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somebody yes please this is an emergency please sent a squad to pierce Butler Ro
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mullenberg Manufacturing Company machine shop P there an ambulance too there's a
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by the what's the address I don't know who are you [Music] this week's True Crime Story starts off
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on December 31 1980 we are going to go to one of the big Twin Cities St Paul Minnesota it's dark out and it's quite
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cold the Minnesota winners are typically cold and the wind can feel almost sharp
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when it hits you so turn up those collar it's also New Year's Eve and there is always a certain level of excitement
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that comes with this evening as many prepare to hit a stop or two and partake in the festivities leading up to and
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just after midnight for some this night can be quite magical or at least filled with much
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anticipation so on this night we have a young woman 20-year-old Karen poto she is a university of Steven Point student
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she's walking alone she has left a New Year's Eve party now this is not such a great idea it it looks like she left the
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party after getting into some kind of argument with the people that she was attending the party with now I am unsure
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of where Karen was heading to but keep in mind she is actually about 3 hours from where she is living at the time
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she's in the big city that night to celebrate the coming holiday and the stroke of midnight and now after an
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argument she's out walking in the cold by herself so we can surmise that she did not have a vehicle with her based
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off of what is about to happen so maybe she was just going to go and blow off some steam but in all likelihood the
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only people that she knew in the big city of St Paul on that night were the people at the party inside of the
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nightclub that she just walked out of a man spots the young woman walk alone in the cold in the dark and offers her a
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ride or at least an opportunity to get into the vehicle and get out of the cold Karen accepts the offer she is picked up
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this is near Pierce Butler Road in Syndicate Avenue intersection in St Paul Minnesota and that was all that the man
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needed was simply to get her into his car now she was going to be his not too long long later this is approximately
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about 3:00 a.m. St Paul 911 emergency services receives a call the caller's voice was
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seemingly male but the voice was in a higher pitch and the caller sounded like he was
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shaking it was obvious to the dispatcher that the male caller likely had either been crying or attempting to disguise
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his voice or possibly both the man was calling to tell them quote there is a girl hurt there she
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needs help and now the caller described the location of where the girl could be found asking for an ambulance the
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dispatcher asked for details about what had happened to the girl and what's the caller's name what is the girl's name
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but the caller with the very strange voice failed to provide much information beyond what we've already
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discussed and again the dispatcher is asking the caller who he is and the caller immediately hangs up the
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phone yeah because if you're the dispatcher you're wondering is this a Good Samaritan that came across a victim
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and is calling for help or is this the attacker yeah and on top of that you want to know as much as you can about
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the person who is hurt as described by the caller you want to know as much about the caller what's the relationship
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like you're saying was he the attacker or is he just trying to help out but also within that call Captain the caller
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is calling because he's requesting assistance and help for this woman he refers to her as a girl but he's
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slightly vague on where the the woman would be found so part of that is probing the caller for additional
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information so you can get the ambulance get the EMTs as close to where this woman can be
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found as soon as possible and as we said he doesn't provide much in the way of detail regarding where she can be found
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exactly so Emergency Services they're going to race to the general location that was provided to them by this
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strange caller with a quick search they located a woman who was very badly beaten and and without going into too
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much detail to describe her as very badly beaten would be a huge understatement most of the injuries were
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to the head and parts of the body but but mostly the head she was unresponsive when they arrived but she's
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still breathing and she was actually barely breathing very faint breathing but she was still alive so Emergency
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Services located what would appear to have been the lifeless body of a young woman this is near a set of train tracks
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running near the mberg machine shop so so this is today and I'm sure back then as well Captain quite a busy area of St
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Paul for folks that live there they will likely know this area the the business is
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mulberg manufacturing this is a business located on Syndicate Street this is an area
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filled with both businesses but it's also quite industrial as well so they find her body near these train
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tracks near the mulberg manufacturing and I'm only repeating that name because it it will play a role or at least I
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believe in this case as we continue going through some of the details here and it would appear
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to the police that not only where we found her is going to be important but they also believe that that's likely
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where the attack went down that she was attacked in the same area where we're finding her her wounds are very severe
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and so I'm sure there's some evidence that blood evidence that this attack happened there yeah so the man who gave
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Karen a ride he drove her to this location the train tracks are behind this manufacturing business he attacked
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her severely even though she is still alive thankfully when help gets there she's still alive there's no way I I'm
