three shots sticking to the gun here it's believed that the
00:45:13
gun used is a uh 380 revolver and like the captain said no shell casings found at the scene because it is a revolver
00:45:24
it's strange to me this to me feels feels very much like a mission kill mhm and and I'm describing that that term is
00:45:32
loose you say that to some people and they they have an idea exactly what that means that oh you know you we've had
00:45:40
serial killers throughout history that have decided oh I'm going to rid the world of sex workers so they're often
00:45:48
described as mission style Killers or Mission oriented or Mission driven Killers what I mean by Mission here is I
00:45:56
think the killer set out to not just harm Liz barza that day set out to kill her this killer I think was on a mission
00:46:06
I think they are Marching up to that driveway but what's intriguing to me if it is a mission driven killer that I'm
00:46:15
going to I'm going to carry out this Mission no questions asked revolvers are typically six shot I don't I'm a little
00:46:24
confused as to why they didn't just unload the gun yeah and the other thing too watching the video and I I will say this
00:46:34
I feel very good and very confident about saying this it appears to me that the person that fired that gun is
00:46:41
inexperienced with guns this person does not look like they are are familiar with
00:46:47
this specific gun they almost like if you were to point something like like like take your hand and and bend your
00:46:54
elbow a bit and then just point but drive your arm your hand forward at the same time it looks like the Killer is
00:47:01
almost kind of pushing the gun when they're firing it elbows not locked that's perfectly clear and that's that's
00:47:12
gun shoot that's shooting 101 elbows locked well and the Killer is so close to the suspect so I think one can make
00:47:20
the argument well four shots are fired and four hits are made so maybe a little more experience but maybe doesn't have
00:47:28
the strength to operate the gun in a manner that that they would look proficient but so I think you can make
00:47:36
an argument either way I I see all your points as being super valid but I could see somebody making the argument well
00:47:42
they shot her four times and all four of them hit yeah I get what you're saying but keep in mind that's close proximity
00:47:50
and right even an even an inexperienced shooter to to any inexperienced Shooters
00:47:55
out there if you are ever forced to defend yourself and you find yourself with a gun in your hand and you don't
00:48:01
know think you know what you're doing aim at the body right it's the largest part of the person and so if you aim at
00:48:08
the body your your chances increase greatly on hitting your target the other Curious Thing here Captain is the fact
00:48:17
that the killer in the vehicle the truck return the speculation here seems to be
00:48:23
there is a thought maybe it's just as simple as the killer got lost got turned around and had to turn around and and
00:48:32
and find their way out of the neighborhood right again going back to if this was a person on a mission one of
00:48:39
the biggest reasons that a pyromaniac will get caught somebody that sets fires will get caught is because the drive
00:48:49
inside of them some of them just simply do not possess the ability to leave the scene that they they have to stand there
00:48:58
and watch the whole damn structure burn to the ground yeah or maybe there's so many things that you
00:49:05
can speculate maybe the person got lost maybe they only knew one way in one way out I think you could then make an
00:49:13
argument that like you said they didn't they didn't shoot all their bullets so did they just drive by to see if she was
00:49:20
moving did they get the job what I I that's I'm going back to the mission this person was on a mission the mission
00:49:29
was to kill Liz they drove back by to make sure because here's here's what keeps going through my head they went
00:49:36
and made they made an effort they made a decision part of their plan was to make
00:49:43
sure that they didn't do this when Sergio was home part of their plan was to make sure that Liz was dead I think
00:49:51
whoever did this could be identified by one or both of either Liz or Sergio and a large part of their plan was
00:50:01
structured in such a way that Sergio is not going to see me because he could he could potentially identify who I am and
00:50:11
Liz it doesn't matter that she recognizes me because when I leave that driveway when I leave her home right
00:50:18
she'll be dead and she can't tell anybody who did this I like too when we're doing research and and also as
00:50:24
you're telling the story write down questions of what I would want to know as law enforcement and so
00:50:32
one of the questions I have is do we know and I don't think law enforcement has released this information but do we
