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[Music] crime we kept telling you that things in the timeline regarding the missing
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disappearance of bryceless pizza were going to get weird well here we go we're starting off in the we hours of August
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29th 2013 at 1:00 a.m. Bryce has a phone call with his mother this is one of several
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phone calls that he has with his mother Karen leading up to his disappearance now we do not know what they discussed
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on this phone call however we are later told that his mother Karen believed that
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Bryce would be calling from his apartment which is located in Rockland California later we learn due to phone
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records that Bryce was actually calling from a location about an hour's Drive south of Rockland now I'm going to go
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ahead and make the Assumption captain that Bryce was calling from his vehicle it would be really interesting to know
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what they discussed in this call leading up to this point in our timeline We Have
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Bryce who left his girlfriend's home Kim his girlfriend thought that he was going
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back to his OPP apartment this after breaking up with her he speaks with his mother at Kim's apartment before leaving
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there and during that phone call and that conversation he has already told his mom that he has a lot of things to
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discuss with her now at 11:00 a.m. we find out Karen finds out that the Toyota Highlander that Bryce is driving was in
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need of roadside assistance and the way that this goes down Captain is Bryce was
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sitting in his vehicle which they state was pretty much in the middle of nowhere
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for a couple of hours around 11:00 a.m. Karen his mother received a call that at
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around 9:00 a.m. 2 hours earlier Bryce and the Toyota Highlander needed roadside assistance so
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the way that this goes down and we talked about this on yesterday's show Bryce was driving a vehicle given to him
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by his parents his car insurance paid for by Mom and Dad his cell phone Mom and Dad he has a credit card which I'm
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assuming is for Necessities or emergencies that is in fact Mom and Dad's credit card makes sense so knowing
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that information in the little bits of information we have here I'm going to go ahead and make the assumption that the
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call received from Karen is from the credit card company saying hey there's a charge by the way on your card out of
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town and this is what it's for well the charge was for a company called Castro tire and truck which is located in
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button Willow California Captain button Willow was my nickname in high school so
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Karen either receives a phone call from her car insurance or from her credit card however she is notified of this
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information what we learn is that there's a charge for Castro tire and truck in button Willow California and
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and around noon we have a situation where Bryce needed roadside assistance well what
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kind of assistance did he need he needed gas in the tank his tank had run out of
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gas while he was driving so a man goes out to where Bryce is delivering three gallons of gas to
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Bryce who's found sitting in his vehicle in what is called quote the middle of nowhere well the
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representative from Castro Tire called Karen and stated that Bryce ran out of gas and that after he went
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and helped Bryce Bryce went to go fill up his tank this is around noon and at that time Bryce had
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estimated that his arrival home so now Karen is a away that aware that Bryce is on his way to their home in lagona aguil
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his estimated time of arrival at their home would be 3 to 3:30 p.m. approximately on that
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day well unfortunately by 6 pm. so now we have six hours that transpire between Karen
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knowing where Bryce is filling up the the tank with gas at noon 6 hours has gone
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by and Mom and Dad don't know where Bryce is he should have been home hours ago so what do they do they do the the
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right thing here they call in to the authorities and Report their son missing so a missing person's report is filed on
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Bryce Les piece's behalf I mean maybe if you're trying to get to the next exit or
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something like that that you would miss that you're running low on gas or maybe there's something wrong with your
