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let's stock some true crime [Music] thank you [Music] [Applause] the following is taken from letters
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written and sent by inmate number 270-896 Joseph Roy Metheny while serving two life sentences without the
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possibility of parole you have always asked me if I have any remorse for what I have done
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nope I sleep just fine I did most of those sorry pieces of [ __ ] a favor they had one foot in the coffin and
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another on a banana peel long before they ran into me the first time I took a life I was
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scared shitless I was only 15 years old I had tried to get this little 12 year old girl to notice me but she never
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would school let out for the day and I followed her home I had done this several times before
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she would cut through this little patch in the woods well one day her luck ran out
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for that was the day that I killed her I experienced a lot of Firsts that day she was my first kill
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she was also my first rape I ran up behind her and grabbed her and pulled her into those woods
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I pushed her on the ground and told her to take her clothes off she was a little slow so I helped her by
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ripping them off I beat and raped her for two hours then I stood up to look at what I had
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done she was holding herself and crying she was dirty and bloody there was a big rock lying about three
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feet from me I picked it up and started bashing in her head with it I dug a shallow grave and I buried her
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and that is where she is resting to this day that same rock that I killed her with is
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her headstone that happened back in September of 1970. I used to walk back into those woods
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many times when I was in the area just to check on her when I was a kid I used to tear my toys
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apart just to see what was inside of them I used to get off on hurting things it started with bugs
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just seeing what would happen when you pull the legs or Wings off then I moved to animals
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when you kill someone it feels like time stops and goes in slow motion you get excited
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and the adrenaline starts pumping then when the life drains from your victim it becomes very quiet
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and you stand there gazing down at what you have done reality comes back to you and then you
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get scared and you don't know what to do most will run away from the scene the best way to handle the situation is
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to try and hide the body until you can take a little time and calm yourself down
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when it gets dark get a shovel a couple of trash bags and a bag of lime now dig a hole three to four feet will
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work line the bottom of the hole with trash bags strip the body of all the clothing and
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jewelry and put that in a trash bag to take with you and throw away somewhere else far away
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now take the bag of lime pour some all over the bottom of the hole and then place the body in the hole
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now pour the rest of the bag of lime all over the body then take the shovel fill in the hole
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your first kill is the hardest anything else after that is like swatting flies and stepping on bugs
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you will have no feelings at all yes I was young when I took the life away from that sweet little 12 year old
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redhead girl I was her first and I was her last she's been lying out there in those
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woods in a shallow grave cold and naked for 37 years now when I was in the outside world I would
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buy Six beers each year and go sit beside her grave and drink them and think about what I
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had done at that very spot on September 19th 1970. anyone else would have probably started
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feeling remorse and would have probably started crying at that grave but not me every year when I would go out there I
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would do the same thing I would relive the murder in my mind and then I would pick up my beer cans
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and I would go home that's the big difference between me and people like you I had a lot of bad things happen to me
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when I was very young I learned to block it out over the years but in reality all that did
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was make me hollow inside in some ways that's a good thing for when you no longer have a conscience
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or the ability to care you don't have emotions or feelings and no one can hurt you anymore
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I sure as hell I'm no one's special in fact I am damn far from it I'm nothing more than what life has made
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me I have made a lot of decisions in my life and it's sad to say most of those decisions were wrong ones
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I am not proud of the murders I did out there well to tell you the truth maybe I am a
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little proud of what I did I was a hard worker a truck driver a forklift operator
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but it seems the best thing I ever learned how to do is take the life of another away from
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them there were several people that I killed that one might say that I feel bad about
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but most of them were living on borrowed time I feel I may have done most of those
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drug addicted crack [ __ ] a favor I definitely help them to get off of drugs these are the words of convicted serial
