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discussed the four knife or blade attacks all in the Little Rock Arkansas Area tragically three of them resulting
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in the victim not surviving the attack now after this fourth attack resulting in the third homicide in our case Little
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Rock Police Department notified the public that they have reason to believe that the same individual has committed
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all of these attacks someone a Serial offender a serial killer is walking the streets of Little Rock at night hunting
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humans under the cover of darkness and because the identity of this man responsible is unknown this will cause
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the media the public medical professionals and even those in law enforcement to create a name for the
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killer well you always got to give an idiot a fake name so here is a list of the monikers that have been bandied
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about in this Little Rock case you have the Little Rock serial killer that seems
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fitting you have the River City Ripper this one I guess might be more attention grabbing but not to pick at nits here
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but traditionally a ripper yes uses a knife or a bladed weapon in the attacks but often will
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dissect a portion or mutilates the victim's bodies and with somebody like Jack the
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Ripper sometimes even removes an organ or two from the body for what purposes well until the Killer is identified we
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just don't know one aspect of that ripping that I find intriguing is that sometimes even when the Killer is
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identified we still never learn why he does this the removing of an organ or organs most times you can chalk that up
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to signature and we'll get into some of that as it relates to this case but that's like what we talked about with a
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killer like Charlie Brandt Who removed the victim's Hearts yeah one sick SOB but you'll find that the killer does not
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sometimes does not tell us why he does this and in some cases may not even know themselves why they remove a piece of
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the victim yeah and like we've said before in the past like we should give these killers more appropriate
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names like instead of giving them these cool villain names Little Rock douche canoe is who we
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are looking for yeah I was thinking like string bean [ __ ] there you go cuz you know 63 that's a and he's a thin 63
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and while the River City Ripper has like a good ring to it again not to nitpick but I don't think it it fits because our
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killer here is simply carrying out what would appear to us to be these Blitz attacks like almost
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random running on the streets finding someone with a blitz attack a blitz C type attack Fast and Furious and then
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fleeing the area not really ripping or removing anything from the victim now when we're covering these
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cases there's some cases that questions pop up I get really excited to bring up these questions cuz I'm interested in
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what you think about some of these thoughts I have but one of the things I wanted to talk to you about was when you
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see that footage of this killer was there anything that sparked your criminal expert mind the first thing that jumped
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off the page and I may contradict some of this later but the first thing that jumped off the page to me was the
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slender build and the what I would say categorizes athleticism of the attacker which was an indicator to me that we may
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be dealing with a younger offender but before before we get into kind of trying to dissect the killer if you will I do
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have a couple more monikers if I if you will allow me here Captain oh sorry I jumped the gun you're fine another
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moniker used in this case is Jack the Knife so this comes from a wonderful public publication the AY magazine
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standing for About You magazine this is an Arkansas magazine covering everything
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that you can think of art entertainment food and drink Health people travel home
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and garden and killers and murder mystery yes uh ay did what is in my humble garage opinion the best article
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on this week's subject entitled that article Jack the Knife this Jack the Knife from ay is an incredibly thorough
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and detailed look into this case this is a case that has generated a lot of little online
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Snippets a lot of two and three minute online videos about the case but really not much in the way of going in
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depth of what is known about this killer what is known about the victims what is
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known about the streets of Little Rock during 20 20 and 2021 when these four attacks occurred so two great and
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thorough reads as far as I can tell if people want to dive deeper themselves check out Jack the Knife by ay magazine
