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[Music] Friday August 18th 2006 this is where we left off on our Brandy Hall timeline
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Brandy Hall has not been seen since roughly this day or the end of the day prior keep in mind we have a situation
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where we have an officer who calls in that she sees a vehicle that matches Brandy Hall's vehicle description with a
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person sitting in the driver's seat that matches Brandy Hall's description so I think that it's easy for a lot of us to
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agree that at roughly just before midnight on August 17th 2006 Brandy Hall is sitting in her truck
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behind the Home Depot with someone in the passenger seat yeah what's going to happen the following day is that her
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husband Jeffrey Hall is going to be sentenced to 18 months in prison and 42 months of probation on those drug
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charges now curious to everyone Brandy never shows up for the sentencing she said that she was going to be there and
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I understand that she's having an affair and that she's running around on her husband but it also sounds like she did
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care for this man yes this is the father of her children she did have concerns for him and she also wanted him for many
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reasons mainly the children to not have to be in prison any longer than necessary yeah and I hate to State the
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obvious but that's why they call me the captain Captain Obvious it's not just about her not
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showing up to the courthouse it's that she has kids that she will be responsible solely responsible because
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her husband is going to be sentenced and hauled off to jail yep and she's nowhere
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to be found well and this is going to really get more and more concerning to Jeff H PA and others as time drags on so
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remember the previous evening he finds out late at night he gets a call from his attorney hey your sentencing hearing
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is going to be earlier in the day tomorrow than we had once we told he tries several times to get a hold of his
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wife that night to make her aware that this sentencing hearing is going to be earlier in the day unsuccessful can
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never get a hold of her she never picks up the phone never responds he becomes increasingly
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concerned and worried when he wakes up the next morning again she's not home he's trying to get a hold of her we got
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these two kids here I got to go to court you don't want to take your kids to court and from my understanding Captain
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the kids would have had uh I apologize I think that I said earlier that the kids
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would have had school the next day I actually believe this would have taken place before the school year started and
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I have in my notes here that Jeff Hall says that he left early for the sentencing hearing so that he could drop
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his kids off with a either a family member or a friend so he drops off the kids they're young the oldest one is 10
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at this time he goes off to the sentencing hearing he can't get a hold of his wife he also leaves a note at
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home explaining that the hearing is going to be earlier than they once thought in case she were to come home
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now we're going to go from a seven or an eight on the scary scale to about a 10 really quickly this happens around
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noon Captain a gentleman named Donald Watson so he's the head of grounds maintenance for all of The Bard
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Community College properties now Eastern Florida State College he is fishing over on College property
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his fishing line snags what turns out to be some bunker gear of a firefighter so this would be a
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large pond that he's fishing in he snags this gear he he grabs it and he decides to
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take it over to the Palm Bay Fire Department which has a station right there on San
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filipo so it's just like two 300 yard north of where he is he walks into the fire station says
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hey look what I found yeah what this is going to lead to is Brandy Hall's firefighting gear it's it's her gear and
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her truck are found in the Palm Bay Pond this is April 18th she's last seen leaving the
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firhouse Late just before you know 11:00 p.m. on April 17th a police officer believes that she
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saw her with another person in her truck around midnight this is 12 hours later m a lot
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I if if she was met with Foul Play or disappeared and decided to put her truck in that pond or somebody else put it in
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there A lot has happened in this short 12-hour period now what is found here Captain a significant amount of blood is
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found in bry's truck and many believe that this is enough to indicate that Brandy did meet with Foul Play So when
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the truck is finally pulled from the pond the crime scene folks find Blood on the driver side map pocket and just
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under the steering wheel what makes the blood find even more interesting is that
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the windows of the truck had been left open and the cab filled with water this so this is a weird situation right he
