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Unsolved Mysteries it's a mystery that is true and truly Stranger Than Fiction back in 1993 in Amarello Texas
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everyone was looking for the missing lawyer in fact one of the first headlines reporting the story was titled
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Unsolved Mysteries the abalene Reporter news said baffling Trail frustrates search for
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missing attorney the article reads in part he was a small town quarterback a graduate
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of Texas Tech University and a former judge friends describe David Lewis as the ultimate nice guy and family man but
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the 39-year-old attorney vanished Super Bowl weekend amid a baffling trail of Clues quote I changed my mind a lot on
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this said police detective James Smith saying I wake up at 2 in the morning thinking what ever happened to David
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Lewis Smith worked full-time on the case in the months following Karen Lewis reporting her husband missing in
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amarello they were looking for Miss man, 1600 M away in Moxy Washington police were working to identify a hitandrun
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fatality victim it would take over 10 years to connect the two cases this is true crime garage
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[Music] today we have a baffling True Crime Story on tap this is one that is sure to
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leave you scratching your head you will want to go digging after these episodes to see what you can find and I hope that
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you do but I think most will agree that this baffling story filled with mystery and question marks that will only leave
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you with more and more questions to start this story off we need to give a big shout out to two mystery solving
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partners and I would say mystery uncovering Partners first up we have the Seattle Post
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Intelligencer a fine newspaper in the great state of Washington today people typically say Seattle PI and a newspaper
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reading detective this is Washington State Patrol investigator Pat ditter ditter as one online report puts it at
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the time he was a 13-year veteran with a reputation for tenacity and attention to detail his
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boss is detective Sergeant Ken harkham of the Washington State patrols yaka office referred to Pat did as smart and
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very computer savvy all of this is going to play a big role in covering a portion
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of this week's mystery so how did the detective in a newspaper team up to solve a mystery simple detective ditter
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was inspired by a 2003 Seattle Post Intelligencer series that critiqued law enforcement's handling of missing
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persons cases specifically problems involved in investigating long-term missing person
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cases in the greater Seattle area one of the problems that was cited by the Seattle PI was simply that these cases
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especially in a big city that catches a lot of cases not just missing persons but all kinds of cases Robbery Homicide
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drug rated offenses missing persons cases specifically missing adult cases and unidentified remain cases were low
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priority for some agencies with heavy case loads another problem for these cases at the time was simply that law
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enforcement databases of such cases did not communicate making for fewer matches
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between missing persons and unidentified decedents there was a little cross referencing and the other bigger problem
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was connecting missings from other jurisdictions especially when you go outside of State lines connecting a
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missing person to an unidentified set of remains so at the time even at 2003 the success rate was quite low and
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thankfully we have grown from this evolved from this and we've made great efforts in the last two decades
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to bring more answers and give more people their names and find more missing people
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the series of Articles run by the Seattle PI the detective followed the series and the
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portion that really hit home for him was focused on the unreliability of NCC the
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National Crime information center he was concerned about the unreliability of getting computer hits within this
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specific database so he got to thinking if it can be wrong there meaning Seattle
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it can be wrong here so time for a little outside of the box thinking they had an
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unidentified from their jurisdiction that was on his mind this is an unidentified adult male who died 10
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years prior to did are reading these articles but no one knew who this guy was so they named him Moxy John Doe
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until they could give this person his name back this would be his temporary name name he was named after the town
