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time that a terrible crime happened inside the Lulu Lemon Store on Bethesda Avenue Friday night a timeline released
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by police indicates employees closed the store at 900 p.m. then set the alarm and
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locked the door at 9:45 at 10:05 p.m. two female employees returned to pick up a forgotten item that's when two men
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wearing ski masks and gloves entered behind them another employee found the victims when she arrived to open the
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store at 8:00 a.m. Saturday police think it was a crime of opportunity a robbery
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that turned into rape and murder 30-year-old Jana Murray is described as a valiant fighter who would not have
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hesitated to protect herself and her 27-year-old coworker who was beaten but survived the crime scen may hold the
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best leads police have at this point we are still in the process of collecting physical evidence and doing forensic
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analysis My Hope Is that um in the next few days uh we may get additional leads uh as a result of that forensic analysis
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the attack in the heart of downtown Bethesda has residents and the business community on edge you need to understand
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this a very close-knit Community even though it's uh on the edge of urbanization and and in many ways is
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growing so much it remains very close and uh it [Music] hurts detectives were collecting evidence from
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the Lulu Lemon Store from a robbery that resulted in the sexual assault of two young women in the murder of one now the
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forensics that they're finding at the store here Captain they have the surviving victim the surviving witness
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who told them and we went through that pretty detailed in yesterday's show how this attack went down the issue here is
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they're starting to find the detectives are starting to find things at the store
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that are not necessarily lining up with the surviving victims story and the account of these attacks and murder well
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so detective Dimitri is coming up with some theories thinking that maybe there was two suspects um that came in that
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knew Britney and maybe she just knew them or maybe she was in on this but let's go through a couple items that
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don't make much sense well one item Captain that's not going to play towards this new theory of an inside job and two
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guys coming in to carry out this attack is that detectives found only two sets of bloody shoeprints in the Lulu Lemon
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Store now one set of these bloody shoeprints belong to Britney right the other came from a a size 14 men's shoe
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Reebok tennis shoe mhm well that shoe was found in the Lululemon store yeah and it was cleaned off yeah so the way
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that the way that this works is we have Bloody Footprints over portions of the floor of
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this store now it it was so obvious to the detectives that the shoe they found one set of men's shoes in the store it
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was Reebok size 14 tennis shoe mhm they said that the pattern was unique enough on the bottom of this tennis shoe that
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it was obvious you could look at this shoe and know that that created the print that you're seeing on the floor
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below you yeah and if you have a crime scene that's covered in blood and you have two male attackers why aren't there
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two sets of footprints so to back up this theory that these shoes were worn during the of the attack or at some
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point before uh Britney was found in the store they they did find a little bit of
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blood on the the shoes right however they believed that the shoes were at one point much more blooded than that and
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had been cleaned off that someone had washed the soles of the shoes and evidence pointing to that was that they
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had bloody Footprints bloody shoe prints from that size 14 that led up to a sink and I believe it was the bathroom
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sink that you could see the bloody shoe prints walking up to that sink and then there they never leave that sink well
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right and they never leave the store yeah so it's almost like somebody took them off at the sink washed them and
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then put them away and so if we have two guys that came into this store whether Britney knew them or not now you're
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talking about for some reason they they removed their shoes and put on different
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shoes and one of yeah one of them put on a size 14 men's shoe either during the the attack or
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shortly afterwards wash the shoes and then replace them on wherever they were being kept yeah left them in the store
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but the these idiot attackers too uh attacked their victims with 8 to 10 objects that were found in the store and
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they left all 8 to 10 objects mhm and and then you have this situation where you know Britney's found alive but she's
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kind of found in a weird situation yeah so she is like we had said she's bound um like zip ties
