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a beer let's talk some true crime laughs [Music] [Music] foreign yeah um so I just got home from work and
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uh my wife was in there which is unusual and my kids should have been there by now from like daycare so I was like oh
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maybe she went on a walk um I couldn't find her so I called the daycare to see what time she picked up
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the kids the kids were never picked up so I got freaked out so I hit like to find my iPhone app thing
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and it said that her it showed her phone like at our end of our driveway we don't
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have really good service okay uh not the end of our driveway but the end of our street but just drove down there and I
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saw her phone with her headphones because she started running again and it's her I found her phone it's got like
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hair ripped out of it like in the headphones so I'm like totally freaking out thinking like somebody like what's
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her grabbed her okay what's your address ready okay what's your last name yes papini p-a-p-i-n-i and your first name
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uh Keith k-e-i-t-h yes okay did you go pick up your children I'm gonna call my mom and have her okay
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what's your wife's name I'm gonna like knock on every door uh Siri s-h-e-r-r-i I'm saying last name
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yes she white female yeah what's our date of birth uh it is uh June 11 1982. is her vehicle
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vehicle she has a vehicle who's at the house okay the vehicle is at the house she's right oh okay yes I'm in it right
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now driving and I took a picture of her phone on the ground before I picked it up okay how tall is she
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five how much does she weigh 100 pounds eye color uh okay hair color hold on do you know what she was wearing
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I'm assuming she went running okay okay there's not an outfit she always wears or anything like that she run with
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a dog or by herself by herself okay what time are the kids to start running again and we live in it
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when's the last time when's the last time you heard from her all right she sent me a text asking me
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if I was coming home for lunch um uh give me one second she sent me at 10 47 asking if I was
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coming home from lunch from work and I said sorry long day and that was the last I never spoke to you on the
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phone or any other time and what time are the kids supposed to be picked up way before 5 30 he usually goes at like
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4 45. that's 4 30 4 45. foreign [Applause] back to the house or where are you at
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right now I'm at the end of the driveway we're uh I'm at the old Oregon Trail and sunrise
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where they leave because that's right where I found her phone on the ground he's telling me that something happened
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to her is the way I'm looking at it there's like then there was hair like in the headphones
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like it got ripped off of like the ground yeah no I I understand I understand okay I'm sorry I know you're
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gonna give me a call but obviously what kind of vehicle are you in I'm in a black Kia Optima
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okay and I live I mean we live down kind of a sketchy street so I definitely I don't
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know if I'm allowed to knock on everybody's door but I will on the left let's just have the officers contact you
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so they can start you know processing everything figure out what's going on okay
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and I understand you're freaking out a little bit we want to we want to make sure we get your kids
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make sure they're okay yeah I'm gonna call my mom and have her yeah do you want me to wait right here if you
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want to head back to your residence so they can contact you there and in case she does return
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okay okay to Residence call us back if anything changes all right all right so they're gonna call the
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number you just put down the three five they'll probably call you when they're on their way and they're going to come
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out in person okay okay thank you you're welcome okay bye-bye [Music] [Music] that call came into Shasta County
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California Sheriff's Office on Wednesday November 2nd 2016 at 5 41 p.m now the caller identified himself as Keith
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papini he comes home from work to an empty house his wife and kids should have been there what he does not say on
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the 9-1-1 call but what was later reported is he did try to call and text Sherry
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but received no answer later he finds his wife's phone and headphones he finds this about a mile away from their house
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at the intersection of Sunrise Drive and old Oregon Trail there is hair to which he says appears
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to have been ripped off of her head he reports her missing obviously his wife is Sherry papini date of birth June
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11 1982 she's five foot three inches tall 100 pounds she has blonde hair and blue eyes