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guessing there's no way that that he thought that she was still alive or or or maybe he did and we can we can get
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get into that as we go as well but the descriptions I have seen regarding her lifethreatening injuries there's no way
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that I would have walked away from there thinking she was alive or responding to
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the scene thinking that she was alive when attempting to go and helper somehow really only by the grace of God and with
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the help of some very incredible nurses and doctors at the nearby hospital and don't forget about those First
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Responders that that helped so much as well this poor woman survived the attack I'm very happy to report that she is
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still alive today but we are talking about a very long recovery from very very serious injuries police once they
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are able to speak with Karen because she's unconscious for quite some time So eventually with the assistance of
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medical staff and really trying to help her eventually they will be able to interview her but she's not really able
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to be much in the way of any help or able to provide much information to help lead
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police to her attacker she doesn't know who he was can't really give much in the
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way of details of that evening she gets into a car to get a ride from a stranger so you'd go well they're pretty
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close so she should have got a good look at him but you don't sit down in somebody's car and just stare at them
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you look forward you don't want to be rude or weird the other thing too is and I'm not trying to put any of this on the
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victim because I really believe that the lack of recall that she has here is simply 100% from the injuries we're
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talking about severe head trauma here but it's New Year's Eve right so she's maybe be slightly impaired anyway from
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the drinking yeah and from we know she was at a party but I think what you're hoping for here Captain is like
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something that we've talked about and we discuss regularly in these cases because
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you and I are both intrigued by the investigation The Manhunt how do we find who's responsible what what evidence and
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what strategies can we imply to our investigation to figure out who is the bad guy and how we can take him off of
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the streets and so you're very likely when you when you sit down with her finally after waiting all of this time
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you're going if she can just give us some kind of description of his vehicle maybe that will give us and put
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us on the path to finding to lead police to this attacker who look if we're able
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to catch up with him he is most certainly going to be charged with attempted murder here this is far beyond
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assault yeah if you're law enforcement you're sitting there going okay we have a
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severely beaten victim if I'm law enforcement I'm going this is not just assault to me this is attempted murder
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yeah but we have our victim she got into the car with a stranger okay so before the attack happened do you
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remember what the car looked like again something that could be difficult for the victim because like we said the
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weather wasn't great so a lot of times when the weather's not great and you're walking outside you keep your head down
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it's the way it works so you get in this vehicle you know that you're probably not going to get a great description of
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this individual because of the attack and so then the other question is okay can we get anything to identify the
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the vehicle but is there any other items that we could identify the attacker you know that
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whether that's a a beard or a weird necklace or a tattoo or maybe even a a smell or a
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sound or something that you heard that could help us identify this attacker so the way that this plays out and here's
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here's where I would take the investigation and I'm sure that they probably did every bit of this and
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Beyond you know as we said she does not remember the attack itself and really most of the details leading up to the
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attack so now you're left with a couple of a couple of scenarios one being that she lives 3 hours away she's in she went
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to the big city for the big party for the big night New Year's Eve right yeah and she's there with a couple lady
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friends of hers so you're probably working this case very quickly going well we don't have any of her friends or
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Social Circle beyond the the people that she traveled with to interview because they're not there they're not present
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she's she's in town for them night on top of that you don't you're working this and probably very quickly going to
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summarize that neither of the people she was traveling with had any level of involvement so now you're left with the
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idea of okay what do we got well one of the things we do have is we know that it
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was after midnight that she's picked up roughly 1:00 a.m. so you can go and you can try to interview people that may
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have been in the general area at the time of when she was picked up hoping to get that vehicle description
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but let's talk about the crime scene you know unfortunately our victim's not able
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to help out a whole lot with who the attacker was but also the crime scene was not incredibly helpful as well that
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at the crime scene there is little in the way of evidence for police to work with there's no weapon found and really
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nothing at all left behind by the attacker and the victim can't help because of her horrible injury suffered
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during the attack so that case is going to run out of leads real quick well like
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you were saying she goes there with a group of females but it's very unlikely because we have the victim saying I got
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in the car with a stranger so it's very unlikely that if somebody had it out for
