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[music] [music] >> A nobody death investigation is a homicide case where the victim's body is
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never found. It's an investigation where circumstantial evidence is key. Without
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a body, investigators rely heavily on evidence such as digital forensics like text, calls, other communications and
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[music] >> [music] >> Anna Walsh, a mother of three from Cohasset, Massachusetts, was last seen
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on New Year's Day 2023. Her husband, Brian Walsh, was eventually charged with her murder. In fact, just
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shortly after she went missing. The complicated part of this captain is Anna's body has never been found and
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there's a lot of mystery as to what was going on and who would be responsible for this woman being missing. Now, Brian
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and Anna Walsh had three children together. They lived in Cohasset, Massachusetts, a coastal suburb located
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20 miles south of Boston. And Cohassid is located on the corner of Southshore where greater Boston Harbor ends in
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Massachusetts Bay begins. This is an affluent seaside community with a small population of just under 9,000 people.
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It's a very safe community with very little violence. In fact, police chief William Quigley said there hasn't been a
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murder in town since at least 1995 when he first joined the force. >> Yeah. You want to picture a setting or a
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city like Capeside from the hit TV show from the WB Dawson's Creek. >> And of course, we already mentioned that
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Brian and Anna Walsh were married together. They did have kids. Another unfortunate part of this story. They
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have three sons, all young boys. >> Yeah. All three of their kids were under the age of six years old. In the early
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2000s, Anna immigrated from Serbia to come to this great country. When she gets here, she works various jobs. She
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married a chef. This couple moves to Massachusetts. In early 2008, Anna meets Brian Walsh while she's working as a
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reservations manager. Around the same time here, Captain Anna and her then husband relocated to Washington, DC in
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2011. Brian Walsh visits a friend who is living in South Korea. So, he offers to
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sell his friend's art collection. >> Yeah. >> This includes two original Andy Warhol
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shadow paintings. >> If it's not the Campbell Soup, I don't want it. >> I only know about three Andy Warhol
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paintings. So, forgive me when I see shadow paintings. I don't know exactly which ones they are talking about. But
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>> but Andy Warhol was he's an icon, right? He's not just an artist, my friend. He's
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an icon >> as far as I I'd put him as an icon in what late7s to the 80s. >> So Walsh sells these shadow paintings,
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the authentic shadow paintings we should say, for his friend, sells them to a US
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gallery. These paintings are then resold several times. Eventually, my understanding is they end up outside of
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the United States, >> right? >> But selling off the Friends Art Collection gives Brian Walsh this
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brilliant idea to have some replicas made of [laughter] the famous shadow paintings,
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>> some forgeries. >> That's right. So, he can sell them off, but he wants to pass them off, of
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course, as the originals because they would be very, very valuable. I believe one of them was valued at over $200,000.
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In 2013, Anna and Brian Walsh, they start dating. Now, it's not until sometime the
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following year that her divorce to the chef is finalized. So, in 2014, her divorce is finalized. And sometime in
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2014, Anna texts a friend of Brian's stating that Brian is a violent person. And she
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later reports to police that her boyfriend from Boston threatened to kill her and her friends. But in this report,
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in this complaint, she does not name Brian Walsh in this complaint. So, there's going to be no charges that will
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be brought forward from this police report. In 2015, Brian Walsh sells the fake shadow paintings. Success.
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>> Chaching. >> He sold him to a buyer in France. In December of 2015, Anna and Brian get
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married. The couple moves in with Brian's mother at 225 Beacon Street in Boston.
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>> Yeah. And just a little heads up, if you have a boyfriend that threatens to kill
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you and your friends, that's that's a deal breaker. You should move on with your life. Dump the loser. Move on with
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your life. But she didn't. She ends up marrying him. >> In July of 2016, their first son is
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born. This is when the couple begins flipping properties. And I have hear I question the statement but I but I seen
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in at least one report that they were also renting out properties at some point. Her profession changes. She
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transitions from the hospitality industry to real estate. And Anna joins this firm that specializes in listing
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luxury homes. back to the fake paintings, the the fake artwork. The buyer discovers two Andy Warhol shadow
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paintings for uh So, the way that this went down, Brian lists these air quote famous paintings or the fakes, the
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knockoffs on eBay. He finds this buyer and the two decide that, hey, we're going to do this offline. Brian Walsh
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includes in the listing of this sale a picture of an invoice showing the purchase of the Warhol Foundation
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paintings and the Warhol Foundation numbers that accompany those. So he has legitimate paperwork, right? Because he
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originally had the real >> legitimate paperwork >> paintings in his possession. Yeah. So he
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made forgeries of the legitimate paperwork too to go along with the fake paintings that he's selling. He's trying
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to move these fast because he lists them as we said the they're worth over $200,000. He's listing them for only
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$100,000. So you if you're a buyer and you see a deal like that, remember a lot of times
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if it seems too good to be true, it is. >> Right? So, this buyer and him agree to
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do this offline outside of eBay, and the agreed price is $80,000. And we know that because they end up
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signing a contract together, and then the buyer gives Brian Walsh a cashier's check for $80,000.