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somebody had used zip ties to bind her ankles together and then her wrists together right now when she's found
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she's found lying on the bathroom floor and her arms are above her head yeah so let's think about this for a minute this
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means that her arms are not behind her back she's bound with her her hands in front of her now one question that I
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found and I found this very interesting because this this kind of kicked everything off from me was one reporter
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that was reporting on this story on Saturday when they were found stated in their report it's
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unclear why the surviving victim did not call for help or did not leave the store
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the thought that this reporter had at the time was that possibly Britney was unconscious that she had been knocked
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out during this attack Well normally these stores are set up in a way where you have your front entrance and those
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are nice and Posh and they look nice for the customers but then you normally have
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like a back Alleyway where you would have a dumpster and stuff like that and normally those back doors if you push
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against them and you open them especially when the alarm is on that the alarm would go off mhm so these these
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attackers attacked both of you your coworker's dead now you're laying there for I don't know 8 hours 10 hours and
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you you know you could push yourself up by your hands even though you're bound you're bound with your hands in front of
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you she could have got to the point where maybe she couldn't have made a phone call but she could at least push
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that door open well I wouldn't think that the alarm would be set at this point well but it but it might even if
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the alarm is not it may trigger it anyway I see what you're saying yeah cuz some of those are where you have the
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sign that says if you open this door the alarm will sound right um yeah I see what you're saying she could have given
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her injuries she could have very likely have I don't know if she would have been
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able to flee out the front door let's say being tied like that and and injured I really feel like I it it looks
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strange to me that she couldn't crawl to a phone talking about a very athletic person we're talking about somebody that
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had got scholarship through her skills being a soccer player we we also we know that her um wounds are not super deep or
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life-threatening we also know that she was a couple weeks away from becoming a a trainer so again a very athletic
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person I think this person could have easily got uh to help on some level later one of the the First Responders
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that Saul was first to see Britney and to respond to her being lying there injured on the floor they said that when
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they encountered Britney's body she did appear to be unconscious at this time okay but when this first responder knelt
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down to tend to her when they touched her she flinched in in a manner that made the
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first responder believe that she might have just been lying there with her eyes closed that she was not in fact
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unconscious the other problem too is we have this the car scenario yeah we talked about Jana's car was was found
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about three blocks away from the Lulu Lemon Store we have Britney's vehicle that is found in the parking lot where
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it's expected to be right in front of the store so how did how did Jana's car get from the Lulu Lemon Store to that
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three block location right and I wondered if maybe that's just where it was parked initially but law enforcement
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are going to find blood inside the car yeah so and I and I had theorized that possibly the offenders use the vehicle
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to flee to drive themselves to their vehicle that they would eventually get in or to flee from that area right but
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we have no surveillance of that we have no surveillance of that and then the other troubling thing is they do find
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some items inside the car that are of evidentiary value it's the blood the the problem with this
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is they're only finding blood that belongs to the two victims so we have Jana's blood inside her vehicle and we
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also have Britney's blood inside of Jana's vehicle now when Jana was interviewed initially about this they
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were asked about her car about Jana's car what do you know about it um where would you expect it to be she said that
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it was parked right in front of the Lululemon store she had never been ins side of Jana's vehicle according to the
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interview she also said she only saw the vehicle maybe once yeah so so giving a vague description of the
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vehicle is it out of bound here here's the thing that you have to wonder now Captain with what is found in the
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car are you starting to wonder maybe there's not other offenders we have one set of shoeprints of of an offender the
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shoes are found in the store right but law enforcement has surveillance of two men that match the description that
