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not normal well you're definitely not normal let's talk some true crime this is true crime garage and this
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is the case of James Dean [Music] [Music] warley the Fon County Sheriff says authorities
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located the body in an area around County Road 7 Friday night positive identification will be made through
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either fingerprints or DNA but at this time we strongly believe that this is Sierra local state and
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federal investigators search the grounds and ponds in that area including the nearby home and barn of the suspect
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James warley who is currently charged with abduction additional charges against warley are pending I want to
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express my heartfelt condolences to Sarah's family at this time our investigation
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will remain ongoing but we do anticipate additional charges against the suspect 20-year-old
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Sierra Jin of Metamora was a junior at the University of Toledo she was last spotted riding back home alone on County
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Road 6 after parting ways with her boyfriend her bike was found in a cornfield off County Road 6 law
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enforcement has been professional and unswerving in their efforts a family spokesperson thanked volunteers and
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authorities for their help and is asking the public for privacy during this horrific time Sierra was a remarkable
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young lady with a contagious smile she was a loving person who has touched many people in her life we miss her and we
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will always love [Music] her [Music] 20-year-old Sierra jogan was a student at the University of Toledo in Ohio she
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was out with her boyfriend on July 19th 2016 they were riding bikes in rural fton County which is west of Toledo
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Sierra Sierra's boyfriend Josh he was riding his motorcycle and Sierra was on her bicycle Josh said that they were
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riding together and at about 6:45 p.m. they had parted ways so Sierra was last seen by her boyfriend around 6:45 on
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July 19th she was riding her purple bicycle on County Road 7 this is an area near where she lives in Northwestern
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Ohio according to search warrants from the Fon County Sheriff's department and this is where her and Josh grew up at
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yeah yeah and they had been together for quite some time right yeah they started
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dating in middle school and and and knew each other since they were children yeah
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and so she's 20 at this time and she's in college I don't know if Josh was in college at the time but this is a very
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long-term relationship and I believe she rode her bike to Josh's house and he's he's kind of riding alongside of her on
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his motorcycle well yeah she rode to his house and then I think she's going to ride her bike back from his house to her
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house and we even came across a picture uh Josh is appears to have taken a picture with his cell phone yeah I'm
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guessing that it is a Snapchat of some kind um I'm not 100% sure on that it it seems like in the corner there's like a
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little timer thing so maybe that's a Snapchat photo uh obviously he took a screenshot of that and he posted on
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social media and what he said in that post was if you have seen Sierra let me know this is why uh this is what she was
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wearing um I'm sorry that I kind of said that a little funny he posted I don't want to be the grammar
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police because we know everybody knows that listens to the show we're not Grammar doesn't exist in the garage
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right so uh he just kind of misspoke a couple times or mistext I guess but he posted that on social media if you've
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seen CA let me know this is what she was wearing and you can see in the photo he's taking a selfie he's on his
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motorcycle and you can barely see him though in the picture he yeah he's just in the corner um I'll post that on
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Instagram at True Crime garage and you can see her in the back purple bike like a mountain bike yeah it's kind of like
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over his shoulder you see her on her purple bicycle yeah and she's wearing you know um like official biking attire
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it looked to me or athletic gear like kind ofout gear CrossFit cross training whatever you call it yeah and so and
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then in the back of that it looks like there's some cornfield so again I'll post that on Instagram and a can check
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that out at True Crime garage according to search warrants from The Fulton County Sheriff's Department her
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boyfriend had exchanged text messages with Sierra for a few hours that evening before she suddenly went quiet he tried
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to reach her repeatedly that night but all of his calls went to her voicemail Sierra was reported missing by her
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family Tuesday night July 19th yeah so my question is how far cuz they she was coming back home and he was on his
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motorcycle for just a little bit but he then exchanged text messages with her for a while after that MH and that's
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what I find odd is so how far was this bike ride home or did she go home and just was not seen and then she went back
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out on on her bike again I don't know that answer I'm guessing she may not have come home uh the her mother Sheila
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said that she knew something was wrong very soon she knew that evening that something terribly wrong was going on
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with Sierra uh and she knew that the moment that Sierra didn't answer her phone so police are fully wrapped up in
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looking for Sierra who is who has now been reported missing by her family I do want to point out out that the police
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were quick to announce that Sierra's boyfriend Josh was fully cooperating in the investigation and he was not
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considered a suspect yeah and I think rightfully so cuz this is not just her high school sweetheart this is her
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middle school sweetheart they met when they were 10 they become best friends uh at a very young age and then they start
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dating and in a small community like this uh you're more you know you quickly become more than just a boyfriend and
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you start becoming a part of the other uh your significant others Family well and the other thing that I'm guessing
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too here Captain is when they say that he that Josh the boyfriend is fully cooperating they're probably talking
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about things like what was leading up to the last time you saw her okay well I was on my motorcycle here's my