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gauge but especially when I'm driving long distance one one of the things that I'm constantly checking is my speed and
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how much gas I have and when should I stop and it just seems like he was paying no attention to this or may not
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have cared for any number of reasons well again he could have been an manic state but it's just difficult to think
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that he would be in a manic State when his mom is saying he's not acting any different and then maybe through the
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text messages the girlfriend would be like well he's not really acting that much different but he went to visit her
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and it wasn't like she is you know waving all these red flags saying he was acting like a madman so this is where
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things get incredibly wonky right so we have the person the missing person's report that's filed by his parents I'm
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guessing that they're able to put these things into action so quickly because these items belong to them or they're
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the ones making the payments on them so likely Bryce's phone is in their name the parents call AT&T and do an
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emergency ping on the phone the Ping showed that Bryce was still in button Willow right he's been he's been out of
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contact for long enough we're concerned that he's missing it's been about 6 hours or so since we've talked to him so
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we file a missing person's report yet when we ping his phone his phone is still in the general area where he was 6
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hours prior right where the car broke down where it ran out of gas where yeah so the police go out they're looking for
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Bryce and they find him in a location that is reported to be only 8 m away from where he was at noon the deputies
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say that Bryce was he seemed pretty Lucid now they were a little reluctant they're wondering why he's
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been reported missing yet he's pretty close to where he was last time he spoke to anybody right and so they do submit
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him to a field sobriety test to make sure everything's fine but he passes this test habah habah and they're
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telling him hey you need to call your parents let them know where you are at because they we are only out here
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looking for you because they are so worried that they filed a missing person's report about you well I like
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this you know I know a lot of parents will use owning the cell phone and owning the car and things like that to
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their benefit as far as we can take this away from you if you don't want to act accordingly to what we want but it just
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seems like he has really good parents really good family really good friends you got a friend that's calling your
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mother nobody wants to call your friend's mother you got really good friends he takes off this doesn't make
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any sense but they're they're they're smart intelligent individuals going hey we have these are our phones we can use
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this technology to our advantage because he's so far away it but it just doesn't
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make any sense that like you said what he's eight miles away from where he originally was 6 hours prior doesn't
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make any sense unless unless he told the officers well I pulled over to take a nap or something well and obviously
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during all of this time the parents are trying to get a hold of him he's not answering his phone we don't know why
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Bryce is not here unfortunately to tell us why he was choosing not to answer his
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phone maybe the phone was dead I don't know but they report him missing the police find him he's only 8 m away where
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he was the the general story is this captain that he travels about eight miles in the course of n hours he was
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driving very slow I think I could push a Toyota Highlander on foot maybe that's what he decided to do I don't want to
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use any of this gas I'm going to get out and push 8 miles in about 9 hours and then just be shredded for the rest of my
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life but he doesn't want to talk to his parents according to the police they make him
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speak with his parents via his cell phone during this he agrees that he's going to be coming home now the story
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here gets a little weird because we have a lot of people kind of coming in and out of the story and whatever Bryce is
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up to nobody seems to really know what he is up to because again eight miles traveled in the course of 9 hours he
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gets help from this Christian fell from Castro who gives him three gallons of gas he fills up his tank and he's only 3
