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a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] this is true crime garage and this is the case of Kanika Jenkins
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[Music] good afternoon I want to thank everybody for coming out uh we're here today too
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because we need to know and find out what happened to Kanika dances you're sitting here looking at her
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Mother Teresa Martin who on August 16th underwent a double mastectomy and a couple of weeks later
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she traveled to the Crown Plaza Hotel in search of her daughter explicitly telling them and asking them to help her
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find her daughter asking them to show the videotapes because she knew her daughter was on the premises
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up to today's date we still have not received the entirety of the video showing what happened to Kanika Jenkins
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we've asked you to come here today because there have been a lot of things said out there in the media about what
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happened and including that there is some videotapers showing and displaying her walk into a freezer
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um we've been given some Snippets of video I'd say less than 30 to 40 minutes of video out of 36 hours and none of
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that video shows Kanika Jenkins walking into a freezer so still today we have the question and we're committed to
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finding out what happened to Kanika Jenkins the Snippets show a young lady who's
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disoriented a young lady who clearly is in need of some attention she's trying to find her way
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no one from Crowne Plaza Hotel responds to her no one from Crown Plaza Hotel um is seeking to provide assistance to
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her and for over a day approximately a day and a half apparently she was somehow down in this
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freezer and they have no way of explaining or they have into this date at least explained how someone got
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into an area that clearly or apparently was not being utilized and a freezer that apparently was on and
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not being not being used in function functioning so Miss Martin has asked us to conduct an
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independent investigation we've committed to her that we will not stop until we get all of the video we will
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not stop till we get all of the recordings we will not stop to get all of the statements because we want to
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give her an explanation and she's entitled to an explanation as to what happened to her daughter on that evening
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I can tell you that my line of work I've come across some very strong individuals
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but after hearing some of the 911 tapes after having sat down and met kanika's mom
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I've never met anybody strong what she could do for her daughter was unlimited you're going to hear I'm
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sure they're going to end up releasing the 911 tapes you're going to actually see hopefully they'll release it today
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hopefully we can get today the video we've been asking for for the last 48 hours
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but you are going to hear when those tapes are released Martin called up and asked time and time
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again please check the videotapes at the hotel my daughter is missing she went after having an infection in her chest
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after having a double mastectomy went over five o'clock in the morning begging the hotel to please just check the
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videotapes in a vacuum that might sound innocuous but what we have at least been told
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through you the media there are 47 cameras and 36 hours of tape that they never looked for they never checked they
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never searched they never did anything while a young 19 year old disoriented girl was sitting in their freezer
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now there has to be an answer to how that happened better yet there has to be an answer to
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why that happened why is Teresa sitting here having now to go over to the corners to pick up her
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child when on their videotape in their hotel in their freezer all they had to do
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was watch it I have guaranteed this Mom guaranteeder we will get to the bottom of it we will
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only go to where the facts lead us that's right but once we are there we will have
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answers that I promise and that I promise you there are a lot of people wondering what
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happened to this young lady it's a community concern she's a 19 year old girl who is apparently found in a
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freezer um after after a day and a half of being asked for and she's been asked they've
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asked for videos for a day and a half the mom went to the front desk asking will you please look at the videos from
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the very beginning and got nothing but resistance from the Crowne Plaza Hotel I did not receive contact ever all of
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you have been able to reach reach me and call me and we have not received it our Rogers and smithies bring the tape
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down that's right that's hard that that's what you call spin I don't want to sound like the the national that's
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what you call spin what what's happened here is they're mad because the protesters are out front they're going
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to tell you anything they want what we want to know is if they if they offered it they can't send a messenger they
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can't send somebody over here with the tape right now and then they can prove us wrong so that's my point what we want
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to know is where is it we want to see it I'm not going to worry about the last 48
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hours I'm gonna worry about the next 40 years I want to know winless a mother here a grieving mother is going to see
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the tape in the next 48 hours when you can answer that and when they can answer that then I care I don't care what
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happened 48 hours ago give us the tape now give us the tape now yes I thank everybody for your help the
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love and support but I also want to know what happened I want to see oh I want to see her
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literally actually walking into this freezer and closing us up within this freezer
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and freezing to death race is not importance to me right now until I know what happened it is it
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something that could come up I I expected maybe it could I don't know as of right now that's not my concern I'm
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not looking for a I'm not but I'm not trying to do it on so I'm not trying to have an answer and then get the facts to
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support my answer I want to have my facts that will lead me to the answer because that's what is due to her if
