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through the evidence and see if we can come up with a better explanation regarding the death of detective Suitor
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so there was some audio and then some video evidence in this case the difficult thing in this case is
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information and facts seem to have come out in little nuggets here and there and
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it really just leaves you wondering if you have heard the whole story so we've compiled this and tried to put it
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together in a presentation that makes the most sense regarding the surveillance footage this was taken from
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a private video camera attached to the Food Mart Convenience Store on Bennett Place the police have relied on the
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private camera in the past for footage and photos of suspects in this rough neighborhood just like seemingly every
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other piece of surveillance footage we've seen in other cases the time stamp on this video is off it was later
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revealed to be off by 11 hours the footage has been analyzed and over analyzed and picked apart by the media
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and the public to be clear what it shows I really think is open to interpretation
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for one thing the video is taken from across the street and way down the block any human figures visible are small
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and the video has areas that appear to be out of focus or or smudged but here is what the video shows
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according to the Baltimore Police Department and mind you this is taken from a statement before they release the
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video to the public they say that the video shows detective Suitor and bomenka they are at Bennett Place near the
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entrance to the vacant lot now we lose sight of beaumenka who is wearing a light tan trench coat and is
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distinguishable from the dark suited Suitor a DOT and I I describe this as a DOT
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because it's what it looks like to me a DOT that may be Suitor is seen standing behind a white van parked on Bennett
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Place walking around described as pacing back and forth what happens next is very
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unclear but according to the official Baltimore Police Department position what we see is Suitor pacing back and
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forth behind the van and then suddenly darting into the vacant lot with his radio in his left hand and his gun in
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his right then shots rang out now the video from what I could find does not have
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sound so we can only guess that this is when the shots rang out and we see beaumenko running across the
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street away from the lot to take cover specifically the whole episode between Suitor running into the lot in bomenka
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running took about eight seconds or less the vacant lot where suter's body was found is not in the line of sight of the
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camera we are informed later that bemenka had been on Schroeder street right around
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the corner when the shots were fired and he did not see what happened according to the Baltimore Police
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Department's interpretation there is no perpetrator seen on the video footage although others argue that that's
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debatable then we have two witnesses two eyewitnesses who do not wish to be identified but they told WBAL TV 11 news
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that they saw suitor's partner beaumenka walking on the sidewalk to an opening when gunfire rang out
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the second witness told the same news station that after the gunfire he saw suitor's partner in a crouched position
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with his gun drawn the witness said the partner then ran through the crime scene
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and into Bennett Place so if the two eyewitnesses are reliable and if what's been disclosed by the
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police department about the contents of the surveillance footage is accurate then detective bomenka could not have
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been the shooter who killed Sean according to bemenka he called 9-1-1 on his phone and then went to the vacant
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lot to check on his partner so what is strange here by this whole account is that bemenka did not have his radio on
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him right he had to use his cell phone to call for backup Police Dispatch sent out a signal 13 an emergency call that
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means urgent officer down this took place at 4 36 pm police dispatchers initially radioed
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quote caller reporting his partner got shot no description of the suspect no further end quote interestingly this
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directly contradicts a statement we know commissioner Davis made about the suspect being a black man in a black and
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white jacket this statement by Davis about the suspects seen by bemenko was released later on the night of the
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shooting but dispatch was not notified of any description in the initial 9-1-1 call and in fact was told there was not
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a description but then an hour after the shooting a dispatcher issued a city-wide
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bolo be on the lookout for a black male with white sleeves and a knit baseball cap so this video the long version is
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about an hour and 10 minutes I'm not going to post that version but there is a shorter version where they zoom in
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where they believe the detective was detective Suitor was so I will post that on our website at True Crime garage we
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also have commissioner Davis who revealed that there was a brief two or three second unintelligible transmission
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from Detective Shooters radio it conveyed that he was quote clearly in distress said Davis Suter is heard to
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shout something and it was confirmed by his peers that it was likely suter's voice in this bit of audio
