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[Music] % [Music] welcome to the garage party wherever you are and whatever you may be doing thank
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you for listening and thank you for joining the party I'm your host Nick and with me as always co-hosting and Master
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of Ceremonies ladies and gentlemen the captain it is good to be seen and good to see you thanks for listening and
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thanks thanks for telling a friend what a beautiful tuxedo you have there Captain this week we will be rolling out
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the red carpet as we celebrate you the listeners us the host and your favorite garage Studio this week marks a very
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impressive podcast Milestone of 500 that's a five followed by two zeros episodes and to celebrate this most
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impressive of milestones we will count down our 10 greatest True Crime garage trailers of all time that's right it's a
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feature of our show that most True Crime shows don't have each week the captain composes some great music and pulls a
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clip or two or maybe the colonel does a little write up for that week's case each case that we have covered here in
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the garage is unique and each week the trailer that we put together is just as unique as the case that we are covering
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so please join us won't you as we celebrate you the listeners for making this possible back when we started in
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2015 we didn't think anybody would listen to two beer drinking dorks recording in a garage but now it's
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almost 6 years later and we have one of the best brightest and most beautiful audience in all of True Crime podcasting
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and so this week we celebrate you heck many of you have been with us since 2015 or
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2016 and we truly hope that you have enjoyed the ride as much as we have this week to celebrate in a proper fashion we
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are drinking Angels Envy Kentucky straight handcrafted bourbon call me oldfashioned Captain but I believe real
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bourbon comes from Kentucky garage grade of course five out of five bottle caps so to all of you out there in listener
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land that's right I'm talking to you friends colleagues True Crime garage Army and citizens of Parts Unknown
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wherever you are whatever you are doing raise a cup Your Glass a tall can be it Bourbon Coffee wine beer or soda cuz
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this one is for you let's talk some true crime [Music] this is true crime garage and this is the case of Son of
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[Music] Sam I Am I am am monst monst [Music] I am deeply hurt by you calling me a
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woman hater I am not but I am a monster I am the Son of Sam I'm a little brat when father Sam gets drunk he gets
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mean he beats his family sometimes he ties me up to the back of the house other times he locks
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me in the garage Sam loves to drink blood go out and kill commands father Sam behind our house some rest mostly
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young raped and slaughtered their blood drained just bones now Papa Sam keeps me locked in the
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Attic too I can't get out but I look out the Attic Window and I watch the world go
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by I feel like an outsider I'm on a different wavelength than everybody else programmed to
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kill however to stop me you must kill me attention all police shoot me first shoot the killer
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else keep out of my way or you will die Papa Sam is old now he needs some blood to preserve his youth he's had too
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many heart attacks too many heart attacks it hurts sunny boy I miss my pretty princess most of
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all she's resting in our lady's house but I'll see her soon I am the monster be abub the chubby
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boohemoth I love to hunt prowling the streets looking for fair game tasty meat the women of Queens are the
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prettiest of all I must be the water they drink I live for the hunt my life blood for
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Papa Mr burelli sir I don't want to kill anymore no sir no more but I must honor thy
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father I want to make love to the world I love people I don't belong on Earth return me to the
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yahoos to the people of Queens I love you and I want to wish you all a Happy Easter may God bless you in this life
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and in the next and for now I say goodbye and good night police let me haunt you with these
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words I'll be back I'll be back to be interpreted as bang bang bang yours and murder Mr monster I am I
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am monster [Music] monster can't believe that one is only number 10 cuz when you say the chubby boo
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chubby boohemoth the chubby boohemoth hey I just said it the David burkowitz wrote it yeah but you won the the Emmy
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for that the uh funny thing here that's episode 21 of True Crime garage way back
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in the day and that one look I promise it's not going to be this scary the entire top 10
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Countdown I mean between the the your friend over here that is weird me out that you invited into the garage to to
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count him down 10 10 that guy Mortal Kombat he refuses to tell me his name he's just staring at me weird between
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him he's a chubby Bohemian right between him and the uh the Son of Sam trailer there I'm uh I'm on edge man I'm on edge
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this is supposed to be a party I'm supposed to be having a good time bang bang bang that was a great trailer and
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of course that was the uh Son of Sam who wrote that trailer essentially themselves Captain knows how much I love