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this was it was about an agenda I could come in here and give you whatever spin I want Larry and I are going to do that
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he wanted we truly and honestly want to know what happened so that we can have this poor woman know what happened to
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her daughter at the end of the day that's all this is we have a child who is dead and a mother who doesn't know
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why and that's the only thing Larry and I are trying to get to everything else can go to the Wayside because I know
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what it's like to be a father and I know what it's like to have a sick child I can't imagine what it's like to have one
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that is then you don't know why and that's all we're trying to do one of the first things she I said to
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her when she called was I'm glad you called because you needed help she's on TV asking the same questions
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and then I find out she's going to the front desk and not getting any assistance and I told her I'm glad you
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called I want to help you [Music] I saw or he didn't I I have no idea and it's quite frankly to our investigation
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it's irrelevant I understand that this is a media case I understand that but that really doesn't affect us um we're
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not moved by any protests we're not moved by any any protesters or activists we are only moved by trying to find out
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what happened to Tamika other than that I don't make any respect I don't care because that doesn't get me to where we
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need to be which is why is Kamika dead that's where we need to be foreign [Music]
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the mysterious death investigation of young 19 year old Kanika Jenkins it has led us to this Captain we've
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we've seen the video we've talked about what we saw in the video but we would be
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remiss if we didn't talk about what others are saying is hiding in the frames of that video yeah
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um and to give this kind of a good overview is that there are a few spots throughout
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these little video Snippets that we've seen you know some of these are might be shadows that some people say that they
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see a man waiting to jump out at Kanika some say that they see two guys or maybe
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even a guy and a girl following her at different times during these Snippets that we've seen there's one portion in
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particular where people say that they can see a hand reaching out from a side hallway this is where she kind of turns
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back to the camera stumbles a bit and there's a hallway to her right it would be to our left as we view her where it
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looks like almost like someone just very quickly sticks out their hand and tries
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to grab her her jacket or her leg this very well could be I've looked at this portion of the video over and over
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again and I in full honesty here there have been a couple times where I thought I saw a hand the majority of the time I
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think I'm just seeing a shadow or some kind of reflection um that that may give an appearance of
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something coming out from that hallway well I think it depends on how much you've been drinking well the the other
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thing too is you know I don't know that everybody's this way but I am if I sit there and I watch something too many
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times in a row I might start seeing something that that isn't there you know what I mean uh but but my overall
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opinion of that is that that is some kind of shadow that she is casting on the corner of that wall as she's moving
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closer to it well and all these clips are pixelated so I mean sometimes that makes it a little bit harder to
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distinguish what you're seeing now there's one spot in particular that's been of great interest and this would be
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at the end of the video and I say the end of the video because these are all kind of Snippets that are thrown
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together to create this full-length quote unquote full-length video that we've seen and we know we're not seeing
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all the footage but there's a portion where she walks back to what I believe is some type of
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freezer or back portion to that kitchen where they say that you can see a guy or
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an arm trying to grab her or pull her in that direction now a lot of people including myself believe that that's
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where that freezer is located I hate to kind of flip this thing on its side and tell you that we're wrong
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myself included but I have heard of a recent interview with one of the gentlemen you heard the two gentlemen
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there that are representing Kanika Jenkins family and the two lawyers yes so there is a recent uh thing that came
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out interview with him where he's stating that after they had walked the hotel and after they were able to
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compare what they saw on those video Snippets to what they saw in real life walking the hotel looking at the walls
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and the floors and the doors and everything he's saying that that kitchen that we see her in at the end of the
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video it it's not the freezer it's not the same kitchen that she was eventually found in right and like we said before
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that there's these kind of like remote kitchens that they set up for different events or if they rent out a ballroom or
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something like that for a wedding or a reunion or something so it's possible that she was in multiple remote type
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kitchens and that doesn't mean that there's not a person there kind of grabbing her pulling her leading her in
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some type of direction that doesn't mean that yeah it just means that you know when you think that okay we're seeing
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the last seconds before she's going into the freezer that's probably not the case
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it's it's probably more what this gentleman says that that's not the kitchen that she was eventually founded
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I did get on the hotel's website I you know Captain you know that I'm not the best guy for these type of tasks for
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internet I couldn't locate like a like a layout or a floor plan of the hotel but you
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know if he if you go to the library with them he'll take you to that card catalog
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show you how it's done You're darn skippy uh but the thing here is Captain I did notice when I was on that
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particular uh website of that particular Hotel they had multiple um they had multiple there's a restaurant