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hours away from his parents' home yet he doesn't seem to be making any Headway to
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getting there nor does he seem to care to get there at this point and then again Christian goes back out from the
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Castro tire and truck and he finds Bryce once again now tell me he's made it more
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than eight miles I believe this is in the same location as before where he was located
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before the the exact same come on man this is freaking bizarre and so Christians talking to Karen yeah on the
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phone Bryce's mom saying look he he's in the same spot it just doesn't make sense
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he's here almost 10 hours now after the first time that he needed roadside assistance again the police had talked
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to him earlier there were no they didn't see any signs of drugs or alcohol so is
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he just on the side of the road passes a field sobriety test for my understanding
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Captain he's just sitting in his car sitting in his Toyota Highlander on the side of the road when he is approached
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by Christian this time Christian this guy he's seems like a very good guy he's this is above and beyond when it comes
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to roadside assistance I've had tow trucks drive right past me when I'm clearly the only person on the road in
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need of the roadside assistance yeah but I think look the True Crime community in
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the last five years have looked at cars on the side of the road or you know abandoned vehicle or somebody in their
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vehicle on the side of the road completely different than the normal population so this guy could be a a true
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crime Community guy and knows that a story like this goes from a kid acting strange to we haven't seen him in the
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last 10 years mhm so Bryce tells the police he's just you know they want to know why what are
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you doing just sitting here he says I'm blowing off some steam again he didn't want to talk to his parents they make
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him talk to his parents then hours later a few hours later when Christian the the
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the roadside assistance guy finds Bryce again still sitting on the side of the road Christian's the one that calls
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Bryce's mother to let her know hey he he's still here and so Christian speaks with Bryce and Bryce tells Christian
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everything's okay I'm going to get a soda at a nearby gas station get some caffeine in me and then I'm going to
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continue my drive and head home so approximately depending on what timeline you look at we anywhere from 10 to 13
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and most timelines put this more at the 12 and 13 hours later 12 to 13 hours after Bryce arrived in this General
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location he's finally on his way home I mean it makes absolutely no sense and we
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can say that it it appears that he is finally on his way home because Christian agrees or maybe he comes up
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with the idea when he's talking to Bryce's parents he says look I'll even follow him South on Interstate 5 for a
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few miles a handful of miles to make sure that he is heading in the right direction that he is in fact going home
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well at this rate he's going to get home in time for Christmas we're going to fast forward here just a little bit in
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the timeline Captain because the next morning at roughly 8:00 a.m. the police show up to the LP's
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house this is to ask about their vehicle a 2003 Toyota Highlander they wanted to
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know if they own one if the vehicle had been stolen if so why didn't they report
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it stolen why do you ask well because we found it it's been involved in a pretty
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serious car accident and found a considerable distance away from their home home the Les Pisa explained to the
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police no that car that vehicle is being driven by our son who is off and away at
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college and in fact he called us last night saying he's driving home to our house we haven't heard from him in
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several hours we were up on the phone with him late last night he had been reported missing he needed roadside
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assistance and now you're telling us that our son has been in a major car accident I mean you imagine what's going
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through his parents' mind at this point I mean this would be awful you you just feel so helpless for them well and when
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you hear about this you go okay well we kind of knew that it was going this way this doesn't seem so shocking and
