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chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] many of us know the extraordinary power
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of a well-written letter words are the only tool we have to precisely convey the concepts in our
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minds words are one of the best tools we have to express the feelings we are experiencing in both mind and body
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one can use the extraordinary power of a letter to tell you what is in their heart
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here's a powerful letter that I recently reviewed that moved me and it reads I'm writing to you with all my heart and
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a broken one at that my brother Jason Dale Bolton was killed on August 21st 1991.
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he was 16 years old he was killed in Indiana near the Fayette Franklin and Rush County lines
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my family and many others believe with all of our hearts that he was murdered his Killers did a good job to make it
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look like an accident sadly there was not a comprehensive investigation by police
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his killers were drug addicts child molesters rapists and pedophiles most of the people that were involved
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have been in prison for such things in the years after Jason's murder we believe the police got their
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information from the people responsible for the crime and cover-up Foul Play had to be suspected in his
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death at that time we believed so but did not know the facts until years later however
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based on the lies told at that time they ruled it an accident Jason my brother was killed at the age
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of 16 years old in a most horrific way the very people responsible lied to the police and the police based
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their conclusions on these untruths my family has tried to get this case investigated for years
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we have suffered Jason's death is now on the back burner and left there the facts of the case weren't a thorough
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investigation [Music] with the help of others I am trying to get America's Most Wanted FBI and others
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involved I'm begging you for your help please put an end to our suffering for justice
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my brother was with the wrong crowd these were our neighbors and people we grew up with
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I only want the truth he was murdered and we need these people brought to justice as does society
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his Killers have lived lives of hideous crimes they should be taken out of society
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please do not allow them to continue their ways my family has suffered all these years
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instead of them they have made a mockery of our justice system I ask again for your help in this matter
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please help us find Justice I have documentation to support my beliefs which I long to share if you
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will find it in your heart to investigate I pray that you will put me in touch with the right people I have so much to
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share I need someone with an open mind heart compassion and empathy my desire is for the truth to come out
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I have no problem for giving law enforcement for their mistakes that is not what this is about as we
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made our mistakes in Jason's life as well please allow your heart to open up an honest investigation into Jason's death
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this is all we ask what you just heard are portions of a letter written by one of Jason's family
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members someone who is begging for help this it's true crime garage [Music] this week we have a case for you that is
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unique in many ways I have said time and time again on the show that all of these
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cases are unique they are all very different from one another if the case is featured here in the garage it is a
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story that must be told this story is tragic no matter what your opinion of the case is it is most certainly one
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that bears further examination Jason Dale Bolton age 16 was killed August 21st 1991. that was a Wednesday
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he was out that night attending a party with a bunch of his friends or at least people that he believed to be his
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friends he was killed in the dark early morning hours of August 21st 1991. his death was
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ruled some sort of freak accident to put it plain and simple it was said that a bunch of youngsters
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were out partying all night long they had all had a bunch to drink some of them took drugs or at least
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smoked a little marijuana and then a traffic accident led to the death of Jason Bolton
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he was the victim of a good night which led to a very bad morning that is what the law was told and that is what they
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believed and a Coroner's report did nothing to change that Jason's death was ruled an accident of the vehicular
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variety Jason was killed after being struck by a car on a County Road in Fayette County Indiana in the dark of
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the night well like we said Jason Bolton was 16 years old but who was he leading
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up to this night in question that's right Captain he was born just 16 years prior in Connersville and was a lifetime
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resident of Laurel Indiana Jason Bolton attended Laurel Pentecostal church and as a little boy Laurel Elementary and
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then Brookville middle school and this is a very small community very small rural community Jason was survived by
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his parents Gary and Margie Boyer and his grandparents Luther and Alpha Raider here
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he's also survived by his two brothers and four sisters now sadly when someone passes away at such a young age
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typically their obit will list many more survived by names than proceeded in death by and Jason's list 10 as survived
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by and zero in the other column Services were to be held the day after the obituary was printed up in the
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Thursday August 22nd 1991 edition of the Palladium Item newspaper Services were held Friday August 23rd at the Laurel
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Pentecostal church with the Reverend Ed Seeley officiating burial is in the Laurel North Cemetery
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and as sad as it was that is how it was and how it would be for a couple of years but Jason's family they were never
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fully satisfied with the explanation that they received from law enforcement and others about Jason's death and the
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events of the night leading up to his tragic end for starters the family was told that
