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let's talk some true crime no no no no [Music] no no no go [Music] okay on Tuesday August 28th 2018 the
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Grafton New Hampshire attorney general issued a press release announcing the division of public protection the New
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Hampshire State Police and the Woodstock New Hampshire police were looking for a
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missing person 26-year-old Trish Haynes was missing from the Grafton Danbury area the release was not specific about
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where or when Trish was last seen it said only that she had been seen in the general area in late June or early July
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senior Assistant Attorney General Jeff stren said quote I can tell you that a family member reported her missing she
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hasn't been seen or heard from in some time that's causing some concern that's why law enforcement is involved in fact
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Trisha's family had not heard from her since May 16th 2018 they became very alarmed when her
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social security benefits checks were cut off and yet Trish remained missing they
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knew that she relied on these payments for her living expenses and the people she was living with
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they were very evasive when the family questioned where Trish was finally in early June her family reported her
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missing to the Woodstock Police it would be months before they would know Trisha's fate and now 3 years later
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they're still waiting for justice for Trish this is true crime garage and this is a case of Trish
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haes no no no [Music] Trish Danielle Haynes was born in Stewart Florida on July 22nd
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1992 she was the daughter of Toby Dale Duren and Megan Beth Haynes Megan and Toby were teen parents and look it's not
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easy to raise a child and at their young ages and really where they were both at
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in their lives they decided that the best home that they could provide and best living situation that they could provide
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for Trish would be to be raised by her maternal grandparents Steven and Sandra tuky the family lived in Florida and
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moved to North Carolina for a short time and then moved to New Hampshire for a few years from when Trish was about 11
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years old until early in Trish's high school years then they returned to the southern part of the country Trish loved
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fashion and dressing up she took pride in the outfits that she put together her favorite color was purple and she loved
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anything leopard print she listened to hip-hop music and loved pizza and Red Bull she was also an animal lover and
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was very close with her family according to them Trish was a very loyal friend sometimes to her own detriment Trish was
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known by her friends and family as loving caring and trusting Trisha's Aunt Valerie Haynes Alvarez who has become an
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outspoken advocate for Patricia's case and whom my friend and helper just spoke with at length in regards to this case
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Valerie was also very close with Trish and was even present when she was born she described Trish to a reporter as
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quote a sweet girl who was a little misguided she was always looking for love in the wrong places and finding it
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Valerie said and according to Valerie Trish found herself in one bad relationship after another unfortunately
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Trish suffered two very serious concussions when she was a kid from two separate
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incidents one of which involved her getting hit in the head with a baseball bat in a completely separate situation
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Trish was also diagnosed with PTSD this came to be possibly from her being assaulted by a male friend of her
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mother's as a result she received disability checks and relied on these checks for her living expenses so being
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raised by her her grandparents Trish was very very close with her grandmother Sandy
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Tukes there are many pictures of the two of them online smiling and hugging each
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other but Trish left her grandparents home in Florida in 2016 this at the age of 22 to move to
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New Hampshire to live with her boyfriend Chris Hughes in North Woodstock the two
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of them met while they were both living in Florida but now in our timeline Captain the two are living in New
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Hampshire they both had jobs at a popular restaurant called The Landmark and the owners being the nice people
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that they are allowed the two of them to live in an apartment in the restaurant building but Trish knew very few people
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in that area so she did not have a large support network and the relationship well it went South rather quickly Chris
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had served some time in prison and according to the family Trish told them Chris was abusive and the relationship
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ship was volatile and at times even violent there are several stories of varying types of abuse from this
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relationship one where Chris pulled a knife on her and once when Chris falsely thought that Trish had cheated on him he
