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crime [Music] thank you [Music] sometimes in the True Crime world we see cases where
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sad to say the worst outcome is not totally unexpected some people live a high risk lifestyle
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some people make bad choices we can all probably think of someone in our lives that can fit that bill
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these types can end up as victims and then there is the other side of that coin the sad side
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persons who are victims of abuse or subjected to domestic violence and they too can end up as victims
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make no mistake all of these cases are tragic but once in a while and especially poignant story touches us
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because of the unlikeliness of the victim and the senselessness of the crime and when these cases are unsolved
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they deserve special attention in our story today a diligent intelligent hard-working
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young woman who had her whole life ahead of her was taken by someone who as of yet
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remains unknown this is true crime garage and this is the case of Taylor Robinson
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[Music] thank you Taylor Robinson was born on January 28 1994 to parents Carmella Robinson Rucker
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and Winslow Sanders Jr Taylor was an extremely active teenager in all the right ways listen to this Captain I know
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the both of us played a considerable amount of sports growing up so we are not easily impressed but right now I am
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at her High School Taylor competed in volleyball softball track and field and she was a cheerleader so for sports
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that's year-round baby anyone familiar with this case who has seen photos of this young woman you can tell by her
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smile and the bright look in her eyes she was full of cheer and spirit and not just the kind that is meant to excite
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fans and Inspire her teammate but genuine cheer in spirit that extends to everyone around her
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Taylor graduated from Kenmore high school after studying Child Development now where we are going to pick up this
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story is in 2013 just seven years ago Taylor Robinson is 19 years old and living with her mother carmilla and her
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stepfather Jeff Rucker and her 13 year old brother the family lived in archwood Avenue in Akron Ohio now Akron Ohio is
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one of our larger cities here in the greatest of States Ohio there's about 200 000 people living in Akron proper
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Akron is about 30 miles south of good old Cleveland and the list of notable and famous persons from Akron is very
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impressive two of the more well-known individuals from Akron are LeBron James and stinks Curry both NBA superstars but
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back to our star Taylor now we said this young woman was very active in high school well that Lust For Life did not
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stop there in 2013 she was just a busy young lady taking classes at Kent State University's Stark campus in preparation
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for obtaining her neonatal Nursing degree very important work there Captain yeah that's their biggest satellite
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that's like their satellite University I'm more familiar with the downtown area of Kent so I don't know much about the
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Stark campus on top of her busy College schedule she's also holding down two jobs one was at bonworth's clothing
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store as a sales clerk bonworth is a chain clothing store for the ladies according to their website they have
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been a leader in Mrs clothing for over 50 years Captain so shout out to all of the misses her other job this goes along
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well with her studies this job was as a home health care aide for hands of Care Limited
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this was a position where Taylor would provide in-home care for patients who were incapacitated in some way whether
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because of handicap illness or injury universally the reports about Taylor say that she was basically a model young
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woman she was never in trouble and as we can see she is driven and was hard working
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she had never run away she was close with her family and she was diligent and conscientious about her schoolwork and
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her employment duties she lived at home and always even as a young adult she abided by her curfew and was always in
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touch with her mother she was a homebody Taylor loved animals both real and stuffed she loved shopping
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and going to the movies and she attended church regularly and there was someone new in her life
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she adored her new baby a new family baby that was a six-month-old long-haired chihuahua named Ryder who
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loved to follow Taylor everywhere and tag along whenever Taylor allowed now Captain we have a missing person's case
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to deal with so of course we want to go through the details of when she vanished we have
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already discussed the things going on in this young woman's life leading up to the day in question and now we have a
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very specific window of time to discuss so that brings us to the night of Friday
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May 3rd 2013. Taylor was scheduled to work an overnight shift at the home of a patient