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and there's a loud sound that could be possibly a gunshot and then silence and when he was found Suitor was still
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holding his radio in his left hand commissioner Davis elaborated that the body cam footage from officers
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responding to the scene showed that suitor's radio never left his hand responding officers wearing body cameras
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turned Suitor over and found him to be in grave condition after sending Suter off to the hospital in a law enforcement
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vehicle officers first concern was the possibility that the shots came from a nearby building
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bemenka said he heard multiple gunshots but was not able to detect their origin and when he ran to suit her side there
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was no suspect in sight this is confirmed by the audio recordings of the police dispatch calls in one of the
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radio Transmissions the officer on the scene says we still have a possible armed perp here officer was not able to
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speak on where it came from meaning the gunshots we don't know if it was on foot in the
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rear alley or from one of the houses near the window we're not sure so the block was placed on lockdown while
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officers searched for the shooter in the many nearby vacant buildings as we know
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it remained on lockdown for six days while the police department investigated meanwhile we know that someone drove
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Suter to the shock trauma center got into an accident and Suitor was transferred to an ambulance despite this
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Dr Thomas Scalia physician and chief at the shock trauma unit told the sun later
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that any delay in getting Suitor to the hospital did not impact his condition some more details the bullet entered
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behind his right ear and traveled forward exiting from his left temple this fact raised all sorts of questions
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was it possible that he was wrestling with an attacker and had his arm twisted around behind his ear and the gun went
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off how did the bullet get lodged into the dirt ground was Suitor on the ground when he was
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shot that would explain the dirt some of the dirt that was found on his clothing
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right but interestingly no mention has ever been made of the whereabouts of the other two bullets now we know
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that they were fired from suter's gun but where are they as far as we know they've never been located so we have
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yes we have the bullet casings but no bullets all right Captain I think that we need
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to dive into the suicide Theory as I think this Theory might be the biggest and most complicated of the theories put
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forth the suicide Theory I think has the most layers to it one layer and a very thick
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one I might add is when Suitor was subpoenaed to testify against his fellow officers he possibly would be
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incriminating himself in illegal activity as well also some of the disgraced task force
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members named 12 additional officers in the Baltimore Police Force who were in on the take these additional officers
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allegedly either participated in the committing of crimes helped cover them up or enjoyed some of the proceeds and
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some of these were higher ups one of those named was the head of the Baltimore Police Department's Internal
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Affairs Division and Davis's number two man on the force one was an assistant State's Attorney
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and one was detective Sean Suter now detective gondo who we talked about yesterday asserted specifically that
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Sean Suter had for a decade participated in stealing money with the task force members and other corrupt members of the
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Baltimore Police Department right he also said that Suitor knowingly planted the heroine and Umar burley's vehicle
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despite all commissioner Davis's repeated assertions that Sean Suter was clean as a whistle the news that he had
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been named as corrupt as well as the other pieces of evidence about his killing it was his own gun it was a
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close contact wound no one saw a perpetrator may suggest that Suitor actually killed himself Stephen
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schenning the acting U.S attorney said people had suggested Suitor was complicit in misconduct but said quote
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we'll never know what he knew because he's not here to speak to the circumstances
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so was it possible that Suitor was crooked and did he not want that truth to emerge tarnishing his reputation
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ending his career Landing him in prison and shaming and impoverishing his family
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it is possible in other words that Suitor staged his own suicide to look like he was killed
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in action not being able to face his own downfall hence why there's three shots from his gun
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so this has happened before specifically in 2015 a Fox Lake Illinois Lieutenant carefully staged his death to look like
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he was killed in the line of duty but actually killed himself after stealing from a youth program he oversaw
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this guy embezzled thousands of dollars over seven years and spent it on mortgage payments travel gym memberships
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among other things but the walls were closing in and he knew he was about to be nailed for his crimes right on the
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day he died he was on duty he radioed that he was chasing three suspects in a swampy area near Fox Lake north of