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surprising to us listeners but to the Les pieces it completely jars them it's it's completely shocking to them because
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one thing that we did not include yet in the timeline was a 2 a.m. phone call so
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at 8:00 a.m. roughly the police are there saying hey there's a problem with the vehicle and just 6 hours prior the
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Les pesas were on the phone with their son so he finally calls them he call them heading towards his house he ends
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up calling his parents and again this look I'm not the kind of kid or I wasn't the kind of um child to my parents that
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after the first day of College especially sophomore year maybe your freshman year you're going hey Mom this
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is what's going on but sophomore year he just spent all summer with him he's a good kid they have a good relationship
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he calls his mom to let her know hey I like my first two classes things are going well and then there's this time
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period where he's traveling home but not traveling home and he's not talking with
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his parents and his parents are trying to call he's not answering and then he finally made makes contact with them yes
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and this is weird because his vehicle is found it's it's on its side it's been in
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a major car accident it's a single vehicle accident okay Bryce is not located anywhere near the vehicle not in
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the vehicle not around the vehicle the vehicle's found abandoned air quotes abandoned it at Castaic Lake which is
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roughly about two hours north of lagona Nyle where the parents live and roughly about an hour south of button Willow
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California where we know he was when he needed the roadside assistance so he did
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travel 60 milish before this accident took place now what's interesting though is that we
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know that at 2 a.m. here's the 2 amm phone call from Bryce to his parents we know this based off of a report from the
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local news there and it says quote he took a detour at 20 8 a.m. and got off of the Interstate 5 in a suburban area
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and was going to sleep in his car his mother told Santa claretta news she says I told him to call me when he got up the
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next morning so basically the story is this captain that he says he's too tired to drive which makes a lot of sense
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based off of everything we know in the timeline so far he's going to need to pull over get a little bit of rest this
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is going to extend the period of time that he will be on the road it will extend the period of time till he gets
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back to Mom and Dad's house well let's be clear on that for a second this guy needs sleep most people would need sleep
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just driving through the night or sitting at one spot for hours upon hours we have no clue what he was doing during
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that time period or why he was doing that but what we also don't know is that he was taking some kind of prescription
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medication that he wasn't supposed to be on and we don't know the last time he actually did sleep exactly and to add a
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little more detail to the wreckage it states that the reports are that the vehicle was found around
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515 a.m. that morning and the vehicle had tumbled approximately 15 ft down a Ravine and landed on its passenger side
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off of Main ramp Road just a few hundred feet from Lake Hughes Road Bryce's cell
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phone wallet laptop and clothing were found in the car this report states in the car some of the reports I've
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reviewed Captain state that some of those items were in fact located at the scene but were located and found outside
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of the vehicle and of course Bryce is nowhere to be found his family would later say
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there the back window was was smashed out now think about this this wreckage the way that it's described here 15 ft
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down a ravine landed that that implies that the vehicle was Airborne at some point right it landed on its passenger
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side off of Main ramp road if you look this thing up and this was awfully disappointing and I'm not going to stick
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on this topic for too long but it was rather aggravating I could find pictures of the
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Highlander after the fact after it had been towed from the scene I could not find any picture
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of the Highlander at the actual Rec scene where it was found and in the state that it was found the thing that
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was aggravating about that not because we couldn't describe it to you because those pictures aren't available or at
