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[Music] it was May 19 2016. Jenny gebo Was preparing to leave for work it is about 7 45 a.m to her
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surprise her 19 year old grandson Logan schindleman who lived with her and her husband bill came into the kitchen from
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the garage Logan had been out all night which was not a big surprise he is 19 years old
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Logan says he was out all night just driving around Jenny thought he seemed nervous and
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anxious about something he seemed to want to talk but yet was hesitant something seemed to be
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bothering him finally he said to her that he recently had an epiphany and he used that
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uncommon word epiphany the literary definition of epiphany a Visionary moment when someone has a
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sudden Insight or realization that changes one's understanding of themselves or their comprehension of the
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world but Jenny was already running late I told Logan that the two would sit together and talk that evening when she
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got home from work and so Jenny left the house whatever the young man had to say or get
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off of his chest is a mystery we will do our best to try to track Logan's possible movements and actions
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since because there would be no such conversation between Jenny and Logan after Jenny returned home from work that
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evening in fact it has now been almost five long years since her grandson told her he had
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an epiphany and Jenny has not spoken to nor seen Logan since this is true crime garage
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[Music] Logan Drew schindelman was born on June 27 1996 to Mom Hannah and a father that
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he never knew his mom Hannah is mixed race and her mother is Jenny who is a white woman who dated a black man who is
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Hannah's father but Hannah did not have much if any of a relationship with her father Hannah grew up with her mom Jenny
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in Tumwater Washington about 60 miles south of Seattle and just north of Olympia Hannah herself turned out to be
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a young single mom to a daughter named Chloe when Chloe was still very young Hannah met a young engineer visiting the
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country from Saudi Arabia Hannah got pregnant but the man had to return to his homeland so he never met his son his
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son would turn out to be Logan it's not even certain that this man even knows that he has a son in the U.S Logan
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grew up with his older sister Chloe mom Hannah and Grandma Jenny and stepfather bill
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who they all lived with he had no Father Figure in his life except for bill and his great uncle Mike
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Ware who is married to Logan's Aunt Mary this is Jenny's sister Mary and Mike live not too far from the Jibo household
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eventually at the age of 23 Hannah decided to leave her kids with her mother and move to Olympia to start Art
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School so the grandmother Jenny obtained legal guardianship of the kids so they could
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be on her health insurance Hannah does not speak publicly about this case but she seems to have had a good
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relationship with her son Logan who would visit her frequently and spend the night at her place
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Logan played football at Tumwater High and he was very popular funny and well liked
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he played defensive back on the team which was state champs for two of Logan's four years in high school things
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were good for Logan he was a good looking kid very athletic very attractive young man and he was a
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pretty decent student as well this despite not really putting forth much effort into his schoolwork this is
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according to his grandmother he also liked to write poetry and was really into music
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by all accounts he was a normal teenager after graduation in 2014 Logan intended
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to go to college at Eastern Washington and to room there with one of his good buddies from high school but the summer
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after his senior year Logan started to change his friends say that he was going through something but they didn't really
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know what exactly it was now there is one noted incident that might clue Us in on what those changes
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were in his life this is when Logan was at a party where he had some kind of interaction with a
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girl that he knew a girl that he went to school with and he knew her fairly well
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this girl made some racist comments specifically about Logan at the party now many people claim that the Tumwater
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area is an integrated town and Logan didn't stand out because he was black but others say that the area is
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overwhelmingly white and that it would have been difficult for Logan to fit in at times yeah extra difficult coming
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from people that you thought were your friends well reportedly this incident at the party seems to be the beginning of
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Logan withdrawing from his group of friends whom he must have felt did not have his back they weren't there to
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defend him they weren't there for him this is one of those life moments that I always call hey you find out sometimes
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who your real friends are if these guys and girls truly were his friends they would have stood up for him in this
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moment so he stopped responding to friends messages even though they could tell from Facebook that he had read
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these messages he abruptly canceled his plans to go to the college he had committed to
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instead he switched to Washington State University this is a much larger and more diverse school but this is
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somewhere that he would know no one going into his freshman year Jenny his grandmother believes that he
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was going through some sort of identity crisis and possibly wanted to reinvent himself
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reportedly he had just recently learned the truth about who his father was a Saudi national
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the timing on this and how much of a surprise it was is not clear and Logan had recently spent some time connecting
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with his grandfather's side of the family this is the African-American side of Logan's family who later claimed that
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Jenny tried to keep Logan from this part of his Heritage we don't really know whether this is true there's a little
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bit of drama here that's obvious a Logan's African-American relative say Jenny was keeping Logan from them and
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that Logan told them Jenny would be angry if she knew he had been in contact with them but Jenny said that that side
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of the family had never exhibited any interest in Logan and that their interaction with him often quickly
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fizzled out she said she was happy for Logan to interact with all of his relatives and that all of his questions
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about his father had been answered at that time at the time of his disappearance but his great aunt Tina
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said that Logan started posting some stuff relating to Malcolm X and other racially aware items on his social media
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all in all it sounds like Logan was struggling a bit to figure out who he was and where he belonged both in the
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family and in the world Logan went off to WSU in the fall he made some friends he didn't have a lot
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of trouble fitting in there we know he dated at least one girl but they broke up