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Britney gave so now we got to track down these guys now they track these guys down come to find out that they're they
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cleared them they had no involvement in this attack whatsoever yeah these men actually belonged in the area they
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worked they worked there in this business district and they they're wearing all black because that was their
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uniform right right a lot of like servers or no even some stores you know they have some stores have colors that
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people are supposed to wear um so I I don't I can't tell you where they worked I don't remember but um and as they're
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doing forensic evidence now we got another big problem we have claims again from Britney saying that both women were
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raped or at Le you know sexually assaulted now there's bruising on both victims but there is actually no
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evidence of sexual assault yeah they couldn't find conclusive evidence to confirm that portion of Britney's story
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so now we got some problems well yeah cuz everything's going to kind of shift gears here because what we're seeing is
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at this point in the investigation is we have Britney Norwood who was once a considered a victim she's starting to
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come into clearer Focus as possible or likely suspect in this case yeah so we have we have some issues here because
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the investigators the the detectives are going to be speaking with Britney quite
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a bit now in the beginning they're speaking with her because she's the the Lone Survivor she's the surviving
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witness she is the person that's going to be able to provide you with the most Clues the most evidence the most leads
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to find the perpetrators of this attack well as she starts to be go go from victim to suspect they're still talking
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to her they're still interviewing her the problem is it's it's going to shift a little bit and they decided that one
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thing that they needed to do you know sometimes with with these with victims of of a traumatizing situation like this
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to put it lightly I guess is it may take a few days for things to become clear to
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them you know they've been through a lot they've witnessed a lot they've experienced a lot it could take a few
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days so as these days continued and as these interviews continued the detectives they tried to get a little
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more they try to get a little more information from the interviews that they have with Britney you know they
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were asking her very specific questions by this point asking her things like you
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know what were the possible weapons that these guys used and based off of what weapons they Ed were you able to
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determine if the asants could have been right-handed or left-handed yeah did either of them speak with an accent did
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either of them at any time mention you know accidentally say a name or a nickname to to one another right what
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was Jana doing during the attack what were you doing during the attack so very specific questions because here's the
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thing that they start to figure out is that early on when they needed information from Britney she has a story
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to tell and we went through that the problem with that story is when you push and when you prod her for more
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information it either seems that there is no more information or she's unwilling to give that information to
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the detectives right now one thing that the detectives did and this was a pretty
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smart Ploy on their end is you know from time to time these interviews have taken
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place off off of their Turf let's say we know that the first interview took place
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from a hospital bed when Britney was in the hospital I believe they spoke with her at her home home at one time they
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wanted to get her on their Turf they wanted to kind of put her in the hot seat so to speak so that either a they
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could get answers to these questions and find out more about these attackers or B
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get answers about these questions and point the finger at her because at some point you have to stop treating her like
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a victim and start treating her like a suspect right if the evidence is pointing you in that direction now what
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they did was they contacted her and they asked her if she would come down to the
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police department because they needed her to submit things like hair evidence and fingerprints things of this nature
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so that and what they told her is that you know we need to be able to compare your information to things that we're
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finding at the crime scene so we can rule those prints and hair out and maybe we we're able to find prints and hair of
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the offenders yeah she she does go down to the police department to speak with them and and Supply them with that