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snags this Gear in from my understanding believes that that he can see that it's
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a shallow Pond I believe that it's at its deepest depths is just 20 feet deep and I think he can see what he
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believes to be some type of vehicle in the water in fact what they did was they they did a fly over with a helicopter
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and could clearly see that there was a vehicle in the water and they so they decid to pull it out of there now I got
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a couple conflicting reports here here so I want to make sure that I go through the details of both now the conflicting
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reports are one report states that all of the windows in the truck were down when it was pulled from the water the
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other report is that the passenger side rear window was down I don't know if that's
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just not a thorough report and that all of the windows were down and it's only referencing that one window for some
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reason right so both could be true true but what we do know 100% certainty based
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off of those two reports is that at least one of the windows in the vehicle were down I think that's significant for
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a couple of reasons no expert but I'm guessing here captain that if you leave a window down
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or multiple windows down in a vehicle that baby's going to sink a little faster yes F fill up with water a little
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faster also gives you a way out gives you a way out if you need to get out the other thing too is if you've done
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something terrible to somebody in that vehicle that's left a whole lot of blood a bloody mess inside that truck that
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water is going to help wash away some of that right now what we are told here is
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that the remaining blood evidence so it's believed that for their it's actually we say significant blood amount
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of blood found in the truck that doesn't sound to me to be the actual case it sounds to me like a small amount of
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blood probably the size of uh let's say a football is found underneath the steering wheel and a small amount of
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blood is found either in or near the map pocket which would also be right in about that same location of the vehicle
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it's on the it's on the driver's side mhm so all of your blood is kind of in one
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area now while it's not a large amount of blood and I've not seen pictures so I'm speculating here but my guess is
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what you probably had happened was that there was once a significant a very large huge bloody mess in that truck and
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because the water washed a lot of it away this is the only blood that remains well why does this Blood remain and the
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the rest got washed away right this Blood had coagulated coagulation so now it's it's almost like a a very sticky
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almost tar likee substance right that that's adhered itself to those surfaces in the truck sticky sticky and who knows
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how long it would have had to soak in that water to to wash away that evidence or if it ever would but we both agree
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this is not a good sign and this to me is evidence look people can say well maybe Brandy dumped her truck in this
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Pond herself and she left her Bel belongings in the truck to to be but it doesn't make a lot of
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sense so when you start looking at missing person cases you go well is there any reason for her to commit
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suicide yes there's there's some bad going on in her life but she has a lot of positives as well we don't have
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anybody saying that she's depressed we have no body found so you can kind of rule that out
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pretty quickly but then you go well did she want to run away MH and when they talk to the last person that they that
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Brandy talked to the the married man she was having an affair with he claims well she was going
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to run away but I think how did she get there where did she go why would she leave these
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belongings behind why why would you ditch this vehicle that supposedly she had a fondness
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for why would you destroy the vehicle yeah she loved that vehicle and so we need to go
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through what was in the vehicle and what was not in the vehicle because that's going to be of significance here to our
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case but before we get to that let's go through this Blood evidence a little bit
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more we will later learn through testing it will be confirmed that is Brandy Hall's blood in that truck
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so it does it indicates that that there is foul play something Foul Play in nature happened to this woman in this
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vehicle now what the experts will tell us is that for that blood to coagulate like it did to stay in that truck it had
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to have been allowed to dry for a period of time meaning whatever happened to create that bloody mess
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didn't happen and then seconds minutes later somebody's figuring out how to put that truck in the water right it's
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believed that it would have had to sit out there and dry for a period of time before it
