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[Music] most of this is from our friends over at the charlieproject.org bryce david lispisa was last seen in
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castelia california on august 30th 2013. he was attending sierra college in northern california and was driving home
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to visit his family in laguna niguel california at the time of his disappearance
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he called his mother at 2 am saying he was too tired to drive was going to stop his car and sleep
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he said he'd call her when he woke up priceless pisa's beige 2003 toyota highlander
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was found abandoned in a ravine off of lake hughes road near castaic lake a few hours later
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lying on its side the rear window smashed his cellular phone wallet laptop computer
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and other belongings were still inside the vehicle but there was no sign of him an extensive search of the area turned
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up no clues priceless pisa is a caucasian male with red hair and green eyes he has a tattoo of a taurus bullhead
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and his birthday in roman numerals on his upper left arm his ears are pierced bryce is 5 feet 11 inches tall
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and was approximately 170 pounds he was last seen wearing a blue and white checkered shirt
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white cargo shorts and size 12 red and white nike tennis shoes [Music] bryce's loved ones
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stated he was unfamiliar with the area he disappeared from they also say bryce didn't hitchhike and
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did not enjoy outdoor pursuits he was 19 years of age at the time of his disappearance
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he's never been heard from since today bryce would be 28 years old he's considered to be missing and
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endangered his case remains unsolved this is true crime garage bryce david lispisa was born april 30th
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1994 in springfield illinois his parents are michael and karen lispisa bryce is described as bright easygoing
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and extremely charismatic when he was little he went to kingsley elementary and then on to lincoln junior high
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then in high school bryce was a good student getting good grades was not difficult for him
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he was quite the talented artist as well this was well known he was into and was
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very talented at painting and had an eye for photography high school friends described bryce as happy and a funny guy
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who would light up a room when he walked in his talents were not limited to the art
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world in high school bryce was an athlete as well playing baseball and football for the napierville
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central high redhawks he graduated from naperville central high in 2012. soon after bryce graduated from high
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school his parents retired from their jobs and they moved they moved from illinois down to laguna
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niguel which is in orange county california so bryce and his parents michael and karen lispisa
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they make this big move right this is not just moving far away after high school after retiring this is
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moving 2 000 miles away take me down to the paradise city after the move to another state bryce
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figures out his plans for college he went off to sierra college in rockland california now this is another
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long distance move for bryce for the school year this is a lot of things happening very
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quickly right he graduates high school then he moves to another state to california and then
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once he's in california california one of the biggest states in our greatest of nations he moves a
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considerable distance away from his parents to go to school so this is another long distance move
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for bryce so he can attend school sierra college is about a seven hour drive away from
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his parents place laguna niguel is in southern california south of l.a then 465 miles way up north
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sierra college is north of sacramento so you can kind of picture where everything is there
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at sierra college bryce was majoring in graphic and industrial design with his gift as an artist he had already had an
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impressive portfolio at this young age now this week's case as you heard in the trailer
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is a missing person's case priceless pisa goes missing on august 30th 2013. last week made it nine years
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since his incredibly mysterious disappearance and for those of you that have not heard
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about this case i think you will agree with us that events leading up to his disappearance
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are just that incredibly mysterious and i'm not trying to be funny about this but i i think
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everybody that goes missing or somebody that's murdered they all light up the room i've never met somebody that i
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actually thought lit up the room and to get a better picture of these individuals would be nice if if it was
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like mandatory well give us three negative things about this individual so when i go missing
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or i get murdered i want you to cover the case and then i want you to team up with the ladies from morbid and cover it
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again and and i'll give you a list of three negative things i'm sure you can come up with them on your own
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but uh i'll put some three negative things so we get a better picture of who these individuals actually were or
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squash all inspiration to actually find the individual so after he completes high school
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he's going to go off to college right normal stuff here so far except for to me i think the the long distance moving
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two times in a row a little abnormal yeah but when you're 18 you think you're an
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adult and now when you look back on it it's like man i was so young at 18. so bryce
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goes missing in the second half of 2013. he's done with high school in 2012. so he gets in a full year at college
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completing his freshman year before his disappearance now during that freshman year bryce
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regardless of not being from the area really manages to fit in almost immediately
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and he made plenty of new friends and adjusted to california with no problems by all reports
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at school he was very much the typical teenager he was eager to learn freshman year he had average grades and
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as many do he dabbled with a little marijuana and alcohol per his friends the first year in college went real easy
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for him according to his parents now as it is with most missing persons cases and so it is true with bryce's
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case as well the timeline is so very important to these cases so we will spend the majority of the
