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chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] [Music] daddy daddy my name is Brandon Woodruff
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I'm 31 years old I was arrested for capital murder in the deaths of my parents Norman Dennis
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Woodruff and I did not commit this crime I'm innocent and I really hope that people that are watching this if you'll
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just know anything at all I hope that she'll know that I did not kill my parents I would never even hurt them
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they were really really good people to me they raised me well they loved me unconditionally no matter what they
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always would um be there for me they had they had a love for me and my sister and our whole family an
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unconditional love no matter what it was I got a grandmother that really loves me
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she's behind me I just want all of y'all to know that I did not kill my parents I
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just want y'all to know that my parents were very very good people they were very very well liked they did not
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deserve what happened to them they did not deserve to be taken away from me to be taken away from my sister
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to be taken away from our family they should still be here to this day and the real people that really did this
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should be in prison and not me I really think the investigators should really look at this case I think that
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they should reevaluate it and look at possible other people because right now they're getting away with with what
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they've done I would just want to thank everybody watching I want to thank any help that I
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could get further my cause to prove my innocence I really really really hope one day to be able to get to hug my
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grandmother to be with my family where I should be I really hope that justice prevails
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thank you [Music] the state of Texas says Brandon Dale Woodruff murdered his parents Dennis and
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Norma Woodruff inside their home in Royse City Texas on or about October 16 2005. both Dennis and Norma died as a
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result of gunshot wounds and multiple stab wounds the murders were brutal in the crime scene of course not a pretty
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one but before we get into the investigation let's give some very necessary background information
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Dennis and Norma were high school sweethearts they both grew up in Texarkana that's on the Texas Arkansas
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border the two married about a year after they graduated from high school this was way back in 1982 so they were
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married for over 20 years before their deaths and they were described by others as best friends and very lovey
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both went on to earn a degree from Southern Arkansas University Dennis in electrical engineering in Norma in
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accounting after college they moved out to the lake Hubbard area just about 25 miles Northeast of Dallas Texas where
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the two both got good jobs putting their schooling to work and they started a family their firstborn was a daughter
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Charla Annette Woodruff born in August of 1985 and then a son Brandon Dale Woodruff in September of 1986. Dennis
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lovingly most times simply referred to the children as the girl or the boy in the mid 90s the Woodruff family
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stayed in the same area but purchased and moved into a nice ranch style three-bedroom brick home sitting on a
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little more than two acres of land they had a decent sized outbuilding that they called the barn I think it looks a
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little more like an unattached garage it seems like a fair statement to say that
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a sibling rivalry developed at a fairly young age and later when questioned by police Charla and Brandon would give
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differing opinions of what they thought of each other and their relationship as big sister and slightly younger brother
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Brandon's sounds a little more polite and seems to take the Live and Let Live approach
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where on the other hand it seems like Charla had some some disagreements and some grudges held
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against her brother their mother Norma was the outdoorsy type she grew up on a ranch and did the
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ranch type things which meant raising animals working the land and getting her hands dirty Dennis seemed to prefer
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indoor activities both Charla and Brandon were involved with 4-H and Future Farmers of America
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and well let's face it it's not just the kids when you're talking about something
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so involved as 4-H and FFA it's really the whole family that is involved but Brandon really seemed to have a natural
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ability and talent for raising and taking care of animals and yes Captain they were equestrians or as we like to
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call it here in the garage they are horse people so when it came to horses or animals in
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general many have said Brandon has a gift for working with animals as Brandon got older he became a cowboy
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always outside riding horses bareback or out on the barn working when he was about 16 he got a job at a
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local Feed Store where he was not only very hard working but also very well liked