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Jason was walking to his father's home after a party well on the surface Captain this may
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sound reasonable however the family says not only did Jason not reside with his father the two had little to no
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relationship at all Jason was estranged from his father right Jason lived with his grandparents and if Jason was intent
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on reconciling with his father well then that would have been surprising news to most if not all of
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Jason's family right and basically what law enforcement is saying is Jason's out
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partying with some friends he's intoxicated now he's looking for a place to stay they believe he was heading on
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foot to his father's house and a big problem we're going to have here in this case Captain is the lack of
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detailed information in this case the family was told that on this walk from the party to his father's residence
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that due to intoxication Jason and another boy or another young man both decided
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that it was a good idea to lie down in the middle of the road and that the boys must have fallen asleep
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as it said in the newspaper Jason was struck by a car but you hear the previous statements and
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it's clear he was run over this is starting to sound all too familiar isn't it Captain yeah we just
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need a one Bill Clinton and a one Fami Malek well it's one thing to be intoxicated and walking on a dim Road
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and possibly being struck by a vehicle driven by somebody that is also intoxicated
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but it's pretty far-fetched for me to hear a story where you go well they're so intoxicated and so tired that they
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decided well we'll just uh lay down on the road for a while right I'm I'm not very proud
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to report that in my teenage years I had a lot of friends the not very proud part
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is some of them were quite dumb some of them were quite creative and some of them regularly intoxicated however I did
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not have any friends that were the perfect combination of all three I did not have a friend that was dumb enough
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creative enough and drunk enough all at the same time that he would decide that taking a little snooze in the middle of
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a county road is a good idea especially in the dark all right let's go through the official
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record here this is from the coroner's report the coroner at the time Captain is a man
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by the name of Joseph Todd and we also have contributing to this report or the information in this report is Deputy
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Sheriff Murray and Trooper Todd fields and it's stated in the report that the time of death for
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Jason Bolton is listed at around 3 A.M the time pronounced death is at 4 20 A.M and the circumstances surrounding the
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death is as follows It is believed that the deceased and a friend and he is listed here will just give his first
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name Timothy have been visiting and drinking beer they decided to walk to the decedent's father's house on County
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Road 750 South upon doing so it is believed that the two boys became tired and sleepy due to
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alcohol and the late hour and stopped to rest it is believed that the boys fell asleep or passed out on the County Road
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and we're in the roadway when a vehicle driven by a one Mr Grimm Came Upon them Mr Grimm told Trooper fields that he
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thought that he saw a person in the road and drove left to avoid him this not seeing the second person on the
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other side of the road Grimm's vehicle struck the deceased the front left tire struck the deceased
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in the groin area causing severe trauma and loss of tissue the body was pushed down the road for a
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short distance and then passed over the body crushing the rib cage on the left side and fracturing the skull in two
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places the deceased had no ID on his person and was later identified by his sister at
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the hospital morgue the cause of death here is listed as massive internal injuries and internal hemorrhaging
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the body was released to a funeral home at 8 A.M that morning the 8 A.M the morning of this report and the
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investigation as far as the coroner's report States is done by Fayette County coroner Joseph E Todd yeah it doesn't
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make a lot of sense to me unless you can prove through like a toxicology report that maybe there's some other drug
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involved where these guys would just you know pull a Wizard of Oz where we were just gonna lay down for a while before
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we hit the Emerald City it just doesn't add up to me and if you were getting tired why
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wouldn't you just go into the grass and go to some kind of level of safety I mean instead of just growing well I'm
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just going to lay down in the middle of the road look if there's no doubt and we
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know from other information that we've seen there's no doubt that there were substances in Jason Bolton's uh body at
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the time of his death and he was only 16 years old and so I get that kids and drunk people make
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mistakes it happens all the time this doesn't seem like a likely scenario at all even with factoring in
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dumb teenage decisions and intoxication and the thing here that's missing from this report would be statements that
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should have been if they were in fact taken at the scene when law enforcement arrived on the scene
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those statements here's some issues where you can start to see a problem with this case
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you don't have Jason unfortunately to tell us his side of the story and what took place at night
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so you are only left with the people at the scene well if they interviewed them and I keep saying if because we don't
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have any documentation that these people were interviewed right now I'm not saying it doesn't exist I'm not
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saying that police did not conduct those interviews what I'm saying here is where
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I'm from and Captain I think you will agree with me on the dumbass Phil when cops arrive at a scene or
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they are out cruising around and they see a bunch of 18 17 19 year old boys in a vehicle or arrive on a