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least I couldn't find them is that the there are several websites that give the impression that those pictures are in
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fact available and they are not take a closer look at those pictures that people are claiming to be Bryce's
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vehicle lying on its side first off the scene is not as described in the news and second of all that's not
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an SUV that's a car and thirdly that car appears to be a Honda so I don't know why people were trying to pass that off
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as some kind of scene footage or scene picture taken from the wreckage scene but my eyes tell me that that is not
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Bryce's vehicle his family say that it looked to them like Bryce had used a tool to break out the back window of the
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vehicle before crawling out which would make sense that would be if the vehicle's lying on its side that would
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be one of the more easier ways to get out provided that he couldn't access the doors maybe the doors are jammed or
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couldn't get or was not in a state to pull himself up and through one of those doors After figuring out how to open it
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the tool here I wish that we had a better description of what that tool was or the name for it other than just a
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tool but one report that I did find stated that they believe the tool was something that was located in the center
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console so it sounds like a an Emergency type situation tool that was purposely kept in the vehicle now the other
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troubling thing here though too is they go out they being law enforc ment and the local authorities the fire
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department what have you they're doing all the necessary searches right we're searching via land sea and air looking
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for this guy what happened to this dude there's nothing at the scene it's a pretty horrific crash for a vehicle to
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be found on on its side but there's nothing at the scene that's indicating to those experts to those who
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unfortunately have to deal with this type of situation and see this kind of wreckage there's nothing at the scene
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that tells them that oh this guy he he should have died at the scene or or or did die or something happened to him
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here that would cause him to expire soon there was not enough blood or anything like that that they found at the scene
00:25:44
that they were overly concerned it had looked to them like yes this was a bad crash yes this was a bad wreck but this
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dude probably got out managed to get out and walk away now why he left all of his
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personal belongings here we don't know yeah you'd think he'd at least take his cell phone to make the
00:26:02
call but maybe he got out of the vehicle and just didn't feel safe trying to go back into it I mean there's so many
00:26:09
things that just don't line up they don't make a lot of sense but then the other thing like we said he had these
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prescription pills we don't know if he had any of these pills still on him if he was still taking these pills or not
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and so we really don't know what kind of state of mind he was in because we have
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conflicting stories all around of of what demeanor he's in even though I think you would have to want to I want
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to believe his parents and I want to believe the girlfriend I want to believe law enforcement that when we talked to
00:26:40
him he seemed fine he seemed okay but then why are all his actions so [Music] confusing
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cheers to you Colonel cheers to you captain now another report that I have here states that it was obvious that the
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vehicle had plummeted down a 25- ft embankment before smashing onto the road below just to describe this scene the
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best I can I've never been to this location but the way that it's described to me is and this is based off of some
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evidence that the police would later release so the police say that the place where his vehicle was
00:31:00
found the Castaic area is located right off of Interstate 5 about 90 Mi north of
00:31:07
where his parents lived Vehicles traveling can get off of the interstate exit onto Lake Hughes Road which leads
00:31:16
up a hill to Castaic Lake Recreation Area there is a surveillance camera that takes a photo of every license plate of
00:31:26
the vehicles that drive drive by this camera is going to provide us with some evidence here and fill in some of the
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blanks but not all of them unfortunately what we learn from this surveillance footage is that at 2:15 a.m. Bryce
00:31:40
drives by this camera takes his picture this is just a few minutes after he's telling his mother that he was tired and
00:31:47
he was going to find someplace to park so he could sleep for a little bit and then continue the drive but then oddly
00:31:54
enough at 4:29 a.m. Bryce is seen on surveillance footage driving by the same location again it's just so bizarre we
00:32:03
