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Jimmy Ryce /// Part 2 /// 519

November 16, 2023 / 50:47

This episode discusses the tragic case of Jimmy Rice, including the investigation into his abduction and murder by Juan Carlos Chavez. Key topics include the discovery of Jimmy's belongings, the police investigation, and the impact on the community.

The episode begins with a recap of the search for Jimmy Rice, who went missing in September 1995. The hosts highlight the role of Suzanne Shin Housee, who discovered Jimmy's book bag and a stolen handgun in the trailer of Juan Carlos Chavez, leading to a breakthrough in the case.

Juan Carlos Chavez, a Cuban immigrant, was arrested after the discovery of the items. The episode details his interrogation, where he provided multiple conflicting stories about his involvement in Jimmy's disappearance before ultimately confessing to the crime.

Chavez admitted to abducting Jimmy at gunpoint, sexually assaulting him, and then killing him when the boy attempted to escape. The hosts discuss the psychological aspects of Chavez's behavior and his attempts to minimize his culpability.

The episode concludes with the aftermath of Jimmy's murder, including the establishment of the Jimmy Rice Center and the family's efforts to improve child safety laws. The emotional impact of the case on the community and the Rice family is also emphasized.

TLDR

The episode covers the abduction and murder of Jimmy Rice by Juan Carlos Chavez, detailing the investigation and its community impact.

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talk some true [Music] crime [Music] when we left off yesterday Captain we asked the simple question where's Jimmy
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and we were leading up to a possible break in the case hinting that there would be a break in this case now the
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break would come nearly 3 months after his disappearance and it would come at the suspicions of one woman Suzanne
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shinh housee but she was not suspicious in regards to Jimmy Rice's case no she was suspicious for other reasons and in
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fact her involvement in this case actually started before Jimmy Rice even went missing and this was in August and
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September member of 1995 when Susan Shin housee reported to the local police several times that
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items from her home including a handgun and some jewelry were missing from her residence per court records the trailer
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is housed on a property that's owned by a one David Santana so no relation to Susan Shin house but what we have here
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Captain is there's a situation where Susan shine house she owns she's pretty well to do and owns a horse ranch and a
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large amount of property so she has people working for her on her properties and some of the other people in this
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general area are sharing some of those workers working at their properties as well she has this situation where some
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of her items are missing from her home again these are items of value a handgun and some jewelry after filing multiple
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police reports and passing long suspicions to the authorities they're kind of their hands are tied they cannot
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pursue any of the people that she's suspicious of so she tells one of her friends about what's going on hey
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there's some items missing from my home this is what I think's happening but I don't really have any proof I can't get
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the police to act on it because again there's no evidence I have no proof here in any of my suspicions her friend tells
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her why don't you go talk to this psychic Maybe she can direct you to your items maybe they're misplaced maybe
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somebody did take them who knows so she decides to go to the psychic and the psychic kind of confirms some of
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Suzanne's suspicions saying you will find the items that you're looking for on a trailer located in this specific
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area now the trailer that you're referring to Captain would later be referred to as either the avocado Grove
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trailer or the horse farm trailer what she does here is the man that lives in this trailer Matt Foley and works as a
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handyman and a farmand on her property his name is Juan Carlos Chavez she sends him out to do some
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errands keep him busy for the day and this is on December 5th 1995 she takes her son with her his
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name's Edward shin houseee and a locksmith and they open up the trailer to go inside to see if they can find the
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items that are missing from Susan's home they're inside the trailer in plain sight they find the missing handgun now
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this was a handgun that she had purchased in April of 1989 again she finds it in plain view on
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the counter in the kitchen opposite the trailer door after finding the gun her and her son continued to look inside the
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trailer looking for the missing jewelry when they discovered inside of a closet area a book bag which was partially open
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looking inside the bag Suzanne saw papers and books the work appeared to be in a child's handwriting and she noticed