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this meant that she would arrive at the Home in the evening care for the patient overnight and then
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depart in the morning this has been a long-term situation I don't know for certain how long she has
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been in this position but at this location it's been for several months maybe even about a year
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right Taylor's patient needs cared for pretty much around the clock Taylor was dropped off at the patient's
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home by her mother Carmella around 10 pm when Carmella last saw her daughter she
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was wearing gray leggings a white T-shirt a white and black bandana and shoes they said goodbye and agreed that
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Carmella would pick Taylor up when her shift ended this would be around 7 A.M the next morning
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so then Taylor meets with the mother briefly you know a quick check-in most of Taylor's overnight shifts will
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be bookended by one and or two things Carmella dropping Taylor off meeting with the mother then
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a long night shift followed by mother returning home and then Carmella picking Taylor back up in the morning
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this is something that happened dozens of times and the night of May 3rd and going into
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May 4th should have been no different it should have been as they say business as
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usual but it wasn't on the morning of May 4th the homeowner the patient's mother arrived home around
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7 A.M from her overnight shift when she entered the house she found to her surprise that Taylor was not there
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this was cause for immediate concern as the patient needed around-the-clock care
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and was not meant to be left unattended that's the whole purpose of having the caregiver Taylor's position
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there was no sign of the young caregiver now an article in the Akron Beacon Journal which we relied on heavily in
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our research for this episode states that the homeowner found the doors locked when she got home it's unknown
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whether Taylor had a key to this home okay so I've Been Told a call was placed from the mother to
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Taylor's mother I don't know if that call was received or answered this was the mother looking for the
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caregiver right so either Carmella was already aware that something was strange when she arrived or she found out right
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after pulling up to pick up Taylor and then having this discussion with the patient's mother that Taylor
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was nowhere in sight the reports we have say Carmela arrived on location right around 7 15 A.M
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this was very disconcerting she was very alarmed to find that her daughter was not present she told the Beacon Journal
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that her daughter would never ever leave a patient she was responsible for and Taylor's she left behind some
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personal items that were very concerning as well right like what we'll get into that in a bit here because that that is
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something that's a little further down our timeline where would this girl have gone where would this young woman have
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gone so the alarm was raised Taylor's mother and stepfather there on alert but that whole
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day Taylor never showed up at home at all she never called home she didn't call her overnight job to give any
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reason for why she left and as we already said Taylor was a hard-working individual she valued that
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job and she loved and respected her own mother but for Taylor's family this is going to
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go from bizarre and worry to extremely concerned and frightening very quickly no like you said she's a caregiver and
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so by her leaving on our own accord she's putting somebody at risk and if this person needs 24-hour assistance you
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might put in this person at risk to uh at fatal risk correct correct so where they get extremely concerned
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is when the the the parents the worry starts to mount with every passing minute every passing hour but we also
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have another situation where Taylor was scheduled to work at Bond Worth clothing
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on the afternoon of the fourth this is really going to be the acid test here she was missing but if all else
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failed if for some reason Taylor was just you know maybe up to something or if for
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some reason she could not call home everybody expected she would at the very least arrive as scheduled for her shift
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at bonworth right but she did not and again she's pretty young so you know you go okay well this doesn't make any sense
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she doesn't seem like the type of person to just walk away from her job walk away
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from a patient that would need her care again she's pretty young so it's possible that she made a mistake or
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possibly she was being irresponsible well isn't that just it I mean even you take somebody as responsible as this
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young woman Taylor Robinson and you look at her life and all of her hard work and
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how diligent she was about all of her activities and responsibilities but then you go okay we didn't expect
