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chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] Candace hilts who was just 17 years old
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was murdered on August 15 2006 she was described at the time as a teen mother who had an 11-month-old daughter
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Candace's family said Candace hilts had an altercation of some sort with an officer at the sheriff's office about a
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week before she was killed just days before her death the family's dog went missing M James hiltz Candace's older
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brother was a person of interest in the murder but was never charged multiple family members who have spoken out all
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say James hiltz was not the murderer and that he wouldn't have hurt his younger sister now we said yesterday Captain
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that Candace's daughter Paige was born with an illness and unfortunately a little more than six years after
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Candice's murder Paige passed away the murder investigation went cold for many years there see seem to be no new
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suspects no new clues or leads in fact it appears that despite everything said by the hilts family the Sheriff's Office
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seems to have set their sights on Candace's brother James and for much of this investigation and probably to this
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day they still believe that he did this or was in fact involved Dolores wanted the autopsy released to the public she
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believed that there was information in there in there that would clear this thing up or at least clear her son James
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mhm well the hilts family got their wish and the autopsy was eventually released
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and I'll read most of this article to you regarding this this is titled release to the public autopsy Candace
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hilts shot seven times three different types of guns could have been used this is from The Daily Record you sure you
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don't want me to stutter through it I I'll let you hold my hand um so here we go details from Candace hilts autopsy
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revealed that she was milici iously murdered this is obtained from the Fremont County coroner under the
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Colorado open records act the formal autopsy states that hiltz was found dead August 15th 2006 she was shot seven
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times total six in the head and one in the chest the autopsy also reveals that three types of guns could have been used
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in her murder and that she was shot both in the front and in the back the autopsy
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said hilts was shot from the front once in the head with a shotgun and then five
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times in the back with a gun of a small caliber she also was shot once in the chest from the front with a gun of a
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medium caliber the paths of the bullets are steeply downward back to front and left to right the autopsy States
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regarding the shotguns from the back mhm in a previous interview with Candace Candace hilts mother Dolores hiltz she
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implied that the bullets going downward seem like someone either executed her daughter or that there were two Shooters
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however the autopsy doesn't present evidence that the guns were fired at a close range or the order she was shot
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Bes yeah but there's a bunch of evidence that points that she was murdered in her
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house mhm so it have to be at least somewhat close range it wouldn't be of a considerable distance no uh besides
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detailing where Candace hiltz was shot how many times she was shot the different bullets found the autopsy also
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o details what occurred when Candace hiltz was discovered according to the autopsy Candace hiltz was last seen
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alive at noon and was later found by her boyfriend who was not named in the report the boyfriend of the deceased had
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left to go to Canon City and then drove home the report said adding that he eventually arrived at Candace hilts
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house when he heard the one-year-old infant screaming he entered the residence saw blood and picked up the
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baby who appeared to be unarmed he then went outside with the baby and took her to his
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wife oh what he took the baby to his wife but this is Candace's boyfriend according to the autopsy it's Candace's
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boyfriend yes uh this that makes zero sense so he goes in sees that his girlfriend's dead takes his girlfriend's
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baby which is not his baby and then takes the baby to his wife mhm all right that's what this document
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States um continuing on WE we'll get into this Captain there's a lot to discuss here that makes zero sense this
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man then returned to the deceased home and found the deceased placed underneath the bed unresponsive the report said she
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was pronounced dead at 5:23 p.m. now Dolores hiltz in a previous interview said that she had first found her
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daughter wrapped in a blanket underneath the bed also but didn't mention anything
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about a boyfriend finding her daughter after the evidence was discovered and reported each family member who spoke
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with the Daily Record about it and about the murder investigation all said that James hiltz did not kill Candace hilts
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okay so that's the newspaper article well that look now we have some issues because we have one Dolores she's saying
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I found my daughter she has always said that yes and then I called the police and now we have this other guy which we
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don't know his name so I don't even know what to call him okay you want me to clear all this up