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scene and that's the situation as well where I'm from they're suspicious of everything if if they show up and you
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are 17 to 19 uh young male and you got a vehicle you're probably getting some kind of citation even if you were
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perfectly in the right but because it's three in the morning and I smell a little alcohol on you something like
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that you're you're going to you're going to get into some kind of trouble so I'm
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a little surprised here that the spidey sense of these guys didn't go off when they're arriving on the scene going I
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might want to spend a little time here and figure out that this might not be what it appears to be or what these guys
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are telling me it is because here's where you have some problems the report specifically lists that the
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another guy according to the driver and we're calling him Mr Grimm but let's keep in mind he's only a little bit
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older than our victim here we're just calling him that so we do not use his first name
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he States in the report that I saw one person in the road so I swerve to avoid that
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person and then by accident ran over the other person in the road that I did not
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see okay all right that's your story here's the problem where's the person that was in
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the road with Jason bolt right that person was not at the scene when police arrived so either a your driver Mr Grimm
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is lying or B there was somebody else in the road or there was somebody else that
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was supposed to be at that scene when you arrived and they fled before you got there and how many people were in the
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vehicle at the time when law enforcement showed up that's what's missing from the
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report as well there was more than one person in that vehicle captain we're talking this scene should have had four
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to five individuals at the scene when police arrived and we're not saying that it doesn't exist
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but what we know from the family what we know from the community and what we know
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from the True Crime community and that's what the frustration is here is if you're going to rule this accidental
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death then the case is shut and all this information should be given over to the
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family the and so if there are interviews they should be released to the public here's the other thing that would make
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your make you question this statement okay so we have the guy one of the people that were that was
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lying in the road if we are to even believe that that's the way this went down right but according to the story
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that was fed to the police and the police it sounds like they believed it because here we sit all of these years
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later with a very questionable death suspicious death and if we're to believe that story Jason
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was lying in the road with somebody else when police arrive on the scene Jason's
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dead and the person that was lying in the road was not injured and is not present at
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the scene yeah where did they go exactly but then examine that examine that report a
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little bit more it says that it is believed that the very first sentence is that it is
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believed that the deceit the deceased and a friend and the friend is named Timothy had been visiting and drinking
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beer so by visiting there saying they were at a party and they were drinking and that is common knowledge they're
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being nice here by saying it is believed this is what's crazy you gotta peel you gotta rip through the
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lines and read through the lines of this report you don't have Jason Bolton to tell you that they were at a party and
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they were drinking he's dead you do not have Timothy who was supposedly in the road with Jason at the scene to tell you
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that he was at a party with Jason and drinking he's gone he's not at the scene you have the driver you have the driver
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and the occupants of the vehicle telling you oh they were at a party and they were drinking well how do you know that
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well we were at that same party yeah and we're friends with them or yeah we know
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them we're friends with them so all kinds of questions why do you have friends leaving the same party
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apparently going in the same direction they're not riding together it seems it's not out of the realm of possibility
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here Captain but it seems like a major coincidence that a group of a group of two leave a party decide to lay down or
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pass out in the middle of a County Road and then a group of two or three leave the party going in the same direction in
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a car and happen to run over one of those individuals and then the other individual flees the scene yeah and if
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you are able to question Timothy then wouldn't he be the one he's he's like the answer key to this test if he can tell
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us hey you know what we we uh smoked a little pot and made us both feel a little drowsy we didn't decide to stop
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on the road and to just lay down we both started feeling a certain way and I believe that we both passed out
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now if you told me that if Timothy can tell me that then I might be buying this horseshit story that this is a
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just a accident exactly and as far as the coroner's report goes Captain the only witness listed is the driver of the
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vehicle so he certainly has a dog in the fight to want to tell his version of the story yeah
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because it's either an accident or it's a thing called Murder exactly now when you review the injuries
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to our victim here it makes it even a little more even more questionable so according to the injuries here in the
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coroner's report uh it says body marks and other information number one they've listed severe Trauma from Tire okay so
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number one on the diagram of the deceased they draw what appears to be severe damage to the groin area of of the
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deceased and we know from the report that there was a lot of soft tissue damage to that area which to me look I'm not
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going to pretend to to understand the science of the of this whole thing I'm not in in forensics or any of that of