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evidence what that leads them to is an interview that takes about an hour and a half where they're able to kind of Grill
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her a little bit this is when they inform Britney that Jana's vehicle was moved during the
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attack we know that her vehicle was moved that night and now the big problem we're having with her vehicle being
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moved is that your blood was found inside the car now why would we find your blood inside the car I'm sure she's
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probably going to give you some kind of information that maybe the blood was on the attackers and they had tracked the
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blood into Jana's car what do you know about Jana's car I think she slipped up and gave them a little more information
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you had said earlier she said I I believe I've only seen the vehicle maybe once right and it looked like this the
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trouble here is she gives them a little more information they are putting her when they're talking to her when she's
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sitting across the the the table from them they are putting her constantly putting her in that vehicle and that's
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where the questions are going to be routed that's what we're going to try to the picture we're going to paint for her
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is we can put you in that vehicle now explain this away please right she leaves the police department
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mhm and some time goes by and I believe it might actually have been a day or two
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goes by but eventually her sister her older sister contacts the police department and says you know
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Britney has some information that she has not told you regarding the attacks and she would like to talk to you about
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this okay she goes back down to the police department and she explains to the officers that it was in fact her Britney
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that had moved Jana's vehicle H she states that the asant instructed her to move the vehicle now I've heard
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several different reasons why this vehicle might have been moved but the the one that seems the most consistent
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is that Jana's vehicle may have been parked illegally remember we said that they returned to the store that night
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right so she could have parked in any number of spots that might have tipped somebody off that something was wrong or
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would have caused some kind of alarm she could have parked in a handicap spot or
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or there she was double parked where she just thought well I'm just going to park
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my car real quick by the curb and run in and we're going to be done and then there therefore the vehicle would need
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to be moved she states that the as salant wanted this vehicle moved they instructed her to to move the vehicle
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and then return to the Lululemon store yeah but this vehicle's moved about three blocks away so one you could have
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taken off and and and went to the cops yeah I guess they had her wear like a a hat or something to kind of Disguise
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herself to move this vehicle make sure you're back here shortly you know 10 minutes get your butt back here or we're
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going to kill you yeah so here's here's a huge huge you want to talk about poking holes in the story let's talk
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about ripping the damn thing open mhm this is a this is a huge problem for her story for several reasons one according
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to her version of the attack and how it went down Jana was attacked immediately and pulled off into the back of the
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store while this is going on Britney is attacked in a different location of the store she talks about how her attacker
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is using racial slurs and cuts her stomach okay so at what point during this attack Britney do you just are you
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fine enough to get up and leave and and and move the vehicle and Jog back to the
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store yet 8 to 10 hours later your injuries that you sustained are are bad enough that you're unable to crawl to a
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phone at any point or crawl out of the store you know it's just not really lining up at this point because what she
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states is that she's threatened if you don't come back here we're going to kill you oh by the way we know where you live
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We Know your name we know some things about your family right we can do damage to
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you it's just not really lining up here is it captain no and we're going to it's
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not going to line up to her brother and sister either because her brother and sister are with her so Britney's brother
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and sister are at the police station they're hearing these stories they're hearing the questioning and I think they
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start believing that hey maybe my sister had something to do with this yeah I don't know if she requests to speak with
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her relatives or think brother requested to speak with her oh like hey we I want
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to go in there make sure she's okay yeah but I also think he we got I do want to
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I know we're kind of pointing a big finger at Britney here but I do want to point out that from everything that I've