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where he was found Moxy and Anonymous as a John de it's really sad quite sad even more so when
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you really dig into it I know for a lot of you listening out there that there is
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a missing person's case that is on your mind maybe it's somebody from your area maybe it's somebody that you read about
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online and have followed their case since Maybe you heard about their story here on True Crime garage and you just
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can't shake it it's on your back all the time you're thinking about it and you hope that someday they find this
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individual well there is a probability that states and says statistically anyway that that missing person could be
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simply an unidentified remains case from another jurisdiction especially if we're
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talking about something very far away in distance I know for somebody like the captain one of his passion cases is the
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Brian Schaefer case 27 years old born in Pickerington Ohio went missing from right here in Columbus way back in
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2006 he's not been seen ever since we covered the case a couple times and and have re Revisited the case multiple
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times on off the Record and in this John Doe case he's found with no identification on him and he's found
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dressed in army fatigues yeah so there are many people out there not just listeners or not just people who read or
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follow True Crime with these cases on their brain but the sad part of it is think about Brian Schaefer he's got a
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brother you think of like the Asia degree case from North Carolina missing since 2000 she's got a mother a father
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and a brother all of these people wondering what ever happened to their loved one where could they be hoping and
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praying that they're all right that they're safe and that maybe someday they come home and then as the captain
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pointed out we have this MOX this Moxy John do who the detective always wanted to put a name to
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this guy so the story that the Washington State Patrol had on Moxy John do is as follows on the night of
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February 1st 1993 we have several persons driving on State Route 24 this is east of yak
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Washington a lot of times this is reported this situation that we're about to go through this incident is reported
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as occurring in Yakama but it's actually in Moxy in the town of Moxy which is nearby so this adult mail is seen
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wandering on the highway near rard Road in the town of Moxy one of the drivers on the state route says that he turned
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around after seeing this this man again air quotes wandering and I want to get into that in a bit wandering on the
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road this is dangerous this is a state route these are high speeds this is at nighttime vision can be impaired he was
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concerned that someone is going to hit this a vehicle is going to hit this guy I don't know if anybody out there
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listening has been in this situation I can think of twice in my lifetime where I've called Highway Patrol or police
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because there is a incred ibly dangerous situation with a a child or a youngster
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that is in the middle of a road this individual decided to turn around because he wanted to warn be able to try
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to warn the passing cars like hey there's a there's a guy up here don't hit him or maybe even stop
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and talk to the the person offer them a ride ask him if they need help hey buddy
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get out of the road yeah it's an abnormal situation even when you're just heading down the freeway
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and you see somebody walking on the side of the road that's abnormal he turns around this motorist by the time he can
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return to the the spot where he saw the guy walking he found that the man had been struck by another vehicle whatever
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vehicle hit this guy was not present didn't stop kept going he didn't see the vehicle this man was quickly pronounced
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dead and as the captain pointed out there was no identification in fact if had there been identification on this
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man we wouldn't be sitting here telling the story very likely that we would in case
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yeah well it it gets difficult right because there's a whole lot of mystery here this is the first part of it so
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there's no identification on this person and then they have no missing person reports anywhere even somewhat local
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that match up with this man that they find in the road I do want to before we get too far down
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the road I do want to point out a few things and Captain I'm sure you you share this thought with me because one