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time dissecting that timeline and the known events of that timeline before we dive into that
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timeline there's a couple things that we probably should go over first yes before
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we get into the timeline i think we need to cover a couple of things and introduce some of the important people
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that we will find in our timeline first we have sean dixon sean is bryce's best friend and roommate at the time of
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his disappearance also during bryce's freshman year he started dating another student
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her name is kim sly now kim sly is actually a student at another college because
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kim lives about 90 miles north from bryce's apartment so let's hone in on the distance between
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these things here real quick right right if we go to the southern the very southern part of the state of
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california that's where we're going to find bryce's parents that's where they lived that's where they moved to with
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bryce after retirement after bryce finished high school bryce decides to go to community college
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sierra college which is roughly a seven to eight hour drive north of his parents place still in the great
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state of california yeah it's a community college but it's just not in his community that's right he's starting
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his own community and then north of him 90 miles north of him is where his girlfriend kim sly lives and i'm just
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guessing that they met through the internet or something and that's why we see a lot more long-term
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distant relationships probably that book with all the faces on it bryce's vehicle at the time of his
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disappearance was a 2003 beige toyota highlander which is an suv type vehicle this was given to him from his parents
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for him to use i i don't know if it was officially signed over to him it doesn't sound like
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it was it sounds like it was still in his parents name yeah so i don't know if it was technically his or if he was
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allowed to use it for his time in college now bryce goes missing rather quickly into the start of what was to be
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his sophomore year at college bryce came home for the summer break leading up to that point
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he was staying at his parents house for the summer break now it's reported that he was very close
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to his parents especially his mother and all reports state that bryce seemed happy
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to be spending the summer with them well it seemed like they were helping them out with college but also what great
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parents to go hey we're gonna help you have a vehicle as well he spent part of that summer break taking an english
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class at a local college so local to where his parents were living right to get a jump start on his credits needed
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for his degree do you know if he had a summertime job that's interesting i do not know if he
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had a summertime job it seems like he spent that summer not just living with his parents but
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attending this english class that was local and hanging out with a lot of his local
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friends as one would do when you come home and you hope that the others come home for the summer break as well well
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it seemed like half my college friends would have maybe just summertime jobs no jobs during the school year so they
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could save up a bunch of money to have some run money during the school year and some
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of my friends were really lucky because their parents were like look your job is
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school so if bryce came home and he was going to spend the summer with his parents
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maybe they said to him hey as long as you're taking one class then that's still your job and you don't need to get
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a job well and not that this will answer your question at all captain but it does
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fill in some of the blanks so as far as bryce goes the vehicle he's driving provided by his
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parents his car insurance for that vehicle provided by mom and dad his cell phone
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provided by mom and dad right so these things are things that we know i didn't find any mention of a summertime job or
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even a job that he had worked his freshman year seems like i'm leaning towards the idea that they're they're
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the type of parents that are saying college is your job come back for the summer i mean that's look that's still
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a very productive student i'm going to come home for the summer i'm not going to take a break
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a complete break i'm going to sign up for another class well and here we start to see the interesting
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parts and pieces to the story by all accounts he's a great student getting good grades no problem freshman
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year pretty easy he's fitting in he's making friends getting decent grades the friends of course say hey he's partying
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a little bit smoking a little weed drinking a little bit typical college behavior that's not abnormal at all
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right it's probably more abnormal not to be doing those things it's when school starts up again that we're going to see
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the these stories and the conflicting opinions of bryce and what he was up to and his behaviors
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changed drastically so the fall semester for that year for 2013 started on august 27 2013
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but by this point bryce has actually been on campus for a period of time reports generally say
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that bryce was back at school approximately two weeks before classes started which
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makes a lot of sense when we start to get into some of these other items and what i mean by other items is it's
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reports from his friends of of bryce's behaviors and actions leading up to his disappearance right
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so the classes began at sierra college on tuesday august 27 2013 on that day bryce attended his classes
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as scheduled bryce takes a speech class and a web design class that day now he calls his
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mother karen that evening and tells her how much he enjoyed the two classes his mom said that he was pretty upbeat
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on the phone and he seemed excited about the new school year he seemed excited about his classes and the new semester
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and he's only taken those classes or it's just those are just the classes that were on
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that day that's the classes he took on that tuesday and he's reporting back to mom hey school started i'm kind of
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digging these new classes one both those classes are actually somewhat fun classes unless you really hate
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speaking in public then speech class 101 is not for you sign me up for the bowling class
