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foreign [Music] [Applause] welcome to True Crime garage wherever you are whatever you are doing thanks
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for listening I'm your host Nick and with me as always is a man that has pondered every question and he has all
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of the answers he is the very wise and very suave Captain I've been called Captain know it all before thank you
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thank you thank you it's good to be seen and it's good to see you thanks for listening thanks for telling a friend
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[Music] this is very special tonight we are drinking black as your soul red wine
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beautiful Virginia how did he know how did how did who know that my soul was black
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this is a Russian imperial style aged in red wine Zinfandel barrels it's almost too awesome to describe I liken this as
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the Trent resner of beers because it's complicated and very very good garage grade how about five out of five bottle
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listening to True Crime garage and drinking a recommended beer she's got the life next a big cheers to Bianca
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everybody next up in Parts Unknown we have Kim D we also have Michael Ann who says maybe we will one day learn the
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captain's true identity nope well here I'll tell you what my real name is well now that Cape makes a lot of sense
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also in Parts Unknown we have Brittany our man cat cereal Dan Jeff Shannon Rachel and Ryan and last but not least a
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happy birthday shout out this is from James to Nanny James's happy birthday Natty I love you now let's be clear that
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James loves you Natty I don't I don't know the first thing about it I feel like Delilah here
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Delilah we got a love connection coming from Parts Unknown to your parts Unknown
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[Laughter] sick sickos all right that's enough of the business grab the mailbag captain I
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want to sit down with everybody have a beer answer some questions have more than one beer on this show
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that's right so everybody gather around grab a chair and let's talk some true crime garage
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[Music] [Applause] [Music] all right well you asked for it so you're gonna get it we've had a lot of
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people asking for a q a session with the old captain and old Nikolai so here we are messed up I see everybody's
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everybody's kind of eased into their couches eased into their spots they got their drinks
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um reach out and grab that mail bag and let's let's hit him with letter number one here's a question we get all the
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time if you could pick one case that you could solve which case would that be wow I thought these would be softball
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questions that one that one's a tough one that's an intriguing question because I have some softball questions
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you know if you were to pick something like um like the Zodiac cases you know you
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you could justify your answer by saying well you would be able to solve a lot of
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murders all at once um but if we're just talking about one specific case one victim
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I would it would probably go back to me uh and I hate I hate to pick something that's already been on top of our list
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before but the West Memphis 3 case just haunts me and it's something that pops in my mind every 30 or 40 days and it's
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um I hate to sound selfish here but I almost need that to be solved and resolved for me personally
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um plus I mean you talk about horrible situation with three very young victims I should have stated that these
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questions are being asked it's it's live so it's not like we had a bunch of time
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to ponder these answers as well well and I kind of want to top off my answer there and give a little reasoning by why
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I chose that case well it sure showed you what you want it's um that's a case that they're not going
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to be actively investigating um and and therefore you know once that Alfred plea came into into the deal
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um as far as the state's concerned that case is off the books it's technically solved as far as the law goes they're
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not going to investigate that case so that's why I have to pick that one because a lot of these other cold cases
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are still being actively investigated yeah that'd definitely be on the top of my list and I think we talked about that
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case so much but there's all the you know the Brandon Lawson case Brian Shaffer case
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um that Adnan Syed case those cases constantly pop like we talked uh a couple episodes ago about the red light
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cases there's those cases that pop into my brain all the time JonBenet Ramsey that'd be a great one to to fully know
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the truth um so that yeah I know you said pick one I just picked five the next question regards people
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starting up uh their own podcast you know we get this question in many different forms so kind of a summation
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of of all of those is you know what advice would you give to someone that wants to start up their own podcast and
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be successful doing it well I think number one thing is find a subject that you can talk for hours and hours and
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hours and hours and hours and hours about and you don't really get tired of it something that really fascinates you
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I think that's the key I mean having a passion and normally if you're passionate about something people follow
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so I would say definitely do that first the second thing would be to have a hard
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you know toughen up your skin because there's a lot of haters out there there's people that they're not even
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going to listen to your show they're just going to find a way to hate on you also number three
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invest money into yourself so if you're going to start a podcast don't just pull
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out your iPhone and record on your iPhone go on and we get technical questions all the time what kind of
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equipment you use the best thing you can do is go to like amazon.com and search for a recording package
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something that comes with a condenser mic something that comes with a program you know pre-salness is a is a good
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company they got good preamps get a good mic get a good program dive into how to
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record it so you can have at least decent quality for people to listen to your nasally drone yeah and regarding
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the the hate mail and that's very that's very good thing that you keyed in on there uh thick skin because you will for
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every 10 people that like what you're doing that won't email you that won't hit you up with a tweet you'll get one
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person that will send you some hate mail yeah you only hear from the haters which
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is really discouraging uh and it was for us in the beginning but you just have to
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you kind of have to put your blinders on and keep doing what you like my recommendation too was would be to make
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sure that you have somebody on your team that is very much like the captain somebody that's incredibly in
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intelligent somebody that knows what he's doing he's a social media ninja and he's a hell of a producer so in in
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recording engineer yeah I mean I get a lot of hate mail saying you need to get off the show I produced the show so no
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I'd be talking into tin can if it was he'd be talking to iPhone or the or the wall all right so that's kind of advice
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and if if you if anybody has any technical questions they would like to ask me you can do so on social media and
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all that stuff I'm happy to help or point you in the right direction okay uh Sam asked what do you have against cows
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oh well that's a long list um I wonder if Sam is is Sam being funny or is this because we did a cow tipping
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uh post where because we were drinking the Spotted Cow beer um I wonder if he if he is referencing
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that but I personally love cows uh I would eat a T-bone steak right now well that's nice yeah okay speaking of eating
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would you rather have dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer or to have a child with Casey Anthony
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well that's not a fair question at all who is that from because that person's not Maddie you are an unfair person
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um here's the problem with that question Maddie a child is a lifelong responsibility I you'd have to be locked
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into Casey Anthony for the rest of your life uh dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer would
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certainly be easier hopefully he's not doing the cooking right Captain right um but if let's say I had to choose between
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dinner and with Jeffrey and dinner with Casey I would still go at dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer they're both despicable
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people of my my humble opinion well yeah and I and but at the end of the day the
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the meal is going to smell way better than that troll all right let's get to another question
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let's see uh did you guys ever do a radio show like on a tape recorder when you're little kids and do you still got
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them that comes from Edith that's a that's a great question Edith um yeah we actually we as strange as it
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sounds we actually are guilty of doing that in elementary school we were must have been very little
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um and we did it with a with a friend of ours um and I think what if I remember correctly we had basically had a tape
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recorder our three idiot voices and in a little acoustic guitar that was electric