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killer Joseph Roy Metheny foreign [Music] you heard me just describe him as a serial killer Captain you and I were
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talking about something the other day I thought it was an interesting conversation the old school of thought
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was that to be a serial killer you had to have killed three different people at three different times kind of the new
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school of thought is that a serial killer is somebody that kills two people yeah at two separate times you had a
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feeling that you uh to be lumped into that group you you're more of the old school of thought
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the the three number three or more killings yeah and but what I can tell you so if you kill one person
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you get put in the category of a real piece of [ __ ] well whether you're of the
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school of thought of three or more killings makes a serial killer or two or more right Joe Metheny kind of I mean
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you can't get any closer to three or more than what he did he was convicted of two killings plus an attempted uh
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attack that he did on a girl that he got 50 years for the problem with Joe though
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is he would confess to many more killings throughout the course of his life and actually you heard in the first
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trailer where he talked about a cold case of a woman he had killed when he was a truck driver and this last trailer
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to this show you hear him talk about his first kill of when he was only a teenager himself killing a 12 year old
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girl that he had followed into the woods and pulled her into the woods and this confession actually hasn't been proven
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true or false correct uh neither has the can confession that he made to killing the woman when he was a truck driver
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we'll get back into that in a little bit because where we finished up yesterday was covering his trials well his second
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trial he was convicted and as we said he kind of went crazy telling the jury a bunch of horrible things that that he
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did to his victims well he gets sentenced to death in that trial and his lawyer is going to appeal the death
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sentence that Joe received now this would be appealed several times and this thing went pretty far up the chain from
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my understanding before they overturned his death sentence one of the deciding judges had this to say about overturning
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the decision I do agree that the sentence of death in this case must be vacated Mr Metheny if the record in the
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statement he gave at his sentencing hearing are accurate he is a Serial murderer as such he is the ultimate
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characterization of evil there may well be many sincere proponents of the death penalty who would hold a position that
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death would be an appropriate penalty for Mr methany's actions the legislature however has not established serial
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murder as a death qualified offense in other words a person who commits two or more murders during one incident can be
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sentenced to death but a person who commits one murder a month for 12 months before he is apprehended making him a
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Serial murderer cannot be sentenced to death in my view this is the judge's view the real reason the death sentence
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was sought in this case is that Mr Metheny was a heinous serial murder because serial murder is not a death
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qualified offense in this state the state of Maryland right the prosecution sought the death penalty on the premise
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that Mr methany robbed the victim when he buried the victim's clothing and purse separate from her body this
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strategy which was successfully employed by the state in the Circuit Court stretches Maryland's death penalty
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statute beyond the scope of intended but what was intended by the legislature wow
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ah yeah but this is the problem is the justice system you know whether it's in this country or other countries there's
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some really stupid things there are um and you know unfortunately that judge has to
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just uphold the laws in his State as they are created yeah um and and I think he did that in my opinion in this case
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as much as I would have liked to have seen you know I've I've come out on here and said certain people do deserve the
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death penalty I'm not I'm not saying that I'm for it at all times but I think this Joe Metheny is a real
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monster and I don't know that there's any value in just holding him somewhere right but it's it's ridiculously stupid
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right that's stupid to think that you know oh you killed two people at one time you deserve the death penalty you
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killed 400 people in four days one at a time yeah separate times oh you you just
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you hey we'll give you five years you know I I don't know it's just ridiculous right right
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um I want to give before we go through some of his confessions and some information that Joe would
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provide to us because I want to look at those and I want you and I to take a look at them and determine which ones at
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what times do we think he's telling the truth and at what times do we think that