have no idea nobody can piece together where Bryce was from the time that that surveillance camera took the picture of
00:32:12
his vehicle at 2:15 a.m. and then took the picture of his of his vehicle again at 429 a.m. now there are no cameras
00:32:21
tracking cars going down the hill to where his vehicle was eventually found so we can't say with any level of
00:32:30
certainty how long the vehicle was there before it was found wrecked on the road
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so the exact time of the accident remains unknown to this day but we do know that the surveillance camera
00:32:47
spotted Bryce driving at 429 a.m. and then we do know that the vehicle was found by 5:30 a.m. so it doesn't appear
00:32:56
like a great amount of time passed before the vehicle was located but within that short window of time Bryce
00:33:06
disappears now once all of the evidence was analyzed from the wreck the police realized this was no
00:33:15
accident Bryce had sped down the Ravine with the accelerator down all of the way
00:33:22
they're basing this off of the tire tracks that they found they could determine that he was not trying to
00:33:30
prevent a wreck and all likelihood he was racing toward AQ so they determined that
00:33:40
Bryce had drove up the hill on Lake Hughes Road and then entered an access and then entered an access area for a
00:33:48
cell phone tower they followed his tire tracks past that Tower which is located at the top of a steep embankment
00:33:57
then they're basing off of the evidence found at the scene that his vehicle then
00:34:02
sped downhill until it crashed onto the access road people that have been to this scene has said that they believe
00:34:11
that Bryce's intentions may have been to drive into the lake that from where from his vantage
00:34:22
point it would appear that if he drove at that speed that he may CR into the lake rather than the road below because
00:34:30
you would not be able to see the road below from that elevated area right again this is based off of people that
00:34:39
have said that they have been there and described it as such we do know that the
00:34:43
police find the 2003 beige Toyota Highlander on its side on Main ramp road again about 100t from Lake Hughes Road
00:34:52
near Castaic Lake the location is about 40 Mi north of Los Angeles 90 Mi south of button Willow
00:35:00
which we know he was there earlier one of the back windows had been smashed out from the inside according to police the
00:35:08
family says they believe that Bryce used a tool that was stored in the console to
00:35:12
bust out that window Bryce's cell phone and laptop were found inside the vehicle
00:35:19
his duffel bag was found on the ground not far from the broken window the duffel bag was found unzipped and and
00:35:28
several people have said that it looked like somebody had looked through it his clothing and wallet were inside the
00:35:36
bag again police felt like this was a violent crash but they did not think that Bryce would be seriously
00:35:42
injured and they found no drag marks to suggest that he could not walk well that's tough too because
00:35:50
sometimes when you're traveling and you have your travel bag you'll be going through it as you drive oh oh you know I
00:35:57
got some gum in there or I got a drink in there or whatever so it's hard to know was the bag did he go through the
00:36:04
bag before the crash or did he go through the bag after the crash of course not finding Bryce at the scene
00:36:11
they speak with his parents notify them about the vehicle being wrecked notify them about Bryce being missing they go
00:36:19
out and do all of the normal detective work right they interview all the people that spent time with Bryce recently
00:36:24
leading up to his disappearance and they tell a lot of the same stories that we told here today one piece of
00:36:32
evidence that's awfully interesting to me here Captain is that we do know that they used dogs to try to track a scent
00:36:40
Bryce's scent from the vehicle and the scent LED them to two different spots it led them to the lake Castaic Lake but it
00:36:51
also LED them down a trail to a dam on the lake and then it continued they continued to follow Ascent or track
00:37:00
something to the top of the dam and then South on a Spillway on the western side
00:37:07
of the lake before heading towards a truck stop once we get to the truck stop the
00:37:12
dogs aren't signaling that they're tracking anything anymore so people have looked at this a couple different ways I
00:37:20
thought that maybe he went up to that Dam Area and jumped in maybe it was his goal to crash the vehicle into the lake
00:37:29
and after being unsuccessful he went about it a different manner they did search that Lake they've searched that
00:37:37
Lake quite a bit and been unsuccessful finding anything related to Bryce the truck stop is really
00:37:45
interesting to me too again unfortunately these dogs they're tracking Bryce's zent or so we are to
00:37:52
believe but they can't tell us exactly what they are tracking this really led to several weeks of
00:38:02
Investigation by police and I know it's still an open case to this day but two weeks in police had to scale back the
00:38:10
search because they had searched all the areas that they could think of that he could be based off of statements from
00:38:18
people that they interviewed based off of the movements of his vehicle based off of cell phone tower
00:38:25
pings and after two weeks they had no evidence pointing them in any direction in
00:38:31
particular of where to look next like we said yesterday last week marked nine years since Bryce piece has
00:38:41
last been seen now police have received several calls from several people saying
00:38:46
that they have seen him but they have been unable to confirm any of these actual
00:38:52
sightings I do know of one situation where the police went to another state they're told hey Bryce L pie is
00:39:01
there he's living there this is years later they send a detective out there they find the man that they believe is
00:39:09
the man that was reported as being Bryce L Pisa they confirm that man's identity
00:39:15
