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[Music] O'Fallon Illinois December 31st 1999. New Year's Eve twenty-year-old Eastern Illinois
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University student Amy blumberg was working a day shift at the onstage dance apparel store
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the store is a small Standalone store owned by Amy's aunt and uncle the store was located at 138 Eagle Drive
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just a stone's throw from U.S Highway 50 and not far at all from Interstate 64. it was the holiday season and Amy was on
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winter break from her college courses at Eastern Illinois University it was a Friday and because it was New
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Year's Eve it was expected to be a rather slow day at the dance store Amy was working alone
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around 6 PM Amy's parents Ken and Sue blumber began receiving phone calls from Amy's friends
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they were wondering where Amy was Amy had plans to spend the evening with some of these friends to celebrate the new
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year her mother Sue made multiple calls to the store trying to reach Amy without success
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after a couple of hours and was still no word from their daughter they became increasingly concerned
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they decided to drive to the store the blumbergs arrived at the store around 9pm
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when they pulled into the lot they observed Amy's car still parked in the lot the lights were on inside the store by
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now the store should have been closed and Amy should have left long before 9 pm Amy's parents parked their vehicle and
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both of them hurried to the front door of the business they found the door unlocked
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after entering the store Amy's parents saw Blood on the door jamb of the entryway to the hall in the back of the
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store Sue stayed in the front portion of the store and immediately called 9-1-1 to
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request an ambulance Ken went to the back part of the store where he encountered a tremendous amount of blood
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in the back hallway Ken came back to the front part of the store and told Sue that they were too
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late then they went outside and waited until police arrived at the scene this True Crime garage
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[Music] New Year's Eve is a day when many choose to move on from the past year and look
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forward to the bright days in the new year to come if last year wasn't your best year well don't worry about it next
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year we'll certainly be better and if last year was great well then get ready for maybe the best year of your life all
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starting tomorrow it's a day and night that is often celebrated with dancing eating drinking singing and sometimes
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even fireworks the celebrations generally go on past midnight into January 1st New Year's Day now sadly in
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Eastern Illinois for many there was nothing to celebrate only sorrow and grief while many Americans were bracing for
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the Y2K scare the blumbergs were wondering what happened to their daughter and the O'Fallon Police Department just
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caught a murder investigation officers with the O'Fallon Police Department arrived on the scene shortly after 9 pm
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officer Schaefer and Stover entered the store together the store itself looked as they had
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expected it looked normal but behind a door on the left side of the store they spotted blood there was a trail of
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blood and blood spatter on the floor of a small hallway behind this door down the hall the first door was to the
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men's bathroom the officers noticed a pool of blood on the floor of the bathroom the hallway
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then continued to the right where the blood trail continued as well that hallway at the door to the women's
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bathroom inside this store the officers found the body of a female on the floor the officers checked for a pulse
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confirmed that she was dead and went outside to secure the scene unfortunately the deceased was Amy
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blumberg she was born September 28 1979. she was just 20 years old a junior at Eastern Illinois University
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taken Way Too Soon by some unknown killer Amy was survived by her parents and brother
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in the coming days hundreds gathered at the Grand Ballroom in the Student Union at Eastern Illinois University
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this was a memorial service for Amy a room full of classmates friends and her sisters from Sigma Kappa
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so many wonderful people had so many wonderful things to say and fond memories to share that day her mother
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said at the service that quote God will get us through this now Captain before we get into the
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investigation I'd like to go through some of the evidence that was found and recovered at the crime scene
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so back at the dance store crime scene technicians arrived at the scene of the murder at 9 35 pm on
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December 31st 1999. they immediately located a person keys on top of a counter in the store
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the cash register in the store appeared to be undisturbed they found blood on a door frame about one foot off of the
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floor leading to the hallway looking at the blood trail in the hallway it appears that someone was
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dragged across the carpet towards the men's bathroom in the men's bathroom they located a pair of nylon pants
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underwear socks and Tennis Shoes then the blood trail LED from the men's room to the women's restroom the victim's
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body was lying on the floor she was nude from the waist down and bullet evidence
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was found at the scene so what we have here Captain is when unfortunately the blumbergs arrive at
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the dance store to look for their daughter Amy the first thing that they notice is that
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her vehicle is still in the parking lot and that the door to the business itself
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was unlocked right from my understanding when you walk into the store and scan the store everything looked and
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appeared as normal however if you walked in further you would start seeing signs
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of a struggle and seeing this Blood Trail in this hallway at the back of the store that would tell
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you something horrible had happened and as we just described with this Blood Trail and what the police and
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technician's perception of this Trail was that somebody was dragged it looks like our victim Amy was attacked and
