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a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] [Music] hello can I help you yeah so I just got
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home from work and uh my wife wasn't there which is unusual and my kid should have been there by nothing like big hair
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so I was like oh maybe she went on a walk I couldn't find her so I called the daycare to see what time she picked up
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kids the kids were never picked up so I got freaked out so I hit like I find my iPhone happening and it said that her
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shorter phone like at our end of our driveway we're not really good service okay not the end of our driveway P
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anniversary but just drove down there and I saw her phone with her headphones because she started running again and it
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found her phone it's going hair ripped out of it like in the headphones so I'm like totally freaking out thinking like
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somebody liked it watch this grab her okay what's your address ready okay what's your last name yes poppy knee PAP
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I and I in your first name Keith ke i th yeah okay did you go pick up your children's you know I'm gonna call my
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mom and have her do it okay what's your wife's name I'm gonna like you knock on every door Jerry
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that's HDR RI I'm saying last name yeah she white female yes what's her date of birth it is June 11
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1982 is her vehicle there does she not have a vehicle she has a vehicle's at the help ok the vehicle is running how
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ok I'm in it right now driving and I took a picture of her phone on the ground before it picks it up okay how
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tall are you 5 the Reese by 4 how much does she weigh how'd it go I color uh like ass blue okay hair color
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blonde did you know what she was wearing there know each other I'm assuming she went running political okay there's
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nothing else that she always wears or anything like that she run with a dog or by herself by yourself okay what time
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are the kids are running again and we live in it when's the last time Superman when's the
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last time you heard from her she sent me a text asking me if I was coming over for lunch what time I don't want to miss
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[Applause] one give me one sec she sent me at 10:47 afternoon I was coming home from lunch
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from work and I said sorry long day and that was the last you never spoke to on the phone never okay and what time are
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the kids supposed to be picked up Wade before 5:30 he really goes are like 4:45 4:30 4:45
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[Applause] okay you have it back to the house or where you out right now I'm at the end
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of the drivers who were on that big old Oregon Trail sunrise where they meet that's right where I found her phone on
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the ground telling me that something happened to her way I'm looking at it there's like then there was hair like in
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the headphones I think I've ripped off it like the grass and I and I understand I understand sir I know you're
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connecting the commonality yeah what kind of vehicle are you in I'm gonna black the off the month
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oh yeah and I live I mean we live down kind of sketchy Street so I definitely I don't know if I'm allowed but knock on
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the right door but I will on the left let's just having it officers contact you so they can start you know
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processing everything figure out what's going on okay okay I understand you're freaking out a little bit we want to we
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want to make sure we get your kids make sure they're okay yeah I'm gonna call my mom and house
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yeah yes do you want me wait right here for later if you want to head back to your
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residence so they can contact you there and in case she does return okay okay well I'm sure residents call us back if
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anything changes all right all right they're gonna call the number you sit down they'll probably call you when
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they're on their way and they're gonna come out and first okay okay thank you you're welcome
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okay right [Music] that call came in to Shasta County California sheriff's office on Wednesday
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November 2nd 2016 at 5:41 p.m. now the caller identified himself as Keith Pappy knee he comes home from work to an empty
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house his wife and kids should have been there well he does not say on the 911 call but was later reported is he did
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try to call and text sherry but received a no answer later he finds his wife's phone and headphones he finds this about
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a mile away from their house at the intersection of sunrise Drive and old Oregon Trail there is hair to which he
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says appears to have been ripped off of her head he reports her missing obviously his wife is sherry Pappy knee
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date of birth June 11th 1982 she's 5 foot 3 inches tall 100 pounds she has blonde hair and blue eyes Keith went on
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to tell 911 found Sherry's car at the house and that he drove her car down the road to search for her and the phone
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while the 911 operator was asking questions about sherry Keith interjected that he took a picture
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of the phone as he had found it he said he had no idea what sherry was wearing but assumed running clothes he
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reiterated that she had just started running again Keith told the operator that he last
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heard from sherry when she sent him a text asking if he was coming home for lunch this text received by Keith at
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10:47 a.m. now the kids were supposed to be picked up between 4:30 and 5:00 p.m.
