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around grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] It is believed that September 2nd Friday
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1977 just after work is the last sighting of Simone riding her she was 17 years old and she's been missing ever
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since she worked her shift that day at the rainbow restaurant in NAIC Massachusetts she was supposed to be
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heading out to chapaqua to a cottage that her family owned to join them for the long weekend if not longer for many
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years the rainbow restaurant was believed to be the last place that anyone reported seeing
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Simone but in 1986 a witness came forward who said that no he gave Simone a ride and he had a very different story
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to tell now this man doesn't just walk into the police station and give this information willy-nilly now what
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happened was we talked about yesterday how the Sherborne Police Department over the years continued to go to the media
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to channel the public to get information in Simone's case so what takes place here
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here in 1986 Captain is that they had just did a story in the newspaper that came out the day
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before so this man walks into the police department and says I have some information for you right that I
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actually gave this young woman a ride and what prompted him to come into the police department was he saying look
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I I didn't I was unaware that this was a case that this was something that was of
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importance until I read the newspaper article yesterday in my paper and so I am here to give you some
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information now what's really interesting about this okay so this is a there there's some weird things here
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yeah let's get into it let's get weird yeah we're going to get very weird because what happens here is th this is
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like a tight rope moment I believe in this cas case so you got to walk this fine line and there are things that
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could tip you to the side of disbelieving everything this man says or tip you to the other side where you fall
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and then believe that this is true that this really took place and this is good information in the case so the short
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version of it is this witness was an elderly man who unfortunately like several other persons that we've
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discussed in this case is now deceased so we can't go back and interview him again but in 1986 he's saying that he
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was in he came into the police department saying that he was in route in 1977 he's in route to go out to the
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cape he says that he's pulled over near or at a rest area right this is on Route
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128 and Route 109 in Westwood Massachusetts he believes that he's pulled over by a State Trooper
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and the state trooper during the interaction with this elderly man says hey I got this girl that's
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going out to Martha's Vineyard to Cape Cod according to the man this girl was in the back seat of the trooper's car
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and he says look could you give her a ride the rest of the way to which this older gentleman says sure no problem so
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he says that he this girl gets in his car they they talk quite a bit while they're traveling together a lot of
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chitchat they they figure out that they're roughly from about the same area they don't know each other prior to this
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ride but this witness says that he dropped Simone the person he believes to be Simone riding her that he drops her
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off at hyenas near the airport saying that he last saw her walking towards a nearby restaurant uh there were two
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restaurants in that are at the time one a Howard Johnson's and two a ground round both tasty treats the problem here
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though is Captain this witness's account has not been confirmed I got a couple questions
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though right he's coming forward N9 years later a long time and so he would have been 79 at the time that he came to
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the police department and he would have been 70 at the time that he gave this young person a ride if in fact he did
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right so many questions one did law enforcement pick up hitchhikers like I don't I didn't know if that's a thing I
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mean I know sometimes I've known local police officers that have like seen somebody that like walks to work at the
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at the local Wendy's and they might go hey I'm heading that way you want me to give you a
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ride but for for a State Trooper just to pick pick up a hitchhiker she's young and she's
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attractive so I guess there's a possibility so that's confusing but it's also confusing to
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me why would the trooper put this 17-year-old basically into the care into the custody of this elderly man that
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he's pulling over it just it doesn't make a lot of sense no it it doesn't make sense the the thing here is I know
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gave out a couple different uh routes and whatnot but but primarily this would be 95 that this man would have been
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traveling on and what's interesting though is again he would have lived only a handful of miles away from where
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Simone ringer lived so it's not out of the question that he would be traveling in the same direction because we know