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motorcycle you know check check out my motorcycle check out the picture I took here's my phone look at the text
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messages look at what she sent back to me here take my phone all night and next week if you want to yeah and this is uh
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Northwest Ohio this is you know kind of a royal area definitely definitely rural
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area uh especially the the county road that she was on yeah and and uh fton County um 2010 they say had a population
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of over 42,000 uh which could sound like a lot but it's not a lot when you compare it
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to the area to the the size of the area yeah and fton County was named after Robert fton the inventor of the
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steamboat and I90 goes through this so you'll hear a lot of cases where people talk about I90 we had a lot of cases
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where we talk about I90 which is a Highway uh Interstate travel you know travels from state to state and we
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should point out that this area of Ohio is Northwestern Ohio and it's all it's very close to the Michigan border yeah
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and so just a approximation now everybody's thinking Fon County I've never heard of that
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um this is 45 minutes away from Toledo this is an hour and a half away from an Arbor Michigan uh in about an hour and
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15 minutes from Finley Ohio okay so after Sierra's family reported her missing the police start to search the
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area where she was last seen again this was County Road 7 during the search uh they come across a cornfield now if you
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look at a map of the area you will see that there are plenty of corn fields that line the these County Roads that
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are up in that area uh and in one of these corn fields they find her purple bike uh they also find evidence of a
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struggle they find two pairs of sunglasses one which belong to Sierra and they also find a screwdriver and a
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motorcycle helmet which is covered in human blood yeah let me pull up this picture real quick
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um because I want to see in the picture yeah in the picture she's wearing sunglasses uh Josh is wearing sunglasses
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as well now the the sheriff uh Roy Miller he was quick to point out you know after announcing the findings uh
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finding her bike and some of these other items I don't know that they were fully
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uh upfront with the other items that were found but they did say that they had seen evidence of a struggle and a
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possible abduction and he wanted to make it very clear to everyone that their number one goal goal was still that they
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have not located Sierra their number one goal was to find her after finding these
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items that we just listed the sheriff's department continued their search of the
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area combing the areas around the county road for additional Clues and leads they
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come across the property of a James Dean warley now what I couldn't figure out is
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is this James's property or is this his mother's or his brother's property or maybe it's just like a collective family
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property I read one article where it said that he had lived with his mom and his brother um I the only other article
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that I was able to confirm that with was there was another article that stated that he lived with his mother and a
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neighbor that lived near them he had complained to her about his mother's growing uh medical cost yeah well she
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was in a nursing home she was like 99 years old right um now here's one thing that I've wondered about here captain
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now the police found the motorcycle helmet right yeah it supposedly had uh human blood on it I'm wondering if you
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know did they just stop at every home along the county roads there and go up and question the person or did they
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happen to see you know from from the road from the view of the road where they able to see a motorcycle in the
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driveway or up by the house or near a barn or something and think well possibly and when they were looking for
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um some kind of suspect they were looking for somebody on a motorcycle and that's where it gets a little
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interesting with Josh because uh like we said Sierra's boyfriend Josh was on a motorcycle so did they see James warley
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or did they actually see Josh on a motorcycle well either way it brings them to James warley yeah they end up at
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Worley's property and for whatever reason whether they saw the motorcycle cycle or not they decide let's go talk
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to this right but this is also not a huge town right it's not a huge uh County and at the time um warley is
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known to be a small engine mechanic and he basically runs a small engine um repair shop out of his barn mhm and he
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did a lot of work for neighbors and people that lived in the area I'm guessing you could take your uh you lawn
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mower lawn mower anything with a small engine you know maybe dirt bike or whatever
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yeah probably mainly Two Strokes so they decide that they want to talk to the person that resides at this property and
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when authorities talked to James warley he had told them that his motorcycle had
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broken down very near the same location where they had found the missing woman's
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bike the motorcycle helmet and other items earlier and of course warley said that he had lost his helmet he had lost
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his screwdriver sunglasses and some fuses for his bike now of course these are the
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are precisely the items that were found at the scene and it was not made public that any of these items were found but
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what is also extremely suspicious James warley said something that the investigators found quite strange he
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made the comments that he didn't steal anything or kill anyone yeah and the person's conducting
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the interviews observed what they appeared to be fresh marks on the arms of James warley and what appeared to be
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bruising on his lower legs that is just a silly remark by anybody oh I didn't steal anything and by the way I didn't
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kill anybody yeah my my bike just broke down and and hey hey Captain how was your weekend well I didn't steal
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anything and I didn't kill anybody yeah the now the sheriff's department has what they call probable cause and what I
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call 100 arrows all pointing at the 57-year-old weird dude living in the country that just admitted leaving his