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Keith went on to tell 9-1-1 that he found Sherry's car at the house and that he drove her car down the road to search
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for her and the phone while the 911 operator was asking questions about Sherry Keith interjected
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that he took a picture of the phone as he had found it he said he had no idea what Sherry was wearing but assumed
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running close he reiterated that she had just started running again Keith told the operator that he last
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heard from Sherry when she sent him a text asking if he was coming home for lunch this text received by Keith at 10
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47 am now the kids were supposed to be picked up between 4 30 and 5 p.m he says so
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sometime between 10 47 a.m and 4 30 p.m something happened to Sherry where was 34 year old Sherry papini she
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was nowhere to be found and her iPhone was disturbingly left on the side of the road near their home yeah not only did
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Keith call his wife and Texas wife to say hey where are you I can't find you he also called the kids school and said
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hey what time did my wife pick up the kids and then they replied she hasn't been here to pick up the kids so this is
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super weird everything as he describes it very unusual he's expecting to see his wife he's actually fearing that
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she's been grabbed as he says it now the call came in just shortly before 6 pm and the police were at the papini's
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mountain gate home at 6 30 PM an official search got underway a helicopter searched the area using a
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night Spotlight patrol cars drove around the area the Shasta County Sheriff's Office investigators they blocked off
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this area where the phone was found and they're looking for any clues that they can find as to what could have happened
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to this woman now there is a photo available online of something found in that area that police labeled with a
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number three evidence marker it's not clear what it is but it looks like a black and pink belt or fanny pack of
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some sort fancy police have never addressed this item publicly Keith and Sherry's sister Sheila both
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made very public tear filled pleas for the safe return of their wife and sister Billboards went up with Sherry's image
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the community came together attending prayer vigils and balloon releases a fifty thousand dollar reward was offered
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for information leading to Sherry's whereabouts ten thousand dollars of this which came from the secret witness
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organization and the rest of which was raised by supporters of the family yeah this is a pretty large sum from this
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organization this secret organization but they said that when they saw the pleads on TV that they said we have to
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help we have to do something yeah it's not a secret organization it's just in the title secret witness organization so
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the search captain really turns up nothing all they really come up with here is the phone the headphones that
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are attached to the phone and as the husband says hair that is attached to the hair the headphones it appears to
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have been ripped off of her head yeah he also makes to claim that he took the picture of the phone before he touched
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it I don't know if it matters if I believe him or not but I actually don't believe that statement
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I know that he showed a photo to the Sheriff's Department of the phone itself but again it see it seems like a weird
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thing to do just off of just general Instinct I think I would naturally just grab the phone and pick up the phone
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before thinking to take a photograph of it yeah I'd almost assume that somebody would have to pick up a phone first to
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figure out if it's their wife's phone you know I mean like you couldn't just tell from right out of shock you're like
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oh you would grab it to verify that it it is in fact her phone right like and then you're like oh my God should we
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address the 9-1-1 call first before we get too far into the search for Sherry yeah because I mean we just played it so
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it's on everybody's Minds the first thing I want to point out here is for people not familiar with this case I
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have seen Keith and other interviews and so where you hear him on the the 9-1-1 call a couple times you hear him
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kind of laugh I think that's more of like or like a giggle I think it's more of a uh like
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nervous tick yeah that he has it's it's not you know he's not being light of the
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situation in fact he's the one pushing the issue that he believes that she was grabbed so ignore the the giggles
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because he kind of just does that and then you'll also hear the the the heavy breathing or the exhaling that's another
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thing that I've seen him do in several interviews as well it's you know he's he's stressed out but also he's upset