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there's like kind of a quick grab-and-go kind of thing um so it wouldn't surprise me if we're
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dealing with multiple kitchens and then on top of that this is considered like a
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conference center type Hotel so it's a larger one where they're going to host events
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um like you had mentioned uh weddings and stuff and stuff of that nature so who knows how many kitchens are in that
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hotel now but to be honest with you there is one spot there's only one spot for me that I have a big problem with
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there's a tiny little spot on the tape that ice that I feel I see something that if these videos are not altered in
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any way well then this shouldn't be there there is just a split second when she is this is I guess when she first
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walks into the kitchen where I see kanika's head down and you can clearly see her hair hanging in front of her
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um but you see a face and it's it's not kanika's face it appears to be like a a young black man's face wearing a hoodie
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or a dark hoodie um I can't say with 100 certainty that that's what I'm seeing it could be some
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kind of Illusion it could be any number of things Reflections Shadows or anything like that but I believe that
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I'm seeing her with her head down and something or someone that might be just to the side of her you know walking
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walking with her she's on her feet but if this is true what I'm seeing it almost appears like this person would be
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guiding her yeah it's definitely 100 not true what you're seeing because look if
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you freeze the frame it does look like somebody's behind her holding her up maybe there's arm around her waist and
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there's a hoodie and you see a face right if you freeze the frame but the couple steps it takes her for her to get
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into the kitchen you don't see anybody no I get that and you don't see anybody afterwards right
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so did this this anomaly just I mean you don't know what what what persons are saying is it this is what you said well
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hang on a second you're putting words in my mouth said we could rewind the tape no I know
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what I said but I want I want to be very clear about this what people are saying
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that you are seeing there is that they have photoshopped somebody out of the video and this was a portion where he is
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visible and they did not catch it before they photoshopped this out okay okay so
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you're saying they okay and this is what the conspiracy guys and girls are saying
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all right that there's there's been somebody photoshopped out of portions of this video right more so than the than
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the one that I say I see something you know they're talking about her being followed in the hallways and and there
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were Shadows that were forgotten to be removed that they just removed the person
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um all I'm saying here is I said I can't say with 100 certainty that I'm seeing a
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person there what I what I'm saying is for a second there for that Split Second I see something that I cannot explain I
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cannot say if it's Kanika by herself I cannot say if these conspiracy people are
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wrong yeah you know I I'm just when I there's one very tiny little spot where I see something that I can't say with
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100 certainty what I'm looking at like I said we just watched it so that at that
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one spot it's like well that's weird I can't explain that but again you have very bad cameras you got a lot of
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pixelation so it's very hard to tell you know it would take a lot of work to photoshop
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somebody out I think one of the reasons why when you hear this conspiracy theory it
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makes some sense is because the way in which she is moving is so unnatural at some point right leaning back so far
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where it's like it's almost like she has you know she has to be being Guided by something
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and and I think that's when you watch it and then you if somebody's if somebody said to you hey
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watch this clip and by the way somebody is walking beside her but they photoshopped her out you go well that
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makes some logical sense but you know how much work it would take for them to photoshop
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somebody out no I understand it it would be very difficult and that's why I think
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that if somebody did do that there's a chance they made a mistake somewhere along the along the lines there uh yeah
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but hear me out too you got to follow the money if there is this suspect that is guiding
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her from the party we should assume it's from the party and led her in to the freezer
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then this is murder you charge that person with murder is the hotel at fault are they liable
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for anything I'd argue no I think you're on to something here because I think I don't know the
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legality of the whole thing as far as lawsuits go but I would have to believe that yes if you have video of somebody
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leading her to the freezer you're a lot less liable than if she's walking by herself yeah I believe that I think
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you're on to something there um you're right so who has control of the tapes so you're going to say that
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this hotel um it's so um they're they're either trying to cover their ass so much or they're so
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racist that they photoshopped out and then you know the suspect well I'm not saying
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that they did that I'm not saying you I'm saying but what I am saying is they kind of set themselves up for that
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didn't they when you don't when you hold on to the tapes when you make a delay in
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releasing them when you won't let the mother see them when you delay getting them to the police well then people call
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and question what they're seeing and why why did it take so long for it to get to
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the rest of us I don't question them on how long it took for them to get the tapes to the mother
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or to their attorneys or to law enforcement I don't question that because we got a lot of footage that
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they had to sift through and maybe again maybe they had to call it person there are people you know I I play in chain
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bars and if there was a problem with the sound system they didn't have anybody in