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any of this but she's she's 19. yeah now Taylor never clocked in for her job that
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Saturday afternoon it was at this time when Carmella and the family decided hey we've we've got to go
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to the police now the Akron Police Department responded and from everything I have seen
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the Akron PD took this case very seriously from the outset immediately announcing and treating
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Taylor's disappearance as quote suspicious this makes total sense right of course
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Taylor is an adult free to go off on her own if she should wish it is her right to pick up and take life elsewhere
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but that just does not make much sense we talked just this last week on off the Record about the Long Island serial
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killer investigation out in New York and how that case is moving forward and thankfully in the right direction after
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so much time has passed it sat there stagnant for for years really but just earlier this year
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after processing and evaluating DNA samples remains belonging to someone only known as Manorville Jane Doe just
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one of several murder victims in the Long Island serial killer case she was finally positively identified as
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Valerie Mack from Philadelphia anyone that wants to learn more about that get our show off the record on
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Stitcher premium or go to the website dedicated to that investigation that's gilgunews.com you can submit tips there
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as well by the way especially if you have any information regarding Valerie Mack but what we did what we talked
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about on that episode captain of off the Record was we talked about how victimology is the foundation of any
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investigation and now the investigators finally know the identity of one of these victims in that case they have a
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completely new starting point for their investigation dramatically increasing their chances of catching this killer in
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our case here Captain we have obviously we obviously know who our victim is in fact we know just about everything we
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need to know not everything but a lot right Taylor is close to her family she tells
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them what's going on in her life Taylor is busy she has a busy active lifestyle and she's attending college she's
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working two jobs so not only is she busy but the things in her life that are keeping her busy well those things we
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mentioned that are all taking up the majority of her time they all come with time stamps on them
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so she's busy and her time is easily accounted for and it's easy to figure who would be the people in the circles of
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her life in the circles from work and her Social Circles uh from school and we have school records we have work records
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we can figure out likely who is in and out of her life outside of school and work we can get this information from
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her family because she is close to them and what we can't get from the family we
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can get from Friends so Taylor knowing who our victim is looking at the victimology here Captain we know Taylor
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was a bright and genuinely good young woman moving forward in this world this most likely means that most of her
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friends will be cut from the same cloth if you will now remember when profiling we are going
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to attempt to profile everything our victim the crime the location and finally our unknown offender
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starting with our victimology we can tell you by everything we know about Taylor that she was living a low
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risk lifestyle meaning she's not frequenting places known for high crime or violent crime and she is not hanging
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out with bad people and not making poor choices so knowing this this dramatically
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increases the likelihood that Taylor was either targeted or the abduction that took place that
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night was the result of another crime or something else that happened or something that was going on in
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Taylor's world we are very likely looking for someone in one of Taylor's direct circles
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so now you are looking for two things in our missing person's investigation and trying to determine what happened to
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this young woman you're hoping to find one or the other or both I guess because that is going to be where you pick up
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the breadcrumb trail leading you to Taylor and her whereabouts or her abductor and evidence of what happened
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and possibly why you're looking for who had the means motive and opportunity to take her
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meaning someone had a reason for targeting Taylor and the ability to carry out the crime or looking for
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something that happened in her life that would later trigger this abduction and set the crime into motion
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who was involved in that event likely would be involved in this event so what is the event and or who would
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Target her the problem with deciphering which event may have led to Taylor having gone
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missing would be fairly easy to identify amongst all of the other events going on