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read regarding the Norwood family this is a close-knit family big family respectable family very good people um
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and we have a brother saying hey I'm concerned about my sister I want to go in there and check on her to see if
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she's okay yeah and like you said she's in there Britney is in there with her sister and her brother at this point
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they're talking and I think the brother and sister have a lot of questions for Britney yeah and I don't think they're
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really liking what they're hearing or maybe more importantly what they're not hearing from Britney yeah and I think at
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one point her brother says did you do this I think Captain she might Britney might have been in handcuffs at this
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point because she's already kind of spoken with the detectives her stories falling apart we got the relatives in
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there now I think she keeps on saying that she wants to leave so at that point they actually have to either arrest or
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let her go ARR and then so I think they cuff her to the table and then they read
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her her rights yeah and at one point you know so they're in a room at the police
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station and obviously the police are listening into the conversation between the brother and Britney and at one point
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in the conversation he does ask her direct directly did you do this and Britney looks at his at her brother and
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we need to point out here Captain to make this downright clear is we're back we're yes we're back uh when they have
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Britney in there for questioning yeah and both when the detectives are speaking with her and when her brother and sister
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are speaking with her she's not at this point denying that she did anything wrong yeah you know there she's asked
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did you do this or we think that you moved the car because you killed her we think that this happened we think that
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that happened and she's at this point she's broken down and she's not she's not saying yes I did Kill Jana but she's
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not denying it either yeah I think at this Point her lies are catching up to her and she's trapped so she is
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ultimately arrested she's arrested that day as you had said and she's going to be charged with the first-degree murder
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of Jana Murray now so what in fact happened the police have the police have a theory on this and they're going to
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break it down as such that on that Friday the two women were working together at the Lulu Lemon Store right
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when it came time to close and after they had locked the doors and finished their closing duties well this is a
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retail story store and and Lululemon their their procedure is such that that each employee checks the bag of the
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other employee we only have two people left in the store at this point I used to work at Pack Sun and this was very
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common if you were closing up the shop with the manager that if they had a bag you had to look through their bag if if
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you had a bag they look through your bag and then you You' check that off the list and and then leave the store
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mhm and so when they when Jana goes to check Britney's bag there are a pair of yoga pants in the in her
00:31:15
bag now these pants run about 100 to I think 150 bucks maybe more M yeah these are not cheap pants right so when when
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the this discovery is made Britney has an explanation these I paid for these I purchased these earlier today right so
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then the question is where's your receipt yes I don't have a receipt can't find it well well that's no problem
00:31:41
let's just log back onto the computer and we'll see the sale of the day and then we can go about our way but they
00:31:48
already logged off their computer so they claimed that they couldn't log back on but it might have been one of those
00:31:53
things where it was like ah we already logged off for the day we can deal with this tomorrow now the problem is that
00:31:59
Britney has been accused of stealing before at you know or suspicious of stealing at the other Lulu Lemon Store
00:32:08
that she used to work at she also was I think kicked off her soccer team for which she had a scholarship for because
00:32:16
she was stealing from other players lockers so she kind of has a history of this yeah so now uh and the one of the
00:32:25
main reasons that she was moved from another store was there was this customer discount day where you get
00:32:31
everything off 70 some per and you're only supposed to get a certain amount that you're allowed to buy so up to a
00:32:38
certain dollar amount yeah like 300 bucks or something like that a lot of employees took advantage of this and and
00:32:47
spent more than they're supposed to and a lot a lot of employees so much so that
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they're like well crap we can't fire all these people and replace them so let's just say okay well you guys made a
00:33:01
mistake we're going to tighten up our restrictions but we're going to transfer you to different stores so I think all
00:33:08
the managers were probably saying hey any of these employees that were moved to other stores we got to keep an eye on
00:33:15
them well yeah so there so there's good reason for her being transferred to this
00:33:20
new location now I have read a few reports that state that there was money that was missing from this Bethesda
00:33:28
Lululemon store that's once Britney started working there things were coming up missing whether it be clothing items
00:33:35