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bullying and beer bryce's mother would later say that on the phone with her son that evening bryce sounded
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completely normal and he did not say or sound like there was anything for a mother to be concerned about yeah
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of course she's not thinking these things at the time these are questions she's going to be asked later and in
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fact unfortunately she's going to be asked these questions just days later this however was not the opinion shared
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by bryce's friends that are hanging out with him at school his friends that see him daily remember
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he's been there for a period of time before these classes started they all say that he had not been acting
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like himself since he got back two weeks ago they say as soon as he got back they
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noticed some kind of change in bryce he wasn't the bryce from last year they say
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he started drinking a lot now bryce as we already mentioned was a social drinker his freshman year drinking
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occasionally with friends or at parties in the past but the friends say that they noticed a significant increase in
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the amount of hard liquor consumption on bryce's part so not not beer right they specifically say he was drinking
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hard liquor and drinking a lot of hard liquor now we should hone in on that just for a
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second here before we move off of it because we got a lot of stuff to get to but
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we need to keep in mind bryce is 19 at this point in our timeline and i don't know about the rest of the world
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i can only speak to my own personal experiences i like to drink when i was 18 19. i
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think a lot of teenagers do that's when they kind of start drinking but and some
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would say that you like drinking more than most my tolerance level was not very high
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hard liquor was was a tough thing for the colonel at 1819 right and i'm only pointing that out because
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some people that don't drink don't understand the significant difference between
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liquor and beer and when and how it can affect people well i have a lot of friends that can't
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drink liquor because they they get angry or they become like violent or they have had violent
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episodes or they get so depressed afterwards because it just hits you in such a different way
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but let's i want to be clear this behavior is just when he gets back from school
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his parents and his friends don't say anything about this behavior when he was back living
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with his parents there's no mention of that when he's living with his parents that summer
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break now again we don't know because you kind of pointed out we get this very rosy picture of
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bryce and some of that's coming from his parents and that could be 100 true or if he is doing these things maybe it
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goes unnoticed when he's staying with his parents that summer break well yeah and that to be fair to them there was a
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ton of stuff that i was doing that my parents weren't aware of well and what's interesting here though
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to me is that the friends the people that know him at the sierra college campus area
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they are saying they notice this wasn't normal this wasn't the bryce from last year right he wasn't consuming alcohol
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like this and again i don't think that i can stress it enough that i think there's a
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significant difference between beer and liquor here especially at this age of 19. well and i completely agree
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with you and and this might be a dumb question but his relationship's fine when he gets back to school right yep
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there's not a reason that he's going to be drinking heavily and and and drinking
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liquor instead of beer and this doesn't seem to be and i know we're kind of sticking on this point for
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maybe a little longer than people would like what's our show we'll do what we want but to me this is like the the
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kickoff point of where everything starts to go off the rails right this is the investigation
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right here the timeline investigation and it looks to me he gets back to school for two weeks leading up to
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school we're not this is not described as like oh the whole campus was just party crazy we
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were partying every night everybody was happy to be back we're all a year older that's not the story that we're getting
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the story is that it's kind of a one-man party he's partying by himself yeah at times he's hanging out with a lot of
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friends yes but he's also doing a lot of this consumption on a very small level not a party level
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more of a by himself or one-on-one with another friend he was lighting up the room by himself
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his friends say that they were both confused and concerned about the change in bryce's behavior but when checking on
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their friend asking him how he is bryce simply tells them that he is fined and that there is nothing going on with him
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everything is normal [Music] [Music] all right we are back thanks for joining us cheers everybody
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cheers to you colonel uh two guys that have been dimming the rooms for years well and normally i will give a mildly
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excited tall cans in the air to everybody out there but given the part in the place in the story
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and what we're talking about this week i feel necessary i feel that it's necessary to say please drink
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responsibly yes so now of course life is really a series of peaks and valleys for most of us
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but pay close attention to this timeline because the events leading up to bryce's
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disappearance i think are va i think are rather strange and we can see that to be true with those statements we
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just went through on one hand we have mom who has a close relationship with her son who says everything was fine and
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normal and then his friends say the exact opposite that bryce's behavior gave them great concern and his alcohol
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consumption was concerning to them as well bryce's behaviors and actions to me captain seem erratic already
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i just said peaks and valleys i couldn't help but notice how quickly we go from high points
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and everything is going great to incredibly low and pay attention to this timeline so on day two at sierra college
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this is now wednesday august 28 2013. bryce's friends say that they continue to notice that bryce is not quite
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himself and he according to those at school who know him best brice is acting strange and almost