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he says so sometime between 10:47 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. something happened to Sherry where was
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3rd four-year-old Cheri poppy knee she was nowhere to be found and her iPhone was
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disturbingly left on the side of the road near their home yeah not only did Keith call his wife and Texas wife to
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say hey where are you I can't find you he also called the kids school and said hey what time did my wife pick up the
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kids and then they replayed she hasn't been here to pick up the kids so this is super weird everything as he describes
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it very unusual he's expecting to see his wife he's actually fearing that she's been grabbed as he says it now the
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call came in just shortly before 6 p.m. and the police were at the Poppy knees mountain gate home at 6:30 p.m. an
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official search got underway a helicopter searched the area using a night spotlight patrol cars drove around
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the area the Shasta County Sheriff's Office investigators they blocked off this area where the phone was found and
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they're looking for any clues that they can find as to what could have happened to this woman now there is a photo
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available online of something found in that area that police labelled with a number three evidence marker it's not
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clear what it is but it looks like a black and pink belt or fanny pack of some sort
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fancy police have never addressed this item publicly Keith and Sherry's sister Sheila both made very public tear-filled
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pleas for the safe return of their wife and sister billboards went up with Sherry's image the community came
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together attending prayer vigils and balloon releases a $50,000 reward was offered for information leading to
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Sherry's whereabouts 10 thousand dollars of this which came from the secret witness organization and the rest of
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which was raised by supporters of the family yeah and this is a pretty large sum from this organization this secret
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organization but they said that when they saw the pleads on TV that they said we have to help we have to do something
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yeah it's a secret organization it's just in the title secret witness organization so the
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search captain really turns up nothing all they really come up with here is the phone the headphones that are attached
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to the phone and as the husband says hair that is attached to the hair the headphones it appears to have been
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ripped off of her head yeah he also makes the claim that he took the picture of the phone before he touched it I
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don't know if it matters if I believe him or not but I actually don't believe that statement I know that he showed a
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photo to the Sheriff's Department of the phone itself but again it seemed it seems like a weird thing to do just off
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of just general instinct I think I would naturally just grab the phone and pick up the phone before thinking to take a
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photograph of it yeah I don't must assume that somebody would have to pick up a phone first to figure out if it's
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their wife's phone you know I mean like you couldn't just tell from right and if
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shocked you're like oh you would grab it to verify that is it is in fact her phone right like and then you're like oh
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my god should we address the 911 call first before we get too far into the search for Cherie yeah because I mean we
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just played it so it's on everybody's minds the first thing I want to point out here is for people not familiar with
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this case I have seen Keith and other interviews and so where you hear him on the the 911 call a couple times you hear
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him kind of laugh I think that's more of like or like a giggle I think it's more
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of a like nervous tic yeah that he has it's it's not you know he's not being light of the situation in fact he's the
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one pushing the issue that he believes that she was grabbed so ignore the the giggles because he kind of just does
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that and then you'll also hear the the the heavy breathing or the exhaling that's another thing that I've seen him
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do in several interviews as well it's you know he's he stressed out but also you've said about the situation yeah but
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he was in a panic to try to find her he drives down to there where they get their mail and then he's