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and also check out AR Justice project.com an article titled little rocks serial killer those are by far the
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two best the AR Justice projects article does cite the Jack the Knife story as a
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source so looking at that Jack the Knife moniker so you have the old song Mac the knife a
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famous song recorded by many artists including the great Louie Armstrong Bobby Darren about a knife wielding
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criminal and you also have arguably the most infamous serial killer of all time Jack the Ripper so Janie Jones who
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authored that great article for ay mag very cleverly titles it Jack the Knife still not as clever as pole [ __ ]
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certainly not but what would be pretty damn ironic if it turns out that this guy's
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name is Jack or some form thereof Jackson or even the last name Jackson then you have the last of the monikers
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that I've seen being used in this case uh which is the one that we chose for these to title these episodes The Little
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Rock slasher which seems to be the most commonly used as well is according to the attacks and the injuries as they are
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described maybe the most fitting so I sorry to go that down that route there Captain but I'm always fascinated by the
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names that come up that people come up with while they're looking for these monsters because we don't have a face we
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don't have a mug shot we don't have a name to put to the killer until he is identified and apprehended yeah so to
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get back to my question um anything that jumps out to you when you see this individual just what I said about the
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physical build of the the killer so what we do have here in this case is following this fourth attack the Little
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Rock Police Department they announced to the public that the four stabbings three
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of them fatal in 2020 and 2021 are possibly connected and that the public should be on high alert while they
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continue while law enforcement continue their search for a suspect right so now what we have is this strong Theory being
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presented to the public saying that we Little Rock Police Department have reason to believe after Marlon
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Franklin's murder these attacks are all connected police officially announcing that they had come to the conclusion
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that they were all likely committed by a singular offender in this press release
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law enforcement noted that all of the attacks had occurred in the early morning hours against strangers who were
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walking alone and as a result police patrols have been increased around the city of Little Rock the person giving
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this warning in in probably the loudest and most notable fashion would be that of Little Rock Police Chief
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Humphrey pronounced with an Umphrey sorry I cannot help help it when I see he got once got busy in a Burger King
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bathroom here you go so there's a video that's releas allegedly yeah allegedly there is a video that's released to the
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public explaining the situation in the video and according to Chief Humphrey in each case pedestrians walking late at
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night or in the early morning hours were attacked at random and he go goes on to
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say without compromising the investigation we know these in occurred in the Midtown area Humphrey said in his
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statement those who were walking in the area were randomly attacked investigators are searching for a man
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six feet or taller with a slender build detectives also believe that the man is Black based off of testimony from the
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Survivor Humphrey said that the police department has put un uniformed and plane closed officers in that area of
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the attacks and in informed the residents of course about good move the threat and in this public service
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announcement in this warning to the public that is when this case really kind of blows up Nationwide or at least
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on the internet and on social media and this is when you start seeing images of the killer what the captain is talking
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about there and you asked me what stood out to me that I'm going to give you my very basic descrip destion of what I'm
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seeing and we'll kind of get into maybe some of the psychological stuff here in a bit but I kind of feel like given the
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Slender nature of and slender build of this individual and how I don't want to say fast because when when you say fast
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I I picture like somebody running a great distance this individual looks to be quick to me um and slender and quick
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in my world usually means that we're talking about a younger person a younger offender this is certainly a tall bag of
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[ __ ] piece of [ __ ] black man a tall black male I see in the pictures white shoes and black gloves darker colored