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at high school he ran with a group of kids that were referred to as the [ __ ] kickers other dudes that were involved
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in 4-H Future Farmers of America raising livestock and dressing like Cowboys yeah
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better to be called the [ __ ] kickers than the [ __ ] lickers the guys he hung around with the most were Mike
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Etherington Joe hagaman and Dusty Perry who mostly went by the nickname of Perry
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it seems like Brandon's parents didn't care much for Mike as there were some local rumors that he was
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someone that was kind of up to no good but never really caught for anything Brandon was outgoing both he and Charla
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were attention Seekers and Brandon at times could be a bit of a show-off his senior year he was voted by his
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classmates as the student with the most school spirit now we mentioned the differences in opinion between Charla
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and Brandon regarding their sister brother relationship but there was also a very difference in opinions with the
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relationship each had with their parents Charles says she had a lot of problems with her parents growing up and that her
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father Dennis had a real bad temper and sometimes discipline bordered on almost abuse right Brandon says yes they were
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disciplined like most children would be but that Not only was Charla's description not his experience he says
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Charla is a drama queen and dramatically overstating the family situation if there was trouble in the home growing
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up it may have stemmed from Charla there is an incident when the parents called police because she physically attacked
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her father and it sounds like she was quite physical with Brandon at times as well
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friends of Dennis and Norma called Charla a problem child now I do want to point something out
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here and I'm not super clear on the details of this and I don't think that they are necessary but Charlo was abused
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when she was young the abuse did not come from Mom or Dad it was sexual abuse so drama queen or Problem Child whatever
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these labels mean right keep in mind that she was a victim and there's a great deal of trauma involved and often
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with sex abuse especially at a young age there's a lot of confusion and that has
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to be even more difficult to deal with all of that as you're becoming a woman on just the punishment from your father
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maybe the son is able to take the punishment a little bit more maybe she was not going to stand for that so when
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they go while she was violent with the father I'd like to know what context that was in because if he was trying to
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discipline her would she really being violent towards him or was she really just defending herself Charla attempted
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suicide in her teen years uh this incident involved a gun now thank God the gun did not go off for whatever
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reason now for Texas folk the woodruffs were not much for guns and it looks like
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at the time of the young lady's suicide attempt that there was only one gun owned by the family
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and immediately after this event and very intelligently of this good man and father Dennis
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gets rid of the gun you can't have that situation in the house when it's putting
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people in harm right so the woodruffs had some money troubles and so did Brandon as an adult and it's
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important as we will see this is the reason that Brandon's parents were in the process of moving during the time
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when the double homicide was committed Brandon was in his first semester of college he is attending Abilene
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Christian University or ACU for short and ACU is not cheap and the school itself has quite strict rules
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as well Brandon is supposed to like even let's say they don't have class on the weekend
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right classes Monday through Friday if he is going to leave campus he has to have his parents call in and get a
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approved dismissal from campus so it's not like a normal campus where you can just come
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and go as you please yeah a lot of the colleges as you know Captain they don't even care if you show up to the classes
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as long as you pay nobody really cares what's going on here they had very strict rules as to curfew and things
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that you typically may not see on most college campuses because of this look most kids when they're 18 19 pretty
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irresponsible and when you first get out on your own away from Mom and Dad you might be exploring who you are or out
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partying a little too much Brandon was missing and failing a lot of his classes now Brandon nobody argues this he is a
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smart guy so it's not an intelligence thing I think it's more likely that it's a lack of maturity on Brandon's part or
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lack of effort right he's failing and dropping classes because he's choosing not to attend these classes he's often
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leaving whether it be excused approved or not for the weekend and there's a there's a club that he likes to go to
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that is all ages it's like 18 and up so I guess not all ages but 18 and up on Sunday nights and on Wednesdays