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Chicago backup officers later found his body about 50 yards from his squad car his death set off a huge Manhunt
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involving hundreds of officers the search involved multiple law enforcement agencies and ended up costing over three
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hundred thousand dollars in overtime and other expenses authorities said the officer was shot with his own gun and
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took elaborate steps to try to make it look like he died in a struggle including shooting himself twice in the
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Torso through his vest the suspects were never found investigators finally reached the conclusion of suicide which
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was vehemently opposed by his family including his four children who said the officer never once thought of taking his
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own life and spoke excited Lee and often about what he planned to do after retirement right you can't deny that
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there are parallels between that case and that of Sean Suter well yeah but one one thing that is not parallel is that
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shooter has another detective with him so even if you Fire Two Shots maybe thinking that you're going to
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stun the other detective and he's going to look away or take cover now you have seconds to then make it
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look like you struggled with somebody and shoot yourself at the same time so that that's a big difference and a lot
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of stuff regarding the Suitor case from within the department thoughts and theories from within the department
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didn't come out until 2018 because apparently several of the initial investigators on The Suitor case came to
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the conclusion that he may have killed himself this being as early as a month after his
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death right the Baltimore Sun reported that month that officials inside the Baltimore Police Department itself were
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divided about where the evidence in the case pointed them to and again we have commissioner Davis who continued to
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endorse the homicide Theory and then others leaned towards suicide as the most likely explanation by March of 2018
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the AP described suter's death as a baffling whodunit with evidence pointing in two different directions murder verse
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suicide suitor's family of course insists that the suicide theory is absurd they
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maintain that he was a happy father of five who would never have left his children his uncle this is Sherman basil
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mentioned that Suitor was eagerly looking forward to a peaceful retirement this is just seven years away and he had
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recently made plans to visit his uncle in DC with his extended family over the Christmas holidays well okay I don't I
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don't mean to stop you in the tracks here but even with the last case the the officer that took his life because he
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stole money if it if it is true that detective shooter was taking money here's these here's what I have a
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problem is when everybody goes well he was a happy man and he didn't talk about any depression and he was looking
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forward to retirement did he also tell you about the money he was stealing right in the fact that he was yeah he
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didn't right and we and he didn't in the first case and so this is this is evidence that you don't know everything
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about this individual I mean you you have to know that that's evidence that they're hiding something so I just want
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to put that out there well and we didn't get into the thick of this yesterday so
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I think we should now because as you pointed out there are possibly more motivating
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factors for a possible suicide Suter had five children his salary was reportedly
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78 000 a year right if he died in the line of duty his family stood to receive hundreds of thousands of dollars in a
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lump sum payouts a federal and state benefits right a pension giving his widow his annual salary for life and I
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actually saw one report that states it would be tax-free for the course of her life was that's good though it should be
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taxed there would also be workers compensation as well as any possible life insurance that they had Okay so
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are you is that it on those facts well I I think let's go into these benefits go
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ahead I have a question for you okay well what does it get if he goes to jail how much they how much does the police
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department pay his family uh he wouldn't get they I don't know this to be 100 fact but
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I have to believe it would be zero right it's probably zero right you don't get to go to jail and they go hey we're
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going to pay your family money or hey what's what's the benefits that your family gets if you go to jail
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zero right so you know that that becomes a difficult thing you know that seems to me like such a
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big motive and then on the other side of things you go well of course the I I don't believe that that his wife is
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arguing that he didn't kill himself because she wants money but that has to play a factor in this
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that she would have a motive to keep that fight going does that make sense well yeah I mean you've got to question
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everything what question if we're questioning Sean suiter's motivation right if and what may have actually
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happened it's fair to question hers as well right but then we have to question somebody else's motive as well because
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if the police department is saying Hey look at first we're looking for a suspect
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white jacket black and white jacket black man this is what we're looking for we're