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clothing along with lighter color shoes and black gloves is there anything that jumps off of those jumps off the screen
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to you when you're thinking about who this person could be captain like I said if age range I'm starting at under
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30 I'd probably lean more towards late te like you said athletic 63 Bean pole wouldn't be hard to
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identify this individual from blocks away but like you said his outfit to me that is showing some sort of preparation
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going hunting at night my question for law enforcement would be a couple things do we have any peeping Toms reported
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during this time period do we have any potential break-ins to cars reported at this time do we have any other
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eyewitnesses that saw an individual in this area around those times that match this description and then the other
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thing though too is we're assuming that this this individual is hunting by foot now that could mean one they live in the
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area or close or is it possible that they drive into the area and that would make me wonder some things too because
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if I can go back and pull surveillance footage from those nights pulling surveillance footage from
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gas stations or whatever to see what cars are pulling in does a guy get there and go oh man I'm running low on gas I
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need to fill up with gas fill up with gas Park in a location because this is a level of sophistication because if if I
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attack somebody and even if the cops come after me I just have to make it back to my vehicle and make it back to
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my vehicle in a time that I'm a distance away from them this is a lot easier to do on
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foot than you would think MH I mean when they talk about like seral bank robbers
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they normally do it on foot or do it on like bicycle home break-ins as well yeah
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and so I would really because it makes you wonder when you look at the victimology does this person have some
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Vendetta against the homeless or the less fortunate or is this old white people right that's
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that's the first two attacks here they both um one one of the persons is described as homeless and the other is
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not but the but if he if victim number one is out wandering the streets and maybe there's some other
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issues going on with victim one he may appear to be homeless to the attacker given the time of night I mean
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these are early morning attacks and when we talk about that we talked about the the time frame and when this all took
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place and I wanted to see if there was any type of significance of the days that the individuals were being attacked
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and there does not appear to be so August 24th of 2020 was a Monday September 23rd was a
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Wednesday and then February I'm sorry April 11 of 2021 when the third attack took place was a Sunday now I am of the
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belief that the fourth attack only took place within 27 hours of the third attack because the killer was
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unsuccessful in what it was that he wanted to do in the third attack so unfortunately none of these victims may
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have been targeted other than they were out on the streets and he found them but victim number
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four very unfortunate could just be collateral damage that he was unsuccessful the night before which
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again then goes to this idea of why yeah you know and and we've see this though too where these guys have these
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mental issues going on and they have this urge to attack they have an urge to kill and maybe it's just
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simply if I go to a area and I attack individuals that are homeless or are struggling on on some level less people
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that that miss those people um that's not what I want to say no that's I I think so not to cut you
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off here Captain but cutting in is the konel you know ay magazine said this in regard to when we talk about the victims
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and I'll quote them directly it says analyze ing the murders includes looking at the victimology on the surface the
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only thing the victims had in common was being in the same area in the we morning
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hours does the offender live or work in the community he seems familiar with the
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territory otherwise how has he gotten through the police draget what kind of job would allow a person to be out and
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about in the middle of the night without attracting attention what is his motive
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does he do it for kicks or to make himself feel powerful does he live alone if not does a roommate or family member
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know or at least suspect something is a miss and I know you're kind of circling around and vulturing around the what
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could be the motive here captain and I'm sure some people are going hey these are