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he and his friends are typically going to this club late on Sunday nights party until the wee hours of the morning
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and he's therefore missing a lot of his Monday classes and he's getting in trouble for not being on campus the way
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that this works Captain is after he misses several classes they drop him from the class right and he's probably
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not telling his parents because then his parents would expect him to come home but he wants to go out and party with
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his friends and when we say party the word party has a weird you know definition depending on who you
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ask part a right yeah the captain in the colonel usually that means probably a good not just hanging out
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with friends but a good amount of drinking going on and drugs yeah yeah and whatever hookers not so much but
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anyway the the story here is that Brandon does not seem to be much of a drinker and he's definitely not into
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drugs so when we say party he's out dancing and that sort of thing so is it because he's going out partying I mean
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he's not spending money on booze so you said he had money troubles yeah I don't know an 18 or 19 year old
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that doesn't but right I'll give you the skinny of it so what they or whomever is
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calling money troubles this is what I could find in September of 2005 Brandon got a city card with a limit of two
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thousand five hundred dollars on the card he maxed it out in one week then later that same month he got a
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Capital One card with a one thousand dollar limit and maxed it out in less than two weeks okay question what's in
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your wallet do we have contacts for any of this because I think my first credit card was fifteen
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hundred dollars and it was maxed out the first day I used it but I was buying school books yeah these were not school
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books that were purchased it looks to me like a lot of this was clothing electronics and
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um restaurants he was known to be fairly generous with his friends often offering
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to pay well it's pretty easy to be generous when it's not your money right and that that's where I think some of
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this stems from it's you know it's nice to be generous but he's really just being frivolous with the with these uh
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credit cards again Abilene Christian University is expensive it's not cheap how's he going there well he has some
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help from his parents he has a 500 scholarship that he earned from 4-H and he has seven thousand five hundred
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dollars in student loans he gets a thirteen hundred dollar tuition refund this is because he's missing the classes
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so they dropped him from those classes they're nice enough to say all right we're going to refund some of your money
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since you're not taking those classes anymore again this was thirteen hundred dollars
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he spent all thirteen hundred of that cash rather than giving it to his parents and
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it seems that this caused some kind of feud between him and his father Dennis so that that's where I would go and say
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okay that's money trouble to me then the weird thing about the scholarship and this is something that
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we should note is that the 500 4-H scholarship seemed to cause a bit of a feud between Norma
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his mother Brandon's mother and Norma Etherington the mother of Mike Etherington who was
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once Brandon's friend I don't know the details of why there was this feud between the two of them
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over this 500 scholarship maybe Mrs Etherington thought her son was supposed to be
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getting it or deserved it more than Brandon I don't know but that is what has been reported
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a Dennis and Norma Woodruff they had money troubles of their own now they made pretty good money together they
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made about 125 000 a year but they had three hundred thousand dollars in credit card debt
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so they sought the help of a credit counselor in September of 2005 Dennis and Norma
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bought a double wide manufactured home at 5545 County Road 2648 in Royce City Texas
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this was at the advice of their credit counselor and this makes a lot of financial sense because their home where
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they were currently living before making this purchase was in Heath Texas and they were spending about fourteen
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hundred dollars a month plus the property tax for that home the double wide was only five hundred
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dollars a month plus the property taxes as well but given the area of the double
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wide the property tax was much much less there than in Heath Texas but as far as
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the credit card debt goes his parents have tons of credit card debt it's not maybe something that he sat down and
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taught him how to be bad with credit cards but it's something that he obviously saw his parents do and so
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that's probably another reason why it wasn't that big of a deal to him yeah this is something he may or may not
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have known anything about I find growing up my own personal experience has been when I got to be like in my 30s