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Brian Walsh deposits the check into his bank account and then he starts withdrawing money from this bank account
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using that money from the forgeries >> right >> almost immediately and he uses I think
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over $30,000 of it in the first two weeks. Now at some point this buyer will discover that
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hey these things they're not real. >> Yeah. See, I always wondered too about this. Was there something in the
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paintings or some kind of research that was done to the paintings to figure out that there are forgeries or was it the
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paperwork? It's a couple of things. So, he the the buyer decides to remove the paintings from the frames that they came
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in and that's when they start to put together that hey, these things don't look quite right. So that for one, the
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canvas looked too new to be authentic. The there were staples that were found and there were no Warhol Foundation
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authentication stamps on the actual artwork. So there's a discrepancy basically between what he purchased and
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the photos he could see on eBay on the original listing. It's not until October of 2018
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that Brian Walsh is arrested for selling these fake Andy Warhol paintings. >> Yeah. I'm guessing this is a felony
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because of the the price he was scamming this individual out of. What? $160,000?
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>> 80,000. >> Yeah, but I thought there was two paintings. >> There are, but I think that they were
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sold as a p as a pair, I believe. Um I may have misspoke. Um >> but but yeah, you're right. Regardless,
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it's going to be a substantial amount of money. >> Wouldn't it be funny if they opened up
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the paintings? It was just It just looked like the painting was Xeroxed. [laughter]
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I think there's something wrong here, Sherlock. >> Now, this next part, it makes it a
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little bit complicated and for our timeline. Anyway, he's going to eventually plead guilty to this, but
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that won't take place until April of 2021. And when he does plead guilty to this,
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he is he gets house arrest while he's awaiting sentencing for this. It's it's a complicated matter. We'll circle back
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to it here in a bit. Um but from my understanding here, Captain, he there's four counts that he's originally charged
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with and he'll ultimately plead guilty to three of those four counts. And the punishment for this, there's going to be
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a term of incarceration, supervised release, so some kind of parole fines, restitution that will need
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to be paid as well. So at this time, Brian Walsh, he's then 46, he would ultimately plead guilty to one count of
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wire fraud, one count of interstate transportation for a scheme to defraud, one count of possession of converted
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goods, and unlawful monetary transaction. The charge of wire fraud, you could serve up
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to 20 years in prison for that. My guess is that probably most people don't, but
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you could serve up to 20 years in prison for that. Three years of supervised release, and a fine of $250,000.
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The charge of interstate transportation for a scheme to defraud comes with up to
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10 years in prison, 3 years of supervised release, and a fine of $250,000. And then the charge of possession of
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converted goods is another 10-year in prison, 3 years of supervised release, and a fine of $250,000.
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Yeah. But a lot of times in these cases where there's no victim as far as nobody
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was attacked, nobody was beat up, nobody was killed, that normally if you make a
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plea deal that your sentences are going to be dramatically reduced from what the
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maximum penalty normally is. >> Yes. So ultimately what he's going to get is he's sentenced to 37 months in
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prison, 3 years of supervised release and order to pay restitution of $475,000. As said that that portion of the story
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is kind of dragging on right from 20 what did we say 18 all the way up to 2021 and it's still lingering when this
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next stuff is starts to happen. Okay. Okay. So, in February of 2022, Anna is working as in a new role. This is she's
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the regional general manager for a company called Tishman Spayer in Washington DC. So, she's they still live
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in Massachusetts and there she's commuting every week to and from DC. So, she'll go and stay in
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DC where her work is for the week and then come home basically on the weekends. Yeah. Tough situation when you
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have three sons under the age of six. >> Yes. And Brian and the sons are in Cohasset living in a rental property
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at this time. And as said, Anna's splitting her time between Washington DC and Cohasset on the weekend. In November
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of that year, Anna Walsh is having an affair with a man who lives in DC. She spends Thanksgiving 2022
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with him outside of the country. >> Yeah. I believe at some point she tells her husband Brian that she has a crush
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on this individual, but I don't think she admits to him at the time that she's having an affair.