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the name Jimmy Rice on some of the papers she observed this name on one of the books as well now this is going to
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send off major red flags for the shine houses yeah because in the local community everybody's asking where is
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Jimmy where's Jimmy that's the common phrase going around town and has been for almost 3 months now so everybody
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knew the name Jimmy Rice in fact it was later said that that on that day September 11 1995 he went from being not
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just Dawn and claudine's Son but the son of the whole Community looking for this
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child Jimmy Rice so immediately Mrs Shin housee notifies the FBI saying hey this is some stuff some weird stuff
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that I just found in this dude's trailer who's working for me this Juan Carlos Chavez but also this book bag in in
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general has been talked about like you were saying his mother was saying well look he would throw down his his book
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bag and run so you got this whole Community going where is Jimmy and you find this book bag with all his
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belongings yeah I mean just strange stuff not what she was anticipating right even though she is suspicious of
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this man she was looking to find other items in his trailer and did so in the course but finding this item as well she
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contacts the FBI and so the FBI and the Metro Dade Police show up on scene they view the items they take a look around
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in the trailer and now they're waiting for Juan Carlos Chavez to return to this property and he does so a little after
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700 p.m. on the evening of December 6th where he is quickly surrounded and arrested without incident he's patted
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down they read him as Miranda writes and now it's time to take this man in for interrogation I wonder if he had at some
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point realized that he's been duped and they were going through his belongings so who is this man well 28-year-old
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Chavez first arrived in the United States in 1991 this after a raft ride from Cuba to
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South Florida with two other individuals he had previously served time in Cuba after attempting to steal a boat from a
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military base in 1986 this during a previous attempt to flee the country for which he was caught
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and sentenced to 4 years in prison but only served one year and 11 months Chavez had served in the Cuban military
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after he was drafted he was granted permanent residency in 1993 under the Cuban adjustment act
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which gave automatic residency to most Cubans after a year in the United States while a criminal history could prevent
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residency from being granted we have a situation where the United States and Cuba had no diplomatic
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relations so a criminal check was nearly impossible according to an Immigration and Naturalization official quote I
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guess they felt like this was a military related case so he got his green card end quote it is worth noting that once
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Chavez was identified the rice family I have such respect for Don and Claudine rice and all of the the rice family and
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it breaks my heart to see what they were forced to go through but these are smart
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and understanding people and I think this just kind of shows who they really are the rice family very quickly
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denounced what they called stupid Prejudice requesting that the community ignore Chavez's Cuban Roots as Don rice
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said quote some people have come to the family to say that they are ashamed of being Cuban and Hispanic I just want to
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make clear that evil comes in many ways there is nothing to apologize for our fight is with Predators yeah and now
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that they have Chavez and custody they're going to be able to interrogate him which I believe the interrogation
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went for roughly 55 hours it took place over the course of two days yeah and this was some pretty intense stuff it
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was so lengthy due in part to the different stories that Chavez is going to provide law enforcement to try to
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explain way why he is in possession of the book bag of a missing 9-year-old child right so his first story is that
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he simply found the book bag and he found it in a field and he brought it back to his trailer and he's had it ever
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since I don't know what date he claims to have found it or why he decided to bring a child's book bag back to his
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trailer that's not important because as quickly as police explain to him look we're not buying that story uh could you