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thing that was a head scratcher for me and I think this could play a key into people's thoughts and theories and
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speculation about the case when we get to the appropriate time for that but some of the reports that I've read over
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the last couple months read differently some say that this guy was walking in the middle and down the center of State
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Route 24 a couple of the reports I read say that he was running there are some reports that say that he may have been
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crossing the road it seems to me like the the majority of the reports state that he was quote wandering down the
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middle of State Route 24 we know with cases a lot of eyewitness is they're just wrong but you can't blame them in
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this situation because like you said many eyewitnesses that probably came forward afterwards are seeing this
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individual and passing them as they're driving pretty quickly on the freeway well and I think that that's I I'm not
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calling out any of the potential eyewitnesses or especially the man that turned around to try to help prevent
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this from happening what I'm pointing out is that it's simply reported differently and that may it may be due
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to the person that penned the article or typed up the article online or it could
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be that there's varying degrees and as you point out very correctly that you're only seeing this guy very
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briefly so I maybe you it's not it doesn't set up for a good situation to describe what it is what actions you
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think that this unknown was doing prior to being struck by a vehicle now of course it was determined that the cause
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of death unfortunately was injuries from being struck by a vehicle the deant was
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wearing military style camouflage fatigues and work boots okay so here we have our first mystery and what will be
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a long laundry list of mysteries who is this dead man the second is this was a hit and run on a
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state route but neither the vehicle nor the driver have been identified so it would be impossible in 1993 for the
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police to determine was this a horrible accident this poor man was hit and killed and the driver panicked and just
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fled or did the driver intentionally run this man over if so that's a homicide an
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intentional murder well how did this individual get to this part of town yeah so when you are at this scene you're
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responding to the scene the first thing you are looking for is identification you're checking the guy checking the
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fatigues for a wallet hoping to find a state ID a driver's license a paycheck anything in there that may have a name
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on it or an address that is not found on your John Doe and then from there immediately when you don't find that you
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go okay well what what's he doing on a state route first off we need to point out that yaka and Moxy as far as the
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great state of Washington goes this is kind of out in the middle of nowhere so now you're hoping well he had to get
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here somehow I he could have got here by foot right but might not one would think
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the most likely scenario would be that his car broke down somewhere he had car trouble somewhere and he was
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walking maybe going to get gas or maybe going to look for a pay phone or walk to
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a a gas station to try to call a to truck or get some help or whatever they don't find any kind of abandoned vehicle
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or broken down vehicle near where they find this man either and nothing to to suggest how he got to where he was other
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than the boots that he was found in reason why I point out that there were different reports of was he running was
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he walking if he's running you wonder if something else is going on was there a car intentionally chasing him down was
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he fleeing from something but again with no identification no no car belonging to
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him found nearby these are all questions that the detectives that the state patrol are
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simply not going to be able to answer at that time that was 1993 when Moxy John Doe was killed on
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Washington State Route 24 our newspaper reading detective read the news articles
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that we previously discussed in 2003 John Doe was still unidentified 10 years now any good gumo
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will tell you that most often cases are solved with hard shoe leather and a tough sole the Detective Pat dter
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decided to hit the pavement of the information Super Highway the internet the Google online search engine was very