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bloodied motorcycle helmet right next to the missing woman's bicycle so this is when they get their search warrant and
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when the authorities went and executed a search warrant at James War's property what they found was even more
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disturbing they find blood on War's motorcycle at the property they also find a trove of items that are commonly
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used to commit criminal activity more specifically abductions they find zip ties a ski mask and mace all these items
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were found in War's truck a further search revealed a barn that had an area concealed by bales of hay nearby was a
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secured freezer that had blood in it now there's no details on whether it was the
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blood itself was linked to sieras or to the suspect but let's think about this for a second a secured freezer so he has
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a a freezer that locks and they find some blood inside of it well it's like carpet lined freezer which is which is
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odd I've never seen a carpet line freezer and authorities also found duct tape several pairs of female panties
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journals maps and a nanny cam on his property a nanny cam and there's no like baby or anything there's no nanny right
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or baby uh authorities also The Nanny cam isn't it's like spy on your nanny is it well no well keep an
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eye on the nanny so he's not punching the kid M but anyway back to the the secret room okay this area that was
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concealed by bales of hay the secret room contained restraints and these could only be described as for holding
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humans against their will it also contained plastic sheeting ropes chains and a meat hook these were all found on
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the property among other items so he's got kind of a whole Dexter Studio set up there in his in his barn yeah and this
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Barn is I mean there's parts of the barn that look a little dilapidated uh but for the most part it seems like to be
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well upkept and like something that was uh functioning a functioning Barn that they could use um probably some some of
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those parts were used for the engine repair business yeah but clearly he had spent some time outfitting a portion of
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this barn with the well the tough thing with his own James Dean dungeon yeah the
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problem though with the media and I think everything is that we make this huge big deal about all this secret room
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well it's probably not an actual secret room it's a barn right so it's only a secret room because he took this
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entrance and put uh bal's a hay in front of it so they just constantly the media
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is constantly trying to make something sexier than it is I mean and that's a horrible phrase that people use but oh
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it's more intriguing if if it's a secret room no it just has happens to be a room
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that he hid with bales of hay well but also keep in mind you know the the the authorities firmly believe that he was
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probably at the location where her bicycle was found no I understand that and they find this room and so of course
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after all these findings at the warle property the Outlook became even more Grim as it was starting to look like the
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the police and the sheriff's department they were not going to be able to find Sierra alive almost immediately there is
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widespread support across the state of Ohio in the search for Sierra jogen some family members and friends they handed
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out flyers with information about her others raised more than 25,000 through a GoFundMe page to support the search many
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others showed their support online by sharing information about her disappearance there was even a $100,000
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reward offered for information that led to Sierra jun's whereabouts despite efforts and prayers Sierra would not be
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found alive in fact her body was located on Friday July 22nd jun's body was found
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3 days after she went missing and she was found in a shallow grave in a cornfield not far from the James Dean
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War's home James warley was arrested the same day he as we said lived in fton county and he had been charged with
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aggravated abduction and aggravated murder in this case now most articles that I read did not mention how Sierra
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Jan's body was located or what may have led them to her body but her remains were discovered 3 days after she was
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reported missing but just hours after police arrested James warley an autopsy report from the County coroner's office
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shows that Sierra had died from a fixation due to Airways being obstructed from a plastic gag in her mouth she
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choked to death on a large plastic gag she died of a period of minutes after the gag was placed in her mouth the gag
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was described as a large yellow oval plastic device 3 in long and 2 in wide and one of Sierra's teeth had been
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chipped the report further detailed that Sierra's body was found hog tied with ropes and duct tape and her hands were
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handcuffed behind her back so her ankles were taped together and the they had tied with the the Rope to the hand
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handcuffs to the tape right there was no evidence of a sexual assault that could
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be found um the report further revealed that Sierra's body was intact with no indications of significant trauma and
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there was more evidence the blood and the sunglasses that were found it was later revealed that they had contained
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War's DNA M yeah we kind of assumed that they were warley anyways mhm but but we
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already had things connecting warly and now we're just circling the wagons and connecting more things to this
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despicable person well yeah they're just piling and piling the evidence uh to take this to trial and one thing that
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came out very quickly after his arrest was everybody started talking about well is James Dean warley a uh serial
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abductor because this is something he had been involved in before well yeah but let's be clear when when her body
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wasn't found they just thought she was missing and he was charged before in 1990 he was
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charged um with the Abduction of Robin Gardner MH and so they just kind of assumed here he is
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again abducting somebody but they'll be found and then once she's found then you
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know we'll charge him with abduction and he'll go to jail but then uh Sierra's body's found and now the game has