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then possibly moved once or twice to where she is finally found in the women's restroom can you explain this
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dance store a little bit better for the listeners it's a dance apparel store I don't know everything that they sold but
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that was their key product that they were peddling and the store itself was relatively new again this is not a
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holiday but it's the day before a holiday and as we see often a lot of times we have shortened hours on days
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like this and that was the case here from my understanding as well but she was the only one working at this store
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at this time well like you said it was the day before a holiday so it's shortened hours so let's dive into the
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timeline of this case Okay using the experts opinions and some known facts of the case we can get a pretty firm
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timeline for the day in question now we know that the door to the store was found unlocked when
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Amy's parents arrived at 9 00 PM but we can likely get rid of about three hours that are in question on this day here
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because of a couple of things one the store was scheduled to close at 6 pm shortly after six this is when Amy's
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parents are notified by at least one of Amy's friends that they could not get in
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touch with her so whatever happened had to have happened before 6 PM or Amy would have just closed the store left
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and went about her business for the day well like you said the door was unlocked
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her car was in the same position it was when she got there and no contact with friends or family
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through at least a telephone anyways yeah so something would have happened at 6 PM or prior preventing Amy from
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closing the store and going with her friends also there's a side note here that I think is key Amy was given
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permission to close even earlier if the store was really slow now the coroner gave an estimated time
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of death of 4 pm and we usually know that that's more of a window of time less of an exact time
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but using that let's go through some of these other details so we have the cash register which showed the last sale was
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recorded for a 29.96 pair of black leotards this was at 2 26 pm so if the corner is correct and the
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register is right well then the Killer was in the store sometime between 2 26 pm and roughly 4 P.M as given the
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estimated time of death so roughly uh hour and a half window we can go back before 2 26 p.m before this recorded
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sale because we have in this case two eyewitnesses we have a father and daughter these are customers
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that were in the store that day the gentleman's name is Leroy Yager he told detectives that he and his
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daughter arrived at the On Stage store around 12 30 p.m on December 31st 1999. the purpose for the visit was to
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exchange a purchase for his daughter that was too small when they arrived this again at
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approximately 12 30 PM the store was closed with a sign indicating that the clerk would be returning soon Leroy
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figures this was a lunch break that makes sense given the time of day so Leroy and his daughter went to lunch at
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a place nearby when they returned to the store the store is open so the two walked in
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this is when Leroy noticed a male customer who Leroy estimated to be in his 40s looking through
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the clothing racks Leroy's daughter then proceeded to try on several leotards until she found the
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correct size now while doing so Leroy was busy speaking with Amy the solo store clerk at that time right Leroy's
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daughter overheard the male customer asked Amy if they sold dance shoes in the store
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then the man left the store a short time after this then Leroy and his daughter they
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complete their purchase and then they left the store but to be perfectly clear here
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Leroy's purchase was not the 2 26 PM purchase in question right later that evening when he learned that Amy had
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been found dead in the store he contacted the O'Fallon Police Department ultimately working with a sketch artist
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to create a likeness of the man he saw in the store obviously police want to speak with this
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man because you have two situations that are possible either he's a potential eyewitness with
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additional information that they need or he's somebody that they may want to consider as a person of interest or a
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suspect in this case yeah because he could have came into the store by himself and basically surveillance the
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area Leroy described the man's clothing as washed out jeans with a dark colored jacket he recalled that the jacket
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reminded him of a ski coat he also told police that there were two vehicles in the parking lot while they were there
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and he described them as a black car and a maroon car remember this is a stand-alone store
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that does not share a parking lot with other businesses and the lot itself is rather small so
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it's one of those situations captain that you pull into the lot and you're pretty sure that the vehicles that
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you're seeing belong to the store either there are people working there or customers inside this store when it
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seemed like Amy parked in the front of the store which some stores were like that there's no back parking for
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employees well what we can figure out here is one of these vehicles is Amy's so what we need to know is who does that
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other vehicle belong to so as you can see we are dealing with a short window of time here we know that
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Leroy and his daughter did not go into the store until after 12 30 PM because when they first arrived
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the store was closed briefly right he says that they had lunch they went back to the store so even conservatively
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we're looking at probably at least 1 p.m probably later in fact that they returned to the store and they are in
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the store well this is good for law enforcement that it's a stand-alone store with a standalone parking lot
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because you have people driving by that could give you some kind of account you hear on the news that this young