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popular at the time so he thought about doing an extensive search on Google he typed in details about Mox John Doe like
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height weight information that he knew about his unidentified that led him to several
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missing persons websites and databases that were online one included a picture of a man named David Glenn
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Lewis so this was on a site that was posted by the do Network he found some information on the Texas Department of
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Public Safety missing person's Clearing House database as well and as the Seattle PI
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newspaper put it after a week detective ditter had done what expensive law enforcement databases were
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unable to find for 10 years by this point this guy is now armed with a list of possible matches of
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persons who could possibly be his Moxy John do so now he's f focusing in on these different persons that he's pulled
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up that that for one reason or another they are matching up with his description of the John do that they
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have from their jurisdiction the one that he really hones in on is this David Glenn Lewis
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amongst others this one seems to stand out to ditter for one reason or another but we should say this David Glenn Lewis
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is not from the area not even close right and I and I think that you know the the detective has to be thinking
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along those lines that's what's why he's searching Google to begin with he he knows the probability of R John Doe
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being from the area slim to none because we would have we would have identified this guy by now but as you're pointing
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out the he's focusing in on this missing man from Texas David Glenn Lewis who is
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he finds to be very close in height to Moxy John do and he's listed as practically the same weight oddly enough
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he is reported missing roughly only 24 hours or so before Moxy joho is hit by a vehicle on State Route 24 we should note
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here that a lot of reports about The Hit and Run reference a Chevy Camaro either
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spotted in the area some Reports say seen leaving the location where the John Doe was hit so
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maybe it's a Camaro that's responsible for hitting this individual or maybe it was just simply a car that was driving
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the state route at the same time we've never had anybody in a Camaro come forward with additional information
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or saying that they've they've seen anything to add to the story of this John Doe on the highway so let's Circle
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back here because we said Texas so let's circle to the Texas connection if this John
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Doe is d Glenn Lewis how did this guy this unidentified person if it is him how did he get how did this dude get
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the True Crime scary garage Moxy Washington and Amarello Texas so as the crow flies Captain it's
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1,240 miles from amarello to Moxy driving Northwest but that's as the crow flies it's
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1,620 m by car following Interstate 84 following that route so if he got there via vehicle it takes a lot longer
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obviously not just because it's flight versus vehicle but also the miles that are involved driving from amarello to
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Moxy the routes I found is like 23 hours 40 minutes 23 hours 45 minutes somewhere
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in the in that ballpark roughly let's say 23 to 24 hours apart and that we should know would be a Non-Stop drive
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driving that amount of distance you're stopping for gas and unless you have a what do they call it a truck buddy in
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the back of your car you're you're stopping to to urinate as well not me my friend I just pee my pants and if pee in
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your pants is cool and call me Miles Davis flying I couldn't find any non-stop flights from am there is a
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airport in Amarillo I couldn't find any non-stop flights from Amarillo to Seattle which would be I would argue is
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probably the closest commercial airport so the fastest fly time today 30 years later is 6 hours because you you do have
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to make a stop and the same is true if you were to go from Amarillo to Portland Oregon which is these are the two
00:31:41
largest cities nearby where we have commercial airports with commercial airliners we should also note that there
00:31:49
is a time difference though too one thing that aggravates me when we talk about some of these cases that span
00:31:55
across multiple time zones is let's say for instance that they in a particular case that they say oh it was
00:32:02
24 hours between between the time this event happened in Texas and this event happened in Washington well was it 24
00:32:09
hours factoring in the time difference or not we don't get those specifics and we we are handicapped by a lot of times
00:32:18
word of mouth and reports that are out there so it is a two-hour difference going from Texas out west to
