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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] in my hand Captain I hold a true crime
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garage Tumblr glass it's only noon so I have seven up in the glass but I tell you what I'm very happy with these
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glasses the way they turned out man they the uh the weight is perfect the size is
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perfect with them but here I am I want want to have a celebratory drink with you so I raise my seven up because it
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sounds like face it sounds like they may have solved or at least we're getting very close to an arrest regarding the
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Aurora Hammer Slayer case yes so we covered this in January of of this year which was kind of shocking to me it
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seemed like a long time ago that we covered it but the it seems like a couple years it didn't it yeah well
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those are episodes 175 and 176 for those of you that are smart enough to have the
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Stitcher app right so here's the thing this guy that they're checking out his name is Alex
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Christopher ying and I say checking out now this could change and this could change as we are sitting here in the
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garage without TVs in front of us right now this guy could actually be charged the way I understand this he's
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technically not been charged with anything but he's by far the most interesting suspect that they have so
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far because this is a guy that has proven he is capable of Acts very similar to the horrible acts that
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happened in Aurora uh back in what was that like 19 84 yeah yeah so listen to this this
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dude Alex Christopher Ying you'll be glad to know he's already in prison he's he's 57 years old he's serving 8 to 40
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years in a Nevada prison now he's eligible for parole in July of 2021 and his sentence will expire in
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April of 2037 so 2037 he's 57 years old now I mean this dude might be be practically
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a lifer right uh he would be about he'd be about 77 at that time now remember this is the case it was January 4th
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1980 well there was a series of attacks four four separate attacks and it sounds
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like they like this guy for at least two of them remember when we covered this we
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had some questions as to if all four were actually connected I I personally believe that they're all four connected
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I have a hard time believing that they wouldn't be right um they're such similar attacks and they happened so
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close together it and it and I think if this is the right guy Captain I think we
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were right I think we nailed this thing meaning in a sense that we said this we solved it well we're we're fully
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responsible no I mean couldn't be further from the truth but but the thing here is we were kind of offering up
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little tidbits of a possible profile of this guy stating that we thought this was somebody that was young somebody
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that was physically strong so he would have been in his early he would have been 24 when these attacks went down
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when and we also had the DNA where they made a profile of his face like they did
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the DNA and and and if you look at what they came up with and and the guy that they caught not that far off no yeah
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yeah that's actually the first time I'm seeing the those side by side and you're
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right that's that's pretty close and with that snapshot DNA I believe I keep calling it that but I don't know that
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that's what they actually call it but anyway they make a computerized composite sketch of of the perpetrator
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using the DNA and they even did an aged enhanced one you know what he would look
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like all these years later and you're right captain that it looks pretty close but here okay look they got a couple
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things wrong if you look at the DNA the no his nose is a little more pointy a little bit nose but look at that mouth
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that mouth that's what it looks like if You' make a sound for what his mouth looks
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like it would be that might be one of the douchiest faces and I'm not just saying that cuz
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he's a killer I mean there's definitely some douchy faces on people well we don't know for certain that he's a
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killer yet look at the that face how douchy is that face and and just when you think
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that it's not that douchy oh wait his his younger face is worse he it's like he has this
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uh I can't explain it you have to see a picture of him but well here's the thing
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so this guy if he is connected to all four of these attacks that we discussed this is four Hammer attacks in the metro
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area over a 12-day span and what I meant by one thing I think we were close on when we were kind of adding tidbits of
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our own thoughts to a possible profile of the perpetrator of these crimes is we said that what this shows us that th
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this many attacks in such a short period of time and attacks that are extremely extremely violent we were saying this
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looks like a guy that's off the rails like that has completely spun out of control and he's just attacking at will
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and I think what kind of where we kind of got this right Captain was like I said this dude is in prison right now
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why because he is he's been convicted of a similar attack and he's also been a suspect in another similar attack and
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these happened just days after the 12-day Span in which he was attacking people in and around Aurora Colorado so
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11 days after the attack on the Bennetts on the Bennett family that was the family of four and three of them