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for you no I'm trying to come up with the name for this guy first I'll call him Reginal wife girlfriend combo there
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you go is that too too lengthy I'll call him Reggie for short okay so let's we there're so much ground to cover here
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Captain I'm I'm almost spinning trying to figure out where to start first of all and that's the
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pose you know all right so this autopsy did not get released to the public for many years after Candace's murder okay
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so let's be clear about that second of all this is a secondhand account we're hearing this through you know the media
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um they could have chosen to leave things out um they could have misspoke on certain things I don't get the vibe
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that that happened but I do want to be clear this is a secondhand account of this autopsy it's not us looking at it
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with our own eyes right now why is it important that this autopsy didn't come out for many years for several reasons
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one is that Dolores hiltz said for years that when she would think about the case
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she would go to the Sheriff's Office and she would look through the case File stating that the case File was about
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2,000 pages and with in that case File was the autopsy well good for her you know good for her but I I don't know
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what what's going on over at that Sheriff's Office either she is has misspoken um to put it politely or
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they're letting people involved in the Inner Circle of a victim look at a case File it that seems like strange doings
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to me um now regardless she has said to the media for many years you know there's something strange going on here
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the Sheriff's Office might they're either hiding something or they might be involved in this murder uh get the OD
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opsy because I've read it this is her words I've read it once you read the autopsy it's going to it's going to
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present things in a different light and you're going to see what I'm talking about well what it presents is that we
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don't know if Flores was telling the truth or not about finding the daughter that's what it right proves right which
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is so that's so weird to me okay so first of all you have this situation where it almost sounds like Dolores is
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lying about finding her daughter and let's be clear clear I mean we understand that that her daughter died
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and that she's probably doing everything that she can to figure out how this happened but you know we have to point
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out the obvious things so I don't want some thing saying well they're victim blaming no we're not we're trying to
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look through this thing this thing is look Captain we stepped in it this week all right I'll tell you that we stepped
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in it this thing is a mess yeah you stepped in it and you brought into the garage and I'm going to have to get out
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that bleach and I'm going to have to do a lot of cleaning this week so I I look I apologize that there's so much to sift
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through here but comes walking in with his night costume on swinging his sword everywhere it's embarrassing anyway so
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we have Dolores who is telling the media to seek out this autopsy now if in fact
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she had seen the autopsy in advance and is telling the media to seek it out well
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that makes me that makes me believe she has nothing to hide from what they're going to find in the autopsy yeah and I
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think that's her actions time and time again though is that she really doesn't have much to hide so that's where I you
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got to start believing some of the stuff that she says cuz why would she be pointing at evidence that you know makes
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her look in a bad light oh and you know what I kind of I kind of poo pooed on the sheriff's department there and I
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misspoke okay so just I want to be clear cuz I just reviewed my notes Here uh it
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says that she stopped by the public defenders office on several occasions and reviewed the case File there which
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which contained an autopsy report okay okay so little different right right a little different there um all right so
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the first question is who actually found Candice was it this was it this boyfriend who then took the baby back to
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his wife Reginal yeah Reggie takes the baby back to his wife and then goes back and finds Candice here's the clear-cut
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problem with this whole situation it can't be both there's no way that this thing could get misconstrued to being
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being both because in both stories it's one completely different person by themselves finding the baby and then
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finding the the Candice no it's not my friend because he has this baby he finds the baby and he drives back to his wife
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mhm yeah where's her alibi okay just just paint this picture he shows up with his girlfriend or with his wife
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his girlfriend's house they they murder her right okay who finds the body oh the guy that murdered her what a
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convenient cover up well and then whose Alibi is who oh my wife's Alibi we didn't kill my girlfriend and
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there was two people involved in the murder I'm just saying just putting that out there as a Poss
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well I know that we named this guy Reggie but the reports that we see regarding the autopsy they do not name
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this guy they do not name his wife now what Dolores would would tell the media is that this is just one of several