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he's going to roughly the same general location that she intends to go to however they're they're not going close
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enough to one another that that that she would ride with him for the entirety she
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needs to get off at some point and go her own way so that makes some sense in what is his purpose for his travels
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apparently he's a has a hobby of working and and restoring clocks yeah and so he
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was traveling out there to pick up some parts some clock parts and says that you know this I got
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pulled over and then I wasn't looking to pick up a hitchhiker but the officer asked me if I would drive this girl
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closer to where I was headed and I said sure no problem now back to what you're talking about here Captain it's I think
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it's actually very common not for an officer to hand a civilian over to another civilian but I would think that
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it's rather common that if a police officer especially a State Trooper somebody that's primarily working the
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freeways and the highways in most jurisdictions in Most states it's illegal for pedestrians to be walking
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near the freeways and the highways right and so those persons are going to get picked up they're likely not going to
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get charged with anything depending on how nice or not nice your officer is you might get a ticket but I would believe
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that if she let's pretend that she did hitchhike and made her way somewhat to her destination right at some point
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maybe it's it's fair to make the assumption that maybe she traveled a distance and got dropped off by another
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ride that she hitched and maybe an officer spotted her walking and says n this can't happen I
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got to get her off of the the freeway here travels some distance gets to talking to this old man and says oh you
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know she's not done anything wrong maybe this old guy didn't really do anything wrong hey you're both going the same way
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he's an old old dude maybe uh he seems well enough and good enough maybe I'll I'll hand her off the problem becomes
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Sherborn police cannot find any record of an officer picking up Simone ridinger or picking up a pedestrian cannot find
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any report of the traffic stop because that's the part of his story that what happened to that traffic stop he says he
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was pulled over he's not pulled over to give this girl a ride the officer wouldn't know where this guy's going no
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he's pulled over for some kind of violation now is it hey you know your your tail lights out but hey if you do
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me a solid and take this girl down the road a little bit for me uh we can just forget about it so I want to know what
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happened to that traffic violation the other thing but here's the thing like as unbelievable as this story
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seems he gives a description of the person that he tells police now he I don't believe at any time does he ever say she
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told me her name was Simone she told me her name was Simone writing her right I don't think that that's what happened
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when he reports this but the thing that you can that makes it so you cannot completely dismiss this as a
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possibility is the description of the clothes so he gives the description of the clothes saying that she was caring
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blue jeans with ripson patches a white T-shirt sneakers and she was carrying a gray duffel bag well what's interesting
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about him giving this description in 1986 the police don't have this description yet forget about the media
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or the public that clothing descriptions not been released to anybody and never was released once they
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get this information from the old man they don't release this description until after talking to those two PES
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years later yeah when new detectives come on this case obviously they'd love to talk to this individual because he's
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the last known person to see her alive so he becomes a suspect in a way but I don't think this guy had any criminal
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history I don't think I mean again a a very simple hobby of he like to work and fix
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clocks but he's not alive but they're able to talk to his son and I don't know and this is kind of a heads or tails
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type thing the detective finds it a little suspicious that the the father never told the son about this and that
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is one thing when when I spoke with some of the officers that have worked this case over the years one a piece of the
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puzzle that I was unaware of then and still unaware of to this date and so as you said a bit of a head scratcher I
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want to know the details of choosing those words in that statement okay what what exactly does that mean does does
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that mean that father never tells son oh I picked up this girl and and gave her a
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ride that got pulled over by the police and you'll never they asked me to give this girl a ride and I dropped her off
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okay I can get that maybe dad doesn't tell son that right fast forward to 1986 how in the hell does somebody not
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tell and maybe maybe they're not close I don't know but I would think that if I read a newspaper