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in her world because everything with her is work in school and working toward her
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goals so this event this it would likely Stand Out amongst the backdrop of the rest of the events going on in her life
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but by the same time you are hoping that someone one of the many very good persons in
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Taylor's life is aware of this event but here's the troubling thing often something so powerful that would
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cause someone to have the reaction of abduction or even possibly worse well often one does not sit around and wait
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to react because this very likely is just that some type of hurtful aggression reaction and often that means
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that the event that set this type of terrible reaction into motion likely went down a short period of time
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before whatever happened to to Taylor and unfortunately that could be just minutes or even seconds before she went
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missing so now we have to look into her life and look into what was possibly even going
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on that night that led to this young woman having Gone Missing while we are thinking through the scenarios of either
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Taylor left work for some yet unknown reason and never returned or someone forcibly removing her from her work
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either way I would say hope is fleeting and we say this because based on our victimology we can say with almost 100
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certainty that this young woman did not just take off and leave her family high and dry
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so again we're back to square one someone took Taylor but who and why [Music] [Music]
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[Music] thank you all right cheers mates welcome back so a couple questions I have or what I
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think investigators need to look into is who from her work would know that she was there and and know that she was
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supposed to stay overnight also knowing that she doesn't have a ride of her own or doesn't use a right of her own when
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she's working overnight to me that's a safety hazard because you have no way to go get help there's no
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way for you to flee so where would she go on flip possibly and then I also want to
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know what is her social media activity is she on Instagram is she on Facebook is she on Facebook Messenger is she
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talking with individuals through social media is she on any uh dating websites like Tinder or
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or any of these other dating websites and talking to any individuals through that these are all excellent questions I
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from my understanding of Taylor's work in particular the job where she went missing from
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is this would be kind of a small small staff let's say right so we only need one caregiver for when the mother
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of the patient is not at home but again this patient needs Around the Clock care from my understanding so
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there would be other nurses not just Taylor or other caregivers whatever you want whatever title you choose to use
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right because I I can imagine that Taylor is probably not covering five nights a week
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but again what I understand of this situation is that she would be working alone and as you said okay well if
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there's a situation where she has to leave or flee I don't think that's ideal that they're you know of course it's
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never ideal that there would be a situation that she would need to leave or flee but again the whole purpose of
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her being there is to care for this other person right so if you can't take this other person with you then you're
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right but what I'm wondering is the work structure because a lot of these uh you
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know the family calls a service that service you know that person that runs that service might not be a nurse
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themselves but has all these connections to these at home caregivers and so who is her boss who
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did the scheduling uh because one of the things that you have to look at and especially a case like this or with with
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a a female like Taylor is that keyword female there's always a possible motive because she's female sometimes you write
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sometimes ladies are targeted just because they're ladies right and you're pointing out several good things here
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who would somebody know that she is there alone right that night and that's what I
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think we will really get into and that's where we're going to see some good potential suspects along the way in
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regards to the situation with her her mother Taylor's mother Carmella it's my understanding that most of the
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time her mother dropped her off and picked her up but there would be the rare occasion where Taylor would borrow
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the vehicle and drive herself to and from so I think it happened a few different ways but
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what we have here now Captain is we have a 19 year old woman who's gone missing from her work
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we now have Akron Police Department involved they have already publicly announced that they find The