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problems with the autopsy itself well you're right but there's that's also several problems with the investigation
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because we have no name of this person so and we also have factual evidence that law enforcement Left Behind
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evidence well so so we know that they have bonked up this case a little bit they you know they they gummed up the
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pipes right so what happened with this guy well the autopsy itself could say his name the the newspaper that released
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this information may not have felt like they could release his no no that's fair
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um I'm guessing that the that his name appears in the autopsy but what I'm stating is that we have evidence that
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Pro proves that they're incompetent on certain levels of this investigation and that might have been an Avenue where
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they put their blinders on and they go you know what girl ends up dead and we we've been looking for a crazy brother
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he's our number one suspect well your number one SP suspect might be the guy that's taken a baby to his wife that he
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got from his girlfriend his dead girlfriend's house maybe that should be your first number one suspect that would
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be mine well Dolores says that this was was not Candace's boyfriend first of all
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that that that was something that they just got wrong that she didn't have a boyfriend okay okay this is just getting
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so second of all second of all the the person that they are talking about is not married so there's there's several
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there's several problems with that statement in the autopsy this according to Dolores however she states that this
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man was a friend of a neighbor uh I'm sorry I said that wrong was a son of a neighbor who was asked to drop by the
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house to check on Candice and the baby there here's the problem though that's as far as an explanation as we get from
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anybody okay okay so you clear it still doesn't explain who found the body who found the body you're exactly right or
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where the baby was when the body was found it doesn't explain any of that and and only one of those stories can be
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true it's not it's not a mesh of the two stories it doesn't work it doesn't work
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for this for this situation no not at all I would love for somebody to clear this up because the problem we have is
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like I said both stories don't work here one of one is right and one is wrong and
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for you to prove to me which one is correct Dolores I would like to know the name of this guy that you asked to drop
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by the house to check on Candice and the baby maybe he can confirm that this is what actually took place and back back
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up your story that you were in fact the person that found the baby and Candice yeah or or police could confirm this as
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well and that's what I'm getting it Bo both sides should be should come out here and tell us what the heck is going
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on because there's something very strange and fishy going on and it to me it almost looks
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like I almost question both sides at this point yeah it seems like some weird actions on both sides but what is
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dolores's thoughts on what happened to her daughter okay so while we're on the topic of the autopsy this is perfect
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timing she states that there are at least two gunmen uh it seems to me like that's the one thing that they can agree
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on the sheriff's department in Dolores or gunman Gun Woman yep she says that um she believes that her daughter was shot
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simultaneously from two directions and was dead before she hit the floor now keep in mind she was shot inside the
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family home and this is is also where the simultaneously being shot at Theory comes from MH cuz it's there's really no
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proof of this yeah now she states that she that Candace had two shotgun wounds one to the back of the head and one to
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the left of the back of her head um she had 8 to 10 22 caliber gunshot wounds in
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her left side delor said when they were dragging her body down the hall she thinks that Candice had some death
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trimmers and that her head would have touched the doorway and left a wavy blood pattern on the door she believes
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that a shooter then reloaded the shotgun and shot Candice again in the chest because according to Dolores um there is
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a gunshot on Candice that is listed as an afterdeath wound well this is some crazy CSI [ __ ] well and I hate to keep
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harping on this but we have a situation Captain where either the autopsy is wrong that the things in the autopsy are
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wrong or Dolores is wrong yeah we get it there's some conflicting stories now one
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thing I should point out in that I would put in dolores's favor here is that back
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in January of 2007 uh Dolores filed a formal complaint with the State Attorney General's office alleging mismanagement
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of the crime scene complete with copies of all of the pictures that she took uh she also included her theory that a law
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officer could have been involved in her daughter's death right now now tell me what person in their right mind would
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have been involved in this and then brought a spotlight a big Spotlight on this case and by the way when I bring
