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[Music] okay good afternoon I want to thank everybody for coming out uh we're here
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today to because we need to know and find out what happened to Kena Jenkins um you're sitting here looking
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at her Mother Teresa Martin who on August 16th underwent a double myectomy and a couple of weeks later she traveled
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to the Crown Plaza Hotel in search of her daughter explicitly telling them and asking them to help her find her
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daughter asking them to show the videotapes because she knew her daughter was on the premises up to today's date
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we still have not received the entirety of the video showing what happened to Kena Jenkins uh we've asked you to come
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here today because they been a lot of things said out there in the media about what happened including that there is
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some videotape showing and displaying her walk into a freezer um we've been given some Snippets of video I'd say
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less than 30 to 40 minutes of video out of 36 hours and none of that video shows
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kenneka Jenkins walking into a freezer so still today we have the question and we're committed to finding out what
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happened to Kena Jenkins the Snippets um show a young lady who's disoriented a young lady who clearly is
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in need of some attention she's trying to find her way no one from Crown Plaza Hotel
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responds to her no one from Crown Plaza Hotel um is seeking to provide assistance to her and for over a
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day um approximately a day and a half apparently she was some how down in this freezer and they have no way of
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explaining or they haven't to this date at least explained how someone got into an area that clearly or apparently was
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not being utilized and a freezer that apparently was on and not being um not being used
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in function function so Miss Martin has asked us to conduct an independent investigation we've
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committed to her that we will not stop till we get all of the video we will not stop till we get all of the recordings
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we will not stop till we get all of the statements because we want to give her an explanation and she's entitled to an
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explanation as to what happened to her daughter on that evening I can tell you that in my line
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of work I've come across some very strong individuals but after hearing some of the 91 on one tapes after having sat
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down and met kena's mom I've never met anybody strong what she could do for her daughter was unlimited you're going to
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hear I'm sure they're going to end up releasing the 911 tapes you're going to actually see hopefully they'll release
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it today hopefully we can get today the video we've been asking for for the last
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48 hours but you are going to hear when those tapes are released least M Martin called up and asked time
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and time again please check the vide tapes at the hotel my daughter is missing she went after having an
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infection in her chest after having a double myectomy went over 5:00 in the morning begging the hotel to please just
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check the videotapes in a vacuum that might sound innocuous but what we have at least been
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told through you the media there are 47 cameras and 36 hours of tape that they never looked for they never checked they
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never searched they never did anything while a young 19-year-old disoriented girl is sitting in their freezer now
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there has to be an answer to how that happened better yet there has to be an answer to why that happened why why is
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Teresa sitting here having now to go over to the corners to pick up her child when on their videotape in their hotel
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in their freezer all they had to do was watch it I have guaranteed this mom guaranteed
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her we will get to the bottom of it we will only go to where the facts lead us that's right but once we are there we
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will have answers that I promised and that I promise you there are a lot of people wondering
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what happened to this young lady it's it's a community concern she's a 19-year-old girl who is apparently found
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in a freezer um after day after a day and a half of being asked for and they they she's been asked they've asked for
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videos for a day and a half the mom went to the front desk asking will you please
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look at the videos from the very beginning and got nothing but resistance from the Crown Plaza
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Hotel I did not receive contact all of you have been able to reach reach me and and call me and we have not received it
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look look look look we are here right now it's not hard it's not hard they don't know like they don't know where
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power Rogers and Smith is bring the tape now that's not hard that that that's what you call spin I don't want to sound
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like the the national that's what you call spin what what's happened here is they're mad because the protesters are
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out front they're going to tell you anything they want what we want to know is if they if they offered it they can't
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send the messenger they can't send somebody over here with the tape right now and then they could prove us wrong
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so that's my point what we want to know is where is it we want to see it I'm not
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going to worry about the last 48 hours I'm going to worry about the next 48 hours I want to know when this uh mother
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here a grieving mother is going to see the tape in the next 48 hours when you can answer that and when they can answer
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that then I care I don't care what happened 48 hours ago get us the tap now get us the tap
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now yes I thank everybody for your help the love and support but I also want to know what
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happened I want to see all I want to see her liter actually walking into this freezer and closing us up within this
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freezer and freezing to death race is not of importance to me right now until I know what happened it
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is it something that could come up I expected it maybe it could I don't know as of right now that's not my concern
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I'm not looking for I'm not what I'm not trying to do is I'm not trying to have an answer and then get the facts to