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her in her normal life and her normal Social Circles that somebody followed her all the way into the city so so law
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enforcement is dealing with two big hurdles one the victim doesn't remember most of of what happened that night and
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two we we could surmise that it's a stranger on Stranger attack shortly after the attack like we said there's
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that call there's that 911 call the caller described the location or attempted to describe the location where
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this hurt girl could be found that he says that he hurt or or that that you can easily connect the dots that he
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probably did hurt her being that when asked who he is he hangs up the phone so now really all you're working with is
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this 911 call so you have this 911 call this is a lead for them to track down now they do figure out captain that the
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call came from a pay phone located not terribly far from this crime scene right the recording of the male 911 caller
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with the very strange voice was and I would obviously say that it's him that was the as salent but of course police
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would not at the time be in any way to say with 100% certainty that the caller and the attacker were one and the same
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but that is your only really lead and true lead at the time again it becomes complicated for law enforcement because
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is this somebody that is familiar with the area or is this somebody that doesn't even live close to this area you
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know let let me go far away from my personal location to commit a violent crime and then
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I just think there's a lot of questions with this call why did the why did the attacker call 911 anyways you would
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think that the purpose of the attack was for him to kill her so why would he want
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any chance of her to survive and again he doesn't know what she will remember and what she won't remember right it's
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almost like uh question of is this guy so remorseful right away that he needs to get her
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help and then is this his real voice or is this some kind of Disguise if you take the caller at his word which it's
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going to be incredibly difficult to take him at his word but if you take him at his word that is what it sounds like to
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me that his motivation is to to get the girl that he just attacked some help so right either he's remorse ful like you
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said but also it may just be something of saving his own conscious and soul from having a murder on on his shoulders
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rather than this assault as deadly as it was but if he can if he can get emergency Personnel to her and and save
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her life then maybe in some selfish way he's going to not feel so bad for what he did and I want to hone in on
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something that you were talking about just a second ago with the location and you're spot on there because the you
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know I I spent a good deal of time trolling around on some maps uh of St Paul looking at the location of where
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she was picked up and the location of where she was found and to me being an outsider I've I've never been to the
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Twin Cities but being an outsider it looked to me like one wouldn't have to necessarily be familiar with the area or
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from the area to have chosen this site if I were looking for a secluded location that was somewhat not too far
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away from where I picked her up I think anybody could have really found their way to this spot so really the location
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of where she's found doesn't to me seem to be very helpful for investigators either one of the things that we learned
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from mind Hunter is that they classify these types of killers where they go well this guy's organized or
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disorganized I feel like there's this this strange type of killer you have like a Ted Bundy type where there's
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almost no remorse I have this urge to kill I'm going to kill at will not feel too bad about it afterwards
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almost uh Relish in the joy of talking about the crimes or reliving the crimes in my own mind and then there's other
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killers and I would say like dmer would be a decent example of somebody that had
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these urges knew the urges were bad and just couldn't control the urges and so then when the crime took place I think
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it was a a double-edged sword where there's probably a part of him that enjoyed reliving the fantasy of the
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killing and there was a part of him that the reliving of the killing actually h wanted him does does any of that make
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any sense to you well it makes sense in that I've reviewed the same information I don't you know they call it psycho for
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a reason right and and and so it's hard for us normal guys to really kind of dis
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dissect these individuals even even if you we're talking about one single attack here but it's it's weird right
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like I'm a big I I respect the organized and disorganized classification of attack hackers killers
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serial killers but keep in mind you know eventually Douglas comes out with the idea well that there's a mixed offender
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that is both organized and disorganized so that kind of turns that idea on its head but the other thing you mentioned
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dmer you mentioned Ted Bundy both of those individuals started off very organized and then
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later because they killed for so long undetected and H's case specifically he becomes a frenzy killer yeah after after
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a good period of time and a frenzy Killer By Nature is disorganized he's spiraling completely out of control and
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like dmer said after his second murder which he doesn't even really recall killing the man right he wakes up and
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finds the body so that in a sense is disorganized but he he says well that's when I just decided that uh I'm I'm just
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going to go for it right I I felt remorse for the first two killings that I did but after this I I know who I am
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and I'm going to continue to do this and so he he devolves into a disorganized killer with people escaping from his
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apartment and then and then like we talked about last week with Robert Pickton yeah he his own words to the uh