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the spotlight underneath that Spotlight I'm going to give you all the evidence right if you're if you're involved you
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don't do stuff like that right it seems to me that she's being very transparent she's allowing everybody to see into
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what's going on uh I point that out with with this incident now that nothing Becomes of this of her formal complaint
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but she is taking it to one of the highest offices that she can and presenting evidence and presenting a
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story which like you said could end up with her being investigated um so she must have felt
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confident in her beliefs of what had had occurred um and again she encouraged enaged the media to seek out this
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autopsy so maybe even though these stories aren't lining up she is maybe she feels she's honest therefore she has
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nothing to hide an honest man an honest woman has nothing to hide right right and she's being very forthcoming with
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everything yeah and you know I mean this this is just speculation just a little speculation
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just a little birdie told me this little story that possibly the person that performed this autopsy was related to FY
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Malik that just is what a bird told me I I'm hoping one day FY quits appearing in
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every every show that we do I I I generally believe that most of these coroners are doing a great job medical
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examiners doing a great job and that we're and that's where the real facts where you get the real facts from um so
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I if if we you know when we tell his story the story about FY Malik and everything he screwed up it makes it
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look like this could be going on everywhere and I hate I can't live my life like walking around no no no it the
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what I'm saying here is you know this autopsy which she is pointing to she's saying take a look at this there might
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be one or two inconsistent things in it but the overall picture is there and I think maybe that's what she's saying is
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well yeah they didn't get that right but who cares MH you know cuz it does it really matter if she found the body or
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he found the body like the evidence within the body and that's what the autopsy is that's probably the most
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important evidence here right I mean I at the end of the day it doesn't matter but it it's something that should be
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clear no no it should be clear but what I'm stating is that you know even with that unclearness she's still saying hey
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you need to take a look at this because there's enough evidence here to to to go
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with her Theory or to go into the fact that there should be more of an investigation and this was a situation
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we see this time and time again where law enforcement they come to a conclusion and then they got their guy
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just on a different thing and he's in this hospital so he's away and he's you know he's not going to harm anybody
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right M so we got our guy and now we stop working on it now there is an interview where you know Dolores she
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isn't always just saying that the Sheriff's Office killed Candace uh or that that Dodd killed Candace and
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covered it up right you know she's not she's not stuck to that 100% all of the time and you know there is one at least
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one occasion where she did state that perhaps it was a couple of girls who were jealous of Candice and not an
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officer who had killed her daughter because of the afterdeath trimmer remember with the the afterdeath shot
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that we spoke of right where she believes that there was a death trimmer and then the killer reloaded the gun and
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shot her then her statement is that she believes a trained officer would know about death trimers and would not have
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panicked thinking that Candace was still alive and then shot her again yeah but most uh police officers haven't shot a
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person before that's true but she does bring up an interesting topic for me and this is when I review what the autopsy
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says according to the newspaper now to be clear the autopsy according to the newspaper makes it sound like Candice
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was shot in the front and in the back simultaneously right from opposite directions simultaneously I have a hard
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time believing that trained officers who are trained in in strategically moving through a home clearing out rooms moving
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through buildings clearing out rooms they're also training not to shoot at one another okay if if yeah but they're
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shooting downwards if this victim is between you and I and we're both firing at her we we run a risk of getting
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caught in some kind of Crossfire action you know that me shooting you on accident right but that being shot at
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the same time is pure speculation that is speculation and in fact actually Dolores believes that she was fact in
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fact shot on the side not from the not from two opposite directions well I don't know how much I buy this whole
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jealous girl Theory you know I I don't think that lines up to me I think if Candice said something that hit a nerve
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with law enforcement is it possible because if there was some truth to what she was saying and are they trying to
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cover up some other misdoing we've seen that in the past M there's so much more to get into and the biggest maybe Twist
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all right C we're going to shift gears here a little bit I hope you are a fan of Storage Wars because we are about to