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Logan was not diligent about his schoolwork and when he came home for the summer after his freshman year he was
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not permitted to enroll for the following year because of poor grades so Logan lived at home with his grandma and
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her husband Jenny says that Logan had a few jobs including working at a commercial
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laundry service he also spent quite a bit of time helping his great uncle remember this is Mike Ware on Mike's
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Farm Mike Ware was a retired Thurston County Sheriff's Lieutenant who served for 37 years at this point of our
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timeline Mike Ware was retired for about two years Mike is very fond of Logan and says
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Logan was a hard worker who deserved the twenty dollars an hour that Mike paid him
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Jenny says that during this time Logan seemed isolated and a little depressed spending a lot of time in his room
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listening to music or watching movies and he started smoking a lot of pot she says it was at this point that it was
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making him a little paranoid Logan seemed to mostly keep to himself he had a talking and texting
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relationship with a girl an organ the two met on a dating app but the two never actually met in person well this
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transition from high school to college is difficult on anybody but it seems like there was extra pressure extra
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weight on Logan's shoulders this gives us a good amount of background information regarding Logan and his
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family and it brings us up to the time when he is going to go missing so this is on Thursday May 19th
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Jenny his grandmother left for work this is after that very brief Epiphany conversation
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Logan was at home when Jenny left everything was fine when she left for work but when she returned from work
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Logan's car was gone and going into the home she notices he's not there as well he didn't come home
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that night and on Friday Jenny became concerned enough to track his phone she says this was around 11 A.M per a post
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on the family's Facebook page quote the ATT locator services GPS indicated the phone Logan's phone was on Boulevard
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Road in Olympia approximately within an eight block radius of Steel Street where
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Logan's mother lives end quote so Jenny sees this right Captain she's wondering where her grandson is yeah it wasn't
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terribly unusual for him not to come home but again as the morning continues on she starts to worry tracks the phone
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the old Family Locator friends locator app that's on most phones sees that his phone is in the general
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area of where Logan's mother lives it wasn't uncommon for him to go visit his mother it wasn't uncommon for him to
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stay the night there once in a while it doesn't sound like they had an everyday relationship though right you
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know it wasn't we'll get we'll continue to get into the family a little bit as we go through the
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case but I just want to point out here it seems to be this is not a close family I couldn't spot any obvious
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problems within the family but it doesn't seem to be a very close family well and Logan
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drove a black Sebring anybody that's a fan of the office would know Michael Scott drove a Sebring so it's like a
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convertible by the looks of the picture it doesn't look to be in the greatest condition but not the worst condition
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yeah it was a 96 Chrysler Sebring so it would have been about 10 years old at the time that Logan went missing pretty
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standard for a college student when Jenny sees that Logan's phone is over near his mom's house in Olympia she says
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okay this was pretty normal stuff so she stops worrying at this time but Logan didn't come home that night either
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and when Jenny checked in with her daughter Hannah Logan's mom she said Logan never came over to the house
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she hadn't seen him in a week so now this is concerning Jenny got in her car and drove around Tumwater looking for
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Logan's 96 black Chrysler Sebring convertible she does not find the vehicle she decided to report him
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missing so Jenny drove over to the Thurston County Sheriff's Office to her surprise and frankly to my
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surprise as well right pardon me I'm just some dumb guy in a garage in central super dub I've never been to Washington
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always wanted to go to Washington State so I'm not very familiar with this area Captain but she says to her surprise the
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county sheriff's office was closed on the day that she went to report her grandson missing I didn't know that
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Department's closed yeah 2016 I feel like crime is high enough yeah everywhere that they just stay open
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unfortunately we don't have enough to do well they're closed no staff was on site
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on this Saturday the only way to get in touch with them would be to make a 9-1-1
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call Jenny decides for whatever reason not to do this right she decided just to wait until Monday
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to report her grandson missing well it's tough too because you know he's going through some stuff and he's an adult so
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there's probably been many times where he's been out partying with friends or just staying at the night at a friend's
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house and maybe he didn't let them know so it's not that unusual that a 19 year old would be not seen from his parental
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figures for a couple days well and he was away at school for a whole school year right so she's used to
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him not being there and he's used to taking care of himself as you said he's an adult and a very capable one at that
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now by the actual time and date that Jenny reports Logan missing this is Monday May 23rd Logan had not been seen
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nor heard from in four days yeah when Jenny reported Logan missing the detective in her opinion was dismissive
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the detective took down the information that Logan was missing in action and that he was last seen wearing a black
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windbreaker a pair of jeans a white shirt and a pair of Nike shoes at this point you're
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calling 9-1-1 you're calling hospitals you're now talking to the police department they're not going to seem as
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concerned because again this is this is a a man yes he's 19 years old but he's a
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man he's six foot tall he's not an individuals that's typically preyed upon it's not like a 19 year old female so I
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could see why they're a little dismissive okay you haven't seen your college age son but I could see why
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they're a little dismissive of it yeah and that is what's going on here um he's an adult as you pointed out and
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the detective is going to remind Jenny hey he could go missing if he wants to he does not need to be accounted for or
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answer to anyone because he's an adult but Jenny says that she kind of felt ignored in the whole situation
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one thing that the detective did before Jenny left was she asked for the license
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plate and the vehicle identification number for Logan's vehicle right Jenny gave this information to the detective
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and the car was registered to Jenny and Bill gebo Jenny got a call that afternoon the same afternoon that she