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running around outside the car trying to look for any clues of his wife I don't find it odd a lot of people find a lot
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of things odd about the 911 call I actually find very few things strange in the 911 well if you don't understand his
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natural demeanor I think he would but like you said watch a couple more interviews get to know the person and
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then I think the 911 a lot more sense yeah yeah and I mean I don't find it strange that he assumes she's been
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abducted or grabbed as he says it I don't find that strange in the least bit some people point to
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that that you know he kind of jumped to that conclusion rather quickly phone is on the ground right right the the only
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thing I find strange about the call is where he says several times that this she started running again it's almost
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like it's almost like too much information and repeated again and again as if you're really trying to sell that
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idea but she did though because her family was gonna run in some local charity run mm-hm and uh and so she
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started running again and some people point to his statement or his question rather to 9-1-1 where he asked if he's
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allowed to knock on the doors of of people in the neighborhood again I don't find that to be strange because what I
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what I get the general sense I get from Keith in his communication with 900 is he's trying to tell them that he needs
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help that his wife is missing but he's also trying to be very upfront and very cooperative almost like you know 911 is
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the expert or here I don't want to do anything that's out of turn I don't want to step on anyone's toes I don't want to
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knock on doors and then the police show up and go well why the hell did you knock on doors the reason why I think
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people find that odd is he brings it up and he gets cut off by the dispatcher and then he brings it up again almost as
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if it was like rehearsed you know or had some script and you cut me off from my script so now I got to go back to my
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script or she just didn't answer his question right and he brings it up again so what we know here is that the call
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comes in and really they truly find nothing when they go looking for sherry now the day after she went missing on
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November 3rd the Shasta County Sheriff's Department gave a press conference this
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would be one of the very few times that the Sheriff's Office would make public statements regarding this case
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sheriff tomba Senko pledged that he would not generally release new information while the case was being
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investigated now he confirmed finding Sherry's earbuds and phone near her home he said that the Sheriff's Office was
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checking with local registered sex offenders there were four men living within a mile of the poppy nee home that
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were registered sex offenders and hundreds more in the surrounding areas you know the sang Co also said that
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about two dozen search and rescue personnel were combing the area around the home and the search would be
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expanded as needed he emphasized that sherry Pappy nee did not have any physical or mental health conditions
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that would explain her disappearance and that there were no history of calls for
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major incidents at the poppy knee home news articles from the early days of the search simply state that Sherry's family
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believed that she was abducted while she was out jogging now one thing that makes
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this case frustrating and difficult to cover is the lack of reliable information available really the
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information that we have the only information that we have other than the tiny bit addressed by pasang Co at the
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press conference comes from two people Sheila Coster who is Sherry's sister and Keith poppy knee Sheila and Keith both
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gave numerous interviews to major sources like People magazine in 2020 man Keith in particular is very very
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publicly visible bringing awareness to his missing wife's case by making the rounds of the various news shows right
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but we've seen that before with the Christopher Watts yeah so let's take a quick look at who the poppy knees are
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okay captain what do we know about Keith and sherry yeah well they both grew up in Redding California this is an