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where this John Doe was eventually found in Moxy now from the Seattle PI newspaper ditter noticed that the he
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noticed a resemblance right we already talked about height and weight but there's also a resemblance with the face
00:32:45
of the corpse and the photos that they had in their police file from the yaka area Collision scene from
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1993 but he says you know one thing when he pulled up David Lewis's profile and found him online was that Lewis was
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wearing very distinctive glasses anybody that's ever looked at this case or or people out there right now they're
00:33:11
pumping into the search engine this guy's name the first thing that you will notice that pops up is a a picture of
00:33:18
David Lewis smiling and he is wearing very large glasses would you say there are dmer es glasses I don't think that
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was the look he was going for but yes I would put them in the uh if for for those that they can't look him up at the
00:33:34
moment they're yeah they're large classes that might not be the look he was going for but it's the look that he
00:33:40
gave us and look I hate to say this but it it was hard for me to see past those glasses the first few times I looked at
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pictures of David and that's just that's just a perception thing but so the detective noticed the same thing the
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distinctive glasses eyasses did consulted with an Evidence list of items recovered from the Collision scene
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eyeglasses were among them so in his photos of the deant he doesn't have a man a John Doe wearing eyeglasses so he
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goes to the evidence list and he's he goes boom I hit on something we did find glasses with our John Doe the eyeglasses
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were on the inventory sheet and I guess from my understanding the glasses were found in one of the pockets in the
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clothing that the John Doe was wearing so when he when he looks at these glasses he goes not only does this guy
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look like my John do the eyeglasses that he's wearing look like the glasses that
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we found with the joho and they're distinctive yeah Bingo Boingo got the right guy so dinter retrieves the
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clothing that the dead man was wearing the camouflage military style clothing and the work boots he searches them and
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of course we have we have glasses that that were found amongst these items he says his words well harkham his
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boss's words say that the eyeglasses were identical to the ones worn by David Lewis in the missing person's photos the
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detective thought wow is it a coincidence we got to figure this thing out because again keep in mind the
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distance yeah did learned that Lewis was 39 years old when he disappeared 1600 miles away in Amarello
00:35:30
Texas and that his wife Karen reported him missing a day after he failed to come home the same day roughly that or
00:35:40
not roughly the same day that John Doe was found near Moxy east of yaka yeah I mean let's just Ponder this for a little
00:35:48
bit you're sitting there you're you're in Washington you got a missing person they've been missing for what what do
00:35:54
you say 10 years I think it could be this guy you go to your boss I think it could be this guy because this guy has
00:36:02
some weird looking glasses and guess what we discovered with our John do these weird glasses the glasses match
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and then your boss says to you your the chief says all right well where's he from
00:36:19
Texas he probably said yeah right the chances of this being the same guy are slim to none well and I think what
00:36:28
really underlines that thought is the short amount of time that between him being reported missing and him being
00:36:37
found dead I I don't think it's so much the distance because having him unidentified for 10 years you go well
00:36:43
all right let's dig into this and and we have reported on several cases right where somebody is reported missing by
00:36:51
family friends people that had nothing to do with their demise where they're not reported missing for three days for
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Six Days Seven Days I think we had one case where it was like two weeks so sometimes people are slow to report
00:37:05
because they they're just not aware that the person is missing yeah but here you
00:37:11
go okay well he was reported missing about you know the same days that we find him dead okay well maybe they just
00:37:18
maybe it just went unnoticed for several days nope when you start going through the details of this there is a short
00:37:24
amount of time between he is last seen alive or believed to La be last seen alive in amarella Texas to the time that
00:37:32
he ends up in the middle of State Route 24 in Moxy Washington yeah being hit by a car we'll go through this in short and
00:37:41
then get into some of the detailed information so the short of it is David Lewis's wife left on January 28th for a
00:37:51
shopping trip to Dallas so for our International listeners Texas is a gigantic state it is absolutely huge
00:38:01
that's what she said Amarillo Texas and Dallas Texas they aren't anywhere close to each other at
00:38:08
all they're it's about I I believe it's more than 5 hours driving distance between the two they live in amarell she
00:38:16
goes for this shopping trip in Dallas and she takes the couple's daughter with them she returns on January 31st 3 days
00:38:25
later when she returns her husband David Lewis was gone according to reports the
00:38:31