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>> Yes. And so in December of 2022, Brian's mother hires a private investigator. His
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name is Jeremy Dozer to conduct surveillance on Anna Walsh. They want to catch her in the act.
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>> Yeah, it seems like Brian comes from a little bit of money. I mean, it also makes sense with this whole art deal,
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this fraudulent art deal. But to me, he seems like a somewhat smart but doesn't know how to follow through. But for the
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most part, he's he's a [ __ ] Well, and I don't think that they had a lot of Look, we know that there was an affair
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going on, but it doesn't sound like the private investigator was able to come up
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with a whole bunch of incriminating evidence of the affair. Now, let's go to Christmas Eve, 2022, December 24th,
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2022. And again, it seems like she's spending this day or at least a portion of this
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day with the boyfriend. then eventually spends part of Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. It's Christmas Day when
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she goes back to Massachusetts. Of course, Brian and others are upset that she missed Christmas Eve and most of
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Christmas Day with her family, >> right? And a lot of these individuals that are having affairs, look, if you're
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married and your marriage sucks and you you got some crush on this guy, fine. You know, that happens. But when
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you have kids involved, grow the [ __ ] up, right? And it's like, if you don't want to be with their father and you
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want to be with this other guy, then then break it off. Get a divorce and then go start a new life. But when
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they're doing this, there's a there is a selfishness aspect of this situation. And you just
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feel bad for these three young children cuz they have to deal with the mom doing
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this, but you have and the the ultimate fallout of what their horrible douchebag
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father is going to do. >> Yes. And there's a lot of back and forth between Massachusetts and Washington DC
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in this story. So, I apologize for the complexity of it, but it is as it is here. Now, speaking of divorce, Captain
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on December 27th, Brian Walsh Google searched what's the best state to divorce for a man. But also, this is
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probably why his mother gets a private investigator because this is all roads are leading to them getting a divorce.
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So by getting the private investigator and again you have some states that are that are at fault states. So that's what
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he's trying to do. Oh well if she's at fault then maybe I get custody. Maybe she ends up having to pay me a bunch of
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money. >> Mhm. But [clears throat] what's insane to me is like if if I sold some fake
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paintings, which I'm not saying I'm going to, but if I did and I was caught and I was going to have to spend three
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years in prison, yeah, I probably could do three years in prison, but he's he has to pay back almost $500,000. Like,
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at that point, I'm just jumping off a goddamn bridge. >> Well, and I'm not trying to defend
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anybody having an affair. Um, but we also should keep in mind too on her end, she's got to be thinking like pretty
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soon this guy's going to go away to prison for 3 years, >> right? >> Um, and it doesn't seem like their
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relationship was that great outside of the children to begin with. So now we are at December 28th
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during a dinner with a friend. She's now in Washington DC. And the friend would later report that they believe that Anna
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became uncharacteristically upset. She was talking to her friend about Brian Walsh who is going to be
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incarcerated as a result of that federal case. She has been preparing to leave him and she tells his friend that she
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wants to take the children to Washington DC once the split happens. Now, 3 days later,
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the happy couple, they're hosting a New Year's Eve dinner with a friend of theirs. This makes no sense to me.
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>> We have a report of Anna being last seen at 1:00 a.m. or maybe even 1:30 a.m.
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Okay, so let's go to New Year's Day, January 1st, 2023. Let's say 1:30 a.m. Brian and Anna went
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to bed shortly after that friend left. This seems to be the agreed upon time that that she's last seen, 1 or 1:30
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that night. When police come knocking and asking about where Anna may be, Brian Walsh is going to tell police that
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his wife Anna had to leave for some kind of work emergency and had to fly to Washington DC for her job and that she
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actually left on January [music] 1st, 2023. >> [music] [music] [music] [music] >> All right, we are back. You filthy
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animals, talk hands in the air. >> Cheers to you, [music] Colonel. >> Cheers to you, my friend.