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about the situation yeah but he was in a panic to try to find her he drives down
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to their where they get their mail and then he's running around outside the car trying to
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look for any clues of his wife I don't find it odd a lot of people find a lot of things odd about the 911 call I
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actually find very few things strange in the 911 well if you don't understand his
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natural demeanor I think he would but like you said watch a couple more interviews get to know the person and
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then I think the 9-1-1 call makes a lot more sense yeah yeah and I mean I don't find it strange that he assume she's
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been abducted or grabbed as he says it I don't find that strange in the least bit uh some people point to that that
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you know he kind of jumped to that conclusion rather quickly phone is on the ground right right the the only
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thing I find strange about the call is where he says several times that that she started running again it's almost
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like it's almost like too much information and repeated again and again as if you're really trying to sell that
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idea but she did though because her family was gonna run in some local charity run and uh and so she started
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running again and some people point to his statement or his question rather 2911 where he asked if he's allowed to
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knock on the doors of of people in the neighborhood again I don't find that to be strange
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because what I what I get the general sense I get from Keith and his communication with 9-1-1
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is he's trying to tell them that he needs help that his wife is missing but he's also trying to be very upfront and
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very Cooperative almost like you know 9-1-1 is the expert right here I don't want to do anything that's out of turn I
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don't want to step on anyone's toes I don't want to knock on doors and then the police show up and go well why the
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hell did you knock on doors the reason why I think people find that odd is he brings it up and he gets cut off by the
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dispatcher and then he brings it up again almost as if it was like rehearsed you know or he had some script and you
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cut me off for my script so now I got to go back to my script or she just didn't answer his question
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right and he brings it up again so what we know here is that the co the call comes in and really they truly find
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nothing when they go looking for Sherry now the day after she went missing on November
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3rd the Shasta County Sheriff's Department gave a press conference this would be one of the very few times that
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the sheriff's office would make public statements regarding this case Sheriff Tom basenko pledged that he
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would not generally release new information while the case was being investigated now he confirmed finding
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Sherry's earbuds and phone near her home he said that the Sheriff's Office was checking with local registered sex
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offenders there were four men living within a mile of the papini home that were registered sex offenders and
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hundreds more in the surrounding areas yeah besenko also said that about two dozen search and rescue Personnel were
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combing the area around the home and the search would be expanded as needed he emphasized that Sherry papini did not
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have any physical or mental health conditions that would explain her disappearance and that there were no
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history of calls for major incidents at the papini home news articles from the early days of the
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search simply state that Sherry's family believed that she was abducted While She
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Was Out jogging now one thing that makes this case frustrating and difficult to cover is the lack of reliable
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information available really the information that we have the only information that we have other than the
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tiny bit addressed by besenko at the press conference comes from two people Sheila coaster who is Sherry's sister
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and Keith papini now Sheila and Keith both gave numerous interviews to Major media sources like
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People magazine in 2020. right Keith in particular is very very publicly visible
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bringing awareness to his missing wife's Case by making the rounds of the various
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news shows right but we've seen that before with uh Christopher Watts yeah so let's take a quick look at who the
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papinis are okay Captain what do we know about Keith and Sherry yeah well they both grew up in Reading California this
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is an overwhelmingly white conservative religious community party Keith and Sherry were childhood sweethearts they
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met in seventh grade according to Keith and then later reconnected as adults yeah I believe the big thing that you
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see it uh reported over and over and over is they they kissed one time in seventh grade