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I have friends complaining my man my parents are way in debt and you had no idea growing up right you just think
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that everybody's parents makes real they make good money and they make good spending decisions
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it sounds like with their spending with Dennis and Norma what most of the friends and family say is they were all
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about being good parents and trying to give their kids whatever the kids needed or wanted and so it's generally thought
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that they spent a lot of this money on their children raising them and this is credit card debt too it's a slippery
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slope man like you start getting a little bit behind or you get high interest and that debt really starts to
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pile up very very quickly then at some point it's like you don't want to even pay for it because you know you're not
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even paying for that item anymore you're just paying for interest so this double wide is going to save
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them quite a bit of money every single month so it's a very smart move financially
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but it's also not like a penalty you know they're not being they're not putting themselves in
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financial jail here normal was kind of looking forward to this move because the property at the
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new place would be on five acres of land and plus they own horses and they're boarded somewhere else so by having this
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extra land they they'll be able to board their own horses which should save them
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quite a bit of money yes so this this whole move and everything makes a lot of sense now we did fail to set up one very
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important thing in this case maybe it's important maybe it's not to me but for the storytelling purposes
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there are a lot of people that will tell you that Brandon was convicted simply because he is a gay man
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he lived most of his life up until sometime in high school where he was not openly gay he had girlfriends he hung
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out with these [ __ ] kicker guys he was referred to as a cowboy well when he starts to change his
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lifestyle a little bit or realize who he is this [ __ ] kicker buddies don't take too
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kindly to Brandon's new lifestyle and we'll get more into this as we go but it's important to know that from now
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on and now that he's in college we kind of have two things going on here Captain
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some will say that Brandon was leaving that Brandon was living two lives that one was this secret gay life
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where from what I could see yeah it appears that he had two sets of friends and that he was doing two sets of
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activities that were different from one another but I don't know that I would say so much that he had a secret life
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right it actually appears to me that he's in the process of coming out and he's kind of doing it casually and maybe
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slowly he's still a very young man probably still figuring out who he is and what he
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wants out of his life Brandon is though weird about the new house I did find this to be quite
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strange this was something that he had stated he didn't like the location of the new house and he didn't like the
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double wide house itself he is on record having told family and friends that he would never spend a single night in that
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house he wasn't planning on ever living there in fact he would never spend a single night in the new place
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at the time of the homicide here captain the woodruffs still have both properties
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they have the new property that they recently purchased and they have their home their old home in Heath
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they are moving from one house to the other the woodruffs are the woodruffs are staying the night at
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the new house night after night slowly moving in their plan is once they're out of the house and Heath that they will
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either sell it or rent it out fun maybe you just felt bad for his parents and thought it was a little bit of a
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downgrade from what they were used to I think that he thought that it was hillbilly-ish that it was a double wide
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in what he referred to as hickville out in the middle of nowhere and he's now becoming more of this big city kid he's
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spending his weekends in Dallas out clubbing with this other set of friends the thing that we have to keep in mind
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and one thing that is very important to this case is knowing that they still have both of these properties they're in
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the process of moving yet they are staying in the new place now Brandon is helping them from time to time when he's
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not away at College he will help them move things from the heath house to the new house but when he is helping Mom and
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Dad he is often crashing and sleeping at the heath house they still have some animals there he's helping to take care
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of them as well but this is really a slow moving process of filling up Norma's truck or Brandon's truck and one
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load at a time moving to the new home we also have to keep in mind too both of their children Charla and Brandon are
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both off to college at this point so they're kind of downsizing their empty nesters for the first time in their