last time anyone had seen David Lewis alive was at or near his home the day prior January 30th
00:38:41
1993 so just to break this down real quick the short of it is wife and daughter leave on the 28th to go
00:38:50
shopping the last that David is seen alive in Amarello Texas is January 30th 2 Days Later
00:38:58
wife and daughter return the next day on the 31st husband and father David Lewis
00:39:04
is gone he's missing they report him missing February 1st February 1st Moxy John Doe is found dead on State Route 24
00:39:15
in Washington state a whole lot of stuff going on very quickly David Glenn Lewis's
00:39:23
disappearance to me Captain is equally or really I believe even more puzzling than his death I would say they're
00:39:33
equally as puzzling and I'm sorry if I keep on laughing but it's this case is just so bizarre it's a case that you
00:39:43
when you try to apply reason and logic to it it unravels very quickly and so I think that there is a natural reaction
00:39:54
to I think that your laugh is is maybe indicative of some anxiety or a touch of anxiety about the mystery of this case
00:40:04
and what could have happen to this guy in such a short period of time and we're just touching on it so now I want to
00:40:12
point out here Reddit can be a great source at times for these True Crime cases and I know a lot of people like to
00:40:20
go there and and look at True Crime cases there mind you just like tuning into True Crime garage you are
00:40:29
handicapped by the person's delivering the information to you so you can't take it with Reddit with with individuals
00:40:38
posting things you can't take it as fact or as absolute truth just know that I personally
00:40:46
believe that the majority of people posting things are attempting to post the truth but what I find Reddit to be
00:40:52
far greater for is for speculation about the unsolved cases and this a speculation
00:41:00
machine it is and and in regarding this case there is a fountain of speculation about this case on Reddit and from most
00:41:08
of what I have read now this is just what I've read there's a there's a lot to consume and a lot to go through on
00:41:15
Reddit regarding David Glenn Lewis but the the post that I were reading I found to be some pretty interesting and quite
00:41:23
smart speculation so facts a little different there speculation often great so what I
00:41:31
wanted to do here Captain I thought this I I wanted to go through a couple of exercises with this case the first being
00:41:39
I have squared up a news article versus what I think is probably the best post about this case on Reddit well
00:41:49
compare the two and the reason why I wanted to compare the two is the news article is from it's local right okay so
00:41:58
it's local to where David Glenn Lewis went missing from where he and his wife and daughter lived and I want to make
00:42:05
another thing clear the news article is from when he was still missing or unidentified however you want to look at
00:42:11
it they've not connected Lewis to The Moxy John Doe at this time the news article is from August 19th
00:42:19
1993 so 10 years before they identify him just a little more than six months after he vanished
00:42:27
from amarella Texas let's square that up to a Reddit post that is filled with great detail from a poster who uses the
00:42:36
handle honey Bertram who posted extensively and quite thoroughly about the David Lewis
00:42:43
case so I have Cherry Picked from their CH their timeline so we can compare the 1993 article to a post from
00:42:52
2022 the news article was run by the AP and I found it in the Tyler Courier Times out of Texas the headline reads
00:43:02
baffling Trail stumps amarello detectives police have exhausted all leads in their search for missing
00:43:09
attorney it does give us a little bit of background here so the first part gives
00:43:14
us some good background about David Lewis it reads he was a small town quarterback Magna cumladi graduate of
00:43:24
Texas Tech University and a former judge okay so he's an athletic guy he's a smart guy far smarter than yours truly I
00:43:34
won't say anything bad about the captain friends describe David Lewis knows the captain is a dumbass well I don't know
00:43:42
about that but I mean to graduate Magnum K from from Texas Tech from Texas Tech I
00:43:49
ain't no judge friends describ David Lewis as the ultimate nice guy and a family man but the 39-year-old attorney
00:43:57
vanished Super Bowl weekend amid a baffling trail of Clues relatives insist he wouldn't just up and leave police say
00:44:06
they're stumped by conflicting signs Lewis was abducted killed himself or simply walked away from his high-profile
00:44:14
Civic and professional life I do want to quote one of the detectives here as did
00:44:19
the newspaper it says quote I changed my mind a lot on this this is from detective James Smith he says I wake up
00:44:26
at 2 in the morning thinking whatever happened to David Lewis Smith was working full-time on the case since
00:44:33
Karen Lewis that's the wife reported her husband missing February 1st months of investigative leg work has yielded few
00:44:42
tips and no leads is what he tells the newspaper now this is what the police know at the time right months into The
00:44:51
Disappearance Lewis left the law for where he worked this is Buckner l Laura and swindler sorry not swindler that
00:45:00
would be a terrible name for an attorney or a great name Buckner Laura and swindle Law Firm at about noon on
00:45:07
January 28th this is a Thursday so David Lewis tells his co-workers around noon that he's not feel feeling well I I'm
00:45:15
not feeling well I'm going to go home now his credit card statements list that he purchased gasoline using a credit
00:45:24
card that same afternoon that same day Mrs Lewis and 10-year-old daughter their 10-year-old daughter left for a weekend
00:45:32
shopping trip in Dallas so wife and daughter are going off to Dallas they left fairly early in the morning and
00:45:39
from my understanding here Captain David Lewis is getting ready for the day or left early for work that day
00:45:46
he didn't see see them off but we know he was at his job that day up until noon and we know that that
00:45:54
same afternoon even though he wasn't feeling well he stopped and purchased gasoline with his credit card David