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shutting down a whole neighborhood and then all of a sudden you go hey hey this cop wasn't dirty well maybe the cop
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was dirty this is what they're saying there's the there's a suspect no there's not a
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suspect uh a Suitor wasn't dirty oh he was dirty and then you're and you're gonna tell me
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now we don't know if we have a shooter and now we think that he killed himself well guess who doesn't have to pay
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anything out if he killed himself the police department so and I understand that's not coming
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directly from their pockets but I you know I've never been a part of those budget meetings
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and trust me I know some people that have and they're not pretty yeah but I should you know I want to include this
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because my take on this whole story is while you have some investigators saying that hey there are there were some
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things that pointed to a possible suicide I don't believe it was their their um 100 put our stamp on it positioned
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that he did commit suicide and I mean that being coming directly from the Baltimore
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Police Department I don't I don't see them trying to spin this in that direction uh at this point in our in our
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story in the case that appears to me to be speculation they're still treating this as a
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homicide but these are just possible motivating factors for another possibility of
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suicide and as mentioned so one of the um benefits the largest benefit that would be available to families of Fallen
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law law enforcement officers this would come from the U.S justice department it's a program that provides 350
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000 in payout and it also pays out for higher education tuition assistance for his children
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so that money is not available if he was a dirty cop or if it was determined that his death
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was caused by his own intention so in other words if Sean Suiter killed himself many of those benefits to his
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family would be drastically reduced if not removed altogether one do you know how much money these kids would get for
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college assistance I mean do you know how much it is to get a computer degree this in these day and age
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trillions of dollars right trillions and I I've actually seen different reports regarding what the
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tuition assistance would would have been for his children right um anything from
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you know the the whole bill is paid to um you know a small amount paid annually well and I'm joking about the trillions
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but I mean higher education now I mean the price is ridiculous well so if he did commit suicide how
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would this have worked if this is in fact what happened if Sean Suter did kill himself we can only wonder when he
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made the decision to do such a thing and how much planning went into it for one thing there are reports that shooter
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shooter I'm sorry requested beaumenka to work with him that day being a junior partner so bemenka was kind of low on
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the totem pole as far as these homicide investigators go he was only in the homicide division for five months
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perhaps bomenko was more likely to follow suitor's Direction leaving his side to enter the vacant lot on the
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Schroeder Street side and there would be no witnesses to what happened right one
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thing we got to point out here is while they were tracking down this quote-unquote lead this possible lead in
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an unsolved homicide Suitor was directing himself that day he wasn't he wasn't being directed by a
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higher up as to where to go that day he was choosing where to go and some have pointed out that him knowing that it was
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an abandoned neighborhood you know a bad place a bad part of town right that this
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might be a good place to Stage a murder stage his murder and but what's weird here is
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that we have them on video footage looking odd almost as as if he's paying attention to somebody
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and then he goes into this alley we got three gunshots so you go you fire randomly and then put
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one in the back of your head mhm and then where does the gun fall the gun Falls underneath him as he falls
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now I'm not so worried about where they found them where they found the bullet right and
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the reason why is because I don't think necessarily that Suitor has to place himself on the ground to get the bullet
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where it was the bullet could have ricocheted off of anything and fell you know I mean well I I'm with you on
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the the finding of the bullet the location of the bullet that killed him I think you could argue it both ways one
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it could indicate that he turned his gun on himself or that he was involved in a
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struggle and he ended up toward the ground or facing the ground or on the ground right and was was killed by you
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know a gunman who got away right now but what's weird to me though is the struggle it also could have been
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he's pulling his trigger himself and the struggle happens where his arm goes then behind his head
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think about like if a guy got behind him put him in a half Nelson then his arms struggling and maybe he goes to fire
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thinking he's going to shoot him and ends up shooting himself in the head I think what we do have though is you know