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apparently Keith kept all of the notes that they passed between the two of them when they were in middle school yeah he
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seems to be very enamored with his wife he talks constantly about how beautiful and perfect she is and says that he is
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head over heels for her Sherry had been married once before and there is some question as to whether she
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was married when she took up with Keith yeah there's some weirdness there now regardless the couple the couple had a
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fairy tale wedding in 2009 and the couple has two children Violet and Tyler ages two and four now there are lots of
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photos and family photos online of both the couple in the family and Sherry is quite striking with very long Almost
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White looking blonde hair big blue eyes and a big smile kind of like the Poltergeist girl all grown up she was
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this is one thing that's kind of confusing here captain and it's very unclear she was either working part-time
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for a t and or staying at home with the kids yeah or she had recently quit working at
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A T it's it's it's a little tricky yeah it seems like most reports state that she was a stay-at-home mother
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the two kids they were enrolled in daycare this is a couple days a week that they would attend this daycare yeah
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now Sherry liked to dabble in arts and crafts and she was active on her Etsy and Pinterest accounts
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Keith was an audio video specialist in The Geek Squad at the reading Best Buy from what it looked like online he's
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probably making about 50 to 60 thousand dollars a year now the two owned a two-story home this is the home that
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they lived in in the community of mountain gate it was actually Keith's childhood home
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it is not believed that that they owed any money on this home apparently they purchased it for a hundred and twenty
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eight thousand dollars from Keith's parents now they also had two cars Sherry's friends and family all describe Sherry
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as a super mom who always liked things to be perfect whose kids were angels and who could make a mean pie crust from
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scratch Keith's mom and stepdad lived nearby and were very very involved in their daily
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lives Sherry's parents lived in Arizona well how about you take us through the day she went missing well as as we said
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most of what we know about the day that she went missing November 2nd 2016. this comes directly
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from Keith right he says he left for work around 6 50 a.m and Sherry was there at the house to see him off Sherry
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dropped the kids off at daycare as usual sometime between 8 30 and 9 A.M he told the 9-1-1 operator that Sherry
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text him at 10 47 a.m to see if he was coming home for lunch he says he didn't have his personal
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phone on him while he was doing an installation so he didn't respond to her until 1 39 PM we don't know if this was
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a regular thing meaning for Keith to go home for lunch right but I do want to point out that the Best Buy where he
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worked was a 20-minute drive from his house so it seems like this was very likely a not not a regular thing a
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little strange right well yeah I mean if you consider that if you if you get an hour for lunch let's say you're going to
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spend 40 minutes of that driving you know to and from my guess here is because he does do installations that he
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may come home if he happens to be doing an install somewhere closer to his home yeah that makes a lot of sense yeah that
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that's kind of what I'm guessing and so I'm guessing that's probably not a regular thing for her to text him either
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are you coming home for lunch this might just be a one-off yeah it happens once in a while or it's one of those things
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that if he's don't come home right don't come home yeah I got a boyfriend over uh
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no but it could be one of those things where he's out on service calls a lot oh yeah
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and so it doesn't matter where he's at he just goes home for lunch because it's hard for them to track his whereabouts
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there are reports that Sherry was seen at an eyebrow salon at the Mount Shasta Mall that morning and at a Michael's
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craft store and there's some of the items she purchased at Michael's were found at their house but this is kind of
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a weird statement that I found amongst these things not all of the items were found there is
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what one report States okay I don't know what that means they don't go any into any detail there yeah well I'd like to
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see a detailed list of what was bought Keith also said that it appeared that that Sherry was in the midst of wrapping
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a Christmas present for him this was a homemade U.S flag pillow which was found partially wrapped again