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marriage better things [Music] [Music] all right we're back cheers mates for those who do not like to drink just
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shake your booty a little bit Shake Your Booty a little bit well we went through
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a lot of the events that were going on in August and September of 2005. on Tuesday October 18 2005 at about 4 pm
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Dennis and Norma Woodruff they would be found dead having been murdered inside their home in Royce City Texas let's go
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through the events that lead up to that horrific Discovery to see who might be responsible for the double homicide or
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the very least who should be on the suspect list right on the weekend of Friday October 14th
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Brandon will be on an approved leave from the ACU campus for the entirety of the weekend this is his father Dennis
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called in said hey my son wants to come home for the weekend and the college approved this leave he will need to be
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back in time for whatever classes he may have scheduled for Monday Brandon drives an older Dodge pickup
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truck and this detail is quite important to the case as well on this Friday Brandon gives a ride to a
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fellow student that he does not know very well his name is Robert Robert is going to Denton for the weekend this is
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a suburb of Dallas so not entirely out of the way for Brandon Brandon dropped Robert off at his girlfriend's place in
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Denton on Friday night fairly late the deal was Brandon would pick Robert up at this same location on Sunday
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evening and then the two of them would go back to ACU to the campus Brandon spent most of Saturday helping
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out a longtime friend her name is Morgan Lee Morgan Lee it said was Brandon's one-time girlfriend
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the two stayed very good friends after the relationship was over that night he hung out until the wee
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hours of the morning with some of his Club friends again we are on Saturday Sunday Brandon wakes up he is at the
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heath house remember he said he won't stay at the new place right now even though he won't stay the night at his
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parents new place he does go over there and he helps with things like unpacking and getting the new place all set up
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a little after 6 pm Dennis Woodruff picked up a pizza for the three of them for dinner that Sunday
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night this is Brandon and his parents Dennis and Norma they're going to have dinner
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at the new place after dinner Brandon left the new house and drove his Dodge truck to the horse
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stables to drop off some medication for one of Norma's horses he then drove to the family's Heath house
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and that was because he says he has permission to drive his mother's truck okay the parents have three vehicles
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I have a description of two of them one of them is a big fancy newer Silverado Chevy truck it's got leather interior it
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sounds like it's fully loaded they also have a Toyota Camry and then the Third vehicle I do not have a
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description for but two of the vehicles are at the new house and this big fancy nice Silverado
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is at the old Heath house his Dodge truck is not in great working order it's an older truck with a lot of
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miles like 140 or 150 000 miles on it because he's been having some trouble with the vehicle with his vehicle he
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says he was given permission by his parents to drive out to the heath house take care of the animals there leave his
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truck and take the nice Silverado back to the college campus and keep it for a few days while his father Dennis figured
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out what is wrong with his Dodge truck so Brandon is on his way to drop off the medication to the horses and I'm
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assuming here captain that this next event takes place after that medication is dropped off so at 7 36 PM Brandon
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calls his mother this is according to phone records there was some a message that he needed
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to relay regarding her horse or one of her horses that's why I'm assuming that this is after he dropped off the
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medication for the horse to the stable yeah from there Brandon has about a 30-minute drive to the heath house
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I've seen this listed as short as 23 minutes and as long as 30 minutes the problem for Brandon
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will become that his timeline does not match up with some of the other people's statements in regards to his timeline
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meaning that there's some minutes and maybe hours that he is unaccounted for to give him the benefit of the doubt I
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am going to use the longer time frames that are listed for all of these events okay so we will say we'll go with the
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longest one that has been stated that it's about a 30-minute drive from the stable to the heath house where
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he has the family's animals to take care of it's also been stated that they estimated that this task of taking care
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of the animals feeding them letting them out and such at the heath house would require about a half an hour to take
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care of all of these animals we don't know what time Brandon left the heath house in the Silverado that's