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we have ballistic evidence to to know if it came from his gun which I'm assuming
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that they know and that bullet did come from his gun they have uh publicly stated that ballistically uh they have
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proof that the three shots were fired from his gun right and so the other thing though too is we have uh the
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measurements of his arms and the measurement of the gun and is it even possible for him to get the gun in the
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spot where he shot himself and and facing in the direction that the bullet would exit the body
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I think they they should be able to prove that scientifically when when this case first broke
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okay now keep in mind they're obviously treating this as a homicide right from the get-go but when the case first broke
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the information that came out was that he had his radio in his left hand his gun in his right hand and that he was
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shot in the rights I'm sorry that he was shot in the left side of his head which
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scientifically makes it almost impossible that his arm would reach around there and shoot himself in the
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left side of his head right what they ended up learning very quickly into the investigation now mind you by
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this point they've already set investigators out looking for a killer a cop killer then they find out that no in
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fact The Gunshot did come from the right side right entered the head at the right
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side right but what I'm saying is depending on where at on the right side of his head
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it was behind his ear so it would have been I think it I think I mean I'm this is
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the great thing about podcasting I'm sitting here we're both doing this trying to put our right hand toward the
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back of our right ear and somebody's gonna walk in and think we're doing hot yoga but we're not while you can do so I
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would I wouldn't say that it's difficult but it doesn't seem very it doesn't seem
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Supernatural right but again maybe that's part of the plan if I do it this way it's not going to
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seem natural they're not going to know what's up well and then in August of 2018 we will get back the IRB report and
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we will review their findings right after this quick beer break [Music] all right we're back
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cheers to you Captain cheers to you and cheers to everyone else extra crispy Colonel the independent review board
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established to review the investigation into Sean suter's death finally published its 207-page report on August
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27 2018 and we will go through all 207 Pages well that's one page less than our report just joking here we'll break it
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down for you in some bullet points so the report stated that the IRB concluded that detective Suter took his own life
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with his own weapon the report contains information that was not disclosed until
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this point so let's break it down now this is all per their report we may argue some things along the way here
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Captain but let's start off in investigating the case the police department executed 12 search warrants
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conducted 123 interviews followed up on 54 tips and cleared 33 vacant homes in the end they were left with no suspects
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Suitor and his partner for the day beaumenka had been to Bennett Place on the previous day as well
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Suiter told bemenka that he was in search of a street worker named Mary this is as much information as we have
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about this person named Mary whom he said was a potential source of information in a 2016 triple murder but
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there is no mention of her in the murder case File or the Department's list of informants
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what they're implying here is that Suter may have made up this person named Mary
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right Suitor and bomenka thought that they saw the quote suspicious person from their unmarked vehicle at 402 PM
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but they weren't certain they decided to call it a day at that point Suitor had a
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five o'clock meeting with his attorney the report reveals but bemenka did not know this while driving away Suiter told
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beaumenka he saw the suspect in the alley they parked and Suitor stayed behind the white van parked on Bennett
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Place and directed bomenka to the corner of Bennett Place and Schroeder Street so that he could see if someone came out
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of the opening to the vacant lot located on Schroeder street according to bomanca
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at 4 36 PM Suitor ran towards the vacant lot and out of view of bomenka as sooner
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disappeared from view bomenka observed Suitor beginning to unholster his weapon with his right hand
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just prior to that Suitor waived at bomenka the purpose of this gesture is unclear beaumenka interpreted the wave
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to signify that something was happening in the vacant lot he heard Suiter Yale stop stop stop police and heard gunshots
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bomenka's reporting is a little inconsistent for this next part the report reads bomenka ran away from the
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lot and called 9-1-1 when backup arrived within two minutes of the call bomenka and the responding officer approached
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the lot and found Suitor on the ground rolled him over and started chest compressions
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just after Suitor was placed in the patrol car to go to the trauma center he received a text message this is from his
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attorney at 4 42 PM Jeremy Eldridge texted Suitor you have grand jury by subpoena at 1pm in federal court and a