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random attacks what does it Ma matter but it does matter because what we do know about serial
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offenders serial killers in particular and this comes from Decades of study by psychiatric professionals and law
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enforcement officials and those working in Behavioral Science Fields what we've learned in those
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Decades of study is that there is always an understandable motive for murder cops
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and people of science May disagree on what the motive is and why it evolves but make no mistake about it there is
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always motive for murder yeah and I think I think it matters a lot on whether this individual is coming to
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this area to hunt or they live in the area to hunt because you could make it argument now I'm not saying that this is
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the motive but this could be the motive that the killer has built into their mind of I live in this area and these
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individuals are scum and they're pulling down the neighborhood and they're making
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where I live less valuable you see what I'm saying we've said it a 100 times on the show we're going to say it a 100
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times more vehicles are always easier for police to locate than a person especially if they can get a vehicle on
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surveillance footage they've almost caught you 100% in their trap so what I'm concerned
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about and you ask asked the question what we know is not happening here is in the we hours I'm guessing in Little Rock
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I can only Bas us off of what we experience here in Columbus Ohio but public transit shuts down at some point
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I don't believe the Little Rock slasher is taking an Uber to and from these attacks or a lift for that matter so
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what what my suspicions would be is if they have already gone to the extent and Pat them on the
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back for doing so because I don't think that enough agencies are so quick to do this sometimes they're doing it weeks
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later and they've already lost the opportunity but we know that in at least one of the attacks they did
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recover camera footage of the attacker so I'm assuming that that means that they fanned out and they were
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looking for additional footage of this person and if so what we don't have is anybody via camera footage or eyewitness
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saying I saw a guy matching the description clothing and physical build getting into this vehicle passenger side
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back seat you know may have a driver or gets in and it drives the vehicle away themselves we don't have that
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information I think that if there was that I think that if it existed in this investigation police would have included
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that with their warning and their uh public service announcement that they made to the good people of Little Rock
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and so what that makes me wonder here captain and speculate is that with no public transit going on at that time at
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the hour of these attacks and nobody know Witnesses with a vehicle or surveillance camera footage of a vehicle
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I'm really starting to think this dude is on foot and the thing that makes me believe that is you can be much more
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stealth likee on foot than you can in a in a vehicle you are required to stay to
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the streets yes here this guy dressed in dark clothes could easily slip into the
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backyards of these neighborhoods and move more stealth likee in the backyards of these neighborhoods and get back to
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his home base no I agree and the only thing I'm saying though is I think there's a good possibility that the this
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killer is going into that area and parking so again same scenario he has to be stealth likee and he has to get back
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to his home base the only difference is his home base is possibly miles away parked and then once he can get into his
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vehicle and he's safe that he can then drive off slipping into the night but I'd also go with law enforcement okay
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how hard is it to start rounding up hey do you know any black male that's slender and above six foot tall and
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start questioning everybody in that area that matches that basic [Music] [Music]
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named Stacy freaking out how did they know cheers to Stacy and to all the people in the back yeah I do want to
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Circle back to the public service announcement from Chief Keith Humphrey of Little Rock PD so in that recorded
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statement and you can find the versions of this online in that recorded statement he states that the victims are
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chosen at random I don't think that they can 100% conclude that to be an absolute fact he
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does say and this is some area for optimism as far as solving this case he does say that the FBI is helping