or actual money right and so hypothetically if if there was money missing five times from this store or
00:33:44
the cash register came up short five times the only employee that worked all of those days was Britney so much so
00:33:54
that they were thinking about installing cameras on the inside of the store because they wanted to catch whoever was
00:33:59
doing this and like you said Captain they were pretty suspicious that they knew who it was a who actually was
00:34:07
responsible they just couldn't prove it they didn't have any evidence of such so
00:34:12
on that night these these pants are discovered in her bag and as the captain said they couldn't log back onto the
00:34:18
computer to prove that that sale actually took place so Britney is going to need someone to vouch for her and she
00:34:26
says oh so and so was running the register and sold me these pants well Jana takes this as at face value and
00:34:36
says okay that's fine uh they close up the shop and upon leaving Jana calls this other employee
00:34:46
and ask her to confirm Britney's Story the employee says I did not sell Britney anything so these are stolen pants yes
00:34:54
Britney stole these pants and attempted to leave with them hoping that you know it's a Friday maybe they'll rush out of
00:35:00
there um and and she'll forget to check my bag yes and then Britney being caught
00:35:08
basically she's walking into her car thinking well now I'm going to lose my job and apparently she was up for some
00:35:16
job that she had desired quite a bit as a personal trainer or something at a at a higher end uh fitness center I I'm not
00:35:25
really certain of those details but the thought is that if being caught stealing
00:35:30
and getting fired from Lululemon in transition was going to carry over to her not getting this job that she had
00:35:37
been fighting to get right so she's caught that night and what does she do she she comes up with this story of oh
00:35:45
I've left something in the store now you can go down a couple different Avenues here with with this portion of the story
00:35:54
but what I've heard is is that she remember she had to contact another employee to get Jana's phone number
00:36:03
right she gets janaa back to agree to meet her back at the store and from here you can take it one of two ways either
00:36:11
Britney had already determined that she was going to attack Jana or at some point she's telling her hey look if you
00:36:20
if if you tell on me for this um I'm going to lose this job that I've been trying to get I'm I'm going to be here
00:36:27
another couple days anyway right um yeah maybe try to plead with her just you know hey show me a little sympathy and
00:36:37
this all can go away and I'm guessing that um this is a tough situation CU I've been in the situation where I've seen a
00:36:47
coworker uh stealing or you've seen somebody I'll break it down like this uh you've seen somebody that you like yes
00:36:55
do something that you did didn't expect them to do that you know is wrong is what you're saying right yes and then
00:37:01
and so actually what happened was it was another teller we're both on the line bank teller you were a bank teller and I
00:37:09
look down and I see the other bank teller pulling money from his pocket and putting it back into his cash dra wait
00:37:18
that's like the opposite of how these things usually work he's making a donation to the bank and he then
00:37:25
realizes that I see him and I say and he kind of looks at me like oh [ __ ] and I
00:37:32
said right to him right then and there I wish I didn't see that because now I I have to say because one we have all
00:37:40
these cameras and it would be pretty easy for if he gets caught doing whatever he's doing for them to see that
00:37:46
I was right there watching him do it right so then I went to my boss and said this is what I saw and they suspected
00:37:53
that this guy was taking anywhere from 5 00 to $1,000 at a time and maybe that money would be missing for a couple days
00:38:02
and he was gambling with this money and then when he' win the money back he would put it back so it's still right
00:38:11
right yeah you can't do that you're not allowed to borrow money from the bank uh
00:38:15
just because you work there so I could see the manager saying well look you know I still have to report this and I'm
00:38:23
sorry and and and maybe that's what happened but then an attack happens well and
00:38:30
actually by this point but before the attack takes place Jana had already reported this this theft to her higher
00:38:39
up right from a phone call so yeah so even if Britney's pleading with her and saying don't turn me in it's a little
00:38:47
late I already turned you in she might have said you know I am sorry but I did call my manager regardless the result is
00:38:55
that Britney attacks Jana now this attack could have taken it I've heard from from what was presented at trial is
00:39:04
that this attack would have taken a minimum of 20 minutes this was a brutal attack you pointed out how many wounds
00:39:11
how many injuries there were to the victim over 300 multiple weapons used during the course of this murder well
00:39:20
multiple I mean that might be the right word but it's like 8 to 10 different weapons that's that's nut
00:39:27
yeah and it's it's believed that that Britney would pick up one weapon attack the victim with it and then at some
00:39:34
point Retreat off to another area of the store to exchange weapons to almost use
00:39:41
something else on her yeah and a lot of people think that she was enjoying the attack and enjoying to see what
00:39:50
different items would do uh I don't know if that's necessarily true I think maybe
00:39:55
they're could have been a it's possible that there was a state of panic and she's going this a this is not working
00:40:01
mhm at some point during the course of this attack Jana almost escapes she because we would later find
00:40:11
blood evidence to suggest that she almost made it out the back door right to set that alarm or at
00:40:19
least yeah after the attack after Jana is killed we then have Britney who is concerned about this vehicle being
00:40:27
parked illegally out front of the Lulu Lemon Store right so she according to this plan that she kind of just came up
00:40:36
with she's got to move this vehicle she moves the vehicle three blocks away and then returns to the store now I've read
00:40:45
several several reports that state that they they believe the investigators belied that she remained inside the
00:40:52
vehicle after moving it for an hour to an hour and a half almost like holy crap what do I do I've
00:41:00
got to come up with some kind of plan here I I've got to cover this thing up now right and I think that's when she
00:41:06
came up with the plan of I can make it look like I was attacked as well so then she goes back to the store at some point