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here here's the thing we don't know if any of this is actually correct as none of it has been verified publicly by law
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enforcement we also know that there are several neighbor Witnesses who believe that they saw Sherry heading out on a
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run that day the problem is that none of them agree as to what time they saw her
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so neighbor John Bishop says he saw her around 9 A.M that she was out near the mailboxes another neighbor says it was
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closer to 11AM and then some tree technicians working in the area supposedly saw her around
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2PM this was the time that sheriff besenko said he believed she was last seen [Music]
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all right we're back cheers mates cheers to you captain and just a quick reminder
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Bud Night Platinum or whatever okay back to our missing person case captain there was a GoFundMe page that was set
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up this was immediately and it was started by Sherry's family yeah now we find a little more
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information there it says that they believe that Sherry was last seen on Sunrise Drive at approximately 2 p.m and
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she was either jogging or walking alone they also point out that jogging or walking alone is normal for her
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again I find it odd that the family keeps talking about how normal it is for her to be running just seems again it
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just seems a big I think above and beyond but I think it goes back to the fact that her family a bunch of members
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were going to run into in this race and they were going to wear costumes or something it was going to raise money
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for something so I think it's I think it was something that was on their mind all
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of their minds and they're all training for this event I I just find it weird that they keep pointing out how normal
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it is to be well yeah and I kind of find it a little weird and I think a lot of people find it a little weird that you
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start a GoFundMe page right away yeah I don't know about that for me it's just weird the way that they they phrase that
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kind of stuff it's like like if I Disappeared like he was last seen driving which was normal for him he was
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very it was very normal for him to drive places it's it's not like last seen walking he normally walks with his legs
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right we're not talking about some abnormal behavior we're talking about jogging or running you know it's uh mine
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would be like they found him with a beer cannon in his hand and his pants down but that was normal for him see that's
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abnormal behavior you would need to point out that it's normal for a person or for that person to be doing that
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that's just where I'm I'm going with that now she was last seen wearing a running top now one of the family
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members did post a picture of this top online it was a black and pink running jacket remember uh Keith wasn't able to
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give a description of what she was last wearing because he wasn't home at the time that she stepped out to go jogging
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yeah and just like you pointed out a little more clarification here Keith told police that Sherry was in the
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process of training For an upcoming Thanksgiving Day Road Race and that he believed she was heading out
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for a run that day and then abducted by someone while she was out there now much
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of what happened when Keith got home we heard from him on the 9-1-1 call he says he pulled into the driveway
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expecting to see his son come running out uh found no one in the house and he tracked Sherry's iPhone to near the
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mailboxes where he then drove after jumping into Sherry's car well on this how he did it was uh that tracked my
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phone app correct so some people point out here if it's weird that he switched cars you know no one's really sure why
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he got into her car after just arriving home in his car yeah um I want to point out a couple things
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here it sounds to me in the 9-1-1 call that he is saying that he's expecting to find
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his wife and kids when he goes looking for her phone using the Find My Phone app uh
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I'm just wondering if they only had car seats maybe in her car and so he he you know very mindful of
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this he jumps in her car to go retrieve them that's one thought I have the other
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thought I think by this point he's probably already called the daycare and and asked has my wife picked up the
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kids yet could be we don't know that to be to be the case I'm just wondering why
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why anybody would do this uh why somebody would switch the cars there seems to to me there there's either a
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reason for it or it's just just a complete weird thing here yeah so my other thought would be is if if it
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was just as simple as those were the first keys that he saw and I'm only kind of circling around this Captain because