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course but he's clothed lying in the road of course there's going to be damage but the way that that damage is
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described as I don't want to get too descriptive here but to to put it plain and simple the
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all of that soft tissue area in the groin area of our victim removed from the body yeah it's a true
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crime show this you know stop pretending you know his penis was removed this is a
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horrible thing and this is why the family deserves Justice that's this is why this Boy Deserves Justice when when
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he's clothed lying in the road they're what they're stating by the report Captain is that he must have been
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lying there with his legs open and one of the tires happened to go right in there
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field goal the shot is up it's good right down the middle and I I just don't see how that works out
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making the injuries as they're described and then when you look at the other injuries they list number two crushed
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rib cage left side number three lacerated scalp and skull fractures number four abrasions the abrasions are
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to the left arm of the deceased and number five tattoo of skull and letters on of JD on the body so you would have
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information about the person on here not just the injuries listed at this portion
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of your Coroner's report again think of what our witness right our our one witness that's listed here on the report
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says that oh I saw someone in the middle of the road or on one side of the road and I swerved
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to miss them to avoid them and I ran over somebody that I didn't see who was lying on the other side of the
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road when you look at the injuries and the way that they played out if in fact the car does go over top of Jason
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hitting him first in the groin area avoiding both legs yes I get that according to the report
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he was pushed down the road for a short distance and then passed over but a lot of these injuries to me don't
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seem to line up with the tracks of tires certainly some of these injuries are from the road itself
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but I'm seeing a report here that that includes a story here and one and one is not equaling two in my
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humble garage opinion I'm glad you brought up math because like you said we only have one eyewitness account there
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was more than one person there we should have more than one eyewitness account and so therefore the family the
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captain now we do have to point out something here and we've said this is always a problem for law enforcement and
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that's why criminals do what they do when law enforcement arrive on the scene here they think that they are responding
00:33:45
to a vehicular accident a tragic one that resulted in the death of one of the people at the scene
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but you have to investigate further and we have no proof that they did any of that and I firmly believe had they done
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that they might have stumbled upon something else now we know that this is difficult for
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law enforcement it has been since the beginning of time and it will be for the until the end of days that's why when
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somebody kills someone in a home they burn the house down we've seen how that works out and it works to the
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disadvantage of law enforcement we've seen that sometimes a would-be kidnapper forces or or tricks a child into leaving
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a note for Mom and then later it's an abduction situation we've seen situations where Ransom note
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ever involved in the mo for the criminal so these things are always complicated for law enforcement we need to point
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that out as we go through this because they're showing up on the scene and it sounds
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like we only have two people responding to this scene and we're talking about of a vehicle death
00:35:15
a roadside death here and or like we said this is a very small community but this is a tragic accident there should
00:35:24
be more law enforcement involved here's the other issue too you have your one witness
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he tells you that well the the two people that were in the road they were at a party they were drinking well where
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were you I was at the same party I was drinking um and the the person in my vehicle was
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was there as well right away you go oh all four of you came from the same party well first off
00:35:52
that's a little weird but not out of the realm of possibility here's your other question
00:35:56
you know the other guy that was in the road okay where is he where might I find him so I can get a statement tonight
00:36:02
from him right I'm not saying that anybody's done anything wrong here I'm saying this could be a an accident a
00:36:09
horrible accident but I need to get a statement from that individual as well I don't know where he is he he fled when
00:36:16
we call when we called you guys he fled he took off okay well where may he be and oh by the way
00:36:22
who was hosting the party that you all came from I need to talk to the person hosting the
00:36:28
party I need to get a list of names of people that attended the party I can get that I would want to get a list of names
00:36:34
of people that attended that party from the two people in the vehicle the driver
00:36:39
and the passenger I would want to get a list of names of people at that party from the other guy
00:36:44
that was in the road supposedly in the road with Jason passed out I would want to get a list of names of people at that
00:36:51
party from the host whoever hosts the party and cross-reference those names and I want to talk to every one of those
00:36:58
people the other problem here with this case and and pointing in the idea that one of the issues I have with this case
00:37:07
is you go while these guys went to the same party are they friends and you go actually they are part of a pretty close
00:37:16
small circle and so this these friends got separated did they attend the did they attend the
00:37:24
party together because if they did then did they leave the party together nailed it that's the
00:37:31
most important thing right there because the rumor mill in this story has been that there were people at that
00:37:38
party that saw these people leaving together okay so here's here's where I have an issue with everything
00:37:46
together or the other problem would be even just leaving at the same time because if you
00:37:53
got two dudes on foot and two dudes in a car they don't end up at the same spot in the road at the same time nope
00:38:00
now if you have four Dudes leaving together all in a car and two of them end up in the road and
00:38:06
one of them ends up run over we have another problem so that's where the statements in the
00:38:13
lack thereof written documentation of these statements gets in the way of a real true understanding of what happened
00:38:21
that night well and I'll repeat we're not saying that these don't exist they're just they have not been
00:38:28
given to the family and when the family has been questioning this questioning this since 1991.