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girl is murdered maybe you drove by and saw which cars were in the parking lot around that time so that is a good thing
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for law enforcement and to close up our time our window of time here even more again we have Leroy and his daughter in
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the store they're in the store long enough for Leroy to make several observations
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to chit chat with Amy exchange their previous purchase all before leaving so now we are probably
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looking at 1 30 at the very earliest that they are departing the store I think it's likely closer to two or maybe
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even 215 but to stay conservative we can say Leroy left the store at 1 30 p.m maybe
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later and everything was fine at the time that he left then a sale recorded on the
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register at 2 26 pm so still business as usual and then we have the estimated time of
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death is roughly 4 P.M kinda reminds you of a couple of other cases doesn't it Captain several that we
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have covered in fact here in the garage but to keep it brief I'm just going to name two real quick one solved that's
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the super bikes case and one unsolved yogurt shop where we have information from eyewitnesses from persons patrons
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at these businesses that are telling us one the times that they were in the business and what they
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saw while they were there another thing going for law enforcement is Leroy is you're not looking at Leroy as just the
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eyewitness at first you have to put him in the person of interest category but because they have such a solid timeline
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then they can quickly figure out if Leroy has an alibi because it's possible that Leroy goes to the store with his
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daughter and then comes back but I believe they were able to figure out that Leroy himself had an alibi for
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the time of where they think the murder took place yeah that's exactly right and
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I don't think that at any time they were looking at this individual as a suspect what you have here is you have
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a conflict and that conflict immediately is two things you find this young woman working by
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herself at a store who is murdered you have a short window of time of when that murder could have
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taken place and now you're asking the public hey anybody that was at the store here that
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day please come forward with information and help us out you have two very different things you have Leroy who was
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there with his daughter coming forward with helpful information and you have an unknown man who is not coming forward
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with any information at all I'm just saying that if I'm law enforcement I'm going to do my due diligence and make
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sure that Leroy has an alibi for the time and make sure that he didn't have some conversation with this young
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girl and decide to come back well of course yes I I would hope that they would be as diligent as you their
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Captain well somebody's a condescending dick today it does very much remind me of both of those cases Superbikes and
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yogurt shop because in both of those cases we have detectives who are looking for that
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quote last customer or the very last person in the store before the [ __ ] hit the fan we do have
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some of the autopsy information here in this case they found several bruises on different portions of the body
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indicating a struggle signs that Amy defended herself she was shot once at close range or what is listed as an
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indeterminate range again this was just one shot it was an indeterminate range but it is
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listed at a close range there was an entry wound to the back of her left ear and an exit wound in front of her right
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ear in the doctor's opinion the bullet wound would have caused a rapid death but we do have some forensic evidence so
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let's dive into that a red substance was found on the carpet in front of the cash
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register this was determined to be human blood matching Amy's DNA blood and debris was found on a dress on a rack in
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the front of the store human blood was found on the hallway door frame as we had already mentioned there were several
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hairs that were collected from the body and the victim's clothing that did not belong to the victim
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a hair was collected from the victim's right ankle a single bullet was recovered from the
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scene this was a 38 caliber bullet with six lands and grooves with a right twist
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this particular bullet was from a 38 caliber class of bullets and given the bullets weight design and bearing
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surface this bullet was consistent with a 38 automatic caliber bullet between the 38 caliber revolvers and the
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38 caliber special derringers there were 49 different possibilities for make and model of the gun that was
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used in this crime now experts at the time when asked how many of these types of guns were in
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circulation they put the guess at well this would be in the millions they said it's
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fascinating how many different models and types of guns there are so police needed a gun for comparison purposes
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with this bullet that they found this wasn't a unique situation that was unique enough that they were able to
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really hone in on exactly the make and model that they were looking for and police were also asking the public for
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help as we said they were looking for anybody that had been in the store that day and
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frankly as you pointed out Captain do your due diligence they're probably looking for anybody that had been in the
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store anytime at all if you want to come forward with any bit of information that you think was
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suspicious or of could be of some importance to the case right and possibly like I said before the
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eyewitness is driving by because we have a single store with a single parking lot
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that somebody did somebody see a certain vehicle around four o'clock they could come forward and let you know and then
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also there's some businesses around there so what time did those employees get off did
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[Music] all right we are back cheers to you Colonel cheers everybody a Happy New Year's cheers to everybody out