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overwhelmingly white conservative religious community party Keith and sherry were childhood sweethearts
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they met in seventh grade according to Keith and then later reconnected as adults yeah I believe the big thing that
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you see it reported over and over and over is they they kissed one time in seventh grade apparently Keith kept all
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of the notes that they passed between the two of them when they were in middle school yeah he seems to be very enamored
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with his wife he talks constantly about how beautiful and perfect she is and says that he is head over heels for her
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sherry had been married once before and there is some question as to whether she
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was married when she took up with Keith yeah there's some weirdness there now regardless the couple the couple had a
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fairytale wedding in 2009 and the couple has two children violet and Tyler ages two and four now there are lots of
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photos and family photos online of both the couple and the family sherry is quite striking with very long
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almost white looking blonde hair big blue eyes and a big smile kind of like the poltergeist girl all grown up
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she was this is one thing that's kind of confusing here captain and it's very unclear she was either working part-time
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for AT&T and/or staying at home with the kids yeah or she had recently quit working at AT&T it's it's it's a little
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tricky yeah it seems like most reports state that she was a stay-at-home mother the two kids they were enrolled in
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daycare this is a couple days a week that they would attend this daycare yeah now
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sherry like to dabble in arts and crafts and she was active on her Etsy and Pinterest accounts keith was an
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audio/video specialist in the Geek Squad at the reading of Best Buy from what it
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looked like online he's probably making about fifty to sixty thousand dollars a year now the two owned a two-story home
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this is the home that they lived in in the community of mountain gate it was actually Keith's childhood home it is
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not believed that that they owed any money on this home apparently they purchased it for a hundred and twenty
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eight thousand dollars from Keith's parents now they also had two cars Sherry's friends and family all describe
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Sharri as a super mom who always likes things to be perfect whose kids were angels and who could make a mean pie
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crust from scratch Keith's mom and stepdad lived nearby and were very very involved in their daily
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lives Sherry's parents lived in Arizona well how about you take us through the day
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she went missing well as as we said most of what we know about the day that she went missing
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November 2nd 2016 this comes directly from Keith Wright he says he left for work around 6:50 a.m. and sherry was
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there at the house to see him off sherry dropped the kids off at daycare as usual
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sometime between 8:30 and 9:00 a.m. he told the 911 operator that sherry texts him at 10:47 a.m. to see if he was
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coming home for lunch he says he didn't have his personal phone on him while he was doing an installation so he didn't
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respond to her until 1:30 9:00 p.m. we don't know if this was a regular thing meaning for keith to go home for lunch
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right but i do want to point out that the best by where he worked was a 20-minute drive from his house so it
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seems like this was very likely a not not a regular thing little strange right well yeah I mean if you consider that if
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you if you get an hour for lunch let's say you're gonna spend 40 minutes of that driving you know to and from my
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guess here is because he does do installations that he may come home if he happens to be doing an install
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somewhere closer to his home yeah that makes a lot of sense yeah that that's kind of what I'm guessing and so I'm
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guessing that's probably not a regular thing for her to text him either are you coming home for lunch this might just be
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a one-off now or happens once in a while or it's one of those things that if he's
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don't come home don't come home yeah I got a boyfriend over no but it could be one of those things where he's out on