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try to prove to us that that is in fact how you came to be in possession of this
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book bag he quickly moves on to another story all right so now we're interrogating and I don't know how many
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hours have gone by yet Captain but now we have a different story and we see this time and time again he may have
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provided detectives with 10 stories a dozen stories maybe dozens of stories but but we see this time and time again
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with certain types of offenders where it starts off as oh you got me in cuffs and
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you're asking me the hard questions starts off as I had nothing to do with this to then a completely different
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story hours later of yeah I'm involved but I'm still kind of innocent and let me tell you why so one of the stories he
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comes up with is that when he was out working and driving for work on September 11 after 300 p.m. he's
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returning back to his place of work when he accidentally struck and hit a boy with his vehicle crushing the boy
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between the vehicle he's driving and a guard rail and he didn't think that anybody
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would believe him about what had happened that this was simply an accident so he decided to conceal the
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body of this boy that he hit on the the side of the road well there's some problems with that story Mr Chavez first
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of all there's no damage to the vehicle that you driving and there is no damage to any guard rail or fence that we can
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find even though we have him take us to the scene of this quote unquote accident
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we can't find any evidence of there being any kind of vehicle accident at all that's my favorite in the cases is
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where they know the person's lying and they still have to do their due diligence and go out like here Chavez oh
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yeah you say there was a wreck let's go out to the scene nope there's no evidence of the wreck or probably my
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favorite one that we've ever covered is when Casey Anthony took detectives to her work and uh they go all the way
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there and all go down a couple hallways and do a couple things and then she turns around and goes I don't work here
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right that's right turns around and says I don't work here I lied yeah and that's
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where you know sometimes we have situations I don't want to I'm not going to sit here and pretend that CSI is real
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and these TV shows are real and that's the way that things work we know better than that they're not real we know
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better than that here in the garage and the people that tune in know better than
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that as well but this is where I have to believe that entertainment is mirroring
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reality when you see the annoyed detective that just looks at the guy after they prove to him that okay your
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first story didn't work your fifth Story didn't work this last one that we had to
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come out here to location to make sure that you didn't get in a vehicle accident didn't work you know where you
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see the annoyed detective who goes all right care to try this again Mr Chavez yeah but here's where I think Chavez
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brain was right I I found the book bag then when he says I found the book bag I think he started figuring out well
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they probably know my route that I take for work and so once he started assuming
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that law enforcement went uh they they probably know certain things about my schedule
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already based on possibly they talked to my employers and I think that's why he ended up changing his story initially to
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go oh well yeah I was I happened to be on my my route for work and I came across this kid and that is partial
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truth over the course of this interrogation and after having been repeatedly advised of his Miranda rights
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and then waving them this is when Chavez finally provided well the real version after providing several versions of his
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involvement in Jimmy's disappearance we only get to the truth after the physical evidence resulting
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from their investigation that they've had so far and anything that they've discussed with Chavez totally
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discredited each version of events that Juan Carlos gave to the investigators to
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which he finally agreed to tell the truth however Chavez explained that before he would disclose the location of
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Jimmy's remains he wanted the officers to guarantee that he would in fact receive the death penalty for his
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involvement in this case now the detectives told this man look we can't guarantee you that's not the kind of