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changed and we have a brief description of the abduction from 1990 um it was you know you had said
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Robin Gardner she was riding her bicycle again we see young woman on her bicycle
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in a Royal Road near Toledo uh and she told authorities that warley had hit her purposely and that he had tried to you
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know once he had knocked off was he driving like a truck or something he was driving his truck a flatbed truck and
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while he was on that I90 man once he had knocked her off of her bike he tried to
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handcuff her um in his flatbed truck while threatening her you know he's saying things like you you know do what
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I say do what I say or I'm going to kill you I'm serious I'll kill you uh according to the 1990 pre-sentencing
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report this is everything that that came out in court regarding this case uh Robin Gardner told police that she had
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managed to escape the truck and run to a man who had stopped his motorcycle after
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seeing the struggle inside the truck according to Robin warley had inflicted a 1in laceration on her right knee using
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a flathead screwdriver now at the time James Dean warley he was running a lawn mowing business uh again working for
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himself here uh he did deny trying to harm Robin Gardner he told authorities he had only tried to restrain her
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because she was trying to leave the scene of an accident all right well James how did she get the gash on her
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leg with a screwdriver yeah you don't that's what I'd ask about you don't usually restrain somebody using a
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screwdriver I just try to restrain her you know with a screwdriver I wonder if he if he also stated shortly after that
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that he didn't Rob or kill anybody no I didn't and didn't steal anything anyways
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no but the thing is you know James is not a small guy by any means uh and the best way to describe him in
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like in the jury in the court photos that you can see of him uh he has you know this like Red Jumpsuit on like a
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prison jumpsuit but he looks size-wise kind of like uh leather face in Texas Chainsaw masc here if you just didn't
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have a mask on I mean he's kind of a bigger dude kind of large and lumbering kind of dude yeah um he had went on to
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say that Gardner that Robin Gardner had caused the crash and that she had she had cut in front of him with her bicycle
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and his statement was that my family and myself are good decent and very honest people and that that was his statement
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to the judge at the time mhm now afterward warley entered a plea to the abduction charge and he was sentenced uh
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for 4 to 10 years in prison according to an old Court Document which I mean this
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is what makes I mean I love our country I love America I love Ohio but this is what makes our country so strange this
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guy abducts a lady mhm for no freaking reason he stabs her in the leg with a screwdriver right mhm a sentence he
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pleads yeah he guilty then he sentenced for four to 10 years mhm and then he's released in three yeah he was released
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on parole in 1993 and there's got in jail smoke that were caught smoking pot a couple times that are spending more
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time in jail than this guy is yes yeah here here again we see how that makes any damn sense I I don't know or even
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dealing drugs you know what I mean it's like there should be some kind of separation between violent offenders and
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non-violent offenders you know because to be honest with you Captain the guy that the guy that's selling some
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recreational use drugs uh you know two streets over mhm he doesn't scare me I'm not afraid of that dude but the dude
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that decides you know I normally don't like that dude because that guy thinks he's a baller or something and I'm not
00:29:06
really interested in that dude but he doesn't scare me but the guy stabbing the girl with a screwdriver in the leg
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he doesn't scare me I just don't want that individual around me no but what I mean is he's he's scary to society you
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know this this guy it just he's he's driving and decides you know what oh there's a pretty girl there's a pretty
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woman on a bike I'm just gonna hit her with my truck well our law take her home right and our law enforcement and our
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government should be really thinking more about how to protect the citizens than to oh well Lissa you smoked a
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little pot so we're going to throw you in jail for for longer than uh James Dean spent in jail for stabbing a girl I
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mean abducting her uh handcuffing her and uh stabbing her in the leg with a screwdriver and I do want to say that I
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am a believer in Rehabilitation I'm all for it however I got to believe that it's probably easier to rehabilitate the
00:30:01
drug user or the drug Pusher rather than somebody like James Dean warley I mean he's he sat in prison he's in there for
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three years and he probably masterminded some of his uh I don't want to say masterminded because he doesn't appear
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to be that smart of a guy but uh he he seemed to have developed his plan a little more thoroughly during that time
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between the time of his uh original sentencing and the time of this abduction I mean he outfitted a por of
00:30:27
his barn for his well yeah let's dive into that Twisted hobby here and let's dive into a little bit of his psychology
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into a little bit of this James Dean Worley's um so after he was charged with the abduction in 1990 and then released
00:32:50
in '93 I think he was coure ordered to actually see a therapist yeah because believe it I believe beli that at the
00:32:57
time they thought he could probably do this again yeah and so as he's talking to his therapist he's making claims that
00:33:06
uh you know he's learned from his past abductions now plural MH so we only have the one on record or one that he's
00:33:15
charged with Robin Gardner but like I said in 90 so but he says abductions meaning
00:33:24
more than one so what happened to these other victims yeah and who are they you know are there cold cases out there that
00:33:32
that he has been involved in um we know his type right you know we we've seen two victims that are roughly the same
00:33:39
age with 20 and 26 and um you know the the their young women young white women uh on both happen to be on bicycles
00:33:49
which is strange enough but he seems to be a person that works for himself and kind of must create his own hours uh and
00:33:57
he probably if he's done this more than once I'm guessing well no let's just assume he has cuz he's saying plural you
00:34:06
well and we know that he's done it twice but what I'm saying is he's done this more than once I'm guessing he's
00:34:12
probably out trolling for victims that he's he's not just driving home from the grocery store after picking up a gallon