00:50:39
know if the killer was the only one in the vehicle is the killer the only one in that truck because you could make
00:50:48
some argument hey we're going to meet in this neighborhood you're going to drive
00:50:53
me over I'm going to commit the crime I'm going to get back in the truck we're going to dri drive off I'll drop you off
00:51:00
at your vehicle and then we go our separate ways is there a possibility that there's more than one individual in
00:51:06
that truck and I think because of that neighborhood and because of the amount of cameras I think law enforcement would
00:51:13
know that answer yeah I hope and here's the thing if they do know that answer I would hope that after this amount of
00:51:21
time if they know for certain that there were two people in that vehicle or let's
00:51:25
say even three if there were more than just the killer in that vehicle I would hope that they would release that
00:51:30
information and I not just hope I believe that they would have by now because you and I know this vehicle is
00:51:38
the best clue it's the best tip the best lead that they have probably in this case and they've got to be frustrated as
00:51:47
hell that they've not been able to track down this truck well it's easier to find
00:51:51
a vehicle than it is to find an individual my question though and I haven't had I haven't seen anybody put
00:52:00
this out there on Reddit or any of the forums that I looked up this case and and maybe you will uh pick up what I'm
00:52:10
putting down so the question is what is this individual wearing are they disguising
00:52:17
themselves just in case they're seen by Sergio or I guess in case Liz makes it out alive is is this a wig is this a
00:52:30
bathrobe night gown what kind of boots are these is it a costume like you said does it have
00:52:38
something to do with their Star Wars charity and community service does it have anything to do with that but here's
00:52:47
what I also wondered is that is it possible that this individual is wearing some kind of hospital gown
00:52:57
because we know that Liz did a lot of charity work and volunteer work at the hospital I I think it's too difficult to
00:53:05
say with any great yeah I think it's too grainy to to say because some people even said that they're seeing a bathrobe
00:53:13
right I haven't seen that put out there is it possible because also what you know if somebody was let's say
00:53:20
undergoing cancer treatment and and they uh were going through cheemo and they lost their hair that they maybe would
00:53:28
wear a wig is the wig a part of a costume or dis disguise or is it part of what the person was wearing daily at the
00:53:37
time yeah what I think I'm seeing is I can't say if I'm seeing a wig or not or if the person just simply has long hair
00:53:44
but what what I believe I'm seeing is somebody wearing high heeled boots that would be typical of a a lady a female
00:53:53
wearing that that come up either just to the knee or or maybe even past the knee
00:53:59
and that they are also wearing some kind of to me it looks like whatever the long
00:54:07
garment that they are wearing whether you want to call it a robe or a moomo or whatever to me I would go more that it's
00:54:14
not a robe but more that style because it looks to me like it it's open in the front and we do know that the killer
00:54:22
pulls the gun from somewhere the gun was concealed prior to and that's the thing had this killer
00:54:30
been so aggressive that they look one thing that didn't happen they didn't park the truck right at the end of the
00:54:35
driveway and block in the driveway and then come running out of the truck with a gun in
00:54:42
hand because look unfortunately I wish it would have went down that way because I
00:54:48
think that there's a good chance that Liz would have made it back into her home run into the garage and into that
00:54:55
door had a chance to lock it behind her so that gun was concealed somewhere and for the purpose of just being quick and
00:55:06
really getting the jump on her because if this person if Liz knew this person in any form or fashion right
00:55:14
like somebody close to her or somebody on on the fringes of something that they have some ties to I think
00:55:23
that she would recognize this person I don't think there's clearly not good blood here there's bad
00:55:30
blood right unless it's a hired individual unless this is a hired hit right if this is somebody wearing a
00:55:39
disguise or otherwise they need to have the ability to pull the gun with some level of
00:55:47
quickness the other thing though too to Circle back to one thing that you were saying about the U car the vehicle is
00:55:55
there a chance of there was another person in the vehicle personally I don't think so but I will say this I'm a big
00:56:03
believer in some cases of intuition especially in some of these homicide cases that we've covered and one thing