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I've seen several people point out that they think this is extremely strange and
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bizarre that he chose to take her car regarding the official search for Sherry Sheriff paseco acknowledged early on
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that the circumstances of her disappearance seem to be suspicious but he said that Sherry's disappearance
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could be voluntary but it also could be involuntary yeah he said law enforcement was proceeding
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with an open mind and they continued to investigate all angles including the following checking with family friends
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and Associates of shares looking at surveillance video from local homes and businesses they did this they
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found nothing they were checking local motels and hotels they were looking into the family's
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finances Sherry's bank cards and her license were found in their home they were pouring over cell tower data
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and phone records and social media accounts they were also canvassing the neighbors and speaking with people in
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the area as we stated they were checking on registered sex offenders in the area
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apparently there are about 900 in that county flicky flicky they were following up on more than 400 tips and supposed
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sightings including one highly publicized sighting of Sherry at a truck stop that turned out to be a case of
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mistaken identity yeah well hold on because I love the report that some lady thinks it's her so she goes up and says
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hey Sherry is this you and the lady seems absolutely confused so they reported that she went up to Sherry and
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Sherry was completely confused right it's just like well yeah she was really confused because she's not Sherry there
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you go there you go they were also reviewing missing persons cases from around the nation to determine if any of
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them were possibly related to Sherry's case now investigators filed 20 search warrants
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although it's not disclosed exactly what they were looking for with these warrants but the Shasta County Sheriff's
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Office officials discovered that Sherry had been married before and they checked
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in with her ex-husband his name is David Dreyfus aged 32 at the time he was living out of the state of California
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yeah so you didn't live anywhere close to her and in fact he had not had any contact with her as far as police could
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find and about six years or more yeah the two filed for divorce papers in September of
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2008 this was uh less than a year after they were married by the time the divorce was finalized in
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January of 2009 Sherry was living with Keith Now searches for Sherry continued with
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the search parties combing the woods and police following up on tips but one strange thing LED people to scratch
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their heads in this case very early on this is Sheriff besenko brought in search dogs to track Sherry scent but
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they didn't hit on anything as he told CNN quote the dogs didn't hit on anything which makes it a little bit
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abnormal he goes on to say and now it's almost ideal weather conditions we've had it's in the fall here on the West
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Coast in this area so it's a little bit cooler and we've had some rain and that helps too for the scent conditions and
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the dogs didn't hit on any scent if Sherry had run or walked from the house to the mailbox area
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her scent should be it should have been detected by these trained canines okay now a family friend right let's let's
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Ponder this for a second so what you're saying is that she gets dressed puts her running
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shoes on she takes off running that the dog the dog should have followed the scent down
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the driveway out to the road and they don't hit on anything nothing do they I mean I'm guessing that they
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hit honor sent in the house yeah so here here's where this becomes a big problem and that's why I was very
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quick to point out in this case we're trying to present all the facts however the the facts quote unquote facts that
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we have come from Sherry's husband and from her sister regarding law enforcement they spent a
00:35:46
lot of time investigating this disappearance however they're not saying anything
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they've not said much publicly uh in what they have released it's like they choose to release some things and then
00:35:56
other things they're not commenting on again with with the dogs not finding a scent we know that that happened because
00:36:02
that's what the sheriff said publicly what I'm wondering remember we have her husband who says it appeared like she
00:36:10
was wrapping gifts at the house right and I found a gift that was partially wrapped and it's the family it's her
00:36:18
family that are saying she was out jogging and she was abducted well we we have possibly an eyewitness
00:36:27
outside that day nobody's saying that she was abducted when they saw her I also think if she was training if it was
00:36:36