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police investigate this case says that the Behavioral Science the behavioral analysis unit has provided some
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assistance to the Little Rock Police Department and he goes on to say quote let me be clear we will do everything
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possible to arrest this suspect and protect our city and the department is offering a $220,000 reward for
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information that leads to an arrest in this case and we have the FBI who's involved and
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as stated the behavioral analysis team is reported to have made a profile of the
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killer now I love the old days man I love the old days Captain when the FBI came in
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and gave a profile of the killer they would release that to the public yes you could read a large portion of the
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profile in the newspaper or see it online uh find it a a bunch of different ways it seems to be that the current day
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strategy one that I don't totally agree with because it's [ __ ] I think you have
00:31:45
to take it on a case-by casee basis but it seems that the current day strategy is oh let's create a profile and then we
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don't release it we we give it we provide it to law enforcement but we don't want to tip our cap to the the
00:31:58
suspect and show our hand here of who it is that we think that we're looking for
00:32:03
right and of here's my problem with it though our our tax dollars go to these agencies and with that
00:32:14
profile there could be something that sticks out that makes that individual call on
00:32:22
somebody that they might have not been suspect of prior to mhm and I think that's why it should be
00:32:30
released if that information is going to law enforcement that the FBI look if the FBI gives it to law
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enforcement and law enforcement says we're not going to release this but the FBI believes that this profile could
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really help then the FBI should supersede them right mhm and the FBI should go well that's great that
00:33:00
you're not going to release it but we are because I just would hold more weights look and and if the FBI says Hey
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on this case we're letting law enforcement you know pick and they're choosing not to release the profile and
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that's fine we're not going to but I bet there's a bunch of cases that after the
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FBI gives that profile and it's not released to the public the FBI is probably punching
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desk and going why aren't they releasing this this could really help drum up some leads yeah so here's here's where
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my mind goes with with this idea right I don't know that you gain a whole lot from releasing the profile in its
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entirety the other thing though too is I also question why you wouldn't release portions of yeah that's a good sit down
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form strategy and release the Port release portions of it the old school method that was put forward by the
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persons that created and were really the Cornerstone of building this Behavior Analysis team
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of the FBI that being Robert wrestler and John Douglas and Roy Hazelwood and that the list goes on and on of Anne
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Burgess of all these great people Pioneers in this in this uh world of new detecting they believed that you want to
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inform the public as much as possible and use the public as a weapon against the offender and so I think that you
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probably could release portions of it but here's where this is 100% a misstep in my mind okay so now we're going to
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get into the real psychological stuff of what we're looking at what we're looking
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at it it's simplest form is a Serial offender okay a person that commits a series of similar types of crimes over
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and over and over again now not all investigators know to do this but what you should be doing in these types of
00:35:14
cases and the people that have had great success in finding and making the arrest
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and getting their guy would tell you is that you're looking for two things you're looking for a mistake which you
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always look for in any case in any investigation a mistake made by the criminal while committing the offense
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but here you're looking for a mistake made by the Killer and or a signature okay so why would you be
00:35:46
looking for a signature because you could just read the guy's name John Smith did it what would be a lot of
00:35:52
people get confused when it comes to talking about modus oper rendai Mo versus signature there is a
00:36:02
clear difference however sometimes it's not so clear what that difference is well why don't you teach us you drunken
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buffoon Professor Colonel so many serial offenders have been known to vary their
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MO they may do that because circumstances at the time of the offense force them to right or they are trying
00:36:21
to fool police by changing tactics or sometimes they will change or vary their MO for both reasons one thing that does
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not change is a Killer's signature a serial killer signature is identified by the specific psychological need or needs
00:36:40
that murdering people fulfills for the offender so to put it more in more simple form I like I like the way that
00:36:49