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reported Logan to be missing when the detective ran the plates of the missing vehicle
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she discovered that the car was towed by the state patrol on Friday May 20th Logan's car was sitting in the tow yard
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for several days the captain and I have pointed this out a hundred times long time listeners will know this we always
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point out that vehicles seem to be much easier to locate than actual people so great thing great thinking by the
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detective there who says give me the vehicle information because not only is this young man missing his vehicle is
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missing as well this is going to be our first major breadcrumb and to try to finding out the whereabouts of this
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young man so it seems like his car was parked on the side of a highway or a road and then I was towed by the county
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to their tow yard this looks like yeah an abandoned vehicle situation per law enforcement where they're going to see
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what appears to be an abandoned vehicle and they're going to tow it off and it's
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going to sit there until the owner comes to claim it now Jenny is horrified to hear about Logan's vehicle
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it's abandoned on the inside shoulder of Interstate 5. southbound at mile post 92. lodged against the concrete barrier
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in the center median well yeah we have a missing kid but now we find his car maybe if it's on the side of the road
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but the fact that it's in the middle that causes a lot more concern for me so for those that know the area the reports
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I have Captain say that the vehicle was just a little way south of the Maytown rest area which would be about 10 miles
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south of Tumwater where he lives with his grandmother yeah but again 10 miles look if it was abandoned like maybe a
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mile or two miles away you'd go okay well something happened maybe his car broke down and he would have walked to
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us but being 10 miles away it's you know it's pretty fishy now do these reports state if there was anything wrong with
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the car because normally they just tow it they don't like check the engine or check to see if there's gas or anything
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so two of the biggest mysteries that I could not answer when diving into this case two of the biggest mysteries for
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myself because I think what we're going to see and I I know for myself anyway that a lot of my big questions
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are sparked by this vehicle by the abandonment of this vehicle or was there Foul Play and somebody else
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moved the vehicle so I could not figure out I could not find somebody email us or rather more importantly put it on the
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blog so everybody can read it but was the vehicle locked when it was located it doesn't sound like it was because it
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almost sounds like in some reports that possibly even one of the doors was open right the other thing I couldn't figure
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out was like you question was the vehicle an operating order was it was it able to run right because
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most the time people abandon a vehicle on the freeway out of necessity not out of choice nobody wants to tire out of
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gas yeah nobody wants to get out and have to Trek along the freeway or call for help on the freeway you get off to
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the side and that's the other weird thing captain and you pointed this out as well it's the center median it's not
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like dangerous right if you could choose to get off of the freeway you would go off to the right hand side and and try
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to get yourself out of Harm's Way you got Vehicles passing by at 60 70 75 000 mile out 75 000 miles 75 000 miles 75
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000 miles an hour the warp speed that's because you're a super dum-dum I was watching a lot of sci-fi okay
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so the vehicle was found at 2 pm we think and I want to be clear about that this
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is based off of information that Jenny revealed later about Logan's phone and when calls came in regarding the
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abandoned vehicle so the closest time stamp I could find of when the vehicle was located and determined to be
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abandoned by the Sheriff's Department was at 2 pm well and look into this case I ended up talking to a highway patrol
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officer and he was saying yeah maybe you could determine the time frame based on
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calls in but normally what happens when there's abandoned car is Highway Patrol or sheriff or or whoever's in that area
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or in charge of that area will go by maybe make a couple marks on the window maybe even write down a time because
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they want to give the person an opportunity to take care of the vehicle themselves they usually tag it yeah they
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normally don't tow it right away so 2 p.m I don't know if that's a number that we can really rely on so here's what I'm
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gonna go with but mind you this is the same guy that just said Vehicles traveling at 75 000 miles per hour
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that's a fast car um that's a fast my my general thoughts here on the time of when the vehicle
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would be towed I think the calls are are coming in at two so then you have to back that up a little bit before an
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officer can actually respond to the area to find the vehicle and like you said most the time they're
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going to tag it and leave it come back and if it's still there eventually tow it away
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I think because it's at the center median it's a problem for for traffic purposes and they probably towed it much
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quicker than they traditionally would again though this is you got to be fearful here look I know when a 19 year
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old girl goes missing we talk about or or crime shows we'll talk about oh well she's a pretty girl or whatever but here
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we have this individual Logan he's a good looking kid he's a he's a smart kid he's a hard worker
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this just doesn't make a lot of sense that one you find his vehicle and he has no
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contact with friends or family for multiple days we do know that calls were coming in about the vehicle at 2PM the
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car was towed by Baker Towing and it was towed to their lot at the request of Washington State Patrol Sergeant Shades
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the sergeant said that he found the car and then drove around the area to check for anyone on foot who may be the owner
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of the abandoned vehicle but he did not see anyone [Music] thank you [Music] all right we're back cheers
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fill the animals cheers to you Colonel cheers to you Captain cheers to the clean animals and cheers to the cars
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driving 75 000 miles per hour that's warp speed the police when they find the vehicle
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they didn't search the car and this makes total sense because they did not suspect that it was connected to any
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type of crime when they located it on the freeway their concern is get it off of Interstate 5. right but they're going
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to go up to the car and if there's no blood and there's no it seems like there's no wreckage they're not going to
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search the vehicle yeah and there's nothing obvious in plain sight there's not yeah it's not like that yeah and
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there's like 75 000 pounds of cocaine all right that number is going to be stuck in our heads for a long time it's
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your fault when the grandmother when Logan's grandmother retrieves the vehicle after it was towed back to her