00:38:38
it's a long time the family has received some of the reports in some photos but not enough to
00:38:48
to rally the troops and get another investigation into this case and that's what I think needs to be done
00:38:56
here my problem is that we've talked about this time and time again captain the other killer is time time is the
00:39:05
killer of evidence and a lot of time has expired in this case the the two documents that we have that
00:39:13
we can review the information on there doesn't add up to me the the the injuries as described
00:39:20
does not add up the report of the one witness who is the driver we know that there was a passenger in the vehicle
00:39:27
there's no mention of him in that report at all or him giving a statement and if it's not clear to everybody
00:39:35
the one witness that we have the statement from he obviously has agenda because if it's
00:39:43
not an accident it's murder and he goes to jail and you know I would argue that he has an agenda even if it is an
00:39:49
accident yes given that he's partying that night that's Reckless Behavior in itself because if they were walking
00:40:00
and he didn't see them because he was intoxicated and he hit them he would be responsible for their death
00:40:08
but his story is they passed out in the middle of the road it's an accident because they passed out in the middle of
00:40:14
the road they're responsible for their own death we do have some rumors coming out of this party saying that this group
00:40:20
of individuals came together and left together but there's also rumors that there was a confrontation or maybe
00:40:27
possibly multiple confrontation at this party yeah and this is where the story gets even more wonky because we
00:40:35
have these unnamed eyewitnesses that give different accounts of what may have happened that night at the party
00:40:43
and some of the Witnesses believe that whatever happened whatever type of altercation that may have led to this
00:40:54
took place after these four individuals including Jason left the party together the other version is that some kind of
00:41:01
altercation took place at the party and the four of them left together however Jason left in the trunk
00:41:10
of the car with the other three want to drive her and two passengers the story being here that if it is not
00:41:21
what it was said to be by the people at the scene by the driver of the vehicle and by what police
00:41:28
ended up believing then it is the murder of Jason Bolton covered up by running him over with this
00:41:37
vehicle and what we need again is the statements from the people at this party because
00:41:44
what what the rumors are and what they have been for all of this time is that uh some type of fight broke out or a
00:41:52
disagreement took place prior to the four of these individuals leaving and then come Sun up one of them's Dead one of
00:42:02
them is being identified by a family member at the county morgue and the other three are sleeping safe
00:42:11
and sound at home in their beds and just so we're clear we have some individuals
00:42:15
at this party saying that they didn't see confrontation so if there was a confrontation it must have happened when
00:42:21
these guys left together then there's another group at that party that claims that there was a
00:42:28
confrontation but that confrontation to happen at the party yeah and it's very weird here too with the coroners report
00:42:34
Captain because one of the things that the state in the coroner's report is that an autopsy was not conducted
00:42:41
however it stated that a toxicology tests were conducted on the decedent and in the toxicology report it's reported
00:42:51
that the alcohol was found in his system as well as Xanax Xanax was also reported
00:42:58
by others or rumored to be part of the evening's festivities if you will for that party
00:43:07
but I find it a little curious that one would not conduct the autopsy but then send off for the toxicology report it's
00:43:16
almost like well if we can confirm that he was intoxicated then that further bolsters their store for their
00:43:26
backs up their story right the of of the statements that we did get the statements that we did take that night
00:43:33
he was messed up and he laid down in the middle of the road it would make more sense to me if you're
00:43:39
sending off for for Toxicology to also conduct the actual autopsy this is a small area as you pointed out
00:43:49
Captain this is not an area where they're overrun and can and have a backlog of of people
00:43:57
that they need to conduct an autopsy on the the other issue and this is one thing that is good
00:44:03
this is this is a horrible story but one thing that is good here is that back in
00:44:11
the day and in this this was true for damn near every County in the this country
00:44:20
but at one time you had coroners and then at another time a lot of that started morphing into you had medical
00:44:28
examiners instead of a corner well the coroner system under the corner system you don't have to have any
00:44:38
medical background at all you're you don't have to be a doctor in fact most of them were not doctors especially in
00:44:45
rural communities and they were simply either elected officials or they were appointed
00:44:52
officials and we saw that with the boys on the tracks case with with your boy Fami
00:44:59
Malek and and all the problems that that created that he was not uh in in our opinion certified or or he would not
00:45:09
hold that position today oh right and then after his his bad reporting they just gave him a
00:45:16
raise and uh gave him a promotion shuffled him off to a better job great job Mr Bill Clinton so here in this
00:45:25
situation we have a very similar situation now I don't know what the credentials of this Joseph E Todd are
00:45:34
but what I do know is he's not a doctor and I do know that he's a County coroner
00:45:38
and not a medical examiner and so where I say there is some good A lot of that in this country has changed
00:45:46
throughout different states and throughout different counties in many of those States and and I I can't get into
00:45:52