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the informant to the cop undercover cop that they they put in a jail cell next to him or with him while he awaits trial
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he tells the cop well I killed 49 and I would have killed got to 50 but I got sloppy at the end so I really think that
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all of these guys on a long enough timeline no matter how organized they are they become disorganized the one
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exception would be somebody like a BTK but also keep in mind he really even though he was still unidentified and not
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apprehended at the time he really had stopped killing essentially at that point so maybe he never worked himself
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to the point of becoming disorganized well I think that was part of the fetish for him was the planning and the
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organization getting all the items ready that he was going to take and not take in surveillance the house and I I think
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that's part of what he enjoyed about the whole process but but I think you you you bring up a good point I I don't know
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I guess that's my question is we have some of these killers that seem like they have no remorse at all and then I
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would argue like with with dmer it wasn't so much of like I'm just going to kill people and not feel bad about it I
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think it was more a sense of I'm tired of fighting the urge off so when I have the urge I'm just going to let it happen
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but I still think there was probably some remorse there for him but I think that's like you said there's different
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level levels of psychic but I think that's very fascinating you're absolutely right and that that is
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one thing that makes dmer I wouldn't say oneof a kind but certainly unique yeah is that the the
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pleasure sorry for these terms but I mean we're we're trying to we're trying to Define some of this and and look at
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these and examine some of this we're all adults here the pleasure of killing for
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dmer far outweighed the sadness and remorse that it brought him right and that and that's what I think is so
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fascinating that this and they all talk about it almost all of them talk about there's some kind of sensation there's
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some kind of urge that they feel well and in this case that we're talking about here today from you know New
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Year's Eve New Year's Day 1980 to 1981 with this particular attack or with what little information we have to go on
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I would say in this instance we're probably talking about somebody that is fairly organized just by reviewing what
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limited information we have right like so the our victim here Karen she was not beat with with hands and fist right she
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was beat with a with a with an an object and it was likely a atire iron or crowbar something of that nature a metal
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object because her head was her head was split open the brain was exposed when the responders arrived on the scene and
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so that means that this attacker had the weapon already with him so that falls immediately into the
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organized killer category and the other thing too is the call comes in at roughly 3:00 a.m. remember she's picked
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up at roughly one yeah so there's not a whole lot of time what I'm getting at here is that he picked her up and once
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she was in the car it seems to me it looks to me like he went pretty quickly to this location and and started
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attacking her so that shows some level of planning or forethought in advance yeah because remember the Lauren
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spor case and they they picked up a guy I'm sorry I'm going to be blurry on some
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of these details but when they were studying the surveillance tapes and trying to figure out what happened to
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Lauren spor they found a guy that he was convicted of many crimes before and he was just driving around in a van all
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night and they see his van after night they see his van on surveillance and then when they pick him up and go what
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are you doing you know and he's like this is one of the things I do and I'm not the only person out there doing that
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looking for opportunities maybe they don't take the opportunity but they're driving around looking for that
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opportunity so like you said if this guy's familiar with the location it this guy could be driving this location every
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night for a month so now he knows once I do get a victim in my car I know of several places I could take them so like
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you said there I think that's again a level like you said of uh organization [Music]
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there at the best [Music] price all right we are back cheers mates talk hands in the air cheers to
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everyone cheers to the people in the back now we're going to go we're going to fast forward here a few months to
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late spring early summer when we are going to have a similar and equally bizarre situation
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again this is in St Paul Minnesota so this will put us captain at June 3rd 1981 W
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interestingly to me both of those dates with the previous victim and on this date as well the both of these dates
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that we've discussed are Wednesdays so Wednesday July 3rd 1981 we have 18-year-old Kimberly Compton now
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she's from pepen Wisconsin and I hope I'm saying that correctly now a lot of the sources will say that Kimberly
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Compton was a student but I I know captain that that the young Kimberly Compton had just graduated high school
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and was not yet set up for further schooling instead she had decided that it was time to go off and find a place
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of work for her she had previously held a waitress job for a short period of time she liked working and excelled at
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it but because as she put it there was nothing for her in the very small town actually the village of Pepin population
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890 people she was going to take her talents to the big city the Twin Cities where she was
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sure to find a job her grandfather said that the youngster had proven to be a hard worker and proven to be fine at
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adapting to new surroundings so that was no trouble but what he worried about was