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home she found that it contained Logan's cell phone car keys water bottle and snacks
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and a large paper grocery bag some Reports say that there were two large paper grocery bags
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this bag was either sitting on the passenger seat or on the center console depending on which news article you read
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Logan's wallet containing most Reports say 25 some say 24 in cash and his wallet also contained his debit
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card and driver's license the wallet was found in the glove compartment there were other small amounts of cash
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small bills and change in various spots of the interior of the vehicle like one would expect to find in most people's
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vehicles the car's registration was in the glove box as well but we point out these items
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the cell phones particularly important the car keys particularly important wait hold on I got a question so the cell
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phone car keys where they found and the glove box as well I don't know and here's why the cell
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phone and the keys this is why I brought up this question right because if you're
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the person Towing the car and on the passenger seat you see wallet car keys cell phone blah blah blah right I'm
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towing the car I know it's going to sit at the lot maybe lock maybe unlocked but
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just as a safety measure I'm going to open up that glove box or a center console or something and put these loose
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items these important items into the glove box so I bring up this point because I don't necessarily think that
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means that Logan or somebody else put his wallet in the glove box it could have been done by a police officer or
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the towing agent or whoever dumped the vehicle there if it wasn't Logan that left it on
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on the center median at I5 yeah we point out all these items because it's important information to the case but
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it's also it can also help lead you to several conclusions the cash if it wasn't Logan that dumped
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the vehicle if it was a robbery why not take the case they would have taken the cash a dumb robber would have
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taken the debit card as well and the cell phone unless the wallet was in the glove box and they didn't know it just
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didn't find it for whatever reason regardless this is a bad bad situation Logan's gone and his car with all of his
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important personal possessions in it were found abandoned in the middle of a major interstate
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and Jenny his grandmother knew that Logan loved and took a lot of pride in his vehicle so she could not imagine him
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abandoning it especially in that particular way yeah his pride for his Sebring was just like Michael Scott's
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Pride for his Sebring there are some added factors in here too Captain it looks like from reports that I found that
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Logan is highly allergic to peanuts and he did not have his EpiPen with him when he
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went missing the reports are unclear though I couldn't figure out was the EpiPen found
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in his vehicle or was it something that was left at behind at home right now after the family informed the sheriff's
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department of what was found in the vehicle a detective from the Thurston County Sheriff's Office was assigned to
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the case and started to investigate he came out to Jenny's house searched the car dusted for Prince and took
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photographs of the vehicle and the items that were found inside if anything other
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than what we have reported was found or any prints Fingerprints of Interest were
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lifted we know nothing about this there's no reports at this time about that and I I just want to applaud Jenny
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for a second right raising Logan and anytime that there's a missing person somebody has to step up to the
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plate not law enforcement somebody in the family a friend somebody has to be the
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general the captain the colonel that says hey we have a missing loved one we give a [ __ ] about them and we're gonna
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push that on to law enforcement we're going to push that onto the community we should keep in mind though that this
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search of the vehicle per the family their opinion is that this was a general incursory search of the
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vehicle that it was never really forensically processed I mean we said that there were
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prints they looked for fingerprints but there was never like they didn't put any
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they didn't apply luminol or comparable chemicals to try to detect blood or anything of that nature my guess is that
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there's no obvious sign of a struggle inside the vehicle or outside of the vehicle it wasn't there was nobody
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coming forward saying hey I I looked at the car myself or I smelled any kind of Decay coming from the vehicle
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so right and we do have some eyewitnesses regarding the vehicle because we know that that 9-1-1 was
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called a couple of times regarding the the abandoned vehicle but there was no one saying that hey I saw
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you know guys fighting on the side of the road right investigators did take when they came out and looked at the
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vehicle they were smart enough to take Logan's computer and his cell phone and they did search his room while they were
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there we have read that a thorough forensic examination of Logan's phone was done but this did not seem to lead
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investigators to Logan or his whereabouts I think that's very key here I don't know I don't know exactly what to make
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of that but I know that this was done and it was done very thoroughly and if there was a
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significant lead on that phone I don't know that we're sitting here today Captain talking about a young man
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that's still missing both question real quick is it possible that there is a lead on the phone that the police are
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just not telling us about it could be but there has been some things that took place in this case since he's gone
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missing that would tell me that they're at a point where they've run out of leads or run out of ideas
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and so I think if maybe that phone pointed them in any direction at all early on in the investigation that lead
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or those leads have dried up or they they were just simply dead ends so it seems to me and I it could be wrong but
00:36:07
it seems to me that the idea is that we find this car we find the cell phone we find the keys we find the wallet we do
00:36:15
not find Logan so it's when they find the car this is roughly giving us a a decent point of when he possibly went
00:36:24
missing right but here's where things get tricky because remember this is per the phone this is still
00:36:32
phone information this is from the family's fake Facebook page and from the Charlie project page
00:36:38
for Logan both say that Jenny ran a family locator on Logan's phone on Friday May 20th and
00:36:48
it showed that he was in the Olympia area near his mother's house Jenny said that this was done around 11
00:36:56
A.M his car was found roughly three hours later by our calculations sometime around 2 p.m right but in an interview
00:37:05
on ID disappeared the current lead detective on the case Frank Foley says that they checked the cell phone
00:37:14
records for the phone and on Thursday night the phone traveled Southbound on I-5 down to Southern Washington to the
00:37:23
Camus area and it spent the phone spent about 45 minutes there then went North to
00:37:30