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he's lying because you have a guy here that's been convicted to multiple murders but he would ultimately go on to
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confess to like 10 different murders and it's very possible that he has done some
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or all of these well he lived a nomadic life and plus he had some nomadic jobs being along the hall trucker but I want
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to give a little further background on Joe Matheny so we have a little insight into who he is and possibly how he
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became such an evil monstrous person so we had it we're going to dig a little deeper and see what else we can find
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because there is more here let's talk about methany's police record prior to these this attempted rape and the two
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murder convictions so methany's criminal record showed nothing more more then you
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know nothing more serious than common assault drunk and disorderly conduct and an occasional bar room fight
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right common assault on who um I don't have the information on who the victims of these these uh I bet
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money some of that is females it's possible but he could also have common assault charges stemming from bar room
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fights right um but so the thing here is we don't see anything in his background pointing towards this
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you know escalated behavior of this attempted rape in the two murders but what is not on his record his record
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will not show this this is something we have to discuss this is from an event that took place in 1995. Joe was charged
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with killing two 33 year old homeless men this is Randall Brewer and Randy [ __ ] the court records stated that the
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motive for the double homicide was a supposed Turf dispute between rival homeless camps
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I didn't know such things existed uh both men both of the Randy's the the victims had been mauled with a
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woodcutter's ax that methany kept under a rotting sofa at his Patapsco area camp
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ultimately Joe Anthony was acquitted of the murders in Baltimore Circuit Court get this the um the jurors sent the
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judge a note during deliberations yeah if you like me Circle yes if you don't Circle no I always put a maybe on there
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too just in case I wanna I wanna hard answer to tell it to me straight judge well you
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love me or are you not are you going to take me to the eighth grade dance or not
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judge that's what I want to know I would like to go to Frisch's Big Boy uh the the letter the note that they
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sent to the judge during deliberations suggested that they thought that another homeless man other than Joe was
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responsible for the killings okay so I bring that up because we were talking about other things that Joe may
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have confessed to and if in fact he did the other murders that he's confessing to well Bethany would later claim that
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he in fact did commit these killings that he did kill these two homeless men after a night of drinking beer okay well
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and we also know like we said before we know that he was homeless at the time we
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know he lived in like Tent City so is it you know that puts him in that kind of community right and was he
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defending himself or defending him Turf I don't know I'm not going to give this scumbag any excuses so well I can give
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you his uh confession to those murders if you'd like to hear it nah well we need we need to include it in the
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show um so this is strange though Captain because where this confession comes from
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is apparently Joe was paid 300 dollars and it's been reported I haven't been able to figure out which website paid
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him 300 but a website offered him three hundred dollars to confess to um some other murders they had they had
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at some point spoke with him and he had said you know I've killed other people and I'm sure there was some negotiating
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going back and forth trying to get this information for their website I found this
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confession on multiple websites so I don't know who out of those paid him I'm not going to get into that I think it's
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weird to be paying these guys anything when they're locked up anyway yeah but this is Joe methany's words and he
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says to start out I will tell you about myself at the present moment which is locked up I am 48 years old I weigh
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about 450 pounds and it's not all fat I've been locked up for almost eight years now but when one has been
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sentenced to a couple life sentences without parole time doesn't matter anymore I have no problem with being
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locked up for no one put me here but myself and I deserve to be right where I'm at because I had 12 law-abiding
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jurors that told me so I was only convicted of two murders in one kidnapping for The One That Got Away
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I got 50 years for her the first murder I was sentenced to life without parole the second one they gave me the death
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penalty I sat on Maryland's death row for three years and then they overturned my sentence and gave me another life
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without parole and sent me down here for the rest of my life I killed seven people Three Men and four
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women two men I chopped up with an ax under a bridge in South Baltimore I was found not guilty for them because