so normal for her to be out running by herself that some of the people that could have saw her it could have just
00:36:44
been mistaken on which day they saw her yeah well we'll get into the Neighbors in a little bit but one thing I want to
00:36:51
throw out there is a possible Theory again the only people that we have saying that she was out jogging and she
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was abducted While She Was Out jogging is her family what if they're just wrong what if she
00:37:06
was actually you know the dogs aren't going to lie to you um people lie these dogs aren't going to
00:37:12
tell a lie so unless there's just some weird reason that the dogs aren't effective
00:37:19
I I get that I do get that but what I'm questioning is is there a chance that she was actually abducted from the home
00:37:26
and that the phone was just later tossed out the the vehicle window by her abductor right or by by you know her for
00:37:36
whatever reason at all I think what they're doing is finding the phone is leading them to believe oh she was
00:37:42
spotted outside a couple times we found her phone it was normal for her to run she was abducted while she was jogging
00:37:48
which just might be wrong we have a family friend and this is Mike Mangus uh he was a local reading news anchor at
00:37:57
the time he was the one that managed to get the story covered on Good Morning America remember we said the family was
00:38:05
really trying to get this story out there in their family friend Mike helped this get on a national level yeah well
00:38:13
it never hurts cases to become popular when there's a pretty girl going missing right so we have a whole bunch of stuff
00:38:21
going on and in the wake of all of this we have Sheriff besenko who admitted to People
00:38:28
magazine that quote there were no real viable leads end quote in this case and then he tells KRCR TV
00:38:38
they reported basically the same thing this report came out on November 17th that no credible information has been
00:38:45
learned relating to Sherry's disappearance he goes on to say I know the family believes that she was
00:38:51
abducted we don't have anything to lead us that way nor to dissuade us that she wasn't abducted in any way in other
00:39:00
words it it sounds like law enforcement was kind of clueless as to what was going on
00:39:06
and they were a little bit upfront in public about that now for people that are not familiar with this case
00:39:13
the weird thing that we're trying to point out here is law enforcement seems to have some question about this
00:39:20
disappearance about this woman going missing whether it was voluntary or involuntary yeah and if it was voluntary
00:39:30
is somebody else is anybody else in on this whole hoax if it was involuntary who else is involved in this real
00:39:38
kidnapping yeah on November 15 2016 tvkobi 5 reported that the FBI had become involved in the effort to find
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Sherry which by now had consumed hundreds of man hours despite this reporting Sheriff besenko felt the need
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to address the FBI's involvement he did this on Tuesday November 21st saying that people were asking him why
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the FBI was not more involved and he said quote we have bulletins out Statewide Nationwide and Mrs papini has
00:40:14
been entered into Nationwide computer system for missing persons other agencies are assisting the Shasta
00:40:23
County Sheriff's Office such as the Reading Police Department as well as the FBI it became clear that the FBI's role
00:40:32
was simply one of assisting with an investigator or two and providing the resources of its cellular analysis
00:40:41
survey team but the Shasta County Sheriff's Office their Major Crimes unit they were in charge of this
00:40:49
investigation just to be clear so more than two weeks after Sherry vanished the scso stated that Sherry was considered a
00:41:02
missing person at risk with suspicious circumstances and another confusing angle
00:41:09
the California Department of Justice initially categorized Sherry's disappearance as voluntary missing adult
00:41:16
rather than missing at risk labeled by the Sheriff's Department according to local media there's a local
00:41:25
media Outlet reading.com missing at risk essentially means there's no evidence of a crime yet but
00:41:32
there's also no history of leaving the home or anything else to indicate a person's disappearance was willful
00:41:40
Sherry's family said that Sherry would never ever leave her children voluntarily in their minds and an
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abduction was certain now regardless of theories Sherry was gone there was no doubt about that
00:41:57
but there was no Ransom demand and neither the papinis nor their extended families none of them were wealthy and
00:42:06
this was this was released by the sheriff now the only evidence of an abduction was the phone being found by the side of
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the road by Keith himself and Sheriff besenko told 2020 quote it looked like it could have been
00:42:21
placed there along with the earbuds being placed on top of the phone screen the phone it seems didn't look as though
00:42:30
it had been roughly pulled out of Sherry's hands her headphones jerked out of her ears and dumped there
00:42:38
instead according to the sheriff the the headphones were neatly positioned on top
00:42:44
of the phone as it lie on the ground now besenko said on the Today Show the phone had been set in some grass with
00:42:53
the screen facing up and then the earbuds to the phone were Loosely coiled and appeared to have been placed on the
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screen it did somewhat appear to be that it was placed there purposely he goes on to say quote we believe it
00:43:10
was a few pieces of her hair that was there with the earbuds and the phone I have nothing really to add to this
00:43:19
Captain it's these are statements by the sheriff if he thinks that it looks like
00:43:23
somebody could have neatly placed it there I'm gonna have to go with that statement
00:43:27
I didn't find the phone the the phone is is weird in itself because that's the indicator that she was taken outside of
00:43:35
the home and what we know about the phone again like everything else goes back to Keith
00:43:42
and what Keith is telling us about what happened that day but again we have the dog sent evidence that possibly she did
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not run out of the house naturally like with any investigation the police took a hard look at Keith