Tumwater at three then at 3 45 a.m the the phone stopped moving by May 20th early morning all phone
00:37:40
activity ended he said he said that he believes the phone died again this would be May 20th early
00:37:48
morning right the problem with that is I I don't I do not know the science behind it to
00:37:55
question Jenny's statements about running the locator at 11 A.M all right can the phone be dead and
00:38:02
still located still tracked GPS right at the same time again that I think that's going to vary based on
00:38:10
model how old the phone was what kind of tracking service they used right so I can't say if this information
00:38:18
regarding the phone what Jenny's saying what the police are saying if there's inconsistencies in this information
00:38:25
again too we we've had several cases where the pig technology is not a hundred percent yeah and I what I really
00:38:34
want to know regarding the phone is there any indication on that phone be it text phone calls or what have you
00:38:42
to indicate that Logan was meeting someone communicating with anyone we have a lot of time that seems to go
00:38:51
by between when Jenny last sees Logan and when the vehicle is found we have over 24 hours between the two
00:39:03
it's roughly 30 hours if you really want to break it down and then we have the further question of
00:39:12
what time did Logan actually go missing what time did he leave the home we know that Jenny left the home she said that
00:39:18
he was there when I left the home I have seen some reports that say that he was he was going off to work as well
00:39:25
that day however we don't have any reports of saying he never arrived at work so was he supposed to just stay at home
00:39:34
and he just he decided to leave the house at some point there's a real lack in information here in this case and I
00:39:41
don't think it's because of a traditional situation where investigators are holding this
00:39:46
information back I think that this is information that people just don't know well like you said at some point
00:39:53
he's well maybe not Logan but maybe his phone that's all we can say we can't say well
00:40:01
we know where Logan was because we know where the phone was right because we have no proof that Logan was with his
00:40:07
phone but if he was with his phone at some point he's in an area for 45 minutes almost seems like he's meeting
00:40:13
up with somebody or having lunch with somebody or or running an errand but we have no evidence to tell us what that
00:40:22
was so my thoughts before we move on my general thought I think anybody gives a [ __ ] about your thoughts today super
00:40:31
dumb dumb head regarding the movement of of the phone yes I was just joking because I have to believe I think common
00:40:39
sense is going to tell us that the phone the movement of the phone and the vehicle are probably in sync
00:40:48
we know that later the phone is found inside the vehicle yeah where I see this phone moving it's it's
00:40:55
almost like it it's heading One Direction then turns around heads back to where it came from and then turns
00:41:02
back around one more time and heads back to where it just came from these are kind of erratic strange
00:41:10
movements to me it's either it tells me a couple of things either it wasn't Logan doing a lot of
00:41:18
that movement or he's in a state of mind that that is as erratic as the the movement itself
00:41:27
right you know it's almost it would make sense if we have someone to fill in the blanks
00:41:32
as simple as someone saying he left oh but he had to come back about 45 minutes later because he forgot
00:41:40
something or I forgot to give him something right that's that's the type of movement that I see here but we don't
00:41:46
have anybody to to fill in those blanks for us to make sense of these movements but there are some eyewitnesses that
00:41:53
claim that they saw his car yes yes and this has been something that's been a little tricky because everything
00:42:01
in this case seems tricky some Reports say that there are two eyewitnesses some say that there are three some say as
00:42:08
many as four I think what we have here Captain is we probably have three or four eyewitnesses
00:42:17
it's just how much do law enforcement believe each one of these witnesses to be credible right so let's go through the
00:42:26
eyewitness accounts on Wednesday after Logan had been gone for six days Jenny contacted her sister and brother-in-law
00:42:35
Mike and Mary where to tell them that Logan was missing Mike who had contacts from his days in working with the
00:42:43
Sheriff's Office spoke with the detective assigned to the case he had very little information but had
00:42:50
discovered something important a truck driver a semi truck driver called 9-1-1 after seeing something on I-5 on the
00:42:59
previous Friday a black Sebring convertible was driving erratically swerving and driving too
00:43:06
slow according to the truck driver no one appeared to be behind the wheel while the vehicle was moving the car was
00:43:14
in the slow lane the far right lane and then pulled in onto the shoulder and stopped
00:43:22
the driver's side door opened and closed again then a man emerged from the passenger door and ran into the woods
00:43:32
the car apparently in gear or left in neutral on uneven ground rolled and drifted across
00:43:41
three lanes of southbound traffic and came to a stop after running into the center barricade this is where it was
00:43:49
eventually found wow now over the course this witness information is crucially important and it all comes
00:43:59
down to the man the witness saw running into the woods reports are that the witness believes
00:44:04
that the man he saw was white Caucasian about six feet tall Logan was nearly six feet tall so that fits
00:44:15
biracial but he's not going to I don't believe that Logan would be described by an eyewitness as Caucasian
00:44:23
I I actually could see it see him being identified that way he is a lighter-skinned black man
00:44:30
yeah um I I'm just saying I think it's possible but could you imagine you see this car
00:44:38
it's going too slow so that makes you think the eyewitness is correct there's nobody driving the
00:44:44
car it's a runaway vehicle right yeah going too slow well that'll make sense because there's nobody in the
00:44:52
driver's side to be pushing the gas pedal right or did the driver decide to go from the driver's side to the passenger
00:45:00
side steer off to the shoulder and then get out but again why would Logan that has no
00:45:11
history of behavior like this do this and it makes you wonder I mean look everybody
00:45:21
not everybody it makes you wonder what was going on if this was Logan what was happening was it was he driving
00:45:31
under the influence of possibly weed or the influence of alcohol or just impaired driving from because he had
00:45:41
several jobs that he was working it just doesn't doesn't make a lot of sense at all
00:45:48
no it makes zero it makes zero sense again it's without somebody to fill in some of these blanks
00:45:55
and we don't have anybody coming forward saying that they spoke with Logan or met
00:45:59
with him or hung out with him during this time without somebody to fill in some of
00:46:04
these blanks we we really can't make any sense of it I don't think anybody could
00:46:09
well let's go back to something too because if this truck driver big shout out to the truck drivers Love truck
00:46:15
drivers big shout out to the truck drivers but the interesting thing here is if we knew
00:46:21
from the towing company or law enforcement hey when we came up to the car the car was neutral or the car was
00:46:27
in drive or the you know I mean that's a great question and one thing I also thought about in regards to the vehicle
00:46:34
itself like okay so did they leave it in drive and it was simply idling because we know it was traveling at a slow speed
00:46:41
was it idling or was it left in neutral and it's just on uneven ground and it is
00:46:46
moving to until it stops itself right was it a stick shift in whomever was moving it or
00:46:55
you know there's a there's a lot of questions about I believe it was on automatic but I could be wrong now I
00:47:02
think you might be right because one of the the family statements regarding the vehicle was that the gear shift
00:47:09
and I didn't want to take it as far to say that it that it was an automatic or stick shift based off of this
00:47:14
information but they did say that the the gear shift was pretty loose in the Sebring you know how sometimes they can
00:47:22
get really easy to to maneuver right over time some of them may have a button to engage them and you don't even have
00:47:29
to use the button after a few years but the statement was that they believe that if somebody bumped it that it moved
00:47:36
easy enough that if you just bumped it it may you may be able to put it into a different gear one so the thought maybe
00:47:43
is whoever was on the passenger seat getting out of the vehicle could have bumped it that's that's a possibility
00:47:50
what we do have here though in regards to these eyewitness or potential eyewitness accounts of this vehicle
00:47:58
moving across Lanes it's really this is very dangerous we're talking about a situation where several people
00:48:06
could have crashed or had some kind of vehicle accident regarding the movement of this vehicle what we do have is we
00:48:15
have the detective Frawley who is currently the lead he was not the the lead detective initially but he's
00:48:22
currently the lead on the case today he said specifically that there is only regardless of how many people called
00:48:30
9-1-1 to report the vehicle there was only one witness who saw someone actually get out
00:48:38
of the vehicle and flee Into the Woods this was the truck driver now do we get this drawing from the truck driver
00:48:46
no we get this from a from a potential other eyewitness we should point out that this area of