00:46:00
Lewis is a very busy man he also teaches a government class at Amarillo College even though he wasn't feeling well he
00:46:09
showed up to teach that class the information I have here Captain states that that class lasted till 10 p.m. on
00:46:18
January 28th so other than him not feeling well and leaving early from work it seems everything is as it should be
00:46:28
up till at least 10 p.m. on that on the night of the 28th right the Reddit poster lists this
00:46:37
on January 28th 1993 David's wife and daughter leave their home in Amarillo Texas and head to Dallas Texas David is
00:46:44
at work at his Law Firm Buckner lore and swindle swindler sorry Swindell you're [ __ ] stupid he tells his co-workers
00:46:52
he's not feeling well he's heading home that afternoon he purchases gas on his credit card and teaches a
00:46:59
government class at Amar College this class ends at 10 p.m. that all lines up the next day so now we're at the 29th
00:47:06
Friday January 29th a church friend from Dumas says which is near by Amarello Texas said she
00:47:16
saw David Lewis rushing through the Southwest Airlines terminal at amaro's airport she says
00:47:28
he's not carrying luggage and a police officer says that on this day they noticed a red Fort
00:47:36
Explorer parked at 10:30 p.m. outside of the Potter County Courts Building okay so couple things here this woman says
00:47:45
that she sees David or somebody that she believes to be David rushing through the
00:47:51
airport at at the Amarillo Airport no lucky specifically the Southwest Airlines terminal which is one probably
00:48:00
the major airline I would guess in Texas I believe they started in Texas and his vehicle his red Ford
00:48:08
Explorer or a red Ford Explorer may not be his is spotted the same day at 10:30 p.m. by a police officer now here here's
00:48:18
one thing that I would note here and I don't know this to be true I'm going to make an assumption here my guess is that
00:48:24
time of day at 5:00 a police officer noting noticing a vehicle parked outside of the County
00:48:32
Courts Building that may have to do with somebody may have had to pay for parking
00:48:37
right and didn't or or a meter had expired or it was the only car in the lot there's a reason here why this
00:48:45
officer noticed this specific red Ford Explorer now what is missing from this newspaper report and also the post the
00:48:54
Reddit poster is we don't have confirmation that the officer wrote down the license plate to confirm that it is
00:49:01
100% David Lewis's vehicle but it's part of the story and it's part that we need
00:49:07
to keep and examine well just to be clear the eyewitness didn't make contact with David so we just have to assume
00:49:17
that she saw a person that she knows correct and then on top of that the the Reddit post is almost identical but with
00:49:27
the additional information that the Potter County courts building is on Filmore Street in
00:49:35
Amarillo now he's an attorney he's a one-time judge it wouldn't be weird to spot his
00:49:44
vehicle outside of the County Courts Building let's go to Saturday now we're at Saturday January
00:49:52
30th someone deposited $5,000 into David Glenn Lewis's bank account weird now we yeah well and when we say
00:50:03
someone that doesn't mean that it wasn't David yeah in fact there's a lot of reports out there that that state that
00:50:09
he deposited this now 1993 and I would I would argue that even on some occasions up to recently or
00:50:19
even to this day depositing money into someone's account you may not have to give a great deal of identification you
00:50:27
you were a banker you were in high Finance there Captain tell how does Finance how does this work
00:50:35
because I I know that personally I have deposited money into someone's account and sometimes they ask me for ID
00:50:42
sometimes they don't because you're right you're you're giving money right no nobody really cares when you're
00:50:47
giving money they want to know who the heck you are when you're taking money out and this was not a withdrawal this
00:50:52
was a deposit well sometimes if somebody's giving money you wouldn't ask for their information if they knew the
00:51:01
information meaning if an individual went into David's bank and said hey I I want to put $5,000 into this account
00:51:09
here's the account number I'm not going to question them you you want to give money to this
00:51:15
individual so I guess that would be my question if I was law enforcement was the deposit slip made out was all the
00:51:24
information filled in that's something during this time period most people did you know cut to 25 30 years later now we
00:51:35
don't fill out the information so much ourselves the teller will do it for us but that's also why they have to ask for
00:51:42
our identification so it's very possible that somebody went in with a deposit slip with the information filled out and
00:51:50
just gave the deposit to the teller if I'm also in law enforcement I'm asking the teller did you recognize them
00:51:56
individual that made this deposit yeah do you remember seeing somebody do you remember who it was even if you can give
00:52:02
a vague description because if the if the banker the teller is certain that it was a woman or that it was an
00:52:09
African-American male or somebody that doesn't look like David at all right then then that's very easy to go okay
00:52:18
that wasn't David and look if if the person $5,000 you think that it would be in check form right that it would be a
00:52:25
check and well that would help our story out quite a bit here but it's not it it
00:52:31
it must have been $5,000 Straight Cash homie because we don't seem to know who did who made this deposit but the thing
00:52:40
we do know is whoever did it David or otherwise the person knew enough information even if it's just simply
00:52:47
knowing that that's his bank be it Bank brand or franchise the person went to the right Branch or the
00:52:55
or maybe not the right br anch but the right Bank to access the account to put a
00:53:01
deposit in there a $5,000 cash deposit not so weird at that time period I would say it would probably throw up some more
00:53:11
red flags in in today's world to have a a large cash deposit as opposed to a check meaning more people carried cash
00:53:21