all the complicated problems with the old boy the old coroner system uh yeah but his report might not be that
00:46:01
far off true but but his report is not telling us what the intent was and and the intent really becomes from those
00:46:10
eyewitnesses at that party if you tell me Well we had three guys that left but if you tell me that we have eyewitnesses
00:46:18
from that party that said four individuals left but one of them was put in a trunk
00:46:22
just just that alone you're gonna tell you're going to have law enforcement tell me that somehow they released that
00:46:29
guy from a trunk uh one of the other passengers get out they decide to walk ahead uh
00:46:36
far enough ahead that they get drowsy and they decide to fall asleep in the middle of the road
00:46:42
far far enough ahead where the the driver and the other passenger then hit them when they're lying in the road none
00:46:51
of it really makes a lot of sense and and then so when you have these eyewitnesses saying hey they all left
00:46:58
together yes we don't have statements from everybody but the statements from the
00:47:03
driver what is he staying saying happen is he just just outright denying what the eyewitness has said and that's why
00:47:13
there's so many questions in this case and I just don't think it's fair for the family at all you're exactly
00:47:20
right and I think that's where in fact the problem lies right you are right Captain this corner his report goddamn
00:47:28
could be the best that he could do however the report what's clear to me is incomplete
00:47:37
and furthermore I what I suspect happened here is that law enforcement arrived on the scene they interviewed
00:47:44
who was left at the scene and took their statements and chose to believe them and did not investigate any
00:47:51
further yeah this case is so wonky donkey Dicky Wicket and I think that very quickly had they gone that step I'm
00:47:59
not even going to call it an extra step because it's the appropriate step that should have been taken had they just
00:48:04
taken that appropriate step I think they would have found some Witnesses that would have had statements that
00:48:12
would make you that would either completely contradict Mr Grimm's statement or would make you question his statement
00:48:20
because again if the four left at the same time this should not have happened it that car was not going slower than
00:48:27
the people walking if they left at the same time in the vehicle together this should not have happened how did the two
00:48:32
guys end up in the road and scratch that how did Jason end up in the road because
00:48:37
I don't believe the other dude was in the road at all if all four of them left together in the vehicle right and then
00:48:43
the other version of that story is the four of them left together and Jason Bolton was in the trunk of that car he's
00:48:51
a freaking hostage he's a he's abducted by this point and he's 16 years old yeah and if law
00:48:58
enforcement actually believes this [ __ ] story that they're putting out then like I said they owe information to
00:49:04
the family in the community and and case closed right but you haven't provided that information you provided some
00:49:13
but I I also don't think it's fair in a sense to say well this is uh this is the report that the police gave
00:49:23
us and maybe that was the report at the time that doesn't mean that there's other police officers that have been
00:49:29
involved in this investigation or in this investigation that think that there might be more to the story but they just
00:49:37
can't prove it I mean if you have individuals fleeing the scene and you're not you're not able to
00:49:44
question them at that time or later on when you go to question them they're not giving you any information
00:49:51
it could be simply we think we know what happened we think parts of this story are [ __ ] but
00:49:59
you gotta be able to prove it right and I think that you are spot on with 99.9 of that statement and the only part of
00:50:09
it that is weird is I think that you know you're using for a lack of a better term investigation what it looks
00:50:17
like to me and I think you will agree with me Captain is not much of an investigation at all and two people on
00:50:24
the scene two law enforcement officers on the scene that night I mean this is horrible it's a 16 year old kid that was
00:50:31
run over it's horrible if it's an accident it's even more horrible if it's a murder but
00:50:38
either way he deserved the family deserves more than two Law Enforcement Officers
00:50:44
showing up and trying to figure out what happened because like we've said over and over you don't have to be the
00:50:50
smartest person in the room you don't have to be the smartest person at the scene but
00:50:56
if we were law enforcement and we showed up to that scene and we think we both uh you know find
00:51:06
ourselves to be very intelligent and most of the time we think we're right about everything
00:51:10
but we still would call for backup would still call other people in to investigate this crime scene or
00:51:20
this accident scene and we would get that list of names of the people at that party List names of the people at the
00:51:26
the scene that should have been at that scene and we would go and talk to each one of them and that's where I think
00:51:31
that there's well would also try the beer and and give it a three and a quarter star three and a
00:51:38
quarter bottle caps and I think they did question some of these people but where
00:51:42
are the reports right where are the statements if if this in fact is an accidental death that's all public
00:51:49
record uh especially at this point but it should have been public record to the family
00:51:54
at that time as soon as that that determination was made and as soon as there was no investigating going on and
00:52:03
had that been the case look here's the problem that you have with a lot of these cases okay boys on the tracks
00:52:10
there there's another very similar story of some adult males that were killed in
00:52:16
Oklahoma lying on railroad tracks here the narrative is that two boys were lying in the road in all scenarios the
00:52:24