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>> Yeah. So, it's it's weird because it seems like she was reported missing by her job and not anybody [clears throat]
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in the family, which red flag there. >> Yeah. So, she's first reported missing by the co-workers and then later he's
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going to say, "Oh, yeah, she, you know, she is missing. This is when I last saw her." So, she's not reported missing for
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a couple of days. And we've talked about this I I feel like a dozen times on this
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show, but anytime we have these cases that seem to take place around Christmas or New Year's, the holidays really kind
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of jam things up for people reporting things quickly. People go people get busy and it's just the natural state of
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things. If you don't have to work, if you're off for the holidays, nobody really knows that you're missing for a
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period of time because we now know she's been missing since January 1st, not reported until the 4th. He tells police,
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Brian tells the police eventually on the 4th, that his wife left sometime between
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4:00 and 6:00 a.m. that she got a ride share to the airport and she was going to have to go to Washington DC. That's
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about the window of time that he says that she leaves. What we also know that's going on between from 4:55 a.m.
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up until 1:20 p.m., Brian Walsh conducts 20 graphic Google searches about disposing a body, cleaning up blood,
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dismemberment, body decomposition, embalming. So, at 4:55 a.m., the search was, "How long before a body starts to
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smell?" 3 minutes later, how to stop a body from decomposing? Less than an hour later,
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this is just before 6:00 a.m. 10 ways to dispose of a dead body if you really need to.
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>> If you really need to is the strange part of that, like 6:25 a.m., how long for someone to be missing to inherit?
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6:34 Can you throw away body parts? 9:29 a.m. What does formaldahhide do? 9:34 How long does DNA last? 1 minute before
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10:00 a.m. Can identification be made on partial remains? 11:34 a.m. Dismemberment and the best ways to
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dispose of a body. 10 minutes later, how to clean blood from wooden floor. 4 minutes before noon, Luminol to detect
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blood. 10:08 p.m. What happens when you put body parts in ammonia? 1:21 p.m. Is it better to put crime scene clothes
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away or wash them? 5:30 p.m. Surveillance video shows Brian Walsh and his vehicle going to a dumpster. This is
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in the parking lot of a liquor store and he's throwing something in that dumpster. He can be seen throwing
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something in that dumpster before he goes back and gets in his car and drives away.
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>> Yeah. And that's one surveillance footage. There's going to be more that tracks Brian's movements, but I'm
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guessing that there's possibly multiple other stops that he made that we don't have surveillance footage of.
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>> Yeah. So, there there's uh between 5:30 p.m. that night and about 8:00 p.m. that
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night. We don't know exactly where he was or what he was up to, but we know he returns home at approximately 8:00 p.m.
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that night. So, we have two and a half hours of I mean, he could be I hate to say it, but I my guess is he's
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driving around and disposing of items around in several different parts of town.
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>> So, the shopping spree that he went on is actually before this, correct? >> Well, so no. So he it's January 2nd, the
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following day is when he's seen at a Home Depot store and he's wearing gloves and he's wearing
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a like a surgical mask, the mask that we were wearing during CO, >> right? >> And this is when he's seen purchasing
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over $400 worth of cleaning supplies. >> Wasn't this a Lowe's? I have Home Depot
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in my notes here, but >> because what I have is that he went to Lowe's, he went to CVS, and he went to
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HomeGoods. >> Yes, I could be wrong. He could have went to Home Depot as well. >> Forgive me because you we both are
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right. He's doing these shopping trips on two days. Okay. So, actually before he goes to that dumpster, you're
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absolutely right. He went to he claims that he spent the day visiting his mother on January 1st.
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>> His mother's a trip >> and that he's running errands for her. Okay. So, we don't have any surveillance for this.
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Uh but it's believed that he went to a CVS and a Whole Foods. The Lowe's trip captain happens on the 4th. Whatever
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he's doing, he's not doing it very quickly. The shopping trip on January 2nd is Home Depot in Rockland. And he
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purchases tarps, mops, tape, hatchet, a hatchet, and gloves. And he purchased this with cash. These are a cash buy
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here. And >> I think all of his transactions are going to be cash except for one that I
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think he made with a gift card. Later that day, his search searches, internet searches include, "Hacksaw, best tool to
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dismember, can you be charged with murder without a body, and can you identify a body with broken teeth?"
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>> Some very incriminating searches. >> January 3rd, there was supposed to be a flight. Anna was supposed to have a
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flight. She never boards this plane. And on the same day, we have more internet searches. One at 1 pm that says, "What
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happens to hair on a dead body?" 11 minutes later, "What is the rate of decomposition on a body found in a
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plastic bag compared to on a surface in the woods?" Also searched, "Can baking soda mask or make a body smell good?"