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guitar was it electric guitar we were fancy but we didn't plug it into anything oh okay and our show was called
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butt radio yeah so it was very um very seven-year-old humor I think yeah and well and a lot of what we did too
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was we would like talk about the priests you know like the stuff in between a song and then we'd actually record a
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song yeah play a little Def Leopard yeah play a little yeah or Duran Duran um but yeah that's what we did in in
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elementary school that turned into uh my best friend growing up um cp1 um we did a thing called uh our first TV
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show was called the Willies which I was not a part of you were not a part of you
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and your friend cp1 right and then we turned it into the pubert and Toad show so my first nickname of any show was was
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towed and we had weird outfits we wore and the Willies was really like kid humor and very like we had to keep it
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clean because the only people that were watching it or his poor parents you know
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it's it's like they would have to come home and we'd be like here's the tape you gotta watch this tape and then I had
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to sit through the 30 minute tape we made and then uh the pubert and Toad show we actually
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um would tape record all these and then one would have these parties in high school would show everybody the tapes I
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was hoping to learn something today and what I just learned is that in the captain's 25-year radio career he has
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never used his real name well I started off in TV yeah pubert were you pubert or
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all right another one that we get asked often is by covering True Crime every week does it affect your views on the
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justice system um I I actually don't think that it that it has affected my thoughts on the
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overall My overall opinion of the justice system it certainly has given me quite a bit more insight into that but
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my my opinion really hasn't changed um I think for the most part we do a pretty good job it's it's a tough thing
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because it's never something that you're going to bat 1000 at um but I I think where we do fail
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um is that it seems to me like people um that people that don't have a lot of money or people that might be
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discriminated against uh they I don't feel and never have felt that they get a fair swing at the plate well I think
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your analogy is right I mean when you think about base but in baseball if you get 30 percent if
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you hit 30 you're an All-Star you're an All-Star and that's kind of where our justice system is we're not even batting
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30 I think it's fairly very very unfair and uh of people of color very unfair of
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people without money it's I think the more we dive into it and the more cases we cover the more flaws I see in the
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system and how many cases um should have been solved and that haven't been and really like with
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anything though Captain it all comes down to good people you know and if you have any situation regardless of you're
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talking about education or criminal justice or anything like that if you if you have some bad people it it's that
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specific area of the system is going to be bad um so we all just need to be we need to
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be good and we need to get better at what we do another question we get all the time uh now this one is phrased
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differently will you ever tour and if so please come to the UK uh tour I understand that like the murderinos
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um my favorite murder girls uh they ladies I should say um great show if you haven't checked
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that out I know they do a tour uh I don't know if we ever will we like the garage well well the other thing too
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is we do two shows a week um you know a lot you know a lot of people enjoy the two shows some people
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want just one show again bite by opening it up to multiple episodes you're actually able to spend time on the
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details or on your thought processes and the people that say well I don't need your opinion well I don't need your
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opinion either um to me me and Nick go back and forth on this I I love the facts of the cases
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but at the same time uh you know I think it's important for us to give our viewpoints on things that's what we
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bring to the genre that's what we bring to True Crime as our background our opinions that's what we can bring
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everybody has their own story their own thoughts and uh we should be willing to share those but as far as a tour goes
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uh I I don't know I think there's not enough time you're exactly right the problem with our schedule is because of
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doing two shows a week it's very cumbersome and we've actually doubled the workload on our end as well so
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um we would love to do a tour we'd love to meet everybody um right now it's it it doesn't work in
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the schedule the other question we get a lot is how long do we spend on an episode to record an episode
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you know we normally start um the average episode is probably about six hours to record now what we do
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differently than a lot of other shows like talking to uh Generation Y and uh stored in scale and and every
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show does their thing differently we actually now for this show we're actually just doing it live and I'll go
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back and edit but normally we edit live meaning we say a couple lines then we might edit then we say more lines and go
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back and edit so we kind of edit on the fly but the whole process once you put in the intro once you do
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um the beer fun and the ads and edit the whole show you're looking at about a six
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hour to eight hour process per episode and that's just the recording of that one episode that has nothing to do with
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uh research or putting together notes or or composing the music any you know we we of course have to do that before we
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get together in the garage and sit down to record yeah and the cases are very I mean because you know there's there's
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days that you can spend 12 hours just doing research so it's very very cumbersome and I think
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then on top of that you should try to balance your life because we're dealing with such heavy topics and
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you need that time on the weekend to just be yourself and not be the captain or not be Nick from True Crime garage
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and not dive into these heavy topics so to then you know to go okay well it's Friday I gotta pack my bags and go to
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Austin Texas or something it's kind of hard to do we won't actually answer this one but uh what got you into True Crime
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we there's another q a show on the website if you want to check that out that kind of has a lot of broad answers
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that was in the first season one like episode 15 or something like that we have we give a that was a question I
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think maybe our first question of that episode and the history of True Crime in your opinion who's the biggest douche
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canoe uh that would vary depending on which day you ask me because you know so many
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so many of these animals are douche canoes uh amongst others well they words we they also want us to stop saying
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animals because you know there are a bunch of lovely animals oh yeah yeah I'm sorry I mean that in a bad way I guess
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but um uh so just off the top of my head if I had to pick one right now click boom I'd
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say Peewee Gaskins um and for reasons that I won't get into but we we have been asked several times
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to cover his case he he was a serial killer um tiny little guy um but he did some things that I won't
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mention here um and actually because of because I despise him so much um and I've even responded this way to a
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few people that have asked us to cover Peewee Gaskins I will not waste my breath discussing
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uh Pee Wee Gaskins anymore okay I was going to say he just he just wasted a lot of breath right there nope
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uh mine would just be anybody that any crimes against children I mean I think he heard my disdain for Casey Anthony
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but you know that's just one individual there's a bunch of them out there that did
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um just as bad if not worse and so yeah all those would be in the category for me I look I understand people want a one
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person answer I can't do it what's your favorite beer uh today it's black is your soul
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um uh usually it's the beer that's in front of me but um you know I I actually uh I had some beer
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email the other day and one of them had one of the gentlemen had commented saying you know um
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uh you know captain could you get Nick to drink some real beer you know not not these uh you know flavor wild beers or
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anything like that I like variety um I'm willing to try every beer out there um uh I guess if this guy meant real
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beer like regular American Ale American lager um I I don't I like to sit down on a hot
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day and pull a can from a cooler there's something magical that happens inside that cooler when you ice down some beers
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all day long and I don't care if it's a Budweiser a bush beer a Miller Lite Miller High Life
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yeah I like I like everything I like all the beers um PBR love a good PBO my my favorite beer is Guinness I
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normally drink a lot of Guinness if you would have asked him a year ago he would