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made her shave her head the restaurant owners Andre and Irene Childs who love Trish told her to get away from Chris
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but she didn't Trish ended up being arrested for domestic violence this is a charge that she pled guilty to and also
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obtained a restraining order against Chris when she tried to press charges against him for domestic violence he
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convinced her that that would mean that he would have to go back to prison so she recanted her report and then was
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charged with filing a false police report this whole thing really is just a big mess but then in October
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2017 Trish moved back to Florida but she could not Escape prosecution on the false reporting charges and on December
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16th 2017 she flew from Florida back to New Hampshire to deal with her legal proceedings she stayed with a friend
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named Becky in North Woodstock for two weeks but Becky lived on a remote farm with no cell service and since Trish was
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always on her phone like most young people and had nothing to do this was not going to work for her yeah but
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better than being in a sit situation where you're forced to shave your head that is correct so in the beginning of
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January she asked Becky her friend to drop her off in Canan and was picked up by two people this would be Ashley Smith
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and her husband Douglas Smith junor they lived in Grafton New Hampshire Trish and
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Ashley were classmates during the years when Trish lived in New Hampshire in her
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early years according to Trisha's family back in grade school Ashley was was the
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mean girl who kind of bullied Trish and Trish's family did not approve of Ashley
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or her family but the two ended up connecting on Facebook now that Trish was back in New Hampshire and Trish well
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as we said Captain she needed somewhere to stay and she was only looking to be there temporarily because she has to go
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to these Court proceedings and get this part of her life over with and move on so like you were saying it seems like
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Trish was only planning to stay with them for a short period but her trial date ends up getting pushed back that's
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correct captain and this situation where she's going to be moving into and again
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just staying for a short time the home the Smith's home is located at 225 Main Street and the general plan was that she
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was going to live there for about two weeks or so and that would make sense because she's moving in with friend with
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her friend Ashley who was there with her husband and their five children so we're
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already at seven people in this house Trish is going to make eight but that two weeks turned out to be longer than
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that as you said this is in part because that court date got pushed from January
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to April so she would have to wait it out at Ashley and Doug's place from this point on Trisha's family said that
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communication with her was spotty and unpredictable she told them that in early February her cell phone was lost
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or was broken so they could only reach her via Ashley's phone this was very strange at least the family thought
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conversations were few and far between and always relied on Ashley's cooperation they're going to have to go
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through Ashley's phone to talk to Trish she always seemed to be nearby Ashley did whenever they got Trish on the phone
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the excuse was that they had no cell service at the Smith's home and they had to be in town to get actual reception
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right and Trish was not very communicative during these conversations often cutting them short and waffling
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about what she was up to well and we know that she has a tendency to be able to be manipulated so you wonder if she's
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being manipulated by Ashley exactly or held down in some form or being abused her correct and because she had no phone
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Trish stopped posting on social media as well this would be something that she would normally do very frequently so
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this made it even more difficult for her family to keep regular communication with Trish and not really to be able to
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keep easy tabs on her at all again also in a lot of abusive situations it's divide and conquer divide the individual
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from friends and family time past the family assumed that Trish had gone to her court date in April and then served
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the 7-Day sentence her lawyer had prepared her for but then Trisha's grandmother thought she would have heard
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from her you know after this 7-Day sentence as Trish was supposed to return to Florida after this is all over with
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but she didn't hear from Trish and she couldn't get a hold of Trish she couldn't get her on the phone even when
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she had a heart attack and was hospitalized at the end of April still couldn't get any communication with