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totally out of character by this point in the timeline things are already ramping up toward defcon 1. most severe
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level of high alert or as we say in the garage captain threat level midnight this is because this is roughly when
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it becomes known that bryce has apparently been up for approximately two to three days straight at this point
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nobody could narrow that down any better than two to three days but what we can gain
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from that and gather from that is that he's been up for a significant period of time by this wednesday
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it's also revealed at this point and some of these friends know this because i think they are doing some of these
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activities with bryce but bryce was using vivance which is a drug it's a prescription drug
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but he's using it recreationally the thought is that he's using it to try to stay awake and on top of
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ingesting this vivance he's also consuming large quantities of hard liquor this is when bryce's roommate sean
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calls bryce's mother karen he's so concerned about his friend and his roommate that
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he calls bryce's mother who is seven hours away well that's a big deal because if you're gonna call
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it's one thing to tell your buddies hey bryce is acting a little strange just another thing to go
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i gotta get his mother's number his father's number and say hey there's something wrong with bryce
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but then on the other side of things the mom's going what the hell i just talked to him
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yesterday and he seemed to be all excited about school yeah this is again where the two paths start to go
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very different directions in my opinion and you just hit the nail on the head there my friend
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can you imagine the level of concern leading up to this before calling his mother like there's discussions between
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friend to friend discussions already like right this dude's acting weird he hasn't slept in days
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he's drunk all the time he's looking did you see what he's drinking these pills he's taking but again the the liquor
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to me yeah it's strange but people do it and people dab and maybe he's like hey this year i'm going to be a liquor guy
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i'm not going to be the beer guy maybe he doesn't like beer but now you're mixing the hard liquor with
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prescription medication and some of these pills that they have designed to keep you up and and have you focus and
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you know like adderall and all that stuff you might as well be snorting cocaine and drinking hard liquor
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because that's the effect it has on your body well and i think that we should point out too
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look i have very i don't know anything about vivants other than what i found on the internet
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and but to me that shows me the strength of this type of drug when we talk about somebody who's been
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up for days and consuming large quantities of alcohol those two things should make you drowsy
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separately but together should make you incredibly drowsy should make you fall asleep but he's not falling asleep
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probably because of this vivance well i can say from personal experience i've been on prescription medication
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before that once i had a drink and not not so much beer but once i had like a shot of something
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and i've never done crack i've never done heroin i've never all i could explain to people is once i
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had that one shot all i could think about was having that next shot and that made no sense to me but i was also
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on you know on this prescription pill and it was almost like they were feeding each other like the prescription pill
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once i took that drink made me want to just keep drinking just keep going so bryce's roommate sean calls his mother
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bryce's mother karen because he's concerned about bryce sean calls his mom karen he's telling her of all the
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troubling changes in behavior with her son tells her that bryce has been up for two
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to three days that he's drinking and i'm a little i question this in in our timeline a little bit because it's
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reported in some outlets that that karen was made aware of the vivance drug at this time
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but then there's other reports that say that she was not aware of vivants and not made
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aware by his friends i i don't know which which side of the fence to fall on here captain in the
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grand scheme of things it's not it may not be i don't think it's that big of a deal because also at that time period
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maybe his friends didn't know exactly what he was taking and because there's not a doctor
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well a medical doctor anyway here in the garage a quick internet search tells us
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that vyvanse is a amphetamine based narcotic very potent stimulant that the effect is similar to
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methamphetamine popular it's a popular recreational drug for college students it provides an
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energy boost that allows the user to stay up for hours without sleep this is normally used to treat adhd
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which brice did not have or was not diagnosed with also known also the known side effects
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of vivants include depression and mania okay so now at this point mom's been made aware from shawn
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roommate that something's going on with her son and she's on the phone with bryce
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at this point bryce tells his mother that he is going to break up with his girlfriend kim
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well this is very surprising to mom because she thought i imagine based off of what she's
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witnessed and what bryce has told her that he seemed to be very much in love with his girlfriend kim but you know he
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went back to school he had two weeks to think about things get his life in order before he started
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sophomore year and then maybe decided hey this year i want to focus on school and i don't want i just you know i care
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about her but that but maybe she's a distraction as far as his education is concerned
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90 miles away is difficult too especially at that age i would guess yeah and i've had moments and i think
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we've all have had moments in time especially the situation he's in because they're not playing boyfriend
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and girlfriend every day because she lives so far away so maybe his thought is like hey instead of this being
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something that preoccupies my time because this this drug that he's taking to me