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meeting at 11 A.M at usao followed immediately by I can't stay past six getting no response he texted again at 4
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52 PM dude what is going on Sean Suter deleted later convicted officers gondo and Ward from the
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contacts of his phone along with 75 texts and 313 call log entries so what did the IRB report point to as
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evidence of suicide the autopsy determined that there was a close contact wound where the gun barrel
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was pressed to his head the bullet had marks consistent with suter's Glock although it could not be 100 percent
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confirmed as coming from suter's gun the evidence is overwhelming that the Fatal
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weapon was suter's Glock suter's DNA was found inside the gun barrel as well as on its surface the
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report attributes this as likely due to blood spatter entering the chamber the report states that no other traceable
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DNA or fingerprints were found on the gun the three shell casings found at the scene came from suter's Gun blood
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spatter was found on the inside of suitor's right shirt cuff indicating that his arm was close to the skull and
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was spattered when blood was expelled by the shot and making it unlikely that someone was forcibly holding his right
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wrist or lower arm mud on suitor's left shoe and left knee shows that he was kneeling on his left
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knee when he was shot this they say is inconsistent with a struggle but consistent with Police
00:34:08
Officers Training to take a knee to stabilize themselves when shooting Suter was trained in self-defense and
00:34:16
knew how to use the gun slide to disable his weapon if attacked other than Trace
00:34:22
Amounts of DNA which might be attributed to the officers who transported Suitor to the hospital no DNA other than his
00:34:30
was on his person he had no defense wounds His Radio was still in his hand inconsistent with a struggle based on
00:34:39
the video and witness statements a suspect would not have enough time to disarm and kill suder and Escape bomenka
00:34:47
didn't see anyone running away from the scene and heard Suiter yell stop instead
00:34:52
of help we also have suitors work computer the search history revealed that Suitor
00:34:59
Googled Von Greene Funeral on five occasions on September 6 2017 when Suitor was laid to rest his family
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utilized the services of Von Greene Funeral Home okay there's a lot of bullet points
00:35:13
there a lot of different thoughts and that's a lot to go through and here's what we got to be clear on this because
00:35:21
this independent review board they didn't from my understanding they didn't actually go out and conduct their
00:35:28
own investigation what they did was they compiled all of the information that was
00:35:34
gleaned from the investigation already right and reviewed that information together collectively as a board as a
00:35:44
group and came to the conclusion that Sean Suter killed himself right it's like the warring commission and I also
00:35:50
believe that the determination of homicide has not been overturned by this finding of the review board
00:35:58
so technically this would still be should still be a homicide when investigated as such now regarding their
00:36:07
bullet points they do put together a good strong argument that Suitor may have killed himself
00:36:14
I would argue back that I don't think it's conclusive no I don't think so I think it's still
00:36:21
unclear yeah I agree I agree with you on that but it's the deleting of the contacts and the the deleting of the
00:36:28
history that's suspect but you're going to meet with your lawyer later are you trying to get rid of it
00:36:36
before you meet with the lawyer and maybe it has nothing to do with the shooting it's so it's so darn tough
00:36:43
because with this case I think that a lot of the things you can argue on both sides like okay for instance you
00:36:51
mentioned the deleting of those two contacts deleting of text messages that probably were conversations with those
00:36:58
two contacts right was that simply because Sean Suter was a good guy and he it was known to him by
00:37:05
this point that those were bad guys that were you know corrupt cops that he was working with and he didn't want any part
00:37:11
of them yeah just so you know you know we're not the same just because we we both worked for the same Department I've
00:37:17
learned through the course of of history with you that we are not the same we are
00:37:23
not friends right and I'm deleting you for that purpose now yeah but this is an odd time to
00:37:30
delete it so well I I don't know that we know exactly when that was deleted right
00:37:37
um you know this could have been months in advance from what I found in the report it just says that those were
00:37:44
deleted when they inspected his phone that was deleted I don't it's not like they're saying that day the day that he
00:37:50
took his own life he deleted that information that was unclear regarding the funeral home
00:37:56
um okay I am nowhere near nowhere near the age that you would have to put me in an assisted living home
00:38:05
pretty close though but when I used to drive around the state of Ohio conducting interviews and some of them
00:38:10
were taking place at these assisted living homes there was more than one occasion where I
00:38:16
went to one and I'm like that was a really nice facility I really like the way that they are treating the residents
00:38:23
there what I'm getting at is just because he Googled a funeral home doesn't mean that
00:38:29
he was planning his death it could be something as simple as as he attended a funeral there wanted to remember the
00:38:36
name of it in case he had to make arrangements for himself at a later date or one and you say he's just going to
00:38:43
the website he yeah he Googled the um a general name not the exact name of the funeral home but a general name that
00:38:51
would lead him to get information it's kind of like if you walk past a restaurant that you think looks nice and
00:38:56
you're like oh Google John you know John A's well there's also obituaries that are posted on on funeral parlors
00:39:06
websites oh that's true so could he be looking up some you know a friend of a friend a family friend that might have
00:39:13
passed away to see what time their service is or if they passed away who knows I think within all of that that
00:39:22
there's really only two pieces of evidence that I think are very strong in support of the possibility of suicide
00:39:30
I'll I want to argue some other things first before we get to those but regarding okay regarding the the mud or
00:39:37
dirt that was found on his suit again you can argue that both ways the review board wants to suggest that that
00:39:45
means he was kneeling down in a manner that he is taught as an officer to stabilize himself before taking a shot