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support my answer I want to have my facts that will lead me to the answer because that's what is due to her if
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this was was about an agenda I could come in here and give you whatever spin I wanted Larry and I are't going to do
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that we want we truly and honestly want to know what happened so that we can have this poor woman know what happened
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to her daughter at the end of the day that's all this is we have a child who is dead and a mother who doesn't know
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why and that's the only thing Larry and I are trying to get to everything else can go to the Wayside because I know
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what it's like to be a father and I know what it's like to have a sick child I can't imagine what it's like to have one
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that is deceased and you don't know why and that's all we're trying to do one of
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the first things she I said to her when she called was I'm glad you called because you needed help she's on TV
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asking the same questions and then I find out she's going to the front desk and not getting any assistance and I
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told her I'm glad you called I want to help you yes I to be honest I don't know what Mr
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Holmes saw or he didn't I I I have no idea and and quite frankly to our investigation it's irrelevant I
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understand that this is a media case I understand that but that really doesn't affect us we're not moved by any
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protests we're not moved by any any protesters or activist we are only moved by trying to find out what happened to
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Kena other than that I don't make it expect I don't care because that doesn't get me to where we need to be which is
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why is Kena dead that's where we need to [Music] be the mysterious death investigation of
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young 19-year-old Kena Jenkins it has led us to this Captain we've we've seen the video we've talked about what we saw
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in the video um but we would be remiss if we didn't talk about what others are saying is hiding in the frames of that
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video yeah um and to give this kind of a good overview is that there are a few spots
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throughout these little Snippets that we've seen you know some of these are might be shadows that some people say
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that they see a man waiting to jump out at Kena some say that they see two guys or maybe even a guy and a girl following
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her at different times during the these Snippets that we've seen there's one portion in particular where people say
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that they can see a hand reaching out from a side hallway this is where she kind of turns back to the cam camera
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stumbles a bit and there's a hallway to her right it would be to our left as we view her where it looks like almost like
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someone just very quickly sticks out their hand and tries to grab her her jacket or her leg um this very well
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could be I've looked at this portion of the video over and over again and I in full honesty here there have been a
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couple times where I thought I saw a hand the majority of the time I think I'm just seeing a shadow or some kind of
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reflection um that that may give an appearance of something coming out from that hallway
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well I think it depends on how much you've been drinking well the the other thing too is you know I don't know that
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everybody's this way but I am if I sit there and I watch something too many times in a row I might start seeing
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something that that isn't there you know what I mean uh but but my overall opinion of that is that that is some
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kind of shadow that she is casting on the corner of that wall as she's moving closer to it well and all these clips
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are pixelated mhm so I mean sometimes that makes it a little bit harder to distinguish what you're seeing now
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there's one spot in particular that's been of great interest MH and this would be at the end of the video and I say the
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end of the video because these are all kind of Snippets that are thrown together to create this full length
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quote unquote full length video that we've seen and we know we're not seeing all the footage but there's a portion
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where she walks back to what I believe is some type of freezer or back portion to that kitchen where they say that you
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can see a guy or an arm trying to grab her or pull her in that direction now a lot of people including myself believe
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that that's where that freezer is located I hate to kind of flip this thing on its side and tell you that
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we're wrong myself included but I have heard a a recent interview with one of the gentlemen you heard the two Two
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Gentlemen there that are representing kenneka Jenkins family the two lawyers yes so there is a recent uh thing that
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came out interview with him where he's stating that after they had walked the hotel and after they were able to
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compare what they saw on those video Snippets to what they saw in real life walking the hotel looking at the walls
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and the floors and the doors and everything he's saying that that kitchen that we see her in at the end of the
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video it it's not the freezer it's not the same kitchen that she was eventually found in right and like we said before
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that there's these kind of like remote kitchens that they set up for different events or if they run out a ballroom or
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something like that for a wedding or a reunion or something so it's possible that she was in multiple remote type
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kitchens and that doesn't mean that there's not a person there kind of grabbing her or pulling her or leading
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her in some type of direction that doesn't mean it just means that you know when you
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think that okay we're seeing the last seconds before she's going into the freezer that's probably not the case
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it's it's probably more what this gentleman says that that's not the kitchen that she was eventually found in
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I did get on the hotel's website I you know Captain you know that I'm not the best guy for these type of task for
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internet I couldn't locate like a like a layout or a floor plan of the hotel but
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you know if if you go to the library with him he'll take you to that card catalog show you how it's done You're