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article on a Tuesday let's say and Wednesday morning I'm in at the police station giving a report of something
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that happened to me nine years prior I think that's something I'm telling people well because it's such a abnormal
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activity yes it's not like oh well you know I went to the dentist the other day it's like ory hey I had to go pick up
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lumber at the lumber yard or I whatever this is a I was reading a newspaper report and they started talking about
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this missing girl that I believe I gave a ride to I believe I might be the last person that saw her alive yes so she's
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been missing for almost 10 years yeah you show up for a cup of coffee or church on Sunday bump into an old friend
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or you're hanging out with your son now keep in mind he's 79 years old roughly yeah in
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1986 so his son's a grown man but yeah you when there's no way that you're going hey what you been up to lately oh
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you don't go same old same old after you've had that experience you go no I read a newspaper article of a missing
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person who they believe has been likely murdered I figured out that day that I might have been a witness to something
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or have important information in this case from 9 years ago and I was sitting at the police station telling them
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everything I knew the following day yeah and I think we both agree it makes more
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sense for him to tell his son but we don't know their relationship we don't even know the frequency in which they
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talk to each other I have some friends that think it's crazy that I talk to my father once a week and and a lot of some
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of my friends that live in a different state than their parents they're like I don't speak to my parents but every 3
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months so I could see well it's time to call the parents and uh and this conversation doesn't come
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up you know so it's uh because it and what I mean by that is if if he read that news report went into the police
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Department the next time he talked to his son was 3 months later well maybe it's not something you bring up so here
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here's some things that I wanted to figure out because this situation throws a big fat monkey wrench
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into the whole investigation so if this guy yeah it either means one of two things in my opinion this story either
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makes him possibly the last I well as a story is today he would then become the last
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identifiable witness to Simone being alive and well or he's in the other category the
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suspect category my problem with the story is one the details of what she was wearing and the duffel bag which was
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never released so that points to the direction of go okay well this story is true but
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my big problem is because this story is out and then the story of Simone has already been out for a while why
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wouldn't this Trooper come forward and go yeah I actually picked her up I didn't know her name was Simone or I
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didn't remember her name was Simone and I had her take a ride with this elderly man yeah I'm I'm with you on that and I
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think part of the again I think that goes back to the early complications of the case she not officially reported
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missing until 9 days later did did did that Trooper did that story not reach him did did he never see a beond the
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lookout for this missing person well that's the one of the things that I think is the biggest problem like you
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said there's four locations that we have to look into in this case but the biggest thing to
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location number five potentially right right right five or six because you have the the Rest Stop Plus where he dropped
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her off at is a different location that's not where she' get the fer at right it from my understanding it's not
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terribly far and that that inlies a whole another set of questions that we haven't even got to yet I I think the
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big thing though is from her work to Cape Cod that 70 miles that's the problem because we know like in our town in our
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city Columbus Ohio you bring up Tyler Davis most people know who you're talking about missing person from Easton
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you bring up Brian Schaefer all the medical student that missing from Ohio State campus you go about an hour away
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they've never heard of the case so I think that 70 mile distance between the restaurant and Cape Cod that becomes a
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huge issue on why this case isn't solved well so here's some other problems right
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this the reports of of the clothing I mean he couldn't have made that up I yeah you know what I mean doesn't
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mean that it's Simone but the he couldn't have read the prior newspaper reports and gave this
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description be because you know this is not information that was publicly public
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knowledge at the time in fact he's the first one reporting that she's wearing something different and you have to
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wonder keep in mind they've still not interviewed any of the waitresses at this time this information after