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thing we can make happen uh from our position but given the nature of the crime and what they suspected he was
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about to tell them they didn't think that it was going to be difficult for this man to receive the death penalty
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yeah hold on a second so normally what happens and I'm going to I'm guessing it's normally because that's normally
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when we cover a case that's what happens is you have a situation where somebody wants to confess but what they want to
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take off the table is the death penalty yes this uh rectum socket he's like hey I will tell you what
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happened but you got to keep the death penalty on the table he wants to guarantee that the death penalty will be
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imposed in his case exactly right yeah so he's like okay well I'm going to tell you what happened but now you need to
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charge me and you need to go after the death penalty he also very interesting he also wanted to make it clear to
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detectives that the events that took place would not have happened had he not been sexually battered by a relative in
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Cuba so he goes on to tell these detectives after a quick break he walks into the room after using
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the restroom and says what do you want to know I'll tell you what happened to Jimmy Rice and he proceeded to admit
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that he abducted Jim Jimmy at gunpoint traveled back to the horse ranch with him where he sexually assaulted Jimmy
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before finally shooting him now this is when detectives say okay you know great thank you for telling us the truth but
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we're going to need the details mhm we're going to need the details and we need to find the boys remains they
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probably said look we need the Deets well Chavez said that when he was out working driving around that he observed
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some young children playing in water this on his way home from Home Depot at approximately 300 p.m. on September 11
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he said some of the boys were wearing just their underwear and as he saw the young boys wearing just the underwear
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they're getting wet he took an interest in them after observing the children he said that he drove off and a short while
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later he was still picturing the children and he decided that at some point point he wanted to abduct a child
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so while this is occurring he's driving and he says that he sees another young boy he sees a Boy by himself this later
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turns out to be Jimmy Rice right at this point he's feeling something sexual and
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he wants to that he wants to take this young boy that he sees and he says that he used the gun the stolen gun that he
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has this is a 38 caliber gun and he pulls up and he blocks Jimmy Rice's path with the vehicle steps
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out and points the gun at the boy and says do you want to die he grabs the kid by the shirt pulls him into the vehicle
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tells him to get down on like the um the floorboard area of the the vehicle so that he wouldn't be seen by other
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passengers and he drives him back to his trailer or the trailer that he's staying
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in at the time and this this is where the rape takes place now this is horrific I don't know and don't care to
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go into the details of what happens at the trailer at this point but one thing that I
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strongly question is how much he was willing to admit to because approximately 4 hours takes place
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between him getting to the trailer and the time that he decides to leave the trailer now I want everybody out there
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to I want to be very clear about this the the following story is Juan Carlos Chavez's story as he claims it to be and
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we will go through this a little more here in a minute but I'm going to start tell it from start to
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finish but I want to be clear I don't believe 100% this is exactly what took place and what happened he says that
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about 4 hours after bringing the boy to the trailer that he decided to let Jimmy
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Go go he was going to return him to either near his home or the location where he abducted the boy well initially
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he also does say you know that his objective initially was to just abduct and to molest a child he says that as he
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approached the area that he was going to drop the boy off there was a strong police presence there and this caused
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him to panic it spooked him and he didn't know what to do so he decided to return with the boy to the trailer once
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back at the trailer they're there for I don't know how long I mean we're getting