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entered the water submerged into this Pond the experts have said that for the blood to reach that state they believe
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that it would have been between about 5 to 8 hours hours now keep in mind she's last seen
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by this police officer around midnight Vehicles found around the gear is found around noon and then later they pull the
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truck out so what we can say is we now have eyes on this Pond starting when Dude is out there fishing so once he
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starts fishing nobody put that vehicle in there in that pond after that time starts right so we have if it had to
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have dried for five to eight hours that leaves us with a very small window of time when this vehicle would have
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entered the pond now again I'm no expert and I shouldn't I I I shouldn't combat what these individuals are
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saying but my experience with blood coagulating and drying like that again I've not seen
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pictures of the interior of this truck after it was pulled from the pond my experience is that it I've seen
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blood dried like that on a Surface within about 3 hours so I question the five to eight hours a
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little bit I and don't you think that the environment it's in being in Florida hotter weather thank you yes sir doesn't
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that play a factor thank you I mean some people will call us dumb asses or do masses but I I think that plays a factor
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here it's well like we said it's going to be in the mid to high 70s when she goes
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missing and so I do think that that matters right I mean that's that's just the way the world works the hotter it is
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the warmer it is things seem to dry faster so I think that I would like to expand
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that 5 to eight hours to I don't know what would you say captain closer to 3 to 8 hours right and that means that
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this stuff could have went down in the the small hours of August 18 2006 it could have been 3:00 in the
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morning when that truck went in the water right so the items that are that would have been expected to be found in
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the vehicle one we don't have any person that's found in the vehicle obviously but we don't have her radio
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her fire radio a medical bag and Brandy was known to carry a personal firearm now it sounds to me
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like she didn't always carry it on her person but it was often found in her truck so a firearm would have been
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either in her truck other reports state that she carried a pack which would have
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carried the firearm like like a maybe like a backpack right so gun never found medical bag not found in the truck fire
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radio not not found in the truck now the police dive team they're going to be searching this Pawn so this this
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technically the search of this Pond starts taking place on on Friday August 18th but this search will
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continue in various methods for the next following days so for about six days technically this is really Six-Day
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process so on the 18th they they find the gear the fisherman does pull it out pull the truck from the pond on the 19th
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we have dive teams there they're looking for Brandy and in fact I believe that they that they were thinking they would
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probably find her in the water they don't find her in this Pond and so then they decide you know what she's got to
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be there or her other items her other belongings are probably there we want to make sure we didn't lose or miss any
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evidence here because you only have two situations at this point right you find this truck with her blood in it in that
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pond you're thinking she did this to herself or somebody did this to her and we probably should in under both of
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those scenarios we think it's likely that we will find her near this vehicle so they do their due diligence captain
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and they drain the pond now this is a little bit confusing this takes about three days or so for them to do it
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shouldn't be that confusing they're going to take the water out of the pond well right but that's actually not
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exactly what happens this a joke this is an L-shaped Pond roughly yeah what they
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decided to do is they brought in Personnel that that created a dam they basically damned off half of the Pond
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from the other half they were concerned about the half where they found the truck and they drained the water from
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that side into the other side so when we say we drain the pawn they didn't really
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drain the pawn they drained half of the pawn right so that's why I wanted to be clear and that's why I said it was a
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little tricky here now what happens that same day well Randall Richmond dirty Randall
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Richmond he's questioned by police a couple of times and just to be clear this is the guy that's married that's
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having an affair with Brandy yes from my understanding and this is a little dicey
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too and I can't sort out if it's the reporting on the situation or the timeline just as we said it's it's got