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there yes as we said the police were asking the public for help in Amy's case and specifically they announced that
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they are looking for a white middle-aged man who was a customer in the Dance Shop
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the day of the murder they described this individual as five feet six inches to five foot eight inches tall wearing
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blue jeans a gray t-shirt white tennis shoes and a dark ski jacket so police need your help and then in this case
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Captain this is this is interesting I I love to see the different tactics that are used by different jurisdictions and
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what unique crimes generate different unique tactics and this is something that's not
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terribly uncommon but they set up a special 24-hour phone line so this was a voicemail phone line
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that is set up to record tips for police and detectives you could call any time of day
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and you could leave any information that you want there and because it's a voicemail I'm
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guessing it's Anonymous maybe they can track your or trace your your call if they want but from my understanding they
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were putting out the vibe to everybody that these are going to be Anonymous that you could call
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anonymously and leave your information what they have here and what they bring in and this is one thing that I think is
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Paramount to any case and I love when I see investigators and police departments
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doing this they very quickly identify that this case is problematic for many reasons and
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so they're not above calling in help and so what they get here is they get 18 investigators from the Greater St Louis
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area from the major case Squad who were assisting in the case and the FBI was called in as well
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in O'Fallon they had a three detective unit that we're all putting in very long hours to try to find the killer who the
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newspaper said shot Amy blumberg in the head for no obvious reason on New Year's
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Eve Police Captain Jim Stover said that the detectives will be working on the case as long as I need them and that
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overtime was not a concern And in regards to the comment of shot for no obvious reason I believe is
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warranted as the police were seeking not only a suspect but they were trying to figure out a motive for this as well
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right per the information released to the public the store was not robbed and Amy's car was found undisturbed in the
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parking lot of the dance store but she was found nude from the waist down so possible sexual motive in just a couple
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of days a five thousand dollar reward for information was put together this was from donors that reward would grow
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to over eighteen thousand dollars within a couple of months and then something happened that I'm
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sure many in the area were thinking might happen as the investigation dragged on right due to the lack of an
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obvious motive detectives were looking into similar cases 20 other murder cases in fact spanning from Maryland to
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Washington State specifically they were checking into possible parallels with the one that was called
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the interstate 70 or the I-70 killer well because this dance shop it's how far away from I-70 it's not terribly
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far and it's also within the range of states that these some of these killings were taking place
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similar descriptions of the individual exactly so what we have here is the I-70 killer eight years prior to Amy
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blumberg's murder had shot and killed store clerks for no apparent reason along the same
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Interstate in several States including the St Louis area which we are talking about the greater being very near the
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Greater St Louis area here with this case and like the I-70 victims Amy blumberg was working alone in a low
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traffic specialty store she was shot once in the head in the middle of the afternoon the store was
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not robbed Captain Stover is quoted as saying we have no evidence whatsoever to indicate that this homicide is related
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to the I-70 murders but on the other hand we have no evidence that it is not there are a lot of things that are
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similar and a lot of things that are dissimilar end quote right just to fill everybody in in case anybody's wondering
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the I-70 killer is a still unidentified serial killer that is known to have killed six store clerks in the midwest
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in the spring of 1992 the nickname derives from the fact that several of the stores in which the
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victims worked were located a few miles off of Interstate 70. his victims were usually young women all of the stores
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attacked were specialty stores and were usually only robbed of very small amounts of cash right he is also
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suspected of shooting three more store clerks in Texas during 1993 and 1994 one of which survived also there is a 2001
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murder of a store clerk in Terre Haute Indiana this is believed to possibly be connected to the I-70 case as well due
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to the lack of leads in Amy's case and given the similarities in these scenarios Amy's case was easy to try to
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fit in with the I-70 cases well and if you're not following us on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram what are you doing
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with your life we'll put a composite sketch of the I-70 killer on our social media now the I-70 killer case has been
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covered extensively the case was featured on Unsolved Mysteries America's Most Wanted and dark minds and as said
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the Killer is yet to be identified and police have not publicly identified any suspects save but one and we'll get to
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that here in a bit now in Amy's case the O'Fallon Police Department did release two
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composite sketches of persons that they would like to talk to along with those descriptions given one
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of which was the male customer seen in the dance store and the other was of a man that was seen in a nearby store
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behaving suspiciously on the same day of the shooting so I want to be clear here because this is a
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little bit difficult these are two composite sketches that they're putting out at the same time right and the