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that Kimberly was far too friendly Kimberly's grandfather Theodore Compton said quote I don't give a damn who it
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was sh stop and talk to them end quote Kimberly ventured off to St Paul Minnesota in 1981 population over
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270,000 people so a very big difference from her small village in Wisconsin now this poor girl just had
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stepped off of the bus had just stepped off of the bus to St Paul when she has the terrible and unfortunate luck of
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crossing paths with the last person on that day in St Paul that any young woman would want to find themselves in the
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company of so Kimberly steps off of the bus getting her into town she rented a locker at the bus depot she put some of
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her belongings in this locker and then she walks across the street from the bus depot to a place called Mickey's Diner
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she was looking to get something to eat after her journey she's going to grab a bite to eat this Mickey's Diner is legit
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Captain it's been there serving up good food since 1960 still around today she sits down and orders that day's Diner
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special she gets her food and during the course of enjoying her meal a man approaches her table and the dude seems
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friendly enough he ask if he can sit down and chat with her she's sitting alone he sits down and they start
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talking she tells him she's very new to town in fact she had just arrived the man offers to drive her around St Paul
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to show her some of the city then without any influence from the victim other than this man's own sad Madness
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once they're out there driving around he attacks her so they're out by this spot
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on the river he took her to a spot on the river and she's sitting by the river this spot where her new city guide chose
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the friendly man from the diner had just taken to taken her to a minute or so prior he starts stabbing her he stabs
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her dozens of times but apparently that was not enough for him he ripped out the
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shoelace from poor Kimberly's shoe and then strangles her with it she was killed right there by the River's Edge
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just a few hours after getting off of the bus in St Paul this time however something must have
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been different because the attacker this time does not immediately call 911 Kim's
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body was discovered by a group of three teenage boys out walking in a wooded area north of
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superia and Onida streets in St Paul they were the ones to report the body now Captain I I apologize because I'm a
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little unclear as to the exact timing of this because it's it's not available in
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some of the reports but sometime after this body was discovered by the teenagers are all around the same time
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this is when a call comes into to police right so police are are at the same time
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being made aware of this this body this homicide and they're responding so having respond they have a little bit of
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detailed information about the crime prior to receiving this call even if it's just minutes so several hours after
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this poor woman is attacked and what would end up being a murder several hours after this murder took place but
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not long enough we we should be very clear not long enough that any of the information had been released to the
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public by the police this is when police get a call from a mail caller with a strangely high
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pitch voice the caller is crying and or attempting to disguise their voice this is now the infamous call that is
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sometimes referred to as the don't talk just listen call as that was the statement that the dispatcher was met
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with when picking up the call a description of this call the short of it Captain is the caller tells the
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dispatcher quote God damn will you find me I just stab somebody with an ice pick
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I can't stop myself I keep killing well like you said because this is a strange voice this has to perk up law
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enforcement's ears the dispatchers ears and go this is very similar to a call that came in just
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couple months ago there's some detail in that right there is a rather important detail offered up by the killer or the
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caller I should say because at the time time after finding Kim's body who was unidentified early in the investigation
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they find this woman they don't know who she is and we'll get into that in a sec
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but at the time police knew that the unidentified victim she had been stabbed 61 times with an unknown sharp
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instrument plus the strangulation with the shoelace see detectives did not know that Kimberly was stabbed with an ice
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pick they knew that she was stabbed with an unknown object but but because of the
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nature of the wounds what they did know was that it was not a knife that was used so the weirdo on the phone answered
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that question for the detectives she was killed with an ice pick and oh by the way as we said the not knowing what she
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was stabbed with that had not been released to the public yet either the police thought the police actually
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thought that it was potentially a screwdriver that had done the damage to the victim but as the killer himself had
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told on the strange phone call it was an ice pick now this is a detail that that
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I rather you know let's try to try to walk away from some of the Gory details that we just
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discussed because this is a detail that I just enjoy finding in these stories this is how the detectives learn the
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identity of the victim so the the victim is Kimberly Compton but I love these little blood hound Gang type shoe
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detective work stories so when they arrive on the scene they have no idea who this victim is and remember we told
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the story of her just stepping off of the bus so she's not even from the area and when they find her she has no
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identification on her what police do find in one of her pockets is a key and that key is to the locker that she