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some gaps in it but it sounds like to me that a bunch of other things are happening all at the same time so we
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know Jeff Hall is off at court he gets sentenced and he's going to go away Jeff Hall says that Randall Richmond called
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him that morning and he's according to Jeff Hall Randall Richmond is crying now most of
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this convers we only have Jeff Hall's side of the story Jeff Hall says that Randall called
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and told him you know uh he's crying and says look buddy I'm not going to be able
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to be at your sentencing hearing I've had a change of heart I have I've worked my way up to this position at the fire
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uh with the fire department I'm a public servant I I'm building towards my retirement I think it would be a bad
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move for my career to go and stand up for you in court so I'm I'm backing out on having promised you that I would go
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and vouch for you and and say what a stand-up guy you are at your sentencing hearing it's also kind of weird the guy
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that is sleeping with your wife and has been for about 10 years is going to be a
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character witness well I also very strange I also think that you can um well keep in mind I'm it wouldn't be out
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of the realm a possibility I'm guessing maybe even Randall worked for Jeff at one time but yeah but still it's oh no
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it's very weird yeah it's very weird but again that's why wonky donkey man that's
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why I don't think that I that's why I don't think that the spouses 100% knew exactly what was going on or maybe they
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knew and they just didn't care they well it's also been stated several times over
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that the Hall's marriage had while they still cared for another and they obviously they're being good parents to
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their children for the most part I mean we can say good parents except for you you set up a drug operation at some
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point but well hey he was just trying to provide a little extra for his family but it's been said that the Hall's
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marriage had been falling apart for a long period of time I mean look they could have had an arrangement hey we're
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going to stay married and we're going to live together for the kids and I and because they're they're both
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firefighters and I I don't want to pretend to know what that lifestyle would be but that would be a very
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difficult situation to be you know to go multiple days sometimes without seeing your partner I know but I'm envious of
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all the cool tools and gear that they get to work with yeah very envious well you know we could we could always buy a
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fir Tru I'll post my uh Nick wants to be a firefighter picture on Twitter here soon yeah real quick just you know go to
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right here's the thing though we don't know exactly what this conversation was between Randall and Jeff keep in mind
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this is before the the sentencing hearing but I think we can confirm some of it because we do have both persons
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who would later talk about this conversation so Jeff's the only one that says Randall was crying on the phone
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but what we can agree on is Randall later says Jeff didn't seem too concerned that I wasn't going to show up
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to the sentencing hearing so it seems like both are agreeing that that is portion of the nature of his call right
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and and let's go back to some of the fact we know the call happen so we know that much so what yeah so what happens
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here is Randall says look Jeff wasn't too concerned because he pled guilty he knew he knows he's going to prison it's
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only in question at the length of the sentence but it sounds like a lot of this stuff was worked out between the
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state and his attorneys in advance so a lot of this sentencing hearing is not a big mystery and some people have
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speculated that Jeff Hall killed his wife because she was supposed to go testify and maybe maybe she changed her
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mind like like rich like uh Randall did right and said you know I'm not going to
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go vouch for for I'm not going to go say you're a standup guy I decided I don't like you and some people say well maybe
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he got mad and killed her because he needed her to to to go and say what a good guy he was but again you got to
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look at the whole situation and the whole situation is that very little was going to come out of how many people
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went to court to say that this guy's a good guy right a lot of this was already pre-arranged and so Jeff basically says
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look man I I don't care too much uh I understand one of the two someone on this phone call though asked the other
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have you seen Brandy my guess is that it's Jeff asking Randall yes Randall says according to Jeff I no I've not
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talked to her yet today now another weird thing too is I don't know what's missing from this
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timeline is what time was she who and when did somebody notify police that they believe that Brandy
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Hall is missing yeah that's a big question mark because nowhere in any timeline that I've reviewed is that do