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anytime we have a case that involves writings from the killer or letters sent to newspapers or taunts sent to police
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or even TV news outlets it's weird to be a fan of something like that but it's one
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of those situations where I find it incredibly intriguing I find it very interesting that someone would take it
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to that level and have to fill some kind kind of weird need of communicating with
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others while they're supposed to be hiding from police and instead it's a it's a taunt it's it's to mock the
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investigation and mock the public who is afraid at the time but it dramatically him he loves Queens dramatically
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increases the risk that the offender is taking along the way as well yeah and I believe that was our
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first dramatic reading during a trailer and it was I thought it was effective but it was
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also it felt a little silly also at the time because of the words like chubby boohemoth but let's get into number
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[Music] nine the press and the media make you think that a black man arming himself is
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illegal or criminal or that he wants to arm himself to rob a liquor store or some you know what I'm saying that is
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for me to defend myself and it should always be it's just about surviving you know and we have to be honest about the
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tools that we use to survive and why is a black life um any any more recoupable than a white life
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you know what I'm saying we know that they don't put the same Security in the ghetto that they do in the whites and in
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the white neighborhood so therefore for me to be out here saying don't you know put your guns down and no violence
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that's hypocritical and if I didn't talk about the violence everybody would act like the violence wasn't there we as
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rappers bought that violence we we bought the violence that we seen on the street put in our records put in our
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records for years and after 3 four years people finally starting to see it because of all the statistics that's
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going on in the streets if we stop talking about it then they wouldn't take statistics and when they stop taking
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statistics then we' be killing each other in the street and these white people wouldn't care no more only people
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they only reason they care is cuz you know there's been some Strays and we done slipped over in the white
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neighborhoods and there kids in Iowa that want to be like us you know what I'm saying there kids in in Indiana
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that's trying to be like us cuz they can relate too you know what I'm saying you
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even admit it I don't live in that neighborhood anymore there's no real reason for you to carry a 9 mm don't
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believe that why in the in two years I've had a gun pulled on me by my limo driver by police by everybody you know
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what I'm saying and I better be I better be you know what I'm saying I've been attacked you ain't read the papers about
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these skin heads trying to blow up black churches why they see me as the enemy just like y'all do you know what I'm
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saying they can come to my house and sit outside my house just like anybody else
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can a skin headit and once my life is gone it's gone can't nobody give it back to me not the judge not the president
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not the governor not Calvin buts not Jesse Jackson they can't do nothing but come to my funeral and talk pretty about
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how black people suffer and once my life is gone it's [Music] gone and obviously that's the late great
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tupon Shakur those are episodes 112 and 113 if people want to keep track keep score at
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home and go back and check out some of the old episodes maybe we are presenting trailers to you that you are hearing for
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the first time today yeah it's a nice feeling when somebody messages you and they say for example let's take the
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Tupac Shakur case and they say oh I just watched this documentary I would love to
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hear you guys cover Tupac's case and you go well go to 112 113 and he can check it out and they get so excited cuz they
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don't have to wait they don't have to go oh well maybe they'll put it on the list
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maybe they'll do it in a couple months want oh it's already done awesome and also I think it's just a nice feeling I
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think when we started doing the podcast it was just to see if we could do it I don't even remember if we ever talked
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about putting it out like before we we tried before we sat down flipped on microphones yeah it was just simply hey
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would you like to try a podcast would you like to try to do one not let's put it out for the world to hear and then
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once we did a couple we're like well let's just put it out and see what happens and 500 episodes later the
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people that we meet at crime con that tell me they're like you know I've been with you guys since the beginning I give
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them an extra big thank you because I'm like you are very understanding and patient person we
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used to get up in the middle of recording and go get a beer and keep talking on Mike so it it would sound
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like this hey I'm going to go to the fridge and I'm coming back and now I'm back and here we am and I think you