John Douglas describes it in one of his Publications from the great words and wisdom of John Douger here he's talking
00:36:57
about I want everybody to think back to the great movie Silence of the lamps she
00:37:01
a big F person in its most simple form the breakdown between Mo versus signature he says it like this he's
00:37:08
talking about the killer in the movie Buffalo Bill he says while using an arm cast in a sling to abduct women is a
00:37:15
modus operandi killing and flaying the women to use their skins is not the term I
00:37:23
coin to describe that was signature because like a signature it is a personal detail that is unique to the
00:37:31
individual the mo is what the offender does to affect the crime the signature in a sense is why he does it the thing
00:37:41
that fulfills him emotionally sometimes there can be a fine line between M Mo and signature now let's take that a step
00:37:48
further we talked about why would you be looking for a mistake well you're always
00:37:53
looking for a mistake committed by the criminal while committing the offense they they commit they accidentally do
00:37:59
something wrong or or perform a mistake and that is going to lead you to your offender but in serial cases you're also
00:38:08
looking for that signature why because the signature aspect of the crime is so important we can begin to fill in much
00:38:17
of the rest of the offender's personality and predict the offender's recognizable post offense behavior from
00:38:26
this one Insight if you can determine what this Killer's signature is then that will
00:38:34
give you indicators of what to expect from his post offense Behavior you know the interview we did on off the record
00:38:41
with ant with the great an Burgess she is amazing incredibly brilliant when it comes to having insight and being able
00:38:50
to predict offenders post offense Behavior what you're talking about Captain is exactly spot on well of
00:38:57
course my good friend you can the public the neighbors of the killer the family members of the killer the friends of the
00:39:04
killer can tell us hey this guy that I know I think he's up to no good because the post offense behavior that you
00:39:13
predicted he's doing that he's behaving that way this is sending off a red flag to me this told
00:39:20
me to notify you ring ring hello and what you do see what we did see is as far as the deli case goes they released
00:39:30
very small portions of the offender profile what they did release a large portion of if not in its entirety is
00:39:38
what they expected may be the post offense behavior of the offender now keep in mind this is just a tool used by
00:39:47
law enforcement this is not a road map leading you directly to Jackson Brown the killer um obviously Jackson Brown's
00:39:55
not the killer but I I still uh would find it incredibly ironic if Jack the Knife was closer than
00:40:02
we think what also makes me wonder again with the profile if they came out and said well look we think late teens or
00:40:09
early 20s and not just based off of the build but maybe based off certain actions again maybe would have somebody
00:40:19
perk up their ears and go oh I know this guy that kind of seemed a little funny I
00:40:25
would also say because when they said hey we're putting out Patrol officers but we're also putting out
00:40:34
people in plane clothes we're putting officers out in plane clothes that obviously scared this individual because
00:40:42
as far as we know there has been no attacks after the fourth yeah something has either stopped him which maybe he
00:40:51
was arrested for an offense that they did not connect to these murders or these attacks ma that seems to be a high
00:40:58
probability I believe if he is living a highrisk lifestyle which which a lot of times these serial killers
00:41:08
are um no matter what Walk of Life they come from but so he he could have passed
00:41:15
away um could have been arrested for another offense or he could have been spooked
00:41:22
and stopped just out of the fear of being caught you know that's what a lot of people speculate when we talk about
00:41:29
the Zodiac Killer the last known confirmed attack of the Zodiac Killer the cab driver Paul Stein was as close
00:41:39
as it came as far as we know for the Zodiac to get caught and a lot of people speculate
00:41:45
that it spooked him so much he was so close to getting caught that he stopped or completely changed what he was doing
00:41:52
or moved to another area and changed what he was doing and ay magazine openly discusses that briefly too you know they
00:42:00
say where is he now where is the slasher now right is he already in police custody on other charges or maybe he's
00:42:07
moved on or maybe he's passed you on the streets today and they say this is how they end the article it's a great
00:42:14
article Don't Worry unless you too are a creature of the night back the victimology here a little bit captain
00:42:22
and you talked about this and we've talked about this before but because most of our victims fall into one or
00:42:28
several of these categories that they're elderly poor or homeless a lot of times in cases like
00:42:36
this people like this fall into what is very tastelessly referred to as the undead category because they are
00:42:46
commonly targets for violent criminals due to the fact that the criminal likely believes that
00:42:52
no one or very little people will care if they vanish this is H how many other serial killers
00:43:00
have been able to procure so many victims before they ever appear on the police or the Public's radar bothers me
00:43:10
I know it bothers you I know it bothers a ton of people in the True Crime community that some of the the
00:43:16
popularity of these cases are based on the status of the victim and it just it's sad
00:43:27
well because we have we have three dead victims mhm one that barely survived M and they deserve our respect they
00:43:39
deserve answers whether they have family members or friends you know protesting on the streets or doing interviews or or
00:43:48
whatever or if they have none they didn't deserve to be murdered not by this psycho well and here's the thing
00:43:58
too that's strange in this case and and the thing is look police scrutiny okay warranted or otherwise you are always
00:44:07
going to have police scrutiny when a crime goes unsolved and in particular you're going to have a mountain of it
00:44:15
when a serial killer is in the area and so there's been a good heaping uh of of police scrutiny in this case now I'm
00:44:27