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Trish wa who had the heart attack Trisha's grandmother who she was extremely close with and who raised her
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so finally her grandmother Sandy did managed to get a hold of Trish this again via Ashley's phone but this was
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only for a very brief conversation from what I've been told Captain the last time anyone in Trisha's family spoke
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with her was May 16th 2018 so all right everyone make a mental note here May 16th
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2018 over the next month and a half so roughly over the next 6 weeks or so Trish's mother and grandmother tried
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repeatedly to get Trish on Ashley's phone but they were told that she wasn't around or that Trish was too busy to
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take their call Ashley and her mother Wendy Place consistently told Trish's grandmother that Trish had left and
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moved out and was living in Vermont with a new boyfriend that nobody had ever heard of but Trish was safe and she no
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longer wanted to have any contact with her family I know you mentioned this before but she's receiving checks for
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her disability what were the amount of those checks I do not know the amount of these checks but I know that it would
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have been enough for her to basically think about it as like a monthly stien to to live in to eat and to survive you
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know so it would have been enough for her to rent a place to stay and enough to to get her by for month to month and
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I'm guessing these checks are going to Ashley's house where Trish was staying that is my understanding so
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Ashley is telling Trish's family that Trish had a new boyfriend that she lives with him now and that Trish really no
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longer wants to speak with her family doesn't want to speak with them moved out of state to Vermont M and then
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Ashley takes it a step further and says hey Trish even said that she hates yall so this is very unusual and her family
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frankly didn't really buy it but since there was no way to reach or get a hold of Trish they kind of just had to roll
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with it right the other weird thing here is that Trish's family they didn't know
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Ashley's married name or the address where Ashley and her husband lived so they had very little information about
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these people at all yeah so trying to track down Trish her family got in touch with Chris they're actually reaching out
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to the exboyfriend the abusive ex-boyfriend thinking maybe Trish got back with Chris
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and she was just too embarrassed to tell her family yeah I wonder how that conversation went ring ring ring he [ __ ]
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bag is our daughter there well look he might Chris might have like a grinch sized heart the small heart but he has
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some heart because he at least says he's up front with them and says I've not heard from her and now I'm hearing from
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you guys that you can't locate her now I'm concerned as well how can I help right so in fact he even posted on
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Trisha's Facebook page on her wall at one point where are you you know so now everybody's looking for Trish well maybe
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not Ashley and Doug I at least give him credit for doing that that in late May Valerie again this is Trisha's aunt
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called the Plymouth district court and this is very concerning this is when the family goes okay major red flags
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here Valerie discovered that Trish never showed up for her court date in April again that's the whole purpose of her
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being in the state of New Hampshire to begin with this of course is very bad news her family was now left wondering
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if Trish was possibly on the run from the law so Trish's grandmother finally got
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Ashley on the phone and told her that look if Trish didn't call them and tell them in her own voice that she was okay
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and was deliberately cutting herself off from the family when they well they were
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going to file a missing person's Report with the authorities mm with the police Ashley told them not to do that or they
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would never see Trish again she refused to answer any more questions texting that she just got out of a psych ward
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and couldn't deal with any of this and as everyone can guess Trish never called so following through Trish's family
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called Lieutenant Miler of the north Woodstock Police to report Trish missing in the first week of July
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2018 Lieutenant Miler was the one dealing with Trish's court case so they were at least familiar with Trish and
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the family somewhat authorities had the idea to put a halt to Trisha's Social Security benefits in an attempt to flush
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her out remember Trish depended on these disability payments when cutting off her
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income failed to make Trish reappear so to speak that is when it became very clear to all that something was very