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darn skippy uh but the thing here is Captain I did notice when I was on that particular uh website of that particular
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Hotel they had multiple um they had multiple I there's a restaurant there's like kind of a quick grab and go kind of
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thing um so it wouldn't surprise me if we're dealing with multiple kitchens and then on top of that this is considered
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like a conference Center type Hotel so it's a larger one where they're going to host events um like you had mentioned uh
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weddings and and stuff of that nature so who knows how many kitchens are in that
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hotel now but to be honest with you there is one spot there's only one spot for me that I have a big problem with
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there's a tiny little spot on the tape that I that I feel I see something that if these videos are not altered in any
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way well then this shouldn't be there uh there is just a split second when she is
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this is I guess when she first walks into the kitchen where I see kena's head down and you can clearly see her hair
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hanging in front of her MH um but you see a face and it's it's not kena's face it appears to be like a a young black
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man's face wearing a hoodie or a dark hoodie um I can't say with 100% certainty that that that's what I'm
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seeing it could be some kind of Illusion it could be any number of things Reflections Shadows or anything like
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that but I believe that I'm seeing her with her head down in something or someone that might be just to the side
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of her you know walking walking with her MH she's on her feet but if this is true
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what I'm seeing it almost appears like this person would be guiding her yeah it's definitely 100% not true what
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you're seeing because look if you freeze the frame it does look like somebody's behind her
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holding her up maybe there's an arm around her waist and there's a hoodie and you see a face right if you freeze
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the frame mhm but the couple steps it takes her for to get into the kitchen you don't see anybody no I get
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that and you don't see anybody afterwards right so did this this anomaly just I mean you don't no what
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what what persons are saying is that this is or what you said well hang on a second you're putting words in my mouth
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you just said we could rewind the tape no I know what I said but I want I want to be very clear about this what people
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are saying that you are seeing there is that they have photoshopped somebody out
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of the video and this was a portion where he is visible and they did not catch it before they photoshopped this
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out okay okay so you're saying they okay this is what the conspiracy guys and girls are saying all right that there's
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there's been somebody photoshopped out of portions of this video right more so than the than the one that I say I see
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something you know they're talking about her being followed in the hallways and and there were Shadows that were
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forgotten to be removed that they just removed the person um all I'm saying here is I said I can't say with 100%
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certainty that I'm seeing a person there what I what I'm saying is for a second there for that Split Second I see
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something that I cannot explain I cannot say if it's Kena by herself I cannot say
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if these conspiracy people are are wrong you know I I'm just when I there's one very tiny little spot where I see
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something that I can't say with 100% certainty what I'm looking at like I said we just watched it so that at that
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one spot it's like well that's weird can't explain that but again you have very bad cameras you got
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a lot of pixelation so it's very hard to tell you know it would take a lot of work to photoshop somebody out I think
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one of the reasons why when you hear this conspiracy theory it makes some sense is because the way in which she is
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moving is so unnatural at some points right leaning back so far where it's like it's almost like she had you know
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she has to be being Guided by something and and I think that's when you watch it and then you if
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somebody if somebody said to you hey watch this clip and by the way somebody is walking beside her but they
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photoshopped her out you'd go well that makes some logical sense mhm but you know how much work it would take for
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them to photoshop somebody out no I understand it would be very difficult and that's
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why I think that if somebody did do that there's a chance they made a mistake where along the along the lines there um
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yeah but hear me out too you got to follow the money if there is this suspect that is
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guiding her from the party we should assume it's from the party and led her into the
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freezer then this is murder you charge that person with murder is the hotel at fault are they liable for
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anything I'd argue no I think you're on to something here because I think I don't know the
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legality of the whole thing as far as lawsuits go but I would have to believe that yes if you have video of somebody
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leading her to the freezer you're a lot less liable than if she's walking by herself yeah I believe that I think
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you're on to something there um right so who has control of the tapes so you're going to say that this
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hotel um is so um they're they're either trying to cover their ass so much or or
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they're so racist that they photoshopped out and you know this suspect well I'm not saying that they did that I'm not
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saying you I'm saying what I am saying is they kind of set themselves up for that didn't they when you don't when you
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hold on to the tapes when you make a delay in releasing them when you won't let the mother see them when you delay
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getting them to the police well then people call in question what they're seeing and why why did it take so long
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for it to get to the rest of us I don't question them on how long it took for them to get the tapes to the mother or
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to their attorneys or to law enforcement I don't question that because we got a lot of footage that they had to sift