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cleared it up and said it better than I did I said you know when we started this
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we didn't think anybody would listen to two guys in a garage uh but you're right we're
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recording it not even with the idea of putting it out or releasing it to the world at the time it was just something
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to set up and see if we could do and if if it's painful to listen to one or two of those first early episodes It's
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because we're in pain we're sitting in a garage that was like 110 gripping yeah the beers were necessary
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just to try to keep us uh cooled down to the point that we wouldn't expire during
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the the actual episode itself and while we're doing this here Captain I want to make sure we give out some uh beer fun
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shout outs along the way so raise of the glass we're going to be raising the glass many times this week as we
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celebrate but a cheers to lace in Austin Texas and a cheers to Jennifer and Avon
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Lake Ohio a lot of cool a lot of beautiful people on Avon Lake you you know I have a question because I mean we
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get some analytics from the show but i' would really like to know where where like the craziest or like the
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most interactive fans are so on the blog this week how about you go and just put
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your name and and what state you're from Texas Ohio wherever California k and maybe I'll do a special like we did
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the the Ohio True Crime garage shirts maybe we'll do whatever State wins well and we have a tendency to see in from
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the blog itself that we often get the most comments or questions about a case where people are from that area
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where the case took place which is just kind of a natural thing one thing that should have been a natural thing Captain
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is I should have went back and figured out when the first episode that we did an actual trailer for you know cuz we're
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kind of here celebrating these trailers I love that we have the trailers on the show you do such a great job putting
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together the music and you know we've been very lucky to have such a good audience uh such a good hardcore
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audience that stuck with us for so long but I've had some people that are are trying to come up through the ranks of
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the True Crime podcasting and they they want to know like that that you and I they somehow think that you and I are
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holding on to some very well-kept secret which is not really the case at all but
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they want to know what what is it that that you guys do that that has set you apart from some of the others and I
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actually think it's drinking I think it's the trailers uh I've always thought that it it puts a theatrical spin on
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that week's case and again like we said in the uh in the little leadup to today episode each case is is unique and we
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respect that and understand that when we look at each one of these cases and we try to keep that in mind at all times
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when we go into it doing the research and putting together the presentation for each case and we do the same thing
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with the trailer with putting together the trailer each week we don't want tune in hor it was a horrible idea because
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it's like the amount the amount of music that has to been you know to create every
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week for the show is is a lot um it it was maybe if we would have decided hey every big case will do a trailer every
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like big popular case but the other ones we won't it's a lot of uh a lot of music
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being made for the show well and those of you that have been there from the very beginning or maybe you found the
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garage at some point and you went back and you binge listen to all the old episodes to get caught up
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you know that we didn't always do the trailers and in fact back when we did Son of Sam the episode number 21 back
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then it was more common for us to do a single episode for a case yeah um and we didn't always do the beers right out the
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gate either that was something that kind of happened organically I think we had the beer we had the beers we were
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drinking them and what they were from everywhere they were from everywhere but what was funny was I was I would pick a
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six-pack of a beer that was kind of hard to find or at least hard to find at the
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time because you were driving up to see me and I knew it was going to be hot would be sitting in the garage and I'm
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like well you know what I'm going to get a beer that we both can enjoy that not the run-of-the-mill everyday beer it be
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something kind of special so we were always drinking a special beer but I don't think the beer of the week popped
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up until there's a I think you asked me in one of the episodes early in one of the episodes is well what are we
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drinking this week and boom now there's the uh the and boom now there's the beer of the
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week boom genius idea well and also I don't think we ever got drunk in the first few episodes
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because we were just sweating it all out I mean so if somebody goes hey man this first episode you sound like a
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dumbass it's like well I sound like a dumbass on the new episode epodes uh but I'm just a lot clearer because I have a
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better microphone than I had back then that you do there Captain all right a quick shout out to Justus from Hurricane