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not me so let's keep in mind at this point in our timeline Trish is missing and it's her family that discovers that
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something weird is going on they bring this to the local authorities because her family is not local well like you
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said not only is she missing from her family but this Ashley person that she was staying with is saying she doesn't
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want anything to do with you and and we're not going to tell you where she's at we're not going to give you any way
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to communicate with her and then she misses this court appearance which would give her a at least a bench warrant and
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but then the authorities like you said I think this is a great idea cut off her money because then she has to make
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contact with somebody correct she would have no way of really surviving financially unless she was able to latch
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on to somebody else or be dependent of someone else at this point so I'm guessing that the family would still be
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hopeful at this point the police just now catching this case are going to be looking for this young woman the police
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themselves were able to find some witnesses who said that they saw Trish at the 225 Main Street address in
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Grafton again this is the home of Ashley and Doug Smith and there are five children but that was in the
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spring and no one had seen her since miday one woman who said she met Trish at the house in the spring of 2018 her
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name is Faith Partridge she said that Trish was unkempt and unable to make eye contact saying quote she did not talk to
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me she always looked at the floor other witnesses that the family has been contacted by since Trisha's case went
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public have told them some very disturbing things there was another couple living with Doug and Ashley Smith
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at the same time as Trish how many people are living there right it's like 15 people this is Travis and Sarah
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couter and their two children it's like The Brady Bunch times two yeah so you would have five adults and seven
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children living in this home all at the same time and look I understand that people have to make uncomfortable
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arrangements or Arrangements that sometimes in their lives that are not the most ideal but I always thought that
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it's just a weird setup when I see multiple adults living with a bunch of kids it I've always just it's always
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been kind of weird to me do you mean it's like a little pedo FS no no no I don't mean that at all I mean it's just
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look I'm someone that that likes little kids and I can handle being around them for small doses five minutes right so a
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person saying yeah I'll I'll rent a room for you from you for 200s a month oh but I have to live with your
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five children that always seems either a little desperate or a little weird to me
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right according to what the hannes family has been told Trish was basically enslaved by at least the Smiths maybe
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all four of these adults taking care of their children cleaning the house and suffering all kinds of abuses like
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beatings and strange accusations Doug Smith is rumored to be a major drug dealer and the people he and Ashley were
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hanging around were not of the Savory type it seems Trish got caught up in this and because she needed somewhere to
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live and also wanted to be loved and needed she became dependent on the Smiths but Ashley was manipulative and
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vengeful and would accuse Trish of trying to steal Doug away from her and would tell others that Trish was
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sleeping with their men with the two men in the house it seems like Ashley was the one initiating some of the beatings
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and the abuses that were dealt to Trish people I mean let's face it nobody wants to sleep
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with Doug you know other than Ashley apparently nobody people who saw Ashley didn't even want to sleep with Doug
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people who saw Trish at this time well those who were willing to talk anyway say she was clearly being being abused
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mistreated and victimized there is talk of her being beaten and emotionally exploited Faith Partridge remember we
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mentioned her before she's the woman who saw Trish and said she looked disheveled
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so now we have the Brady Bunch and The Partridge Family okay this is a a witness says that her husband was at the
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Smith's home buying car parts and he said that he saw Doug Smith backhand Trish after they learned that Trish was
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missing what the [ __ ] the partridges went to the authorities and told them hey this is something that we
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saw another woman named Cayo F who was involved with Ashley Smith's brother Byron at one point told Trish's family
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that she witnessed The Smith's mistreating Trish and she said the Smiths and their extended family were
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very very bad people well after Doug backhanded her and then the Partridge family calls the police is there ever a