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have said red stripe yeah I drink red stripe for a really long time um uh dortmunder gold would be my if I
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wanted a somewhat fancy not too fancy beer that probably would be my favorite one which case
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immediately turned you off and why you want me to answer this one yeah go ahead I have to thank for that I will just
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start with and I don't I don't want to get hate mail um two cases particularly and one is
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well I'll start with Adnan syed's case I'm super fascinated by that case I've dove into that case more than most of
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the cases that we've covered on the show we've tried to find multiple ways to cover it the last which I thought was a
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clever way was that we wanted to go through a point system here's the major points of the
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case you know that either way in favor of Adnan or way against him the problem with covering a case like
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this and the other case would be the Stephen Avery case the making of a Murder the problem with those two cases are how
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close people are and when you have a case like that that you get invested in to so much
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no matter what I say or what I believe will change somebody else's Viewpoint of what they believe so all it does is to
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create this room for animosity in those two cases immediately turn me off as far
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as wanting to cover those and we we get talked about it all I um addon's case has not been brought up so much I think
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in the beginning it was a little bit but uh the Steven Avery case has constant constantly been brought up to cover that
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case cover that case probably won't cover that I uh I'm gonna kind of follow you there a little bit uh the Steven
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Avery case is a big turn off for me as far as discussing it um I did watch the show I thought the
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show was highly entertaining um I also read a book about the case well before the documentary came out and
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I can't think of the name of that book but if anybody can find that you probably find it if you just Google
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Stephen Avery I highly recommend that book um that one turns me off because I okay
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so I go to this beer club I'm in a beer Club bunch of guys get together you know
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every so often and drink beers well you know me being the True Crime dork out of
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the out of the batch when that show was going on everybody wanted to talk to me at Beer Club about Steven Avery and and
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get my opinion on what was going on the problem was I didn't share the same opinion uh regarding the outcome or or
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who is guilty or not guilty uh as they did and it always turned in it we go to Beer Club for fun and it would turn into
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some kind of debate so I think that atmosphere is what turned me off from uh that that particular case another one
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that I'll kind of lump a whole bunch of them together and I do like this show you know like the the evening time uh
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major Network True Crime shows and I know they cover more than that but like Dateline 2020 48 Hours things like that
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uh those are good shows the problem for me is 50 of the time it's like the same case in a different location with
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different names it's always the cheating husband killed the wife and you know it's just spending an hour putting
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together information to convince you of that or to show why he is guilty it's um
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it's just not it's just not um those are all horrible events but it doesn't intrigue me enough to want to sit there
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and and watch that same crime play out over and over again are you gonna try to solve a crime
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we have um uh you know we've we've given we've supplied some tips uh We've we haven't
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solved any questions we have not solved any crime sorry I should be clear about that uh but what I what I mean is we we
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have tried to help or assist um by providing information that we've stumbled upon or information that's been
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provided to us we've tried to allocate that to the right and appropriate people in departments
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um and let them run with it they're the investigators they're involved in in the
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real action um so we'll continue to do that all right are the host of True Crime gay
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Ridge 420 friendly well I was born on 420 so am I 420 friendly ah do whatever you want to do it's not
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not up to for me to tell you do I partake in it no that's just me I'm going to Jamaica in August and I
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certainly will be uh very friendly during that entire trip all right have we considered doing a video podcast no
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I'm not interested in that personally I have a face for audio nice audio face no I I look I understand
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that some people are going that way with different shows I know Joe Rogan does his show but they also post a live feed
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we're not a full conversation show I mean we do have conversation but a lot of the times you know we're putting out
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facts and that has to be done and an appropriate in an appropriate way for you know the victims for everybody
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involved and for the listener to to understand what actually happened so it's it would be pretty difficult to do
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I mean we could do a q a show like this live right but again that's uh you know we're already working as much as we can
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on this show so to add one more element it's kind of like the Vlogs people said one of these Vlogs going to come out
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it's just I run out of time and so you you have to pick your battles do I reply to everybody on social media or do I
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make the show better for the week do I do a vlog this week or do I get what I need to get done for the show
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this week well and unfortunately I don't know that our format or the way we do things would would translate
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to a video type podcast would you ever want to do a one unsolved case uh kind of like uh up in vanished which is a
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great show I know they had a new episode come out today I think that everybody's
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really excited about so what we want to focus on one case and spend months and months on possibly
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we've we've been kicking the tires on that idea for quite some time um we have a handful of cases in mind uh
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for that so we've certainly considered doing some type of series but we also want to stay true to what we're
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currently doing uh and and hoping to give a new case you know every week or a new case every two weeks well yeah and
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we're actually in talks right now with a producer to start working on a audio documentary kind of like s-town ours
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would be solely True Crime though all right fascinating stuff with Nick and the captain holding on to my holding on
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to my seats holding on to my seat parts my seat parts of unknown we'll get back to this right after a quick beer break
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[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] all right we're back cheers all right a
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question we get all the time is research do we just randomly Google search information or is there certain places
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that you start your research process it's actually different for every case and I hate hate to give an answer like
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that it it varies depending on what is out there you know if I can if we're discussing a subject you know an author
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that I like has written a book about um I might I might read that book um or but yeah some Google searches are
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involved um once in a while I'll get on web salutes I don't get on there every week regarding our cases but sometimes
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I'll get on there because a lot of the web sleuth Community they have just a message board where you can just kind of
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throw out your theory or question this or that about any particular case so I like to it's not so much to find out
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what people think are interesting on cases but it's it's more like finding out what's wrong with the case what's
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missing from the investigation you know a lot of times you really only need one or two pieces to put the whole puzzle
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together and sometimes you need somebody else's uh input to to locate that piece
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or two another question that's been asked a bunch is what case got us into True Crime that's pretty much again on
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the website it's free and it's in the store page but it's technically free there's another q a show that I think we
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did on season one but what case got us you know you into true crime or me into True Crime my first major one was
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um West Memphis Three and then it a recent case that really got me kind of hooked back into the subject would be um
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Mar Murray yeah I I don't remember if I went into depth with this in in the Q a that we did back in season one oh by the
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way anybody that wants old episodes that are not available on iTunes the first two seasons are available for purchase
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on iTunes or on our website store Page and as the captain just said there's a couple of free ones on there as well we
00:31:30
still to this day get asked several times a week how do I locate your first 40 episodes or 39 episodes whatever it
00:31:37
is that's where you find them um for me when I was young I got two books and one
00:31:42
was called the greatest Unsolved Mysteries and the other one was called um something about solved Mysteries or
00:31:49
those names are not right but that's what I remember this was from when I was like 11 or 12. and the first one that I
00:31:56
read that was solved was about the Chowchilla kidnappings and that's an interesting case where I believe it was
00:32:04
three guys they hijacked a school bus and they took all of the school children on that that bus and held them for