00:44:01
now whether he was considered a prime suspect at the time they always do really would depend on whom you would
00:44:09
ask besenko stated that Keith had been 100 cooperative he handed over his computer the family's
00:44:18
computer phones and records with no hesitation he had an alibi we know he was at work
00:44:24
that day Keith's stepfather Rodriguez who had a very active social media presence in this case posted
00:44:34
online defending Keith he said Keith had been interrogated numerous times and had
00:44:39
an alibi verified by the GPS on his work vehicle he also never lawyered up had his whereabouts confirmed by cell
00:44:48
phone tracking as well and provided the police Total Access to the home and cars
00:44:54
without a warrant on the night Sherry vanished uh yeah look all that seems good but remember what his job is
00:45:03
an expert at technology he's a geek he's a geek he's on the Geek Squad yeah so if
00:45:10
you take offense at that he shouldn't have signed up for the Geek Squad now uh he also handed over all of his
00:45:18
electronic devices this is where I find something of of very strong importance I believe to this
00:45:26
case and it's something that we typically don't like Captain but we have a statement and this comes from the
00:45:33
sheriff himself says Keith took a polygraph on November 7th that lasted according to 2020 four hours oh that's
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that's a long time God that sucks uh so he took a polygraph test on on November 7th
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and Sheriff besenko told 2020 that Keith passed this lie detector test and that Keith was not a suspect in The
00:46:00
Disappearance of his wife yeah now we know that Keith what don't we like about that though
00:46:06
because I like that no no I like four hours I like that whole thing but but we often say that we don't like polygraph
00:46:13
tests I don't like him coming out saying that he's not a suspect I mean I'm glad you
00:46:19
took a polygraph test you're doing everything you can hey we got the husband let's try to rule him out it's
00:46:25
normally the husband so get him to take this long in-depth polygraph test he passed I'm not making statements to
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maybe the cops are making statements that he's not suspect anymore because they don't want the heat on him through
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social media and through the media maybe that's the case because there's a lot of
00:46:47
times that the wife goes missing and the heat on the on the husband gets pretty bad
00:46:53
yeah and I'm guessing that not just the lie detector test but all things encompassed in their investigation I'm
00:47:03
guessing that what the story he's telling them they have no reason to believe that he's being dishonest they
00:47:09
have no evidence to suggest that what he is saying or what he believes to be true
00:47:14
is not the truth and I think that's where you get the he's not a suspect type thing okay now
00:47:21
Keith gave an interview to People Magazine on November 10th so this stuff is all happening very quickly as it
00:47:29
should in this case but what we're seeing that we don't always see in in these types of cases are very public on
00:47:37
a national level moves to interviews and things like that this is on the 10th Keith says that there was no way that
00:47:45
Sherry left on her own accord he said she is my wife I know everything about her I know that my wife would never
00:47:53
leave me and never in a million years leave our kids after almost two weeks official searches
00:48:01
for Sherry ended and the family felt that they needed to take the situation under their control
00:48:09
Sherry's friend Lisa Jeter contacted a man whom she had seen speak out about human trafficking in the area
00:48:18
this man was reading native Cameron gamble gamble called himself an international kidnap and Ransom
00:48:25
consultant he was a former Air Force senior Airman and now trained military law enforcement
00:48:34
and private citizens on how to evade and Escape capture gamble believed that Sherry had been
00:48:41
abducted and asked Keith for permission to try an aggressive approach to getting
00:48:46
Sherry back it's not really clear how this all came about gamble says someone put him in touch
00:48:54
with an unnamed man who offered to donate money to act as a reward payment to whomever returned Sherry safely
00:49:05
a sort of reverse Ransom if you will the anonymous donor offered to put up fifty thousand dollars to pay off the
00:49:14
captors if they released Sherry 12 Days After Sherry vanished gamble posted a video of himself making the offer and
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speaking directly to the captors saying quote I've been retained by an individual who wishes to remain
00:49:31
anonymous an individual who has come forward to offer a cash reward for a ransom for Sherry papini's safe return
00:49:39
to her family I don't know your motive I don't know who you are I don't care I simply care about getting Sherry back
00:49:48
gamble said the money would be paid upon Sherry's release without law enforcement
00:49:53
presence and with no questions asked as for the anonymous donor he initiated the
00:49:59
website sherrypopini.com and posted a note to the reading police in Shasta County Sheriff's Department that said
00:50:07
please don't threaten me I have received legal counsel and what I am doing is within my rights according to Cameron
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gamble the video went viral now when that failed to flush out the perpetrators gamble posted a second
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video on the day before Thanksgiving November 23rd 2016. saying that the reward was now off the
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table instead if they didn't let Sherry go the donated funds would be added to the reward fund already established to
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pay anyone who came forward with information leading to Sherry's abductors essentially putting an
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approximately one hundred thousand dollar bounty on the abductors heads as gamble called it
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in this video he says quote the world has been looking for Sherry papini and now the world is going to be looking for
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you [Music] oh so many twists and turns and speculations to get to in part two and
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