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into the nighttime hours now there's a lot of police out looking for Jimmy at this time and there are helicopters um
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that they are using and I don't know if it was a helicopter specific to the search for Jimmy rice or if it just
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happened to be a helicopter that flew over the area flew over top of the trailer where Jimmy and this man are but
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he gets up again he's kind of Paranoid by this point according to his own words he's looking out the window to see
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what's going on and he says that's when Jimmy made a run for the door and so Chavez reacts he's got a gun
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he shoots the boy shooting him in the back yeah claiming that he held on to the boy to I guess comfort him as he lie
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there dying you see this a lot of times with criminals where right when they commit the crime they become hyper
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paranoid yeah we saw that and we actually had the words of Dennis Raider and several other killers that we've
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talked about here in the garage where you know Dennis Raiders said that as soon as he committed the murders he
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fully expected police to arrive at his doorstep within minutes or hours of committing that crime and I believe we
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had the same thing happen with with Ed keer when he killed his grandparents and when when nobody showed
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up Ed keer just called it in yeah but yeah you're right there's that immedia paranoia that sets in according to these
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types that hey everybody knows what I just did all of a sudden they magically know yeah and not all killers but just
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it seems to be and a percentage of them where crime happens and then hyper par paranoid some of them don't get scared
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at all which is completely bizarre but then he goes on to say that he needed a place to hide the body so he's out
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driving around looking for either a location or something to help him conceal the body of this boy and which
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he found a barrel one of those large metal drums he loaded it into the vehicle I believe this was a van or a
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truck I'm sorry a van returns to the trailer places the boy's body in that barrel for the meantime and he decides
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later that he's going to need to bury the remains to which he ends up using attempting to use a back ho on one of
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the properties that he's working he can't get the back ho to work properly it's malfunctioning for whatever reason
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so he decides that he's going to have to dismember the boy and he buries I'm use
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air quotes there buries the remains in cement in several large Planters he was hoping that the cement and the Planters
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of course would make it so that the remains were never to be detected you fast forward to early December where the
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shin houses make their way into his trailer and find these things this damning evidence that is going to lead
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police directly to the killer of Jimmy Rice and that's one of those weird things you know there's a lot of weird
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things in any of these cases and in this case there are those weird things but here's a case Captain where nearly 3
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months later this guy this monster for whatever reason decided made a conscious decision to hold on to this book
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bag yeah had this book bag never been found he was working on Long Division I wonder if we would have ever known what
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really happened here to Jimmy Rice probably not because there was nothing connecting Juan Carlos Chavez to him
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other than that book bag this was in every sense of the phrase a stranger abduction according to Juan Carlos
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Chavez now I want to point out some things that I call into question in regards to Mr Chavez's
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story I like how he is constantly minimizing his culpability in this case right he
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presents his story and he presents himself as an impulsive human being who made a mistake versus a monster a child
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predator and that's really what he is at the end of the day and a piece of [ __ ]
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the statement of he was going to return Jimmy but oh I panicked I I I I got scared I didn't know what to do when I
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saw the police in that area he claimed that he only had to kill him because the boy tried to escape he
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said that he had to dismember the boy because the backhoe wouldn't work and he was unable to bury the boy you ever
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heard of a shovel the other thing too he says he only was going to molest the boy or had or he was