00:34:19
of milk and going oh there's a there's a girl that I would like to hit with my vehicle and bring back to to my barn I
00:34:27
think it's he's out actually looking for uh a victim that's by themselves uh that
00:34:33
that he thinks he can easily overpower and abduct them yeah possibly trolling at some points but I think in other
00:34:40
cases maybe it's just opportunist you know so it's not far from his barn uh the Sierra case m is not far from his
00:34:49
his property and he could have been picking up a part for engine you know either on his motorcycle or in his truck
00:34:57
and then gets back and goes I'm just going to take my motorcycle out there you know who knows I'm not we don't
00:35:03
really have a clue on that but so possibly sometimes trolling possibly other times just opportunist so but he
00:35:09
makes the statements to his therapists that I've learned for my mistakes and the next one I'm going to bury yeah yeah
00:35:16
which you would think all right which is in the Sierra case he does because she's
00:35:21
found in a shallow grave yeah yeah so we know that the he kept his word on that but what I'm saying maybe he shouldn't
00:35:27
have been paroled um that should have been a few red flags go up right there obviously right and um but I you know in
00:35:36
these situations the therapist is is more representing the The Prisoner than the previous victim mhm you know and
00:35:46
they got these statements from the therapist through search warrant but I was digging a little more on this and it
00:35:53
is actually now standard protocol that if you have uh somebody in therapy and they start making claims uh about
00:36:02
hurting others you actually have a duty to actually go to the police with this so if you State uh you know I just hate
00:36:09
working in the garage and I I feel like I'm going to hurt uh the co-host you know my therapist needs to
00:36:17
dig deeper well why do you hate him well he stutters on his words he says escaped
00:36:22
um stuff like that they have to dig a little bit deeper and if they think there's
00:36:27
actually some malice in there or some validity to what you're saying they need to go to the authorities now the first
00:36:34
abduction does appear a little more uh opportunist to me where obviously the second one well I'm glad you're on the
00:36:42
same page as me now yeah this the second one is clearly planned out you know he's
00:36:46
got the the weird dungeon in his in his barn and he I don't I don't know if the second one's planned out or if that
00:36:53
weird room is just there I mean from from how long ago was that room set up no what I what I meant by that is
00:37:02
maybe that particular evening on July 19th maybe he you know he didn't set out that evening planning to abduct somebody
00:37:10
but what I'm saying is I think that that area was uh put together with certain items to to have a place for when an
00:37:19
opportunity presents itself right right and this is why the sheriff Sergeant would give the statement that warle fits
00:37:27
the profile of a serial offender and that he could potentially have additional victims who may have been
00:37:33
kept at his property for a short amount of time or sometime it's a what's John's
00:37:38
Brews company again five toes Brewing it's a good beer in the first abduction we see where he was unable to control
00:37:47
his potential victim she gets away cuz he didn't stab her enough with the screwdriver yeah and he was probably
00:37:53
looking to um handcuff her or tie her up to gain control over at some point or at
00:37:59
least get well the other factor in this is the other motorcyclist mhm and he was
00:38:03
he was trying to drag her to back to his truck according to Robin Gardner and unable to carry out that abduction now
00:38:13
we see where in the second abduction he is able to overpower the victim and to gain control of her um it does seem a
00:38:23
little strange to me he has those marks on his arm and the marks on his leg so you know at least there was a struggle
00:38:30
and it it does seem strange to me though if he was on a motorcycle uh that's that's a tricky way to to grab somebody
00:38:39
and take them back to your place right right but then I'm wondering is it a run off the road situation you're on a
00:38:47
motorcycle which is a lot bigger than you know a mountain bike and so is the idea that you'd run her off the
00:38:54
road I I gu I'm guessing I I mean he he may not have had again he may not have had a plan this may have been an
00:39:01
opportunity that presented itself to him and he he acted on it um impulsively and
00:39:07
I think that's clearly what we see in the first case maybe in the SE the second as well uh even though he did
00:39:13
have this place that he intended to take her well he and he might have taken her
00:39:18
there I mean because the police haven't released every all the findings of what they found in the barn I mean they have
00:39:24
claimed that there is no uh human remains that they have found uh I think once they research the property more
00:39:34
um that possibly they're going to find some things and those that will be brought uh to light in trial but like we
00:39:42
said this is a very new case and this is something that they have to keep a lot of stuff close to the vest because they
00:39:48
do have to try uh they haven't put James on trial yet and I'm curious if they are
00:39:55
able to end up up finding any DNA of of the victim at his barn or at his property yeah and that's something that
00:40:03
they haven't made claims to yet but they did say that there was blood on different parts uh in that secret room
00:40:11
mhm and remember he did have that that potential abduction kit in his truck this is found in his truck mind you you
00:40:19
know and we're we're told that he used his motorcycle in this abduction I believe that they're going to find uh
00:40:25
Sierra's DNA at his property I agree with that and I think they Pro they may have already done that we know that they
00:40:33
went and uh what was it in August of this year after after this case was put together they did go to his property
00:40:41
searching for the possibility of other human remains or evidence that there were other people kept there now we've
00:40:50
been told that as of this date they've not found any of that well thanks for catching up I said that about five
00:40:56
minutes ago and but but here again like we said I wouldn't be surprised if there
00:41:01
is evidence of Sierra like you said DNA at his at his home at his in his truck or on the motorcycle in the barn they're
00:41:10
probably holding on to that they're going to use that in court against him keep in mind he has pled not guilty
00:41:16
right uh I wouldn't be surprised if he is guilty of other I I think everything points to him being guilty of of Sarah
00:41:25
of Sierra case 100% yeah I think the other thing that's weird about this is I mean we you know
00:41:34
we get a list of cases that are presented to us and you know we we've we like to do some profiles here and there
00:41:41
and we happen to do Ed gin recently uh or like our Australian buddies call it Ed G Ed G oh you guys did that case on
00:41:50
Ed G um goofy Aussies um but this is kind of a similar situation aies Aussies you and
00:41:59
I got in the habit of saying Aussies no Aussies that's why I call them like aie osborns uh they're from the land of
00:42:06
Aussies um no so it's kind of the same situation you got this family um plot of land with the barn and everything and
00:42:15
then they it's the same scenario you know and then they go back to you know Ed's house and they find all this weird
00:42:22
stuff well you don't find as weird of stuff but it's still you got the secret room with all these you know basically
00:42:30
methods of torture and then you find this victim and she was tortured and well and she it it sounds to me like she
00:42:39
may have passed a lot earlier or a lot sooner than he had anticipated um you know she died from as
00:42:48
asphixiation on that gag on that apparatus that that he had put in her mouth now yeah and I question this
00:42:56
autopsy a little bit and normally I wouldn't just because science is science the problem though is that there's blood
00:43:04
on his helmet mhm and I'm just wondering how bad of a Blow To The Head maybe that
00:43:10
she had uh due to the helmet I I don't know they did say there was no no visible signs of of like extreme trauma
00:43:21
okay so where right right but no I I'm with you I think that he used that blood probably came from him overpowering her
00:43:29
to to take her somewhere else well and and if anybody's been watching uh the CBS special on um Jan Ramsey they were
00:43:38
talking about you that possibly that she was hit with a flashlight but there was
00:43:44