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we have that that event taking place well what we do know and what look my speculation
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is we know for a fact that she's missing once she doesn't show up for court we know we know that much at least law
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enforcement knows that much but also what's what's strange too in this whole thing is once law enforcement knows that
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she's missing she they start questioning the husband and he's going I can't talk
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to you and he's not being cooperative which is very strange well so a couple things happen here that and that's what
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that's what's really bizarre like we you know we've covered a lot of missing persons cases we've covered a lot of
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timelines here in the garage this one there's so much stuff happening all at about the same time in a very short
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period of time that it gets difficult to keep track of this so I'll I'll try to be as succinct as I can right that
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morning Jeff Hall and Randall have that phone call that we just discussed now it's
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also reported that in the 9:00 hour close to 9 a.m. that Patrol officers knock on the door of Randall Richmond
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and they talk to him asking him uh if he is talk to Brandy hall or knows where she is and his response is I didn't know
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that she was missing at 10:00 a.m. Randall calls Jeff Hall now he's at court by this time he answers his phone
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in court and they have a very short conversation where Randall is asking Jeff if he can
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go to the Halls property because remember that skid steer that we talked about yesterday that Brandy
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owns I'm a little unclear about this I think maybe Randall had co-signed or helped her to purchase that skid
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steer but the way that Randall describes it is that that there were some warranty
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issues with the skid steer that were going to be addressed and that Brandy was supposed to have dropped it off so
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it could be serviced but that didn't happen br's missing the phone call to Jeff is
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Randall asking permission can I go to your property take the machine off of the trailer so the people that are going to
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service it can come out and work on it to which Jeff says yeah sure yeah but it seems like a very dumb thing to be
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concerned about when the person you've been having an affair with for 10 years is missing well we're going to get into
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that because what's going to happen that same day on the same day that Jeff is sentenced yes he's questioned where's
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your wife she's missing he goes yeah I know I was concerned before I before I got sentenced I was concerned uh when I
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couldn't get a hold of her last night I was concerned when I couldn't get a hold
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of her the this morning and I was concerned when she didn't show up to court he doesn't really seem to have any
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answers now here's in his defense yes he he's not cooperating so that looks really
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bad but his attorneys would later come out and say look we knew that he would have
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appeals to these charges and we were hoping to get a lesser sentence even after the fact even after he was
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sentenced and in by Florida State law when you are being questioned for anything anything you say about anything
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can be used against you in the court of law meaning we can ask you about your missing
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wife but we could also work in some questions about the drug operation or anything else and that could be held
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against you in the court of law keep in mind at this time we don't 100% know that there's
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anything crazy going on other than the fact that they pulled the truck from the pond I can't say with 100% certainty
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that the news reports are stating on that day that blood was found in the truck he he may have just been look
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maybe he killed his wife maybe he's sitting there in a holding cell going what the hell's going on where the hell
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is she and he's just clueless and he's got attorney saying right now we're advising you to not talk to the
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today [Music] all right we are back to the windows to the walls onward and upward cheers to
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you the nasty nasty nasty Colonel cheers to everybody out there in listener land we have something that happens that
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evening that's really interesting to me we have Randall Richmond who's going going to be talking with
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police and that night he tells them the first the first thing he says to them is I haven't talked to her in weeks
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I haven't talked to Brandy Hall in in a while it's been quite some time weeks is
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what he says haven't talked to her in weeks yeah two days later they're going to be sitting at the same table asking
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the same questions to the same man and he's going to be giving very different answers his answers at this time is look
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she called me that night and said that she was going to meet with somebody she's waiting on some money she's going