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molested and that's why he wanted to abduct and rape a boy again taking minimizing his own culpability in any of
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this sit situations there's there's always a reason that led him to do the next despicable disgusting act that he
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that he decided to do himself and the other thing too that we have to keep in mind according to law enforcement and
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the courts these items were reported stolen many times several times in August in September what was
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the purpose for him stealing that gun in the first place why did he happened to have that gun with him in the vehicle on
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the day that he's working when he just so happened to stumble across a Jimmy Rice walking alone by himself after he
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just happened to see some boys playing in the water together barely wearing any clothing right I start to see a
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situation where this man decided he needed a gun for some reason at some point and he decided to steal one mhm I
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see a situation where I think this guy could could have been driving around looking for a boy and he could have been
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looking for a boy for weeks or months and it wasn't until he got that gun that he thought that he was going to get what
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cheers to you captain now sadly the Jimmy Rice story did not end the way that anybody wanted it to end the I mean
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just to add to the sadness and add to add to the devastation here the trailer and the property where the remains were
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recovered of this boy right were less than 2 miles away from his home and all this time those answers
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were much closer than they thought all those search efforts never LED them to Jimmy
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Rice yeah but sometimes I think the world the universe the powers that being try to make things right boy goes
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missing we don't know what happens these items went missing before the boy went missing but once she then seeks
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out some confirmation about her beliefs a psychic tells her hey I have this energy saying that there's items and
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you'll find them in this trailer and like you said she finds this gun she finds the book bag I think one
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it wasn't a mistake that he just left the book bag in there that was kind of some
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souvenir but also like you said I would lean to the idea that he might have been
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tracking these individuals and tracking these kids because they get dropped off on a
00:34:24
main route that that's the main route you would drive you wouldn't be driving through these
00:34:30
neighborhoods to and from Home Depot you take main streets but if you're on the prow looking for children well follow a
00:34:40
couple buses see who they drop off right so I'm with you where I think this was something that he thought about maybe
00:34:49
fantasized about maybe even try to look I'll try to give him the benefit of the doubt maybe he even try to suppress
00:34:56
these fantasies but then like like you were saying I think this is was premeditated maybe he
00:35:03
even pulled up in front of a kid once or twice before and chickened out at the last minute yeah you see that all the
00:35:10
time so I think really what we see here is what we've seen so many times before where he's just trying to minimize his
00:35:17
yes I did this but I I did I did a because of this happening I did B because that happened and so on and so
00:35:25
forth and it just Contin on and on and on well yeah I think that's maybe where we disagree because he wants the death
00:35:34
penalty to be on the table he wants to be sentenced to death so that's kind of odd motiv that's a
00:35:43
kind of a odd motive to um to change your story to minimize your story you think if anything you
00:35:52
want to appear more of a monster so you can guarantee that you get that death penalty he could have waved his appeals
00:36:01
he didn't bother to do that though he appealed this thing like crazy and that's the thing look I when
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you have somebody when you're talking about a a child predator and a child killer I mean the worst of of the worst
00:36:16
and you and I we we just will not have the ability to crawl inside the minds of these people and we I mean I've seen
00:36:27
Honey I Shrunk the Kids but what's that I said I've seen Honey I Shrunk the Kids but I don't know if they
00:36:34
can make me small enough to to get inside there but when we look at these things it's it's very fair for us to
00:36:42
look at his words his statements and his actions and question every single one of
00:36:47
them did he say something dumb like hey I want to make sure that you put me to death did he want to throw that out
00:36:54
there just so hey when we get to court I'm going to I want everybody to know that only only a person outside of his
00:37:01
mind would be saying Hey I want you to put me to death that there's something wrong with me clearly so you know we
00:37:07
should question everything that this type of person would do because he shown us what He is capable of now the
00:37:15
aftermath of this thing Captain as we said Jimmy really became the child of a community and there were 600 people
00:37:23
nearly 600 people that gathered to honor this boy who died too soon at his funeral Reverend Leonard brusso who led
00:37:33
the service at St Andrews Episcopal Church said during the course of his sermon because Jimmy Rice was with us
00:37:41