so there was damage to the skull but there was no break in the skin so it could have been the same thing so no
00:43:52
break in the skin but there's still damage to the skull or damage to a bone there was blood present who knows like
00:43:58
they said we don't know if it was his or hers or combination of the two um I wouldn't be surprised here Captain we
00:44:06
were talking about psych you know the psychology of this monster MH I wonder if there are other victims out there
00:44:15
more than the two that we already know about if he is guilty of other crimes do we see a confession here at some point
00:44:25
do we see a guil plea at some point just to kind of you know what I mean because
00:44:30
he he looks very very guilty of there's no getting out of this one there's no getting out this but there's a way to
00:44:36
walk away from suspicion of other crimes I think yeah but I think the the the way
00:44:41
the lawyer plays it is that if we present a not- guilty plead then it puts more pressure on the da so it gives you
00:44:49
more bargaining chips if you're just going to plead guilty from the word go then they're not going to Len the
00:44:55
sentence and and also hope hoping that if you extend it out further that maybe there's not as much um public pressure
00:45:04
MH and that that hold us get a lighter sentence yeah and originally he was when he was first picked up he was being held
00:45:12
without bond um and then eventually he did enter a not- guilty plea to the charges and he's currently waiting for
00:45:22
his trial now I've been told that his trial will start next September not not this month but the following September
00:45:29
so they probably have a pretty big case here to put together um I don't think that he has the means to afford great
00:45:38
counsil um and I mean that in the terms of expensive Council right uh does doesn't mean that there's not great
00:45:44
Council out there um by his means but what I'm saying here is well some idiot will come along and pay for a good
00:45:52
Council and then make a documentary claiming this guy's that this monster is innocent and it's very likely that he's
00:45:59
going to face the death penalty you know we still have the death penalty here in
00:46:02
Ohio um he is a repeat offender um and this was a very heinous crime yeah I mean this is a beautiful
00:46:12
girl with a lot of life left I mean she was going to school she had the loving family she was doing everything right
00:46:18
and here's this guy that's doing everything wrong and their paths crossed for whatever reason and this is the
00:46:24
outcome and deserves to go away forever he deserves to get sentenced to death if
00:46:30
if if that's what your state carries and the thing is here well the the current state of the Ohio State death
00:46:39
penalty is is a bit strange you know we're not currently able to use the the drugs that they use to put people to
00:46:46
sleep and um because of that we've not actually executed anybody I believe in the last 3 years um there were working
00:46:56
to try to figure that situation out um so unfortunately where our victim her life was cut way too short this guy
00:47:06
regardless if he's found guilty or not he's probably looking at a long stay here in prison he's 57 years old he may
00:47:13
not ever see that execution date well like I said here here's some problems that we have you know the therapist
00:47:19
they're taught to if if you think that these claims that people are making have any validity you need to go to law
00:47:27
enforcements I believe these claims had validity I mean he's already charged and
00:47:32
uh and spent time in prison for one abduction he talks about multiple uh abductions then he talks about the next
00:47:39
victim that I've learned from my mistakes the next one I'll bury this is red flags this should have been caught
00:47:46
this is um you know when you talk about therapy this is a mental health thing and this is this is an area that we need
00:47:54
to step up in exactly and if and if they would have caught this earlier and I'm not putting
00:48:00
uh I'm not putting any blame on them I'm just saying that if we really step up this area this crime never would have
00:48:07
happened and Sierra would still be living and and and and attending school as we speak then there's other problems
00:48:15
where he only spends three years in jail for abducting a girl and not only that but I mean [ __ ] some assault charges are
00:48:23
longer than 3 years and he he stabbed her with a screwdriver yeah which is another uh item that we found in this
00:48:31
case so all around this is just there's there's a lot of issues with this going on the thing that is really confusing to
00:48:39
me and I would like to know this information I could not find it anywhere is that her boyfriend Josh talks about
00:48:46
that he was in communication with her after they split mhm and for a while I just want to know how long that was and
00:48:54
what what happened in that time period yeah yeah the the only description that I was able to find was he was saying
00:49:00
that they exchanged some text messages and then at some point she quit responding to his messages and then
00:49:07
that's when he tried calling her phone and yeah and it could have been something like text me when you get home
00:49:14
so I mean that time period could be actually a lot smaller than is what's reported it could be short it could be a
00:49:20
handful of hours for all we know but at some point he's calling the phone and he's only getting the voicemail and a
00:49:25
lot of another thing that's happening with this case is there's a lot of threats to James Dean Worley's property
00:49:33
and again same thing with the edin case uh when we talked about when his property went up for sale they actually
00:49:40
somebody burn it down um burn down the whole facility and they knew that it was arson so there's actually been similar
00:49:48
threats to um wy's property and this is actually something that he really cares about
00:49:56
now I'm not saying that this place shouldn't be burnt down and I'm not saying that I want to applaud the person
00:50:02
that did it I'm not saying that I would uh you know give them a couple rounds of
00:50:07
beers afterwards but um but mind you this is ongoing investigation mind you that
00:50:14
there are other victims possibly out there that we don't have answers to their story and not just
00:50:22
abduction uh scenarios but possible other Mur murders and that evidence could be found on that property so
00:50:29
anybody that's thinking well I'm going to burn down this guy's place you might want to think twice
00:50:36
because you might be stopping the possible solving of another crime yeah and his property and it may be it may
00:50:44
belong to his mother or his brother or to everybody in the family I don't know but the property that we're talking
00:50:50
about we figured out is what roughly about three acres so it's not it's not a small piece of land now they they have
00:50:57
searched it for remains or or evidence of such of abductions or whatnot they haven't found that but that doesn't mean
00:51:04
that they've searched every nook and cran right but the thing too is that's what's being reported like we said
00:51:09
before that's what's being reported that doesn't mean that's the truth M and in this case the the law enforcements don't
00:51:15
have to be open and transparent to the public you know no because there's still a trial that's going to happen and and
00:51:21
the main thing is to get this monster locked up and put away for a very long time now there was a person in the area
00:51:28
that had said that her and her daughter had gone to his property to get a her daughter had some kind of Rec
00:51:35
recreational vehicle that that she used and the daughter was was kind of young like maybe 13 or
00:51:41
14ish um they were having that vehicle repaired by warley and they went to the barn and he was working on you know
00:51:51
fixing this vehicle and one thing that the lady had said that she found to be extremely strange about him now she had
00:51:58
actually this was just days before The Disappearance of Sierra she said one thing that she found to be strange of
00:52:06
James warley was that they had been there about a year to a year and a half prior to have something else fixed and
00:52:14
this was the only time that she and her daughter had ever met James warly right they arrived to get this vehicle
00:52:23
repaired and immediately greets them by both by name he clearly remembered them uh which she found to be strange uh and
00:52:33
he even pointed out that mentioned to the daughter like oh aren't you like 12 you know she he had got the age right
00:52:41
from the year before mhm uh she had also said that the first time that they were
00:52:45