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report yes they filed a report of this but it was after Trish went missing okay another woman named Beverly told the
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family that Ashley and Doug abused Trish and they were taking her Social Security
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money and that they pimped her out to various men to quote earn her keep these people seem like they need to be set on
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fire and then we'll try to put them out with gallons of gasoline well the reason
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the attorney general made the announcement on August 28th 2018 that they were looking for Trish the one that
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we read in today's trailer well that was because on that same day several law enforcement agencies began conducting
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some very public searches for the missing young woman these were not just the outdoor grid searches using
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volunteers that we have seen in so many other cases these were targeted search warrant driven official searches of
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specific locations where authorities had reason to believe Trish might be here's
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an excerpt from a news report it says quote Grafton authorities spent the day on Tuesday searching a residential
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property for signs of a 26-year-old woman who has been missing for about 2 months Trish Haynes who is 5 feet 6 Ines
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tall and weighs 110 pounds has brown hair and brown eyes New Hampshire State Police Major Crimes
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unit officials focused their efforts on a home at 225 Main Street and the land surrounding it the property is owned by
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Douglas Carpenter while he is the owner of this parcel which is valued at about $190,000 according to property records
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Carpenter's primary residence is listed as South Thompson Maine attempts to reach him were unsuccessful
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police deferred comment on whether anyone has been living at the property the house sits on 9.5 acres of land and
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has several out buildings okay so this house that police are searching the 225 Main Street is owned by Doug Carpenter
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who lives in Maine this was the house where Trish was staying with her so-called friend Ashley Smith and
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Ashley's husband Doug and all those kids The Smiths rented the house from this Doug
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Carpenter the search of this home went on for several days and we now know that the police also searched two other
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properties that same week one was located at 608 wild Meadow Road and one was located at 91 French Hill Road both
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in Grafton population of Grafton 1,400 people approximately by the way and all three properties were connected in some
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way to Ashley and Doug Smith per WM news Ashley Smith recently stayed in each one of those locations that's why
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they're searching all three of those properties and houses so what is the Smith family's
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response to all of this trisko is missing they're not looking so great well Ashley Smith told
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WM news quote I woke up to a knock on the door Smith said I was all excited about my kids first day of school
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getting them ready and a bunch of officers just showed up she spoke with the reporter about Trish whom she called
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her best friend and when she last saw her or heard from her quote it's been a while Smith said I'd have to say at
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least probably July or so June I'm not good with dates does she like to abuse all of her best friends Ashley told WM
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that she couldn't understand why investigators were questioning her adding hopefully Trish will see this and
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she'll come out and show the public that she's fine the reporter asked are you worried about her and she said I'm
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worried sick about her the reporter asked her are you worried about her and she said I'm worried sick about her do
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you find that to be a a weird statement no I think she's just bullshitting I think she's just reacting
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and saying what she would expect to hear or see someone say on TV if they were asked the same question yeah now we
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don't have really any information here Captain about what the police were looking for of course they're looking
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for Trish and probably some of her belongings but no specifics other than what our guesses would be as to what
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they were looking for at these three locations now if anything was collected or if anything of Trisha's
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belongings were found on either of these premises or all or so on there's just no
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public information in that regard now this puts us to September 2018 in our timeline this is when the media reported
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that something was found and fact some large items were being removed from Grant's pond off of wild Meadow Road in
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Grafton remember we've heard that street name before this is.3 miles 3 miles from the structure at 308
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wild Meadow Road at that search location MH so not very far now members of the public said that they saw what looked