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And then at 4:27 p.m., surveillance shows Brian disposing of heavy trash bags at three apartment complex
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dumpsters. >> Yeah. And on one of the trips, one of the shopping trips, we we see Brian on
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surveillance footage, but he's with his six-year-old son. >> Classy move. >> And he does one of those selfch checkout
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and as he's doing the selfch checkout. So, we have him on the camera of the selfch checkout.
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>> But he has his son help him scan the items that he's purchasing. It's pretty pretty haunting when you think of that
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image. Well, and later on that third he's he goes to several apartment complexes and it's believed that he's
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disposing of items in the dumpsters at these different apartment complexes. On January 4th, it's when he visited a
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HomeGoods and a TJ Maxx to buy towels and bath mats and then visited the Lowe's, which is the one that if
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anybody's caught pieces of this story on the news, it's been on the news a lot lately. This is the picture that you're
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seeing here. This part in the timeline is where he can be seen at the Lowe's and he's buying a squeegee or squeegee
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and a trash can and some other items. Now, on this same day, key here is this is when Anna is reported missing by her
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co-workers. Remember, Brian Walsh claims to police that, yeah, I last saw her early on January 1st and she had to take
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a ride share to Boston Logan International Airport. Yeah, but even if you're having troubles in your marriage,
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you're still married. You're responsible for the children. How many times is he trying to contact her within that
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period? And I think it would be reasonable if he has nothing to do with her disappearance. It's reasonable for
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him to call cops as soon as January 2nd when he goes, "Hey, I'm calling her phone and yeah, I saw her leave and she
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took this uh ride chair and she was going to jump on a plane cuz she had this emergency at her work. Well, I can't get
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a hold of her. But that never happens. He never reports her missing ever. >> When they go to do this welfare check
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and they talk to him, they notice that there's a plastic liner inside his vehicle.
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>> Not good. >> Yeah. This is going to give them probable cause here. And then the topper
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is going to be Well, she he says that she left for emergency work problem on the first, right? Well, when they ping
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her phone, they track her phone. Her phone is pinging as it's still inside their home.
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>> Yeah. >> On January 2nd. >> And again, if you had a concerned husband that was trying to call her,
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chances are he would have found her phone. And then that would be again reason to call the police and say, "Hey,
00:33:00
my my wife went to this uh emergency work thing, but she left her phone. I can't get a hold of her. Nobody's heard
00:33:07
from her." But none of this happens. >> Yeah. And so with that his vehicle, they
00:33:12
later detect blood, positively detected blood inside that vehicle. >> Yeah. >> On January 5th, 2023, there's a public
00:33:22
appeal issued by the police. They are asking people to search their yards. The police are actively searching
00:33:33
the wooded areas and they're collecting video evidence and hoping to figure out where she may have went or what happened
00:33:43
to Anna Walsh, who was aged 39 at the time. The public appeal is a missing person's appeal, right? They're they're
00:33:51
giving out her description. She's 5'2 inches tall, weighs about 115 pounds, brown hair, brown eyes, olive
00:33:57
complexion. They're of course not getting any calls or any tips as to where she may be. The search efforts for
00:34:05
her included K-9 teams and state police air units. They had 20 troopers. Captain
00:34:13
20 state troopers. Now, let's get to January 8th here. Captain Brian Walsh is questioned by investigators about his
00:34:22
searches on the internet and the searches that they discovered on his six-year-old son's iPad. So they have
00:34:30
him at the station conducting a a thorough interview of him and they are equipped with information saying, "Hey,
00:34:38
somebody in your home using this iPad and using your home internet is searching for things like does the dish
00:34:46
dishwasher remove blood from a knife?" >> Yeah. >> How to stop a body from decomposing? And
00:34:52
that's when Brian should have said, "Yeah, my son's into some weird shit." >> Yeah. I've I've confiscated the iPad.