going to go on the flip side of that coin and say this I'm going to give some praise to Chief Humphrey I'm going to
00:44:37
give some praise to the Little Rock Police Department simply for making the announcement that they believe they have
00:44:43
a serial killer a Serial knife attacker in the area yeah because some because some law enforcement wouldn't do that
00:44:51
because they know the heat that it will bring onto them they'll know they also know that that the
00:44:58
media sometimes will have a field day with that it's like underlining and pointing out to the public hey you pay
00:45:04
us and expect us to protect and serve and here's a prime example that we can't do that we have this one guy running
00:45:11
around stabbing and killing people but here you got to at least Pat them on the back for bringing it to the Public's
00:45:19
attention because in so many cases Captain you know this we've seen this a dozen times where it feels like police
00:45:27
detectives or police Chiefs are in in front of a camera or in front of reporters and they seem to dodge the
00:45:34
question of a serial killer being active in the area actively hunting prey in the
00:45:41
area by saying some simply as well until we can confirm that these murders are all related we are not willing to say
00:45:48
that we have a serial killer in the area there's nothing wrong with going look you don't want to get out there and you
00:45:55
do not want to paint this picture that 100% these cases are absolutely connected you can't do that from a
00:46:02
prosecutorial angle meaning that if you arrest a guy later and you can absolutely through EV evidence connect
00:46:08
him to one or two of these cases but not the other two you've kind of dug yourself a hole when you get to the
00:46:15
court and you now have to tell a jury yeah I know we were telling you for two years all four cases were absolutely
00:46:21
connected here's a guy we're only charging him with two of them and now we know he didn't do the other two now you
00:46:28
get a jury that's conflicted so you don't want to you don't want to rubber stamp these things and say 100% they are
00:46:34
all connected but I think from a safety a public safety standpoint you did the right thing you owe it to them to say
00:46:41
look this is what our suspicion is and we have reason to believe that they are likely those are their words likely all
00:46:48
connected be on the lookout don't be walking the streets between 1 and 4: or 5 a.m. by yourself don't do that
00:46:56
especially in this highly dangerous area and again they were kind enough and did
00:47:03
did the right thing by putting a for a lack of better term what I call a murder map on this public service announcement
00:47:12
they're showing you a map of your city here is the area that we are primarily concerned with here is the area where
00:47:20
all of these attacks took place so you have four stabbings that occurred within a threemile area
00:47:26
with the easternmost attack taking place a few blocks from Main Street and the westernmost taking place near the 12th
00:47:35
Street substation for the police department what's great with looking into these cases and what you learn
00:47:42
especially from seven years of looking into these cases together you know we differ on on a lot of points um and
00:47:51
there's definitely things that I think law enforcement could do more in this case to lead to more
00:48:00
leads but I I I do agree it it it it's better for them to come out and say hey these are possibly connected this is the
00:48:09
location and during these time periods or any other time be on the lookout for this individual and keep yourself safe
00:48:18
law enforcement encourages us to have and form things like a neighborhood watch and I love when I see a police
00:48:26
department again I do not live in Little Rock so if there's problems with the police department I've not experienced
00:48:32
those all I'm basing this off of is what I'm seeing here in this one case in particular and I am I'm
00:48:40
glad that I think they did the right thing by their people to warn them I like when I see
00:48:47
police behaving in a manner that you would a neighborhood watch informing their citizens informing thece police
00:48:55
and saying hey it's not lost on us that you are at risk right now have each other's backs be safe yeah well just
00:49:05
think about how much better law enforcement would be if they just live by the simple things or the simple code
00:49:14
of Serve and Protect and by making this announcement you are trying to protect there's a video well several videos on
00:49:23
YouTube under uh a group called The snarky Media Group that seems to be keeping an eye on all things Little Rock
00:49:32
now I've not reviewed all of their videos and I have never lived in Little Rock so I have no way of knowing if they
00:49:38
are offering up an unbiased opinion here but I can certainly say that they are snarking that they are watching right
00:49:46
they are watching over Little Rock they are reporting and offering up a lot of opinions along the way one of their
00:49:52
statements is quote since our last video about the Little Rock slasher we have obtained more information about Little
00:50:00
Rock Police Department and the mayor refusing to provide transparency about the status of the
00:50:06
Little Rock slasher investigation they've done some investigating themselves and and this could be an
00:50:13
interesting lead here take it with a grain of salt because we we can't confirm how great this organization's
00:50:21
work is other than they've posted a lot of YouTube videos on a lot of different matters concerning the city of Little
00:50:28
Rock over the years but one of their social media posts I found to be incredibly interesting it says since
00:50:35
Little Rock PD has shown little to no concern about several reports made to them that the Little Rock slasher
00:50:44
possibly lives on 19th Street we are posting this information in the hope that it can prevent future incidents
00:50:52
this is something they posted May 4th of 20 2021 and they go on to say multiple residents of the area have related
00:51:01
information to us that the individual has pulled a knife on them and they State he is known in the neighborhood as
00:51:09
the stalker and goes by the street name juggler residents state that he is the individual that stabbed the woman who
00:51:18
survived the Little Rock slasher attack they go on this snarky media goes on to say we know his legal name but are
00:51:26
refraining from publishing it at this time the person of interest previously lived in a boarding house near ml K