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service calls a lot oh and so it doesn't matter where he's at he just goes home for lunch because it's hard for them to
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track his whereabouts there are reports that sherry was seen at an eyebrow salon
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at the Mount Shasta mall that morning and at a Michaels craft store uh-huh and as some of the items she
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purchased at Michaels were found at their house but this is kind of a weird statement that I found amongst these
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things not all of the items were found there is what one report states okay I don't know what that means they don't go
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any into any detail there yeah well I'd like to see a detailed list of woes Bob Keith also said that it appeared that
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that sherry was in the midst of wrapping a Christmas present for him this was a homemade US flag pillow which was found
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partially wrapped again here's the thing we don't know if any of this is actually
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correct as none of it has been verified publicly by law enforcement we also know
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that there are several neighbor witnesses who believe that they saw sherry heading out on a run that day the
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problem is that none of them agree as to what time they saw her so neighbor John
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platinum night but night platinum or whatever okay back to our missing person case captain
00:31:36
there was a GoFundMe page that was set up this was immediately and it was started by Sherry's family yeah now we
00:31:45
find a little more information there it says that they believe that sherry was last seen on Sunrise Drive at
00:31:52
approximately 2:00 p.m. and she was either jogging or walking alone they also point out that jogging or walking
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alone is normal for her again I find it odd that the family keeps talking about how normal it is for her to be running
00:32:12
just seems again it just seems a big I think above and beyond but I think it goes back to the fact that her family a
00:32:20
bunch of members were gonna run into in this race and they were gonna wear costumes or something and was gonna
00:32:26
raise money for something so I think it's I think it was something that was on their mind although their minds and
00:32:34
they're all training for this event mm-hmm I just find it weird that they keep pointing out how normal it is to be
00:32:41
Wow yeah and I kind of find it a little weird and I think a lot of people find it a little weird that you started
00:32:46
GoFundMe page right away yeah I don't know about that for me it's just weird the way that they a phrase that kind of
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stuff it's like like if I disappeared like he was last seen driving which was normal for him he was very it was very
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normal for him to drive places it's it's not like last seen walking he normally walks with his legs right we're not
00:33:09
talking about some abnormal behavior we're talking about jogging or running you know it's mine would be like they
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found him with a beer can in his hand and his pants down but that was normal for him
00:33:21
see that's abnormal behavior you would need to point out that it's normal for a person or for that person to have doing
00:33:29
that that's just where I'm going with that now she was last seen wearing a running top now one of the family
00:33:36
members did post a picture of this top online it was a black and pink running jacket
00:33:43
remember Keith wasn't able to give a description of what she was last wearing because he wasn't home at the time that
00:33:50
she stepped out to go jogging yeah and just like you pointed out a little more clarification here Keith told police
00:33:58
that sherry was in the process of training for an upcoming Thanksgiving Day Road race and that he believed she
00:34:07
was heading out for a run that day and then abducted by someone while she was out there now much of what happened when
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Keith got home we heard from him on the 911 call he says he pulled into the driveway expecting to see his son come
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running out found no one in the house and he tracked Sherry's iPhone to near the mailboxes where he then drove after
00:34:33
jumping into Sherry's car I'm on this how he did it was they tracked my phone app correct so some people point out
00:34:43
here if it's weird that he switched cars you know no one's really sure why he got
00:34:48
into her car after just arriving home in his car yeah I want to point out a couple things here it sounds to me in
00:34:57
the 911 call that he is saying that he's expecting to find his wife and kids when
00:35:02
he goes looking for her phone using the Find My Phone app I'm just wondering if they only had car seats maybe in her car
00:35:12
and so he he you know very mindful of this he jumps in her car to go retrieve them that's one thought I have the other
00:35:21
thought I think by this point he's probably already called the daycare and and asked as my wife picked up the
00:35:28
kids yet could be we don't know that to be to be the case I'm just wondering why
00:35:33
why anybody would do this why somebody would switch the cars there seems to to me there there's either a reason for it
00:35:42
or it's just just a complete weird thing here yeah so my other thought would be is if if it was just as simple as those