00:41:15
well I don't want to be too gruesome but you know like we said there was 300 and
00:41:19
some attacks on Jana and with hitting her with these 8 to 10 different objects that wasn't working so at some point she
00:41:27
goes all the way across to like we said she would go somewhere else in the store
00:41:32
to find some kind of tool or weapon and then at some point she finds a knife and
00:41:37
then she stabs her twice one in the head and that's pretty much how she died but
00:41:43
then as she's sitting in this car and she has to come up with this plan then she decides when she goes back that
00:41:49
she'll have to cut um Jana's Jana's pants so yeah because she needs to now stage some type of sexual assault on
00:41:59
this victim so she cuts a hole in the pants that Jana is wearing right these slits down the side and one report that
00:42:08
I read and says that she molest the body after death and I don't know the details
00:42:16
of that nor do I care to but I imagine it's another it's it's additional staging that she's doing to to present
00:42:23
the crime scene in the manner that's going to go along with the story that she's eventually going to tell the
00:42:29
investigators right and so once she does that and that's all done so that part of
00:42:34
the uh plan is stage then she goes and finds these shoes that were male shoes that
00:42:41
sometimes it wasn't men using these to try on but you know women sometimes would use them cuz they could slip them
00:42:46
on and off real quick while they're trying on the different pants mhm so she finds these shoes and then she walks in
00:42:52
the blood and she walks around the whole store well like we said law enforcement
00:42:57
finds the shoes in the store and they've been cleaned and there was no tracks lead leading out of the store but the
00:43:03
other problem too is that now that we know that she is probably the person that did this they test the shoes for
00:43:10
DNA and it's Britney's DNA inside the shoes right so now that part of the plan was staged and now she has to cut
00:43:19
herself more mhm and she cuts herself on you you know like we said the chest and
00:43:24
the legs and she has to then cut her pants and then she has to basically assault herself mhm you know her private
00:43:33
parts and and so that's you know so she can claim that she was sexually assaulted as well I mean these are
00:43:42
psychotic actions and then she has to tie herself up with these zip ties and because she can't zip tie herself behind
00:43:50
her back she does it through the front and then she has to lay basically in blood for 10 hours M and wait for
00:43:59
somebody to to find them there's also some question marks regarding Britney's injuries so we said that she had a cut
00:44:07
or bruise to her head and hand and then we also mentioned the breast the stomach
00:44:13
and the legs apparently it's believed that the breast stomach and legs those injuries were
00:44:19
self-inflicted that the head injury could be self-inflicted or it might have been Jana trying to defend herself fight
00:44:29
off her attacker the hand injury is actually believed that maybe one of the weapons
00:44:35
that she was using whether it be a box cutter or a knife that when she was using this Implement of murder that it
00:44:44
had slipped and it she had cut herself during the attack well that that was her only severe injury yeah and and because
00:44:53
probably it was a box cutter or something and like you said if if that box cutter is covered in blood your hand
00:44:59
slips right off and then you cut yourself yeah and you said only severe injury meaning it was the only one that
00:45:05
was severe severe enough to require stitches right the other cuts to her required no stitches right so obviously
00:45:13
all the murder weapons were found that came from inside the store yeah but so did the zip ties and what they realized
00:45:21
to law enforcement realized that it'd be this would be a very difficult thing for attackers to find in the store yeah
00:45:33
these are were not items that were just lying out in the open well this thing's going to go to trial captain and really
00:45:40
as far as the trial's concerned what we see in the trial is not so much a declaration of her being innocent yeah
00:45:48
it's not so much that it's think of the charge she's charged with first-degree murder that means this is a premeditated
00:45:55
attack yeah so the and the mountain of evidence here is pretty undeniable so she is going to plead guilty well guilty
00:46:05
in the sense that her defense all right they don't put up a whole lot of Defense meaning they they
00:46:11
don't jump out and say look she didn't kill Jana Murray right they're just going to argue that it's not first
00:46:18
deegree murder it's second degree cuz there's no premeditation hoping that she will get convicted of a lesser charge
00:46:24
receive a lesser sentence because in their words in their opinion Britney lost it right when when when she got
00:46:32
caught stealing when she didn't know what else to do when she was confronted by Jana that she' lost it and killed
00:46:40
this girl now here's the thing though Captain there there were a few thing I mean there's always multiple things that
00:46:47
upset you about these cases but but besides the fact that a young vibrant woman that was going to be something in
00:46:55
this World got killed an innocent victim got killed there were some other things
00:46:59
at trial that that were rather disturbing to me and the first being that the defense implied that there was
00:47:06
some kind of fight meaning like a mutual fight broke out between the two women right it's not a mutual fight that's
00:47:13
called self-defense dick knows well I well here's the thing it it actually looks to
00:47:21
me like like Britney Blitz attacked her that she was that it was a sneak attack right that Jana didn't know what was
00:47:29
going on she was struck probably from behind or as she was turning around to what I'm getting at is that this is kind
00:47:37
of taking the victim's families and kind of rubbing their nose in it when you go
00:47:41
when you go you know what your the victim here was somewhat responsible for their own demise not responsible at all
00:47:49
there was no fight here this was not a mutual fight between two women this was one horrible woman attacking another and
00:47:57
killing her viciously killing her yeah and the argument was is that the argument is was there premeditation well
00:48:07
it depends on how you view premeditation but maybe she didn't think about it before she got back to the shop but then
00:48:14
she knew that she was caught and then a fight broke out and then she hit her with something but then you kept going
00:48:21