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get into some storage locker conversation this taking place in Canon City uh the Fremont County Sheriff Jim
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Beaker said that he has placed Sheriff's Lieutenant Robert Dodd on administrative
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leave after it was reported by the pelo Chieftain that evidence in a gruesome decades old murder case was found in a
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storage unit formerly rented by DOD question leave you say mhm is he on paid leave
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well they have to investigate this and see if there was wrongdoing by uh Lieutenant DOD um a local citizen this
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is Rick ratzloff um he recently bought the contents of a storage unit in an auction
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uh that had been rented by Dodd but Dodd lost control of the unit's contents because he failed to pay the rental fees
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yeah when this citizen looked inside he found some of detective dod's old uniforms with his name badge on it he
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also found sirens and lights off of police cars and several items in envelopes marked evidence and you're not
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really supposed to take those lights and do whatever you want with them that's property of the city now Ratliff
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believed uh I'm sorry ratzliff met the sheriff and another officer at the storage unit these two officers took the
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evidence at as directed by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation now the way this
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went down is he contacted the sheriff's department and he said look I found these things in the storage unit they
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had a bit of a meeting at the storage unit and they agreed that the sheriff's department could take these items with
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them for investigation we could just play his clip if you want to no it's a terrible clip um so we have Sheriff
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Beaker confirmed in his statement that on December 30th uh this is in 2016 that he and Commander Jeff warley they did
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briefly look at all of the evidence in the storage locker and immediately contacted CBI regarding the matter with
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their consultation they cataloged photographed collected and secured the items moving them into the Fremont
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County evidence storage now on January 3rd of this year the CBI sent two agents to meet with the sheriff and they took
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all of the evidence because this is obviously an active investigation now the CBI confirmed that it is
00:31:02
investigating how this evidence came to be in a storage unit now let's talk about some of these things here um there
00:31:09
was a blanket that was recovered in the storage unit now Dolores says that this blanket is familiar to her she says that
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this is the blanket that Candace's body was in um that was the blanket that that
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she and her son Jonathan had bagged and eventually gave to the Sheriff's Office okay should they also found bloody socks
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there um in the storage unit Dolores believes that these socks were on Candace's feet when she pulled her from
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underneath the bed um they would have been taken off with her clothes with Candace's clothes when she was taken to
00:31:43
the autopsy a hatchet was also recovered in the storage lock yeah a very weird looking Hatchet yes and I I describe
00:31:52
this as like a hatchet that you would throw yeah um maybe in a circus act or something like that well kind of looks
00:31:59
like something from He-Man I'm glad you said that cuz I was thinking like Snake Eyes from GI Joe
00:32:05
something that he would throw anyway sorry we dorked it up there for a minute super dork um a hatchet was recovered in
00:32:11
the storage unit and Dolores says that this is familiar to her as well because it was one that she had owned um and she
00:32:18
stated that it probably lying outside by a wood pile and it is a weapon that was
00:32:24
used this is her opinion used to kill the family dog um the dog's name was Jackson it was a female dog um uh she
00:32:32
had disappeared 3 days before Candace's murder there was also a rope that was found this may have been the one that
00:32:39
was used to tie Jackson to the tree so the dog was taken to a back hill tied to a tree and axe all right okay if someone
00:32:48
had now this is dolores's words if someone had tried to break in the dog would have went
00:32:55
ballistic now uh CBI officials confirmed that they are investigating the recovery
00:33:01
of the evidence in the storage facility now but isn't that something that maybe only the the family would know about the
00:33:08
dog going ballistic possibly yes M or I mean sometimes people that break into homes or plan to commit crimes just
00:33:16
assume that they don't want to deal with a dog well and they also found like boxes of paperwork or something like
00:33:23
that yeah from the sheriff's office so these are all very bad things for lieutenant Dodd yeah he owns the storage
00:33:32
unit he defaults on the payments and then when it's purchased by somebody else they discover what could be
00:33:37
evidence in a murder case an active murder investigation well and I wonder if you know the term applies here I mean
00:33:45
if you can't afford to do the time or afford to pay the time on your storage locker then you can't afford to do the
00:33:53
crime or something like that there there's no saying like that at all um the the thing here is Captain we got a
00:34:01
bad situation because DOD is like you said placed on administrative leave um I believe it to be paid uh if you want to
00:34:08
feel worse about the situation I do believe that he was paid for this administrative leave he um he would
00:34:16
eventually be charged with mishandling evidence um with uh you know not doing his job properly uh for a lack of a
00:34:25
better term um he's not there's been no conviction in this situation yet he has since retired from the Sheriff's Office
00:34:33
and he course he did he's moved out of state run and hide my friend run and hide he's run he's run out I was going
00:34:41
to say moved out of state but he ran out of state um anyway this this problem doesn't really end here because then we
00:34:50
were going to fast forward to about 6 months later there was additional evidence that
00:34:56
was was allegedly connected to former Fremont County Sheriff's Office detective Robert Dodd which was found
00:35:03