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always been in question and that in part is why Brandon is sitting in a prison cell today right
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now remember Robert the schoolmate that Brandon was scheduled to pick up on that Sunday
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Brandon spoke with Robert around six o'clock saying that he would pick him up in a few hours the weird thing here
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Captain is Brandon's already late it sounds like according to Robert that they had originally scheduled
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Brandon to pick him up between five and six that day so we're already running late on picking up Robert right but he's
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doing some errands for his parents so that makes sense yeah he may not have known that he needed to do all of these
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tasks and then to top that off look Brandon loves this Silverado truck it's fully loaded it's a million times
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nicer than his yeah he very likely did not know that his parents would be generous enough to let him borrow it for
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a couple days while his truck that doesn't run so good would be out of commission one is a good reason to be a
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little late oh if I'm a little late I get a way better vehicle for the next week I'll take that trade any day and
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again the Silverados at the old house so there's no getting that vehicle without
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going to the old house so you're you're right there lock step with me my friend where we can we can see the reasoning
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for him being late at this time Robert calls Brandon around well not around I have the exact time 9 49 p.m
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this is because Brandon was still not there yet to pick him up Brandon asked if Robert could catch a
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ride and meet him at the Denny's this is not to get anything to eat it's just meet me in the parking lot at the
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Denny's it's about a halfway point from where you are Robert and where I am we're already running late this is going
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to save us some time around 11 o'clock 11 p.m Brandon is at the Denny's this is at
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9009 Skillman Road in North Texas again he's running late he's been running late
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all day long and now he's even later than expected Robert says all right I met you at the
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Denny's but you were still late getting here what's the problem Brandon says I'm
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late because I got lost that's as much detail as we have of an explanation as to where Brandon was right
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before going back to the college campus Brandon and now Robert who's riding shotgun
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Brandon decides hey I want to go out this is Sunday night I go to these clubs that are all ages or 18 and up
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and I have my group of friends that I go with Robert do you want to go out and go
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clubbing before we go back to the college campus Robert agrees to do this and so now they are going to go to a guy
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named Alex's place and he is in Plano Texas and from there a group of guys including Robert and Brandon will go
00:36:36
clubbing and they leave for the clubs a touch after midnight according to everyone and they're back at campus by
00:36:43
Monday morning a Monday was a pretty typical day for Brandon he hung out with his friends at
00:36:49
College went to lunch with several of them this is followed by Tuesday which again was typical both of
00:36:57
these days normal days with the exception of a few things one Brandon's sister Charla called him
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and said that she had been unable to get in touch with their parents she is away at College as well she's a
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junior at Southern Arkansas University roughly a three-hour drive from the Royce city house
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she lives on campus in an apartment with some roommates she's in a sorority she's
00:37:22
working a part-time job busy girl and she's got a horse of her own that is boarded nearby her campus
00:37:31
living situation she's calling and saying look I speak with our parents daily while away at school and I haven't
00:37:39
been able to get a hold of them this is on Monday Brandon tells her I'm supposed to have a call with them
00:37:49
sometime tonight so she's calling Brandon Monday evening been trying to get a hold of mom and dad
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since 11 pm the night before Sunday night right which is on right she says it's even more odd because I
00:38:04
not only do I speak with them daily but this was a scheduled phone call right but you but we know that they're
00:38:12
moving and they're doing some stuff and at some point they have to get their horses moved so there is a lot on the
00:38:17
parents plate is it possible that they just fell asleep early not so weird that you can't get a hold of them during the
00:38:24
day because there'd be two different locations they could be at or obviously work but come that second day you're
00:38:32
going okay something's up here yeah and there's going to be some phone calls that were made by the wood roofs
00:38:39
and I mean the parents Norma and Dennis on Sunday night that will help us really
00:38:45
kind of hone in on what time frame we should be really looking at here but this scheduled call that was to be
00:38:55
at 11 PM on Sunday the way that this works Captain is Charlo was away visiting extended family
00:39:04
on Sunday evening she is at her grandmother's house this is Norma's mother her mom's mom
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while she's there and the grandmother says this is right around 9pm she is on the phone with Norma with Charla's mom
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to which she says to Charlotte would you like to speak to your mom I got her on the phone
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Charla says no I will call them when I get home so that's the what I mean by the scheduled call of 11 p.m that night
00:39:37
right Brandon tells Charla on Monday evening don't worry about not being able to get