00:35:52
were the first keys that he saw and I'm only kind of circling around this captain because I've seen several people
00:35:58
point out that they think this is extremely strange and bizarre that he chose to take her car regarding the
00:36:05
official search for Cherie sheriff Passaic Oh acknowledged early on that the circumstances of her disappearance
00:36:12
seemed to be suspicious but he said that Sherry's disappearance could be voluntary but it also could be
00:36:19
involuntary yeah he said law enforcement was proceeding with an open mind and they continued to investigate all angles
00:36:27
including the following checking with family friends and associates of Sherry's looking at surveillance video
00:36:35
from local homes and businesses they did this they found nothing they were checking local motels and hotels they
00:36:43
were looking into the family's finances Sherry's bank cards and her license were
00:36:49
found in their home they were poring over cell tower data and phone records and social media accounts they were also
00:36:59
canvassing the neighbors and speaking with people in the area as we stated they were checking on registered sex
00:37:06
offenders in the area apparently there are about 900 in that County mmm flaky flaky they were
00:37:14
following up on more than 400 tips and supposed sightings including one highly publicized sighting of Sheri at a truck
00:37:23
stop that turned out to be a case of mistaken identity yeah hold on because I love the report that some lady thinks
00:37:31
it's her so she goes up and says hey Cherie is this you and the lady seems absolutely confused
00:37:38
so they reported that she went up to sherry and sherry was completely confused right it's just like well yeah
00:37:46
she was really confused because it she's not sherry there you go there you go they were also reviewing missing-persons
00:37:53
cases from around the nation to determine if any of them were possibly related to Sherry's case now
00:37:59
investigators filed 20 search warrants although it's not disclosed exactly what they were looking for with these
00:38:07
warrants but the Shasta County Sheriff's Office officials discovered that sherry
00:38:12
had been married before and they checked in with her ex-husband his name is David
00:38:18
Dreyfuss aged 32 at the time he was living out of the state of California yeah so he didn't live anywhere close to
00:38:26
her and in fact he had not had any contact with her as far as police could find and about six years or more
00:38:34
yeah the two filed for divorce papers in September of 2008 this was less than a year after they were married by the time
00:38:45
the divorce was finalized in January of 2009 sherry was living with Keith now searches for sherry continued with the
00:38:53
search parties combing the woods and police following up on tips but one strange thing led people to scratch
00:39:00
their heads in this case very early on this is sheriff pazenko brought in search dogs to track Sherry's scent but
00:39:08
they didn't hit on anything as he told CNN quote the dogs didn't hit on anything which makes it a little bit
00:39:16
abnormal he goes on to say and now it's almost ideal weather conditions we've had it's in the fall here on the west
00:39:26
coast in this area so it's a little bit cooler and we've had some rain but and that helps too for the scent conditions
00:39:33
and the dogs didn't hit on any scent if sherry had run or walked from the house to the mailbox area her scent should be
00:39:42
it should have been detected by these trained canines okay now a family friend might listen let's ponder this first
00:39:51
so what you're saying is that she gets dressed puts her running shoes on she takes off running that the dog the dog
00:40:02
should have followed the scent down the driveway out to the road mhm and they don't hit on anything nothing do they I
00:40:12
mean I'm guessing that they hit on her scent in the house yeah so here here's where this becomes a big problem and
00:40:22
that's why I was very quick to point out in this case we're trying to present all
00:40:27
the facts however the the facts quote-unquote facts that we have come from Sherry's husband and from her
00:40:37
sister regarding law enforcement they spent a lot of time investigating this disappearance however they can say me
00:40:46
they've not said much publicly in what they have released it's like they choose to release some things and then other
00:40:52
things they're not commenting on again with with the dogs not finding a scent we know that that happened because
00:40:58
that's what the sheriff said publicly what I'm wondering remember we have her husband who says it
00:41:05
appeared like she was wrapping gifts at the house right and I found a gift that was partially wrapped and it's the
00:41:13
family it's her family that are saying she was out jogging and she was abducted well we we have possibly eyewitness
00:41:20
well we but again that I read people that say that they saw her outside that day nobody's saying that she was
00:41:27
abducted when they saw her I also think if she was training if it was so normal for her to be out running by herself
00:41:35
that some of the people that could have saw her it could have just been mistaken
00:41:41
on which day they saw her yeah what would get into the neighbors in a little bit but one thing I want to throw out
00:41:47
there is a possible theory again the only people that we have saying that she was out jogging and she was abducted
00:41:56
while she was out jogging is her family what what if they're just wrong yeah what if she was actually you know
00:42:03
the dogs aren't going to law - you people lie these dogs aren't going to tell a lie
00:42:09
so unless there's just some weird reason that the dogs aren't effective I that I
00:42:17
do get that but what I'm questioning is is there a chance that she was actually abducted from the home and that the
00:42:23