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police are telling you this one is given from one eyewitness who says I saw this man in the dance store this is
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what he looked like on the day in question the other is from a separate eyewitness at a different location that
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says this man who looks like this description was behaving weird that day apparently
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there was a guy in some business and I I want to say that it was a real estate office I I had it in my notes somewhere
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here Captain but I can't find it at the moment but the interaction was strange because the person was saying this was a
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a female eyewitness says this man approached me and he kept asking if I was alone or if there was anybody else
00:36:29
in the building and then he left now the caveat here that police are throwing out
00:36:35
to the public is look we're not saying that this guy is the same guy but doesn't mean it's
00:36:44
not right they're saying he could be the same guy but we want you to be well aware that these are two descriptions
00:36:51
coming they're they're actually similar descriptions these are two descriptions coming from two different eyewitnesses
00:36:57
that were at two different locations at different times of the day so they're they're throwing out that that warning
00:37:03
that buyer beware to to the public that this could be the same person it also could not be the same person so
00:37:10
don't lock in on that too much and don't bother yourself with that too much we just want to know if you can Mr public
00:37:18
come forward with any information on either of these composite sketch drawing what I do know from doing this podcast
00:37:25
for so many years there's so many cases where it's washed out jeans and some dark colored jacket
00:37:34
that is not the look that I'm ever going to go for ever well it's just like the Delphi case you have people coming
00:37:42
forward they're like uh this man must have must be responsible because he was wearing a blue jacket and jeans
00:37:49
um news flash most of America wears a blue jacket and jeans most men in their 30s their 40s in America at 1999 were
00:37:59
wearing dark jackets and jeans so while this individual Leroy and his daughter are trying to be very helpful
00:38:06
unfortunately the clothing is pretty much nondescript well yeah because this is like the uniform of the guy that has
00:38:14
given up I got I just wear my old faded jeans and and some jacket some dark jacket that's it you just described me
00:38:22
although I've not given up but I've I'm also not giving up my [ __ ] jeans or black jacket here's some interesting
00:38:29
things though captain and these may all be coincidental the dance apparel store was relatively
00:38:36
new and these are like just some sad again when we cover these you find these little tidbits of information that just
00:38:44
make the story even more tragic and even more happenstance right that this is is
00:38:51
almost a little more random the dance apparel store was relatively new again it's a small building itself and only
00:38:59
about a year old the business is only about a year old at the time of the crime and it never opens again after Amy
00:39:07
is killed and in fact they put it on the real estate market one month after the murder doors never open up again
00:39:14
so it's listed for sale in early February of 2000. Amy was the owner's niece she was only
00:39:25
working there because she's on winter break from college and likely covering and working by herself on a day that
00:39:34
they were expecting very low traffic and probably very few customers at all so Amy is killed on the
00:39:42
last day of 1999 by early March 2000 police had ditched the two composite sketches of the men that they wanted to
00:39:53
interview now I've said this plenty of times here in the garage Captain I am a fan of the composite sketches as they
00:40:00
always generate a lot of calls and a lot of information coming into police but the big problem always seems to be the
00:40:10
same people have a tendency to hyperbolize these sketches right I know this sounds
00:40:16
like I am stating the obvious but it clearly is not so obvious to the masses so I'll say it anyway it's not a picture
00:40:24
it's not a photograph of the suspect in this case it's just a sketch of persons that law enforcement want to
00:40:32
identify and interview it's not a picture it's a sketch of a person as described by another person with a
00:40:40
fallible memory who is doing their best to to piece together the likeness of this
00:40:47
individual that they saw at a time when they didn't know they were supposed to be paying so much attention to
00:40:52
everything but also we have cases where we actually have photographs but maybe the
00:40:59
maybe the photograph is a little bit blurry or pixelated so it's hard to make out and then individual like you said
00:41:06
the composite sketches I think it's a good thing I think having a picture is a great
00:41:11
thing too but I think sometimes it it leads to people going they're trying to help
00:41:17
but they go oh I gotta I got a buddy that lives out of state who's never even been in this state but he kind of looks
00:41:24
like that guy I should probably call so I think there it becomes sometimes that they actually
00:41:30
get too many leads right and I'm not trying to fault the eyewitnesses for trying to help they are simply giving a
00:41:37
description of someone that they saw often you know this case thankfully with Leroy he's calling in that night
00:41:47
and he's so it's a little more recent but often times we're talking about somebody trying to give a description of
00:41:54
someone that they saw 24 48 72 hours earlier when they themselves were just going about every day normal activities
00:42:03
so often these Witnesses they do not know or would not have any way of knowing that they are looking at someone
00:42:11
that at a later time it might be important to be able to describe that person in great
00:42:18
detail and when I worked at the bank this is something that we actually did to practice they would give us a
00:42:25
scenario and maybe it was on video footage and we were told to pay attention and then we were told to give
00:42:31
the best description as we could and yes if you do it more often more frequent you get better at it but it's pretty
00:42:40
astonishing how bad some people are well and then when we talk about yes it's great because a lot of information comes
00:42:47
in a lot of tips a lot of calls come in but the reverse of that is you have to take into consideration this would
00:42:54
anybody like to try to come up with an accurate over and under number for the tips calls email submissions and social
00:43:01
media side by sides that were wrong in the Delphi case right how about the hundreds of tips called in in 1989 1990
00:43:11
and 91 in the Amy mihalovic case which still is yet to see an arrest here police did the right thing this is
00:43:19
something that I've not seen done very often we've seen it once or twice but they are forced to scrap the composite
00:43:26
and not just scrap the composite they come out and they tell the public please disregard and forget about the
00:43:36
Composites that we released the key they said at the same time is to focus heavy on the physical description
00:43:45
that we gave out so thanks for calling in but the guy you were calling about that looks just like the sketch in the
00:43:52
mahalovic case the suspect lives in California well he cannot be the abductor and killer if he physically was
00:43:57
not in Bay Village Ohio in 1989. and that's one of the things that we've had to deal with when we go do a live event
00:44:04
or we go to a conference somebody would come up and go I think the Killer is this guy
00:44:11
and the description of the Killer is let's say five six to five ten and the person that they think was the killer is
00:44:21
six four and you start by going well I think you you need to especially when there's a picture you need to be able to
00:44:30
match the picture but then also like you said match the description and that was
00:44:34
the problem the exact problem that they were having here right like just like you said if if we're looking for a guy
00:44:40
that that is of this description well then if you're calling about some guy that's four foot two inches or some guy