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like an old stackable washer and dryer being pulled out of that pond now unfortunately inside that washer and
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dryer in fact inside the washer body parts were found interestingly enough that Grant's
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Pond was searched because of a tip that police received from Sarah couter the woman who was living at the
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Smith's house with her husband and two kids right none of this was revealed by law enforcement at that time
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nor was it addressed that Trisha's grandmother Sandy was asked to fly to New Hampshire to provide a DNA sample to
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help identify the remains that were found in the washing machine so that brings us to an autopsy Captain old F me
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Malik time this was conducted by New Hampshire Chief medical examiner Dr jeie Deval using DNA The Remains were
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affirmatively identified as trick is Dr Deval was also able to determine that the manner of death was homicide the
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autopsy was finalized in 2019 and estimated that Trish had died around May 18th 2018 so died around that date remember
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she actually had some contact with her family right around that same time but that's when they lost contact with her
00:35:23
correct it's sad it's not really clear captain to me how they fixed the date of death to that time of May 18th
00:35:35
2018 my guess would be because you're you're werei you're finding some remains and not the body itself it would be
00:35:42
difficult to put a date on it and really a date as specific as that or even around that specific time my mind goes
00:35:52
to perhaps the Sarah cter tip told police either exactly or about when the washer/dryer was removed from the home
00:36:03
and dumped or possibly also last time she saw Trish that could be or it could be the fact that two men camping in the
00:36:12
area later said that they witnessed someone dumping something large in Grant's Pond and maybe they remembered
00:36:20
the date or about the date when that was that they witnessed that it's crazy the
00:36:25
finding of the remains in the autopsy were all kept tightly Under Wraps as far as the New Hampshire authorities would
00:36:33
discuss the case they were still saying Trish was a missing person for a while her obituary was not published until the
00:36:40
second half of 2019 although family was informed by the Attorney General's office in late
00:36:47
2018 that the remains found in the pond were Trish here is what Valerie later posted on the Facebook page that is
00:36:56
dedic at to Trish Haynes this is quote her grandmother and I were sworn to secrecy in September
00:37:05
2018 when they knew Trish was dead but we could not tell anyone else that she was dead not even family members who
00:37:12
continued to ask if we had heard anything and supposedly she was a missing person's case it was not until
00:37:20
July of 2019 that we were forced to force the hand of the AG when went to a TV station to complain about the lack of
00:37:29
action on the case and lo and behold that very evening before my interview was to air the AG's office made a
00:37:37
statement that went public first admitting it was a murder investigation end quote what was happening was
00:37:45
eventually the rest of the family became impatient with the stagnant quote missing person's investigation about
00:37:54
Trish and Valerie and Sandy the aunt and the grandmother were unimpressed with the fact that the murder was kept under
00:38:02
wraps and the investigation seem to really be going nowhere by that point we're talking about months and months
00:38:08
and months since the time that they're told we found the remains of your loved one and we've confirmed that it was a
00:38:15
homicide but we're still going to pretend for the sake of our investigation that she's a missing
00:38:21
person so they pressed the AG's office when they gave an interview to WMUR News that we've spoke about several times
00:38:31
already so what happens here is wmr goes to the AG's office and says hey we've we've received this information from
00:38:40
Trisha's family that gives the Attorney General's office the opportunity to put out that news release stating that we've
00:38:49
been looking for this person we've been looking for Trish Haynes right so their official news release
00:38:57
stated the following this comes from the New Hampshire Department of Justice which says Miss hannes was reported
00:39:04
missing last year she was last seen in the Grafton danburry New Hampshire area in may/june
00:39:12
2018 since then authorities have been investigating the circumstances of her disappearance during the course of the
00:39:19
investigation human remains were discovered in Grafton New Hampshire those remains were identified as the
00:39:25
deceased as Trish Haynes Dr Deval has also determined that Miss Haynes was the victim of a homicide the circumstances
00:39:33
that led to Mrs Haynes death are still being actively investigated so Trish Haynes in 2018 she decides to move in
00:39:41
with the Smith for a couple weeks because she has a trial that she has to appear at that gets pushed back to April
00:39:52
possibly push back again but it seems like around May is when her family loses all
00:40:00
contact with her but before that we have months and months of suspicious activity
00:40:06
mhm where they're trying to get a hold of Trish and they can really only talk to Ashley yes or Trish through Ashley
00:40:15
right and as you said communication was already difficult enough and then it seems to drop off completely around that
00:40:23
court date time period and they speak with her one last time and then later we're told
00:40:30
that the medical examiner believes that the death that the homicide took place in mid to late May of that year which
00:40:41
again would be right around that same time period when the communication dropped off completely right remember we
00:40:48
have Ashley now telling Trisha's family look she moved to Vermont with some other dude uh we don't know really much
00:40:54
about it but she said she doesn't want to talk to you anymore mhm she hates you she hates you yeah so leave us alone
00:41:03
because we don't know where she went 100% we can't help you out here show's over there's nothing to see then on top
00:41:10
of that now we're getting all these people coming forward towards the family and saying look we we witnessed