00:32:11
ransom and it's a solved case and fortunately nobody was nobody but he was harmed I think a lot of people have a
00:32:18
lot of PTSD still to this day for regarding that and then the first unsolved case that I remember reading in
00:32:25
the unsolved book was the Lizzie Borden case back from the late 1800s she went on trial for uh killing her father and
00:32:35
her stepmother with an ax this was in Fall River Massachusetts I believe and she was acquitted of of that at trial
00:32:44
and to this day there's many many people that still believe that she's guilty there's that old that old rhyme that
00:32:51
goes Lizzy Borden Took an Ax and gave her mother 40 whacks and when she had seen what she had done she gave her
00:32:57
father 41. um so that's cute those were the first two um solved case and unsolved case that I
00:33:05
remember reading about uh can you guys talk about the moment where one of you said let's do a podcast and the other's
00:33:12
reaction I think we talked about this before but it's kind of funny we're both both laid off
00:33:17
we were laid off at the time when we when we started this podcast and we had actually talked uh about starting up a
00:33:26
podcast uh jokingly over the phone several times um and I think once we were both laid off we had time to to
00:33:34
take on a project uh I'm not gonna lie to you I don't think we were super serious about it in
00:33:39
the beginning um it wasn't until we actually sat down and started recording we didn't know
00:33:44
what we were doing um but we we were having fun doing it and then people started listening yeah but it
00:33:52
kind of went like this um okay yeah let's do a podcast what you want to talk about
00:33:57
uh I'm thinking True Crime and I think we should I still remember uh this is Nick saying this by the way
00:34:05
he said I think we should do a true crime podcast and I think we should uh uh to a beer of the week
00:34:13
these all sounded like bad ideas to him back then it still sound like bad ideas no but it was kind of like I was like
00:34:21
well I guess when we when if you would break down our conversations that we would have what seventy percent would be
00:34:31
true crime or conspiracy so yeah it just kind of I mean we don't normally talk about uh life goals and and stuff like
00:34:42
that so we'd always kind of gravitate towards West Memphis Three or JFK we'd always
00:34:49
end up talking about that stuff after a drink or two and just seemed right yeah or music we talked about music a lot
00:34:55
that would probably be the other subject uh we'd like to do this game where we get drunk where we say like uh you know
00:35:02
like Best Love Song That's not about a girl you know or best uh rock song not about rocking best rock song about
00:35:15
rocking which is obviously Those About to Rock We Salute You all right do we ever disagree on cases to cover and not
00:35:24
end up covering that case we might have different answers for this question my answer would be no
00:35:31
um we definitely disagree on what cases to cover from time to time but I think we respect each other enough that uh if
00:35:38
one of us feels the thing is when we cover these cases it's very important that that one or both of us be
00:35:44
passionate about about the case because it will show in our research and show in
00:35:48
our presentation of the case so my answer is that yes we disagree on them but I believe we respect each other
00:35:57
enough that it it just means that we won't be covering it that week it goes on a list and we will get to you know
00:36:04
the captain's case or my case eventually right the majority of the time I think we're we both get excited about the same
00:36:11
case you know because we'll kind of we'll come up with nine or ten and kind of talk briefly about each one and we
00:36:16
can tell right away which ones that that we're both into what is one case you'll
00:36:20
never cover and why hmm well so I should probably give a different answer than Peewee Gaskins since I
00:36:28
and I just said that I'll just go ahead with my answer thinking that I I'm assuming that we'll never cover Adnan
00:36:36
syed's case so um one that we've gone back and forth about throughout this entire process
00:36:45
is uh JonBenet Ramsey we've had many discussions about we should cover it or we shouldn't cover it we're still kind
00:36:53
of I'll speak for the both of us we're still kind of on the fence of whether to do it or not something the problem is
00:37:00
some of these cases have been covered so many times and if you look hard enough some of them have been covered very well
00:37:06
when we cover a case we generally want to try to add something to the conversation bring something into the
00:37:13
fold you know and if we don't think that we can do that we we're not likely to cover the case that doesn't mean we will
00:37:21
never cover Jean Benet it's just one that pops to the top of my mind because the captain and I've had this discussion
00:37:27
many times is there any plans for Nick and Captain bobbleheads or beer koozies uh no plans for bobble heads and
00:37:35
definitely plans for the beer koozies the problem with merchandise is again you know I know you know there's a lot
00:37:42
of other shows that have you know different merchandise ice and stuff like that this is a two-person operation and
00:37:49
that's pretty much it we run our own website we record all the shows we upload them ourselves if you bought a
00:37:57
t-shirt one of us put that t-shirt in that bag so again it's one of those things where it just comes down to time
00:38:04
and when we can find more time we we put out that stuff and with the t-shirts too
00:38:09
you know we even we even go as far to be included on the process of Designing what goes on the shirt what type of
00:38:16
shirt it goes on the color involved all of that stuff we try to keep our our hands on everything that is true crime
00:38:22
garage another question we get often is the is our logo the garage like are we sitting in that garage right that's a
00:38:32
question we get often that's a pretty beat up garage uh in that picture um it would not be comfortable to sit in
00:38:40
that garage and record for six hours well the first garage we uh set in in the summer it was just I mean it was
00:38:48
awful the first garage that we were in for I think the first eight episodes or so it was just to the point where the
00:38:56
amount of sweat coming off of us and you know we might record for 20 minutes and
00:39:01
then we'd have to open up the garage door and take another 20 minute break because we're just sweating it was it's
00:39:07
pretty gross yeah we if you listen to the first six seven eight episodes we were actually in a detached garage a
00:39:16
very large one uh we recorded all those episodes in the summertime so it would get very hot and on top of that you
00:39:23
would hear we would have to stop frequently because you would hear dogs barking outside or somebody honking
00:39:29
their horn um so so yes we are not in the garage that you see on the picture there
00:39:36
alrighty another question we get a bunch is by diving into True Crime cases every
00:39:42
week and so often has it affected you mentally like with uh in the sense of do you find
00:39:49
it depresses you or or what you think of people in general okay so before we started doing the the podcast
00:39:57
I believe that I I have a gut reaction and gut feeling to most of the people that I meet
00:40:07
um I don't think I don't think everybody's shady I think most people are good people
00:40:12
um I do believe that we encounter a certain number of bad people almost on a daily basis one thing that I've done in
00:40:19
my own personal life throughout the my entire lifetime is if somebody gives me a bad feeling if for whatever reason
00:40:26
even if I can't put my finger on it it maybe they've done nothing at all but if I get a bad feeling about somebody I
00:40:32
won't go anywhere with them I won't be around them I will try not to speak to them so I've always done that now the
00:40:39
thing that has affected me regarding having the show and doing the podcast is and this is is pretty depressing because
00:40:47
I do believe we generally live in a good world but now I feel like I get very weary when I see a a child
00:40:56
walking alone somewhere yeah I almost feel an in stranger abductions we've pointed this out before are actually a
00:41:03
very rare thing that happens um usually a child is abducted by somebody they know and those are still
00:41:10
rare occurrences as well but I I don't know why it didn't happen right away when we started this podcast but at some
00:41:17
point like now that it's summertime it's beautiful out today I will probably see
00:41:21
a child walking alone somewhere today and it will it will bother me or it will cause me to look around and take take
00:41:29
observation of the surroundings um so yes that's I know that's a strange thing to say but that that's one way
00:41:35
that it has affected me yeah I kind of have to put a time limit on things it's like when we did the ad for uh mommy
00:41:42
dead and dearest or at the HBO documentary I have to look at my work schedule and
00:41:51
and and think to myself how much have I actually dove into True Crime this week and if it's too much sometimes I have to
00:41:59
put a documentary that I maybe really want to see on hold just because I think the constant of it can get a little dark
00:42:07
the other weird thing on your level is when you said uh well when I see a child a weird thing that happens with me is
00:42:15
you know you know me I'll meet a mom of course everybody's gonna laugh about this you know my friend will be a mother
00:42:24
right and uh it's like the kid comes up and go hey how old's your kid six and I immediately will think JonBenet Ramsey
00:42:33
or Walsh Adam Walsh and then somebody will go oh my other kids eight and I immediately think Stevie branch and the
00:42:42
and that's odd or uh you know we're going to go get Kentucky Fried Chicken I immediately think uh John Wayne Gacy so
00:42:53
uh which before I used to think about Jaco Pastorius because he would put a little chicken bone in his pocket and he
00:42:59
would rub his hands with the chicken bone before he played bass so that's definitely a change and that's
00:43:05
definitely you know again sometimes you have to keep those the thoughts to yourself you
00:43:11
can't just blurt those out um the thing that gets me sometimes is I ride my bike often
00:43:18
and uh I was riding by the school and uh behind the school is kind of a wooded area
00:43:28
and I will see things like I was writing one day and these three boys on bicycles were riding back
00:43:36
into the woods and probably about eight years old and stuff like that there's this part of me that goes do I
00:43:43
go back into the woods and make sure nothing happens to them right but you know you can't control every situation
00:43:49
so there there is there are there are things that can get you down about it but you know if it wasn't for you know a
00:43:58
lot of people ask what podcast do we listen to I respect and love pretty much every True Crime podcast I've listened
00:44:05
to I tend to not listen to them often so like when Mike from sword and scale said
00:44:10
hey uh you guys seem like cool guys and you want to do this little bit with us he's like never listen to your show not
00:44:18
because he doesn't want to it's just you don't have a lot of time because you're
00:44:22
producing a show and then on top of that do you want to know what everybody else
00:44:25
in the True Crime world is doing that's awesome that's funny that you said sword
00:44:29
and scale though because we got an email the other day from a listener that said
00:44:33
hey I got a case that's hi Captain I got a case that's perfect for your show sword and scale so I'll get somebody got
00:44:40
that wrong completely my show it's Mike's show but um it's good for me to have podcasts that aren't of the True
00:44:48
Crime genre to kind of you know I shows like Chris Delia show congratulations that
00:44:54
show cracks me up I really like Joe Rogan's show because it can be funny but it can also get into some deep stuff and
00:45:01
then every week I listen to um uh This American Life because I have a producer friend that listens to it and
00:45:09
we kind of just always kind of talk about the episode what was the hardest case to cover emotionally for me it was
00:45:17
the tika Lewis case um there's been a few of these that have really got to me um I don't know if if you know the
00:45:25
captain knows this but I don't I don't know if anybody else could tell this but when we covered Casey Anthony and I was
00:45:31
reading George Anthony's suicide note I we I had to tell the captain to stop a couple times because it was at some
00:45:37
point when you're reading that his words became my words almost and it and like it started affecting me pretty badly
00:45:45