and recovered from The Phantom landfill in Penrose now according to the peblo chieftain Canon City resident Rick
00:35:12
ratslof uh who also discovered evidence from a 2006 homicide in December he received a tip from The Phantom landfill
00:35:21
worker uh this is Robert Orton who said that more apparent evidence had been found from a dumpster that was collected
00:35:28
from dod's former residence Dodd had already been charged by this time with abuse of public records in two counts of
00:35:35
second deegree official misconduct after the evidence was found by Ratliff caused
00:35:41
an investigation by the CBI now since this investigation uh as we mentioned dot had resigned uh he now lives in
00:35:50
Texas uh he's scheduled to appear in court at this time that this stuff is found now what is this stuff that is
00:35:57
found well they collected a dumpster okay from his former residence okay that was full of stuff now like maybe one of
00:36:07
those Rena dumpsters before you're going to move out yeah that's what it sounds like to me and it I guess they have to
00:36:14
check for HazMat type material before they can dump the stuff well when they were checking the dumpster they found
00:36:22
what is listed as quote a fat envelope that looked like criminal investigation paperwork a videotape labeled as it as
00:36:31
containing a sexual assault investigation interview and a tackle box marked fcso crime scene unit forensic
00:36:39
lights and just to remind everybody this is the same individual that was questioning the family and Candace
00:36:46
called him out when he said that he's going to take her to jail I mean this guy shows multiple levels of
00:36:53
incompetency at the law enforcement position um I do want to note that the paperwork that was found in the landfill
00:36:59
um the official reports and paperwork that were found uh they they dated from 2003 to
00:37:07
2006 um so who knows if that included this murder investigation that would have started in August of 2006 all right
00:37:15
so what is the big problem with all this evidence coming out um well of course as
00:37:20
you pointed out not only did Dodd potentially have the altercation with Candace but he was also one of the lead
00:37:26
in investigators in her murder case right um this presents all kinds of problems
00:37:32
you know like Frank castanza says I got a lot of problems with you people and now you're going to hear about them okay
00:37:38
so we have this guy we have this guy that's not fit to be an officer at all in my opinion he's dragging down the
00:37:45
rest of the good people that do that job because like you said he's incompetent and I hate to judge a book by its cover
00:37:53
but that's all I have I'm a guy that lives a thousand miles away new but his he has this guy is he's just a sloppy lazy
00:38:06
mess is what I think this guy is um is HE capable of murdering somebody I don't know is HE capable of covering it up I
00:38:14
don't think so I don't think so I don't think this guy can I don't think he's I but that doesn't mean that he didn't try
00:38:22
and he's failing miserably now I do want to point out you know we said that has been charged with this and this has not
00:38:29
been resolved yet um if you want to have something to be angry about today I'll give you something to be angry about
00:38:35
today I'm already pissed off man I have heard some reports that they were trying
00:38:40
to work out a plea bargain with DOD I have a bazillion problems with that and everybody else should including
00:38:49
the sheriff who's in charge in Fremont County and including the district attorney that's in charge here's why
00:38:56
because if you can't trust your police if you can't trust your Sheriff who can you trust right who who do you got on
00:39:03
your side that's what they are there for that is what they are supposed to be doing and like I said this guy is a
00:39:10
sloppy lazy mess and he's dragging down the rest of the good women and men that are performing this tough very tough job
00:39:17
every day and night keeping us safe and giving them bad light and here's the thing if you if I if if I'm this dude's
00:39:25
boss all right if I'm captain chief sheriff dog in town you're Colonel I'm the captain and I got this little sloppy
00:39:34
lazy mess do he's got evidence in a storage unit he's throwing away important items uh in the landfill in a
00:39:44
dumpster what else who knows where else he threw stuff away at right you know who you know who he's making look bad
00:39:50
he's making me look bad the head dog in charge he's bringing down the whole Sheriff's Department m if I were this
00:39:57
Sheriff Beaker guy I'd be on the phone with the district attorney and I would say no you throw the book at this guy
00:40:04
throw the we need to make an example out of him for the public but more importantly for the other officers that
00:40:11
are coming up through the ranks this is stuff that even even if he wasn't trying
00:40:15
to cover up a murder even if he wasn't hiding anything this is just a sloppy lazy mess that dods sat in for years and
00:40:24
this is not how you can run any type of investigation this is not how you can run any type of sheriff's department and
00:40:30
hope to get things done well it's obstruction of justice which which is breaking the law so if you break the law
00:40:37
you should go to jail and that's what this uh scumbag deserves now is to go to jail is this stuff evidence in the
00:40:44
murder of Candice I don't know we'll get into that in a minute but regardless let's say that it is let's say that
00:40:51
these items were somehow involved or connected to the murder of Candace hilts we we have a big freaking problem here
00:40:57
now Captain because guess what problem if if I find this evidence and I find DNA evidence on this stuff that ties
00:41:05
somebody to the crime or points me in a direction that would lead me to solve the crime guess what this stuff ain't
00:41:12
going to work in the court of law because you can't any good defense attorney is going to tell the jury this
00:41:18
stuff sat in a locker in a storage unit it was not in a controlled environment it was being housed by this cop that we
00:41:25
don't know if is is a bad dude or not for years and years and years this is contaminated evidence you now can't use
00:41:32
this to convict anybody we have a case that looks to me to be in the get-go in the early get-go this case should have
00:41:39
been solvable the problem is it's unraveled and it's fell apart throughout the years and it's only gotten worse and
00:41:46
I fear I fear people and I know we've questioned Doris and and what's going on there and that situation here's the
00:41:54
thing Candice is the the victim here she deserves Justice Dolores her deserves justice as well and I fear that that
00:42:04
nobody's going to get this because of moves that have been made by the sheriff's that's just if he's a sloppy
00:42:10
mess and he's not involved but he if he's somehow involved they can still tie this in this to have evidence against
00:42:18
him and I'll be really interested to see what the CBI comes out and says you know
00:42:23
moving forward yeah I'm really looking forward to that information as well here's the thing here's my other
00:42:29
thoughts on this I know I know I got real worked up there because I do feel like Dodd regardless has done some very
00:42:35
bad things some wrong things sloppy mess now let's say let's say that this stuff