the the boys are men are to be passed out so high or so drunk that they just fell asleep in a location that would end
00:52:33
up with one or two of them being run over by a train or by a vehicle right and the problem with these stories is
00:52:42
that if in fact it is ruled an accident we've seen this time and time again you rule something in accident it's very
00:52:50
difficult very difficult for people for citizens to go in and get that changed to go in and get that ruling changed
00:53:01
because many often the time Captain you're not going to get an additional investigation or even an
00:53:09
investigation until you get that changed and the problem here is that nobody questioned this
00:53:23
the family just like boys on the tracks in Arkansas just like the story in Oklahoma
00:53:32
family questioned it later keep in mind they are mourning the loss of a loved one
00:53:38
they are shook to their core they're not thinking clearly they're not questioning Authority
00:53:46
in the moments the minutes the hours after the death of their loved one no they're hurt they're heartbroken
00:53:53
and there's no media there's no newspapers there's no reporter sniffing around going uh you know this is
00:54:02
something that we should report on because it was a murder it was a homicide no with an accident they
00:54:08
typically write it up in the newspaper once they tell the story on the news once and everybody starts the grieving
00:54:15
process and then we move on so then there's no documentation when you try to go back back retroactively
00:54:24
and figure out what may have actually have happened there there's there's nothing for you to
00:54:30
review yeah because it's possible that this was an accident it just didn't go down the way
00:54:36
the person responsible for the accident is telling us it went down because think about it maybe he left oh
00:54:43
these guys were being [ __ ] so I let them out of my car and they took down the road they took off down the road
00:54:49
well we stayed in our car for a while and drank some more booze and and did some more pills and then we took off and
00:54:57
I passed out at the wheel but I think there's a bunch of stuff in this case that would easily be able to tell us
00:55:05
some answers one did they go to the party together right did they leave the party together when they left
00:55:14
um where in the vehicle were these individuals like you said if two took off on foot
00:55:21
and two took off in a car well did they leave at the same time or not and then also why don't we have a
00:55:30
statement from the other boy that supposedly was passed out in the middle of the road
00:55:36
exactly and again I'm not to just keep going over the same information here why was the party never investigated why
00:55:44
were those individuals not statements requested from those individuals because there's only two law enforcement
00:55:50
officers that showed up and they didn't call anybody else and it was late they got tired you know they decided to lie
00:55:56
down in the middle of the road and take a nap hey you can't call anybody in we'd
00:55:59
have to pay them the other thing too here Captain is we have the time of death listed at about 3 A.M uh what we
00:56:07
do know based off of information that we've received is that it is believed and underlined this a couple times
00:56:16
because it is firmly believed that an hour to possibly closer to 90 minutes expired before
00:56:23
9-1-1 was called so one why the delay two well you have to have a delay to get your story
00:56:32
straight right two according to the information that's out there is that the the caller did not give their name okay
00:56:39
I get it panicked situation but if this information is correct and you've had 60
00:56:44
to 90 minutes you should not be full-on Panic at this point you've had some time to recoup before you called so
00:56:52
the name of the caller was never given and I guess the description of where they were to respond to this accident
00:57:00
was incorrect as well now that could be completely coincidental right that could
00:57:06
also be uh another measure taken by the perpetrator of somebody who's trying to cover up other crimes you got two
00:57:15
scenarios here as far as the 9-1-1 calls if this is called in like you said 90 minutes later well if it's called in by
00:57:24
a passerby Maybe that's the reason why the location wasn't correct because it wasn't from a local
00:57:31
then that means the person that ran over wasn't the caller wasn't the caller so unless they're injured beyond the
00:57:40
ability to go to a phone and call right that's another big question mark and here's the thing too Captain I I
00:57:47
want to try to really direct this the the direction that I think that this should should be
00:57:54
heading here and should have taken it should have headed in 1991. maybe call more than one officer to come well but
00:58:03
on top of that I don't I don't necessarily look at this and go well this was a police cover-up I think that
00:58:10
this was just not investigated I think that they responded to something else and I think that they believed
00:58:18
when they arrived what they were hearing and I I think oftentimes when you are told what the
00:58:26
call is and you are racing towards a scene and you're told why you are going to that scene sometimes you already make
00:58:33
it up in your mind that that's what I'm going to see and witness once I get there and I think they hear this the the
00:58:40
one witness statement maybe two but we don't have any record of a second witness I think they believed it and I
00:58:46
think that they didn't do any type of investigation to confirm or refute the information that they were given by
00:58:55
people at the scene and I think the toxicology report then backed up what they believed happened
00:59:02
so I think that this is not a police cover-up I think this is what you you have uh criminals and in a murder that
00:59:09
took place and the criminals covered it up and unfortunately law enforcement fell
00:59:16
for it yeah I agree with you on on some level but I I do think there's there's two paths there's there's the path that
00:59:25