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unfortunately were killed in that that attack someone broke into a home in Kingman Arizona and beat the resident
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that was inside with a rock now Ying has never been convicted of that however he
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was arrested in that case and I don't want to say I don't want to sound like he's innocent at all in this case he's
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probably extremely guilty but what happened is before he could be convicted of that charge well he he he broke out
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he made an escape he escaped when they were transporting him from the jail to the courtroom to face charges on
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breaking into that home in Kingman Arizona he busted out now he was only on the run for about two days but in the
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course of that two days he managed to make his way to Henderson Nevada and there he broke into another home and he
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once inside he beat the couple that was inside with an ax handle now that was that's what he's actually been charged
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with he's been charged with the escape with running and evading police as well as breaking into this home and
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assaulting the two individuals inside which is so eerily similar to all the cases in Aurora Colorado right I think
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one reason why you're not connecting them or maybe why law enforcement didn't is cuz the locations it' be a pretty far
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distance now I've seen several news articles on this and I went to like uh N9 news is is a great station out there
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in Denver and I also went to I think it's called I prefer 10 News the Denver news all of these outlets and I think I
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said this when we covered the case they all do a very good job of presenting these stories and and telling the facts
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and telling what happened um regarding the information coming out this is coming out late last week and we still
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need to be filled in on some of the information it sounds to me like DNA is what is the
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link here and that they've been able to link possibly link this dude's DNA to at
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least two of the four attacks that happened back in 1984 right like we said we had the DNA
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so we could do the profile pick and I'm pretty certain that parabon Nano Labs a company that we've discussed often and
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and actually recently we've talked about them a lot lately I believe they were the ones that did that uh computer
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composite of the possible perpetrator so I kept reading and reading and reading and looking for those magical words
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parabon nanu labs to see if they were the ones that worked this DNA and busted this guy but then the thing I kept
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thinking about though Captain is look not only were we right about saying this dude was off the rails and that this guy
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think about this 11 days after he kills three of a family of four he's at it again in a whole different town breaking
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into another place whole different state state yeah and several people we talked
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to leading up to this case all said the same thing if this guy did all four of these it would shock me if he would stop
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it would be it it would be very incredibly hard to believe that an individual like this would stop right
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and he didn't he just moved to a different territory and who knows how many homes he would have broken into in
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that area well and when he got caught he gets I mean who escapes from prison not
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a lot of people no not a lot of people and the first thing he does while he's on the run is oh I'm going to break into
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another home and do the same thing here you know I'm going to throw this out there mhm you can shoot it down if you
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want but what if this guy's uh you know bipolar or something and and what I mean
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by that is that this guy went on this spree uhhuh but that could be like a manic
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State the guy got in a hyper manic state right and and and in a hyper manic State
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you have almost I'm going to get [ __ ] for this but you will have more like superhuman
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strength you're going to be stronger you're going to your energy is going to be more and what if he just went from
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one to another and to another I don't know the guy's mental state I'm well yeah yeah and and we
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before you start typing out the the long email to me we're not trying to suggest
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that people that are bipolar are violent individuals we're looking at this very specific case right here with this one
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individual and we're just bringing up some questions here what something triggered this to happen that's what I
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believe you're saying captain and you're absolutely right something triggered this to happen because before that 12
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days as far as we know he wasn't busting into people's homes and killing them in
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the middle of the night some [ __ ] happened some [ __ ] went down I mean I don't I don't know what some [ __ ] no but
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that's what I wonder because what if it's just this state that this individual got in and maybe it's you
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know maybe the person's you know psychotic I'm not very I'm not sure I'm just saying that seems like a very this
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Rampage almost seems very manic to me no I agree and that's why I think you're seeing such a so many attacks in such a
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short period of time this is nothing like you know when we covered the the um Colonial Parkway murders right
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there's almost a year in between those attacks right that that seems like thought out and planned that's somebody