um but I would say probably the team he was crying in the garage uh I would probably say the tika Lewis case uh that
00:45:52
was the small girl that went missing and um I don't have her information right in
00:45:57
front of me but I believe it was Washington State uh she was believed to be have been abducted from a bowling
00:46:02
alley now the poor little girl was probably probably only about three years old so maybe the youngest one of the
00:46:10
youngest victims we've discussed at length on the show doing the research for that case was very tough for me very
00:46:18
depressing very emotional week that week so the tico Lewis case if I had to pick
00:46:24
just one it was so weird too when you're crying in the garage not to make a joke
00:46:28
about it but because it wasn't that funny at all because I was I was very just focused on coming in you know you
00:46:36
know Nick is leading the conversation that's obviously no surprise here so I have to be on my toes and know when to
00:46:44
interrupt when to interject I try not to interrupt as much I've been listening to
00:46:48
the comments but I'm recording the whole thing and so I gotta you know I'm I was so
00:46:55
focused that emotionally I wasn't in that same realm and I I obviously didn't have to read the words but it was just
00:47:02
like very awkward thing where you got somebody you know crying and you're going wait okay okay just uh it wasn't
00:47:09
like us it wasn't like a a big time cry no it was like choke it wasn't like waterfall with snot Bubbles and all that
00:47:17
it was it was it was a big strong man choking up yeah what was what's that lady the lady that does the snot bubbles
00:47:24
so well oh she was in doubt and she was in that movie with uh fences yeah uh I can't think of her name but she man she
00:47:32
snot bubbles every crying scene that she does I've been standing here right with
00:47:36
you I've been standing right that's what I started doing I tell you what that is
00:47:40
some damn good acting if you can snot bubble on cue oh she's amazing exactly how big is the captain's jib okay well
00:47:48
let's what does that even mean I don't even know I'm six three and my shoes are size 14. if that gives you I'm just a
00:47:56
big Burly dude okay jib what does jib mean it's it's actually an old sailor's term which is funny because it's
00:48:03
we didn't plan it that way it's just there's a bunch of old sayings that I say um you know I like your jib you know uh
00:48:12
you know that get you know I like the cut of his jib all it means for the people that don't know what it means the
00:48:18
people that don't want to spend any I love people that you know write in what does uh jib mean it's like can't you
00:48:25
just Google it well you gotta write to me just Google it basically it means we like your character we'd like if we say
00:48:34
we like the color your jib we like your character we like What You're Made Of and that's all it is how big is my jib
00:48:41
that's for your imagination how do you guys feel basically living in the serial killer capital of the country Ohio
00:48:49
well o h i o ah I feel great living in Ohio I disagree with that statement I disagree with that statement and and I
00:49:00
don't know numbers I don't have you know a list of serial killers by state in front of me I do know that Ohio has its
00:49:07
and has had its good share of them unfortunately um I would argue that California and
00:49:15
maybe um uh California certainly has had a ton of them I would argue that they've had
00:49:20
the most uh New York has had a bunch the other thing too Washington State's a weird one because they've had a lot of
00:49:27
famous serial killers so we tend to one thing that's crazy for for people that aren't into True Crime that much they
00:49:35
think that serial killers are a very rare thing that there's only like one at every 10 years in the United States no
00:49:42
there's a whole batch of them that nobody's ever heard of um so that's a hard thing to say how do
00:49:47
we feel about living in the he he or she said the serial killer capital of the world yeah I love Ohio John so I love uh
00:49:56
Columbus I've I've grown up with this city um well he hasn't grown up much but yeah
00:50:01
and the city has grown up with me I feel that it's the right size of City for me
00:50:06
um it's also a very understanding and intelligent Community as well so I love living in Columbus I will always live
00:50:12
here or near here I love Ohio and I AI again California lots of serial killers all right so there John Steve wants to
00:50:23
know what is the captain the captain of the garage duh um your mom actually uh he he
00:50:31
technically holds no rank outside of these four walls um so I actually get annoyed by people
00:50:38
that I'm friends with that call me the captain he he is annoying I have a real name the captain of himself it's gern
00:50:46
that's my real name gern Blanchard gern the third okay uh would we ever consider doing
00:50:53
live episodes in front of an audience sure I'm not doing anything this evening uh no uh I will be at Jimmy's Chicken
00:51:01
Shack um participating in the hot body contest and afterwards it will follow with a uh
00:51:07
a live True Crime garage show yeah it doesn't work out enough for a hot body contest but it's not a tough contest
00:51:14
it's not a tough man contest uh would we do a live show we've we like we talked about touring would we do a tour
00:51:20
probably not we would like to do some meetups uh and probably if we did the Meetup what's the point of meeting up
00:51:27
with us I think one to shake hands and say hi and meet everybody and tell tell you thank you so much for for affecting
00:51:33
our lives uh the way you have uh I think if we did that we'd also just kind of do
00:51:38
a live q a just for fun would we record that maybe through video or something and then you know possibly possibly toss
00:51:47
it up on YouTube or something that's something I think we should do you know and we've talked about it quite a bit I
00:51:52
think we should do something like that we do like a beer tasting mixed with a q a and maybe a short you know version of
00:51:59
a of a regular episode okay so as the show has been getting bigger how has that affected you really not at all um
00:52:08
other than I have to well it hasn't really affected me in any way that that's outstanding other than you know
00:52:14
now where I wasn't really known as a true crime guy I was kind of a closeted True Crime dork amongst amongst some of
00:52:24
my friends there were some people that I would openly speak about this uh you know the reading and TV watching that I
00:52:31
do um but now the majority of my family you know all of my family is aware as well
00:52:37
and so other than people asking me questions uh regarding True Crime uh you know constantly uh it's not truly
00:52:46
affected me in any way at all how about you cap I'm just a lot busier you know with this
00:52:52
with the show doing the social media and uh I was a lot more private you know I got a question the other day somebody
00:53:00
asked me why do you uh have your Instagram as private if you accept everybody but there are some people in
00:53:07
my past that I just don't really care for them to see what what's going on with me so uh a lot of these stuff is
00:53:14
personal and it's very odd uh I mean I've played in bands before so you'd think that would be something
00:53:22
um that I'd somewhat be used to but um but I was a musician I wasn't just a band guy I was normally a hired musician
00:53:31
so I wasn't always in promo pictures and stuff like that so to kind of be um just feel how
00:53:41
um unpersonal that can be sometimes or the comments that you get it's almost like
00:53:48
they're talking about you as if you're not a person and I think that sometimes gets to me it is it is in a weird way a
00:53:57
bit of an emotional roller coaster because you know when you and I get together we put out what we feel is a
00:54:02
really good episode I'm I'm on cloud nine for a while you know I'm quite high on it for a while and um and then you
00:54:09
know the next morning or that evening I'll receive some negative email or see something negative on our website and it
00:54:16
just kind of kicks you right in the jib and you're like oh you know you you know
00:54:19
so so it's it is it's Peaks and valleys Peaks and valleys all right Captain how do you deal with all the negative people
00:54:26
that are trying to bring you down the way you approach the podcast he sends clowns to their house
00:54:33
I'll kick in the goddamn grundle on a serious note I mean when we first started it was horribly depressing I
00:54:41
think we're probably episode eight or 11 which one was Adam Walsh uh probably 11. yeah so I think it was
00:54:51
around there where I just told Nick and I'm I don't want to talk on the show anymore just because
00:54:57
here's the facts just the facts fans just the facts here's for all the just the facts people
00:55:04
I was diagnosed with different things but what I believe as I suffer from severe depression so when you read a
00:55:12
bunch of crap about how stupid you are or whatever when you're the one that's essentially putting the whole show
00:55:19
together that stuff can bother you and then one day it just hit me where it's like none of this is real this is we're
00:55:28
tossing this out into this universe that I'm not really a part of so I kind of put it in those terms so
00:55:35
whether it's negative feedback or positive feedback I try not to let either one affect me so it's like you
00:55:42
know when there's these goofy comments on Instagram that are positive um even though they might treat you like
00:55:49
a piece of meat those the good comments and the negative comments I try not to let affect me now
00:55:56
that being said there are a different type of comment when somebody says to me you help me get through work you help me
00:56:05
through my commute to me that is normally more sincere that's the stuff that's the reason why I'll put the time
00:56:12
and the effort into it you know to that that's the reason why I listen to podcasts you know was to get from work
00:56:20
and all that stuff so those those are con those comments affect me uh in a positive way where now the haters the
00:56:29
haters going to hate ayners gonna ain't but even the you know some of the silly comments that are brought try not to
00:56:37
you know have one way or the other affect me and and I don't want to I don't want to give the vibe out that it
00:56:43
it's all negative feedback I actually want to thank everybody um I didn't get a chance to do this
00:56:49
because I received so many emails from people that were sending links or copies of the Boston Globe magazine they did a
00:56:57
very they did really good coverage on the body barrels case that that we covered
00:57:03
um and that's it's a recent article so I've had a ton of people sending that to me and I just wanted to take this
00:57:08
opportunity to thank everybody that sent me that incredible article by the Boston
00:57:13
Globe how many beers do you normally drink during an episode um I would say an accurate statement would
00:57:23
be two um I think there used to be more used to be more but then towards the end I would
00:57:30
notice that I was talking in circles um which I which I do naturally anyway but uh yeah so two would be an accurate
00:57:37
statement sometimes I just taste the beers again I don't want to make it like a dark depressing episode this is
00:57:43
supposed to be a fun episode for us uh we kind of needed a break but we get asked all these questions we thought now
00:57:51
we just answered them on the show sometimes I just sip take a couple tastes some episodes I'll drink some
00:57:58
beers but again I I deal with uh depression so I have to watch how much I drink on a weekly you know people will
00:58:07
send me a Snapchat hey what are you drinking tonight well maybe not anything um but that's just something for my own
00:58:15
personal mental health and and physical health you know what the other thing that's fun about this show too Captain
00:58:20
is that we you know we kind of have different things that we do for the show we have different departments and you
00:58:27
know so the captain if you send something regarding social media he's gonna he's gonna be the one to respond
00:58:35
um and if you send something regarding email or typically with the website itself with the blog uh that's going on
00:58:42
there typically it's me that you will get the response from so rarely do we have a situation where we are able to
00:58:50
both give an answer uh regarding one question so that's really I think for me the big reason why why we wanted to do
00:58:57
this today yeah and if you if you're not following Nick on untapped you should do
00:59:02
so why am I why is Nick on untapped and I'm not Nick doesn't do any social media
00:59:09
well Nick likes to frequent bars and he drinks a lot more beers than I do so that's why he and you need to follow him
00:59:16