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they couldn't prove I did it under that same bridge I also killed two women and one man who was fishing
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who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time I weighed their bodies down and I put them in that River
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I showed the police where I put them about three years later but they couldn't find them so they could not
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charge me for those murders my murder Rampage started out as Revenge but ended up as a passion for the taste
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of blood and the overwhelming sense of power one gets from taking the life of another
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it started back in July of 1994. I was at work I was a truck driver I was working overtime this one night then I
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got off and I went home as I always did but when I opened the door and turned on
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the light I noticed that there was nothing there my old lady had taken everything
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including my son and left me her leaving was not my problem but she took my six-year-old son with her she
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was a crack addict I would have paid her to get out of my life all she had to do
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was take my son to my mother's house and she could have had everything else and be gone
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I found out about six months later she had moved on the other side of town with some guy that had her selling herself
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for drugs they got busted and they took my son away from them for child neglect and
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child abuse [Music] I had no chance of going to Social Services and trying to get my son back
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due to my past criminal record so I took it upon myself with the hatred I had for these two who had lost my son
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to go looking for them I had found out from someone that they was living under a bridge and getting high with some
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homeless guys who lived under that bridge I went under there looking for them they
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were not there but the two homeless guys they got high with were down there they were passed out on some old
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stinking mattress and that is where I left them except they were dead from being chopped up
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that same night I lured a crack addicted woman under the bridge I got her high and I was trying to get information out
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of her about where my old lady was she acted like she didn't know so I beat the hell out of her raped and killed her
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I put her in some bushes and I went and I lured a second woman down there I did the same to her as the last one but as I
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was about to throw her in the bushes with the other one I noticed an old man down by the river fishing looking back
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up at me I grabbed a steel pipe that was laying by and I ran down on him and I laid his head wide open
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so I put the two girls and him in the river and weighed them down with rocks that was a very busy night for me five
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murders within seven hours I washed up in the river and I cleaned up the crime scene as much as I could
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then I left two and a half weeks later I was arrested and charged with the murders of two men that I had chopped up
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I spent close to 18 months in Baltimore City Jail waiting to go to trial the trial lasted one week and it was thrown
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out of court because of lack of evidence I was free again I went back and I talked to my old boss asked him to give
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me my old job back at The Pallet Company there was a little trailer on the property so I told my boss to let me
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stay there and I would keep an eye on the place he agreed to this and gave me the keys to the front gate in the main
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building the company was on a dead end road and it was very isolated it was perfect for what I wanted to do I lured
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two women up to that trailer I killed and butchered their bodies up I cut the meat up and I put it in some Tupperware
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bowls and then put it in the freezer I buried the remains in several shallow graves in a little woods behind the
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company over the next couple weeks on the weekends I opened up a little open pit
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beef stand I had real roast beef and pork sandwiches and why not they were very good the human body taste very similar
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to Pork if you mix it together no one can tell the difference everything was going pretty good until I ran out of my
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special meat so I lured another woman up to my trailer I got her in there and I started to rip her clothes off and
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knocking the hell out of her she was screaming but there was no one around to hear her
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except for me and I just kept on laughing at her I turned around for a split second and
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that was my mistake for she ran out the door before I could get to her there was a chain link fence with barbed
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wire on top of it there was a stack of wooden pallets next to the fence about 10 feet high that
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woman scaled those pallets like a monkey and jumped the fence ran down to the main road where some guy picked her up
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well I knew the cops were on their way but I didn't run I gathered up her clothing grabbed the keys to the gate
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and I went out and opened it as soon as I step out of the gate a cop car pulled up and the cop jumped out and
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pulled his gun on me and told me to get on the ground and that is where it all came to an end they took me down and