00:39:52
right can't you argue the same point that he was being attacked or in some kind of
00:39:58
scuffle that led him down to his knee and then he was shot and then you have the thing you have the
00:40:06
blood on his uh cuff on the cuff of his shirt which says that he that there couldn't have been somebody forcing his
00:40:13
hand could not have forced his hand there was nobody else present right I would like to see I would like to see
00:40:20
that really mapped out for all of us you know what I mean map this thing out and
00:40:23
show me how that couldn't mean that somebody else was forcibly holding his hand right to me that's just a non-point
00:40:30
you know it's like it doesn't mean anything I don't give a [ __ ] about their opinions on that well the thing is they
00:40:35
could they could have a better understanding of it because they have better knowledge presented to them where
00:40:41
we don't have enough to go oh right I agree with that or disagree with that right but but since I don't I'm just
00:40:48
throwing it out I'm just saying it's not doesn't matter to me well that's why I say I would like to see more I would
00:40:53
like to see that really mapped out for us scientifically to explain how no one else could have been holding his hand
00:40:59
forcing his arm or anything to that manner yeah and then I also wonder uh do we know if he's in a dead Sprint
00:41:08
the reason why I mean this is is is there is there a possibility that he runs around and says stop he fires two
00:41:16
shots and then somehow within his movements it's an accidental shooting to himself
00:41:23
is that possible well and then you have you have the review board saying well his partner for the day says he was
00:41:33
yelling stop not help we're talking about seconds man who who knows what words we're going to use when
00:41:43
we find ourselves in a situation right but if you're in a situation with another person
00:41:50
cops normally say stop it's the cops stop or I'll shoot right so what you know what I mean I I think
00:41:59
would he yell help I right I actually think him yelling stop indicates that there may have been somebody else
00:42:05
present in that vacant lot with him I agree and okay so I think the most damning part the part that may point the
00:42:14
most to Suicide for me is the the very short period of time from the from when he runs into the vacant lot to win his
00:42:23
partner can see what's going on right they say that that's eight seconds that makes it very that's such a short period
00:42:32
of time for someone to get into an altercation with this officer with sooner overpower him three shots ring out one
00:42:41
of them kills Suitor it could happen however I think it's it's such a small piece of time I don't
00:42:50
find it to be very likely the other part of that is the person getting away right
00:42:56
how does how did the individual get away and not be seen in that short of of a time span we're talking about broad
00:43:03
daylight well eight seconds to run into a building is that's not that's not that's pretty quick but but it's doable
00:43:13
you know if I'm on if I'm on the curb and I push you over I could get inside a house within eight seconds yeah
00:43:22
you could too I mean even with your bum leg well here's here's the thing you have to wonder from knowing where the
00:43:29
bullet came from from behind his right ear yeah is it possible that he ran into that vacant lot and he was ambushed I
00:43:37
don't mean gun down I mean that maybe he was in pursuit of someone or thought he
00:43:42
saw something and was in pursuit of that and someone came up from behind him that would explain his
00:43:49
you know they say that look he he's got his radio in his hands so that doesn't indicate a scuffle
00:43:56
he could be calling for help his intention could have been to call for help that would indicate a scuffle right
00:44:02
well you could run in he has his hand on his radio left hand he comes running in
00:44:09
he thinks he sees something he fires fires booms somebody's behind him they grab his arm he pulls it up accidentally
00:44:18
pulls the trigger or purposely pulls the trigger because he thinks he's going to
00:44:21
hit that person boom he's dead you bring up a very interesting thing here could it be
00:44:28
something as simple as he was in fact in pursuit of someone he thought was behaving suspiciously and loses his
00:44:35
footing as as he's yelling stop with with the intention of firing at some point and
00:44:42
ends up mistakenly shooting himself because again how old is he well he would have been
00:44:49
um 43 years old so 43 year old running around the corner and he's going to put down his knee and as he's
00:44:57
doing this and maybe he has his gun up here again you go okay he hits his knee and ah boom it says I
00:45:07
mean nobody can see the dance moves I'm doing but it's possible it's very possible
00:45:13
and look your body breaks down I I don't care what anybody says and well it doesn't who who cares I mean let's say
00:45:20
he's in the prime of his life we all can take a misstep we all can be running full speed and not see see something and
00:45:26
step on it or roll our ankle anything any of that can happen to anyone at any time well and also you're you think
00:45:33
you're in Pursuit you say that before you get out of the car are you a little jumpy because of the area possibly so
00:45:42
um it's it's a possibility well let's go down this road real quick because I've seen conflicting reports
00:45:50
regarding gunpowder residue there are some reports out there that state that they're they they cleaned his hands that
00:45:58
his body was cleaned at the autopsy therefore they couldn't find gunpowder residue that doesn't mean that there
00:46:04
wouldn't have been some there at some point I've also seen other reports that state
00:46:09
emphatically that yes there was gunpowder residue on Sean suter's hand which would indicate that he fired that
00:46:17
gun himself at least one out of those three times I'm going to go with there was gunpowder
00:46:24
residue because the the sources that that come comes from I believe to be more credible right so I'm not saying
00:46:31
I'm not saying 100 that is fact but in my research scene I believe it to be true it seems like everybody's kind of
00:46:38
leaning that way yeah so there have been people that have pointed out well because there was gunpowder residue on
00:46:43
his hand then he had to have shoot himself but then one could argue is it possible
00:46:50
he fired one or two of the shots but not the shot that killed him right and then people have also argued well
00:46:58
would have Suitor have been smart enough to know that they would find gunpowder residue on his hand therefore he
00:47:04
purposely fired more than one shot before killing himself well again and then you wonder about this video as a
00:47:09
doctor in any way is it edited in any way how long did they have this video footage before it's released to the
00:47:15
public the thing that really drives me nuts or really is hard for me to contemplate
00:47:22
this whole suicide thing as again you have a person with you right and so now you're going to try to Stage this
00:47:32
if you're going to Stage this right there would have been easier ways to do it I think well yeah and you're almost
00:47:39
like purposely going hey by the way there's this guy we got to go get him come with me where he could have said
00:47:46