00:35:00
>> Some say he's on the spectrum of being a Jeffrey Dmer type. >> So, shortly after all of this, Captain,
00:35:06
we have Brian who is arrested and he is initially charged with misleading the police in an investigation. But it was
00:35:16
on January 8th that police revealed that they found blood and a broken knife in the family's basement and that they had
00:35:23
that surveillance footage of Brian Walsh wearing a medical mask and surgical gloves purchasing those cleaning
00:35:31
supplies at the Home Depot. And then you referenced some of the other purchases and surveillance footage of those as
00:35:39
well. This evidence piling up goes from an ant hill to a giant mountain pretty quick. So he's wearing this is what's
00:35:48
difficult though because he's wearing this monitoring bracelet because remember he got caught selling the fake
00:35:55
Andy Warhol paintings, >> right? >> So he's under house arrest. He's allowed to leave the home for things like going
00:36:02
to doctor's appointments in the grocery store. And from my understanding, I I hate when they call these monitoring
00:36:11
bracelets. This one doesn't have GPS tracking on it from my understanding. So, how how much monitoring how much
00:36:17
monitoring are they doing? It almost seems like this this thing is no different than uh than the watch I wear.
00:36:23
My guess is that maybe maybe it triggers some kind of alert if he's gone for >> too long.
00:36:30
>> For too long. I hope there is some actual monitoring that's being done. So, we do know that the police also
00:36:36
attempted to find items in the local landfill there as the landfill would be the obvious destination for whatever was
00:36:46
in those dumpsters. And again, he went to multiple dumpsters. It would be 10 days later that he's eventually charged
00:36:55
with murder. And then it would be March of 2023 when he was actually indicted by a grand
00:37:02
jury. So, this is three charges here, Captain. Murder, misleading a police investigation, and improper transport of
00:37:09
a human body. >> Yeah, he's what you call a real piece of [ __ ] >> The jury selection for his trial took
00:37:15
place this November 2025. As if this story is not weird enough, look at all this evidence they have
00:37:23
against him. At some point, Brian's going to switch from, "Hey, innocent," to now he's got a story to tell us.
00:37:29
Right? So Brian's defense, >> and hold on, it's a whale of a story. >> Yes. Brian's defense is that Anna Walsh
00:37:37
died suddenly of some kind of unexplained death. Okay. So he says, "I found her unresponsive in our bed. She
00:37:46
wouldn't wake up. This was after we were celebrating New Year's Eve." He says he
00:37:51
panicked and started searching the internet how to dispose of the body because he's saying and eventually his
00:37:57
defense attorney Larry Tipton will be saying this as well that no one would believe me that she just one minute
00:38:04
she's alive and the next minute she's dead. So I panicked and had to dispose of her. Yeah. She was a young healthy
00:38:11
woman and because of all their problems and everybody knows they're heading they're heading to a divorce. He's
00:38:18
heading to prison. he's going to be responsible for all this money that he has to pay back because he's going to
00:38:25
prison. He's going to lose probably custody of his children. So, this isn't going good for him at all. But either
00:38:33
way, this is the mother of your children. If you find her dead in your home, what do you do about it? Do you try to
00:38:42
rescue her? Do you try to save her? Do you try to call 911? at least Google search how does somebody die suddenly.
00:38:51
But that's not what the Google searches are. The Google searches are how to dismember a body and and how to
00:38:58
basically dispose of this body. >> Yes, prosecutors, they were stating that they believe that Brian Walsh was
00:39:05
motivated by money. He was the sole beneficiary of his wife's over $2 million life insurance policy and also
00:39:15
motivated by the affair that she was having with the realator in Washington DC. Now, his defense team is going to
00:39:24
say, "No, not so fast. He didn't kill his wife. They called him a loving husband and father who didn't even know
00:39:34
about the affair." The closing arguments by the prosecution state that Brian Walsh methodically cut up the body of
00:39:43
Anna Walsh and disposed of her body parts in different dumpsters, saying, quote, "He needed her dead." End quote.
00:39:53
The jury deliberation started on Friday, December 12th in the afternoon. Well, and wait before we get to that though,
00:40:03
because what the jury wasn't privy to during the whole trials that Brian Ari plead guilty to certain crimes.