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West Virginia and a shout to Kimberly from new Woodstock New York and that ladies and gentlemen brings us to number
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eight this is true crime garage and this is the case of the West Memphis [Music]
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3 The West Memphis 3 Damen Eckles Jason baldwi Jesse Miss Kelly the West Memphis
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3 Damen Eckles Jason Baldwin Jesse Mell the West Memphis threee the West Memphis
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[Music] Cree three children missing since last night three young boys murdered and cold
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on it appeared that they had been sexually mutilated is it your opinion that these crimes were motivated by Ault
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belief yes the West Memphis 3 arrested at 2:44 p.m. charged with three PBS of capital murder it was like
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a nuclear bomb going off in the courtroom in a statement given to the police 17-year-old Jesse Miss Kelly
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allegedly confesses to watching two other suspects choke rape and sexually mutilate three West Memphis second
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graders in 1993 the small Arkansas town of West Memphis was robed by the gruesome killing of three 8-year-old
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boys a police investigation brought murder charges against three local teams Damen
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Eckles Jason Baldwin yes he Miss [Music] Kelly is not who do you believe is real
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K Terry Wayne hog I don't know how much clearer I have to make it none of my DNA was
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[Music] there none of the West m three's DNA was there what makes you sure it's what makes you so sure that it's
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car hob pardon me what makes you so sure that it's car hob well his DNA was down there in the
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lace of Michael [Music] Moore David jobe's hair was there what' it do fly there on Harry Potter's
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w it either fell off a Terry hobs or he was there there's no other two ways about it none of the West SM 3's DNA was
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there this is not just Damen Eckles Jason baldwi Jessie Miss Kelly Jesse Miss Kelly the West Memphis
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Cree Damen Eckles Jason Baldwin Jessie Miss Kelly The West Memphis Three this is
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[Music] not the West Memphis 3 old Mark buyers and of course those are the West Memphis 3 cases 40 41 and 42 and we were
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just saying on off the Record the other day we probably could have done about 30
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episodes on West Memphis 3 because it seemed like especially in the early days that that was a case that both of us
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loved to discuss over and over and over yeah I think we were saying maybe we would just uh go back revisit West
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Memphis 3 and cover it for the next two to three four years however long it takes to to figure it out uh no that was
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one of the first first three parters that we did as you pointed out episodes 40 41 and 42 and you're right at the
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time didn't it feel like three devoting three hours maybe a little more to a case was was a lot like yeah this is
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going to be heavy lifting it's going to be difficult to put together it might be
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difficult to fill the space I think our average one parters were already starting to get into the
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hour 15 hour 20 now we also talked a little bit slower back then and our delivery wasn't as
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good and there was a lot more spaces I don't think we spent as much time editing the episodes well you'll have
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people that will say look they did all those documentaries on the west Memphis 3 it should be easy to fill 3 hours or
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three and a half or four whatever it ended up being but well half those documentaries are just Metallica songs
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and with visuals visuals yeah they're not they're not actually talking to Phil the space there's and and to be honest
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with you I think we broke it down in our coverage of it how little actual case information there are in in those three
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in the trilogy The Paradise Lost Trilogy itself uhuh now but we both consider them to be brilliant documentaries I
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mean they're they're fascinating to watch I don't get tired of them yeah but look part one episode 40 hour and 12
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minutes episode two hour and 36 minutes episode three an hour and 51 minutes this is I think at the point where I
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started realizing it's hard uh with you know to to condense it down and you don't want
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the episode to be two hours long that's intimidating yeah it's hard in the streets and it's hard in the garage and
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it's hard in the streets of West Memphis the the uh the thing too is I think we spent the majority of the second episode
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that it took us an hour and 30 because we were going through the timeline in such detail that we were trying to show
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that hey look while we agree that the documentaries are the Paradise Lost uh documentaries are very
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entertaining and whatnot they spent a lot of time building a case against Mark buyers and we spent a lot of time in
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that second episode tearing down that case against Mark buyers because when you look and you review the timeline of
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events that people agree upon that that more than one in the inner Circles of these six families involved and the
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police and the neighborhood and such right you see that there's very little time for Mark buers to have done
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anything uh as you know to to have harmed these boys and of course now all these years later even before we covered