because it's pretty interesting have you ever had any nightmares about the cases
00:59:21
you covered yes yes I have but I can't specifically hone into a a specific case I told you about the
00:59:30
time where um this is kind of a a funny story for me one time I fell asleep listening to a
00:59:37
podcast uh not our show it was a true crime podcast I believe it might have been true murder uh big shout out to God
00:59:44
Dan zupanski my buddy Dan zupansky The Godfather of True Crime and I think I was listening to his show and he was
00:59:51
talking about um a a guy that had abducted some teenage girls and this was technically a
00:59:59
couple of these cases were technically solved so he was able to give an account of what actually took place
01:00:06
um so I woke up in the morning and uh I I grabbed my the first piece of paper I could find in a pen and I started
01:00:13
jotting things down because I believed that I had some kind of dream that some some kind of psychic dream where I knew
01:00:21
what happened to these poor these poor teenagers and then I quickly noticed that my my uh my bed phones were
01:00:29
connected to my phone and they were lying on the bed next to me and I checked the episode and I listened to it
01:00:35
again that day and realized that everything that I dreamed was because I was hearing it through the bed phones as
01:00:42
I was sleeping yeah a lot of people uh fall asleep to our show or other True Crime shows and I find that a little odd
01:00:49
you know just a little odd well it's talk it's kind it's pretty much talk radio which can be a kind of a soothing
01:00:56
thing to listen to yeah one of my producer friends has begged me to do a sleep podcast where I just uh you know
01:01:04
talk like this and put people to sleep I probably won't do that because I don't have a lot of time
01:01:10
um Azure fan base has been growing internationally will we start discussing cases outside the U.S this comes from
01:01:18
Pete we we've done a few um we've done a Canadian case um one in England and one in Sweden if
01:01:29
there's more I apologize if I can't recall them there there are some fascinating cases in other countries
01:01:36
that we would like to cover um I got one that's from Japan right now that I've been looking at a lot to to
01:01:42
try to put on the show there's some issues with that um it's not something that we try to
01:01:48
stay away from um but I will throw this out there if you listen to other True Crime podcasts
01:01:54
that are based in other countries ninety percent of the time they're reporting on
01:01:58
cases that took place in the United States um and and I believe unfortunately that
01:02:04
our country has kind of been known become known for tragedy and and serial killers and stuff like that as far as
01:02:12
stories go in the news some countries do not like to provide much information on
01:02:19
their stories they don't want this world perception that everybody in that country is bad so they really
01:02:26
vanilla everything and that would make it tough on our end for research and presenting purposes when is the captain
01:02:33
going to reveal his real name his address and phone number um I'm not so you look if you direct
01:02:42
message me on a social media um I I normally tell you I don't give I know I might want you to guess a couple
01:02:48
to see how ridiculous it is I think at one point Nick called me mark on a show and a lot of people went oh it's named
01:02:56
his real name's mark my real name is not Mark his name is Marcus the another question we get uh got a lot
01:03:04
from our Facebook group you know we got a lot of emails so we kind of gathered those together but we're also taking
01:03:11
these questions from our Facebook group uh so if you're not follow us on our Facebook you should do so and also a fan
01:03:19
page that was uh started by a buddy or he's been come he's becoming more of a buddy uh Cody and he sent us a bunch of
01:03:26
questions from the listeners so uh did Nick fix his squeaky chair I have not fixed the squeaky chair right and it's
01:03:34
driving me nuts three weeks three weeks just fix the chair you guys cover a lot of missing person cases is
01:03:41
there one that resonates with you more than others well of course I think the answer will
01:03:48
be Brian Shaffer because he was roughly our age he was in our community um also the Joey Le Bute case again
01:03:57
roughly the same age we knew people that knew them we hung out at places that they hung out so
01:04:04
especially with me playing uh across the in the the courtyard from Ugly Tuna for years
01:04:12
and going in and out of the same parking garage that Brian Shaffer went in and out of that case will always resonate
01:04:19
with me a bunch how do you guys decide which stories and cases to cover on the podcast I think we've covered this quite
01:04:29
a bit throughout different episodes um 99 of the cases we cover are listener suggestions we get a ton of them and I
01:04:40
and I thank everybody for them um and I want everybody to know that uh you know I reply to about 90 of those
01:04:47
suggestions they all go on a list somewhere um by now we have a stack of lists and
01:04:55
what I try to do as well is when we receive multiple suggestions regarding the same case they get a little check
01:05:01
mark and sometimes the number of check marks that a case has will have a direct impact on how soon we cover the case uh
01:05:10
Jesse and and other people have asked uh what's the what do you like most about doing this podcast and what do you like
01:05:17
the least about it I like the opportunity to discuss the cases um you know I true crime's always been a passion of
01:05:27
mine it's something I've always read and followed um the but it's kind of a double-edged
01:05:33
sword for me because as much as I like it I used to be able to step away from it from time to time you know
01:05:39
um when there are other things going on in my life or other interest uh take the
01:05:44
front seat um you know True Crime could take a back seat so my favorite part is is actually
01:05:51
researching and presenting the cases and working with the captain but my what what has become my least favorite is
01:05:59
that on some level I liked being able to walk away from it and take a break from
01:06:04
it where I don't feel because of our grueling schedule that's not an opportunity that I have anymore this is
01:06:10
an interesting question from our Facebook group from Marie I know you guys used to live together what were the
01:06:16
worst habits uh you both figured out about each other do you want me to go first this is a
01:06:23
really we live together a really long time ago this probably 15 years ago wow that's crazy it was it
01:06:33
was that long ago now uh but we only lived we shared an apartment for what about eight or nine months it was I feel
01:06:39
like it was under a year yeah it wasn't that long um so I had a roommate that moved out
01:06:44
and he had a girlfriend that moved she ran for her life she went all the way to Nebraska to get away from
01:06:54
um and the cat the captain was uh looking for an apartment and I said hey come help me with my bills I don't even
01:07:00
think I was looking for an apartment come help me with my bills because I can't afford this apartment anymore by
01:07:05
myself um it gave me a great deal by the way the best part about living together was
01:07:10
when we would sit around and drink and play video games which we don't really play video games anymore but I remember
01:07:16
we would have such I always had such a good time sitting around playing video games with you because you just cracked
01:07:21
me up uh we watched a lot of True Crime docs uh during that time too the The Habit that stands out for me the most
01:07:28
about the captain that drove me crazy oh okay okay here we go because he's probably got plenty of things to tell
01:07:33
you about me that I'm hoping he leaves some of those out um okay so if it's winter time for some
01:07:41
reason the captain back then I don't know if it holds true today but back then if it was winter and it was 10
01:07:47
degrees outside the captain would wear shorts and a cut off t-shirt and crank the the heat up and if it were
01:07:56
summertime he would wear sweatpants and a hoodie and crank the air conditioner up I could never get a full gauge on why
01:08:03
why that was the uh why that was the the choice of clothing well we work different schedules too so that was a
01:08:10
little different yeah I you know that time period of living in that apartment reminded me more of uh you know just
01:08:19
kind of living alone because it wasn't like you were there a lot right I would be there at different
01:08:25
times and you would be there at different times Nick would his big it wasn't a problem for me but he would
01:08:33
drink sometimes so much he would he would walk in and he'd just be staring at his fish tank
01:08:39
and I go what the hell are you doing they're fascinating I'm watching my fish and and by the way he'd have Led
01:08:46
Zeppelin like crank to 11 and the neighbor would be knocking yeah we would get I I instructed the neighbors to not
01:08:53
don't bother walking all the way to the door just knock on the wall and I'll turn down the blaring music that I
01:08:59
probably that I should have never had at that level anyway and I'd always use a Mitch Hedberg line I'd I'd go up to the
01:09:05
guy would be knocking and I go up to the wall and go hey man you're going to have to go around
01:09:10
there's no door on my side um but yeah so I mean but it was good he's uh he was a pretty good roommate
01:09:19
Emmanuel asks have you ever gave a br3 bottle caps uh if you look on my untapped you will you will see some
01:09:28
beers that I've rated as low as maybe a two or one and a half unfortunately for the fans of sours out there I know sours
01:09:36
are kind of a popular Trend right now I do not like sour beers rarely I will get
01:09:43
one or have one that somebody will suggest or hand me and and I will enjoy it um but no I don't I don't typically like
01:09:51
sour beers if I want something that has that kind of flavor I would rather just have a glass of of wine
01:09:59
um one I think the other thing too is like why would we have a crappy beer on the show that we didn't like yeah that's
01:10:05
kind of a rule like I won't put anything on the show that would be lower than like a three and a half because it's
01:10:11
supposed to be a beer recommendation it's not not just you know not just something to fill time you know we could
01:10:17
pick a beer at random and it'd be a a beer that sucks but we're not going to do that we're gonna we're gonna go the
01:10:24
extra mile and make sure that we're putting out a beer that we're like here this is something you should experience
01:10:28
uh Jason asks when is the TV show coming tomorrow um it will be on tomorrow and it will be
01:10:36
it will be every Saturday immediately after the uh children cartoons on Saturday mornings well we've talked to
01:10:42
NBC a little bit and uh we want to do a show called The Butler but that's not you know that's not it's not going to be
01:10:49
about True Crime it's a joke about nothing well it's a show about crime because the guy does crime he does a
01:10:57
crime and then he's sentenced to be the butler these these are all joking answers we don't we don't hold any power
01:11:03
over um how that works out yeah at the end of the day we really enjoyed doing the
01:11:10
podcast and we really enjoy uh the listeners of the show so and we've actually changed that we've now we don't
01:11:17
have anybody beating down the door here but we've had several people contact us great people with great ideas but we
01:11:24
have always thrown back at them and said hey remember we got into this to be podcasters we love doing our show if we
01:11:33
were to take on another project it cannot affect or downgrade this show in any way yeah and the next big project
01:11:40
for us is like we talked about a little bit earlier is uh we're really putting some time and effort into an audio dock
01:11:47
because we just think that would be interesting to do and just something different for us
01:11:53
um to kind of really understand how like something like cereal was done Kathy asked boxers or briefs boxers okay once
01:12:01
in a while maybe uh a boxer brief yeah I'm a I'm a boxer brief man myself no boxers for me uh we
01:12:11
answered this on the other podcast uh the other question and answer podcast like I said that's free on the store
01:12:16
Page uh at truecrime garage.com but do you listen to other True Crime podcasts and if so what are your favorites
01:12:25
um yes so just honing in on True Crime podcast my favorites would be maybe not in any particular order but
01:12:34
ones that I regularly Listen to I do I do miss episodes because we've spent so much time on this project but I love
01:12:41
true murder that's no secret I like rippercast a lot um that's a great show sword and scales
01:12:47
good Generation Y is good um the nighttime podcast is is a favorite of mine but they don't not all