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town that could fix it there's plenty of sound companies that could fix it in town but because they're a big chain
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they have one guy and he lives in Florida so we have to fly him right so there could have been some I.T guy that
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had you know fly out or drive a couple hours sift through all the information cut the clips like we were saying before
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the five seconds here and there that make no sense you don't need those edit them down give them to the people I
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don't have an issue with that the big issue I have with the hotel and what frustrates me
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to no end is you have a mother that comes down that is you know seems like a very nice person seems like
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a very intelligent person she she doesn't you know she's not screaming you know especially like on the 9-1-1 call
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she's very calm cool collect she comes down hours after her daughters found missing or not found missing but
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reported missing and she's asking for the tapes then you should be reviewing those tapes they
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should have reviewed those tapes and look they don't have to have the mom see those tapes
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but if they would have reviewed those tapes they would have been able to find her
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daughter and possibly should still be alive today and that's what that's my biggest
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problem with the hotel I agree I agree I don't think that they did everything immediately that they could have and
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should have and therefore who knows just go ahead and say it because this is true crime garage they
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didn't do the due diligence right right and who knows what the outcome would have been if this process was sped up
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quite a bit well and this is not the only footage that we need to discuss no because there there is footage of the
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actual party itself inside the hotel room uh and it looks like you said about 30 people in there
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um probably ages 18 to 25 I would guess that's what was reported is roughly about 30 people yeah I didn't count
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heads when when I was viewing the video but I'd say roughly 30 people some of them are hard to watch because the you
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know they're not professional camera people at time yeah this is filmed on somebody's phone and at times the party
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seems during this video anyway seems very loud uh I believe people are smoking in that hotel room
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um there so there's only really two things that I want to point out one's kind of small and one is very big in my
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opinion the first one being is there is a a man there a young man who's in the in the middle of the party and at some
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point I clearly hear him say to another person that oh was that the manager or all the manager just left
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it what I gather from that is that at some point the manager probably got called to this room or to that floor
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because the party was so loud probably knocked on the door spoke to somebody for a brief second or two and then left
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I was a little surprised by just the five minutes that I saw on the video that the party wasn't broken up yeah
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there immediately um it seemed to me like they were they were doing things on this video that
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shouldn't have been allowed in that in within the walls of that hotel yeah it makes you wonder though did they know
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this manager I mean you can't smoke in a hotel anymore no and I can't believe I from what I saw I would be shocked if
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when he opened up the door he or she the manager opened up the door that they didn't see obvious signs immediately of
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of that rule being broken yeah some people just don't want to do their jobs though so it's I I guess that's the
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first thing that I that I spotted now the I think the big thing that I spotted is that a lot of these women do not look
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21. and it's clear that people are drinking right so you know whether it's the smoking or the drinking it's like
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hey well again like I said I believe it would been very easy to spot that there are several rules or laws being broken
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within the that hotel room that would have been caused to break up that party or notify the authorities well I need to
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break up this party real quick we'll be right back after this quick beer break thank you
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foreign [Music] [Music] cheers mates we are back okay we're talking about video footage from the
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actual party itself that was filmed on somebody's cell phone yeah so we're guessing like uh Facebook live or maybe
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Snapchat and to give a kind of a quick rundown of what the video is is it appears that somebody is one showing
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themselves at this party but also they kind of kind of go past each person almost in in one side of the party and
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as they do that you can see behind some people that appear to be sitting down you can see Kanika Behind these people
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if it's not Kanika it's somebody that has the exact same hairdo and exact same outfit on okay you're exactly right so
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then where near the end of this video is the thing that I think is a big deal it shows I believe three girls in the
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restroom the doors open and they all appear to be looking in the mirror and maybe fixing their hair or fixing their
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makeup uh there are other I'm guessing there might be drinks that are being made at this countertop as well
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and the reason why I say that is that one of the girls when she's done doing whatever she's doing it's hard to see
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her like I said there's multiple people in a small room and you're seeing it from an angle but you can clearly see
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her leave the restroom with the drink and she says something to the fact of this drink is for her or I'm going to
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give this drink to that girl now when the when the film when the video shuts off
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she's seen walking in the direction of Kanika um and that leads me to wonder the big
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question that we've had from the get-go on this was she drugged did somebody feed her something that put her in this
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state that messed her up this bad and this is it's not 100 Proof you know it's not an
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open and shut case here but it seems very strange to me that I see this girl saying those exact words oh this this is
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for her this drink is for her or I'm gonna give this Drink To That Girl almost like she's telling her friends
