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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] try the fudge they say try the fudge I
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know what that means it's good fudge I got I got yeah I got someone you know some treats for the garage and we'll
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start bringing doughnuts every week no I'm beer and doughnuts try the fudge I'm obese no you're not the funny thing
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it's a funny thing that you mentioned fudge because I know you and I are drinking buddies but there's this thing
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called snack buddies and what that has to do with is the monster of Laurens case okay so there was this interesting
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article and it's quite lengthy I thought when I discovered this I thought I would
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bring it here to the garage today Campton and read it to you but it's very lengthy so I think I'll just kind of
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tell you what it's about so at the end of May an article came out in a magazine called Tempe it's a Italian magazine and
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also an article in a newspaper over there that I believe once translated the the title of the newspaper would be
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called the journal uh-oh you're going to say that jerk well it is called the jerk
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the interesting thing about this these articles that came out there and they're one in the same from my understanding is
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a case that we covered about a year ago the monster of Florence which is one of my one of the cases that fascinates me
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the most as far as unknown serial killers you know who could this person be who is the monster of Florence well
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the this article claims to have knowledge of who the notorious serial killer is and the crazy thing is they
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refer to this man as Ulysses and okay apparent why is that a real name so it's it's my understanding is is not a real
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name that it's just some kind of code name and I don't know if this is a code name that this person gave themselves or
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if or if the the person that did the interview came up with this name back to the alias so I'm gonna call this
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individual you Ulysses throughout the article the crazy thing though is this Ulysses person was actually referenced
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in the actual investigation for the monster of Florence so the way that this goes down now I want everybody to spend
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I need you Kempton to understand that I'm kind of at the mercy of whoever translated this newspaper article
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mmm-hmm because when you look it up it's it's an Italian magazine an Italian newspaper so when you go to look it up
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it's in Italian now there's been some people that have translated it to English and I do question if some things
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got lost in translation let's say but mind you I'm giving you information but I'm at the mercy of that whoever
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translated this article all right well let's dive into this but these we covered monster of Florence in episode
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124 and 125 so if you're not familiar with the case you might want to check those out before ya continue to listen
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so the way that the way that I understand this is that this Ulysses guy was having a phone conversation with a
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biographer the biographer wants to write a biography about this Ulysses guy in his life so at some point during these
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talks this Ulysses guy tells the biographer I am the monster of Florence and not only am am I the monster of
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Florence I'm also the Zodiac killer mmm what so say what so though - let's break
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this down because it actually it could be it is it is physically possible because so the the first monster of
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Florence killing attacked this was 1968 and there were two victims and then we have the Zodiac victims which was from
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1968 of 1968 through October of 1969 now there are some people that claim that there are additional zodiac victims but
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these are considered David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen are considered by most kind of agreed upon by all that that
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that is the first zodiac killing there is some thought that maybe that Cheri Jo Bates I believe was her name that she
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might be in fact the first zodiac victim right but physically possible seeing that the first monster killings would
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have been August of 68 right then you have the Zodiac killings from 60 from December 68 through October 69 and then
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it's not until 1974 that the monster of Florence starts killing again in Italy right so he it there's a little break
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after the one in 68 and I mentioned snack friends or snacking friends and this is where I questioned a bit of the
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translation that I've been able to come across because the there's an article the once translated refers to snack
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buddies as being guilty as the monster of Florence meaning it was like Thunder buddies well it was meaning that it was
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a group of guys and I believe one of them was tried for it and I believe he was sentenced and then released later
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they determined that he couldn't be the monster of Florence because he goes away
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to prison and the monster continues to kill so the reason why I question the translation though is this this American
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article refers to it as snack buddies and and we covered monster Florence and during that trial what the man referred
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to him and his group as were picnicking friends which I could see in a loose translation it's similar but it's not
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the same so well this I mean you know to not to debunk the theory but it's very similar to like Andy Kaufman and how he
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would dress up as Tony Clifton and Bob zmuda saputo I think it's his name when Andy passed away Bob then became
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Clifton Tony Clifton so all I'm saying oh all right whoa whoa whoa there's a little Tony
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Clifton there for you out first house it was no but then I was putrified but my my my point here is that if these were
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snack buddies or picnic picnic comrades right they would one would go to jail and one can would continue the killings
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and by continuing it then then people would start thinking that the person that's in jail we got the wrong guy
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yeah and that's certainly a possibility and here's the thing you know and I do this too you know so I don't want to
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sound like I'm condemning anybody here but Oh God I tend to do this myself I think
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sometimes we were mantis eyes some of these serial killers and their will think there was a there was a lot of
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thought so the the picnicking friends or snack buddies whatever you want to call them
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they're often referred to as this kind of group of bumbling idiots they're the Wet Bandits yeah and so there were a lot
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of people that when they put this dude on trial and when this stuff started to come out through the course of actual
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investigation people were going wait a second this monster Florence should be somebody it should be like a Hannibal
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Lecter type like some brilliant uncatchable