phone was just later tossed out the vehicle window by her abductor right or bye-bye you know her for whatever reason
00:42:33
at all I think what they're doing is finding the phone is leading them to believe all she was spotted outside a
00:42:39
couple times we found her phone it was normal for her to run she was abducted while she was jogging which just might
00:42:45
be wrong we have a family friend and this is Mike Mangus he was a local reading news anchor at the time he was
00:42:55
the one that managed to get the story covered on Good Morning America remember we said the family was really trying to
00:43:02
get this story out there and their family friend Mike helped this get on a national level yeah well it never hurts
00:43:10
cases to become popular when there's a pretty girl gone missing right so we have a whole bunch of stuff going on and
00:43:18
in the wake of all of this we have sheriff pazenko who admitted to People magazine that quote there were no real
00:43:27
viable leads and quote in this case and then he tells KRC our TV they reported basically the same thing this report
00:43:37
came out on November 17th that no credible information has been learned relating to Sherry's disappearance he
00:43:44
goes on to say I know the family believes that she was abducted we don't have anything to lead us that way nor to
00:43:52
dissuade us that she wasn't abducted in any way in other words it sounds like law enforcement was kind of clueless as
00:44:01
to what was going on and they were a little bit upfront and public about that now for people that are not familiar
00:44:07
with this case the weird thing that we're trying to point out here is law enforcement seems to have some question
00:44:15
about this disappearance about woman going missing whether it was voluntary or involuntary yeah and if it
00:44:24
was voluntary is somebody else is anybody else in on this whole hoax if it was involuntary who else is involved in
00:44:33
this real kidnapping you know on November 15th 2016 TV kobi5.com involved in the effort to
00:44:45
find sherry which by now had consumed hundreds of man-hours despite this reporting sheriff pazenko
00:44:52
felt the need to address the FBI's involvement he did this on Tuesday November 21st saying that people were
00:45:00
asking him why the FBI was not more involved and he said quote we have bulletins out statewide nationwide and
00:45:09
mrs. poppy nee has been entered into nationwide computer system for missing persons other agencies are assisting the
00:45:18
Shasta County Sheriff's Office such as the Redding Police Department as well as the FBI it became clear that the FBI's
00:45:28
role was simply one of assisting with an investigator or two and providing the resources of its cellular analysis
00:45:38
survey team but the Shasta County Sheriff's Office their Major Crimes Unit they were in charge of this
00:45:45
investigation just to be clear so more than two weeks after sherry vanished the SC s stated that sherry was considered a
00:45:57
missing person at risk with suspicious circumstances and another confusing angle the California Department of
00:46:07
Justice initially categorized Sherry's disappearance as voluntary missing adult rather than missing at risk labeled by
00:46:16
the Sheriff's Department according to local media there's a local media outlet reading calm missing at risk essentially
00:46:26
means there's no evidence of a crime yet but there's also no history of leaving the home or any
00:46:32
else to indicate a person's disappearance was willful Sherry's family said that sherry would never ever
00:46:40
leave her children voluntarily in their minds and an abduction was certain now regardless of theories sherry was gone
00:46:51
there was no doubt about that but there was no ransom demand and neither the poppy knees nor their extended families
00:47:00
none of them were wealthy and this was this was released by the sheriff now the only evidence of an abduction was the
00:47:08
phone being found by the side of the road by Keith himself and sheriff pasang Co told 20/20 quote it looked like it
00:47:16
could have been placed there along with the ear buds being placed on top of the phone screen the phone it seems didn't
00:47:26
look as though it had been roughly pulled out of Sherry's hands her headphones jerked out of her ears and
00:47:32
dumped there instead according to the sheriff the the headphones were neatly positioned on top of the phone as it lie
00:47:42
on the ground now Bassano said on the Today Show the phone had been set in some grass with the screen facing up and
00:47:51
then the ear buds to the phone were loosely coiled and appeared to have been placed on the screen it did somewhat
00:47:59
appear to be that it was placed there purposely he goes on to say quote we believe it was a few pieces of her hair
00:48:08
that was there with the ear buds and the phone I have nothing really to add to this
00:48:15
captain it's these are statements by the sheriff if he thinks that it looks like
00:48:19
somebody could have neatly placed it there I'm gonna have to go with that statement I didn't find the phone the
00:48:26
the phone is is weird in itself because that's the indicator that she was taken outside of the home and what we know
00:48:33
about the phone again like everything else goes back to Keith and what keith is telling us about what happened that
00:48:41
day but again we have the dog scent evidence that possibly she did not run out of the house mm-hmm
00:48:50
naturally like with any investigation the police took a hard look at Keith now whether he was considered a prime
00:49:00
suspect at the time they always do really would depend on whom you would ask pasang co stated that Keith had been
00:49:09
100% cooperative he handed over his computer the family's computer phones and records with no hesitation he had an
00:49:18
alibi we know he was at work that day Keith's stepfather rod Rodriguez who had a very active social media presence in
00:49:28