and you kept stopping and finding new weapons to attack her with and then you had to move her car and then you sat in
00:48:28
the car for an hour maybe an hour and a half and then you came up with this other plan and then you basically Abus
00:48:35
their their corpse I mean how how much time has to pass before you stop doing what you're doing you know what I mean
00:48:44
right that they said that the attack would have taken at minimum maybe 20 minutes okay so you had every second of
00:48:51
that 20 minutes to stop that attack and furthermore so not it is premeditated at
00:48:58
some point because according to Marilyn law premeditation only Tak seconds right
00:49:05
so once you continue to continue to hurt this person to inflict damage upon them
00:49:10
you are choosing to take their life and then second of all people wondered well she must be crazy if she lost it like
00:49:18
this she only got caught for stealing who who takes a petty crime and covers it up with murder well she's not crazy
00:49:26
as far as the laws concerned she might be crazy to the point where you don't want her living next door to you right
00:49:32
but she's not crazy in the eyes of the law because she spent the rest of the night covering it up she knew what she
00:49:39
did was wrong and as she was doing it she knew that it was the wrong thing to do the other thing that that ticked me
00:49:46
off here captain and I know this got to you as well and it didn't really come up
00:49:50
until the trial itself but they had to call people they had to call call witnesses to testify to things that they
00:49:59
had heard and these were people that were working at the Apple Store or in the Apple Store as uh customers yeah and
00:50:08
the reason being is that these people actually heard through that wall words being exchanged they heard screams they
00:50:16
heard some of the attack right and yet none of them did anything yeah uh this is one that's
00:50:25
weird and I know a lot of people that read this story or have seen this story on on different shows and stuff that
00:50:32
that this really upsets them I the problem with me judging any of these individuals is I don't know what they
00:50:38
heard I don't know did they hear one scream and that was it you see what I mean no I get it I I totally get it and
00:50:48
there's something that uh because even the judge as he's handing out the sentencing he he talks about these
00:50:55
people that worked in the Apple Store and how how awful they were and it's like but but I don't know what they
00:51:01
heard I mean sometimes you know you go outside late at night you hear something that sounds like a couple
00:51:08
gunshots you know it was presented at trial so the judge knows what they heard right we we don't know what they heard
00:51:15
but the judge as you as you said the judge was he came down very hard on these people and and had a lot of words
00:51:23
for these individuals I mean if you multiple screams and you didn't call the cops I mean at least call the cops
00:51:29
because even if it's nothing okay well better safe than sorry but if they would have called the cops uh they they could
00:51:35
have saved her life I mean I I don't think this attack took place in 20 minutes I think this attack took place
00:51:43
half hour 45 minutes at least I'm saying an hour mhm and and then on top of that
00:51:48
it's like you know so you could have got law enforcement to stop the attack but then you could have rushed her to the
00:51:54
hospital and and possibly saved her life well I'll say something in the defense of the people at the Apple Store so
00:52:01
there is something this is this is a scientific study um there's something called the bystander effect which this
00:52:09
what they State during this is that when people hear possible danger but they know that other people are around so
00:52:17
this this works out in this situation here they're in a super safe area they're not expecting to hear or see
00:52:23
violence when they're out that evening so when you hear something that's strange or you see something that's
00:52:29
strange and there's a lot of other people around individually with inside ourselves most of us will make the
00:52:36
assumption that if something is truly bad if something is really bad that someone else will call right and then in
00:52:44
in in transfer of that what ends up happening is Nobody ends up calling yeah you you just got to look everybody heard
00:52:51
that so you hear a scream you see an accident call what's the worst thing that could happen they got a couple
00:52:59
extra calls about something that happened well and it's it's a huge mistake on their
00:53:05
part that that nothing was done that nobody made a call this attack like you said 45 minutes an hour that could have
00:53:12
changed that could have saved This Woman's life if somebody would have called responders could have arrived to
00:53:18
the building in time yeah so the the key thing is and police would tell you the same thing you see something call you
00:53:27
hear something call that's what you see something say something right yeah and I so I mean my thought
00:53:34
final thoughts on Britney is that again she's not psycho as far as you know the laws concerned but I think she is I
00:53:44
think she's a psycho you know well she got the she got the sentence that she deserves so Britney Norwood wood is
00:53:53
currently in Maryland's only female prison this is Maryland's correctional institute for women and Jessup uh which
00:54:02
is between Washington DC and Baltimore and under the terms of her life sentence she received a life sentence under those
00:54:09
terms she can never be paroled yeah and that's kind of what they argued for they
00:54:15
wanted to give her some kind of hope you know like give her the possibility of PE
00:54:21
and and I applaud the judge for saying look I'm not going to give you that and I don't I don't want to give you hope
00:54:27
people like you should not be on the streets yes that was Britney's family that wanted to leave her with some form
00:54:35
of Hope but I wanted to bring up something that was brought to trial during the sentencing phase and this is
00:54:42
by Jana's Father David remember we said that he was an officer in the Army yeah and he told the judge you know I've been
00:54:53
in combat situations I've seen young men that have had to bloody other people and the first time
00:55:02
it's very difficult the second time it gets easier and the third time even easier after that if you let this woman
00:55:11
get parole and someday let out of prison then the same would be true for Britney
00:55:17
Norwood this individual must be removed from society forever thanks everybody for joining us here in
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00:55:38
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