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Disappearance of Taylor Robinson to be highly suspicious and they are investigating it as such so again
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they're taking this case serious right from the get one plus you could have all these suspects in that area as well
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because if you would know that this individual I cannot take care of themselves you'd
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be seeing nurses come in in every day and so if you had a predator if you had uh some sicko in the neighborhood the
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old pervert round Roundup right that this person is going to be well aware that there's different females
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attractive females coming into uh take care of this individual and again they're basically alone now right so
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there's no protection there we also of course have Taylor's family and friends and people at her work and you know all
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involved looking for Taylor and actively seeking information about her whereabouts while this is all going on
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while this case is still fresh and still new something totally unpredictable happened
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Taylor Robinson went missing during the night and early morning hours of May 3rd
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and May 4th but then just two days later from a neighborhood in Cleveland remember Cleveland is not terribly far
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from the Akron area and from where Taylor was working where she was working we should also
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point out is located right by the freeway so just two days later a 9-1-1 call sends police out on what can only
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be described as a dramatic call to the Tremont neighborhood in Cleveland this is from the Journal Tribune out of
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Cleveland the Associated Press was reporting the 9-1-1 call the woman caller her voice was frantic and
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breathless and she was choking back tears the woman caller said help me I'm Amanda Berry I've been kidnapped and
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I've been missing for 10 years and I'm here I'm free now who is Amanda Berry she is a 27 year old
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woman who disappeared at the age of 16 in April of 2003. Amanda Berry was working at Burger King she left her job
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at the end of her shift to go home she never made it home a man named Charles Ramsey
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said he was sitting in his house eating McDonald's I don't know why it feels like every single week Captain
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McDonald's finds its way onto the show it really should be a sponsor then right I think it's part of their marketing
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plan you know let's Bilk the garage out of thousands of dollars of advertising and just sneak into these these stories
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somehow so Charles is sitting in his home eating and he says he hears screaming he runs outside and
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at his neighbor's house he sees quote this is his words I see this girl going nuts trying to get out of the house
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he said she was trying desperately to get outside and pleading for help to reach the police the door that the woman
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was trying to get out of would only open wide enough for her to stick her hand out wow so he's just seen her hand mid
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McDonald's yeah mid McDonald's he's like screaming and then he runs outside he sees this you know just a hand coming
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out of this screen door and some woman yelling saying call the police call the police
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um so he decides he's like hey I'm helping this person right so he decides to sit
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down and finish his meal well he ran over he started kicking out the bottom of the door meanwhile a woman sitting on
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her porch nearby with some friends says she hears the commotion and runs over to
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see if she could help the woman is now freed and she tells the so the woman that ran
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over her name is Anna the woman that's now freed she tells Anna that she is Amanda Berry and Anna
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the responding woman says this woman claimed to be Amanda Berry she was visibly nervous and she was
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crying she was wearing pajamas and sandals but Anna says I told the young woman you're not Amanda Berry Amanda
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Berry is dead the woman then again told Anna I am a man to bury I have been kidnapped and
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was being held captive Anna gave her the telephone at that point and the recorded 9-1-1 call
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this woman declared I'm Amanda Berry I've been on the news for the last 10 years she said she had been taken by
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someone and begged for police officers to come to the home before the man returned those words LED police to a
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house near downtown Cleveland where Amanda Berry and two other women were found Taylor's mother
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Taylor Robinson her daughter's missing has been missing for about two days she watched the breaking news on her TV as
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she and others were busy putting together missing persons flyers for her daughter yeah now none of the women
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found and recovered that evening were Taylor the three were identified as a man of
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Barry Gina De Jesus and Michelle Knight all three vanished a decade earlier they
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had been kidnapped and held captive for all this time soon after the rescue police arrested