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it we know that there are different circumstances to to look at and truly analyze during that but it was it was
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something that we were happy to put together and again like you said Captain it was a case that we were very
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passionate about back then we were very passionate about it in the 90s it was it
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was one of those ones that we always knew we would cover it but it was about wanting to try to cover it the best way
00:28:20
we knew how at the time and I think we did a fairly good job of that at the time I thought we I thought we nailed it
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I thought it was a home run yeah I mean yeah and it's so part of me wants to applaud ourselves because we took on a
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giant challenge probably before we were ready I mean but let's be honest like we
00:28:39
said we we started a podcast to see if we could do it you know not to start putting them out so then once you get to
00:28:47
a challenge like that you go oh that's pretty good but I remember the following week going yeah
00:28:53
this is pretty good but like we could have spaced them out more more maybe this should have been six parts you know
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um or or or possibly even more and so now when I look at it and if I mean just off the top of my head if you said to me
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you need to cover West Memphis 3 I'd go that's going to take you about 10 to 12 episodes well and that was a a helpful
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learning experience for the two of us because it allowed us to know and understand for future cases that are of
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that size or that popularity that there's that much information out there that three isn't going to be enough it just
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won't be and look I I'm happy to applaud ourselves for what we put together back
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then of course we've gotten better Heck if we've not gotten better from episode 40 to episode 500 then we're really
00:29:48
we're really doing something wrong and really have gone backwards there's a listener out there right now going hey
00:29:54
boys you sound the same to me well hopefully they're still listening because they they love the show and love
00:30:01
the garage two people that I love Lindsay and Atlanta Georgia Nona you don't hear that name very often cheers
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to Nona and Rogers Arkansas which is very fitting to fall there with the West Memphis 3 thank you to everybody for the
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BW Ru n beun yeah these aren't just random names that we're shouting out we're doing the beer fund shout outs a
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little bit differently this week because hey we're partying it up as we go through our countdown here in the garage
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but everybody if you hear your name you helped us fill up the beer fridge for what's going to turn out to be next week
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today [Applause] [Music] all right cheers mates to the people in the back to the people in the front more
00:33:17
importantly cheers to the people being bust in from out of town we love you cheers to Sarah and Dan in Cincinnati
00:33:27
and chrisy who is very mysterious says she's somewhere between Portage and Springport up in Michigan so I hope that
00:33:35
that doesn't mean that she's lost up there Captain I'm somewhere between extremely ugly and extremely
00:33:41
sexy so figure that one out figure that out dial that up dial that one in see what Captain you get
00:33:50
yeah all right what number so those those were our first three right that was our first three yes Counting is not
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our best no we have we're we're drinking the hard stuff this week or maybe it's called the easy stuff by my calculations
00:34:07
captain that would put us around number seven right counted down three already seven to go parties kicking parties
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happening let's go with number [Music] seven [Music] the following is a BTK offender criminal
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profile this profile was written several years after btk's first set of murders in it reads the attached analysis is
00:34:59
only as good as the information that has been provided in addition it may be necessary
00:35:05
to totally change or modify this analysis if new information is developed such as additional victims more forensic
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evidence or more information obtained from research multiple homicides witch all
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Kansas the murders of the offender known to the public only as the BTK are the result of a fantasy acted out a fantasy
00:35:32
where for the first time in his life he is in a position of dominance he is an inadequate type A nobody who through his
00:35:42
crimes has placed himself in a position of importance the BTK Strangler is now a
00:35:48
somebody who is receiving the recognition he feels is a long overdue he is not even very original in
00:35:56
his crimes he has patterned himself after other Killers such as the Son of Sam in
00:36:03
New York City most of the verbiage used by the offender in his letters probably comes
00:36:10
out of recent Publications in detective magazines the subject is alienated lonely and
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withdrawn he would not be expected to have any lasting relationships with others and would lead a solitary
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existence dominating by fantasy and magical thinking his killing is an attempt on
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his part to find affection and acceptance he fears everyone including himself he would not be expected to have
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had any normal relations with women and probably has never had a normal heterosexual relationship with
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one when he is not killing he experiences intense feelings that he is not normal and therefore he kills to
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cope with this disorder and attempt to escape within his own fantasies thus he can be expected to
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kill again and to do so in a compulsive repetition pattern that he has already established his victims can be either
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male or female who are both loved and outgoing his victims will be in a position of vulnerability where he can
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totally render them helpless his victims represent his own feelings of helplessness and