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that wants to be a serial killer that's somebody that's like you know what I'm going to find victims I'm going to find
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perfect victims that I I have deemed perfect and I'm going to kill them in this way that way and this way and this
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is how I'm going to get away with it and also those individuals have to if you're going to make a case that
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that these killings going to happen just on the parkway mhm that you also that individual has to be of the sound mind
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of oh okay I pulled up I got a couple there maybe I can attack and then they look at the surroundings they realize
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there's more people around there than they thought they back away from the attack you see what I'm saying like
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that's this guy has no control no you're right what what you're saying is okay the difference between the two is this
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right okay the the serial killer the Colonial Parkway murders that person or persons what they were doing is similar
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to what a hunter would do right you know the the climate needs to be right the weather needs to be right my my stand
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that I put in the tree needs to be in the right location angled this way and I want to be there at this time of
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day and if something crosses my path MH I'm taking it down and it's very methodical it's very thought out it's
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very planned it's almost like a ritual this dude he doesn't have to have so many things right for him to carry out
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the attack it seems to me like uh you know if he did the the attack during the day that one almost seems to me like if
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I spot a woman that I find attractive I'm attacking and raping that's it it seems that loose that loose
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of a plan very disorganized we would call this person label him a disorganized killer in most of the
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senses um question things that I hope are qu answered that we question MH um did he bring the weapon with him or was
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it a weapon that he found in the home or in the garage on his way in remember I I
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really suspect this guy went in through the man door in the garage and he could have picked up a weapon on his way into
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the home most disorganized Killers do not bring a weapon with them on his other attacks he didn't bring a weapon
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is that what it says well no I'm just saying that you said that he hit the one people with a
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rock right right unless he was lugging that rock around for days hey man this this rock look like a good weapon now
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let me put this in my pocket well that's interesting and and I tell you what I I
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finished now that I finished uh the kill jar which is a book that I'm very happy
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that we're going to talk about more this week I started reading the man from the
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train and forgive me I don't have the author's name wait wait wait hold on I don't want to pick on this author but
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the the title of the book is the man from the train yeah okay it's a great title and actually once you how's that
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agree because because that's a very creative title no no no that he he this author claims to have solved quite
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a bit of cases um and he's during the course of the book He's referring to the killer as the man from the train yeah I
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get it I'm just saying there's probably a more creative what should what should he call it I don't know I haven't read
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the book Thomas Smith what I'm saying he might have cracked a bunch of cases but
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he didn't crack the case of a creative title okay that'd be like somebody writing a book about us and saying two
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men from the garage that's all I'm saying I'm sure it's awesome book I get what you're
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saying I think it's a clever title myself two men from no that's a terrible title anyway but the thing that's that's
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interesting about this case uh the the man from the train case is that it's also kind of it's very much like this
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perpetrator like Alex Christopher Ying if in fact he did do all these murders and these attacks it's a guy gets he
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rides the rails he gets off the train and he's looking for just like two two or three specific things and if he can
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check those boxes you're in you're in a bad place because he's going to come into your
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place in the middle of the night and he's going to attack your entire family and he only needed a few things he
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wanted wanted your home to be close to the railroad tracks but also far also away from town you know not in the
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middle of town somewhere right and he's looking for for one thing and one thing that a lot of people had back then these
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these crimes took place in the uh very early 1900s he was looking for a wood pile
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with an ax handle sticking out of the top of it and he would just he would use that axe to go into your home and and
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destroy your family and it's very we've covered so many home invasions lately well those to me personally those are
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the ious cases to me because I mean you you're talking about someone just coming
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into your home where do we usually feel the safest at home and this is somebody coming into your home and taking control
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over you and the occupants inside the home and and killing you or doing whatever they want inside your home to
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me that's the most terrifying of all of these monsters out there when I said before we're probably in the Golden Age
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of catching these monsters but we're also in the Golden Age of waiting cuz I mean even with the uh Golden State