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booked me she had told them that I said I was going to kill her like the rest which was true
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they had me sitting in a little room down at homicide drilling me and damn near kissing my ass
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trying to find out what I had done they pulled me out of City Jail every day for about a month taking me back and
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forth between the company and the bridge I had them going crazy at the company digging up the remains because I had the
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remains buried in seven different holes the only thing I feel bad about in any of this is I didn't get to murder the
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two I was really after and that's my ex-old lady and the bastard that she got hooked up with
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this now thank you [Music] all right we're back cheers mates cheers we're talking about Joe
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methanine yes not to be confused and not related to the great jazz guitar player
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Pat Matheny well after that confession that I just read captain that was posted on the internet
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people started calling Joe Metheny the cannibal killer and I've heard rumor that this other name was created by Joe
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himself he started calling himself the real life Hannibal Lecter now I want to get into a little more of
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an understanding of these sandwiches these quote unquote sandwiches that he claims he was making using parts of his
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victim victims mixing with beef and pork and then selling them to people that he
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knew that confession was from the internet you know somebody had paid him for that
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confession where we get this next bit of information comes from letters that he wrote to a pen pal while he was serving
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his sentence his life sentence and these letters he describes this stating that this all took place at or near the
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borderline bar the place that we know that he hung out at all the time he stated that he would get his paycheck
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cash there every Friday after work and a lot of people would go to the borderline on Sundays and they would
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walk over to methany's barbecue stand and grab a sandwich and then walk back to the borderline bar eat the sandwich
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and then wash it down with a beer while watching sports on TV Joe provided his pen pal with the recipe
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stating that he would first go out and look for a woman working the streets of Baltimore he has stated that these types
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make for the perfect victim as he puts it because no one seems to care about them
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they disappear but they are not really missing he pretty much had the same Mo in a lot
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of these cases that took place leading up to his eventual capture he would bring the woman back to the
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trailer late at night because there was really no one walking through that area his words no one could hear the woman
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screaming as he was attacking her other than him which was fine with him because
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he liked to hear them scream and like you said before he surrounded the whole trailer with piles and piles of of skids
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yes of the pilots so that probably acted as some kind of sound barrier correct he
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said if he would have enough energy he would torture the hell out of those women now I'm not going to go into
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anywhere near the amount of detail that methany has used to describe the deaths of these poor women right but some of
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them he basically according to him took them to the woods and would field dress them like you would a deer or something
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that you were hunting for food he would use a hacksaw to remove pieces of meat that he wanted from the victim he said
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that he would only use the backs of the arms and legs he would then take the meat and he would cut it up
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put it in a bowl and rinse it real clean then he would fill the bowl with water a
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cup of salt and a cup of red wine then let it sit for about four hours then wash it one more time then rub it down
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with a little pepper and tenderizer he said he would then throw it on the grill with some beef and pork meat he
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would mix it with the other meats and then make and sell sandwiches so according to Joe Metheny he was not
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only killing these women but he was chopping them up and selling them to people he knew at the borderline bar and
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people that would walk over to his open pit barbecue stand yeah one of the many um
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more extravagant let's say uh confessions that this man has made and to kind of put these confessions into
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some form into some order so we can look at them we first have the confession of his first kill when he
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says he's 15 years old and he killed the 12 year old girl yeah then later he would state that on from
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what I could find there was actually three separate confessions where he said that he had picked up a girl working one
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of these truck stop Lots and had killed her while he was a truck driver then later in life we know that he was
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married he had his son and he went out looking for his wife who had left him to kill her
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and ends up finding these two homeless guys kills the homeless guys and then that