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to get some money and she's going to leave and I wanted to cover for her and so I that's why I lied to you guys two
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days earlier was that I she told me that she was going to take off and leave and I
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was just covering for in a missing person investigation if I'm a detective anybody that's telling me an
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individual is running away I'm going to find that to be very fishy oh I was just covering up for you
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just become number one suspect in my eyes there son one thing I really want to know
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about is on that same day remember Randall and Jeff Randall calls Jeff Jeff's already at the courthouse they
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have a very quick conversation about this piece of equipment this Bobcat he wants to take it off the trailer so it
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can be serviced remember his words to Jeff though are that Brandy was supposed to take it
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to the service station to be fixed or worked on right his request is that they are going to come out and work on it at
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the hall property as long as it somebody takes it off of the trailer there's a couple things that are
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very weird here one the place that would service it has no record of working on any
00:35:08
machine in that area that day okay so that looks awfully suspicious for Randall Richmond however remember he did say it
00:35:20
was warranty issues so if the only records they're keeping are for in purposes well if it was items
00:35:29
that were under warranty they may not have those records years later because it wasn't anything that anybody was
00:35:37
charged for nobody paid for anything because it was items under warranty they do have record of a
00:35:43
service call where they charged for a service call on that day that morning so that
00:35:51
does go with what Randall Richmond's saying the problem is what are those records who paid for what did they go to
00:35:57
that address that stuff we don't know that stuff is unclear if they even if they have that information at all it's
00:36:05
either never been made public or the police don't have that information or they don't have the details of that
00:36:11
service call however private investigators have pointed out a couple things there would be no charge for a
00:36:20
service call if you just drive it to where it gets worked on there charging cuz they
00:36:27
have to go out on location exactly and that company tells the private investigators look we always encourage
00:36:35
people to bring the equipment to us it saves them money and it saves us time Randall Richmond would have had the
00:36:42
ability to take the trailer with the equipment with the machine on it already and just drive it it's 2 miles from the
00:36:49
hall property to where this machine the Bobcat the skid steer whatever you want to call it would have been worked on
00:36:57
so that seems like a bit of a no-brainer now we do have reports that the skid steer was removed from the
00:37:03
trailer but never left the hall property that day which is really curious to me I
00:37:08
want to know who gave them that information because keep in mind on that day at the time when
00:37:16
Randall Richmond is asking to go to the hall property take that machine off of the trailer what's going on at that
00:37:23
property that day a whole lot of nothing because Brandy Hall is missing right the
00:37:29
children have been dropped off at a family friends or family member or friend's house to be cared for that day
00:37:36
because Dad's in court being sentenced to go to prison so the four people that live at that house live on that property
00:37:44
nobody's there that day so who the hell is telling us and how are we getting confirmation that the skid steer never
00:37:51
left that property that day and that is significant to me for a million reasons that we're going to get into some of
00:37:57
those here in a minute Captain are you okay if we go through some suspects and theories I know we've been dancing
00:38:02
around a lot of them as we went through the timeline but to be clear to everybody I think we should go through
00:38:08
some of this information well let's start where I would start if I was law enforcement let's start with the husband
00:38:15
okay so let's go to Jeff Hall so there is a theory out there that Jeff Hall is responsible some believe that Jeff to
00:38:22
have been involved in his wife's disappearance uh this has because of the amount of legal pressure he was under
00:38:29
due to the drug charges bu look there's another motive anyways she's having an affair yeah may maybe he wants to get
00:38:38
his revenge on her before he's locked up yeah and again look I don't mean to throw her under the bus or throw any
00:38:48
shade on her name but if she's having this affair that for 10 years and this guy that she's having an affair with
00:38:56
well he's a lying piece of anyways but he's saying well it's it's not really physical it's just kind of
00:39:02
emotional like that makes it any better but is there a possibility that she was having or trying to get attention from
00:39:11
somebody else is is this affair happening or is it on the way out and so that would be another motive
00:39:19
against the husband okay well I I I could accept the one Affair but the second Affair I can't accept or like you
00:39:26
said get the Revenge before he goes to prison or is there some information that she
00:39:32
has with these drug charges maybe you know he's downplaying the situation himself cuz like we said two sides of
00:39:40
the coin law enforcement is saying this is a complex operation and he's saying well
00:39:46
this was just to make a little extra money on the side what does she know and that would be motive to get rid
00:39:52
of her so she doesn't tell anybody there's a lot of stuff and then when law enforcement starts questioning
00:40:01
you the lawyers are saying hey you can't talk to our client and you you go if you
00:40:09
really care about her give them as much information as you can you can have your
00:40:13
lawyers sit in with you and say no no no no you can't ask that question but they
00:40:19
could ask you something but in his defense once all that is said and done he starts Co operating with law
00:40:27
enforcement so yes we we have a situation where Jeff Hall will eventually cooperate with the police in
00:40:35
the regard of his missing wife so before we get to that let's go through these the drug situation because
00:40:43
PE people were probably going well wait what about the charges the drug charges against Brandy