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hopelessness his own life has been disruptive he probably comes from a background where his family was broken
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he was raised by an overbearing mother who was inconsistent in her discipline and his father was absent either because
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of marital Separation or death this would have occurred when he was a youth your subject may have been
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raised by foster parents your subject was an average student in the class classroom however he was more Adept to
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disrupting the class by using profanity and pranks his language and statements make
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us believe that he has some military experience and or is a police buff he probably has had run-ins with
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the police in the past such as assault Andor breaking and entering during these Breakin items
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taken will be items of insignificance these items would have been taken because of a fetish or to
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feed a strong urge to take an article of clothing or an item that he is fond of or the satisfaction of committing a
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crime that will leave little evidence to investigators BTK may have a history of
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veristic activity and he may have an arrest record for these types of offenses he hunts his victims by
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selecting neighborhoods where he can peruse different houses without being detected furthermore his victims will
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live in an area where if need be he can have an easy Escape Route such as a neighborhood park where he can hide to
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elude police his killings are impulsively motivated and without elaborate planning he seeks out targets
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of opportunity such individuals of this type suffer from insomnia and thus find it difficult to Hold Steady
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employment control of himself and of his environment is essential to such a person although he is gaining in
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confidence he is still shy withdrawn and isolated as a counter strategy technique
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your department must not make any statements concerning the Killer's mental condition do not allow the media
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to label him as some kind of psychotic killer if they have already done so your best strategy will be to align yourself
00:39:45
with the Killer and not the psychiatric experts any press releases should clearly state that he is a killer who
00:39:53
must be apprehended and that he is not a psychotic animal this approach May reduce the
00:39:59
Killer's anxiety and reinforce his own guilt feelings this removing any psychiatric
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excuses for his acts and leaving him responsible for his murders extended periods between his murders maybe for
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reasons when he was absent from the area either as a result of military service schooling incarceration or mental
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treatment it is not uncommon for subjects such as yours to frequent police Hangouts and an attempt to
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overhear officers discussing the case such offenders may be at the crime scene observing detectives investigating
00:40:35
the case all of this allows the murderer to fulfill his ego and gain a feeling of
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superiority he may go so far as to telephonically contact your department and provide details specific to his
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crimes your advantage in this case is his very strong self-centered attitude will be his downfall he will provide
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information to a friend or an acquaintance at a local Tavern concerning information he knows about
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the case he may even pretend to be an officer working the case he may carry a fake badge on his person if so he may
00:41:12
use this to gain entry into his victim's homes BTK will continue to kill until he
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is caught or killed [Music] one of my favorite characters in the mind Hunter series BTK because you don't
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really get to hear him talk and you don't know when they're going to start looking for him and he's
00:41:45
so similar to BTK in real life like looks like they could you know um they casted the character very well well on
00:41:57
us as the viewers we know what he's up to so it makes it even a little more intriguing when they you know when they
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break and then they show BTK for a little bit maybe he's dressed up in one of his costumes maybe he's standing
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there in front of a burning Barrel tossing in pictures and drawings that he's made now that that trailer is a
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great trailer that was from May of 2018 when we did a four-part series on the be
00:42:26
TK who is one of your favorite characters on The Mind Hunter show which I'm hoping season 3 sometime I hope
00:42:36
they're working on it right now but is one of my least favorite serial killers I hate the BTK hate Dennis Raider would
00:42:44
love to squash him like a bug that was another one of those guys that taunted police in the public with his letters
00:42:51
and whatnot and contacting the I believe he even used the phone one time to call
00:42:57
in something to the local media or to the police but 2018 May is when we did the four parter
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on BTK Captain I remember 2017 and 2018 early part of 2018 we were getting a lot
00:43:15
of requests to do more expanded uh deep dives into these different types of cases be it solved or
00:43:23
unsolved we were getting a lot of requests for four parters and we were happy miss the four parters we were
00:43:30
happy to oblig seems like we haven't done a four parter in a while but I guess a few months ago what we did the
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unibomber right well not only did I read the trailer there Captain for BTK I provided the screams for you at the end
00:43:45
of it as well that was some of my that's when you see a bug some some of my finest work yeah like George like I
00:43:53
swallowed a fly what do I do what do I do uh but yeah that was uh some of my finest work that I've done here in the
00:43:59
garage with those screams um yeah unibomber uh not too long ago and you're right maybe we need to hear from the