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through and maybe again maybe they had to call it person there are people you know I I'd play in chain bars mhm and if
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there was a problem with the sound system they didn't have anybody in town that could fix it there's plenty of
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sound companies that could fix it in town but because they're a big chain they have one guy and he lives in
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Florida so we have to fly him right mhm so there could have been some it guy that had to you know fly out or drive a
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couple hours sift through all the information cut the clips like we were saying before the 5 Seconds here and
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there that make no sense you don't need those edit them down give them to the people I don't have an issue with that
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the big issue I have with the hotel and what frustrates me to no end you have a mother that comes
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down that is you know seems like a very nice person seems like a very intelligent person she she doesn't you
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know she's not screaming you know especially like on the 911 call she's very Cal calm cool
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collect she comes down hours after her daughters found missing or not found missing but reported missing and she
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asking for the tapes then mhm you should be reviewing those tapes they should have reviewed those tapes and look they
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don't have to have the mom see those tapes but if they would have reviewed those tapes they would have been able to
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find her daughter and possibly she' still be alive today MH and that's what that's my biggest problem with the hotel
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I agree I agree I don't think that they did everything immediately that they could have and should have
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and therefore who knows just go ahead and say it because this is true crime garage
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they didn't do their due diligence right right and who knows what the outcome would have been if this process was sped
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up quite a bit well and this is not the only footage that we need to discuss no cuz there there is footage of the actual
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party itself inside the hotel room mhm uh and it looks like you said about 30 people in there um probably ages 18 to
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25 I would guess that's what was reported is roughly about 30 people yeah I didn't count heads when when I was
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viewing the video but I'd say roughly 30 people some of them hard to watch cuz the you know they're not professional
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camera people at time yeah this is filmed on somebody's phone and at times the party seems during this video anyway
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seems very loud uh I believe people are smoking in that hotel room um there so there's only really two things that I
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want to point out one's kind of small and one is very big in my opinion the first one being is there is a a man
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there a young man who's in the in the middle of the party and at some point I clearly hear him say to another person
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that oh was that the manager or oh the manager just left it what I gather from that is that
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at some point the manager probably got called to this room or to that floor because the party was so loud probably
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knocked on the door spoke to somebody for a brief second or two and then left I was a little surprised by just the
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five minutes that I saw on the video that the party wasn't broken up yeah there immediately um it seemed to me
00:27:38
like they were they were doing things on this video that shouldn't have been allowed in that in within the walls of
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that hotel yeah it makes you wonder though did they know this manager I mean you can't smoke in a hotel anymore no
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and I can't believe I from what I saw I would be shocked if when he opened up the door here or she the manager opened
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up the door that they didn't see obvious signs immediately of of that rule being
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broken yeah some people just don't want to do their jobs though so it's I I guess that's the first thing that I that
00:28:10
I spotted now I think the big thing that I spotted is that a lot of these women do not look
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21 and it's clear that people are drinking right so you know whether it's the smoking or the drinking it's like
00:28:25
hey well again like I said I I believe it would been very easy to spot that there are several rules or laws being
00:28:32
broken within the that hotel room that would have been caused to break up that party mhm or notify the authorities well
00:28:39
I need to break up this party real quick we'll be right back after this quick beer
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today [Music] all right cheers mates we are back okay we're talking about video footage from
00:31:18
the actual party itself uh that was filmed on somebody's cell phone yeah so we're guessing like uh Facebook live or
00:31:25
maybe Snapchat and to give a kind of a quick rundown of what the video is is it appears that somebody is one showing
00:31:33
themselves at this party but also they kind of kind of go past each person almost in in one side of the party and
00:31:42
as they do that you can see behind some people that appear to be sitting down you can see Kena Behind these people if
00:31:50
it's not Kena it's somebody that has the exact same hair do and exact same outfit
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on okay you're exactly right so then where near the end of this video is the thing that I think is a big
00:32:03
deal it shows I believe three girls in the restroom the door is open and they all appear to be looking in the mirror
00:32:13
and maybe fixing their hair or fixing their makeup uh there are other I'm guessing there might be drinks that are
00:32:19
being made at this countertop as well MH and the reason why I say that is that one of the girls when she's done doing
00:32:26
whatever she's doing it's hard to see her like I said there's multiple people in a small room and you're seeing it
00:32:32
from an angle but you can clearly see her leave the restroom with the drink and she says something to the fact of
00:32:40
this drink is for her or I'm going to give this drink to that girl now when the when the film when the video shuts
00:32:49
off she's seen walking in the direction of Kena um and that leads leads me to wonder the big question that we've had
00:33:00
from the get-go on this was she drugged did somebody feed her something that put
00:33:05
her in this state that messed her up this bad um and this is it's not 100% proof you know it's not an open and shut
00:33:15
case here but it seems very strange to me that I see this girl saying those exact words oh this this is for her this
00:33:23
drink is for her or I'm going to give this Drink To That Girl almost like she's telling her friends yeah don't
00:33:29
take this one yeah I doctored this one up this ain't for you guys this is for her and I'm walking in her Direction
00:33:34
it's a special drink there's not a lot of girls in that same direction that she's walking there are other girls it
00:33:42
could have been somebody else that she was talking about but there's not a lot of other girls in that direction that
00:33:47