his contemporaries his classmates and teammates and children he never knew all are becoming safer from predators and
00:37:48
pedophiles who would pray on them because Jimmy Rice was with us awareness of the perils that stalk our streets and
00:37:57
playgrounds and schools and sanctuaries places we had hoped were safe is being raised up to a new and higher level well
00:38:07
and it's really good one this community but also his family his mom and dad to say hey look there's this tragedy this
00:38:16
tragic thing that happened to our family but we're going to make sure that Jimmy
00:38:21
Rice's name it is uh synonymous with good and this world yeah and when people have a free moment I would encourage
00:38:30
everyone to go to Jimmy r.org and rice is rc.org and you can see the Jimmy Rice Center that was set up by his parents
00:38:44
and the community and this they really do so many things there that it's difficult for us in our limited time to
00:38:52
explain everything that they do but even after after their son's body was discovered after the funeral his parents
00:39:00
Claudine and Don rice worked to improve the national system of tracking missing children by using both the internet and
00:39:08
greater cooperation among law enforcement agencies cine rice said quote publicity caught the man so she
00:39:16
dedicated herself to generating more publicity and public cooperation in missing child cases by the time of
00:39:24
Jimmy's funeral a petition that would make it easier for law enforcement agencies across the country to
00:39:29
coordinate search efforts had already amassed over 300,000 signatures Florida's us delegation filed the Jimmy
00:39:39
Rice ASAP child assistance act to make it easier to post photos of missing children in federal and state buildings
00:39:49
this brings us Captain to 2014 at 8:02 p.m. on Wednesday February 12 2014 Juan Carlos Chavez lie on a
00:40:00
gurnie in a brightly lit room with leather straps around his wrist and ankles and IVs for the lethal injection
00:40:08
inserted into his arms he did not give us a last statement so to speak it actually came in the form of a Chavez's
00:40:18
last statement came in the form of a rambling handwritten note composed hours before his execution in the know he
00:40:26
didn't apologize to the Rises nor did he claim he was innocent of the crime for which he would be executed instead he
00:40:36
wrote of his faith and his wish that Christ's love reach those who in their pain desire my death no word or man will
00:40:46
rob me of my peace today he was executed on that day his last meal consisted of a ribey state
00:40:56
french fries a fruit cup strawberry ice cream and mango juice it just always drives me nuts when they when they eat
00:41:04
something or some something strange like mango juice I like mango juice right when I hear that this son of a [ __ ]
00:41:11
drinks a mango juice I I never want to drink mango juice again I don't want to be anywhere close to the to an animal
00:41:20
like this at 8:17 p.m. Chavez was declared dead around two dozen reporters gathered in front of the Florida State
00:41:28
Prison in preparation for the execution sadly Jimmy's mother Claudine and his half-sister had already passed
00:41:37
away by this point but Jimmy's father and half brother were both in attendance none of the 19 Witnesses showed any
00:41:45
emotion during the execution though pain was apparent on Don though pain was apparent in Don
00:41:53
Rice's eyes immediately after this execution Captain Don rice gives a statement that's videotaped recorded and
00:42:02
it's you can find it still to this day and I believe you can find it at Jimmy r.org as well it's also on YouTube Don
00:42:10
rice is addressing pedophiles who might abduct children yeah and he says do not kill the child do not kill the child
00:42:22
because if you kill the child people will not forget people will not forgive we will hunt you down and we will put
00:42:30
you to death that being a warning to anybody that would abduct the child letting them know you still have a
00:42:38
chance to return this kid to drop them off somewhere to to get them out of your possession you always have that
00:42:47
opportunity until you don't don't kill the child this is what happens and he goes on to say that if there was ever a
00:42:56
person ever a man that deserved to be put to death it was Chavez who killed his son now Don rice passed away last
00:43:06
year and he did so much great work before his passing his wife did so much great work before hers and their
00:43:15
son Jimmy's half brother continues to do that great work today again we have the
00:43:21
Jimmy Rice Center who does they do so many different things plus there was the 1998 Jimmy Rice act this was something
00:43:30
that was put into our system to create and change the system so that sexually violent Predators can remain in state
00:43:39
custody long after finishing their prison sentences so that they would be evaluated and they it would be
00:43:46
determined if they were ready for release or not it's a way to keep them housed in a facility that might not be
00:43:54
an actual State Prison or be monitored once they are out I want to bring up here Captain a quote from Colleen Nick
00:44:02
Colleen Nick is the mother of Morgan Nick a girl who disappeared and has never been found or located since her
00:44:09
disappearance a case that we have covered here in the garage and the quote is I remember standing in the middle of
00:44:15
the chaos thinking I wish I had a book to tell me what to do child abductions are rare stranger child abductions are
00:44:23
even more rare very few people very few law enforcement agencies actually know what to do in the proper order to do
00:44:32
them when this does occur because they are rare Don rice said that unfortunately when they started their
00:44:40
investigation he wanted to see them start their investigation but they appeared to be starting from scratch
00:44:46
because they had never investigated a child stranger abduction law enforcement the Department of Justice with the help
00:44:54
of several family members and parents of missing and abducted children got together and they created a book called
00:45:04
when your child is missing a family survival guide and this is a pretty substantial book with a lot of great