00:56:12
that I thought was rather strange was the words of some of the people closest to the victim so Liz's
00:56:23
father said quote the people that did this he's talking about so one one of the interviews he did he does toss out a
00:56:32
theory and he says look I think that somebody hired this person that we see in the video to kill my
00:56:38
daughter and that is certainly a possibility but I couldn't get over the fact that he says the people that did
00:56:46
this meaning two or more people and then later Sergio says quote it's so cruel and evil what they did to Liz she didn't
00:56:55
deserve any of this I to hear they and the people it feels like some form of intuition now I
00:57:04
don't know that there were two people directly red-handed involved in the murder the homicide of Liz
00:57:11
barazza but what I think that the husband and father and probably other people close to this case as well might
00:57:20
be spot on with their intuition I think that this killer that somebody knows and is close to the person that did this
00:57:28
and knows that this person did this so it would be appropriate to say what they did and also the people that did this
00:57:38
because somebody has had this knowledge of this person having committed this horrible homicide in in in the early
00:57:49
morning hours in January of 2019 they've had that information since well unless again if you're law
00:57:57
enforcement you have to go from the inside out so of course they have to question Sergio because now does it look
00:58:06
does this individual look like Sergio dressed up in some kind of MooMoo or dress I don't think so and I think we
00:58:15
have because of their surveillance footage I guess one of my questions for law enforcement would be okay well if we
00:58:23
have this vehicle and we can track this vehicle vehicle through the neighborhood
00:58:27
did you track Sergio's van as well and like you said before he was eventually he makes it to this work site but he was
00:58:35
running late well how late was he would he even have the time to commit the crime do we have any so we have to dive
00:58:46
into Sergio again a lot of these crimes when you have a husband or wife that kills the other individual their other
00:58:54
partner there's some kind of financial difficulties or there's some kind of affair going on we have no evidence of
00:59:02
an affair we have no evidence that they had money problems it's also weird to me
00:59:08
that a lot of these crimes take place a couple days before they're supposed to go on
00:59:13
vacation but I believe he also had a small life insurance policy on his wife which is not abnormal but I believe he
00:59:21
hasn't even cashed it because he doesn't want people to to bring that up as a point to speculate that he he's involved
00:59:31
somehow but it's but it's also strange to me to hear lizz's father say look I believe this is a hired job well the
00:59:41
first person you would suspect would hire a hit would be that person's spouse yes and I don't I wouldn't say that I
00:59:50
believe that lizz's father is floating that out there to point the finger at Sergio no no I don't believe so here's
01:00:00
here's the problem with it being a hired hit okay and you're exactly right I wanted to know what was the financials
01:00:07
of the the victims here of the barazas Liz and Sergio well every report that we're told is that their financials were
01:00:16
fine they weren't in any kind of financial trouble and Serio has been upfront and said look I understand that
01:00:24
a lot of people think that I did this that you know that's just the way these things work that a lot of people will
01:00:30
believe that the husband is guilty and he did say regarding the insurance money that he didn't take it
01:00:40
because he was worried that that would Point even bigger finger at him but if I were to have the chance the
01:00:48
opportunity to counil Sergio from my understanding Captain it wasn't a policy that he had on his wife for the for my
01:00:57
understanding it was just a um sometimes at work with your health insurance and your benefits for work you
01:01:05
will have a life insurance policy that's just built in from my understanding Sergio was saying he didn't he wasn't
01:01:12
even aware that there was an insurance policy a death benefit uh for his wife Liz and that
01:01:20
when he was made aware of it he chose not to accept the insurance money now I don't know how long every every policy
01:01:28
is different but I don't know how long he has to decide whether to receive that or
01:01:36
not but I would recommend to him if he still has the opportunity to collect that insurance money I think I would
01:01:46
collect it and I would add it to the reward money the thing here is Captain we do know that they upped the reward
01:01:53
money that was up to $50,000 January 25th 20 22 but again I think the problem with it