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52-year-old homeowner Ariel Castro police also found a six-year-old child piece of [ __ ] I mean this guy's a piece
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of [ __ ] one of the women gave birth during their time in captivity Castro eventually pled guilty to
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this is this is a high number here Captain so get ready Castro eventually pled guilty to
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937 counts of rape kidnapping and aggravated murder he was sentenced to life in prison plus
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1 000 years with no possibility of parole the rescue of these victims brought much
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needed rejoicing to the streets and neighborhoods of Cleveland it also brought hope to Taylor Robinson's family
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and to that Community as well of course we want to know where Taylor is where her whereabouts are but in the
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investigation the who took her question is one that investigators will be working on but almost as important is
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the why why would someone take her one real scary reality in this case and in a lot of cases
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is human trafficking yeah now I love my home state of Ohio but unfortunately we do not have great numbers here regarding
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human trafficking in fact according to the Ohio Department of Health at one time Ohio ranked as high as fifth
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fifth out of 50 states in the U.S well technically this this crime with Castro I mean it's technically
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form of human trafficking right I mean it's not just kidnapping well yeah or or is it just kidnapping
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well essentially I mean they he he abducted these they were Girls when they were abducted and then they grew up to
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be women but he abducted these girls and held him captive and basically made them
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sex slaves during this time and so I mean you can see the state came down really hard on him as they should I
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mean his his crimes are I I just of the most despicable nature um but again you started chopping off all these dudes
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peepees right like you get you rape a girl with chop your PP off you think that would stop any of this nonsense
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well but then you have the situation did they if do they get it wrong do they get
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a wrong full conviction you can't go back on that so well then he's just missing his pee pee
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but maybe we need less PPS in this world so let's go back to to these numbers here Captain let's work our way through
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this so okay Ohio according to the Ohio Department of Health at one time Ohio ranked as high
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as fifth out of 50 states in the U.S with some of the highest statistics coming out of Toledo Cleveland and the
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Akron area so the city of Akron has seen its share of arrest in regards to human
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trafficking crimes obviously but in fact Summit County had some pretty big bust there this year in January so
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the stats in Ohio and Akron they're not good but this is where we go back to victimology our victimology here
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with Taylor is quite different than a substantial chunk of the cases we are seeing in
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human trafficking cases especially in that area so again Taylor would still be very much of a low risk victim for this
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type of crime but as we know from having been doing the show for so long no one is ever truly excluded from being a
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possible victim of really any crime now that we are armed with the hope that came out of Cleveland with the
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rescue of three kidnapped victims but also the threat and fears of what might have happened to our young female adult
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victim let's see what we can find from the actual investigation yeah but for me it's strange because when I see a
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scenario like this what hope you found some people that might not be connected to your daughter's case at all I don't
00:37:55
get what the hope is if anything it's pointing out how messed up this world is and how sick
00:38:02
individuals are out there but you got to keep in mind the desperation of of the of the other victims of the family
00:38:09
members and the friends of people who have gone missing well maybe this is glass half full glass half empty oh it's
00:38:16
a pessimist but it's I I see stuff like this and go oh and and by the way my daughter's missing oh well if there's
00:38:25
what hope do we have there's when you got sickos like this guy out there but that's why through in the reaction of
00:38:34
Anna one of the neighbors responding to the commotion where she's told by this woman who is freed from the house says
00:38:43
I'm Amanda Berry and her initial reaction is no you're not Amanda Barry's dead right
00:38:50
that's that's what I mean by hope is that the the all of the other victims the family members the friends of these
00:38:58
Missing Persons of people that they one day they had to come to the sad realization of waking up one day and and
00:39:06
going okay maybe they're never coming back okay maybe they're not still alive but then you see something like this
00:39:16
where a whole Community you don't move on but a whole Community just accepted the fact that these three women were
00:39:24
probably dead or are dead right and then this again something totally unpredictable
00:39:29
boom one day all of a sudden that's not the case that they are still around and and thankfully they've gone on to to be
00:39:37
able to live get relationships back with their families and have families of their own so you want to talk about go
00:39:44
time though too I mean to to hear the the screams or to hear her yelling from that house
00:39:55