00:42:41
is not evidence in the actual Candice case right now that might be confusing for somebody listening right now what do
00:42:48
you mean by that and the well nobody has come out and stated 100% that this is stuff that was actually taken from the
00:42:56
hilts home that this was in fact the hatchet that was used to kill the dog okay here's where I call into question
00:43:03
the hatchet right you you and I described it um Dolores described it as a hatchet that she believed own that she
00:43:10
owned and that would have been near a wood pile I'm assuming it's near the wood pile because it was used for
00:43:15
chopping up wood and sticks and things like that this does not look to me like the hatchet I would pick out to chop up
00:43:23
wood right but you don't look like somebody that could chop wood I can chop wood well now here's the thing sure but
00:43:31
not with that hatchet not with that hatchet my friend this Hatchet to me this Hatchet to me looks like either
00:43:38
either something that Dolores would not have owned I don't know why she would say that that's one that I owned and it
00:43:44
was used for chopping wood I would tend to lead lean more to the side that this could be a hatchet that was stolen from
00:43:52
somebody's home by James um this looks to be more of a decorative Hatchet rather than something you would use as a
00:44:01
tool um so there's there's where I question that um you know that's where the big uproar is because everybody
00:44:09
saying that we have hidden evidence in a murder case I've not had anybody with any background come out and tell me that
00:44:17
this stuff is actually involved in that murder case what we do have as a law enforcement officer that we know for a
00:44:23
fact withheld evidence we just don't know what the evidence is for in which cases it's for so there are four major
00:44:31
theories swirling around this whole unsolved case here and I know that it's pretty obvious that we obvious that we
00:44:38
danced all over two of them but let's go through them very quickly here and I'm just you know I'm not trying to brag or
00:44:45
anything but we we look like Justin Timberlake and James Brown that's that's right anyway um so the first Theory
00:44:54
that's out there is that the father of this baby came to the house and killed Candice so this would be Paige's father
00:45:03
now there's several problems with this Theory one we don't know we don't have on record who the name what the name is
00:45:11
of the father mhm okay uh the theory would be something like this that he he was either angry with Candice or he
00:45:18
didn't want to be a father didn't want to have a baby in his life so he kills Candice this doesn't ring true to me
00:45:27
real well it it doesn't sit well with me because I don't see this person I don't
00:45:34
can't find any evidence first of all this person being involved in this baby's life for 11 months I don't know
00:45:42
if if I had fathered a child didn't want to and wasn't told that I'm the father didn't have any knowledge of this nobody
00:45:50
seeking money from me or anything of that nature and this baby's fine you know living for 11 months elsewhere in
00:45:59
the care of its mother I don't know that I would have any I why would I have any
00:46:03
ill feelings towards that situation uh yeah I get your point there I think the major thing here for me on this Theory
00:46:12
and why I don't buy it is I feel like Candice's uh family would be talking more about this Theory right that's a
00:46:19
very good point I think if if he were to be a suspect we would have heard this person's name from the hilts family
00:46:25
themselves so moving on to Theory number two that Candice was killed by strangers that
00:46:32
somebody busted into the house and killed Candice and then left seemingly with no motive at all um really I guess
00:46:40
the only thing you could come up with here is that it would be some type of Thrill Kill um but to me this seems
00:46:48
Seems targeted in a way where with most of these thrill killings from my experience they they seem to be more
00:46:55
crimes of opportunity where they stumble upon their eventual victim this to me looks like someone targeted the house
00:47:03
for some reason came in and killed her I mean somebody obviously showed up with several different Firearms showed up
00:47:10
with something used to break into the house itself and here's the other problem I
00:47:15
have I firmly believe that the death of this dog is linked to the death of Candace Candace right which would be
00:47:24
days prior right and it seems to me like that would be that's not random at all like
00:47:30
somebody would have had to stake out the house watch the house capture the dog somehow and then tie it to the tree and
00:47:38
then kill Candice later I to me that seems it it almost seems lazier than the work that uh that that Lieutenant Dodd
00:47:47
was doing yeah the only thing about this theory for me would be yeah it could have been the you know dog has something
00:47:55
to do with it like we said it was Prior but it could be could have been a situation where there's a group of
00:48:01
individuals that thought for some reason on this property was an opportunity and
00:48:07
you know they staked out the they staked out the house or whatever um but again there's really no evidence towards that
00:48:15
then obviously one of the theories also would be that her older brother James killed Candice now I know that I've
00:48:21
called into question a lot of things going on with James and and he does look like a likely suspect or somebody that I
00:48:30
would consider to be a person of interest um like I said with that hatchet that was found if if that was
00:48:37
the one that was used that looks to me like something that would have been stolen from another home I can't speak
00:48:43
uh enough to the point of what was his state of mind I don't think any of us could could fathom what he was going
00:48:50
through and how he was going to handle the situation that he found himself in but the problem I have here with that is
00:48:59
I feel like the sheriffs they circled in on this guy very quickly mhm and I almost feel like
00:49:06
if there was evidence to put this guy away they would have done so and but that's not what happened they that's not
00:49:13
what happened at all they put evidence in the storage locker now we have Dolores who will Who has continued to
00:49:22
blame uh her son's situation and the situation of the investigation on the sheriff's department and I think some of
00:49:30
that is definitely rightfully so now with her son her son James hiltz he remains at the state hospital to this
00:49:37
day he does have some off-campus privileges um but here's the thing it sounds to me I've had Dolores I've I've
00:49:46
I've read two stories from Dolores regarding her son James and where he is now one stating that you know he should
00:49:54
have been released by now now and the police keep the sheriff's department keeps returning to the hospital every
00:50:00
time he comes up for a hearing stating that he is a suspect in a murder investigation but she has also said that
00:50:08
James has chosen to stay at the state hospital so I I guess both could be true in this situation um but it seems
00:50:18
strange to hear both versions from the same person yeah my my problem with the fact that jam would be the the murder is