stay back in the car you know radio for help or whatever right he could have said all this stuff
00:47:52
but he's saying no come with me get closer to the area where I'm gonna uh fake my my death yeah I mean I mean
00:48:02
think about this would they talk about all the abandoned houses the vacant houses in that area right Suitor was not
00:48:08
a dumb guy this was a very smart detective face why wouldn't he have said to bemenka hey I think I saw that guy
00:48:17
run into that house over there I'm gonna go in and chase him out to you yeah he could have he could have went into a
00:48:24
space where he would have known there would have been no Witnesses right this vacant lot while it was
00:48:30
vacant and yes there ended up being no eyewitnesses to whatever happened in there
00:48:36
that was a space that it's broad daylight there's a chance someone could have seen him it doesn't seem to me if
00:48:42
we're talking about a smart intelligent detective planning his own suicide to look like a murder
00:48:49
it doesn't look to me like this would be the spot he would pick right and very strange to me that the
00:48:56
whole department would come out initially and say we have a suspect we've seen a suspect our the other
00:49:03
officer the other detective on duty with him saw a suspect this is what we're looking for we're shutting down a whole
00:49:10
part of town and we're gonna infringe on other people's constitutional rights to try to
00:49:17
find this individual and then all of a sudden say yeah there was there was never another suspect we never saw
00:49:23
anybody and by the way this was a suicide and you know what I I have to believe that the description that they were
00:49:30
using when they believed they were looking for a shooter that's gotta come from bemenka saying hey this is what we
00:49:37
thought we saw before the shooting happened this was the the guy that we thought that we saw and that I believe
00:49:44
Suitor was in pursuit of here's a couple here's the other thing though too who knows
00:49:51
uh here I mean this is how far-fetched you can get with these possibilities what if he's did see somebody
00:50:00
right for manka he sees somebody he's saying hey look we saw somebody he might have struggled
00:50:08
with him we don't know if it was eight seconds 18 seconds 20 seconds we're not really for sure right because the the
00:50:14
audio doesn't line up with the visual we don't know well and the visual is not great no I mean it looks I mean it looks
00:50:20
like ants you can't tell what is happening I mean it looks like little blurry dots on the screen you go to our
00:50:27
website and watch it you'll be like well that was a waste of time uh and then thank me later no but it's
00:50:33
like we don't know and then did somebody that they charge with these crimes these
00:50:38
dirty cops did they get to to this cop and say hey you need to forget about the suspect you saw because
00:50:46
they're thinking this bastard is going to throw us under the bus and then he's going to get killed in the line of duty
00:50:51
and his family is going to get taken care of and ours isn't we're going to be stuck in prison
00:50:56
you know you're going to say that you didn't you didn't see anybody you're going to say that this was a suicide and
00:51:03
if you don't say that we'll go after your family I mean that's how far-fetched you can go with these
00:51:09
possibilities you know but to me our initial reports coming from law enforcement if we're going to believe
00:51:16
anything that law enforcement says our initial reports is that we have a suspect and we're shutting down this
00:51:22
whole part of this goddamn City to try to find this suspect because we have a cop killer
00:51:28
you turn around however many days later and say that it was a suicide I just don't I just don't know how much I buy
00:51:35
that well look I can certainly agree with and understand or try to understand because I don't live in that community
00:51:45
I can agree with and try to understand the Viewpoint of the citizens of Baltimore saying we can't trust these
00:51:52
police I still have two eyewitnesses right no I what I'm saying is I get that because
00:51:57
it's proven there was corruption within that department but it's not everyone it's as far as we
00:52:04
know a small it's a faction of that department right so the public is very skeptical and I
00:52:12
think they should be I'm skeptical of the independent review boards findings of what they released is their belief as
00:52:20
to what happened I'm very skeptical of that I actually I don't fully agree with it I think you need to show me more
00:52:26
evidence to tell me that he killed himself yeah I don't think it stands up it doesn't stand up to me and I won't
00:52:33
let it stand in the garage but we want the truth God damn it what the what the Baltimore public will likely say at
00:52:41
least a portion of them is well we can't trust this department to give us the proper information
00:52:46
I'm going to argue on behalf of some of that department and saying this bemenka while I find some of his statements to
00:52:56
be inconsistent I don't think that he knowingly knew anything when he went out there that day
00:53:03
meaning if it was a suicide he didn't know or meaning if it was a setup for Suitor to be taken down he didn't know
00:53:12
either I think that his statements are somewhat inconsistent not because he's being controlled not because there's
00:53:18
some great Puppet Master behind him pulling levers making him do and say things I believe it's because he was out
00:53:25
on the job in the field that day and something horrible happened and I believe that it happened very quickly
00:53:32
and it might be a little sketchy as to the second by second details that you're asking this detective to later give you
00:53:41
so I don't I don't find much problem with the very minor inconsistencies in his story the other thing too is if
00:53:51
Baltimore Police Department if they really wanted to set up Sean Suiter take him down and then cover this thing up
00:53:59
they would have quickly arrested a man matching the very descript very vague description that they put out to
00:54:08
the public at some point and they would have pended on somebody they couldn't find a black man with a black and white
00:54:14
jacket they would have pended on somebody I actually want to give them a little bit of credit that they weren't
00:54:20
bringing forward some innocent guy that's just down on his luck that has no ability financially to defend himself
00:54:28
so we don't have that happening I think I I really call on a question the independent review board's findings here
00:54:35
Captain I don't think that they have convincingly made their argument that Sean Suter killed himself I think at
00:54:43
this day I'll go on record saying that I believe that the original determination
00:54:49
of homicide should still be investigated as such and until we have better information it remains a homicide in my
00:54:57
mind well sticky situation one because there is speculation that maybe he was a dirty cop
00:55:04
but what we do know is we have evidence of him being a good cop and we have evidence that he served and protected a
00:55:13
community and anybody that is going to put their life on the line to protect us we owe them something and we owe their
00:55:22
family something and what this what detective suitors family is owed is to know the truth
00:55:29
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