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same night he kills two girls that are working the street because he thought maybe they would know where his ex-wife
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was yeah and then they he has to kill this guy that's fishing in the river because the guy saw them
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the guy saw him do it and then we know that we have at least the two murders that he was convicted of and the one
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attack on the girl while he was living at the trailer and then claiming that he was cutting up the bodies and selling
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them as sandwiches so a lot of words coming from this guy and a lot of people have stated you know what he's just a
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liar you know he's just he's just a scumbag that killed two women got locked up for life and then just lied about all
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this stuff I have some questions here I have some I have some thoughts and Curiosities as to
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are all of these lies because a lot of these confessions that we hear from him that we see from him
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and mind you some of these were not provided to law enforcement some of these were provided to pen pals
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that he acquired while he was in prison or he was paid for him that's correct but a lot of these are very detailed
00:34:27
confessions so I question the validity of any of them I look at the first one when he talks
00:34:37
about his first kill when he's 15 and is the 12 year old girl yeah now I didn't I didn't do like some super
00:34:45
digging here but looking for somebody to have gone missing to have been reported missing
00:34:53
that was approximately that age in that area at that time I couldn't find anybody
00:35:01
you know that's assuming that Joe's telling us the truth telling us the truth about the girl's
00:35:06
age and about the time yeah I think it's a partial truth you know but if he if he is telling the
00:35:14
truth there's no one that went missing at that time and with it being as he said a 12 year old girl 12 year old
00:35:20
victim that's somebody that I would assume to have been reported missing rather than some of some of his later
00:35:26
victims in life may have been estranged from their families and never reported missing
00:35:33
so there doesn't seem to be any indication that that in fact is true or his first kill now we do know according
00:35:41
to his confession that he sold to the website according to that confession his first
00:35:47
kill was the two homeless men so we have him contradicting himself you said something earlier and I think
00:35:55
you really keyed in on something that is that is very apparent here regardless of when this started this
00:36:03
murderous Rampage started for Joe Metheny he definitely to do the things he has done
00:36:09
he has a deep hatred for women maybe a specific kind of woman I don't know but he definitely has a deep hatred for for
00:36:17
women what what point in his life did this start I'm not certain I can't say with any
00:36:22
certainty what I suspect here Captain is that that first kill that he says that he did to the 12 year old girl yeah
00:36:30
I wonder if that was just a fantasy yeah that's what I believe I wonder if that was a something he had fantasized about
00:36:37
maybe even to the point where he had targeted a victim or maybe even followed this girl like he said he had followed
00:36:45
her several times just too young to go through with it yeah or maybe he did assault her right you know but just
00:36:54
didn't kill her that one to me that confession comes off to me to be a fantasy where I do think that we start to see
00:37:02
some truths though are where we talk about when he was a long-haul trucker out on
00:37:09
out on the road for several days or weeks at a time and he's picking up these girls that are
00:37:15
working these different lots and he's claiming that he's killed them and buried some of them
00:37:22
now I could find three confessions and throughout those three confessions talking about those types of crimes he
00:37:28
would have had four victims one of them would have been a daughter of one of the uh women working the
00:37:34
locked I here's what I think in these situations Captain he did later provide names
00:37:43
for these people I think that if these people if there were people that he actually killed in this manner if there
00:37:50
were women that he actually killed in this manner he may have used false names when when later reporting this
00:37:57
yeah or just didn't know the name my guess is that I'm guessing that this is probably where his killing may have
00:38:05
started and it's it's I have nothing to base this off of other than a bit of a numbers game you know in 2004 the FBI
00:38:13
they they Unleashed their long-haul trucker serial killer initiative to the public where they started explaining to
00:38:21
us that you know we can come up with about five to six hundred different victims that we believe have been killed
00:38:28
by these different serial killer truck drivers yeah and the FBI stating back in 2004 that there's possibly 200 of these
00:38:37
people types of killers out roaming the interstates in in the highways of this great country
00:38:44
and I'm scary you're right and I so I'm just kind of playing a numbers game here
00:38:49
I don't know that he killed those four people I don't know that all three of those confessions are accurate or truth
00:38:56
but I think that he's probably trying to tell us that that's probably where this
00:39:02
began for him he probably killed one maybe two women while he was out on the road and then when he came back here
00:39:10
he tried to establish his life back here he had a wife he had a local job where he didn't have to be gone for weeks at a
00:39:19
time yeah he had a son that I don't know how he treated the Sun but according to
00:39:23
his words he seemed to care about him to the point of at least where he was upset
00:39:28
and angered that the sun was taken from him I wonder if there's any truth to there being a son there is a son uh he
00:39:36
does exist he's alive he's alive now what I think about that confession regarding the homeless man the two women
00:39:44
under the bridge and the man fishing I really think he probably killed those two homeless men
00:39:51
I don't know I don't know what to think about the two women under the bridge or the guy fishing
00:39:58
well the other thing too is when you're drinking that much booze and you're doing that many drugs
00:40:04
you know what part of his reality you know well some of this stuff you know just dreams
00:40:11
he had or was or did he black out I mean how much does he actually remember about his
00:40:17
existence right but the reason why I say that I think he killed those two homeless men is you
00:40:24
know they had some kind of evidence to make that arrest two and a half weeks after they were killed yeah it wasn't
00:40:30