there back in 2015 that the barn itself was a wreck like it was just a total mess there was
00:52:52
stuff everywhere and when they returned this time in 2016 uh just days before The
00:52:59
Disappearance that the barn was extremely tidy it was very clean everything had been picked up and put
00:53:05
away in its right spot and she found it to be strange that this person had lived
00:53:09
and conducted himself in in in one manner for so long and then just a year later complete change yeah but it could
00:53:18
be a million different reasons I mean some logical reasons I mean his mom might have been put away in a home and
00:53:26
then he then decides that he's going to organize things the way he wants to again is it that strange that he
00:53:32
remembers their name hey it's business practice you do business with somebody before you make some notes and then you
00:53:38
can remember a little bit something about them next time you do business with him that's a common business
00:53:43
practice um it may not be strange to you and I but it was strange to the person that had met him on two occasions which
00:53:50
I find interesting and and you know furthermore uh you know is it strange that the barn is all of a sudden clean
00:53:57
no but did he clean it for a purpose other than you know just tidying up the place was he getting rid of things that
00:54:05
he didn't want on his property I'm just going to go with what the therapist talked about when he said
00:54:12
abductions I've learned from my abductions more than one uh I don't think that's some slip by any means I
00:54:19
mean he also had this uh weird relationship with his mother was constantly there was a lot of claims um
00:54:27
by the nursing home that she was in and by other caretakers saying that he was very mean to her uh the police were
00:54:33
called out uh one time to check on the mother because they thought maybe that warley did something to her uh there was
00:54:40
also a time that uh he went the police were called out to the property again because he had a fight with his brother
00:54:46
um nobody was arrested at any of these times but with the mother case the police were so concerned that they
00:54:52
actually said no we're going in the house and when they went in the house house she was just asleep so I mean this
00:54:57
this this is the stuff that pisses me off so much because here's this guy that committed a crime he gets let out too
00:55:04
early he's now talking to a doctor he's saying some goofy [ __ ] nobody reports that he has all these other weird
00:55:11
freaking claims and everybody knew him as you know yeah he's fixing engines and maybe that means that you don't get a
00:55:18
you're not around a bunch of people all the time but it's like as a society let's wake up people and when there's
00:55:24
some weird [ __ ] going on and somebody's acting a little [ __ ] cooky let's take note of it and then
00:55:31
give that to somebody that maybe can take uh some action on that on those notes but it's it seems like you know I
00:55:39
applaud the lady she came forward after the guy is is arrested to say yeah you know he he seemed a little strange well
00:55:45
that's great lady after the after Sierra's found that does nothing and just like the doctor congratulations we
00:55:53
already found the victim well the doctor didn't come forward that was a that was
00:55:57
a warrant that was issued and that's when they found that information and right right well so I applaud you you
00:56:03
know for coming forward after you served a warrant no but applaud the the authorities for for serving the warrant
00:56:11
and getting that information uh and the other thing though with with the woman that I was describing uh who knows we
00:56:17
don't you know media media is a bit of a [ __ ] right we who knows they could have
00:56:22
been out with their cameras bit of a [ __ ] with cameras and with their microphones with their pads and their
00:56:27
pencils going around fton County asking anybody did you know James Dean warly and if anybody's willing to say anything
00:56:35
they jot it down and next thing you know it's on CNN or it's in People magazine or it's wherever um you know she may not
00:56:42
have come forward she may have been asked a question um now we talk about possible other abductions right um now
00:56:51
one thing I thought that I would take upon myself was to search the Ohio Cold Case database um and I I got a little
00:57:00
discouraged and very tired along the way right so I started because this case just took place two months ago I had to
00:57:08
start very recently right and so I started going backwards in time searching the database for people that
00:57:15
would have been similar description to the two girls that that we know of uh in a similar area and of course I was going
00:57:23
to ignore anything between the years of 1990 and 1993 when he was locked up but one thing that got real sad real quick
00:57:32
was I'm checking out Cold Case murder cases in the state of Ohio and I only made it to the year
00:57:41
2003 that's as far as I could get back before I started falling asleep at the table by the time of 2003 I don't
00:57:49
remember what month I was in at that point but I had already looked through 600 Cold Case murder cases in the state
00:57:58
of Ohio that was that was really took the wind out of my sales to know that there's 600 murder cases that are
00:58:04
unsolved in the state of Ohio since the year 2003 yeah well maybe if you quit your damn day job we could solve some of
00:58:11
these things so I only made it back to 2003 right I'm wondering how far back do we have to go on this guy checking these
00:58:21
cold cases and seeing what's in the area and see seeing anything that matches the
00:58:27
victim profile before we come across anything well I the questions I'd want to ask is when did his father pass away
00:58:34
what was his relationship with his father uh we know that he was mean to his mother had some issues with his
00:58:41
brother um I would want to know some of his history in high school but I think you could with somebody sick like this I
00:58:48
think he could go back as far as 18 well and I think too that you might want to know maybe what was his different living
00:58:55
situations has he always lived at the mother's property you know because you had mentioned earlier that you thought
00:59:01
that she was now living in a retirement home yeah she might have passed away by now I'm not for sure last I saw she was
00:59:09
like 99 years old right um you know he's 57 well when you give uh birth to evil maybe you just can't die yeah but what
00:59:18
I'm wondering is are we seeing are we seeing something here where um where he's he's starting up again well I think
00:59:27
because because Mom's not around because now he's there's there's less eyes on there's less eyes on James Dean Worley
00:59:33
in the property that he lives what I mean by that is you you wanted to ask questions about him specifically I'm
00:59:40
wondering what was some of his different living situations did he ever live by himself because well I think the bigger
00:59:46
issue with this whole thing is that if he was driving a truck for a living and on that I90 now you're talking about you
00:59:53
know not just North West he was a he was a landscaper at that time so it it may have been a landscaping truck that he
01:00:00
was driving I don't think he was like a a semi truck driver yeah but all I'm saying is that you're on that I90 so
01:00:06
it's very easy to jump on and and then you have you have this excuse of this company that you can give to your family
01:00:16
and friends probably didn't have any friends uh on why you're out of town yeah yeah and you're right he might not
01:00:23
have had any friends there there was a person or two in the area that had said he seemed to be a guy that knew a lot
01:00:29
about the people that lived in the area and nobody in the area really knew a lot
01:00:33
about him yeah I mean typical loser right MH uh and I and I think the thing about it and that is scary to me is when
01:00:42
you look at the college towns around that area you got Toledo you know an hour and or less than an hour away an
01:00:49
arbor about an hour and a half away you have Finley Ohio which is hour and 15 away you got Tiffany University up in
01:00:55
that area it seems like that the the kind of girl that he's going after is college age yeah and and it's like this
01:01:05
bad Perfect Storm no you're right because most most people see that as see those as areas of potential uh growth
01:01:13
personal growth higher education he sees those areas as hunting grounds I don't know what he sees him as but I just
01:01:20
think just think he's a real douche well his actions I can H that he sees those as hunting grounds it's it's obvious um
01:01:27