00:41:19
abuse happening at the Smith's family house yeah while she was still missing before the remains were found we have
00:41:27
some of those Witnesses going to the police because they're like oh wait this we we were concerned about this
00:41:34
situation before but sometimes you let sometimes you try to stay out of people's business a little bit and then
00:41:40
when you hear that this woman has gone missing they did the right thing and they went to police and say hey look
00:41:45
this is something we witnessed well and there's some like you said huge red flags you got Doug Smith AKA Doug
00:41:54
dingleberry is reported to backhander in front of other people MH I mean so so so
00:42:03
now as far as abusers you know it seems to me that Ashley is an abuser and Doug is a abuser
00:42:12
as well and now we have the other couple that was living there coming and and having their own
00:42:22
statements or or at least Cooperative with police mhm yeah it's a very weird and strange situation but I also want to
00:42:31
kind of underline this too a couple of things in fact one from what I've seen what I've
00:42:38
experienced when it comes to the cases that we've covered here in the garage we talk about this situation of Doug
00:42:45
backhanding Trish in front of Outsiders right people that don't live there usually when there's signs of abuse like
00:42:53
that in front of others there's much more going on behind the scenes worse stuff yeah and a lot more of it and so
00:43:03
that's of great concern number one but then Factor this in go back to the family to Trisha's family who are
00:43:11
actively looking for her when she was still missing and then who knows if police think about that for a second two
00:43:19
family members were told that she was actually murdered and we found her remains some of her remains it's my
00:43:26
belief Captain there's a chance they were only told that because one of them had to submit their DNA so they could
00:43:32
test the remains to see if it was in fact Trish right then they swore those two to secrecy I in part wonder if they
00:43:41
didn't need the DNA to identify Trish if they were able to identify her on their
00:43:47
own is there a chance they wouldn't have told the family they were still behaving
00:43:51
as this would be a missing person's case as far as the public was concerned so much so that they told Grandma and the
00:43:57
aunt don't tell anybody else in the family that we found her remains don't tell them that it was a homicide can you
00:44:03
imagine your family members even extended family coming to you and asking you what happened to one of your family
00:44:10
members and you you have to lie to them or say I haven't heard anything for months for month after month after month
00:44:17
you're hurting at all kinds of emotional levels and you're not even able to tell
00:44:23
these people what happened to have them comfort you or to to talk about it together you're you're you're forced to
00:44:31
lie to them yeah well I'm looking at this right now and just you think about the witness that sees Doug backhand her
00:44:42
and he he hesitates he doesn't you have to react quickly because this is what can happen
00:44:51
you have to speak up when you see abuse it if not you're just as bad as the abuser because you're you're giving
00:45:01
you're giving them more opportunity and like you said if this is happening in front of people in the
00:45:09
public imagine the torture that is happening right you know let's let's not sugarcoat it let's not even call it
00:45:16
abuse this is torture well and I want to be fair to to those individuals they did come forward
00:45:24
they did tell the authorities about that and we do not know the specifics the details of that situation that man could
00:45:31
have very likely stepped in and said hey don't do that again Doug yeah don't do that again I mean or he could have
00:45:38
pulled her pulled him off of her we we don't know right right we don't know for sure but if you went to police and they
00:45:44
didn't act on it then it's like you know I'm just saying when you see something say
00:45:52
something mhm well and that's why they were searching those those properties because they are police are immediately
00:45:59
suspicious of the Smiths once they've been able to confirm a couple things one Trish was in fact living there there is
00:46:07
that report that came in once she was publicly announced to be missing of that couple coming forward and saying hey we
00:46:14
witnessed some form of abuse and that's why they were searching not only the Smith's place that they
00:46:20
were staying at the time when Trish went missing but also these other two properties because I think when they
00:46:26
hear and get this legitimate look the person that comes forward has no dog in the fight so you believe them you
00:46:36
believe that they're saying oh I witnessed some abuse right you're going all right well if they were abusing her
00:46:42
or or Doug or just one of them was abusing her they may have done something horrible to this woman this is before
00:46:49
you even know she's dead may have done something horrible to her and they're hiding and concealing the body somewhere
00:46:55
and and so let's search every property that we can tie the Smiths to now after that press release where the police and
00:47:04
the Attorney General finally admit that it was a homicide and that they found Remains The Valley News pressed
00:47:12
Assistant Attorney General Jeff Sten about this case and stzen said there wasn't much he could add publicly he
00:47:22
declined to say whether authorities had identified any sus ects in haynes's death saying quote we don't typically
00:47:30
name suspects that's all I'm going to say at this point and quote but as we know Captain there were suspects and
00:47:41
currently there still are suspects currently in 2021 there are still suspects in several
00:47:47
of them Trish Haynes was last scene in May of 2018 she was reported missing there were
00:47:54
crime scenes that were ident identified remains that were found in September of 2018 again some of the family ordered
00:48:02
not to share with other family members the findings and throughout 2019 where we left off in our timeline
00:48:14
there's no arrest made there's no new leads doesn't appear to be any new evidence why what are they doing with
00:48:21
this investigation this murder remains unsolved the killer or Killers have not been held accountable
00:48:32
and as you pointed out Captain this is abuse this is torture if these people killed Trish
00:48:39
haes I guarantee you the last days for her were torture so much more to get to stick
00:48:56
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