00:50:28
the fact that you know this murder to me the evidence points that there this was
00:50:32
done by multiple people so it would have to be James and somebody else who's that
00:50:37
other person and there's no evidence of this other person the other thing too is
00:50:41
we have no evidence of this individual being violent um now that being said I think with his mental state is it
00:50:48
possible that he actually killed the dog but had nothing to do with his sister's
00:50:52
murder that's very possible as well because because of the weapon that the dog was murdered with mhm and so that's
00:51:00
a little odd but I think the other thing too here though and when I said oh well
00:51:04
maybe the family help cover it up we have an individual that is where he needs to be for his health and his
00:51:12
mental health and knowing that and then knowing that we we might need to keep him there if if the family felt that
00:51:19
they needed to keep him there I don't think they would cover that up right right I don't think that they would
00:51:23
cover that up at all the then the other obvious one would be was somebody from the sheriff's office involved in the
00:51:31
murder or killed Candice and has covered it up well so well so many signs point to
00:51:38
yes yes they do um I one thing I struggled with here is in the beginning was I really thought that given what I
00:51:48
know about Sheriff's departments and about police activity I really felt like that if the police or Sheriff's have
00:51:55
done this that I didn't get the feeling that they would capture the dog in advance and kill it out in the woods mhm
00:52:05
you know we all know police activity we they're you know they are more than capable of busting down a door shooting
00:52:15
an animal that charges the door and then going in and taking care of business so
00:52:20
I didn't see a reason for that act to take place but then the more I get to thinking about it I question one thing
00:52:29
we had that story from basically an unknown source stating that Candice at some point had gone to the Sheriff's
00:52:37
Office to file some kind of formal complaint MH here's what I question is there a chance that maybe whatever was
00:52:46
done to that dog that poor dog that that was done as some kind of threat and what
00:52:52
I would be curious to know and we will we will never know this whatever was done to that dog did that happen and was
00:52:59
that a threat that was not received by the family because they were unaware that the dog was missing or just thought
00:53:05
the dog took off on some adventure and then Candace goes and files this report or attempts to file a report with the
00:53:12
Sheriff's Office yeah if if we knew that little piece right there I would think that all points show and sign in the
00:53:21
point to someone in the Sheriff's Office uh probably God because why did he have
00:53:28
any of this stuff to begin with why was he taking these items home why was he placing them in a storage locker that
00:53:36
seem like you're hiding them tucked away and then yet he's careless enough to default on the payments where somebody
00:53:42
can find this stuff same with the things that were collected from his home that ended up in the landfill as well those
00:53:48
are those most of those items that we talked about that ended up in that landfill those were regarding other
00:53:54
cases mhm I I just don't understand why this guy was taking anything home do I think
00:54:00
he was a shady dude I look look taking the stuff home and hiding it yes Shady dude I think he's more shady than that I
00:54:10
think he was doing some things that he shouldn't have been doing I think he was covering some of his own tracks I don't
00:54:16
know that I can say 100% that he's capable of murdering somebody and covering it up the big question for me
00:54:24
is is now can I believe let's say I believe that he he is capable of that do I believe that people within the
00:54:33
sheriff's office would have helped him that for me is where I can't make the leap I can make the leap to believe
00:54:41
that do did this doesn't mean that he doesn't know some other Shady individuals right that's true but I I I
00:54:48
I'm having a trouble making the leap that more people in the Sheriff's Office were involved in this than just
00:54:55
potentially di well we have multiple evidence you know like we said before that you know him taking evidence home
00:55:03
storage in locker that's shady stuff but whatever Candace said to him I think hit
00:55:08
a nerve and I think that if you investigate that Avenue you're going to find more answers I just lean towards
00:55:15
that there's a lot of shady stuff going on with this uh individual and like you said I think the dog was possibly a
00:55:23
warning as well and I I apologize if at any time we seemed frustrated during these episodes but this was a very
00:55:30
frustrating sorry very frustrating case to cover because there there's so many things that are wrong with this case
00:55:37
there's so many things that that you question this might be the messiest case that we've covered um yeah and look I'm
00:55:44
not one to jump down law enforcement throats I love conspiracies right mm Captain conspiracy all day long but I
00:55:54
normally don't don't fall to the line of oh this is possibly law enforcement but every so often it's
00:56:02
clear you know it's more of a clear picture and I think you saw that you know with um like boys on the tracks
00:56:09
case for example and I think here again there's I there's not enough to point a finger and saying it's this
00:56:18
guy I know it he did it but I think there's enough nuggets that if if investigated correctly um by the
00:56:26
CBI and by current law enforcement that I think that this uh family can get Justice mhm and the thing here is the
00:56:34
the hilts family God bless them they deserve as Justice good luck to them Candace deserves Justice I think I don't
00:56:42
know that we're going to get a conviction in this case it it seems a little too sloppy to me um no I think
00:56:49
they could but I think it's going to take that Community rallying around the fact that they deserve answers and they
00:56:57
deserve to have uh people that they pay to Serve and Protect Serve and Protect and not you know get in the way of
00:57:04
Justice or take the law into their own hands and it's going to take the local community constantly uh just you know
00:57:12
badgering them and being a thorn in their side and then they'll do something about it but until then they won't do
00:57:18
anything about it but what would be a huge step in the right direction for the hilts family and for everyone in that
00:57:25
community in the Fremont County area they need to prosecute Dodd on all of these charges to the fullest yeah he
00:57:33
needs to go to jail for this right and to to to the sheriff in charge out there and to the district attorney out there
00:57:40
you know I apologize if you didn't do any misdoings here this is your mess now this is this is your mess to clean up
00:57:48
and you've got to straighten out this situation that's on it's on you it's on your shoulders this is your community
00:57:54
and I hope that they do that and I hope we get some results regarding DOD and these charges
00:58:01
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