back then and yeah a lot of people would sell their cars to individuals in cash so $5,000 wouldn't throw any red flags
00:53:32
up from for me but the other question is a lot of these tellers might not know their regular their regulars names but
00:53:42
they would know their look and especially David's look with those goofy ass Jeffrey dmer glasses well the other
00:53:51
thing here too is let's throw this out there and this is why I wanted to square up these this particular Reddit post
00:53:59
with the reports that made it to their way to the newspaper at the time that he was still missing versus the time that
00:54:06
after he was identified as being the man in Washington which if anybody out there
00:54:11
knows zero about this case it is definitive they they they know that that was David that they found there because
00:54:19
of DNA comparison they had saved a tissue sample from that 93 identified case and
00:54:27
later compared it to DNA that they took from David's mother who who uh assisted law enforcement and making the
00:54:37
identification so the Reddit post says January 30th same date that this is the last confirmed
00:54:45
sighting of David but the poster says I couldn't tell you who saw him so the newspaper report States a neighbor saw
00:54:54
Lewis's red Explorer parked at his home on the same day right but never but doesn't say I saw David just that I I
00:55:04
saw his vehicle and I'm assuming it's his vehicle because it's the one he drove all the time and and it was parked
00:55:10
in front of his house and then it's also noted in the newspaper report that the the vehicle that was similar the red
00:55:16
Ford Explorer that was seen prior parked downtown at the courts building was no longer there so we don't know if it's
00:55:25
David that's moving this vehicle around but it's it stands to reason at least we
00:55:31
that the vehicles are one and the same and we don't have definitive proof but we also have nothing saying that they're
00:55:38
not the same vehicle so the poster put $5,000 was deposited into his joint bank account again I can't tell you which
00:55:48
one's more factual maybe the word joint is just left out of the newspaper report
00:55:52
but the joint bank account according to the Reddit poster was shared with his wife
00:55:56
and so that made me wonder you know in in some relationships husband and husband wife
00:56:03
and wife husband and wife you have different persons sometimes have different let's call them jobs right
00:56:11
like you may be the husband may be the one that always goes and does the grocery shopping because maybe he likes
00:56:18
it or maybe he doesn't like it but his wife really hates it other married couples I know I know some friends that
00:56:25
say their wives will tell me joking like he doesn't even know what bank we have you
00:56:31
know and and they're joking obviously but what they mean is like he doesn't go to the bank I go to the bank or I'm the
00:56:37
one that that gets online and pays the bills and so I wondered with this joint bank account were they both actively
00:56:45
participating in deposits and withdrawals inside the bank or was just the wife and maybe the teller or tellers
00:56:53
were clueless what David Glenn Lewis looked like to begin with right so it gets it gets very dicey very quickly now
00:57:02
also if what gets tricky to pull apart here is all of these movements we can only truly say up to
00:57:12
this point that the movements that we've discussed were carried out by David himself on that
00:57:18
Thursday when he went to work went home sick his credit card is the one that fills up the tank for his vehicle the
00:57:27
red Ford Explorer and then later he goes and teaches a government class at amarel
00:57:33
College which ends at 10 p.m. these other movements the sighting at the Southwest Airline terminal we can't say
00:57:42
1,00% that that's David but the the friend believes that it was we the vehicle being parked outside
00:57:49
the Courts Building we can't say 100% 1,00% that that's David's vehicle most people seem to believe that it was
00:57:57
and then we see the vehicle reported by a neighbor as parked at his home on January the 29th the neighbor doesn't
00:58:05
see David so we don't know that it's David that moved that vehicle to the driveway of his home Sunday morning a
00:58:14
sheriff's deputy noticed a man who looked like David Lewis standing across the street from the Courts Building the
00:58:21
officer the deputy says that the man was photographing a red Explorer Ford Explorer
00:58:27
this again parked out front of the Courts Building so if it was David why would David be taking a picture of his
00:58:35
car parked in the same spot that it was was it left there Friday was it moved at
00:58:43
all and why the hell would he be taking pictures of his own vehicle yeah and again the statement is parked out front
00:58:52
or parked parked again out front I I don't know we shouldn't say the same spot but I get what you're you're
00:58:58
getting at it's from from what these reports are this vehicle is either in the same spot or very near where had
00:59:05
been spotted prior this is also the day that Mrs Lewis and their daughter returned and then the Reddit poster says
00:59:14
January 31st David goes missing because remember this is when wife and daughter returned and he's not home yeah but we
00:59:22
again we have no confirmation citing of him since Thursday so to sum this up I know we
00:59:31
went through a bunch of details but to sum this up on Thursday his wife and his daughter leave to go on this shopping
00:59:39
trip to Dallas he's going to stay behind because one he has to work and then two
00:59:46
it's Super Bowl Sunday and the Dallas Cowboys are in the Super Bowl so he's going to stay home and watch that we
00:59:53
have a confirmation citing of him teaching his class Thursday night come Sunday his
01:00:01
wife and daughter return and he's nowhere to be found and like you said we now have it
01:00:08
confirmed through DNA that we know where he ended up at over 1,600 miles away dead because somebody hit him with a car
01:00:19
and we have no evidence of how he got to that road in the first place I told you
01:00:24
it was bizarre you want to get nuts let's get nuts Captain we have more details to go through we have more known
01:00:32
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