01:02:05
being a hit is you have this truck that is probably the best clue in the case right so we have this dark or black
01:02:15
Nissan truck driven by Liz's killer police described it as follows it's a Nissan Frontier Pro 4X Edition crew cab
01:02:25
model year 2013 to 2019 with a pro 4X sticker on the rear of the truck that's pretty detailed
01:02:36
pretty detailed and the problem with it being a hit is now all you have to do is
01:02:40
find some transfer of money and what I mean is as far as it being a hit with Sergio being
01:02:48
responsible or hiring it out is now you're going you would be able to find some transfer of money
01:02:57
or transfers of money and connect it to somebody that has access to a truck that
01:03:02
looks like this now you've just received your paper trail leading you to a very good suspect and the husband looks
01:03:11
rather guilty too yeah I don't think law enforcement has cleared the husband but
01:03:16
he's been very cooperative and I believe they did a polygraph test and he passed
01:03:21
the polygraph he's passed the polygraph and so has his he's remarried his wife Amber that
01:03:30
was something that of course people online started to freak out about oh well he of course he he had his wife
01:03:35
killed or he killed her so that he could move on to this other relationship well
01:03:41
again there would be some paper trail for that for police and we have seen plenty of times in plenty of
01:03:49
Investigations that even when a situation where a husband wasn't the killer if they were doing any thing that
01:03:56
wasn't on the up and up police have a very difficult time moving off of them because they found other Mis dealings
01:04:03
within the marriage and I didn't just think about when wondering about their financials
01:04:09
and then thinking about possible Affairs you can't stop short of thinking of the
01:04:15
other side of the fence the affair doesn't have to be Sergio out running around on his wife and then once her
01:04:22
dead there's equal chance and I I hate to say this that maybe Liz had something going on because that's actually where
01:04:31
my first thought went after reviewing the case and looking at the video I thought is this some guy's girlfriend or
01:04:41
some guy's wife yeah and but again if she is running around on Sergio there would be a paper trail there would be
01:04:50
something in her computer history and her cell phone history that should be tipping police
01:04:57
off May pointing them in the right direction now well and we should make the statement that law enforcement
01:05:04
hasn't released everything we don't know what they're holding back exactly and they could be holding
01:05:11
back a lot and I'm guessing that they were having a lot of uh conversation and and sharing some
01:05:19
information with lizz's father because one of the interviews that I heard him on
01:05:26
they ask is this case going to be solved he doesn't hesitate he goes oh it's going to get
01:05:32
solved so I it maybe it's just one of those things where it's it's just a matter of time yeah I think the gun
01:05:40
information is a good clue and again I think the truck information is a really good clue and I think the father's right
01:05:48
to say that he thinks it's only a matter of time because police have said openly this is
01:05:54
not a Cold Case we still receive tips we still receive phone calls about this case and Crim Stoppers in Houston has
01:06:03
been a big part of helping to get more tips and get more information on this case for law enforcement and we do know
01:06:14
that and I don't want to stick on this detail too long because I don't think that there's
01:06:22
any I don't think there's a lot of weight here Captain but we do know that when Sergio was asked by police this is
01:06:30
keep in mind this is the day of the killing is there anybody that that Liz didn't get along with or would have had
01:06:38
an argument with recently or I don't know the details of the question but it was something of that nature which did
01:06:45
lead to Sergio providing a name of a female to police well that IND from my understanding that person has been
01:06:53
questioned and been vetted now now to what degree do they believe that that this person is could be responsible or
01:07:01
involved that we don't know this person's name was publicly leaked at some point by um you know one of these
01:07:09
terrible podcaster people and we we're we're not releasing that name here today and I'm happy that it's
01:07:19
rather difficult to find because I be terrible podcasters next week well I have heard her parents say
01:07:29
that he he sergy was simply providing an answer to a question from the police this person probably has no involvement
01:07:37
at all into for their name to come out is just to smear them and and be really horrible for this person who isn't
01:07:45