00:48:54
Interstate 5 is not entirely rural but is surrounded by Acres upon Acres of woodlands and was described by one
00:49:02
Searcher as thick and Brushy this area was searched for Logan now keep in mind he's missing for four days
00:49:12
before they realize he's missing so there was a six hour search using six teams utilizing both tracking and
00:49:21
cadaver dogs that found nothing in this area they also used heat seeking Aerial Technology to penetrate the thickly
00:49:29
wooded areas surrounding the scene around where his vehicle was found and came up with nothing I think that if
00:49:37
something bad happened to Logan in that in the Woodlands area right yeah or the media area of where his car was yeah I
00:49:46
don't know how much heat on his body is going to be left five six days later I I
00:49:53
can't tell you that but it doesn't seem like that would work for me now police did scour 9-1-1 call records and found
00:50:01
that another call could be related to Logan this call came in at 3 AM now mind you the vehicle was found at 2
00:50:10
pm this call came in at 3 A.M on May 21st from a driver near the intersection of case Road and Poland Road this is
00:50:19
very near where Logan's vehicle was later found the caller reported seeing a young man
00:50:28
sorry I have to laugh the caller reported seeing a young man who was nude from the waist down stumbling along the
00:50:35
roadway ah you saw me the caller said the demand that they saw was possibly black but the caller wasn't 100 sure
00:50:44
right this is apparently near an area that is frequented by crack addicts so there doesn't seem to be so there's a
00:50:55
crackhead uh running around with no pants on you know doing the helicopter playing flicky flicky and uh but he
00:51:03
doesn't know for sure if he's black we you know we have to report this because it is some information but I want to be
00:51:09
clear there is no there is zero evidence whatsoever that this was Logan and Jenny
00:51:16
his grandmother is adamant that the that she and other family members believe that
00:51:22
they do not believe that Logan was heavy into drugs they do not believe that that
00:51:27
was Logan that was spotted by this 9-1-1 caller well yeah I look we all we all know that it only takes one time uh but
00:51:38
again I I just don't think with this kid's history um with his character that this is something that like they
00:51:49
said would be evidence of Logan well and given what you know is in the area what the area is
00:51:56
kind of known for it seems much much more likely that it was just somebody else that was spotted and this 911 call
00:52:05
somebody's calling in to report hey there's a man out here that you might want to come out and
00:52:10
ask him to put some pants on yeah my issue is how do you not know what race he is
00:52:16
well I see in his naked ass it's Interstate five it's three a.m in the morning and you're probably traveling
00:52:24
between somewhere between 60 60 miles an hour and 75 000 miles an hour so you're
00:52:30
probably not getting that great of a look at the individual well I also wonder if it's one of those Millennial
00:52:36
kids with the super tight pants on so they thought that they were nude but they just really had super tight pants
00:52:43
on here's a little Ray of Hope for the family for Logan's family Logan's Facebook page
00:52:51
reported a check-in at the airport in Olympia meaning someone's checking into a flight at the
00:53:01
airport in Olympia but sadly it turned out to be a one year ago alert from Facebook so not this
00:53:10
actual activity on his page yeah but this is weird to me because normally what happens and I know you're not big
00:53:15
into social media but normally what happens is Facebook goes hey here's this memory of what happened on this day a
00:53:24
year ago two years ago five years ago do you want to share that you normally have
00:53:30
to click yes I want to share this again it normally doesn't just share that for you that's interesting so but then I
00:53:40
talked to a lot of people about this too it's there's so many hackers that go into
00:53:47
accounts change some names delete people's history could it just be a Facebook glitch could
00:53:55
it be some kind of hacker on to his page could it be a family member or a friend
00:54:00
or some girl that he dated for a while that knew his information and decided to log on to see if they could help find
00:54:08
anything but that's tricky because the general statement that has been put out there
00:54:15
and this was years after Logan went missing is that Logan's accounts social media
00:54:23
accounts have been untouched so it seems like a pretty blanketed statement there but that that's the
00:54:31
general statement that's out there and but like you said somebody going in there to monitor does that trigger
00:54:38
anything right eight months after he went missing the sheriff's department admitted publicly
00:54:47
that All Leads had been exhausted by that time and they were out of ideas but then yeah but look I I applaud
00:54:56
law enforcement to do that I am I applaud for them to go look we had some leads we followed them they
00:55:05
went nowhere we need more leads we need more help yes I do and I think that that
00:55:11
is sparked by the possibilities because this is not a murder investigation this is a missing person's investigation
00:55:19
and the sheriff's department was very open saying look we have no evidence to lead us to the conclusion that Logan is
00:55:29
dead however we have no evidence to lead us to the conclusion that he is still alive
00:55:34
right so there is some hope if he's out there maybe he decided to leave maybe he said
00:55:40
you know what I've had enough I don't know who I am I'm looking I'm I'm trying to figure out who I am in this world
00:55:48
his his family situations are where where I come from what are my roots he may have decided to to part with his
00:55:56
personal belongings and his vehicle and and take off it's it's certainly a possibility
00:56:01
13 months after he went missing this is at the end of June of 2017. another witness came forward they are
00:56:09
actively looking for Logan this isn't one of those cases that just went cold this was a case that they were pumping
00:56:15
out information and looking for the Public's help they were posting his picture and the sheriff's office phone
00:56:24
number places looking for information and this is the result a possible lead 13 months later this witness came
00:56:32
forward who believed she had information now I want to be clear here I'm taking this with a grain of salt for reasons
00:56:41
that I'll get into but the family seized on this information seeming to accept it at all face value
00:56:49
as a legitimate sighting of Logan likely out of desperation the Sheriff's Office received a tip from a woman who
00:56:58
says she saw Logan's car on the freeway the day that he went missing yeah that's
00:57:03
key that's key right there we do not know per the statements released to the public
00:57:10
did this witness give us the actual date and her tip or just say I saw his car the day he went missing I
00:57:19
would like to know inquire further does she actually know the date of when she says that she saw this yeah you want
00:57:28
the truth but yeah so it's not clear and to take that a step further it's not even clear what that means the day he
00:57:36
went missing does that mean Thursday when Jenny last Saw Logan or Friday when his vehicle was found
00:57:42
the woman told deputies that the vehicle was sitting on the right shoulder of I-5
00:57:48
southbound near Exit 95 when she was driving to work that day and the same vehicle
00:57:56
was still there on her way home from work but this time the hood was up and there was a black male standing at the
00:58:06
rear of the vehicle and there were two white males standing with him she described one of the men as white six
00:58:15
foot tall and very thin with thin blonde hair styled in a bowl cut he was wearing jeans that she described
00:58:23
as way too short and a tank top that was way too small the Sheriff's Office released a sketch
00:58:31
of this man who is is he creepy looking Captain uh pretty creepy looking I'll post this picture on our Instagram
00:58:41
you can find our Instagram at True Crime garage or go to the website truecrimegarage.com I'm warning you
00:58:47
though as far as drawings go this look this looks like something like out of a horror movie to me
00:58:57
and I was thinking the undead I've seen online people say that it looks like a little bit like Marilyn Manson
00:59:04
yeah it's I'm just warning you it's like you're gonna see this it's something it
00:59:10
almost looks like if you had a bad dream and you're like I was fighting this guy
00:59:14
and he was scary looking well what did he look like this is what you would draw so they law enforcement released this
00:59:23
sketch of the creepy looking dude the other man was also white with shoulder length blonde hair
00:59:31
he was wearing a flannel shirt and jeans according to the witness but the witness
00:59:37
did not get a very good look at this second man with blonde hair so they've not released a sketch of this
00:59:46
other guy so here we go again with witness sightings of Logan that could turn the
00:59:53
whole case on its head if this was Logan if this is true he was in the company of two men whom
01:00:02
police have not been able to find he's in the company of these two guys right before he goes missing right and
01:00:11
then if this eyewitness is true then the car after Logan was with these two individuals the
01:00:18
car it then moves after yes well that's correct but but the uh according to the witness she saw this
01:00:28
in the general area of where his vehicle was eventually found but yes right given
01:00:34
her description the vehicle moved at some point but I have to say captain there's reason for I believe there's