enough evidence to make a trial out of it or to bring him to court for it or I'm sorry to get a conviction for that
00:40:36
but later he goes on to confess to it I I think he did it I think there's probably there was proof beforehand and
00:40:44
then later we have him confessing to it he's got nothing to lose he was acquitted he can't be charged with it
00:40:49
again and tried again now the thing with the women and and the guy fishing I've heard from some local
00:40:55
people and I don't forgive me if this is wrong I can only go off of what these people have told me they've told me they
00:41:03
would be shocked that anyone would fish in that River at all right um I know here in Ohio we have some
00:41:09
rivers that nobody would fish in yeah um so three-eyed fish so the some of the local people don't believe portions of
00:41:17
this confession or all of it because of that simple fact the other thing you tapped into something good there too
00:41:22
talking about his mental state is there a chance that in some kind of homicidal rage he killed these two homeless men
00:41:29
and then blacked out and maybe dreamed the the that he continued to kill I mean you're talking about he says it would
00:41:38
have been five victims in the course of seven or seven and a half hours right which is very much like American Psycho
00:41:44
right so here again I think we have some partial truth to to his confessions and
00:41:52
then these later confessions we know he killed these women um is there potentially one or two more
00:41:58
that we don't know about I doubt it he seemed to talk a lot he seemed to tell us a lot of maybe even fake crimes
00:42:06
um and he seemed to keep the bodies he seemed to be lazy about the disposal of the bodies is what it appears to me yeah
00:42:13
I think he was just a lazy person in general and the thing for the sandwiches um
00:42:20
so I mean what's interesting here is I question whether or not there was even a stand that he sold these at but you
00:42:30
said that there is there's so many definite evidence or Witnesses of this even better there are some people that
00:42:39
used to work at the same company with Joe yeah and people that used to go to the borderline
00:42:45
bar that not only witnessed this but said they have purchased these sandwiches from Joe
00:42:52
and so you have some of the people that are like no it's all made up he's you know he's he's just pulling our chain
00:42:59
and then you have some people that are like I'm not certain but I I'm afraid that I probably
00:43:06
ate human flesh all right here's what I think so so we do know we have some proof that the the barbecue
00:43:14
stand existed yeah and I was with you I questioned that it having had even existed at all because if you Google
00:43:21
some pictures of Joe methany I'm not buying any food from this guy I don't care huh why not why not well have you
00:43:31
seen his crazy face he's got a crazy face you know a heavier set you know Chef oh I don't mind a
00:43:38
heavyset Chef that normally knows what they're doing yeah I don't like a skinny Chef is what I don't like but yeah I
00:43:44
also don't like crazy face chef anyway I I think that ugly face I think that he sold the sandwiches as
00:43:52
we have the witnesses that say that I think we have a situation here Captain where his world got very small Joe
00:43:59
methany's World got very small he got addicted to drugs he became hardcore alcoholic and at some point he lived and
00:44:07
worked at the same place he walked down the street to the nearest bar to cash his check and sat on a stool every night
00:44:16
in there and when he wasn't in there he was back in his trailer doing drugs his whole world was that little city block
00:44:22
and I think his way at the end to you know all these people later are going to talk about him
00:44:28
oh he's locked up he's arrested oh we he was nice he was this he was that but in
00:44:34
the end Joe can go to all say to all those people or think to himself all those people I had the last laugh on you
00:44:41
yeah I might be locked up I might be serving life in prison I had the last laugh on you because I sold you
00:44:47
sandwiches that had human flesh in them yeah there's not a lot of evidence of this in
00:44:54
the autopsies you're right there has been no statements from law enforcement to back
00:44:59
up his claim or to deny his claim that might just be be protecting the citizens and also protecting the victims yeah
00:45:08
well my guess is it's a lie right you know and and I think you know what evidence we have of this is like
00:45:17
you said there's not evidence of such in the autopsies he described how he removed the the the meat quote-unquote
00:45:25
meat that he used right um but we don't see any indication of that in the findings well it's clear
00:45:31
from his first the the confession about the 12 year old where he is rejected or he feels rejected by a girl or maybe
00:45:41
multiple girls right and he probably was rejected later in life by uh women and probably just Society in general
00:45:51
and I think again that shows his hatred maybe his hatred came from his mother I'm not really for sure hatred of women
00:45:58
came from his mother but what I think these confessions and when people are actually now listening
00:46:05
to him I feel like that was you know he knows he's locked away he did have some acceptance from his employers
00:46:15
um or co-workers and now that he's in jail other than the inmates nobody really wants to talk to
00:46:21
him he seemed like he had some intelligence so by talking to you know people that run websites or pen pals or
00:46:29
whatever maybe he just felt like I have to keep giving them something and that's a form
00:46:35
of acceptance and that's kind of what they want so I'm just going to play into that so I get some kind of acceptance
00:46:41
that's how that's my gut feeling on some of the the crazy stuff he talks about but what's really hard to deny is that
00:46:49
he did have certain confessions that were almost 100 percent truthful right so it's like you kind of keep that
00:46:56
in the back your head like well there's not Time After Time After Time where you find out that Joe is a is a
00:47:03
liar so I hope for the obviously the victim's sake and then anybody that bought a sandwich that that that
00:47:13
statement is false Joe Metheny was a serial killer that I had never heard of until fairly recently six seven eight
00:47:22
months ago something like that started looking into his story a while back and even though he was the serial killer
00:47:29
that I had never heard of he certainly won that after reading these stories in these newspaper articles yeah uh he's
00:47:37
certainly one that I won't forget um and I don't mean that in a good way but Joe has passed away
00:47:45
um he did die in prison at the age of 62 last year in August uh he was serving his life sentences in the western
00:47:54
correctional institute in Cumberland Maryland uh prison officials found him dead and unresponsive in his cell he was
00:48:03
described by prison officials to be morbidly obese at the time of his death and is believed that he died from a
00:48:10
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