01:12:54
of those do they always cover straight up True Crime yeah Jordan is great if you haven't listened to the nighttime
01:13:01
podcast he always comes up with uh interesting topics even if it's not true crime
01:13:07
um I'm not going to go into a bunch of details check that out Tom the captain sent you Eric asked how many moms does
01:13:14
the captain actually know 37 in which ways do you think you have grown personally since you've started the
01:13:21
podcast I've put on seven pounds the um maybe they want a real answer regarding just the podcast itself
01:13:31
um I think I've gotten a little better about researching um throughout um we wanted to see at the start of the
01:13:39
year can we do two shows and the reason why was the more and more we got into it
01:13:45
look I understand some people just want the facts just want the facts that's not
01:13:50
interesting to me the interesting thing to me is the facts and then bringing your personality to
01:13:56
the table but your research has gotten so much better that I feel some some some some
01:14:03
cases for sure it's like you need the two episodes just to get through the facts yeah and you
01:14:10
know what's weird for me is there's been a couple cases that we've covered that were really covered well in the media
01:14:17
whether it be news or actual documentaries or shows that I didn't follow when they were actually happening
01:14:25
um because I tend to like lesser known cases um so Casey Anthony although everybody
01:14:30
around me was following it I didn't follow it so much so it was very interesting to me to dive into it for a
01:14:35
week or so and the Aurora Theater shooter um I didn't I didn't pay I was so I was so upset emotionally
01:14:43
about that when it happened that I just shied away from anything that was reported in the news at the time so it
01:14:49
was it was interesting to to dive into that for a few days I need to go back when we talked about the True Crime
01:14:55
podcast I just want to put this out there I'm a murder Reno I don't know if I don't know if men are allowed to be a
01:15:02
murder Reno but I'm a murder Reno explain what that means for people that don't know well I I it's just what I
01:15:09
think my favorite murder uh listeners call themselves okay but I don't know if men can call them somebody looked that
01:15:15
up and also um the the funny girls I've only listened to their show a couple times but a whine in crime wine and True
01:15:22
Crime uh they always harass me about Dan I don't know who the hell Dan is but they harass me about him all the time
01:15:29
okay a bunch of questions but uh these are good questions so um Stephanie asked these and she said uh well you have to
01:15:36
do a case that borders um on whether it could be paranormal or Supernatural I think a lot of people
01:15:43
with um Elisa Lane at least a lamb case people thought there was maybe some Paranormal Activity and that one was on
01:15:52
our list for so long and we actually considered not covering it because we you know so much of the talk of it was
01:15:58
the Paranormal stuff um and once you get to looking at that thing man you have to talk about it you
01:16:05
have to cover it so yes we will there'll be other cases out there there's we're getting a lot of people that want to
01:16:10
hear uh cases that that involve like some kind of cult presence um so you know you would have to factor
01:16:17
that in there a question that we that I actually get a lot but you probably have
01:16:22
more interesting answers than me uh what are your favorite bands I would have more interesting answers
01:16:29
than you you know when you ask what's your what's your favorite unsolved case what's your
01:16:35
favorite band what's your favorite cheeseburger you know those questions those answers would I think with all of
01:16:41
us would vary by the day by our mood where we're where we're currently located if you were going to throw me on
01:16:48
an island and say you can only throw a few few albums in your box um who would it be I I have a hard time
01:16:56
living without Guns and Roses I love Guns and Roses I love the stones um I love a much lesser known band than
01:17:02
a band called Watershed that's uh local to Ohio they're kind of a mid to late 90s Midwestern rock kind of feel I own
01:17:13
you know nobody out there will know who they are but I own like five of their albums yeah Guns and Roses Stones I tend
01:17:21
towards more of the older stuff Zeppelin Pink Floyd um and a big shout out to all the Chris
01:17:26
Cornell fans in the Soundgarden Temple of the Dog fans I that really hurt hurt me uh
01:17:33
um he I thought for many years he was one of the best rock and roll singers heavy rock singers out there uh maybe
01:17:40
one also a guy I think you know when you're in like Middle School and High School you kind of have
01:17:45
these celebrities that kind of help dictate your style and I think Chris Cornell was definitely one of those guys
01:17:54
for you I listened to that super unknown album probably a thousand times um I listened to it the other day when I
01:18:02
when I got the news and man it we we really lost somebody special last week and and it makes me sad uh kickstand off
01:18:11
of that album is one of my favorite Soundgarden songs yeah I I said your your answers would be more interesting
01:18:17
because what I've learned through my um diving into music when you start studying it then you
01:18:27
start becoming fascinated by a lot of different spectrums and so the stuff that I listen to that I like some of
01:18:36
that stuff is purely uh for the studying of the music itself the complexity of it
01:18:44
so where some of the stuff would be like you like that why the hell do you like that three spectrums for me people like
01:18:52
snarky Puppy people like uh Jaco Pastorius people like The Bad Plus those would be on you know the intellectual
01:19:01
studying of Music side uh then there's people like you know John Mayer and Bob Dylan and um Amos Lee and the
01:19:10
singer-songwriter side where it's going to be more lyrical and then I have just a you know a obsession with the Sweet
01:19:17
Tooth um of just pure pop ballads I just love them you know Michael Bolton uh Celine
01:19:27
Dion Whitney Houston yeah I just look I think you're kind of getting into another question that that
01:19:33
we have on there that is you know what on your on your playlist would surprise uh people you know what on your music
01:19:41
playlist would surprise people Celine Dion I think people would be really surprised how much I I listened to
01:19:46
Celine Dion for me you know if I'm out partying with friends and it becomes my turn for my phone to be the one
01:19:52
presenting the music um I always get a little always get a little look when um because I I have a
01:19:59
lot of Lady Gaga on my oh yeah on my devices I love like I love Lady Gaga I'm not gonna lie that surprises everybody I
01:20:06
like hurt I like um uh Sia quite a bit oh yeah I'd like to see a lot too uh we just lost a bunch of listeners because
01:20:13
they went the captain listens to Selena Dijon what do you like most about the listeners and what do you like least
01:20:20
about the listeners I like everything about all of our listeners and you don't like there's nothing you
01:20:26
don't like there's nothing uh once in a while we um I love the feedback whether it's good
01:20:31
negative or in between um I don't care when someone's rude or calls me a name I know we kind of call
01:20:38
people names on the show so maybe it's not fair for me to think that way um but here's what I firmly believe
01:20:44
we've created a community uh and we couldn't have done it without the listeners they've been fantastic uh
01:20:51
they're the biggest part of the community uh we hope that one day we all retire together and move to beautiful
01:20:56
Parts Unknown we're currently installing a wave pool that's going to be amazing um it's only three foot tall right now
01:21:03
so we're working on that once we get the funds we're going to extend it send more
01:21:08
beer fun money uh so I like everything about the listeners I I can't think of anything that I don't like because I
01:21:14
think that people that don't like the show or don't like us or our presentation I think they eventually
01:21:20
move on so they're not part of the the community right and to stick with this this is really interesting question all
01:21:26
right so the question is do you think that there's a responsibility of a podcast host that are male that deal
01:21:33
with a larger audience that is female you know respecting their fans respecting their listeners I I think the
01:21:40
word fan is kind of goofy you're a listener you're a friend that's what you are you know it's it's pretty simple
01:21:49
um uh but respecting their listeners by not asking for nudes and being sensitive to
01:21:55
cases of rape and domestic violence uh well here's my thoughts okay I I love the question who do we do we have a name
01:22:04
Stephanie I think yep Stephanie great question uh but I I'll answer it by saying this I think I think anybody
01:22:11
putting out something for the general public to to Chomp on regardless of male or female or transgender or whatever the
01:22:19
situation I think we all have a responsibility uh to to be sympathetic to victims and be open-minded about uh
01:22:28
who we are speaking to and and how we were presenting information uh but as far as like the nude stuff I know that
01:22:35
Nick uh I've heard some rumors about other podcasts I don't request them I just send them right Nick likes to send no
01:22:42
that's a joke but you know what's so funny is that's a good question from Stephanie because what are what do we
01:22:47
keep hearing in the news right now that that a lot of these older men that are of some form of power on TV and
01:22:54
different shows that we're starting to find out about things that they're being accused of which may or may not be true
01:23:01
um here's the deal man people in every Walk of Life some of them cross the line from time to
01:23:08
time um do do I feel responsibility regarding that personally no because I don't think
01:23:15
that's a line that the captain or I would ever ever cross well it's let's put it this way
01:23:21
um I have received a bunch of I think inappropriate pictures no I'm not I don't even know if inappropriate is the
01:23:32
right word but you know when somebody sends you a Snapchat and there's four pictures of food right this is what I
01:23:38
had for breakfast this is what I had for lunch and then all of a sudden it's them
01:23:42
in the shower here's here's a picture of me wearing nothing but bacon right my reply was
01:23:50
just it's a little odd why because I don't know yet and I think I see you paid your water bill this
01:23:59
month right but I I think um I think that stuff is should be saved for people that you have intimate
01:24:07
relationships with are you trying to learn about that person that stuff is not for some meat guy that you listen to
01:24:14
once a week talk about murders you know that's you know that's just where I stand on it do you guys hang out outside
01:24:23
of doing the podcast um on occasion not as much as we used to because we do spend so much time uh
01:24:30
together with this project um we I think part of it is we need our space away from one another as a way of
01:24:38
having space away from the show and from True Crime in general um on you know it's exciting to to hang
01:24:47
out uh with the captain um on most levels the problem is we're both so eyeballs deep in this project
01:24:53
that a lot of times now when we do hang out it's it feels a lot like work because we talk a lot of shop yeah and
01:25:00
we annoy each other like so much more than we used to so there's a lot of times where it's just like uh you know I
01:25:08
sent him a text yesterday and then he's sending me shitty texts back you know two minutes later and it's like you have
01:25:14
to remind him I didn't mean it shitty just but you know we can it's just any time like when you go on vacation with a
01:25:21
best friend and by the end of it you're like God I'm sick of this this guy ain't
01:25:24
my best friend anymore right some are Jerry all right next question uh this one is for the captain captain you
01:25:32
obviously produced the show and record the show have you produced for any bands or recorded any bands well and this kind
01:25:39
of goes with another question because somebody asked what's our regular jobs do you want to start with your regular
01:25:45
job uh I'm I'm involved in Property Management um and I have been for many many years
01:25:51
um it's something I enjoy doing um so that's kind of my regular job someone enjoys doing yeah it depends on
01:25:59
the day yeah well it's any job with hungry right and my mine is pretty simple I used to play a bunch of cover
01:26:05
band gigs I I've stopped doing that because of this show the show has afforded me to be able to not play in