00:40:12
>> Yes. >> And they were made aware of that, I believe, by the judge right before they
00:40:18
were in deliberations to come up with a verdict. A lot of people just thought, man, this is opensh case, so the
00:40:25
verdict's going to come back pretty quickly. It didn't. But I wonder if being being hit with this very damning
00:40:33
and crazy information right before you go into deliberations, is that part of the the the holdup of them coming up
00:40:42
with a verdict? >> Well, I have that they came up. So, it was December 15th, the following Monday,
00:40:49
that he's found guilty of murder in the first degree. And it was Yes. nearly two
00:40:55
weeks of testimony in Norfolk County Superior Court. And you're you're absolutely right, Captain. I I'm with
00:41:03
you. It's like, so this guy's whole defense is, yeah, I disposed of her body. I'm not going to tell you where I
00:41:11
put her, and you're not going to be able to recover her, but I didn't kill her. You know, it's like one of the most
00:41:18
bizarre defenses I've ever heard. So, I'm with you. I thought two days is all is the only test. But you when you when
00:41:27
you have the evidence and you have the ability to do so, especially when you don't have a body, you have to lay it on
00:41:34
pretty thick, right? And you have to go over in detail so the jury is made aware
00:41:40
of how strong your case is, leaving no question about what our accusations are and that we we believe them to be 100%
00:41:51
true. And of course, we [clears throat] know that the jury agreed with that. There was no reaction in the courtroom
00:41:59
from Brian Walsh. I don't know if you saw this, but I there was something on court TV where they zoomed in on his
00:42:08
face when they were getting ready to read the verdict. After he's announced that he's guilty, he's handcuffed,
00:42:16
shackled, and they take him out of the courtroom. Eventually, we will learn that he's going to receive a life in
00:42:26
prison sentence for killing his wife, Anna Walsh. And those three young children are now in state custody. From
00:42:35
my understanding, >> Brian Walsh had a what seems to be a a reputable defense team, but a lot of
00:42:42
people that weren't in that courtroom were like, "Man, this guy seemed defeated at every pass." But the defense
00:42:49
team did tell everybody, tell the jury, "Hey, we might not have all the answers,
00:42:54
but the but the true story is going to come out when we put Brian on the stand." Well, Brian never went on the
00:43:01
stand. So, I think >> originally originally he said that he was going to take the stand or at least
00:43:07
his defense says that he's going to and then then what it looks like is kind of at the 11th hour, right? He decides not
00:43:14
to take the stand. >> Yeah. And I think the prosecution because you have no body, so we don't
00:43:20
know how she was killed. I mean, you can speculate, well, maybe she was poison, maybe he stabbed her to death. We don't
00:43:27
know. Um, I think you would know more. uh if you went through those Google searches and went through them with a
00:43:36
fine fine tooth comb to figure out like what was he searching first? Uh but then
00:43:42
when you're hit with hey he he disposed of her body and he dismembered her. There you go. I mean, to me, you go open
00:43:50
and shut case, but again, I think some of it is confusion. And I can't remember if it was on court TV or something else,
00:43:57
but some quote unquote expert was like he had somebody else help him because uh dismembering a body is normally a
00:44:05
twoperson job. What I mean, I [laughter] out of all the things I heard in 2025, I
00:44:12
think that's one of the dumbest things I've heard. We we have plenty of situations where people have dismembered
00:44:19
their victims by themselves. >> Yes, we've we've covered a lot of cases unfortunately where dismemberment is
00:44:26
part of the case, part of the crimes committed and many many times done as a solo act.
00:44:37
And I think what you have to look at here too is nobody's with him on these trips, right? We these trips that he's
00:44:46
taking to collect materials, the trips that he's taking to dispose of materials,
00:44:54
with the exception of his son being there for one of them, he appears to be by himself,
00:45:01
>> right? uh on a lot of these trips and it unfortunately whatever however he was able to get rid
00:45:09
of the evidence that all took place inside that home inside the family's home very likely in the basement of that
00:45:20
home. I mean this is just a a slimy dude. There's just something. I mean, of course, the murder, of course, the other
00:45:28
crimes, but this I just look at him and it's he's a slimy sl. And and we've talked about this before, you have to be
00:45:36
a certain type of person to dismember a body. And so, I think somebody needs to look into his history more. You know,
00:45:47
where [clears throat] did he go university, where he worked? Is there any missing person? Is there any rumors
00:45:53
of him dating somebody that just kind of disappeared? I wouldn't put it past him
00:45:58
because this, like I said, takes a special individual. And then you have these these crimes with the forgery.
00:46:05
[gasps] Okay, I'm going to paint this picture. I'm not saying that this happened, but
00:46:11
his defense team, even other people were like, well, she told him, Anna told Brian that she had a crush on this
00:46:18
individual. It later comes out even in the trial that this this affair was confirmed, but they were saying, "Oh,
00:46:24
well, he wasn't a jealous type." Well, he might not have been that because we we don't have a body. We don't know the
00:46:32
motive. I actually wonder because like I said when you were saying the story how
00:46:36
they had this this gathering. I wonder if he tried to poison her because it it almost seems like people were hanging
00:46:44
out and then she disappears as far as like well she's going to go to bed and then does some people leave and not say
00:46:51
goodbye to her and so like think about that like oh we have this party and I poison you but you collapse or die while
00:46:58
there's other people around then they they essentially somewhat become my alibi. So, I'd wonder if I'd wonder if
00:47:07
there's any searches on any uh of these items for anything about poison a victim
00:47:12
or not. But where my mind wonders is did she have any involvement in these sales?