she was walking well it's super fascinating cuz I mean clearly we I had to stop cuz I didn't see what you saw
00:33:55
originally and you can clearly see like it's almost like girls are scheming in the
00:34:00
bathroom uh and then you clearly hear her say when she walks out of the bathroom I'm going to give this to that
00:34:06
girl over there or something like that um but once she walks past it's like there wasn't enough time to hand her the
00:34:16
drink so she either set the drink down on like a table and was like hey there's your drink mm or it was for somebody
00:34:22
further in the room but uh but the video cuts off right about that time too well
00:34:29
yeah yeah yeah just just shortly after she just passed Kena I guess thing that I find most strange about this is in the
00:34:36
clips that we just watch these I don't know if they're Facebook live videos or SnapChat videos
00:34:42
whatever the thing that's Most Fascinating to me is every time that you see Kena mhm that I don't see a drink in
00:34:48
her hand right so that that is U how' she get so drunk so fast you're right right and if somebody didn't drug her I
00:34:59
believe she was I mean I mean I said it in the last episode so I can't hold it back I mean I think that's just extra
00:35:06
proof now these clips are very small they're minutes long and but you know you see her at the beginning of the
00:35:12
video no drink couple minutes go by you see her again no drink so somebody that you know somebody walking around like a
00:35:20
zombie you know doesn't get that way you know unless you got a drink in your hand
00:35:25
and that girl leaving the bathroom clearly says I'm going to give this drink to that girl over there clearly
00:35:31
says that and you cannot see what's going on at that on that countertop in the bathroom who knows who knows yeah
00:35:38
but yeah what did she give her that drink I don't know but what it is evidence of is that there are people
00:35:45
making drinks for other people yep and so the possibility of her getting a drink that had something in it like rofi
00:35:52
or whatever I think that was planned though and this is like I said said this is not just like a death investigation
00:35:59
this is this will be a murder investigation well we got a lot more to get to Captain because there's also a
00:36:04
video of Irene Roberts now remember I said she's the one that I believe was having her birthday party at the hotel
00:36:12
um and there's a video of her where she is this must be Facebook live um and she
00:36:19
is wearing a pair of uh reflective sunglasses and there's a lot of people speculating as to what they can see in
00:36:26
the reflection of her of her sunglasses um there are some people that hold on a second I just want to say
00:36:34
U to all the True Crime army people out there that have spent 6 hours sometimes eight hours watching a video like this
00:36:46
MH trying to see something in glasses I feel for you I told you I got lost for 3
00:36:54
days I went down into my base and then I emerg 75 hours later after watching all kinds of videos looking in
00:37:04
people's glasses looking in the reflections of mirrors and windows and listening to things with headphones on
00:37:10
and then with them off and then slowing them down and speeding them up trying to
00:37:13
figure out what I'm hearing yeah okay so what what's in these classes or what do
00:37:17
people think all right so there are a few there's actually a lot of things that people think and think that they're
00:37:23
hearing and seeing I'm going to only go through the things that um somewhat makes sense well that somewhat makes
00:37:30
sense and that this is in the same sense that I cannot disagree with these people
00:37:35
um I can't say 100% what I'm hearing or what the intentions of those words are but I can't disagree with the people
00:37:41
that have pointed these things out the first thing that that should be discussed is that at some
00:37:47
point it's believed that you can see Kena in the reflection of these glasses and that she appears to be passed out on
00:37:56
on the bed and this would be away from this Irene Roberts person mhm um I cannot say that that's not Kena there I
00:38:05
I I can't say 100% that it is the jeans is what I see in her reflection cuz she has like ripped jeans yes the jeans that
00:38:14
I see to me if I had to do a jean lineup uh I would pick those as as kena's jeans
00:38:21
mhm um so I cannot disagree with that there's another portion on there and this is somewhere between the 220 to 255
00:38:28
Mark into this video where the the girl sitting next to Irene she leans in and says something to the girl now a lot of
00:38:37
people believe that she is saying they're they're in there raping that girl yeah [ __ ] um which I can't tell
00:38:46
exactly what she's saying um Irene responds to this as I told you it's clear to me that Irene says I told you
00:38:53
but I cannot say 100% that that's that's what that girl says to her now again this is a lot of these things are going
00:39:01
to be answered with autopsy and a lot of things will be answered with a toxicology report as well MH and so I
00:39:07
mean there has been no reports that there was any sexual assault or anything so know know this sooner than later now
00:39:16
one thing I do want to point out that I spent a lot of time on and I want to save you all the time out there is that
00:39:23
if you start looking into this Irene Roberts is videotaping herself on a cell phone several times during this video
00:39:29
she picks up a cell phone and answers a call okay and you can hear her say we're
00:39:35
in room 926 telling somebody to park in the parking lot she answers this phone more
00:39:41
than once I've done some research and I've been able to figure out that the phone that she's talking on is actually
00:39:47
her phone the phone that she's recording this Facebook live video on is a girl named Monifa uh Monifa Shelton it's her
00:39:56
phone well her parents didn't like her too much to name her mo mo what's her name Monifa now after finding after
00:40:04
finding evidence and reports that that was the situation with the phones I believe this to be true because at some
00:40:10
point she does hand off the phone she's recording the video on to Monifa who then takes it into another room there is
00:40:18
one part on this on this video where people say that they can hear Kena saying help me okay um and
00:40:30
then people speculate that well they must be attacking her on this bed where you potentially see her passed out or
00:40:37
laying backwards on if those are in fact her jeans mhm um I I actually disagree with this I do hear something that
00:40:46
sounds somewhat like help me but there is music that's being turned on and turned off they're in the video they're
00:40:53
trying to listen to some kind of some kind of rap song and this song they're trying to play it through I believe
00:41:00
through YouTube and because you hear you hear Irene complain about the internet connection or about the phones are not
00:41:10
working right and I believe they're trying to play this through YouTube and it's cutting off because they're losing
00:41:15
the connection and you hear the vocals kind of go in and out the Music Stops they go in and out again I personally
00:41:22
what I think I'm hearing is not a girl saying help me I believe that I'm hearing some skewed version of those
00:41:29
lyrics uh because the like I said the music is turning on and then turning off my Pro again my problem with that theory
00:41:36
is one we'll know once we get the autopsy back but the problem with that theory is um Kena in the videos of her
00:41:44
walking around that hotel room this is somebody that is completely out of their mind and so if they drugged her and then
00:41:55
they raped her that for her to then have her outfit back on you know what I mean
00:42:04
and you know it because even though she's walking like she's in a whole on a whole another planet I mean her outfit's
00:42:14
still intact me her shoes are on they're tied so to you know the idea or the to sus suspect that they drugged her and
00:42:25
raped her and then redressed her or she was able to dress herself I don't even think she would be able to dress herself
00:42:32
mhm and then then they just push her out on the hallway and she goes wandering around well the the problem with that is
00:42:39
as far as these videos go and what we think we might be seeing or hearing in these videos the problem is um you know
00:42:48