01:26:12
the cover bands anymore which has been great but cheers to the guys that I used to play with great guys
01:26:18
um but now all this stuff is just Studio stuff so if you haven't checked out I have a singer-songwriter that a
01:26:23
singer-songwriter record that I just did called St Patrick and the album is called tin man you can find that on
01:26:30
iTunes uh we've received a lot of good feedback on a handful of those songs yeah you know people are always
01:26:37
surprised when they're like wow this is very uh sad and sappy well that's what you get that's what you get I didn't
01:26:44
find it all that sad and sappy but um you know one thing I do miss Captain is that I I used to go and see his bands
01:26:53
um and I say bands plural because you know I do different projects throughout the years but sometimes he'd be playing
01:26:59
in multiple bands at once um so I always enjoyed going he would play sometimes two three times a week now I would try
01:27:07
to go one so once a month was usually what I'd like to do once a month or so it was always a good time so I do I do
01:27:13
miss that Captain well he always ran up my my bar tab as much as I could but no so what I do for a living now is um you
01:27:21
know if if more people would buy that record I could just do that for living but I I work for a producer in Australia
01:27:29
and we do songs for films or commercials and I do editing work that way so audio
01:27:36
engineering is basically the the simple answer so when you people go your show sounds pretty good I'm like well it
01:27:42
should because that's what I do Bradley asked how is Nick able to keep the conversation going when the captain
01:27:51
always makes his hilarious comments I don't find them all that funny oh jab um no no I actually I find the
01:28:01
captain very funny but um you know I'm the True Crime dork me I'm I'm I'm already like merged into the
01:28:09
the story and and how we want to deliver it um so I you know I just try to keep on
01:28:16
Pace it's all about keeping on Pace okay a couple more uh thoughts on the upcoming Brown season well they break
01:28:21
500 this is from Brian oh Brian I love you I love the snowball question um here here we go Brian
01:28:29
bad news we will not be 500 or better than 500 but good news I got good news we're moving in the right direction I
01:28:37
really believe that picking up mccordy will sure up the defensive backfield quite a bit uh which is going to be
01:28:43
important because our defensive front is going to be incredibly disruptive to uh
01:28:48
any offense that we play this year I looked at the schedule I'm thinking seven games is kind of the over and
01:28:54
under we for those of you that don't know football real well you play in a division with three other teams four
01:29:01
teams in the division and you'll play each of those three teams twice once home and once away I think we'll split
01:29:06
the division I think we'll win three games in the division and there's there's four games in the regular season
01:29:11
that look to be winnable games so I think seven but Brian I got good news to you buddy cheers long distance cheers to
01:29:18
you because I think 2018 we will crack the 500 Mark a question that's asked often is why is the captain always mean
01:29:27
to name I'll let you take that one I don't know why you're mean to me uh I get really frustrated and Nick will
01:29:33
attest to this I'm setting up the show and putting all the pieces in place and you know if he messes up on a word
01:29:42
then I have to go back and then I'm editing um I just get frustrated and I'm really bad
01:29:49
at um he'll get mad about people mowing their grass or we had a a nest of birds in the garage not in the garage in the
01:29:58
gutter of the garage and um and I can hear it and you can hear it insane and I think he thought I was
01:30:04
doing something that was was messing with his audio well another thing too is uh
01:30:10
what's that what's that thing where you hate listening to somebody eat uh that's something I don't know anything
01:30:16
about you've you've told me about it I there's some people I don't like to watch eat right but well it's like I can
01:30:22
hear every Nuance of Nick's breathing and stuff so sometimes that just drives me insane
01:30:30
um but sometimes I try to turn that off the best shows are when I can just hit record and kind of turn everything off
01:30:39
and turn off the producer side and turn off the the audio dork side and just be a part of their conversation uh
01:30:47
interesting question is why do you tell people to be kind and don't litter is that like an inside joke question mark
01:30:55
no um I think everybody should be kind to one another and I don't think anybody should throw their trash on the on the
01:31:02
ground um I'm not like some big environmentalist if if that's what anybody's wondering but you know a few
01:31:09
years ago I did have a problem um because one thing that drives me nuts is when I see somebody roll down their
01:31:16
window and throw a pop can out or uh or a bag of of fast food here's a news flash for everybody everywhere you every
01:31:26
destination you end up will have a trash can at the other end if you're going to
01:31:30
a public place if you're going to a restaurant if you're going to a gas station you're going to your own home
01:31:35
there will be a trash can there if you're so lazy that you can't throw away your own trash and furthermore so
01:31:42
selfish that you think that everybody else should just walk amongst your trash because you're a lazy low life
01:31:50
um then no I just it bothers me and like I said a few years ago I had to stop myself a couple times because I started
01:31:57
I I started following cars if I saw somebody throw something out I'd follow them for a little bit like I was going
01:32:03
to do something at the end of that ride no I just think we live we're fortunate enough to live in a beautiful planet in
01:32:12
a beautiful surrounding there's if you have any future at all you would want to keep it beautiful for yourself and the
01:32:19
rest of us Bonnie asks have I ever tried cheese on an apple pie yet have I done that no I'm not I'm not a psychopath
01:32:27
I've tried it once not since the show you're a psychopath I tried it once not going to do it well maybe I'll do it one
01:32:34
day we'll do a meet up somebody bring some apple pie with some cheese on it I'll eat it here's why I tried it
01:32:40
there's a part in Pulp Fiction where um I believe it's Bruce Willis's girlfriend and she's been waiting for
01:32:47
him all day long at the hotel and all she wants to do is go to the diner and get a nice meal and get a piece of pie
01:32:53
with cheese on top and so I thought wow I've never heard of that before this is crazy talk
01:33:00
I I was I was hanging out with my grandmother recently after that after seeing that movie and thinking about the
01:33:06
cheese on the pie and because I was wondering if it was like an old school thing that I just didn't know about she
01:33:12
said she had many times in her life had had well she's a raging psychopath and um
01:33:18
thanks for talking poorly about my grandmother fine that's right um but uh yeah so I tried it uh didn't
01:33:27
love it all right we'll do uh let's do two more questions and get out of here because I gotta do some work uh John
01:33:33
asked have you ever and we get asked this all the time when are you gonna start uh patreon site
01:33:40
I don't think we're going to we're not going to um we know that other shows do it they
01:33:45
do a release if you release early here's the fact of the matter and then the people that say don't do ads go back
01:33:52
to not doing ads the ads is what affords the show we couldn't do two shows a week without ads
01:34:00
right because we have to spend a lot of time and energy on it as a way to supplement it it's also a way
01:34:07
that you don't have to supplement it we're not asking for your dollar we're getting dollars from the ads and then
01:34:14
that way we can put out free shows and we'd rather put out eight free shows a month or whatever to come you know two
01:34:21
two free shows a week than to charge you more show you know for more shows now we
01:34:28
do have some bonus episodes that we're doing and some of those are going to be just
01:34:32
you know one parters and things like that um well and we've been lucky though too because with with our show we had
01:34:41
this dumb idea about beer money you know buy us around for next week's show and everybody has been overly generous with
01:34:49
that you know we we do get a good response from that and so and we're currently way behind yeah we can only do
01:34:55
so many shout outs a show and I apologize that we haven't got to you yet but we do do them on a first come first
01:35:00
serve basis um and so we will get to everybody eventually um we understand why other shows do the
01:35:07
patreon I think it's a great thing um and it works for their platform and their show
01:35:13
um our show like I said we got the beer fund build in there so it's not it's not
01:35:18
really necessary right like we said uh we're way behind on it so sometimes people message us and go hey I donated
01:35:25
last week and I haven't heard my name yet you're not going to hear your name for a couple weeks we're behind so and
01:35:31
we apologize and we apologize but it's out of our control but we're also not going to spend you know 10 minutes of
01:35:37
the show thanking people no but we could do like once every three months we could
01:35:42
do a a drunken nick uh Shout Out Show where it's just me butchering everybody's names and locations and
01:35:51
right uh you know nobody wants to listen to that okay so the last question we'll
01:35:55
do for this q a session is has Brittany and Phoenix wants to hear that episode no no
01:36:03
have you been recognized in person since birth have you been recognized uh from the show no I don't think that I have
01:36:12
I've had people um look at you funny um Nick told me this story one time where he's like he's I had a true crime
01:36:22
Garage shirt on and these people were kind of looking at me funny yeah yeah I did I did have that happen but I've had
01:36:28
other people you know tell me later that somebody came up to them and said hey was that um
01:36:36
was that the captain or was that Nick from from True Crime garage so no I've not experienced it firsthand uh I had a
01:36:44
listener message me I was at a local uh Pub that I like to go to uh Hopyard 62 I
01:36:50
think it's gone I just got a hop yarn you just called it something but it's a top yard yeah and I I like to get their
01:36:56
flights um the only Annoying Thing about those guys is you just say just give me a
01:37:01
flight but what what do you want just whatever no but what do you like to just pick just that's why I'm here it's for
01:37:09
you to pick in their defense they're not used to that that I know I know type of
01:37:14
ordering so we're outside and we're you know drinking my flight and I guess somebody heard my voice and was like oh
01:37:21
my God that has to be the captain uh and they didn't never came up and said hello
01:37:27
they message you later that they had seen you somewhere yeah well the I think the girl's husband said hey uh me and my
01:37:34
wife were here and we thought it was you we couldn't tell we tried to listen and
01:37:39
I said this you should have came and said hi I would have bought I would have bought beers for everybody uh I had a
01:37:45
lot of flights that night I got a little out of control that's what I like to call around the world right well that's
01:37:51
what I like to call emptying out my savings account um no but just you know be nice and
01:37:58
respectful and just know I mean I'll kick the [ __ ] out of a clown's junk don't think I won't kick you if you get
01:38:06
out of line that's all I'm saying but if you recognize us I which you probably won't unless you're in Columbus
01:38:12
um come say hi have a beer all right that's enough of the questions that's enough of the business
01:38:19
that's enough of the questions thanks for uh thanks Aurelia at our Facebook page for the help thanks for Cody on the
01:38:28
the fan page if you haven't checked that out on Facebook it's it's it's actually
01:38:32
really cool it's not so much like oh let's uh let's talk about how awesome Nick and the captain are it's more it's
01:38:40
a kind of a group discussion about the cases so if you listen to the episode and you have some thoughts and opinions
01:38:46
that's kind of what they do there and it's pretty cool and it's run by a good guy named Cody uh as always follow us on
01:38:52
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01:39:00
thank you to everybody for joining us in the garage this week and thank you especially to those of you that
01:39:05
submitted questions for the Q a show we can't wait to see you back here in the garage next week until then you better
01:39:12
be good you better be kind and please don't let her thank you [Music]