00:44:47
that's six foot ten inches tall you're calling us with the wrong person and that was the problem with the sketch in
00:44:54
the Amy blumberg case and in this case Captain Stover is telling the public look thank you people for coming forward
00:45:01
with information however we're scrapping these composite sketches and we're telling you public to forget about it
00:45:09
because tipsters that are calling in have been focusing solely on the face of this composite
00:45:17
sketch and totally ignoring other details of the man's General description and he says look we are spending a lot
00:45:25
of time and working a lot of leads from people who look at the composite but do not look at the description so
00:45:32
they're showing up to talk to some guy that yes his face might match that very general face that's in the
00:45:39
sketch but very quickly they can look at the guy and tell from any number of other reasons that this is probably not
00:45:48
a great lead we spent our time driving out here to meet this person we are wasting resources at the time when we're
00:45:56
we got this case with with this uh essentially even though they never announced it but we talked about the
00:46:03
major K Squad persons from the Greater St Louis area assisting and the FBI calling in so essentially what you have
00:46:10
here is a task force in the early days and months of this investigation but also know thyself
00:46:17
don't go around and act like expert if you're not and some of these people look all the people that I met that gave me
00:46:24
some far out there suspects to look into and plenty of cases that we've covered they all mean well they just don't
00:46:36
really understand that they have no clue what they're talking about on the one year anniversary of the murder the case
00:46:42
was still unsolved and it looks like the leads had pretty much dried up at that point the tip line did receive a lot of
00:46:49
calls and a lot of incoming information early on most of the calls were tips and
00:46:56
leads on persons who who were resembled the composite sketch none of those panned out in that year to
00:47:05
come the police interviewed they said they interviewed more than 225 people that all knew Amy and
00:47:13
the same one common theme that they found throughout all of those interviews captain
00:47:20
was we interviewed 225 people and came up with zero enemies for our victim and so they they come out and they say
00:47:30
look we can tell from everybody we spoke to that Amy was wholesome she was energetic she was well liked she was
00:47:37
kind and fun-loving her friends called her blums and police were now actively telling the
00:47:44
public we believe this was a stranger killing that was what they were calling it a
00:47:51
stranger killing they were focusing their search for a suspect on similar killings in other cities and states like
00:47:58
we said earlier with the I-70 cases Sue blumberg told the Bellevue news democrat quote
00:48:06
that's what makes this difficult to believe even after a year why would somebody do this to a person they don't
00:48:13
even know end quote police said that the FBI profilers and Quantico were adding to their study whenever the O'Fallon
00:48:23
Police Department fed them new information also proof that there's just evil people
00:48:29
out there O'Fallon Police Department come up with this Theory after working the case very hard that this is probably
00:48:35
a stranger killing and we don't have any of the experts to disagree with them we
00:48:41
have the major case Squad unit and we have the FBI agents in Quantico who seem to be all on
00:48:49
board with this theory that O'Fallon Police Department are now using and working in Amy's case
00:48:58
so this will bring us up to two years into the investigation the reward fund stopped growing by this point captain
00:49:06
now we're sitting at about twenty thousand dollars and the calls to the tip line were rare at this point Sue
00:49:14
blumberg after the case was opened still open the second year stated that it's in God's hands now when the time is
00:49:25
right something will happen well sadly let's go out another year then we get to three years later three
00:49:33
years after the Murder by this time the tip line had gone silent but police had not they told the
00:49:42
Bellevue news democrat there's somebody out there who knows something and people
00:49:47
eventually talk we are still looking for the last customer at the store that day
00:49:53
who bought a black leotard around 2 30 p.m we can't tell the size because they didn't keep track of that
00:50:03
and detective Jay Stanley had one last thing to say on the matter quote it's personal now we've become very close to
00:50:11
Sue and Ken blumberg Amy's parents and we would like to close this what's not clear captain
00:50:20
and Leroy's statement and I'd like to go back to the statement here because now we can see three years
00:50:26
later and it seems like it always has been from the get-go that a heavy focus and rightfully shut
00:50:35
and rightfully so is on this last customer but what's not clear about Leroy's statement to me and I'm sure it
00:50:42
probably was to police at the time because I'm sure they spoke with him extensively and on multiple occasions
00:50:47
but if both of these vehicles were parked in the lot when he and his daughter were in the store
00:50:57
it his statement as far as the way that it reaches us States these were the two vehicles that
00:51:05
I saw while we were there what we don't what we don't know and what we we cannot
00:51:10
tell from that statement is what exactly does that mean does that mean that these two vehicles were parked
00:51:18
in the parking lot when you arrived were they parked in the parking lot while you
00:51:22
were in the store where they parked in the parking lot when you left this is going to take us up to December 20th
00:51:28
2003. this is 11 days before the four-year anniversary of that terrible day when Amy was taken away
00:51:36
and a long-awaited announcement was made on this day the O'fallon authorities charged a
00:51:45
suspect in the 1999 East Illinois University students murder it took a messy divorce and a strange
00:51:56
ex-wife and almost four years who finally make an arrest in this case Edward Scott Phillips 37 years old who
00:52:06
also went by the names of Ed and Eddie was charged with first-degree murder police were looking at Edward Scott
00:52:15
Phillips for about two and a half weeks very quietly before actually charging him and announcing that they were
00:52:24
charging him with this murder to the public Edward Scott Phillips was already in
00:52:28
prison serving time on unrelated charges of burglary perjury and obstructing justice
00:52:36
it looks like all of those charges are in direct relation to Edward's ex-wife and their messy divorce from my
00:52:45
understanding captain I think she had moved on they were divorced Edward clearly had not moved on
00:52:53
and he had broken into her home broken into the home of the person he believed to be his ex-wife's boyfriend and he had
00:53:03
left threatening messages and threatening calls to both individuals so he's eventually picked up and charged
00:53:10
and put in uh jail or prison for those charges so he's already locked up and had been for a period of time before
00:53:18
police get to him to talk to him about Amy's case now before all of that mess Edward worked for the Illinois
00:53:28
Department of Corrections for which he drove a truck delivering food to different prisons
00:53:37
now the tip that comes out that leads law enforcement to their suspect after all
00:53:47
of these years really came out of the blue completely out of the blue the arrest came by way of a tip called
00:53:53
in from Edward's ex-wife Dawn she passed along her suspicions to her attorney her divorce attorney at the
00:54:02
time who then began talking with police what police Learned was that Edward owned a 38 caliber gun at the time of
00:54:13
the murder and that that night the night in question Edward came home with blood
00:54:18
on his clothes which at the time he had told his wife that his clothes were bloody
00:54:25
because he was forced to move a dead animal off of the road sounds fishy now Edward also fits the description
00:54:33
no matter how much you one argues how vague it is or not vague right he fits the description of the person
00:54:41
that the police were looking for as either a witness or suspect that last customer well it probably took
00:54:48
her a minute to come forward too because once he's in jail or prison like you said maybe she felt safe enough to go to