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rented at the bus depot so so they go to the bus depot open up the locker and inside they go
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through her belongings finding her identification there thus being able to identify our victim as 18-year-old
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Kimberly Compton now the police know that the hysterical caller this is not a hoax this is not a
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coincidence the fact that the caller provided valuable unknown information during the
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call would seemed to tell you that this is very very likely our killer the attacker how long does it take for them
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to pick up that this might be the same color as the previous attack that's a very great question here because you
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would think that it wouldn't take long at all police did think that the calls were made by the same person but they
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brought in like experts and paid they hired experts to come in and give their air quote expert opinion on the CA and
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and the opinions kind of come come out with like yeah we're pretty sure it's the same guy but we can't say 100% it's
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the same guy which is really the conclusion that the police had arrived at themselves the other thing too you know
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you have you're really looking from a law enforcement perspective you are investigating the crime that's handed to
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you right so you're in in this case you're you are on the receiving end of a murder investigation a m a homicide is
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the crime in this case Kimberly K with Karen poac that's an assault attempted murder and you it's very easy
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to look at them as one and the same but also keep in mind that that that may go to a different detective so I'm guessing
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like in a lot of the cases that we've talked about when you have a series of crimes series offenses regardless of
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it's murder rape robberies bank robberies what have you that you probably have a divided A
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house divided amongst the police force right where there's some that that believe 100% it's one and the same and
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then others that have their doubts but the weird the strange here is just going to keep getting weirder and stranger
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because two days later right this is two days after the ice pick call the caller
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with the same weird voice calls police once again this time he's calling to say he's
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sorry saying he's sorry for stabbing Kimberly Compton and that he would turn himself in but he doesn't regardless of
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what he says on this phone call so this to me this I this moment here right this
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is a little bit of an aha moment because you're trying to you've you've talked about it already in the first part of
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today's show trying to get into the mind of this attacker who is he what what is
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he up to why is he doing what he's doing so this to me would seem indicative that
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this F on the phone is following the case in the papers well again if he's connected to the first attack you know
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he's probably following the case and what happened to that Victim Because she didn't die so
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while my next victim I can't use the same strategy because I can't leave it to chance that she that this next victim
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will walk away and be able to identify me so he changes his instrument of attack and this is 6 months later right
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between the between the time of the first attack the attempted murder and then this actual
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homicide but what I'm picking up on here in this second call regarding the Kimberly Compton case this is call
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number two in this one single case in the Kimberly Compton case he has now choosing to use her name during this
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call this making me believe that he is following the case on the news and or in the newspapers now knowing her name he's
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using the name during the this call which he did not before in the in the previous call about Kimberly Compton and
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he did not use the name of Karen when he called that one in now of course it's it's possible that through
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discussion that he knew Kimberly Compton's name during the course of talking over you know her dinner at the
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diner and then riding around in car right but this to me is it goes to the psyche of this attacker and is he is
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he look the the calls themselves to me could insinuate that this guy is far beyond driven he's completely off the
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rails insane insane the following of the the news stories about his victim would suggest
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that there is some level of sanity for your attacker here so then the very next day the very next day after call number
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two in the Kimberly Compton case this son of a [ __ ] calls again this time calling to say that some of the details
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in the newspaper accounts were inaccurate huh so now 100% confirmation that he is following the case in the
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news and on the newspapers and then 5 days later another call comes in so now we're at June
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11th this call they hear what law enforcement described as a whimpering barely coherent
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voice that is crying and saying something like I'm sorry for what I did to Compton now remember Kimberly's
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grandfather with whom she had lived with just prior to her death had said that he
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believed Kimberly's overly friendly nature may have helped and made her even more vulnerable or a more vulnerable
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victim but please keep in mind she was only a victim because of this Predator this
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horrible waste of a human that would do such terrible things to a young woman I mean imagine a world without these types
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and how friendly we all would be or we all would want to be Kim's grandfather Theodore Compton added to his comments
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by saying quote I can't for the life of me see why anyone would want to manipulate a girl like that it had to be
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a regular maniac to do a job on her like [Music] that so much more to get to stick around
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for part two and until then be good be kind and don't live [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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