I do want to point out here that there was a woman that came forward recently her name is Rachel Hill uh she is the
01:01:34
sister of Lauren Lori anill sorry um and Lori an Hill was killed in 1995 she went
01:01:42
missing for days before a hunter discovered her body in a cornfield now Lori was just 14 years old at the time
01:01:50
of her disappearance and her death um her sister really feels like James Dean warley is guilty of of her sister's
01:02:00
death there's not a lot of evidence to to provide that suspicion um however it should be noted that that she believes
01:02:09
this because of the similarities in the case as well as the close proximity to where they live do you know how close
01:02:18
that is no I I guess um she was the victim lived in a place called uh Swanton yeah I don't know that area too
01:02:28
well I used to play in Finley a lot at ninos so anybody in Finley Ohio I used to play there you probably saw me play
01:02:35
sometime m in Toledo Bar 145 if you get need a nice beer check out that pleas uh
01:02:42
i' played there several times um no I think when it comes down to this all I mean a lot of
01:02:50
armchair detectives and and real detectives would go okay well we have one victim at 20 and one victim at 26 so
01:02:58
this is just his Mo and like I said he's college area so he's it's like this bad
01:03:05
Perfect Storm but you know even though I I don't really care too much for this lady's comments afterwards about you
01:03:12
know him knowing her daughter's age I think people are so quick to say oh no no it's not his M Mo he's he's into 20
01:03:23
year olds he just might be into opportunities and so I think this is if this lady has a gut feeling that uh
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James is involved um they need to take that serious and and hopefully they can add another charge to this and I think
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it's important that you dive into these other cases solely for that once I believe
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once he's convicted of this crime this heinous crime and he is sentenced to life or death penalty or whatever and
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hopefully and I'm not advocate for the death penalty but hopefully he sentence to death and
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therefore warle will start speaking so these other victims families will have some closure MH yeah because once once
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the possibility there's no more threat you know you can't can't be threatened with a more harsh sentence so why not
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why not come clean with some of with some of your actions um so real quick here I just looked up we talked about
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Robin Gardner she was the first girl that well we had spoke about her she was the one that he attempted to abduct from
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an area called White House Ohio now White House Ohio is about 12 miles Southeast of Swanton Ohio Swanton is
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where this Lori Anne Hill had disappeared from now Swanton Ohio is only about six or seven miles east of
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where warley was currently living uh at the time of of this case Okay so next week can we just like talk about like
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Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory cuz sometimes this stuff just it's just it's
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horrible because at the end of the day this beautiful girl lost her life and uh and this guy you know who knows what
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he's going to if he's going to get if they're going to get Justice or not and I'm hoping and I'm praying that uh he
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gets the harshest allowed yeah he's he's currently facing 19 charges some of those charges are
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kidnapping aggravated murder um abuse of a corpse uh like I said he'll be facing
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court next September I think that the state will get the Justice uh and put this guy away forever and and hopefully
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get some justice for the family and his other potential victims I'd like to hear
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an update on this lorian hill situation um hopefully they can figure something out with that as well yeah and if we get
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any updates um we will do a update show on this we do have recommended reading Captain all right this week we are
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recommending this this week we're recommending Charlie in the Chocolate Factory read something that's not true
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crime so you don't feel so bad about the world well we are recommending released
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to kill Again by John Summit well that sounds like it's true crime mhm are criminals who have been convicted of
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murder really being released back into society to live among us in this book John Summit reveals the Shocking True
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Crime and murder stories of seven convicted criminals who not only killed once but they were paroled only to kill
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again you can pick that up by going to our website truecrime garage.com click on the recommended page you will see all
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of our books that we've recommended over the past year um and is it is it up to date now it's up to date but I I I I
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should correct what I just said I don't think you can find everything that we've
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recommended on there but there's about 20 or so books currently listed on there so you're only like 30 books behind I'm
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we're missing some of the ones from the early days all right that's that's your one job is that page that's right so go
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to go to True Crim garage.com click on the recommended page don't listen to the captain and pick up released to kill
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Again by John Summit today and for everything true crime garage you can check out our website true Crim
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girl on the train yeah it comes out October 7th October 7th in theaters this is the Thriller mystery about the girl
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on the train who she sees this house every day on her everyday commute and she fantasizes about what's going on in
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the house does the perfect couple live there and it turns out that there is a murder mystery and she finds herself all
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wrapped up in this all entangled in the mystery yeah and I like True Crime but I'm I'm a I'm a sucker for uh mystery
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movies Thrillers and I think this one is just going to be great I'm calling it it's going to be one of the best films
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of the year yeah my favorite is a who done it and this looks like a really good one and I know a lot of my friends
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have read the book and so they're really excited about the movie I have not read
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the book yet uh but sometimes you know the book is is better than the movie and all that kind of stuff so I'm not even
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going to read the book on this one I'm going straight for the cinema on this one girl on the train October 7th and
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you know what the popcorn always tastes better when you're watching the movie rather than reading the book right so
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yeah and you don't get butter on the pages on the pages you wipe the butter on the pages yeah so go see uh Emily
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Blunt starring bring in the girl on the train in theaters October 7th and until next time be good be kind and don't
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