00:54:55
her attorney and say hey this guy should be looked at in this crime I think that's what you have here
00:55:03
I think that you have this wife who was suspicious about this sister situation all along
00:55:10
never brought it to anybody's attention until she felt like I don't have to worry about this guy doing something to
00:55:17
me the general description that we get of Edward now mind keep it keep in mind this is four years after the the
00:55:26
homicide at the time of his arrest he's five foot eight inches tall fits the height he's roughly 210 pounds with
00:55:34
brown hair and Hazel Eyes now at the time of the murder he lived about 130 miles roughly from the crime scene wow
00:55:43
now this is weird captain because when asked by detectives about the day in question
00:55:48
Edward Scott Phillips says he was the quote last customer that they had been looking for but he goes on to tell them
00:55:57
I did not kill Amy so detectives go and talk to this guy Edward Phillips who is already in prison
00:56:04
at the time anyway again his charges weren't particularly serious offenses compared to the other
00:56:11
cases we have discussed here today right but what what is his reason for buying these leotards well at the time I and I
00:56:18
I can't tell you what he told police because I don't know we don't have those statements but at the time of Amy's
00:56:23
murder Edward Phillips lived with his wife Don and his daughter in Mount Sterling Illinois so he admits that he
00:56:30
was at the dance store that day okay well this has got to make the detectives extremely suspicious right
00:56:37
from Jump Street right because here you have been asking the public for help in the case for damn near four years and at
00:56:44
no point does this guy come forward and say hey I was there that day this is what I know I would like to help this
00:56:51
poor family the police and the community but instead no he chose to do nothing well like you said he lived over 130
00:56:59
miles away so right out of the gate with this guy you're already you already know
00:57:03
one of two things either this guy is a soulless gutless loser or he's your killer
00:57:11
now look even the devil hates a loser so if I'm in there questioning this guy I'm
00:57:17
thinking he's probably both he's everything we just said and he's probably our guy right his General story
00:57:24
Captain was that he drove out of town to attend I believe he said a gun show but there
00:57:32
was something that he drove to this area and he was looking he he had a destination that was not the dance store
00:57:41
he couldn't find that destination so he decides to turn around and start heading
00:57:46
home and when he heads home he sees this dance store and he thinks that he's going to stop in and buy something for
00:57:51
his daughter I do not like the cut of this guy's gym well it gets it gets so much worse so he he already tells police
00:57:59
that yes I was in the store that day but you gotta you gotta listen if you pay if you don't pay any attention to
00:58:07
anything else that we've said so far today in this case pay attention to this not only does he tell police yes I was
00:58:13
the last customer that was in the store that day I I'm the guy that you were looking for
00:58:18
uh as far as that final charge on the register the final sale on the register that was recorded
00:58:26
but he says Hey I was in the store on that day in question by myself I bought something for my daughter then I left
00:58:33
the store a short time later I returned to the store because I decided to return the
00:58:39
item or exchange the item he says that when he arrived he couldn't find the store clerk
00:58:46
instead he finds a trail of blood he follows the trail which leads him eventually to Amy's body he says that he
00:58:54
then panicked because he had an unregistered firearm in his possession on that day
00:59:00
so he decides to flee the scene drives back to his home in Mount Sterling again about 130 miles away
00:59:07
and disposing of the unregistered pistol along the way he gets home and his wife
00:59:14
sees blood on his pants he says I have got blood on my clothing because I had to move a dead animal off the road that
00:59:21
gun that Edward disposed of and the murder weapon which I and many others firmly believed to be one in the same
00:59:27
has never been located right after Phillips and his wife Don got divorced they were in this heated child custody
00:59:37
battle and that's when Don told her attorney the attorney tells the police about the
00:59:43
blood stains on Edward's pants on the night of December 31st 1999. this of course leading them
00:59:50
to question him so unfortunately the weight continued for those Seeking Justice for Amy the trial against this
01:00:00
scumbag took some time to get to Edward entered a plea if not guilty at trial prosecutors showed the members of the
01:00:09
jury an empty box for 38 caliber pistol bullets found in Phillips Home which would match the small caliber bullets
01:00:23
that killed Amy Bloomberg and the prosecution had a man testify a man who knew Edward
01:00:30
Phillips this man testified that he sold a pistol to Edward and the prosecution had the bill of sale
01:00:39
with Edward's signature on it and evidence so this gun that he admits was unregistered he has it on him at the
01:00:47
time of the murder and he disposes of it shortly after Amy is killed matches the caliber
01:00:55
that killed our victim and we have proof positive from his own words and from this gentleman who sold him the gun and
01:01:05
kept this bill of sale with Edward's signature on it all of these years later and like you said law enforcement was
01:01:11
looking for this last customer for years never comes forward and then when they actually do talk to him he's like oh
01:01:17
well not only was I the last customer I went back in and I saw that she was murdered and I I didn't come forward I
01:01:25
didn't tell anybody so you want to talk about putting painting yourself into a corner that's
01:01:31
exactly what this knob head did and there's going to be some people that will say oh man I I can see why he
01:01:39
panicked and he just kind of freaked out and yeah maybe he wasn't thinking clearly but here's the thing
01:01:45
at the end of the day they have the evidence to match the bullet to the gun that killed this
01:01:53
poor young woman even if you are in possession of a firearm with you that day they can very
01:01:58
quickly go yep that doesn't match the bullet that killed this young woman right so just just by having a gun doesn't
01:02:06
make you guilty of anything you could have if he was innocent which he's clearly not uh he could have helped
01:02:14
in this situation well he doesn't know what the actual murder weapon is or he shouldn't if he's innocent he shouldn't
01:02:20
know so it could be a nine millimeter or 22 or see what I'm saying so the fact that he would get rid of his gun when
01:02:28
you don't even know what the murder weapon would be if you were innocent right not not to mention the fact that
01:02:33
there would be uh intricate markings on that would be able to tell exactly which
01:02:39
gun fired that bullet now despite what the defense called only circumstantial evidence the jury only needed 24 hours
01:02:47
of deliberation and on May 29 2007 Edward Phillips was found guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to 55
01:02:56
years in prison without parole at sentencing Edward Phillips who declined to testify at trial turned to Amy's
01:03:04
parents and told them quote I did I didn't kill your daughter if you didn't commit this crime you
01:03:11
wouldn't be freaking out you call 9-1-1 they come you have an unregistered gun and then you tell them do a ballistic
01:03:18
test I never shot my gun today well and what's interesting here too even all of these years later is that
01:03:27
well Amy's case while it was looked at in in consideration to be a part of the series of the I-70 Killers cases
01:03:37
well that cannot be the case if Edward Scott Phillips is not the I-70 killer because Edward Scott Phillips regardless
01:03:48
of what he said to Amy's parents I believe and so do everybody else including that jury the only people that
01:03:55
matter they believe he is the Killer and I think that you could the defense can call it
01:04:01
whatever they want circumstantial evidence whatever it looks to me like a pretty good mountain of evidence
01:04:06
convicted this guy and they found the right guy now for some quick follow-up on the I-70 killer case our long time