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speaking to him does not go out to the public either so when you interview these waitresses years and years later
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and they're giving a different description of clothing than what was always reported and now it matches what
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this old dude told you in 1986 yeah that one really causes some alarm bells to go
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off but two he wouldn't have got this information from anywhere else now look Sherborne police they've done their due
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diligence on this they went to the state police to the state troopers and they try to track down any reports that would
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lead them to they're trying to verify this story is this story truth or a lie because if he's if he's lying then why
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is he lying right is he just some seeni old man some people do like to get involved in a case is he some weirdo
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that just wants to be in a case or is he injecting himself into the investigation
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because he has some kind of involvement in this disappearance just to put out some information that people might be
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wondering her social security has never been used and then there's been no activity on her bank account no
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deposit no withdrawal no check writing yeah that all stopped her social security number being used or the the
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bank account activity all stops 1977 so not been used since then but the the other curious parts of his
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story he tells police that he picked when he picked the girl up that he believed is
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Simone riding her he picks her up September 3rd at about 600 or 6:30 in the morning well we've we have all these
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reports now that she had left work by 4 p.m. right we now have 14 hours unaccounted
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for what again I I'm having a hard time figuring out the discrepancies between Friday evening and Saturday
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morning or arriving on Saturday uh the sun did confirm that his father was into clocks and did a lot of
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work on clocks so that part of the story seems to be true Sherborne police did their due diligence and even went beyond
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the scope of just the state troopers and thought well maybe it was a smaller agency a more local agency to that area
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and they checked and tried to find reports nothing that they could find that back up this story from 1977
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doesn't mean that it wouldn't have happened doesn't mean that the state trooper didn't fill out a report doesn't
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mean that the state trooper ever had any awareness that a person that looked like
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this went Miss yeah and just this statement real quick you know I was watching True Detective again season 1
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great show and they were talking about what type of detective you know Russ is and what type of detective he is and I
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would think if I if I was a detective I'd probably be old school yellow legal pads but nowadays you have to take that
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those notes and then put them into the system in in ' 77 we didn't have a system like that so how much information
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how many leads have been lost throughout the years of detectives that looked into
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this case and kept their own notes and never put them into the system also just like
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this nowadays when cops are making traffic stops or Troopers are making traffic stops they're putting all this
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into a computer system right away I mean even once they're able to say at this time
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this officer looked up this person's license plate number we don't have that information and that's another
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frustrating thing about this case I'm hoping that they were able to check like other Labor Day
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weekend years maybe the year before the year after could this old guy just have picked somebody else up right and he is
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telling the truth but it wasn't Simone uh the thing that's interesting to me though and scary okay so there's
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again it's it's the tight RPP the thing that's interesting to me that I think is fair I believe that
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probably a 70y old man would would take would recognize the ripped up and patched up
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jeans as maybe something unique especially if he's somebody that's not giving rides to persons often or maybe
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even ever maybe this is the only time he's ever done that the other thing that's scary to me
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is if he's not an i an eyewitness and he falls into the other category is the the recall of what she
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was wearing N9 years later right I was here in the garage studio with you seven days ago for hours
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yesterday for hour hours I could not tell you what you were wearing last week nothing when I saw you
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I was wearing nothing well that would have stood out quite a bit bit the the G the the person's name is Henry C and
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I'll spell his last name t i e WS so he like we said he has since passed away and well here's a here's a
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thing and not to interrupt you but we have these descriptions and the problem is they're loose descriptions of
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this jewelry we weren't able to interview this eyewitness quote unquote eyewitness but we're able to talk to his