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killer now with the roora hammer Slayer um what was the other one that we covered well Christy Merrick but uh
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right that guy's been convicted right yeah DJ freeze so he's been freeze yeah he's been convicted we're but we're also
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waiting on April Tinsley right we're waiting on so golden age of waiting speaking of golden though the Golden
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State killer that dude is the he's he's dragging this thing out because what he's trying to claim is that he's old
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and frail and he's got health problems and so he's he's trying to delay his court date yeah I mean he is an old
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piece of [ __ ] yeah and April Tinsley I think will get a conviction before even
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convicting the Golden State killer in this sense too I think this one might move along rather fast because if this
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guy did it if Alex Christopher Ying did this he's already in prison I think that's going to move things along faster
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one and two right remember what the prosecutor did that was very clever he actually already has an arrest warrant
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issued by the state of Colorado for this individual but it's the individual who um who owns the DNA let's say right so
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there's not a specific name on this arrest warrant but whoever owns that DNA that's who the the warrant for arrest is
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for so what my thinking is here is we probably know about this Ying guy because somebody leaked it to the media
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that hey we have some leakage well we got a guy that we like and we're in the process of getting a warrant to get his
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DNA to extract his DNA and confirm that it matches the these two cases right I don't know how much of a defense he can
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have if it matches in both of these cases I'm curious dude he can pull the Shaggy defense all day long not that
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it's used very much but I'm curious if there's the death penalty in in Colorado um because if there is somebody
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deserving of that it's certainly the perpetrator of whoever killed the Bennett family yeah but I
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think I wish law enforcement and prose UTS and just the justice system in general if they got hip to the idea that
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yes he's deserving of that but how much and I think a lot of them know this but it's so much harder to convict them
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and then once you do convict them all the appeals that they get where it's like if you just pulled that off the
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table it's a lot easier MH and now I think what they're doing now is saying okay we'll pull that off the table if
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you give us more information right well the thing here is you know what would be
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interesting and I've seen this this happens on occasion it's pretty rare um and I don't know why it is so rare maybe
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maybe you're not allowed to do it I don't know how you know the the court systems vary uh across our great nation
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and so what I'm talking about here is sometimes in some of these cases what they will do is if they suspect you of
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having killed three or four people uh especially when you have a case where there's three people in the same attack
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as we have here with the Bennett family sometimes they'll just charge one they'll just charge you for one of those
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murders that way if somehow you can beat it somehow you can beat the charge we don't face the whole Double Jeopardy
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thing here we can now charge you for the murder of the parents instead because you know we couldn't get the conviction
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for whatever reason on that other charge it gives them a chance to kind of to go
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back regroup reorganize build a better case and get some more evidence to put this monster behind bars well hopefully
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um we get some answers pretty soon well on all these cases yeah no I agree the thing what's weird though is
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you know we had mentioned I had mentioned maybe we would see a break in the Lane Bryant murders mhm because of
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this new technology I'm starting I don't want anybody to you know I don't want to
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be a Debbie Downer I'm starting to wish that I had not made that statement because it doesn't look like that case
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falls into the same category as the cases that they are making moves on and what I mean by that is the the four
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major cases that we've discussed where DNA seems to be the new technology of DNA seems to be the spearheading the the
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investigation and making the break in the case in these cold cases three out of those four cases there was a lot of
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DNA there was a lot of DNA evidence and laye Bryant there's not a ton of DNA evidence left in that case so what I
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think we should anticipate and maybe expect to see moves on here soon would be cases where there were a lot of DNA
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meaning multiple crime scenes multiple victims the one that I think that we could see a a major break soon and I
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really hope so and and when we do uh not that you know all these cases are are are tug at the heartstrings
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equally but that's not true all look there's a lot of cases that they just affect people differently you're going
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to have cases that you read about and for whatever reason it's going to affect you differently I mean it's just like
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with the Johnny Johnny gosh case for whatever reason because he was a paper boy for whatever reason that connect
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with that case more right I don't think that's it I mean again we have respect for all the victims some some of the
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cases just hit closer to home I wasn't really clear I I what I meant when I said all of these cases I meant the four
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that we've had breaks in and and the one that I'm about to mention and and I and