he's not Bryce the detective basically tells the news I interviewed that man he's not
00:39:21
Bryce but I will tell you that he could be Bryce's twin that's how close he looked like
00:39:28
Bryce laspisa so here we sit nine years later and this is all a big mystery there's so much speculation out
00:39:40
there as to what happened to Bryce where could he be there are people that say maybe this
00:39:46
was some kind of drug deal gone wrong that maybe he was sitting there waiting on a ride for somebody to pick
00:39:52
him up maybe he was sitting there waiting for a dealer to show up to me I look at this
00:40:00
situation and I'm very concerned I'm very concerned for this man's well-being I see a situation a series of
00:40:10
events where I don't think he knew exactly what he was doing I think he felt like he needed to
00:40:15
make some change and maybe that change needed to be drastic but I think he was kind of
00:40:21
winging it and he was kind of making it up as he went along yeah as he sleep deprived and again how much of this
00:40:29
medication was still in him and how much of this alcohol was still in him in his
00:40:35
system you know we look at these cases and there's a lot of people that say bryceless pieces his disappearance is as
00:40:44
mysterious or as much of a mystery as these other ones a lot of times people say Brandon
00:40:51
Lawson I that to me the comparison makes zero sense Brandon Lawson's movements for the most part make a whole lot of
00:40:59
sense leading up to the 911 call Bryce's movements and actions seem to make zero sense at least they make
00:41:07
zero sense to me that's why I think he was behaving erratically acting impulsively he wanted to make some
00:41:15
drastic change he just didn't know what that was or how to go about doing it it was a young man confused stressed out
00:41:22
tired feeling the effects the after effects of drug and alcohol and I don't know I think I can go along
00:41:31
with the idea that maybe he did try to crash his vehicle into that Lake unsuccessfully yeah
00:41:38
but here's the twist is he was only in this state really for maybe a week and a half two weeks
00:41:47
leading up to this point from every person's account before he went back to school everything was
00:41:54
fine he was back back at home visiting friends visiting family family never said he was odd during the summer
00:42:01
friends never said he was odd during the summer and he took this extra class and it seems like there was it's
00:42:09
almost like the weirdness once he got back on campus the weirdness it like turned on like turning on a
00:42:18
light it happened that fast it's very confusing if you want to make comparisons to other cases that we've
00:42:26
covered again this case often gets compared to other missing persons cases I think it reminds me a little bit
00:42:33
more of Jonathan Luna who was in fact a they found Jonathan Luna there's a debate did he die by Suicide or by
00:42:41
murder I personally think it was a murder we reviewed that case that very bizarre case in episodes 572 and
00:42:51
573 his body was discovered in December of 2003 but just like Jonathan's case to me
00:43:00
Bryce his movements and his actions make little to no sense leading up to Bryce's
00:43:06
disappearance or Jonathan Luna's murder in fact the actions and behavior leading
00:43:13
up to both of those situations only raise more questions than providing answers it reminds me a lot of the mara
00:43:22
mura case too well yeah somebody driving get in a wck now I tend to I want to be
00:43:29
a glass half full person here and I think that there is some evidence to suggest that this might be the case you
00:43:37
know Captain I rarely rarely ever say this when we review these types of cases but here I I just feel like maybe this
00:43:45
is one of those cases where this dude took off he went off somewhere for whatever reason and he decided to start
00:43:53
a new life and I think if that if that is the case if that could be the case then maybe leaving all those personal
00:44:02
belongings there at the scene of the wreck is all a part of it right these were all ways that Mom
00:44:10
and Dad his old life was tracking him leading up to that point the car the car insurance the cell phone the credit card
00:44:18
the roadside assistance they were all able to keep tabs on him even when his movements and
00:44:24
travels made no sense and so he decided to leave those items right where he wrecked the car walk off
00:44:35
head over to that truck stop thumb aide and start a new life and maybe out there somewhere
00:44:42
there's some trucker that drove Bryce to greener pastures or what he hoped to be
00:44:48
greener pastures and he knows the reasons why he or she the driver of that truck know the reasons why Bryce decided
00:44:55
to leave it all fall behind well there's the statement that he makes to his mother there that there's some things
00:45:03
that he needs to discuss with her and maybe there was something that he learned about himself or something he
00:45:11
knew about himself that he knew it was time to share with the rest of the world so then
00:45:18
when he gets back to college he doesn't really know how to do that and decides to drink and take these
00:45:26
prescription pills to kind of just put that on hold for a minute and then when there's that call
00:45:35
when his friend makes the call to the mother this is maybe the moment where Bryce is realizing I can't just run away
00:45:43
from life I can't just push this off I can't keep going down this uh this dark Rabbit Hole let
00:45:51
me deal with this stuff now and that's where it makes no sense on him starting a new life because you broke up with
00:46:00
your girlfriend through text if you're interested and started a new life you don't owe her anything you're
00:46:08
not going to feel like you owe her anything you gave her the answers through the text message you could just
00:46:13
leave the next day again I don't think it was planned that's why I said I think that his actions were erratic and
00:46:21
impulsive I think he tried to crash a vehicle into the lake and when that didn't work work that's when he decided
00:46:27