00:40:48
Hall I don't know when this happened but it's in the record those charges were eventually dropped against Brandy here's
00:40:57
my understanding of the situation Captain Paul and Jeff they have this grow operation
00:41:06
police they do their normal thing right when you bust up a a drug ring or a grow
00:41:12
operation you're looking for all the other people involved you know who will these guys
00:41:18
rat on who will they tell us is involved well Jeff and his business partner have
00:41:26
the exact same answer we only know one there's only one other person involved so police vet this pretty good and they
00:41:35
believe Jeff and they believe his business partner that they don't know like people at the ground level they
00:41:42
don't know the street pushers they don't know the people that would be moving the
00:41:47
product they know one person their intent was to grow Harvest and then sell everything to
00:41:56
this one guy and then he would make sure that all the product gets moved and sold
00:42:01
to the people on the streets the consumers right right and when he's all out he'll have to go back to the
00:42:08
supplier which is their grow operation Jeff and his business partner agree that the one person that that that
00:42:17
they know that's involved that they could rat on for leniency is a person that they've known for a very long time
00:42:24
and they both tell police the same thing we're not going to rat on this one guy just to save our own butts or any
00:42:31
leniency police do their full investigation and they believe that all of that is true and that is in part why
00:42:38
we have Jeff just pleading guilty look this I did this I'm admitting to it yeah which makes you
00:42:46
wonder how bad of a dude is this guy if they're not willing to give him up is it a situation of if we give him
00:42:56
up my children are killed no I don't think it's like that at all like may maybe I mean there is some speculation
00:43:02
one of the one of the major theories here is a drug related disappearance or death right I mean think about that
00:43:09
because what if this said person he's saying look I I made a deal I'm not going to give you up don't hurt my
00:43:16
family and then this person says you know what I'm going to get rid of your wife to let you know how serious this is
00:43:23
and if you even if I even think you're thinking of my name I'll get rid of your children but we should underline
00:43:30
the fact that he he does not give that person up no but that's what I'm saying isn't that more evidence
00:43:37
of to me by not giving the person up you there's a reason are is it because you're scared of this individual which
00:43:46
could be but they do state the reason they they're open with police saying it's a it's it's a longtime lifelong
00:43:55
friend mhm and we are not going to have this person jammed up and thrown in prison
00:44:03
because we tattled on them well no and I understand like you can believe them but
00:44:07
you could also not believe them because they are criminals I agree with you Captain what I'm saying is the persons
00:44:14
investigating the situation agreed with that right and here's the other thing too we we talk about how big is this
00:44:21
drug operation this is how this goes all the time right when they make a huge drug
00:44:28
bust everything everything is elevated everything is heightened we made this huge drug bust we took $42 Million worth
00:44:36
of drugs off the streets today let's applaud and let's throw a freaking parade for the persons that busted this
00:44:42
thing up right and then guess what happens a year and a half later when they sentenced the person that did this
00:44:47
such horrible thing that was going to put all these drugs on the streets that was going to kill every baby that you've
00:44:52
ever met they give him a slap on the wrist because at the end of the day it's it a lot of this is victimless crimes
00:45:00
and the the money is inflated the the money that they could make is inflated because it looks good in headlines it
00:45:07
looks good on the news and they always do this stuff Jeff he's running this giant huge drug operation that that they
00:45:15
that they want to celebrate this huge bust what did he end up getting 18 months in prison right it's not that big
00:45:23
of a deal he's not going to serve all 18 probably and then on top of this in state of Ohio if you if you're going to
00:45:30
serve 80% at Best of your sentence well no and I know I'm the one putting out hey there's a cartel and
00:45:39
they're going to kill your whole family but let's see if you agree with what I'm
00:45:44
putting down right let's see if you can pick up what I'm putting down don't you think the type of drug that they're
00:45:53
trying to sell don't don't you think that play some part where you go okay well we had these 13 acres we're going
00:46:00
to grow some marijuana we're going to sell it to this guy we're not going to give you his name because he's a
00:46:04
lifelong friend we we decided to do this we don't want to ruin his life as well and you go well it it was
00:46:14
weed it was Mar marij Joana right when I think of well don't give up my name or I'm going to kill your whole
00:46:24
family I start thinking of higher end drugs cocaine heroin methamphetamines right seems like this well the the
00:46:37
punishment would be more severe for other types of drugs I mean marijuana charges are are pretty low on the totem
00:46:44
pole there and in fact you can fast forward to less than 20 years later and it's legal and for recreational use in
00:46:53
many many states right these days and so so I'm just saying like my theory on on
00:47:01
why they want to give him up like I think it's not as likely because it's a lesser drug well and we also have a
00:47:09
couple of other factors that we need to to sort through here first off you know of course he denies any involvement and
00:47:17
we do know that law enforcement has stated that Jeff Hall has passed lie detector
00:47:23
test administered in relation to this case and there's also been a few sources that state that he's been
00:47:31
cleared as being involved in in The Disappearance of his wife and then there there's also sources that state that the
00:47:37
drug angle a drug rated death for you know bry's life being in danger has also been cleared by police that they've
00:47:47
worked that angle and they don't find any evidence to suggest that now I'm not stating that every Source states that
00:47:55
and I've never I've never seen anything in print from law enforcement that states that I've just reviewed a couple
00:48:02
of sources that state that they examine that angle they've cleared Jeff and they've cleared the possibility of a
00:48:08
drug rated [Music] [Applause] [Music] death a whale of a case stick around for part
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three until then be good be kind and don't [Music] [Applause] win [Music]