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I said that because you know it's noon so I got seven up in my tumbler and you know p face I I've already had a real
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celebratory drink when I heard that there was going to be an arrest in this case and I did the same thing in the
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other cases and I will do so with this one as well the yogurt shop is the one that I think that we might see a Breakin
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that that is a case that had um you know it's a bigger case one of the most famous if not the most famous case in
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Texas right and there was DNA but the thing that I kept wondering about with the yogurt shop
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murders so for the these cases to to be solved in this manner they have to be submitted and paid for the test paid for
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by local law enforcement and the thing with yogurt shop as much as I think that they would
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love to make that case and put a case together against someone the thing that's tricky about that remember there
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were two guys sent to prison for yogurt shop and eventually released and they've
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not been rewarded any kind of uh compensation for for their time in prison or for their possible wrongful
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convictions because remember what the judge said when they tried to say hey look we were wrongfully convicted the
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state owes us something well Texas law makes it so that look if the captain's convicted of these charges he serves a
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little bit of time and then later he's let out because he puts together a good appeal right and he's out well it's not
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technically a wrongful conviction until you can prove that you're innocent right
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and so these two individuals while they are out of prison they've not technically proven in a court of law
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that they are innocent of those charges of those convictions so what I'm getting
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at here is if they test yogurt shop and if they find a match and then they track
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down the individual or the individuals and they make the arrest that has the domino effect of now we've
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made an arrest and we have people to go to trial and trust me that trial those convictions will lead to death penalties
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so we have those Domino effects but we also have the Domino that we now we have to pay these two guys because we know
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they're innocent because these other people did it yeah but it's money and I think Justice is more important of well
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I think duh duh it's but but that's you and me that's you and me we're we're regular dudes we're smart dudes we are
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not corrupt dudes there are corrupt individuals yeah but the majority of people getting into law enforcement
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corrupt people that's not what I'm saying I'm what I'm saying is there could be a speed bump along the way
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there could be one individual I know I know majority of them are good I know the majority of them are great but could
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be there could be one Bad Seed in there yeah don't push it too far they're good there will be no money uh no no
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yeah but so hopefully we get some answers on that uh I I need to try to find this picture
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for you to see I would expect formal um I would expect real charges against this guy this week if if he is in fact
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their guy it won't take long for the test to come back okay and I would expect real charges this week like I
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said this this could be happening as we are talking about it right now you know this we you'll hear off the Record
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tonight this action may have already happened right and I hope so the sooner the better so you're scrolling through
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our website that's our website right now right no this is our Twitter so this is
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our Twitter and I saw a picture of Bill smolinsky who we recent we covered last week turtleneck sweater with the chain
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with the tural neck sweater missing individual from um oh shoot I I'm already forgetting I'm already drawing
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oh Connecticut Billy SM smolinsky from Connecticut missing his mother sent us a really nice email thanking us for the
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episode so I want to if Jan if you're listening thank you for the email who wait the oh yeah this story this the
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mara Murray dudes which one is Tim and Lance Tim's the taller one right Lance Lance has the the very the the they're
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equally as handsome as one I'm going on the record and saying Lance is more handsome I like I like the The Little
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Beard there oh yeah but crawl space podcast that's the kind of the new thing they're doing on a I believe it's a
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weekly basis but Tim and Lance good friends of ours so Tim Lance and then Maggie from The Missy maram marray doc
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they were actually submitting uh soil samples I believe mhm and when they went to so you can see the
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soil samples here this is on our Twitter page I retweeted it but uh you see they're filling out this paperwork and
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then this lady is going to be uh testing it right uh where she works for the people that test it and when they walked
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in she she happened to be listening to True Crime garage when they dropped off the soil samples W and so they were like
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hey we know those guys so they're in New Hampshire yeah with these soil samples they go in and she's listening to uh the
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captain blaring out the speakers yeah telling her telling her how handsome Tim and Lance are yeah if you haven't
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checked out that show check out crawlspace podcast.com there's an episode of uh me and Colonel talking
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with Tim and [Music] [Applause] L