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yeah don't take this one yeah I doctored this one up this ain't for you guys this
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is for her and I'm walking in her Direction it's a special drink there's not a lot of girls
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in that same direction that she's walking there are other girls it could have been somebody else that she was
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talking about but there's not a lot of other girls in that direction that she was walking well it's super fascinating
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because I mean clearly we'd I had to stop because I didn't see what you saw originally and you can clearly see like
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it's almost like girls are scheming in the bathroom uh and then you clearly hear her say
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when she walks out of the bathroom I'm going to give this to that girl over there or something like that
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um but once she walks past it's like there wasn't enough time to hand her the drink so she either set the
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drink down on like a table and was like hey there's your drink or it was for somebody further in the
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room but uh but the video cuts off right about that time too well yeah yeah yeah just just shortly
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after she just passed Kanika I guess the thing that I find most strange about this is in the clips that we just
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watched these I don't know if they're Facebook live videos or SnapChat videos whatever
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the thing that's Most Fascinating to me is every time that you see Kanika that I
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don't see a drink in her hand right so that that is uh how'd she gets so drunk so fast you're right
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right and if somebody didn't drug her I believe she was I mean I mean I said in the last episode so I can't hold it back
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I mean I think that's just extra proof now these clips are very small they're minutes long and but you know you see
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her at the beginning of the video no drink couple minutes go by you see her again no drink
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so somebody that you know somebody walking around like a zombie you know it doesn't get that way
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you know unless you got a drink in your hand and that girl leaving the bathroom clearly says I'm gonna give this drink
00:32:36
to that girl over there clearly says that and you cannot see what's going on at the on that
00:32:41
countertop in the bathroom who knows who knows yeah but yeah what did she give her that drink I don't know but what it
00:32:49
is evidence of is that there are people making drinks for other people yep and so the possibility of her getting a
00:32:57
drink that had something in it like roofied or whatever I think that was planned though
00:33:02
and this is like I said this is not just like a death investigation this is this
00:33:07
will be a murder investigation well we got a lot more to get to Captain because there's also a video of Irene Roberts
00:33:13
now remember I said she's the one that I believe was having her birthday party at
00:33:18
the hotel um and there's a video of her where she is this must be Facebook live um and she is wearing a pair of uh
00:33:28
reflective sunglasses and there's a lot of people speculating as to what they can see in the reflection of or of her
00:33:35
sunglasses um there are some people hold on a second and I just want to say uh to all the True Crime
00:33:44
army people out there that have spent six hours sometimes eight hours watching a video like this trying to see
00:33:55
something in glasses I feel for you I told you I got lost for three days I went down into my basement and then I
00:34:05
emerged 75 hours later after watching all kinds of videos looking in people's glasses looking in the reflections of
00:34:13
mirrors and windows and listening to things with headphones on and then with them off and then slowing them down and
00:34:19
speeding them up trying to figure out what I'm hearing yeah okay so what what's in these classes okay what do
00:34:25
people think all right so there are a few there's actually a lot of things that people think and think that they're
00:34:30
hearing and seeing I'm going to only go through the things that um somewhat makes sense well it somewhat
00:34:37
makes sense in the this is in the same sense that I cannot disagree with these people
00:34:42
um I can't say 100 what I'm hearing or what the intentions of those words are but I can't disagree with the people
00:34:49
that have pointed these things out the first thing that that should be discussed is that at some point
00:34:55
it's believed that you can see Kanika in the reflection of these glasses and that
00:35:01
she appears to be passed out on the bed and this would be away from this Irene Roberts person
00:35:09
um I cannot say that that's not Kanika there I I can't say 100 that it is the genes is what I see in her reflection
00:35:18
because she has like ripped jeans yes the jeans that I see to me if I had to do a gene lineup uh I would pick those
00:35:26
as as kanika's jeans so I cannot disagree with that there's another portion on there and this is somewhere
00:35:33
between the 220 to 255 Mark into this video where the the girl sitting next to Irene she leans in and says something to
00:35:43
the girl now a lot of people believe that she is saying they're they're in there raping that girl
00:35:51
um which I can't tell exactly what she's saying um Irene responds to this as I told you
00:35:58
it's clear to me that Irene says I told you but I cannot say 100 that that's what that girl says to her now the
00:36:06
[ __ ] this is a lot of these things are going to be answered with autopsy and a lot of
00:36:11
things will be answered with the toxicology report as well and so I mean there's been no reports that there was
00:36:18
any sexual assault or anything so no no this sooner than later now one thing I do want to point out that I spent a lot
00:36:25
of time on and I want to save you all the time out there is that if you start looking into this Irene Roberts is
00:36:33
videotaping herself on a cell phone several times during this video she picks up a cell phone and answers a call
00:36:39
okay and you can hear her say we're in room 926 telling somebody to park in the parking lot she answers this phone more
00:36:48
than once I've done some research and I've been able to figure out that the phone that she's talking on is actually
00:36:54
her phone the phone that she's recording this Facebook live video on is a girl named Monifah Monifah Shelton it's her
00:37:03
phone well her parents don't like her too much and it's a Neymar Mo FIFA no what's her name Monifah now after
00:37:10
finding after finding evidence and reports that that was the situation with the phones I believe this to be true
00:37:17
because at some point she does hand off the phone she's recording the video on to Monifah who then takes it into
00:37:23
another room there is one part on this on this video where people say that they can hear
00:37:33
Kanika saying help me okay um and then people speculate that well they must be attacking her on this bed
00:37:42
where you potentially see her passed out or laying backwards on if those are in fact her genes
00:37:49
um I I actually disagree with this I do hear something that sounds somewhat like
00:37:55
help me but there is music that's being turned on and turned off they're in the video they're trying to listen to some
00:38:01
kind of some kind of rap song and this song they're trying to play it through I believe through YouTube and because
00:38:10
you hear you hear Irene complain about the internet connection or about the phones are not working right and I
00:38:18
believe they're trying to play this through YouTube and it's cutting off because they're losing the connection
00:38:23
and you hear the vocals kind of go in and out the Music Stops they go in and out again I personally what I think I'm
00:38:30
hearing is not a girl saying help me I believe that I'm hearing some skewed version of those lyrics uh because the
00:38:38
the like I said the music is turning on and then turning off again my problem with that theory is one will know once
00:38:44