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people the people will tell us what they want the people in the front and the back and we are happy to uh we're happy
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to uh answer all requests we're almost to the halfway point let's get to number [Music]
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six [Music] murder is a broad and fascinating crime people murder for love and for hate some
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murder for money others for want of money some people murder in a cold insane rage and some people murder with
00:45:16
the calculating skill of a butcher some people use guns or knives or their hands some people murder
00:45:24
children exclusively or women and some people plant bombs in hi trffic locals and some mail them to specific
00:45:35
targets New York City's mad bomber a case featured here in the garage was about an angry and yes very much a
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Madman who terrorized New York City for 16 years in the 194s and 1950s with explosives that he planted in
00:45:54
public places by bombs were left in foam booths storage lockers and restrooms in
00:45:59
public buildings including the Grand Central Terminal Pennsylvania station Radio City Music Hall the subway and the
00:46:07
New York Public Library for 16 years a period stretching back to 1940 the largest most formidable police force in
00:46:15
the nation had failed to hustle up any worthy leads by 1956 the bombers handiwork showed a lethal new
00:46:24
proficiency he declared his deadly intent in letters sent to newspaper editors each rambling raging letter was
00:46:32
cryptically signed FP desperation drove the police to pursue a course they never before
00:46:39
considered in the Department's 11-year history NYPD was going to consult with James a brussel a
00:46:48
psychiatrist with the expertise and the workings of the Criminal Mind If physical evidence could not lead the
00:46:54
police to FP maybe emotional insights could since a physical description of the bomber was unattainable New York
00:47:02
police believe maybe Dr brussle could use the evidence to draw a profile of the bomber's inner self an emotional
00:47:10
portrait that would illuminate his background and disorder brussle told them that the bomber was a textbook
00:47:17
paranoid schizophrenic people suffering from this disorder he explained May believe other people are controlling
00:47:23
them or plotting against them they are typically reclusive antisocial and consumed with hatred for their imagined
00:47:31
enemies for all their derangement they're capable of acting quite normal until inevitably some aspect of their
00:47:39
delusions enter into their conversation the paranoic is the world's champion Grudge holder Brussel would
00:47:47
explain we all get mad at other people and organizations sometimes but with most of us the anger evaporates
00:47:54
eventually the Mad bomber's anger does not once he gets the idea that somebody has wronged him or is out to hurt him
00:48:03
the idea stays in his mind the bomber Brussel continued almost surely operated as a lone wolf paranoids quote have
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confidence only in themselves they are overwhelmingly egocentric they distrust everyone an
00:48:21
accomplice would be a potential bungler or double Crosser ultimately Dr brussle was correct and
00:48:29
his assessment of the evidence which was simply the bombers actions words and intent this specifically helped NYPD
00:48:38
identify locate and apprehend a domestic terrorist that eluded them for 16 years
00:48:45
the mad bomber later identified as George mateski was angry and resentful about events surrounding a workplace
00:48:52
injury he suffered years earlier brussell called his approach Reverse Psychology today we call it criminal
00:49:01
profiling decades later in 1980 after four attacks the FBI created the unib bomb task
00:49:09
force during the 80s they failed to identify the unibomber and then he went dormant the FED suspected the terrorist
00:49:17
could be dead but then the attack started up again and in 1993 things at the task force were ramping up and a new
00:49:26
wave of Agents with differing array of expertise were brought in to work the case it's wouldbe assigned task force
00:49:34
agents all received a rather large memo titled major case number 75- unabomb for
00:49:42
well over a decade the FBI and other law enforcement agencies around the US investigated the case they dubbed
00:49:50
unabomb by the mid90s the perpetrator was the most Wanted serial killer in the United States and he was one that none
00:49:58
of his victims had ever laid eyes on an individual so mysterious and Elusive that he was known only by the case code
00:50:06
name the FBI had given him unibomber since his early bombings were directed at universities and
00:50:14
Airlines unlike the one big crude blast of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy mcve and
00:50:19
his cohorts the uni bombers attacks were more like that of the Mad bombers but unfortunately more destructive and
00:50:28
deadly these bombings were spaced apart this perpetrator could wait and act over
00:50:34
time he was more specifically directed he was clever he was diabolical and his motive was wrapped in layers of
00:50:45
mystery this is true crime garage and this is the case of the unibomber [Music] you like Robert Stack have a nice
00:51:03
Cadence to those trailers and you know what one thing we do that's just polite you'll notice that we often say in a
00:51:11
trailer this is true crime garage that way if you ended up here by accident and you were looking for a different show we
00:51:17
let you know so you don't have to wait till the end to find out yeah I like when people go hey uh I normally agree
00:51:25
with you you guys but this last episode we were we don't seem to be on the same page right and they say uh you
00:51:34
know whatever case it is and then I look it up and I go we we didn't cover that case wrong show and then then they go oh
00:51:42
my God I'm so embarrassed but we're also polite too because when we fart we say excuse me
00:51:49
well and some people you know maybe a lot of people listen at work or at the gym or during their commute
00:51:55
and you know we're we're one of the better flavors on the Block but maybe bunch of psychopaths just poing iron
00:52:03
listening to murder people need more than one flavor and so they tune into different shows that they like and they
00:52:09
get jumbled up sometimes and go you know what you guys really really laid a stinker this week and we're like we
00:52:18
don't we don't know what case you're talking about we didn't cover that one please direct that stinker elsewhere
00:52:23
well true crime garage what flavor are we the drunken flavor all right so tomorrow we we go to the top five oh
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prepare yourselves for the top five the one we just heard unibomber episode 482 as the captain pointed out earlier in
00:52:43
this episode we did a four parter on Ted kazinski the unibomber it the look the world would have been a better place had
00:52:50
that guy just accidentally blown himself up during the constructions of those bombs in his little little Shack that he
00:52:57
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