01:04:14
listeners know that we covered the case in depth over two years ago if anybody would like to go back and listen to
01:04:21
those episodes that's true crime garage episodes 4 41 and 442 from November of 2020. great episodes if I'd say so
01:04:30
myself thank you you did you did an excellent job I mean your part was okay but my
01:04:36
part it was some of my best work my part was lacking at best lacklusters as some
01:04:43
of the reviews stated since then there has been some movement on the I-70 cases in October of 2021 we get updated
01:04:53
suspect composite sketches now a little bit more of my rant here Captain this is the part where I have a
01:05:02
big problem WTHR who I know does some great work I've read a lot of their articles over
01:05:08
the years but this is aware they this was very disappointing to me because they titled their article
01:05:17
authorities with Saint Charles Police Department in Missouri released age-enhanced photos of the suspected
01:05:26
I-70 killer these are not photos nobody would look at these and go those are photos but
01:05:33
again the masses sometimes have trouble understanding and comprehending exactly what's going on and if you tell them
01:05:40
that they're photos there are going to be some people out there that believe that these are photos these are sketches
01:05:45
that they are releasing to the public of an unknown individual sketches of an unknown individual will never be as
01:05:52
accurate as a photo so I think it's just I think it's poor reporting to call them
01:05:57
photos yeah definitely poor reporting which you don't get on this show I don't want it to make its I don't want
01:06:04
to seem like we're coming down hard on people that see an image and go well that could be my neighbor or that looks
01:06:11
kind of like my uncle and maybe he was responsible because again when people go out of their way to
01:06:18
actually call in call in these tips their gut is telling them I I should call in because worst case scenario I'm
01:06:28
wrong but if I don't call in they don't have this information so I know that there's
01:06:34
a lot of people out there that see these sketches I mean that's one of the reasons why in the Delphi case they said
01:06:39
hey stop comparing these people online that's that's not going to help the case any
01:06:46
and I would argue in the Delphi case that the man they arrested does not look much like the first composite sketch or
01:06:53
the second composite sketch maybe he looks somewhere he to me looks somewhere in between
01:06:59
the following month a month after we get these updated suspect composite sketches
01:07:08
uh in November of 2021 Terre Haute police announced that the I-70 killer was a possible suspect in a 2001 murder
01:07:17
of a liquor store clerk his name was Billy brosman the crime went down like this on the
01:07:25
evening of November 30th 2001 brosman was working alone at the 7th and 70th liquor store in Terre Haute Indiana
01:07:33
security camera footage showed a white male suspect entered the store and pull a gun on brosman and robbed the cash
01:07:42
register the footage then showed the suspect Lee brossman to the back of the store and murder him with a single shot
01:07:49
to the back of the head the murder of brassman occurred just seven blocks from the murder of Michael McCown and was
01:07:58
similar in MO to the I-70 murders unlike in the I-70 murders though we have security footage of brosman's
01:08:07
killer that exists and police have stated that they have a person of interest in the case so they're they're
01:08:14
telling us hey the this could be connected it also may not be if this person of interest pans out
01:08:22
and he is not tied to any of these other killings then we get this intriguing update from
01:08:29
KMOV News 4 that reads the person identified earlier this week as the I-65 serial killer is now being looked at as
01:08:40
a possible suspect in the I-70 murders with a local task force scrambling to compare notes with police authorities in
01:08:49
Indiana so this would be information from last year captain and they go on to say the
01:08:56
Indiana State Police have announced that numerous pieces of DNA evidence tied Harry Edward Greenwell to three Motel
01:09:05
Highway killings in Indiana and Kentucky between 1987 and 1990. the I-70 killings
01:09:12
happened just two years later as we know in 1992 Greenwell this guy who they already know killed
01:09:21
three people died of cancer in 2013 at the age of 68. the I-65 killer was also known as the
01:09:30
day's end killer his first victim was at a Super 8 motel in Elizabethtown Kentucky before he killed
01:09:40
again at the Days Inn in Merrillville Indiana and then finally at the Remington Indiana Days Inn police say
01:09:48
Greenwell attacked a fourth victim later at the Days Inn in Columbia Indiana but
01:09:53
she survived and gave police a composite sketch which matched Greenwell quote we
01:09:59
are talking with the Indiana task force said detective Raymond Floyd who is heading up the St Louis task force
01:10:05
investigating the I-70 murders right now it's preliminary but there are definitely some similarities and we are
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going to pursue them also last year in 2022 we get confirmation that DNA evidence exists in the I-70 killer case
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and was sent away for testing police have said that DNA testing results were back they received the results back last
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year they had some material from the April 1992 Terre Haute case this was the murder of Michael McCown
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that had DNA evidence on it they sent it out for testing last year they get this
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results back however due to the active investigation investigators are not sharing the results currently from that
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testing because they have said several other agencies other police agencies and other jurisdictions have evidence that
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is currently being processed or will be processed and tested soon so the police are reminding the public
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and all of these jurisdictions that involve the I-70 cases that they're refusing to call the I-70
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cases cold and I say rightfully so look at all the activity in these cases it looks more and more
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likely that maybe even 30 years later that we are finally going to get some answers and some of these still unsolved
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homicide cases all I gotta say is winner winner chicken dinner if it's confirmed
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like you said it is that they have DNA that gives me a lot of hope that the I-70 serial killer case could be solved
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in 2023. foreign [Music] again we want to thank you for our awesome 2022 onward and upward in 2023
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Colonel do we have any recommended reading for the beautiful listeners first one of the Year this week we are
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recommending the shadow of death the hunt for the Connecticut River Valley killer available in paperback Kendall
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and now audiobook on Audible this is by Peter Ginsberg and it's a complete breakdown of the Connecticut River
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Valley killer case which was one of the last cases we covered here in the garage
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at the end of last year so check out the shadow of death the hunt for the Connecticut River Valley Killer by Peter
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Ginsburg and if you are driving or if you are at the gym and you can't write down that title always know that you can
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go to our website truecrime garage.com click on on the recommended Tab and you will find that great title there for you
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along with many more yes and we'll see you back in the True Crime garage Batcave next week and until then be good
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be kind and don't litter [Music] foreign