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son it'd be interesting to talk to his son and go you ever seen any of these items because I could see some of the
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like maybe these uh the spoon bracelets or this uh uh silver necklace with some troise on it I could see that being
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taken as a trophy well the other problem that this air quotes witness pre presents
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is the suspects so police have suspicions of what may have happened to Simone and
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most of that all involves something very near where she worked and lived if this
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guy's story is true and it was Simone that he drove for some distance that day and if he dropped her off as he said he
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did well then that takes Simone out of the area and now those suspicions don't hold water so
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this that I I feel like this guy it when we say throws a monkey wrench into this investigation I think big time
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because you sit here and you go okay we're now tasked with some kind of problem yes we can have our
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investigation and continue as we as we are but then we always have this little nagging thing over here about this guy
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who may have given her a ride that takes away from all of our the other things that we found in our investigation which
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are all things very close to where she lived and [Music] worked welcome back cheers
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mates what do you say talk hands in the air power to the people talk hands in the air cheers to the people on the back
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cheers to you Colonel so if this case is going to stay at the local level we talked about the old man taking the case
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further away from the local Jersey jurisdiction but even well beyond that we have some efforts that have been made
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a good deal of efforts that have been made and you can see this based off of the namus website the national missing
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and unidentified person system so go to nam.com if you want to find some people that have been either unidentified or
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persons that are listed as missing so on namus what we learned from there Captain
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is that we have about 32 or so exclusions these are unidentified remains that were found in jurisdictions
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far and wide some even as far away as California or Florida or Ohio where we are and says you know hey I got somebody
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that vaguely fits the description of your missing person we need to do a little comparison here and they've done
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comparisons and have about 32 or so exclusions in that regard well well that's what's great is law enforcement
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has Simone's DNA so they can at least test it remains well they've been using dental records to make these exclusions
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so unfortunately they don't have a full DNA profile for Simone but that I've been told is in the works that they're
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working to get that full DNA profile and they hope and think that they will have
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that on file here soon soon which that will be the most definitive way for one to make these exclusions going forward
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right and so it's good though to hear that these other jurisdictions are aware and are calling and making contact with
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the current investigators in Simone's case as far as suspects go well we already talked about the elderly man he
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he can only fall into one of three categories identifiable witness suspect or his story is true but
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it's just a misidentification on his part it wasn't Simone he picked somebody else up either on that day or even at
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another date entirely but there were there and still remain some other suspects in this case
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now we want to focus in on potential relationships so there was a relationship that Simone
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was having with an older man at the time of her disappearance this man has been looked
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at and actually was cleared very early on in this investigation and he's cleared because
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well frankly it would be impossible for him to have direct involvement in her disappearance as he was locked up at the
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time right and this is interesting too because Simone would go and visit him at the
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corrections facility again from my understanding The Limited information I know or been told about this
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relationship is that it was kind of an onag off again relationship I don't know this individual's name I do know that he
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was older than Simone but one thing that I do know for certain is that when she would go to visit him this is stuff that
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had to be pre-arranged you would have to make arrangements well in advance to be
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granted access to see one another to have this interaction and the reports are that she was had
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made arrangements to visit him on the 17th of September she's last seen at work on the 2nd of September the elderly
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man says he picks her up gave her a ride on the 3rd of September we know Mom believed that she was going to arrive by
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the Third of September never did she's reported missing on the 11th now we're all the way out to the 17th of September
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1977 the police who are now looking for Simone catch wind of this arranged appointment
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to go see this man at the correction facility one they're going to want to talk to him anyway but two they really