because there's probably I mean you said she was missing for how many years 10 10 years there's probably
00:40:04
I don't know let's say a hundred times that there was a possibility that she could have got free or
00:40:12
maybe a thousand times of okay we know his schedule so we're gonna try to break loose or whatever it is
00:40:18
and now you're you have this moment where the door is cracked or something your hand you got your hand
00:40:24
your hand is in the land of Freedom right and you're screaming for help but if he came home if Castro came home
00:40:33
at that moment I know but what I'm saying is for that neighbor to hear that and um
00:40:38
and we want to talk about go time you know a moment of I what kind of person are you deep down and how fast you you
00:40:48
react and and because you also don't know what's on the other side of that door I mean you obviously probably know your
00:40:56
neighbor enough to know that there there shouldn't be some girl screaming but I'm
00:41:00
just saying like you don't know if he's there well and it's a day that uh nobody in
00:41:08
that area has forgotten um and it it will remain that way for a very very long time
00:41:15
so in regards to this investigation about Taylor Robinson's case and the knight in question we do have some
00:41:23
information that didn't come out immediately so according to the Beacon Journal Akron police detectives have
00:41:30
pledged to make the case a top priority to that end 38 officers and detectives spent days scouring the area around the
00:41:41
location of Taylor Taylor's shift on the knight in question some of this time was devoted to
00:41:48
scrutinizing abandoned homes garages and anywhere else in the largely residential
00:41:55
neighborhood where the young woman could be further the FBI provided four agents to
00:42:02
assist in the investigation from the Third Day on the investigation looked into Taylor's
00:42:09
friends and associates they feel the tips followed up on leads and basically did all of the usual investigative
00:42:17
things meanwhile the family handed out flyers and searched the streets looking for any
00:42:24
sign of Taylor 's stepdad seems to have taken on a significant role in looking for her he
00:42:33
spoke at rallies and vigils and was instrumental in handing out flyers I do I'm going to throw this out there as a
00:42:41
bit of an aside so we can kind of just move on from it there are some things about this investigation that I am aware
00:42:48
of and that I'm not allowed to clarify or go into detail of one thing that I have seen in
00:42:56
some areas is is a question would the stepfather has he ever been a suspect or looked at by police right if he ever was
00:43:04
looked at as a person of interest it has never been mentioned in any newspapers at all and from everything that I see
00:43:12
again he's up front and he's helping lead the investigation he was even though he's her stepfather he was very
00:43:21
much in the role of her father of her actual father right and there's no reason to believe that anything
00:43:28
anything strange or he had any type of involvement other than helping in the search for for Taylor so this is
00:43:36
not a situation it's very difficult though I mean anybody when when a family member or a friend
00:43:44
goes missing anybody can then become a suspect it's I think a really hard thing for people to deal with but most people
00:43:51
realize that that's a possibility and if you're looked at it as being a suspect I
00:43:56
mean you could even say well look her mother dropped her off so therefore her mother becomes some somewhat of a
00:44:03
suspect but you know just you got to let law enforcement you gotta let the detectives
00:44:09
um you know roll you out so they can go on to exactly better better suspects and
00:44:15
better ideas that's exactly right and you have fathers it's it's not uncommon for a father to be
00:44:22
looked at within the first hours or days of an investigation and just as you said
00:44:30
that's a that's a sucky situation to be in it's a horrible situation to be in but
00:44:38
where it goes best you have you have the police department that very clearly is taking this disappearance very seriously
00:44:47
and when you observe that as a parent you go okay take your look at me I'll tell you
00:44:52
anything you need to know so you can move on to a real suspect and here's no problems looking at me
00:45:00
now Taylor's mother found hope she was vocal about this found Hope in the news about Ariel
00:45:06
Castro's kidnapping victims being found alive in Cleveland on May 6th but on that same date and an article in
00:45:15
the Beacon Journal Akron detective Brian Harding said in regards to Taylor's disappearance
00:45:22
that it was totally out of character for Taylor and she had zero history of trouble adding the quote
00:45:32
we are at a dead end while in this case be in 2013 we know that people are very connected to their phones that's what
00:45:42
brought up the questions in my mind of what information could we find out about her phone right and so with her
00:45:51
situation with her work situation one would think that that phone is not just for her for her use but it's also her
00:45:58
Lifeline should she need something sorry I just knocked a bunch of stuff over should she need something during
00:46:05
the course of her shift or if her patient the person that she's taken care of requires anything other than what
00:46:11
Taylor is able to provide then that phone is really truly a Lifeline so so here are some Clues Captain this
00:46:21
information was not reported right away but there was information gleaned from Taylor's cell phone we need to mention
00:46:29
two Taylor's phone was not found at her place of work she's missing the phone's missing Reports say that this phone was
00:46:38
shut off shortly after 7 30 a.m on Saturday now we know that Taylor's mother arrived
00:46:46
at the patient's house to collect Taylor around 7 15. presumably after finding Taylor missing she called her daughter's
00:46:55
phone however it is not stated in any reports that I could find what happened when she called did the
00:47:03
phone ring the reports all say that it was shut off right around 7 30 so presumably it may have rang when
00:47:10
Carmella called but she was never able to get a hold of Taylor all right there was other information on the phone as
00:47:19
well and I believe this information is very likely evidence it's evidence that could shrink the window of time a bit in
00:47:27
this investigation narrowing the gap between the start and the end of Taylor shift to hopefully point out where we
00:47:36
can say okay we know what time she started work we know what time it was supposed to end she went missing during
00:47:41
the middle sometime during the shift right we want to shrink that window a little bit and be able to go okay
00:47:47
sometime between here and here is when we believe that something happened to this young woman