we get the autopsy back but I the problem with that theory is um Kanika in the videos of her walking
00:38:52
around that hotel room this is somebody that is completely out of their mind and so if they drugged her and then they
00:39:03
raped her that for her to then have her outfit back on yeah I mean and you know because
00:39:13
even though she's walking like she's in a whole nut on a whole nother Planet I mean her outfit's still
00:39:21
intact right her shoes are on they're tied so you know the idea or the to suspect that
00:39:31
they drugged her and raped her and then redressed her or she was able to dress herself I don't even think she would be
00:39:38
able to dress herself and then then they just push her out in the hallway and she
00:39:42
goes wandering around well the the problem with that is as far as these videos go and what we think we might be
00:39:50
seeing or hearing in these videos the problem is um you know I guess we're assuming that
00:39:56
this video was taken before she's seen out wandering the Halls um she was missing for for so many hours
00:40:05
before her body was found um and I know that they they reported her missing at like four I'm just
00:40:11
calling into question what time are these videos from if that makes any sense at this point I've gotten in this
00:40:17
case I'm questioning everything Captain yeah well see and what we talked about earlier is kind of like the fight or
00:40:25
flight mentality and could you imagine let's say they that somebody did drug her
00:40:31
and maybe she's laying on a bed because she's not feeling so good and maybe maybe there is talk uh you know somebody
00:40:41
says oh they're gonna rape her or something like that because that's what a lot of the speculation is is that they
00:40:47
invited her to this party and yeah she was friends with these people but it was at this point of the relationship where
00:40:54
it was like you know what we're not friends with her anymore and we're going to be you know we're
00:40:59
going to take this way too far and we're going to get her all drugged up and and
00:41:04
they're going to rape her and this is going to be payback for something you know what I'm saying well yeah yeah
00:41:11
that's the SP that's what people are speculating and so my thought is the the way she you know I mean she is
00:41:19
in another world when she's walking through these Halls and it's almost like she has some destination in her head and
00:41:28
there's so many times that she leans back so far that you can't believe that's why people
00:41:34
think somebody is photoshopped out because you can't even believe that she stayed standing but I think she was
00:41:41
running from something and whatever she's running from is probably what drugged her or what she's
00:41:47
trying to flee and I don't think somebody's chasing her I'm just saying that whatever happened in that room it
00:41:54
got to a point where she's like I gotta get out of here and when she took off nobody was trying to chase her
00:42:00
but all that is the cause of her death and that's what's going to end up being a murder case
00:42:07
well do you want to hear some information that has been on social media and this is
00:42:13
you know I I like when something like this happens I'm not a big social media person but I've seen people in the past
00:42:20
commit crimes they brag about it or they can't stay off of social media and we all know how rope works if you give
00:42:27
certain people enough rope they hang themselves and I want to take some time here and present some things that have
00:42:34
been on social media regarding some bickering going back and forth from people that were at the hotel that night
00:42:41
and I'll go through the information I'm going to have to try to clean it up a little bit as I go through it there's
00:42:48
one word in particular that I will just replace it with uh Fig Newton now I'll just replace it with
00:42:54
really nice guy okay so this is the first post that we have and this States this is from one of the young girls that
00:43:04
was at the party all we wanted to do was enjoy ourselves for Renee's birthday we
00:43:11
did that but who would have known our Smiles would have gone quickly changed into frowns Kanika Martin you hurted us
00:43:18
with this one we all was just turning up together after you knew you was too lit
00:43:24
you wanted to lay down and MFS made sure of that why nifa I'm guessing she's referring to
00:43:32
Monifa there why nifa couldn't just leave you instead of picking you up so that y'all could leave you was in our
00:43:41
eyesight till they took you out the room nobody knows WTF what happened outside that room
00:43:50
now in there's something that sounds like it's almost a response to that this this is from Monifah how do you
00:43:59
respond to that well this is this is from Monifa I'll read it and you can take your draw your own conclusions here
00:44:05
says when I saw Kanika wasn't behind me we got the look in everybody in that hotel room was laughing didn't nobody
00:44:15
bother to get TF up and help us I look for her to the top floor to the bottom I was knocking on
00:44:24
mf's door rooms I look where the car was at and everything for you all to sit on
00:44:31
here and keep saying [ __ ] we know effed up we was drunk WTF you all staying saying it's our fault like
00:44:42
that [ __ ] is so effing lame man then you all want to switch the story around I'm waiting to talk to the police
00:44:50
if a MF knew some I would okay sorry I would have said some I told her mom who all was there you you the boys was
00:45:03
and everything mm-hmm wow I mean I don't like her name um but I think there's more important
00:45:11
things to talk about than her name here no but well my point is is I made fun of
00:45:17
her name I probably shouldn't have because what she's actually saying is you know there sounds like there's some
00:45:23
truth to that we have this drunk individual and for some reason they left the room
00:45:29
they leave the room and she turns back around and she's not with her anymore so and then she goes and looks for her
00:45:36
and possibly is one of the people that ends up calling her parents um or calling our mother
00:45:42
and then what she is is doing and saying guess what you idiots uh yeah you guys were all
00:45:49
drunk but this girl went missing and nobody helped me out and nobody went looking for her right that's what she's
00:45:55
saying and then she's saying uh basically you guys are a bunch of idiots and I went looking and he just sat there
00:46:01
and did nothing and by the way I told all the cops about you so I mean that's what it sounds like
00:46:07
she's saying and if that if that is the true statement that I commend her because you know if your friend goes
00:46:13
missing or even acquaintance goes missing from a party be a freaking human and and try to find her well there's
00:46:20
more captain and uh there's these are all from I believe them to be from Monifah okay
00:46:27
um and I'm remember I'm going to replace a certain word with uh really nice guy or really nice guys so we have me and
00:46:34
Kanika left out the room because them really nice guys was acting weird ain't saying no names when we left they was
00:46:42
following us so I told her to let's just go back in the room because they not going to leave us alone by then we were
00:46:50
on a different floor she goes on to say we was already drunk bro we didn't know what was really
00:46:56
happening they already was feeling all up on Kanika a lot before Irene even went live now what I think she's
00:47:05
referring to there is remember I said Irene Roberts did a live video um she's saying that before this point
00:47:13
that these dudes were already feeling up on Kanika uh effing really nice guy in red was
00:47:22
talking to his friend saying that he bet 200 that he gonna F Kanika by the end of
00:47:28
the night and by this time she was really drunk yes they kept giving her drinks and S
00:47:35
and I stood there on my behalf and watched her drunk okay so they were giving her drinks and [ __ ] is what
00:47:43
they're saying yeah okay um well I didn't know if it was just s and then I'm then I'm wondering you know is
00:47:51
Essa type of drug no no sorry I'm sorry I'm trying to read these and clean them up a little bit at the same time you
00:47:57
should have just had me read them because I I'll say it me and Kanika split up outside of the hotel room yes
00:48:03
we both left out she agreed to go to the third floor and I agreed to stay on that
00:48:09
floor but to be low-key and I should have just went with her it seems like they need uh like autocorrect on some of
00:48:19
this stuff well sometimes they're shortening the the words you know just to be faster typers and other times it's
00:48:24