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just want to find Simone and I think everybody's working and should be working under the premise that she's
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probably alive and just out doing her thing or or maybe she ran off somewhere whatever this is still early on in the
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investigation they go to the correction facility on that day on the day that the
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we have the appointment arranged for hoping to see Simone there they don't see Simone there obviously they
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interview this guy there that's when they get the records they do all their checking and find out that nope on the
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second and the third he was still where he is today in this Corrections Facility
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so we have the elderly man quote unquote eyewitness that gave her a ride we have the boyfriend but he's
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locked up do we have other suspects in this case we do so there is a person that is regarded as a creepy regular at
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the restaurant he is somebody that police are interested in he's not going to be the only person that they're
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interested in he this was a restaurant that was frequented by a lot of the locals there and they stayed pretty busy
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but there's some information from other persons that work there that have created an interest in this individual I
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don't know much about this individual but what we do know about another individual is there is a man named
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Daniel Newbert Newbert and I'm going to steal two paragraphs directly from a news
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article that says another question is a reference to a Daniel Newberg Newbert sent the family Simone's family
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pictures of Simone around the time of her disappearance what's really interesting about these photos for a
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couple for a multitude of reasons Captain but first is some of these photos were ones that were used in many
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of the missing persons Flyers early on and in fact I believe that a couple of these photos are still being used to
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this day maybe even in the the viap alert report that we get from the f bi so these pictures were used on many of
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the missing person Flyers the article goes on to State Police talk to Newbert who said he once gave ridinger a ride
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and asked if he could take photos of her Daniel Newbert gave the negatives to the
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police they also investigated another man who was allegedly into the quote drug scene end quote and trying to court
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Simone ridinger so there there's two individuals right there that are still of interest to investigators in this
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case and these both of these individuals would be local they would be townies they would be local I don't know if the
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creepy restaurant Patron is one of these guys that we just discussed you know do we have three guys
00:36:23
of Interest or two that part to me is clear now one thing that is of Interest too is a similar case that took place I
00:36:34
believe this yes this was 1985 so Simone goes missing in 1977 the old man comes forward in 1986
00:36:44
after he reads a newspaper article the day before but when that all of this is going on in the middle of all this we
00:36:51
have this case from 1985 and this is from channel 22 News wwlp.com working for you for 70 years is
00:37:03
what they tell us uh thank you for working for us at WWLP but so their article tunes of flowing Steve neelon uh
00:37:12
wrote this article and the the title is detective seeking closure for family of woman killed in
00:37:19
1985 and it reads Janine Callahan was following her morning routine the 24y old left her natic
00:37:28
Massachusetts home to walk to work at the now closed Zar store I don't know what a z
00:37:36
store but she never made it to work that's the key here and this was November 9th
00:37:43
1985 and they said that a month later her remains were found at the end of a dirt road now known as Cherry Farm quote
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she was naked with nothing but a pair of JY socks on end quote she was covered with a discarded
00:37:59
Christmas tree the medical examiner was unable to determine the cause of death there was too much trauma to the body
00:38:07
the investigation has been ongoing now for all of these years they believe this investigator
00:38:15
that's quoted a couple times in this article says that he believes that the perpetrator would have likely lived near
00:38:23
this Cherry Farm Road where she was eventually found uh to generate new leads in the case the
00:38:29
investigation uh added her to a deck of playing cards we've seen that in several
00:38:34
States over the years and they're just hoping to interview some people and get some more
00:38:40
information in this case and this detective is saying that they believe that it's still a solvable case her case
00:38:46
has been linked we're not saying it's absolutely connected to Simone Ringer's case the detectives aren't saying that
00:38:54
either they're just saying simply look the the two worked so this individual Callahan
00:39:01
Janine Callahan she lived and worked in natic Simone worked in NAIC and lived nearby in
00:39:08
Framingham the weird thing about their lives is up to the time that they disappear they're
00:39:18
both doing similar things in their life so they both moved into new apartments relatively short period
00:39:25
before they went missing again Simone in Framingham and Janine in na but not far
00:39:33
from one another regardless if these cases are connected at all what we need here is both of these cases to get
00:39:39
solved so anyone with any information that can help police in Janine Callahan's murder
00:39:46
investigation or any other cold cases for that fact in the state is asked to call 1877 R I solve
00:39:57
and so these cases are linked simply by the natic Massachusetts location well like I said
00:40:06
yesterday because I'm a Guinness not a genius a Guinness I think this is a really good
00:40:14
strategy as far as cold cases are concerned come out and say this is the information that we have this is what we