00:47:56
Taylor's phone had been used on the night of May 3rd to interact with some people she knew
00:48:03
here's what we know an ex-boyfriend whom Taylor dated up until recently called her cell phone
00:48:11
late Friday night that call by reports lasted two minutes now the exact time of this call has
00:48:23
never been published but to me when I see those reports in the newspaper that say late Friday night
00:48:30
obviously we're looking at before midnight before the Midnight Hour of her shift right I did some digging and I've
00:48:37
spoke to some people close to this investigation and just flat out asked do we know what time or can somebody
00:48:44
tell me what time that call took place and I was told a very specific time that that phone call was at 10 16 pm
00:48:54
so shortly after her shift began now pay close attention here Taylor or someone this is other
00:49:03
information regarding her phone Taylor or someone using Taylor's phone texted a friend at about 5 a.m on the
00:49:13
morning of the fourth reports only state that this text made vague reference to seeking a favor from
00:49:22
a friend this text received no response we don't know anything more about that text but it's a text that you you say is
00:49:35
um seeking a response about a favor to a friend correct okay that that the reports of
00:49:43
this text are that we don't know if this text is coming from Taylor's phone and asking for help or asking for a favor or
00:49:53
if somebody is texting and saying I need a ride hey I need a ride or or you owe me a favor or I can help you
00:50:01
with this I don't know in regards to the relationship of who was going to be you know handing out the favor or asking
00:50:09
for a favor or what but the information we have is that Taylor and I think that that's that's the key to this bit of
00:50:17
information here that comes out Taylor or someone using Taylor's phone texted a friend at about 5 a.m on the
00:50:26
morning of the fourth so we know that she answered her phone at 10 16 and had a two-minute phone call
00:50:34
right and the reports are Taylor or somebody using her phone sent out a text around 5 a.m that gives
00:50:43
us a time frame of less than seven hours it shrinks it a bit we were looking at a
00:50:49
a time frame of roughly nine hours and now we've got that under seven hours to be concerned with now this next portion
00:50:58
will further bolster the shared theory that Taylor did not walk away to go off somewhere this bit of info was held back
00:51:08
initially but was released to the public eventually and this is very important here captain
00:51:15
the reports were that Taylor's jacket and shoes were found at her place of work after she went missing
00:51:23
there is no indication from the reports put out there that police found blood hair or really any sign of a struggle at
00:51:31
her work there's no indication that investigators found any evidence of forced entry at her work
00:51:38
nothing to the doors nothing to the windows I'm just wondering if she brought a pair of shoes
00:51:46
an additional pair of shoes well the ones that she was wearing yeah it might be a leap but I I know with some nurses
00:51:53
that they like to wear certain shoes while they work so maybe they would bring a pair with
00:52:01
her but we have one thing here that you don't have in most investigations in regards especially to we we have the
00:52:09
eyewitness that dropped her off we have her mother saying hey she didn't bring a
00:52:13
pair of shoes right this this is what she was wearing this is what she brought with her to
00:52:18
yeah but jacket being there that don't bother me people will leave all the time without the jacket but you're gonna
00:52:24
leave without your shoes and that's exactly what her mother pointed out that terrified her the most when she
00:52:31
figured out what was going on because keep in mind she knows the public though they don't know that there was a coat in
00:52:39
a and shoes left at the scene that we don't find this out until much later right but her mother immediately knows I
00:52:47
dropped her off yeah she left her jacket there no big deal like you said people I was I went to a friend's house just a
00:52:55
week ago and left a jacket there but people don't leave without their shoes right
00:53:01
yeah you don't make it home and go Hey where's my shoes oh shoot I left my shoes at my friend's house again well
00:53:07
and I have sensitive feet I can't be walking around on the concrete with my sensitive feet
00:53:13
this is not going to happen well in the thing here too we we got the evidence that
00:53:19
that she left some things at her work her personal items those were the personal items that were referenced
00:53:25
earlier we also have the report stating there was no forced entry found to the work well no force entry and we also
00:53:36
believed that the doors were locked they were found locked according to the reports after she's found to be missing
00:53:43
right so no forced entry to the doors no forced entry right but so Windows right
00:53:48
so to just Ponder this I mean even if a friend is pulled up and you're going to go talk to him
00:53:54
one why would you lock the doors why would you walk out there with no shoes this doesn't make a lot of sense right
00:54:01
and that's what I'm pointing out that this information is going to leave us really with fewer and fewer possible
00:54:07
working theories to to further this investigation Captain it's looking like one of the
00:54:15
following theories would work and I'll start with the least likely and work my way through
00:54:22
either someone this could be a stranger or maybe even someone she knew grabbed her from the porch or outside but still
00:54:32
on the property of her work while she just so happened to be outside with no jacket no shoes
00:54:40
and then Taylor puts up so little of a struggle that there was no evidence of an attack outside and no eyewitnesses or
00:54:48
better yet ear Witnesses this seems highly unlikely given the very low probability factors for that to all come
00:54:58
together or maybe we have someone who was targeting Taylor and knew that at her place of work Taylor would basically be
00:55:07
alone and in a state of vulnerability and if it were a stranger perhaps using a ruse of some sort convinced Taylor to
00:55:15
open the door or maybe even let him in or it's someone she knows and she willingly
00:55:23
opens the door or lets this person in I think given everything we have gone over I would be shocked if anyone by
00:55:32
this point is leaning toward the idea of an offender unknown to our victim and given that we have no ear witnesses
00:55:40
to screams or a struggle outside we are very likely looking at a scenario where Taylor opened the door and let someone
00:55:49
into her work and something happened inside that resulted in this person taking Taylor
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