to walk away yeah okay so I'm going to say this and uh no laughing at me okay I'm going to you brought up some cases
00:46:37
this reminds you of and some that it didn't remind me of um but no laughing at this one and let me explain it before
00:46:46
you make any judgment calls here to me this is very similar to Alisa lamb we have all these actions that we
00:46:58
know happen because we can track them through they're documented right they're just done on video footage
00:47:04
for us to all these actions that she made in the in the elevator that seemed to make no sense to us we have the same
00:47:12
thing happening with Bryce I think he walks away from that vehicle and he probably is deceased somewhere we just
00:47:22
haven't found him yet and where basically the whole highway and that whole area was basically Bryce's
00:47:34
hotel where he was losing it and and I think that's what this case reminds me of and it's it's one of the
00:47:44
most confusing cases and perplexing cases I think we ever covered because I can't say that you're wrong
00:47:53
what whatever your gut is telling you and whatever evidences leading you to that outcome there's no gut filling in
00:48:02
my body other than he's probably not with us anymore his parents are of the belief or at least they've been vocal
00:48:08
about this in the past saying that they believe there's a chance he sustained a a pretty violent head injury during the
00:48:18
the course of that crash and maybe he walked away with severe amnesia not really knowing who he was where he was
00:48:29
uh or what was going on or who or who's to say how that works what he would believe at that point you know I
00:48:37
remember those stories on Unsolved Mysteries when I was a kid and always thought well this seems impossible to me
00:48:43
but the the older I've got I can't rule that out I can't rule that possibility out now some good things here to keep a
00:48:53
little light on for everybody to keep a little light on for Bryce his information has been entered
00:48:59
into the national missing person's database his fingerprints dental records and DNA are on file in databases months
00:49:07
after his disappearance the family hired a private investigator the investigator states
00:49:15
that they believe that Bryce intended to return home and bases that theory on Bryce's
00:49:22
GPS coordinates so this investigator must believe that something happened something interfered with him making it
00:49:29
home that night the police seem to believe that he did walk away and that had he passed away that they would have
00:49:37
found him and that maybe he did walk away to start a new life bryceless Pisa at the time of his
00:49:45
disappearance he was 5' 11 in tall 170 lbs with bright red hair uh some descriptions say green eyes
00:49:54
some say blue eyes eyes but one very distinctive mark one very distinctive identifier that Bryce
00:50:03
has is this tattoo it's a rather large tattoo it's a tattoo of a Taurus Bullhead and Roman numerals of his
00:50:10
birthday which is located on his left shoulder he was wearing white cargo shorts and a blue and white checkered
00:50:18
shirt and red Nike tennis shoes at the time if anybody has any information at all please call Los Angeles County
00:50:26
Sheriff's department at 323 8955 his parents have never discontinued their search for him and H to know what
00:50:37
happened to their son one day his parents still post to a Facebook page devoted to finding their son maybe
00:50:45
someday soon we can all discover what happened or we will know the truth if he should come back or if Bryce is ever
00:50:53
located I just feel so bad for his family and his friends and people that were trying to help him especially his
00:51:01
mother staying up trying to communicate with him we don't know exactly what was said but if he did walk away it's like
00:51:10
you have a lot of people that love and care about you you could come back no matter what you know no matter what
00:51:17
happened and at least tell your family that you're okay and not I mean cuz no matter what happened you your friends
00:51:26
and family don't deserve to be put through this if you're the one putting them through it my gut doesn't lean that
00:51:34
way but or my thoughts don't lean that way but that would be my message to Bryce earlier this year on April 30th it
00:51:43
would have been Bryce's 28th birthday as we said last week it's been 9 years since he went missing yet Twitter and
00:51:52
other social media sites are still full of his missing post with so many asking the same question where is bryceless
00:52:00
Pizza and remember there is a find bryceless piece of Facebook page again anyone with any information from 2013 or
00:52:09
more recently that can help investigators locate Bryce please call 323 8955 or to provide information
00:52:21
anonymously call Crim Stoppers at 80022 2 2 tis which is 8477 or use your smartphone and download
00:52:32
the Crimestoppers tips mobile app or go to the website www.ac [Music] want to thank you so much for joining us
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00:53:05
opinions on the blog Colonel do we have any recommended reading for the beautiful listeners yes we do Captain
00:53:12
last week and the week before we spent so much time talking about the still unsolved case of Nancy eagleson up in
00:53:18
paing Ohio which is rather close to Michigan the great state of Michigan and got me thinking about the old serial
00:53:25
killer case from the late 60s and the best book that is on that case is called the Michigan murders this is by Edward
00:53:32
keys this is an award-winning book from back in the day we may have even recommended this one a long time ago
00:53:40
before we even started putting the recommendations on the website but this is a great book it's a true crime book
00:53:47
that should be on everybody's bookshelves that's called the Michigan murders it's about a Serial case out of
00:53:54
the University of Eastern Michigan check that out you can find that great recommendation that title and many
00:54:02
others on our website on the recommended page yeah and until next week be good be
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