00:45:10
information in it and a lot of great resources there's even a to-do list for you for the first 24 hours The First 48
00:45:17
Hours things that you should be doing to help find and locate your child now God
00:45:24
forbid that any of us ever need it I'm just simply pointing out that it is there it is available for free for
00:45:30
anybody that wants it you can find it by simply Googling that title when your child is missing a family survival guide
00:45:39
and again if anybody wants to find out more about the Jimmy Rice Center the website is Jimmy r.org
00:45:47
obviously one of many things that they want to do is increase public awareness of sexual predators they want to help
00:45:55
bring kids home like so many other organizations do there's a bevy of resources there available on their
00:46:04
website there's also ways for you to get involved and ways that you can help others now one thing that the Jimmy Rice
00:46:11
Center does is that they provide AKC blood hounds free to law enforcement to help find abducted and lost persons and
00:46:21
children and according to their website they say a blood hound has 60 times the scent power of a German shepherd and is
00:46:29
the only dog that can follow a human Trail more than a few hours old a blood hound is your single best bet for
00:46:36
bringing a child abducted by a predator home alive at the Jimmy Rice Center we believe that Jimmy would be alive today
00:46:45
if a blood hound had immediately been brought into the search for our son I am happy to announce and say here and
00:46:55
thankful to everybody who have donated this week and in previous weeks to our beer fund and we've said in the past
00:47:03
that we have what we call spillover Money the captain and I call it spillover money and we've used some of
00:47:09
that spillover money to go to a lot of great different that help law enforcement and help victims of crimes
00:47:17
and one thing we were able to do this week in honor of Jimmy Rice and the Jimmy Rice Center was to make a donation
00:47:24
to the Jimmy Rice Center they say that it takes about $11,000 for the center to provide these
00:47:31
AKC blood hounds to a law enforcement agency and because of all of you out there we were able to make a donation of
00:47:40
$11,000 to the Jimmy Rice Center and before we wrap up today we'd like to leave you with the words of Don rice a
00:47:48
short clip from his statement given to the media after his son's killer was put to
00:47:54
death don't kill the child don't kill the child because if you do people will not
00:48:11
forget they will not forgive we will hunt you down and we will put you to death [Music]
00:48:40
want to thank everybody so much for joining us here in the garage we'd be nothing without you we are nothing we're
00:48:49
we are nothing with you so without you would be extra nothing less than nothing Colonel do we have any a recommended
00:48:56
reading for this week uh yes we do Captain this week we are recommending the cases that haunt us by the great
00:49:02
John Douglas and Mark olshaker look call them what you want but don't call them open and shut cases did Lizzy bour
00:49:10
murder her own father and stepmother was Jack the Ripper actually the Duke of Clarence who killed John B Ramsay and so
00:49:18
on and so on it goes on and on and on check out this book because it's by the great John and Mark Al Shaker who
00:49:27
explore those great cases as well as several others and you can find that recommendation along with several others
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Episode Highlights

  • The Search for Jimmy Rice
    The community is in turmoil, asking, 'Where's Jimmy?' as the search intensifies.
    @ 08m 32s
    November 16, 2023
  • Chavez's Arrest
    Juan Carlos Chavez is arrested after the discovery of Jimmy Rice's belongings in his trailer.
    @ 10m 12s
    November 16, 2023
  • The Truth Unfolds
    Chavez admits to abducting and murdering Jimmy Rice, revealing horrific details of the crime.
    @ 19m 53s
    November 16, 2023
  • The Tragic End of Jimmy Rice
    The story of Jimmy Rice, whose abduction led to community awareness and advocacy.
    “The trailer and the property where the remains were recovered were less than 2 miles away from his home.”
    @ 33m 10s
    November 16, 2023
  • Claudine Rice's Advocacy
    After her son's tragic death, Claudine Rice dedicated herself to raising awareness about child abductions.
    “Publicity caught the man, so she dedicated herself to generating more publicity.”
    @ 39m 13s
    November 16, 2023
  • Don Rice's Final Warning
    In the aftermath of his son's executioner, Don Rice issued a stark warning to potential child abductors.
    “Do not kill the child, because if you do, people will not forget.”
    @ 42m 18s
    November 16, 2023
  • Donation to the Jimmy Rice Center
    A generous donation of $11,000 was made to support the Jimmy Rice Center.
    @ 47m 40s
    November 16, 2023
  • Don Rice's Powerful Statement
    Don Rice shares a powerful message after his son's killer was sentenced to death.
    “Don't kill the child.”
    @ 48m 00s
    November 16, 2023
  • Recommended Reading: The Cases That Haunt Us
    This week’s reading recommendation explores infamous unsolved cases by John Douglas and Mark Olshaker.
    @ 49m 00s
    November 16, 2023
  • True Crime Garage Premium Show
    Check out our premium show 'Off the Record' on the Stitcher app, releasing every other week.
    @ 49m 41s
    November 16, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • Gather around, grab a chair, grab a beer.
    Jimmy Ryce /// Part 2 /// 519
  • Evil comes in many ways.
    Jimmy Ryce /// Part 2 /// 519
  • Publicity caught the man.
    Jimmy Ryce /// Part 2 /// 519
  • Do not kill the child.
    Jimmy Ryce /// Part 2 /// 519
  • We will hunt you down and we will put you to death.
    Jimmy Ryce /// Part 2 /// 519
  • Don't kill the child.
    Jimmy Ryce /// Part 2 /// 519

Key Moments

  • Game Changers00:42
  • Community Search08:32
  • Chavez's Confession19:53
  • Final Warning42:18
  • Donation Made47:37
  • Don Rice's Statement47:45
  • Gratitude Expressed48:41
  • Closing Message49:53

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