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welcome to the first episode of true crime garage off the record this is your captain speaking in this episode we talk
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a lot about the case of Amy Mahalo Vic if you haven't listened to that episode it's episode number 22 all of our old
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episodes are available through the stitcher app for free why because stitcher is freaking awesome
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this conversation happened after the recording of the Kendrick Johnson case the beers were flowing and I got about
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two hours of this conversation so this conversation will come out in about four parts hope you enjoy
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she is mates [Applause] [Music] [Applause] alright I'm sipping on some bourbon well
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I gotta tell you about this captain because mm-hmm here's the thing you know when you and I covered the ami Mahalo
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that cold case probably our best show I'm not I'm not actually on that episode but hey and maybe that's why it's our
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best show well to be honest well I got to thinking about this last week because I drove up to the Cleveland area and I
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was having lunch with our good friend James Renner and bro-date the thing about it was I as I was driving up there
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a couple things occurred to me one I realized that you know back then we were only doing one episode we we rarely
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would we cover a case for more than one episode back then and those were the glory days well you know what at the
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time maybe it felt maybe it felt right you know I think looking back I I would have said back then Amy's only one
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episode well I started digging into her case again because that's that's one of my you call them red light cases that's
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one of my red light cases that I've been dragging around with me for years well it's always with me but everybody's
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calling it red light cases now I started a thing something just just so you know
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I mean I think watching Nancy Grace the other day and she was late my red light case my red light case now is so I'm
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just saying everybody's using this you jump on board well I am I'm fully onboard mm-hmm so you're driving to
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Cleveland just take 70 one-way oh well I kind of got a start start back a little
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bit okay tell me I used showered and yeah so but no I knew I was going up there in advance so I started I had some
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free time and I started I couldn't help myself I started looking into Amy's case
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again and I got more angry and more angry as I do when I look into this case for many reasons and you know I'll go
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through those later but I should talk to somebody though about your anger issues no well I'm knowing that I was
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going up to okay so Renner calls me and he says look can you come up I want to to ask you some questions about
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podcasting I said okay no problem I'm like first off I'm like I don't I don't think he's contacted the right guy he
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really should have contacted the captain but yeah but you know what's it's so funny though because I mean the amount I
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still get a ridiculous amount of either hate mail or crap on our blog or iTunes and it's like I mean we should just put
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a disclaimer like that the show is produced by the dumb guy right do you want me to agree with you here cuz the
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the I feel like I'd be confirming you're the dumb guy if I'm like yeah you're right yeah I'm I'm good at all the other
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stuff other than talking right so okay okay so so Brenner called you he wanted to talk about podcasting and and you
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know me I always have an agenda I'm like this is perfect I have a coach I have a
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couple of Amy mahalo Vick questions that I want to ask him once I get there face
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to face he won't be able to get out and I will I will he'll be forced to talk to me right so I
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Drive up there hold on it's my favorite thing is when Renner runner came all the way from Cleveland