just bad words um but there's there's a story that's forming here in this and I think it's
00:48:31
it's starting to get easier to follow along so this continues maybe maybe listen
00:48:38
listen it was a minute before I decided to go back to the room and when I did the really nice guys wasn't there I was
00:48:46
asking where they go and where is my best friend they said they had left and said they was leaving but they was
00:48:54
Russian and [ __ ] okay so impossible suspects right uh she goes on to say we was drunk and on some play [ __ ] dog we
00:49:04
should wait she was drunk and on some play [ __ ] dog we was drunk and on some play [ __ ] dog okay so that that is some
00:49:12
kind of drug reference I I'm guessing we shouldn't have actually split up and went on different floors dog when I went
00:49:20
down to the floor she wasn't there of course neither was the guys they were nowhere in sight bro I started to panic
00:49:28
bro OMG okay so she's panicking because she doesn't know where these guys are or
00:49:34
friend well or both yeah yeah now there's I'm going to kind of sum up this next portion because she takes a lot of
00:49:41
words to please do explain to us that she says uh already put her phone and keys in my purse in the room what she's
00:49:50
saying is that that's remember they had kanika's phone and keys she's saying that that took place well before Kanika
00:49:59
got lit and remember I pointed out that she that she didn't bring a purse into the party with her that we could see
00:50:05
right I'm guessing that they went up to the party and she's like can you hold my
00:50:09
phone and my keys for me because we're going to be dancing and and drinking and hanging out with all these with with
00:50:14
everybody um this one's really interesting to say the least uh she says I feel effing stupid bro I
00:50:24
just want to kill myself bro because before we started drinking I told everyone that I dare one of us to go in
00:50:32
the freezer and stay in there and put it on live before we leave that's how everybody knew where the freezer was
00:50:41
what well I'm trying to nail this down Captain but I I've not been able to do so to say 100 percent
00:50:48
um but one of the girls that was at the party worked at the hotel she had either was currently working at
00:50:55
the hotel or had previously worked well like I said they probably knew the manager somehow I've seen reports that
00:51:01
state that Irene Roberts worked at the hotel and I've seen reports that say Monifah Shelton worked at the hotel
00:51:08
um from what I can gather it's it's one or the other it's not both um but I'm I'm unable to nail down which
00:51:16
of the two girls was working at the hotel I don't think that matters too much well but the thing here is
00:51:23
it might mean some truth to what she's saying that that's why everybody knew where the freezer was at was that this
00:51:33
this is reported as a portion of the hotel that wasn't being used for any reason at all
00:51:39
um it has actually been reported on several occasions as a vacant a vacant part of the hotel
00:51:45
um so yes I I somebody that worked there would obviously know where this freezer
00:51:50
was located right but she's saying that she dared somebody to go into the freezer and do a Facebook live
00:51:58
I I don't get this either I mean you're at a party you don't need to be you want to broadcast that to
00:52:06
everybody for what what's the point um I don't know but I don't know what what the point is of a lot of these
00:52:13
um these sessions of going back and forth where people are talking to each other and accusing one another of
00:52:18
different stuff what they knew who's to blame as far as who was at the party um and then putting it on where a lot of
00:52:26
people can see right and and again they're still not telling you everybody that's at the party you know there's
00:52:33
still people that were at the party that they don't have names for and yeah that's which I still find
00:52:40
ridiculous so so the question here is so she she was daring people to go and do Facebook live
00:52:48
in the freezer and that's how people knew where the freezer was did they like walk past this
00:52:55
and then she was like seeing there I don't know all I can go off of is that short paragraph you know the other thing
00:53:00
too is this could just be complete PS you know and I'm just going to put out this BS
00:53:09
you know that and I think I think that's what it is I think a lot of these back and forth social media comments are just
00:53:17
BS and they're trying to in a clever way cover their asses hmm well then here's another separate
00:53:25
interaction between two people and this is from somebody going by the name of shooter um and I believe one of the men
00:53:32
at the party that night McGavin was nicknamed shooter um and apparently this interaction is
00:53:40
between him and Irene Roberts and this has caused a lot of a lot of questions as well
00:53:47
um and and I'll kind of read through this it's very short okay but shooter says what what you go popping for
00:53:54
tonight you and your friends and Irene responds back going to this hotel I got for my birthday let me and my partners
00:54:01
slide through trying to make two hundred dollars she responds hell yeah he says your
00:54:08
friend diss me and I'm trying to get that she says okay don't make it obvious I need the 200 bucks or I need the 200
00:54:16
when you walk in he says okay same with you all or it's gonna be sorry okay same with y'all are are it's
00:54:27
gonna be a problem I'm rape her she responds I ain't been liking that [ __ ] for a long time and I could use
00:54:36
that 200. all right so what does all this crap mean well well we're still sifting through crap here Captain we got
00:54:43
more because there there's another there's another one this is from a person going by the handle of young raos
00:54:49
I've never felt so dumb and so smart at the same time well he says young Rao says we didn't mean to kill her she had
00:54:58
a heart attack while we was raping her I'll let you all know why we put her in the freezer later
00:55:04
okay so what can we what can we draw from any of this now yeah but there's there's not much
00:55:11
evidence if any evidence that somebody actually put her in the freezer so that we know of that we know of right
00:55:19
right because there is footage that hasn't been released right um but again then why would the cops say
00:55:26
that this is a death investigation and not a murder investigation if they have video footage of people putting her into
00:55:33
a freezer well and I'm with you Captain I don't think that they have that I don't think that they have any obvious
00:55:39
proof or evidence that that happened I think that we have this weird convoluted situation that got out of hand and
00:55:47
somebody ended up dead but I believe there's a lot of people to blame for this I think that there's a
00:55:53
lot of people that know what happened know who was probably involved they've not come forward with those stories
00:55:59
they've told some of them on social media if those if those posts and everything that I just read to you are
00:56:05
people being honest and telling portions of the story it it slaps together a pretty quick and
00:56:12
easy story for me to figure out she went up to the room with with people that she
00:56:16
thought were her friends she partied with these people there were this group of guys there that was probably up to no
00:56:23
good that we're looking to get with a girl started making trouble in the neighborhood probably get with her
00:56:29
if if this one guy was targeting her as you know we have some interaction between him and Irene
00:56:36
at some point she gets drugged maybe somebody set her up one of those other girls or one of the guys sets this
00:56:42
up right but that text message to me sounds like a plan you know that's what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah they set this
00:56:49
up and then when she's passing out when kanika's passing out on the bed or trying to go somewhere to black out so
00:56:58
she can sleep this thing off and feel better in the morning her friend Monifah decides it's a good idea to get her up
00:57:04
walk her around take her out of the hotel room and for some reason they're out there with this group of guys one of
00:57:13
them or several of them targeting Kanika following them around and at some point
00:57:18
they decide to split up she leaves her friend or goes elsewhere maybe Kanika goes elsewhere these guys
00:57:27
they take off she's told when she gets back to the room and doesn't see Kanika she's told by her friends that these
00:57:33
guys left well they said they left okay well then I go back to where I think Kanika is and she's not there and
00:57:40