I guess we're assuming that this video was taken before she's seen out wandering the Halls um she was missing
00:42:55
for for so many hours before her body was found um and I know that they they reported her missing at like 4: I'm just
00:43:03
calling into question what time are these videos from if that makes any sense at this point I've gotten in this
00:43:10
case I'm questioning everything Captain yeah well see and what we talked about earlier is kind of like the fight ORF
00:43:18
flight mentality and could you imagine let's say they that somebody did drug her and maybe she's laying on a bed cuz
00:43:28
she's not feeling so good and maybe maybe there is talk uh you know somebody says oh they're going to rape her or
00:43:36
something like that because that's what a lot of the speculation is is that they
00:43:40
invited her to this party and yeah she was friends with these people but it was at this point of the relationship where
00:43:46
it was like you know what we're not friends with her anymore and we're going to be you know we're going to take this
00:43:52
way too far and we're going to get her all drugged up and and they're going to rape her and this is going to be payback
00:44:00
for something you know what I'm saying well yeah yeah that's the that's what people
00:44:06
are speculating and so my thought is the the way she you know she is in another world
00:44:15
when she's walking through these halls and it's almost like she has some destination in her head and there's so
00:44:22
many times that she leans back so far that you can't believe that's why people think somebody's photoshopped out cuz
00:44:29
you can't even believe that she stayed standing but I think she was running from something and whatever she's
00:44:37
running from is probably what drugged her mhm or what she's trying to flee and and I don't think somebody's chasing her
00:44:44
I'm just saying that whatever happened in that room it got to a point where she's like I got to get out of here and
00:44:50
when she took off nobody was trying to chase her but all that is the cause of her death
00:44:56
and that's what's going to end up being a murder case well do you want to hear some information that has been on social
00:45:04
media and this is you know I I like when something like this happens I'm not a big social media person but I've seen
00:45:12
people in the past commit crimes they brag about it or they can't stay off of social media and we all know how rope
00:45:19
works if you give certain people enough rope they hang themselves and I I want to take some time here and present some
00:45:26
things that have been on social media regarding some bickering going back and forth from people that were at the hotel
00:45:33
that night and I'll go through the information I'm going to have to try to clean it up a little bit as I go through
00:45:39
it um there's one word in particular that I will just replace it with uh Fig Newton no I'll just replace it with
00:45:47
really nice guy okay um so this is the first post that we have um and this States this is from one of the young
00:45:56
girls that was at the party all we wanted to do was enjoy ourselves for Rene's birthday we did that but who
00:46:05
would have known our Smiles would have gone quickly changed into frowns Kena Martin you hearded us with this one we
00:46:13
all was just turning up together after you knew you was too lit you wanted to lay down and MFS made sure of that why
00:46:23
Nea I'm guessing she's referring to Nea there mhm why Nea couldn't just leave you instead of picking you up so that
00:46:31
y'all could leave you was in our eyesight till they took you out the room nobody knows WTF what happened outside
00:46:42
that room now in there's something that sounds like it's almost a response to that this this is from Monifa how do you
00:46:52
how do you respond to that well this is this is from Monifa I'll read it you can
00:46:56
take your draw your own conclusions here says when I saw Kena wasn't behind me we
00:47:02
got the look in everybody in that hotel room mhm was laughing didn't nobody bother to Get TF up and help us I look
00:47:13
for her to the top floor to the bottom I was knocking on mf's door rooms I look where the car was at and everything for
00:47:22
you all to sit on here and keep saying [ __ ] we know effed up we was drunk WTF you all staying saying it's our fault
00:47:34
like that [ __ ] is so effing lame man MH then you all want to switch the story around I'm waiting to talk to the police
00:47:43
if a MF knew some I would okay sorry I would have said some I told her mom who all was there you you the boys was and
00:47:56
everything mhm well I mean I don't like her name um but I think there's more important
00:48:04
things to talk about than her name here no but well my point is is I I made fun of her name I probably shouldn't have
00:48:11
because what she's actually saying is you know there sounds like there's some truth to that we have this drunk
00:48:18
individual and for some reason they left the room they leave the room and she turns back around and she's not with her
00:48:25
anymore mhm so and then she goes and looks for her and possibly is one of the people that ends up calling her parents
00:48:33
um or calling her mother and then what she is is doing and saying guess what you idiots uh yeah you guys were all
00:48:42
drunk but this girl went missing and nobody helped me out and nobody went looking for her right that's what she's
00:48:48
saying and then she's saying uh basically you guys are a bunch of idiots and I went looking and you just sat
00:48:54
there and did nothing and by the way I told all the cops about you so I mean that's what it sounds like she's saying
00:49:01
and if that if that is the true statement then I commend her because you know if your friend goes missing or even
00:49:07
acquaintance goes missing from a party be a freaking human and and try to find her well there's more captain and uh
00:49:15
there's these are all from I believe them to be from Monifa okay um and I'm remember I'm going to replace a certain
00:49:22
word with the really nice guy or really nice guys so we have me and Kena left out the room because them really nice
00:49:30
guys was acting weird ain't saying no names when we left they was following us so I told her to let's just go back in
00:49:38
the room because they not going to leave us alone by then we were on a different
00:49:44
floor she goes on to say we was already drunk bro we didn't know what was really
00:49:49
happening they already was feeling all up on Kena a lot before Irene even went live now what I think she's referring to
00:49:58
there is remember I said Irene Roberts did a live video um she's saying that before this point that these dudes were
00:50:07
already feeling up on Kena uh effing really nice guy in red was talking to his friend saying that he
00:50:16
bet $200 that he going to f Kena by the end of the night and by this time she was really drunk yes they kept giving
00:50:25
her drinks and S and I stood there on my behalf and watched her drunk okay so they were giving her drinks and [ __ ] is
00:50:35
what what they're saying yeah okay um well I didn't know if it was just s and then I'm then I'm wondering you know is
00:50:44
s a type of drug no no sorry I'm sorry I'm trying to read these and clean them up a little bit at the same time it's
00:50:49
all right you should have just had me read them cuz I I'll say it me and Kena split up outside of the hotel hotel room
00:50:56
yes we both left out she agreed to go to the third floor and I agreed to stay on
00:51:02
that floor but to be lowkey and I should have just went with her it seems like they need uh like auto correct on some
00:51:11
of this stuff well sometimes they're shortening the the words you know just to be faster typers uh and other times
00:51:17
just bad words um but there's there's a story that's forming here in this and I think it's it's starting to get easier
00:51:25
to follow along so this continues maybe maybe for listen listen it was a minute before I decided to go back to the room
00:51:35
and when I did the really nice guys wasn't there I was asking where they go and where is my best friend they said
00:51:44
they had left and said they was leaving but they was rushing and [ __ ] okay so possible suspects right mhm uh she goes
00:51:53
on to say we was drunk and on some play [ __ ] dog we should wait she was drunk and on some play [ __ ] dog we was drunk
00:52:02
and on some play [ __ ] dog okay so that that is some kind of drug reference I I'm guessing we shouldn't have actually