00:51:34
which is Martin Luther King Avenue or Street and that is a street that is in this area this very neighborhood that
00:51:41
we've been discussing this threemile area where the attacks have occurred they go on to say he pulled a
00:51:47
knife on another Resident and was kicked out of this boarding house he moved to The Boarding House closer to Marshall
00:51:54
which is one of the streets that we talked about one individual reported that they saw Little Rock Police
00:52:00
Department cops at the 19th Street boarding house talking to this person of interest recently again this is May of
00:52:08
2021 this particular portion of 19th Street is known to be a hot bed of crime by law enforcement so it seems like they
00:52:16
believe that at one time they had a hot lead or may have even known the killer's
00:52:22
name if in fact they are on to something thing here I've this is one thing that I've wondered about the serial slasher
00:52:30
here in Little Rock is what is in what is triggering these attacks because he's not going out night after night after
00:52:38
night unless he's going out every night and just not finding the right circumstances or the right scenario and
00:52:45
choosing not to attack I think that if he's out running the streets every night he'd probably be caught by now yeah I
00:52:51
agree because in every single case we don't have all these eyewitnesses even if this individual wasn't out every
00:52:58
night but they were out multiple times a week hunting I think we just have more eyewitnesses coming forward saying that
00:53:06
I I saw somebody that matches that description yeah and I have to believe that if they're not they should be that
00:53:14
these boarding houses are are keeping some kind of lodging Records who is staying with them when or at the very
00:53:22
least who they are kicking out and when and why why so if this individual has been kicked out out of out of several
00:53:29
boarding houses as this statement from snarky that they put on social media States is that the trigger is that why
00:53:39
this killer is out on the streets at night some nights and not other nights that he's got to some kind of verbal or
00:53:46
physical altercation with somebody at a boarding house a resident or someone in charge and has been booted out and then
00:53:54
he goes out onto the streets and takes out his anger on people of a similar Walk of Life something is triggering
00:54:01
this killer on certain days and not triggering him at other times and I think if they can identify that trigger
00:54:10
then that is going to be how they can identify this killer and find out who is responsible yeah I'd like to know from
00:54:19
the surviving victim if she smelled alcohol on the Killer's breath here's my my other suspicion is that I don't know
00:54:28
that all of these attacks are 100% random I'm not saying that these individuals were targeted what I'm
00:54:36
saying is I believe out of the four attacks that I think there would be a decent probability that the killer knew
00:54:46
one of these people or had run-ins with all four I mean think about that this person lives in the neighborhood they
00:54:52
have a runin with the individual and then they and then they go later on when they're still stewing about that
00:55:00
interaction or or whatever that they went okay I'm going to go find that individual today well I'm glad that you
00:55:07
said the word stewing and find because that leads me to my suspicion about our killer so when I say that I think
00:55:14
there's a chance that this killer knew one of the victims we can really shrink that down to only a couple of
00:55:23
possibilities right our first victim lived or at least is reported to have lived two and a half hours away there's
00:55:31
a very it's a much less likelihood that the killer knew him he's found on foot lives two and a half hours away the
00:55:40
third victim who survives says a stranger attacked me on the street she identifies him by description but does
00:55:47
not identify him by name so that leaves us with only two other possibilities the
00:55:52
second victim who did not survive and the fourth victim who did not survive what is different between those two
00:55:58
victims the difference is with the fourth victim and you said it stewing you said it
00:56:05
f the only attack that we are aware of that he was unsuccessful when he went out looking for someone to kill because
00:56:13
with with an attack that's so quick and maybe so Random is that the one true signature here to finish the job the
00:56:22
thing that fulfills him is the killing itself rather than the attack and when he knew or found out that Deborah Walker
00:56:32
survived that night was he determined to go out into the night the following night and no matter what he had to come
00:56:39
away with the victim that he was successful in carrying out the actual murder and what would an individual do
00:56:47
in that circumstance he's likely going to go where he knows he can find a victim and score and and if that's the
00:56:55
case it's not out of the realm of possibility to believe that he may have known that fourth and final
00:57:04
victim this is a dangerous individual but we have them on surveillance footage we have people in the
00:57:14
neighborhood that are identifying an individual as a suspect or at least a person that should
00:57:23
be a person of interest this is a solvable crime I believe it would already have been solved if the
00:57:31
community got behind this and talked more about this and plastered those images all over the internet and all
00:57:41
over their Community but this is a solvable [Music] crime all right beautiful people thank you so much for joining us
00:58:02
here in the garage thanks for coming in relaxing having a couple sips maybe a couple Brews maybe a whole bottle of
00:58:12
wine nobody's judging here Colonel do we have any recommended reading for the beautiful listeners we do this week we
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00:58:28
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00:58:35
have certainly recommended before and we will recommend it again because it's just that good The Devil's not by the
00:58:43
one and only Mara Leverett if you follow the West Memphis case on a hardcore level you already own this book this
00:58:51
book is no doubt the Cornerstone for HBO's Paradise Lost 2 Revelations but so much more detailed than what the
00:59:01
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00:59:09
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