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a hold of them as he is expecting a phone call from Mom and Dad between 10 30 and 11 p.m that night on Monday
00:39:55
he says I'm sure it's nothing I'll talk to them later tonight and after I get off the phone with Mom and Dad I'll give
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you a call so that way Charlie will know everything is all right she's just unable to get a hold of mom and dad for
00:40:08
whatever reason right Charlie says that she never heard back from her brother that night he doesn't call her like he
00:40:17
said he would that's suspicious says that she went out with some friends that Monday night and she does say that
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she kind of forgot about the call from Brandon okay so it's possible that he called and she just didn't answer no I
00:40:32
don't think that it is because they've really tracked down a lot of the phone records or but what is he saying is he
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saying he called and it's just not registered anywhere no it's I couldn't find it to be
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registered anywhere I don't know that he said that he was going to call her those
00:40:51
are charlo's words right but she goes on to say she kind of forgot about the call but never heard
00:40:58
from Brandon that night she goes out with some friends again she's in college and she admits she went out and got
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pretty drunk that night when she gets home that night she's now concerned she's like oh I
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still didn't hear from Mom and Dad and I didn't hear from Brandon so a little buzzed
00:41:19
or you know drunk as she put it she's kind of drunk dialing mom and dad at two or three in the morning trying to get a
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hold of them she said she at this point didn't care if she woke them up or she didn't care that she was drunk and they
00:41:34
would probably know it you know from her calling it that that yeah I mean at that
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point who cares and your parents would understand like look I couldn't I couldn't get a hold of you I called my
00:41:44
brother he was going to try to get a hold of you I never heard from him I don't want to drive all the way out
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there so I'm calling the experience from the phone go back to bed talk to you in
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the morning I couldn't get an exact number here Captain but it sounds like she called them three or four times that
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night and sometime in the hours of 2 30 to 3 in the morning again no luck Mom and Dad don't pick up
00:42:08
the phone their phone system is something we should discuss as well because the way
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that it sounds to me is that they have three numbers okay they each have a cell phone
00:42:20
and the home the new house has a telephone number as well from my understanding and they use the
00:42:27
term for this and I failed to put it in my notes but if you call let's say you call the house it will
00:42:35
ring to all of their phones all right right or if you call Mom it will ring to all of the phones and whoever picks up
00:42:42
first yeah the Rings this is called uh call forwarding okay so that makes it even a little more
00:42:51
strange Charles says and I'll back her up on this I agree with her that it's diff she should have no problem getting
00:42:58
a hold of mom and dad with that type of phone setup and it sounds like the woodruff's had that mainly because they
00:43:04
have two kids who knows what they may need and when they may need it right so you're just telling me that she tried to
00:43:10
call them once when she was drunk dialing like you say three or four times is Charlie's statement and I think there
00:43:17
are some not that I think there are phone records that back up that statement and she also called her
00:43:23
brother and and he never got a hold of him either right so now we're we're to Tuesday
00:43:29
October 18th that morning Charla does not have any classes scheduled so she's got the the
00:43:36
day free she's going to spend a good deal of the morning trying to get a hold of her parents
00:43:43
she says that at some point around lunch time she tries calling her parents at their work
00:43:50
this is when major fear sets in she learns that her parents who both had good jobs and both were very
00:43:56
professional people they were both absent from work a no-show at work both missed work on Tuesday and both of them
00:44:06
missed work on Monday as well and even more alarming neither of them notified their employer that they would
00:44:14
be absent Charla notifies her aunt of this situation now the aunt is Norma's sister
00:44:22
she's been trying to get hold of Norma as well nobody can get a hold of these people yeah the aunt's name is Linda
00:44:29
Matthews and probably at this point you're probably thinking they should call well
00:44:35
they should call a wellness check with the police right so what we have going on here
00:44:40
Captain is just that we have and this is from some court documents so forgive me
00:44:46
if it sounds a little legally uh Todd Williams told deputies that on October 18 2005 that approximately 3 15
00:44:57
in the afternoon he received a phone call from Linda Matthews the sister of Norma Woodruff asking that he go by
00:45:06
their residence and check the welfare of Norma Woodruff and Dennis Woodruff Todd Williams stated that Linda Matthews
00:45:14
had attempted to call her sister and never received an answer when she called Todd Williams stated that he
00:45:22
Todd Williams stated that Linda Matthews gave him Norma woodruff's address he asked his friend Ron Allen Merritt to
00:45:32
travel to the house with him he says that when they arrived at the house he found that all of the doors were secured
00:45:40
and there was no answer at the door when they knocked so Todd Williams calls Linda Matthews back and says hey all the
00:45:48
doors and windows seem to be secured there's Vehicles here I'm not getting an answer knocking on
00:45:55
the door what do you want me to do she tells them can you figure out a way to get inside the house
00:46:02
he decides to get a chisel from his truck and using the Chisel he pried the screen off of a window located on the
00:46:11
north side of the residence near the carport and then pry to open the window Todd Williams stated that he was able to
00:46:19
gain entry into the residence and stated that after gaining entry into said residence he walked through the kitchen
00:46:26
and into the living room and found both Norma Woodruff and Dennis Woodruff deceased
00:46:34
he stated that he exited the residence and he called The Hunt County Sheriff's Office to report their findings
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