00:52:09
split up and went on different floors dog when I went down to the floor she wasn't there of course neither was the
00:52:17
guys they were nowhere in sight bro I started to panic bro OMG okay so she's panicking because she doesn't know where
00:52:24
these guys are or her friend well or both yeah yeah now there's I'm going to kind of sum up this next portion because
00:52:33
she takes a lot of words to please do explain to us that she says uh already put her phone and keys in my purse in
00:52:42
the room what she's saying is that that's remember they had kena's phone and keys she's saying that that took
00:52:50
place well before Kena got lit and remember I pointed out that she that she didn't bring a purse into the party with
00:52:57
her that we could see right I'm guessing that they went up to the party and she's
00:53:00
like can you hold my phone and my keys for me because we're going to be dancing and and drinking and hanging out with
00:53:06
all these with with everybody MH um this one's really interesting to say the least uh she says I feel effing stupid
00:53:16
bro I just want to kill myself bro because before we started drinking I told everyone that I dare one of us to
00:53:24
go in the free freezer and stay in there and put it on live before we leave that's how everybody knew where the
00:53:32
freezer was what well i' I'm trying to nail this down Captain but I I've not been able to do so to say 100% mhm but
00:53:42
one of the girls that was at the party worked at the hotel she had either was currently working at the hotel or had
00:53:48
previously worked at well like I said they probably knew the manager somehow I've seen reports that state that Irene
00:53:54
Robert worked at the hotel and I've seen reports that say Monifa Shelton worked at the hotel um from what I can gather
00:54:03
it's it's one or the other it's not both um but I'm I'm unable to nail down which
00:54:09
of the two girls was working at the hotel I don't think that matters too much well but the thing here is it might
00:54:17
mean some truth to what she's saying that that's why everybody knew where the freezer was at was that this this is
00:54:26
reported as a portion of the hotel that wasn't being used for any reason at all um it has actually been reported on
00:54:34
several occasions as a vacant a vacant part of the hotel um so yes I I somebody that worked there would obviously know
00:54:42
where this freezer was located right but she's saying that she dared somebody to
00:54:47
go into the freezer and do a Facebook live mhm I I don't get this either I mean you're at a party you don't need
00:54:56
to you want to broadcast that to everybody for what what's the point um I don't know but I don't know what what
00:55:03
the point is of a lot of these um these sessions of going back and forth where people are talking to each other and
00:55:10
accusing one another of different stuff what they knew who's to blame as far as who was at the party um and then putting
00:55:17
it on where a lot of people can see right and and again they're still not telling you everybody that's at the
00:55:24
party mhm you know there's still people that were at the party that they don't have names for and yeah that's which I
00:55:32
still find ridiculous so so the question here is so she she was daring people to
00:55:38
go and do a Facebook live in the freezer and that's how people knew where the freezer was MH did they like walk
00:55:47
past this and then she was like see in there I don't know all I can go off of is that short paragraph you know the
00:55:53
other thing too is this could just be complete BS you know and I'm just going to put out this
00:56:01
BS you know and I I think that's what it is I think a lot of these back and forth
00:56:09
social media comments are just BS and they're trying to in a clever way cover their asses MH well then here's another
00:56:17
separate interaction between two people and this is from somebody going by the name of shooter um and I believe one of
00:56:24
the men at the party that night McGavin was nicknamed shooter um and apparently this interaction is between him and
00:56:34
Irene Roberts and this has caused a lot of a lot of questions as well um and and
00:56:40
I'll kind of you read through this it's very short okay uh but shooter says what
00:56:45
what you go pop in for tonight you and your friends and Irene responds back going to this hotel I got for my
00:56:51
birthday let me and my partners slide through trying to make $200 she responds hell yeah he says your
00:57:01
friend diss me and I'm trying to get that she says okay don't make it obvious I need the 200 bucks or I need the 200
00:57:09
when you walk in he says okay same with y'all are it's gone be a sorry okay same
00:57:17
with y'all okay are are it's gone be a problem I'm rape her she responds I ain't been liking that [ __ ] for a long
00:57:27
time and I could use that 200 all right so what does all this crap mean well well we're still sifting through crap
00:57:35
here Captain we got more crap because there there's another there's another one this is from a person going by the
00:57:40
handle of young ryos I've never felt so dumb and so smart at the same time well he says young Ros says we didn't mean to
00:57:49
kill her she had a heart attack while we was raping her I'll let you all know why
00:57:55
we put her in the freezer later okay so what can we what can we draw from any of
00:58:00
this now yeah but there's there's not much evidence if any evidence that somebody
00:58:07
actually put her in the freezer mhm so that we know of that we know of right right because there is footage that
00:58:13
hasn't been released right um but again then why would the cops say that this is
00:58:20
a death investigation and not a murder investigation if they have video footage of people putting her into a freezer
00:58:27
well and I'm with you Captain I don't think that they have that I don't think that they have any obvious proof or
00:58:32
evidence that that happened I think that we have this weird convoluted situation
00:58:38
that got out of hand and somebody ended up dead but I believe there's a lot of people to blame for this I think that
00:58:45
there's a lot of people that know what happened know who was probably involved they've not come forward with those
00:58:52
stories they've told some of them on social media if those if those post and everything that I just read to you are
00:58:58
people being honest and telling portions of the story it it it slaps together a pretty quick and easy story for me to
00:59:06
figure out she went up to the room with with people that she thought were her friends she partied with these people
00:59:13
there were this group of guys there that was probably up to no good that were looking to get with a girl started
00:59:19
making trouble in the neighborhood probably get with her if if this one guy was targeting her as you know we have
00:59:26
some interaction between him and Irene at some point she gets drugged maybe somebody set her up one of those other
00:59:33
girls or one of the guys sets this up right but that text message to me sounds like a plan mhm you know that's what I'm
00:59:39
saying yeah yeah yeah they set this up and then when she's passing out when kena's passing out on the bed or trying
00:59:48
to go somewhere to black out so she can sleep this thing off and feel better in the morning mhm her friend Monifa
00:59:55
decides it's a good idea to get her up walk her around take her out of the hotel room and for some reason they're
01:00:03
out there with this group of guys one of them or several of them targeting Kena following them around and at some point
01:00:12
they decide to split up she leaves her friend or goes elsewhere maybe Kena goes elsewhere these guys they take off she's
01:00:21
told when she gets back to the room and doesn't see kenek she's told by her friends that these guys left well they
01:00:28
said they left okay well then I go back to where I think Kena is and she's not there and neither of these guys aren't
01:00:34
there either MH you know so I I think it pains yeah but but what the guy is saying at the end she has a heart attack
01:00:41
while we're raping her yeah and that's that's where the the toxicology report and the autopsy comes back into play
01:00:47
like you said the toxicology could very well be the Holy Grail to this case and I think and I hope here's what I hope I
01:00:54
hope that once they F when once they firm that up a little bit and and have a manner and a cause of death I hope they
01:01:03