01:00:40
reason for us to doubt that this sighting was actually Logan one the woman who supposedly saw him
01:00:48
she's speeding by on the highway we've already talked about that 75 000 miles per hour very hard to see anything at
01:00:55
that rate of speed yeah she did not know Logan either right two this tip was reported more
01:01:03
than a year after Logan went missing so what convinced her in 13 months time that it was Logan
01:01:11
that she had passed on that day right three there is no indication whatsoever that Logan's car had any kind of vehicle
01:01:21
trouble that I could find when it was returned to the family I think that if it had trouble like if it was at a gas
01:01:28
battery was dead it was inoperable for any reason at all I think that information would have been
01:01:35
released I think that information would have been stated outright yeah it's it's
01:01:42
very tricky because if you're going to approach a vehicle let's say you're you're a bad person you're approaching a
01:01:50
vehicle because you have something to do with Logan going missing you could always pop the hood to make it look like
01:01:57
you're you know oh we're just taking care of this car on the side of the road no need to stop you know what I mean so
01:02:03
it could be some kind of ruse but I I know that's that's going out on a limb and here's the other thing we talked
01:02:10
about tagging the vehicle she says that when she initially passed the vehicle on her way to work it was on
01:02:17
the right shoulder okay when she comes back from work now the hood is up so we talked about the
01:02:25
vehicle moving but if it was abandoned on the right shoulder hours before it was found
01:02:31
you would think that maybe somebody would have called it in or police would have come by and tag the vehicle that
01:02:39
was never done as well not to say that it has to happen but it didn't happen there is one man who was looked at as a
01:02:48
possible suspect in Logan's disappearance Mike Ware remember this is the uncle that employed Logan at his farm right
01:02:57
said that Logan was not happy living at his grandmother's house after he returned from college this was because
01:03:05
while he was at College his sister Chloe her boyfriend moved in with his two kids
01:03:12
this was a guy named Jake and Jake and Logan did not really get along the extent of this depends on who you talk
01:03:21
to Mike Ware says that they hated each other and there were fist fights between the two oh fisticuffs Grandma Jenny says
01:03:30
that the two weren't friends but they just avoided each other and it was no big deal yeah but look if you're if
01:03:37
you're avoiding somebody you don't want that son of a [ __ ] to live with you well and Jake has a little bit of a
01:03:42
history as well he's of course he does convicted on some domestic violence charges from the past pleading guilty to
01:03:50
felonies assault in a previous relationship this is back from an incident in 2013. now does this Jake
01:03:58
look like somebody that would like come crawling out of your TV from a horror movie
01:04:03
no no okay it seems at the very least that he and Logan butted heads right at the very
01:04:11
least if we're going to go by Jenny they didn't like each other but they just avoided one another in October of 2016
01:04:19
Jake from Allstate was arrested for violating his probation I threw in the All-State party right the
01:04:27
police used this as an opportunity to question him about Logan's disappearance and they even polygraphed him at this
01:04:34
time the reports are that he passed the poly Mike Ware the uncle who spent 37 years in law enforcement says he's
01:04:44
publicly stated this I'm skeptical saying that you know the polygraphs can be beaten or it could
01:04:52
just be not administered correctly correct and of course it's totally possible that Jake and Logan got into it
01:04:59
on that Thursday after Jenny left for work something happens to Logan and now we got a situation where
01:05:08
we're moving a vehicle and leaving it somewhere I I do want to point out something here
01:05:14
though if Logan met with Foul Play the movement of the vehicle and where the vehicle was found makes zero sense I
01:05:24
get let's abandon the vehicle to make it look like something happened to the young man right I also get hey let's
01:05:31
let's abandon it on the side of the road somewhere to make it look like maybe he
01:05:35
broke down and he took off on foot and something happened to him then I get that having it lodged up against the the
01:05:43
center barricade and then have a witness who says witnesses that say they saw the
01:05:48
vehicle moving but no one driving the vehicle that doesn't make any sense to me no but
01:05:54
I could see we have all of Logan's items cell phone wallet drive around a little bit before
01:06:03
you abandoned the vehicle and like you said it's that 45 minute spot that he's at because like you said people go well
01:06:12
he's supposed to go to work or was going to work and we just don't know what that 45 minute
01:06:20
Gap was well and there's no shortage of theories in this case but there have been ones that I think
01:06:33
are are more plausible than others and this is put forward by the Thurston County Sheriff's Office that say that
01:06:40
there's a possibility that Logan was experiencing some kind of psychotic break in 2016 Sergeant Carla Carter of
01:06:49
the Thurston County Sheriff's Office said quote we're not sure what happened but there was some indication perhaps of
01:06:56
some mental health issues Logan was the age that schizophrenia and often manifest itself and apparently latent
01:07:06
mental illness can be spurred on by excessive marijuana use in some people that's their statement
01:07:15
If Logan was having a psychotic episode it would explain his withdrawn and erratic Behavior his paranoia his
01:07:23
Epiphany and his bizarre disappearance but also possibly would explain this eyewitness seeing a half naked man if if
01:07:32
he's going into some kind of psychosis or psychotic break then you know it's very possible that that was Logan
01:07:44
that somebody saw half naked on the side of the road it just seems like we would have more
01:07:49
eyewitnesses that also saw this individual I mean other than the the thick Woods
01:08:00
it doesn't seem like this is such a desolate place that we will not find Logan possible but yes it was it was searched
01:08:13
now we should point out though too that uh the same law enforcement agency says that another big theory that they have
01:08:22
is that Logan is in fact still out there that he left on his own wanted a fresh start
01:08:27
and that's a big reason why they have been so transparent with the public with the information that they have and
01:08:35
seeking The public's help in finding and locating this young man we also have a situation though Captain where we know
01:08:45
his phone records Logan's phone has been thoroughly traced and tracked by law enforcement
01:08:53
some of his last text were to his online friend or online girlfriend they've not
01:08:59
met in person so I think girlfriend's a bit of a strong label there I agree her name is Carolina and
01:09:09
he says to her in a text Logan says to Carolina I don't know if I'm going to survive
01:09:17
this week that's one of his last texts to her this would be right around the same time maybe the day before he says
01:09:24
to Grandma I've had an epiphany something's going on with this young man right and I don't know if it's identity
01:09:33
crisis or just not liking where he's fitting in in this world at the time or what have you or it's a mental break
01:09:40
and and then you wouldn't know what's up and what's down right and this seems to
01:09:45
me to be two situations for a potential Cry for Help we also have text messages from Jenny the grandmother she says she
01:09:56
came home Logan's not there but the TV that would be in his bedroom was out in the family room unplugged and nothing
01:10:04
functionally wrong with the TV so much so we know this to be true because she text him one trying to find
01:10:13
him but two in these texts that he's not responding to says is there something wrong with your TV so that's weird
01:10:20
because again you could it could be something so simple as he was moving something around or
01:10:30
gonna take it to a friend's house or or was he packing up I mean it's it's weird
01:10:35
you could put this you could put so many different angles on this little piece of
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information but I have seen stories right we talked earlier about the paranoia Grandma at least points out the paranoia
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and a lot of people you just chalk that up to well he's smoking a lot of pot you
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know people have experienced that that's pretty common thing but was this paranoia was was this the start of some
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kind of schizo you know episode I've I've seen situations I've read situations of people believing that
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they're being listened to through electronics that are near them right I don't know if schizo I don't know if
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that's the correct term it's definitely not a correct term um so my apologies but
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I have heard of situations where people think that that others are listening to them was this get this TV away from me
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kind of kind of situation i i in the tough thing is we only have Jenny talking about this we don't have
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anybody coming forward from his work saying hey I worked with Logan and he seemed to be a little off we don't have