this case posted online defending Keith he said Keith had been interrogated numerous times and had an alibi verified
00:49:37
by the GPS on his work vehicle he also never lawyer dup had his whereabouts confirmed by cell phone tracking as well
00:49:46
and provided the police total access to the home and cars without a warrant on the night Shari vanished I look all that
00:49:55
seems good but remember what his job is he's an expert at technology he's a geek
00:50:03
he's a geek he's on the Geek Squad yeah so if you take offense at that he shouldn't have signed up for the Geek
00:50:09
Squad now he also handed over all of his electronic devices this is where I find
00:50:18
something of very strong importance I believe to this case and it's something that we typically don't like captain but
00:50:26
we have a statement and this comes from the sheriff himself says Keith took a polygraph on November 7th that lasted
00:50:35
according to 20 24 hours oh that's a long cast gods head sucks so he took a polygraph test on November 7th and
00:50:48
sheriff pasang Co told 20/20 that Keith passed this lie detector test and the Keith was not a suspect in the
00:50:56
disappearance of his wife yeah now we know that Keith but what don't we like about that though
00:51:02
cuz I like that well no no I like four hours I like that whole thing but but we often say that we don't like polygraph
00:51:09
test I don't like him coming out saying that he's not a suspect I mean I'm I'm glad you took a polygraph test you're
00:51:17
doing everything you can hey we got the husband let's try to roll him out it's normally the husband so get
00:51:24
him to take this long and depth polygraph test he passed I'm not making statements -
00:51:31
maybe the cops are making statements that he's not a suspect anymore because they don't want the heat on him through
00:51:38
social media and through the media hmm maybe that's the case because there's a lot of times that the wife goes missing
00:51:44
and the heat on the on the husband gets pretty bad yeah and I'm guessing that not just the lie-detector test
00:51:54
but all things encompassed in their investigation I'm guessing that what the story he's telling them they have no
00:52:03
reason to believe that he's being dishonest they have no evidence to suggest that what he is saying or what
00:52:09
he believes to be true is not the truth and I think that's where you get the he's not a suspect type okay now Keith
00:52:17
gave an interview to People magazine on November 10th so this stuff is all happening very quickly as it should in
00:52:26
this case but what we're seeing that we don't always see in these types of cases
00:52:31
are very public on a national level moves to interviews and things like that this is on the 10th keith says that
00:52:40
there was no way that sherry left on her own accord he said she is my wife I know
00:52:46
everything about her I know that my wife would never leave me and never in a million years leave our kids after
00:52:54
almost two weeks official searches for Cherie ended and the family felt that they needed to take the situation under
00:53:04
their control Sherry's friend Lisa Jeter contacted a man whom she had seen speak out about
00:53:11
human trafficking in the area this man was reading native Cameron gamble gamble called himself an
00:53:19
international kidnap and ransom consultant he was a former Air Force senior air man and now trained military
00:53:29
law enforcement and private citizens on how to evade an escape capture gamble believe that sherry had been abducted
00:53:37
and asked Keith for permission to try an aggressive approach to getting sherry back it's not really clear how this all
00:53:46
came about gamble says someone put him in touch with an unnamed man who offered to donate money to act as a reward
00:53:57
payment to whomever returned sherry safely a sort of reverse ransom if you will the anonymous donor offered to put
00:54:08
up $50,000 to pay off the captors if they released sherry twelve days after sherry vanished gamble posted a video of
00:54:18
himself making the offer and speaking directly to the captors saying quote I've been retained by an individual who
00:54:26
wishes to remain anonymous an individual who has come forward to offer a cash reward for a ransom for sherry Pappy
00:54:34
knees safe returned to her family I don't know your motive I don't know who you are I don't care
00:54:41
I simply care about getting sherry back gamble said the money would be paid upon
00:54:47
Sherry's release without law enforcement presence and with no questions asked as
00:54:52
for the anonymous donor he initiated the website sherry Papen e-comm and posted a
00:54:59
note to the Redding police in Shasta County Sheriff's Department that said please don't threaten me I have received
00:55:06
legal counsel and what I am doing is within my rights according to Cameron gamble the video
00:55:13
went viral now when that failed to flush out the perpetrators gamble posted a second
00:55:19
video on the day before Thanksgiving November 23rd 2016 say that the reward was now off the table
00:55:29
instead if they didn't let sherry go the donated funds would be added to the reward fund already established to pay
00:55:37
anyone who came forward with information leading to Sherry's abductors essentially putting an approximately
00:55:45
$100,000 bounty on the abductors heads as gamble called it in this video he says quote the world has been looking
00:55:54
for sherry poppy nee and now the world is going to be looking for you [Music] [Music]
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also many twists and turns and speculations to get to in part two and we know that you could be anywhere but
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you're joining us here in the garage and we thank you and we love you and we'll be back with part two tomorrow
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until then be good be kind and don't let it [Music] [Applause]