00:40:24
know for certain and here's the questions that we have as far as law enforcement goes because I think that
00:40:31
would really start sparking people's interest and also like I think with so many online sluther when you hear these
00:40:44
questions I think some of these sluther would go maybe I can find that answer to this question and so one of
00:40:53
the questions then becomes what hasn't law enforcement done what paths could we possibly take in this
00:41:00
case to solve it to get some resolve yeah the thing here is these are only leads that are not
00:41:09
followed up on for the most part because they're not leads that that's not information that
00:41:16
ever made its way to law enforcement so that's why they're telling you this is what we know this is what we would like
00:41:20
to know in Simone's case we need some leads give us some information that's going to give us a new lead to follow up
00:41:29
on and that's why I think it's so incredible and important that people keep their earballs completely open when
00:41:36
we say that the Sherborn Police Department is saying they're not asking for information in her disappearance they're
00:41:43
not asking for information in her murder they're not simply asking for information about a potential suspect
00:41:49
they're asking for any and all information regarding Simone right we need to learn more about about her life
00:41:57
we need to learn more about what she was up to and that's why I circle around this apartment idea that was the newest
00:42:06
thing in her life at that time that's a big moment in one's life to move out of mom and dad's house and get their own
00:42:14
apartment and she was only there for about two months or so prior to her disappearance what happened that night
00:42:24
what happened September 2nd to September 3rd why do we have that discrepancy in this
00:42:30
timeline of making her way out to visit mom and chill with Mom for a long weekend at the
00:42:38
cottage the other thing too is as the story always goes Simone was 17 when she was last
00:42:46
seen on September 2nd 1977 leaving from the former rainbow restaurant in naq Massachusetts after her shift she
00:42:54
planned to hitchhike to Cape Cod to catch a fairy to marth's Vineyard to meet up with her parents okay what fairy
00:43:05
there's multiple fairies that run out of there and all of the old newspaper reports they
00:43:12
reference Woods Hole that that would be where she was going to go to pick up the
00:43:18
ferry to get to her final destination which we've always been told that the Final Destination was chapaqua and the
00:43:25
Chapa quic area is where the cottage is located okay there's two fairies that run out of Woods
00:43:35
Hole so that's a certainly a possibility right the problem is that that is not neither of those Fairies get
00:43:43
her the closest to chap atic there's another fair that runs out of a completely different area that
00:43:53
would get her much closer to her final Des destination so why isn't that location ever referenced
00:44:01
as where she was headed there's just a lot missing from this story there's a lot of information
00:44:08
that's missing from this case and that is why police are asking anyone with any information at all to get
00:44:18
involved if you knew that she hated gym class give him a call right if you believe that you lived in that apartment
00:44:27
building with her for any period of time give him a call yeah did you know about did you work with her were you
00:44:35
friends with her and knew that she had a crush on somebody give them a call and as far as I'm concerned the way
00:44:44
that this case gets solved first off you have the obvious if we can find her remains that's going to set up a whole
00:44:55
different set of C circumstances for this investigation there will be evidence other evidence that will come
00:45:01
along with that finding that will generate new leads for the investigators in this case the other thing too is I
00:45:09
keep going back to this apartment man I can't shake it that police seem to know damn near nothing about this apartment
00:45:18
other than the addresses to 29 Linden Street Framingham that's the address that I was
00:45:24
given is there any solid paperwork or anything that backs up that that was the actual apartment was was there was she
00:45:32
in apartment A or B or or 101 was there an apartment number that's supposed to accompany this
00:45:40
address the thing the reason why I keep going back to that Captain is a couple of things cuz you're
00:45:47
nuts a rent was due at some point uhhuh and when rent wasn't collected who do we call we know Mom
00:45:57
helped her find the apartment when she goes missing did anybody ever go to the apartment and
00:46:05
collect all of her belongings she goes missing we're we're told time and time again she's last seen
00:46:13
September 2nd did she pay September's rent before leaving when was that due was it first
00:46:21
month last month situation anytime there's money involved there's usually some kind of Trail some kind of paper
00:46:27
trail here there seems to be no Trail Trails the trail is non-existent there should be some more
00:46:37
information regarding this apartment and I cannot help but believe that because there's so many
00:46:44
questions that start at Ground Zero which is her apartment and her work that this has got to be something very
00:46:53
local very local here and here we are in the garage with yet another case just hoping and praying
00:47:03
that with some information that we've been able to throw out and a lot of speculation that we've been able to
00:47:08
throw out that it generates more interest in this case and could potentially generate some
00:47:14
tips again if you know anything at all in this case if you know anything at all about Simone ridinger
00:47:23
please we encourage everybody with information to call the Sherborn Police Department their phone number is 508
00:47:32
65324 24 and we will include that phone number in today's show notes I want to thank everybody for
00:47:54
joining us here in the garage and sharing these cases on social media Colonel do we have any recommended
00:48:00
reading this week Captain we are recommending catch the sparrow a search for a sister in the truth of her Murder
00:48:06
by Rachel rear catch the sparrow is the gripping story of a young woman's murder
00:48:12
unsolved for over two decades brilliantly investigated and reconstructed by her stepsister growing
00:48:18
up Rachel rear knew the story of Stephanie ketty's disappearance the beautiful violinist and te had fled an
00:48:26
abusive relationship on Martha's Vineyard and made a new start for herself near Rochester New York and then
00:48:33
one morning she was gone check out catch the sparrow you can find that great title and many more other
00:48:40
recommendations on our recommended page on our website true Crim garage.com join
00:48:45
us back here in the garage next week and until then be good be kind and don't litter
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