law enforcement gets there there they're told this story they buy it for the most part
00:59:33
this is the story that then they are able to explain it away to the family but that doesn't mean that there isn't
00:59:41
doubt in their mind but but if they went down two rabbit holes one let's go down
00:59:47
this rabbit hold that it's accident okay we got all this information let's go down this rabbit hole that it possibly
00:59:53
was a murder well I thought I think because of the eyewitnesses fleeing and not talking to
01:00:00
them and not talking to the people at the party the invested the investigation just doesn't go anywhere it hits a dead
01:00:06
end so it's uh but it sucks because I I think they left way more questions for the
01:00:15
family than answers exactly that's exactly right and again to point out another problem here in one that's been
01:00:23
corrected the corner is not in a medical examiner in this situation we do know that this coroner has come under Fire
01:00:31
more than once for his findings or lack thereof currently his term is over and he cannot be re-elected and in fact the
01:00:39
laws in Indiana have changed and now require uh that the person in charge to be a
01:00:46
licensed medical examiner if you want to further understand the intricacies of the problems of an elected coroner or an
01:00:57
appointed coroner versus that of somebody with a a degree someone that's a doctor someone that's a licensed
01:01:04
medical examiner I would encourage everyone to check out the cadaver king and the country dentist a true story of
01:01:11
Injustice in the American South that is by Radley Balco and Tucker Carrington they they spent a good deal of time
01:01:21
explaining the problems with that situation in other situations throughout this country and in fact primarily in
01:01:32
the in the South now according to a website that unfortunately does not exist anymore
01:01:40
and I don't understand why it doesn't exist anymore but per the justice for Jason Dale
01:01:46
Bolton website the cause of death at some point was changed from accident to quote unknown or
01:01:56
unknown cause end quote with the investigation listed as ongoing but from what we've been told Captain
01:02:05
even though that has been changed I don't know when that change occurred to me I believe it was around four to six
01:02:15
years after the death so to say investigation ongoing I see here in 2023 and I I don't there
01:02:23
is no investigation that is happening in in Jason's case no and that's where I think to me this
01:02:32
leans more to the idea that law enforcement shows up maybe they buy part of the story they're doing
01:02:39
investigations eventually as more and more of the story comes out more and more rumors from locals come out that
01:02:48
they they do look into it more enough to say well this could this could have went
01:02:54
a different way and this and this might be a situation where it's not an accident but this could be a situation
01:03:01
where it is a murder but we just don't have anywhere else to go and until somebody comes forward and one of these
01:03:08
individuals comes forward and says well actually you know I I didn't pass out on
01:03:12
the road so his story couldn't be true because I wasn't passed down in the middle of the road
01:03:18
well and and to not I don't want to keep comparing this to other cases but a case
01:03:23
that many of our listeners and if you're tuning in for the first time I'm sure you're more aware of this case than you
01:03:30
are of Jason Bolton's case but look what happened in the west Memphis 3 case we know that in that case you had three
01:03:39
boys three victims three eight-year-old boys and even at the time when they are missing and then found dead
01:03:48
several of the parents were not even interviewed by law enforcement right and and I get it they are looking law
01:03:55
enforcement on that day well they were looking at the parents as victims and they chose not to interview some of
01:04:07
those parents right well then that became a big deal in that case many years later when people started to
01:04:15
question the convictions that they got in that case and we learned that somebody like Terry Hobbs wasn't
01:04:23
interviewed formally by police until what was it 2007 and the boys were killed in 1993.
01:04:33
well like you said in this case we have the cause of death it's changed years later
01:04:42
but I don't see evidence of in 92 93 94 I don't see evidence of them working any kind of Investigation right
01:04:55
and that I have a problem with that I don't think you have to get it right right away
01:05:02
and we're all human so we make missteps yep but go back double check your work find these individuals that you weren't
01:05:16
able to talk to and talk to them you know there has to be with with such a small community and so many people
01:05:25
involved because as far as we know other than Jason we believe that there's another
01:05:33
three individuals at that crime scene or accident scene so where's the investigation well and
01:05:45
the thing here too captain and many look many great people over time has said a a
01:05:51
similar quote in different ways but I believe it was John F Kennedy who said that an error only becomes a
01:06:00
mistake once you refuse to correct it and that might be what we have here in the situation they made an error as you
01:06:08
said they're human like the rest of us but going back and refusing to correct it is Injustice and your job is to
01:06:18
uphold the law protect your citizens and when you when you cannot protect them from certain evils get Justice for that
01:06:26
victim and for their families I urge anybody look the the individuals that were at that scene that day they
01:06:35
these were all young men back in 1991 they are still around they are still in the state of Indiana
01:06:42
some of them have been up to no good since 1991. I urge anybody with information to
01:06:50
please reach out understand that regimes change over years reach out to the Fayette County
01:06:57
Sheriff's Office you can call them at 765-825-1110 or you can email Sheriff Jones at Z Jones
01:07:09
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