don't release that to the public I hope that they keep that to themselves and I know this is a case where everybody's
01:01:09
screaming for more information and more things to be released to the public but I think the police need to keep that to
01:01:15
themselves because I tell you what I don't know how much of these text Facebook post and things like that are
01:01:22
true mhm I think there some truth in these and I think that somebody in that group has cooked their Goose man and I
01:01:30
think that once the police have a certain amount of evidence and a certain amount and they have reason to believe
01:01:36
that this was a uh homicide I think they can go to some PE some of these people and I think they
01:01:43
get some of them to talk yeah well and they might not even need them to talk they might have the information right on
01:01:49
social media and I think that like I said I think there's several people in this group that maybe they don't know
01:01:56
100% what happened but I think there's some people in this group that if you start piecing their stories together it
01:02:02
starts to fill out that timeline quite a bit and we can narrow this thing down a
01:02:06
bit now there's another insane R rumor that has sorry there's another kind of there's another rumor out there a big
01:02:15
rumor that is a whole another Rabbit Hole yes and this would be that this this murder let's go ahead and say
01:02:23
kena's situation was a murder um that her murder would be tied to a previous one and this took place in
01:02:32
2014 there's a man by the name of Joshua Martin he along with some other people killed a guy by the name of Corey
01:02:40
Williams how does this tie in well Joshua Martin the rumor is is kena's older brother okay that they're they're
01:02:49
related so basically her older brother killed somebody yes and then this would be a re venge killing yeah it was like a
01:02:55
fatal shooting some type of shootout possibly um but we have a person and I and I've been on the fence about this
01:03:03
for days because there there are two people that are named two guys that are named in social media with their first
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in last name as people that should be suspects and I don't know that I can say their names and and I and I hate to hold
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back from y'all but the thing is I I don't know that I can't confirm that these people were at the party now there
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are people in this Inner Circle that are saying these people were at the party well what is the tie in here other than
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just Josh Joshua being kena's older brother well the tie-in is that this person who's been named on the Internet
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is supposed to be monifah's boyfriend and somebody that has supposedly been seen in those videos of the party now I
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don't know this guy so I can't confirm that I saw him in those videos what I can say is if this person uh monifah's
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boyfriend and we'll give him the name th if he was at the party uh and if he is in fact monifah's boyfriend i' I've seen
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video of him and this is another one of these Facebook live deals where he appears to be bragging that he's no
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longer in Chicago on this Facebook live video and the rumor is that he had left shortly
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after Kena was disappeared or was discovered that he left Chicago shortly after that and they've not been able to
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locate him or contact him to speak with him about that night well it's pretty simple uh th right mhm
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so this report's going to come out both reports are going to come out they're going to start investigating this as a
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murder and that th is going to stand for the hunt and they'll start hunting this
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individual I'll tell you what Captain here's here's my deal right now I'm at a situation where I've seen kena's Mom
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talk I've I've watched her in interviews uh I do want to throw out there I know that there were protesters in front of
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the hotel she did something that I commend her for she told all the protesters this is to be a peaceful
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gathering this is to be a peaceful meeting um we're trying to make awareness here we're not trying to make
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a scene um so commend her for that I I want to be sad for her I want to be sad for her the problem is this is where I'm
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at right now I'm so angry about this thing I haven't got to the sad part yet I not for me and I see it on her face
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and I feel I feel for her but I am I am so angry that this happened to this girl
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in this hotel surrounded by people that were supposed to be her friends and I cannot get over the fact that I I
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believe I don't know what the truth is here Captain I know we presented a lot of different things but I believe as I
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said before and I'll say it again I think several people there that night have a good idea what happened and they
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are keeping their mouth shut or they're talking to the wrong people and we need to get this thing cleared up I'm so
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angry at these people I really am and and you're really angry at these very nice guys well no here's the problem
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this is what I'm very angry it's she went there going she there that night thinking she was surrounded by
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people that were her friends and i' I've seen several things go down that tell me
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I don't know if she had a friend in that entire group out a out of 30 people not
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if any of if any of them yeah and there wasn't a decent human being in that group well and the thing here out of 30
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people not one person could have been her friend that night when it counted when it counted so I here here's where
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try to comfort myself and where I try to feel good and feel better about this I think this thing's solvable I think it's
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very solvable I think once they clear up that toxicology like you said once they
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clear up this manner of death I think they're going to they have a small circle of people to work with I think if
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they can interview and locate everybody I think I think that we are going to see
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some justice and I think we're going to see it very soon [Music] all right Colonel do we have any
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recommended reading for this week we do this week we are recommending the crime of the century Richard Speck and the
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murders that shocked a nation by Dennis Brio and William J Martin this is about a famous very famous Chicago case in the
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hunt for a brutal Rampage killer back in ' 66 Richard spec stabbed strangled and
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killed eight nurses in one night in a violent sexual Rampage and a side note Captain I actually believe that this is
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a case and a story that Ted Bundy probably followed fantasized about committing uh anyway make sure that you
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