neither of these guys aren't there either you know so I I think it painful but what the guy is saying at the end she
00:57:47
has a heart attack while we're raping her yeah and that's that's where the the toxicology report the autopsy comes back
00:57:54
into play like you said the toxicology could very well be the Holy Grail to this case and I think and I hope here's
00:58:01
what I hope I hope that once they when once they firm that up a little bit and and have a manner and a cause of death I
00:58:10
hope they don't release that to the public I hope that they keep that to themselves and I know this is a case
00:58:16
where everybody's screaming for more information and more things to be released to the public but I think the
00:58:21
police need to keep that to themselves because I tell you what I don't know how much of these texts Facebook posts and
00:58:28
things like that are true I think there's some truth in these and I think that somebody in that group has
00:58:35
cooked their Goose man and I think that once the police have a certain amount of
00:58:40
evidence and a certain amount and they have reason to believe that this was a homicide
00:58:46
I think they can go to some peop some of these people and I think it gets some of
00:58:50
them to talk yeah well and they might not even need them to talk they might have the information right on social
00:58:57
media and I think that like I said I think there's several people in this group that maybe they don't know 100
00:59:03
what happened but I think there's some people in this group that if you start piecing their stories together it starts
00:59:10
to fill out that timeline quite a bit and we can narrow this thing down a bit now there's another insane rumor that
00:59:16
has sorry there's another kind of there's another rumor out there a big rumor that is a whole nother Rabbit Hole
00:59:25
yes and this would be that this this murder let's go ahead and say kanika's situation was a murder
00:59:33
um that her murder would be tied to a previous one and this took place in 2014. there's a man by the name of
00:59:42
Joshua Martin he along with some other people killed a guy by the name of Corey Williams how does this tie in well
00:59:50
Joshua Martin the rumor is is kanika's older brother okay that they're they're related so basically her older brother
00:59:58
killed somebody yes and then this would be a Revenge killing yeah it was like a fatal shooting I some type of shootout
01:00:05
possibly um but we have a person and I and I've been on the fence about this for days
01:00:11
because there there are two people that are named two guys that are named in social media with their first and last
01:00:18
name as people that should be Suspects and I don't know that I can say their names and and I and I hate to hold back
01:00:25
from y'all but the thing is I I don't know that I can't confirm that these people were
01:00:31
at the party now there are people in this Inner Circle that are saying these people were at the party well what is
01:00:38
the tie in here other than just Josh Joshua being kanika's older brother well the tie-in is that this person who
01:00:48
has been named on the Internet is supposed to be monifah's boyfriend and somebody that has supposedly been
01:00:55
seen in those videos of the party now I don't know this guy so I can't confirm that I saw him in those videos what I
01:01:03
can say is if this person uh monifah's boyfriend and we'll give him the name th if he was at the party uh and if he is
01:01:14
in fact monifah's boyfriend I've seen video of him and this is another one of these Facebook live deals
01:01:22
where he appears to be bragging that he's no longer in Chicago on this Facebook live video and the the
01:01:31
rumor is that he had left shortly after Kanika was disappeared or was discovered
01:01:39
that he left Chicago shortly after that and they've not been able to locate him or contact him to speak with him about
01:01:48
that night well it's pretty simple uh th right so this report is going to come out both
01:01:55
reports are going to come out they're going to start investigating this as a murder and that th is going to stand for
01:02:00
the hunt and they'll start hunting this individual I'll tell you what Captain here's here's my deal right now
01:02:07
I'm at a situation where I've seen kanika's Mom talk I've I've watched her in interviews I do want to throw out
01:02:14
there I know that there were protesters in front of the hotel she did something that I commend her for she told all the
01:02:21
protesters this is to be a peaceful gathering this is to be a peaceful meeting we're trying to make awareness
01:02:28
here we're not trying to make a scene so I commend her for that I I want to be sad for her I want to be sad for her the
01:02:38
problem is this is where I'm at right now I'm so angry about this thing I haven't got to the sad part yet not for
01:02:47
me and I see it on her face and I feel I feel for her but I am I am so angry that
01:02:53
this happened to this girl in this hotel surrounded by people that were supposed to be her friends and I
01:02:59
cannot get over the fact that I I believe I don't know what the truth is here Captain I know we presented a lot
01:03:06
of different things but I believe as I said before and I'll say it again I think several people
01:03:11
there that night have a good idea what happened and they are keeping their mouth shut or they're talking to the
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wrong people and we need to get this thing cleared up I'm so angry at these people I really am
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and and they're really angry at these very nice guys well no here's the problem this is what I'm very angry
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about it's people she went there going she went there that night thinking she was surrounded by people that were her
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friends and I've I've seen several things go down that tell me I don't know if she had a friend in that entire group
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at a three out of 30 people not if any if any of them yeah and there wasn't a decent human being in that well and the
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thing he had a 30 people not one person could have been her friend that night when it counted when it counted so I
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here here's where I try to comfort myself and where I try to feel good and feel better about this I think this
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thing's solvable I think it's very solvable I think once they clear up that toxicology like you said once they clear
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up this manner of death I think they're gonna they have a small circle of people
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to work with I think if they can interview and locate everyone buddy I think I think that we are going to see
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some justice and I think we're going to see it very soon [Music] all right colonel
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do we have any recommended reading for this week we do this week we are recommending the crime of the century
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Richard Speck and the murders that shocked a nation by Dennis Brio and William J Martin this is about a famous
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very famous Chicago case and the hunt for a brutal Rampage killer back in 66 Richard Speck stabbed strangled and
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killed eight nurses in one night in a violent sexual Rampage and a side note Captain I actually believe that this is
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a case and a story that Ted Bundy probably followed fantasized about committing anyway make sure that you
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check out the crime of the century Richard Speck and the murders that shocked a nation by Dennis Brio and
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William J Martin you can do that by going to truecrime garage.com click on the recommended page we have everything
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that we've recommended there as well as our Amazon Banner you just click through
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the banner pick up your books pick up your movies it helps out the show a little bit you got a long angry drive
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home all right until next time garage friends and garage family be good be kind and don't let it
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