considered a a suspect by police well if you allow me I just a couple things that
01:07:51
are floating around in my head and I I don't know if we have the actual answer to them but there was also a stray
01:07:58
bullet I don't know if you want to call it a stray bullet but there was a a bullet shot into lizz's work which she
01:08:06
was not at because she had the day off but there was a bullet that was fired into the office of the building that she
01:08:14
normally works at uh so does that have anything to do with the murder so if I'm law enforcement I'm also thinking does
01:08:21
this trip have anything to do with the murder I also want to check the GPS of the husband on the on his phone or car
01:08:30
and I I believe we talked about the cameras if we're monitoring the actions in the vehicle of the murderer did we
01:08:38
monitor the actions of the husband um how many times did Sergio try to reach out to his wife after being
01:08:46
notified by the alarm and then one or two people inside the truck I think we both agree if we had to place a like you
01:08:57
say a Franklin on it I think we both would bet that this individual was a female and then my call to action for
01:09:07
law enforcement would be okay you you have released some video and some audio is there any more that you could release
01:09:16
that would help anything out but I do know as of January 2024 Texas Rangers and the FBI are now
01:09:24
on the case and with all this video footage you would think that they would be able to get some kind of license
01:09:32
plate yeah we do know that Texas Rangers the FBI and the Texas anti- gang unit joined the barza homicide
01:09:42
investigation and as said tips continue to come in over the years at some point we do know that detectives went to Miami
01:09:50
Florida to interview a person of interest a person that was described as a person of
01:09:57
Interest I think that the person responsible had a had a very personal grievance with
01:10:06
Liz I think they purpose the the problem with Sergio I get what you're saying about wanting to know the GPS of
01:10:13
Sergio's phone or or the white panel van that he was in but the way that the timeline plays out to suggest that he's
01:10:22
the shooter seems almost impossible like he may if he had a role in this if he had a hand in this it was it was getting
01:10:31
somebody else to do it for him I just don't see a way I don't I just don't see it to be
01:10:38
possible that he could be leaving and then coming and going at the same time basically yeah I agree and then he'd
01:10:46
have to he'd have to have enough time to to to conceal the van where it's not spotted mhm in the neighborhood right
01:10:53
and and I'm guessing that they probably have if they got footage of this truck driving around and arriving at Sergio
01:11:00
and Liz's house to do the shooting they got footage of his van leaving so he would have to leave then get into a this
01:11:09
truck and put on a disguise and then approach yeah it just I just don't see it's it's not possible it just doesn't
01:11:19
seem to be possible because we're talking seconds not minutes well and one of your favorite things in case is his
01:11:25
notes and there is some speculation that maybe that this killer before killing Liz that they were handing Liz a
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note or handed something to Liz and so again I think there's some hold back information from law enforcement I'm
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going to do my best to try to find the different angles and different clips and and steal images and compile them all
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so join us there as well again the vehicle is described as a Nissan Frontier Pro 4X Edition crew cab dark
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color some Reports say black model would be year 2013 to 2019 with a pro 4X sticker on the rear of the truck
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and details of the shooter are not exact due to the poor quality of the video footage and it's not even clear if the
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shooter is a man or a woman in the video footage they appear to be wearing a long
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robe or some type of long gown or coat or maybe even a dress again some people have
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described boots seeing boots some say thigh high white go go style boots right and the person appears to have long hair
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or they are possibly wearing a wig there is currently a reward of up to $50,000 for information in this case if
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you have any details about the murder of Elizabeth barza please call 713 222 tips and share what you know you can
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