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really anybody from his school other than this quote-unquote online girlfriend saying that he might not make
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it through the week I mean that's that's not a good sign what we do have though is we do have
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those former friends that seem to agree with the idea that Jenny puts forward that the year before the summer before
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Logan seems to be withdrawing from his group of friends and of course he decides to change colleges at the last
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minute we have them agreeing with that but look that's not that odd no it's not obviously if you're a biracial kid
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regardless of your regardless of your race if somebody's saying race racial racist comments to me and my friends
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don't have my back I'm not their friends anymore right or maybe they were never my friends to begin with so
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I don't see that as a thing I think that what I see is a thing here a very big problem in this case
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is I touched on this earlier this is not a close family there's some kind of drama there's something strange with
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this family and I don't mean strange as in they're bad people there's something I can't seem to
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identify because I don't have enough information but what I can say is that I've seen reports where Jenny says
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that Logan saw his mother between the time that that he that she last saw him and he
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went missing and I've seen reports where the mother says she hadn't seen him for
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a week before he went missing right almost like they're covering something up there's no Unity
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inside this family right there's no Unity there's not a united front of people coming forward and saying we know
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that a b c and d happened and then our loved one disappeared and that is causing problems I believe
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in our understanding of the case as well as the investigation Itself by law enforcement right it's just like Jake
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the Snake Roberts the the boyfriend with the two kids what's his deal you'd think
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that the family would be coming out again United oh look yeah he has some issues and stuff but he's he wanted to
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do something uh where it would cause Logan to disappear well Mike where the uncle the great uncle who Logan seems to
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have been close with he says it was to the point where the guys were getting into fist fights and then grandma says
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Ah it was no big deal right that's two very different stories about the same situation
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the other thing too is Bill her husband Jenny's husband there's like no mention of him in any of the stories at all
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I I don't I don't know why that is it could be very simple that he's not at home very often or
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he he is a non-factor in the story but it seems like someone that he lived with there would be something further to that
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story and then what's very bizarre to me and I don't want to sound like I'm attacking a
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victim because as far as I know Jenny is a victim the family members are victims
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here in this case as well but discovering I'm all for what she did going down to the uh police department
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or the Sheriff's Office and filing the report in person I always think is a hundred times greater than doing it over
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the phone however when she got there and there was no one there was no haste on her behalf there was no
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energy put forward other than you know what this can wait till Monday this can wait two more days
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you could have called 9-1-1 or what I think would have made even more sense you could have called your
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relative Mike Ware who worked for that Sheriff's Office for 37 years he could have made a phone call he could
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have clued you in onto what to do there seems to be some kind of Disconnect here in this family that
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makes me very confused about the whole situation and trying to identify what happened to this young man did he
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leave on his own did something happen to him how far outside of his inner circle
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do we need to be looking for what could have happened to this young man well again a kid a young man
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good looking young man Logan smart hard-working yeah maybe is struggling with some identity stuff or or maybe
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just struggling with where he wants to go in life that doesn't mean that there's a mental break I don't know if
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there's enough evidence to show that he was having some mental break yes is that
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part of the equation you have to look at of course should we be talking more about mental health issues of course
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it's just strange to me and like we were talking before it's almost like you're looking for him but you're not really
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looking for him and it's like you call family members you call people that he worked for why wasn't that done why why
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was there there seems to be a lackadaisical effort on some levels and other levels it seems like you know
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again I got you have to applaud the person that is spearheading the investigation as far as the family or
01:17:28
friend level because you have to have that spearhead that's going into law enforcement going we need action we need
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something done yeah I do want to be very clear here on my thoughts and feelings because I believe that overall the
01:17:43
family's commitment to finding Logan has been admirable the family was forced to take matters in
01:17:49
their own hands at one point we did have the Sheriff's Office saying we've run out of leads we've run out of ideas and
01:17:56
so the family started the Logan schindelman is missing Facebook page which has over 13 000 members today this
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to spread the word of his disappearance they did hire a private investigator they created a reward fund that has been
01:18:12
I believe it's ten thousand dollars they created this reward fund through yard sales of Their Own
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and making commemorative bracelets that they sold to the public to raise this money
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and some of them have even pestered local TV news channels for coverage on the case
01:18:33
one thing that I do find to be very interesting and I said something just a few minutes ago Captain how far outside
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of Logan's Inner Circle should we be looking for answers as to what happened to this young man I found this to be
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fascinating in February of 2017 the family Logan's family sent letters to 37 homeowners in the case Road area
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this is near where the vehicle Logan's vehicle was found asking them simply to please check their yards their
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properties these people have acres of land 37 homeowners property owners who have
01:19:16
acreage please check your acreage for anything suspicious any suspicious objects or any possible
01:19:24
signs of Logan I feel like the answers I I don't know where in fact they lie but I think that
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we've we've said where the answers could be found we just need some somebody to come forward and fill in the blank
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blanks with some more information here now the case has been assigned to detective Frank Frawley and the family
01:19:49
feels confident that the case is being worked by someone who cares someone who wants to find Logan as badly as they do
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if you or anyone else has any information please call the Thurston County Sheriff's Office at
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360-786-5500 and we will have that phone number in today's show notes foreign [Music]
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