00:47:21
I don't think that's maybe information that we could find, but is it is it is it something that he can't you know, cuz
00:47:29
he's a slime ball? Like you said, this guy is utterly a piece of [ __ ] but did he come up with the idea and then then
00:47:39
explains to her the idea and she goes, "Oh, no, that's a good idea and we could make a little bit of money and that
00:47:43
could start some of our real estate endeavors and blah blah blah." And then because to me it's like again I can see,
00:47:50
oh, if she's having an affair and and and okay, everybody knows that she told her husband that she had a crush on the
00:47:57
guy. Did she eventually tell him that they had an affair? Is that the straw that broke the camel's back? Is that the
00:48:04
motivation for him to kill her, behead her, dismember her, dispose of her? Or is it more than that?
00:48:12
>> I think it's probably all of the above. And the thing that we can't, >> you know, the the obvious thing to point
00:48:19
to here is >> I agree with the prosecution when they're saying that we believe he was
00:48:25
motivated not just by the affair, but also he's the sole beneficiary of Anna's $2.7 million life insurance policy. And
00:48:35
remember, one of those >> See, that's not that's not what I have as the insurance policy. what I have as
00:48:41
the insurance policy or what he would have received which he was uh he would have been a a benefactor of that but
00:48:49
also the three children would be is it's $220,000. It's twice her annual annual salary. So
00:48:57
to me that seems like a a life insurance policy that is not extreme. Right. >> Right.
00:49:04
>> And also like you have three young children so it would make sense. I mean, I don't know where you're getting the$2
00:49:10
point some million dollars, but again, you have a guy that his life before this was crashing all around him. He's going
00:49:20
to lose his freedom for at least, okay, he's sentenced for three. He's probably going to get out in what, a year and a
00:49:26
half, maybe two. Unless that's just like you get three years and there's no time
00:49:31
off for good behavior. Plus, you're going to be monitored. Plus, you got to pay all this money back because of all
00:49:37
these things. Because you're a slime ball because because of all these things now, you're losing your wife. You're
00:49:43
going to lose custody of your kids. And then if she moves away because you're in
00:49:48
prison, you can't stop that. If you get a divorce and let's say you live in Ohio
00:49:53
and your ex-wife gets custody of the kids and she wants to move to Michigan, she has to come up with some damn good
00:50:01
reasons why she's going to take the kids away from the father. And that's something that the father can fight for.
00:50:07
And it's actually something that the state is like, "Nah, you're going to have to work out some kind of deal.
00:50:12
Maybe even leaving the kids here and you not getting custody. Hey, we'll let you
00:50:16
move. and we'll let you take this work opportunity or whatever it is, but we're not going to let the kids leave, but
00:50:24
when you're in prison, he wouldn't be able to fight for this. Like I said, sick son of a [ __ ] is losing
00:50:30
everything. I think on some level, he wanted somebody else to suffer. I think he wanted somebody else to lose
00:50:36
everything. And I think he took out his anger on his wife. Now, I think it was hard for the prosecution to come up with
00:50:42
that story. And I think also the prosecution in the back of their head, they're going, "Well, we know he
00:50:49
admitted to dismemberment and disposing of the body, but we can't say that." So,
00:50:55
it's uh this is this case is so weird and bizarre. >> Yeah. I was pointing to the Google
00:51:04
search of how long someone missing to inherit. So he's he's actively trying to figure out
00:51:12
how long does this person have to be missing for before I can inherit the life because if the person's missing,
00:51:19
they're not technically dead, right? As far as that that contract goes for the life insurance. Now, it was NBC News
00:51:27
that reported that it was a $2.7 million life insurance policy. At court, it was
00:51:33
testified that uh by an insurance agent that Anna Walsh had a $1 million term life insurance policy and a $250,000
00:51:44
whole life insurance policy. >> Okay. Brian Walsh will not see a penny of that. What he's going to be seeing a
00:51:52
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