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is not a drug that he's just taking to um just have a good time it seems almost like when when some of these students
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take adderall and and and drugs like that prescription medicine like that they're they're almost doing it for a
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purpose well i think he was doing he may have been doing it for a good time it's a
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little difficult to to figure out first off he's not very long into the school year so i don't he doesn't seem to be
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cramming for anything leading into day two of of classes starting that fall semester but there are reports and i
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don't know what friend this was or which friends these were but there are reports that he was taking
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this vivance with other individuals who were staying up all night drinking and playing video games and hanging out
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well and like you said this drug has two side effects well it has multiple side effects but
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you're either going to go the depression route or you're going to go the manic route
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to me it seems like it's the manic route well and all these things can this this
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is the thing that scares me about pills and about hard drugs or anything like that whether
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you're getting them prescribed to you or off of the streets they all affect everybody
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differently and can affect everybody differently and some people quite differently
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now let's consider he's consuming large amounts of alcohol not sleeping as well that's a recipe for disaster i think for
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possibly anybody out there this is very weird to me here captain because we're going to have karen
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bryce's mother who later will say yes i was concerned when sean called me and said that my son is
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behaving weird that he's drinking a lot but when i spoke to him on the phone even though he tells me he's breaking up
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with his girlfriend which was a surprise to me at the time he sounded very normal
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he sounded completely normal on the phone that's her words so maybe bryce is able to fake it
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long enough to convince mom that he's okay or maybe she just wasn't picking up what
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was actually going on or maybe he's calling her at a time where he's just got drunk during that time period right
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he's on the phone with her because shawn called karen at this point so i yeah i don't we all know exactly what's going
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on she says he sounds normal before they get off the phone now we are still on august 28 2013.
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we do have a time frame for this next event this takes place between 1 and 2 p.m
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this is when bryce so now he's he's not around sean who had already called his mother
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bryce text his best friend roommate sean and the text says something to this effect because i've seen several
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different versions of this but the most consistent version is as follows bryce deshawn says i love you bro
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seriously you are the best person i've ever met you saved my soul sean texts back a few minutes later
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saying i love you too man you have an amazing life full of love and blessings don't waste
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that yeah it's almost like you're texting your best friend to say hey thank you for calling my mom you know
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thanks for stepping in thanks for doing the right thing thanks for being my friend yeah a true friend because
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you know somebody that's just your casual friend's not gonna take the time to call your mother
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because that that could sever a relationship you're you're exactly right and i was when i first read that text
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i thought is is this like you know because there's a lot of there can be precursors to somebody doing something
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drastic in their life there could be things that that are are signs and hints along the way that maybe something's not
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right with somebody and one of those signs is is saying goodbye whether they're doing it consciously or
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subconsciously they're saying goodbye to the people that mean the most to them and when i first read this text that's
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where my mind went it's like he's saying goodbye to his buddy but you're absolutely right captain given
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the timeline that's why the timeline's so important given the timeline this takes place shortly after the call where
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bryce is forced to talk to his mother she's made aware that things are weird with bryce
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this is just a good friend reaching out to a good friend saying we're okay you didn't piss me off by calling my mom
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you helped me out you're looking you're looking out for me we're good friends that's
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so typical of captain i'm gonna agree with myself and disagree because i also feel like your gut feeling
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shouldn't go it's not you know not valid like that should be in the in your back
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pocket so rarely i agree with you that when i do you immediately change no no something must be wrong but but
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you're right though too on both levels because of the response right that sean gives back to bryce i love you too man
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you have an amazing life full of full of love and blessings don't waste that yeah
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but to me that's somebody that is concerned yes about suicide or concerned about somebody he's probably meaning
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don't waste it because you're drinking and taking these prescription pills but you know it also kind of sounds like
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somebody that's like don't don't do something stupid don't do something dumb and or
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don't continue this recklessness that you've been carrying on with the past few days right of course after the fact
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a lot of people are going to say that bryce is exhibiting signs of suicidal tendencies
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and they're basing this off of what is actual fact here later we learn that on the same day
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bryce gives away some of his more expensive personal belongings he gives them to his
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best friend and roommate sean he gives away his xbox and diamond earrings remember we said in the trailer
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that bryce had pierced ears so he's giving away two very expensive items and also with the xbox it's been
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reported that he was an avid player he was he he actively played video games a lot of the time well there's an
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addiction there as well i mean the dopamine that you get from playing video games but this doesn't have to be a
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suicidal thing here i know that it's reported this way it is common for individuals to give things away leading
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up to doing something like that if they're aware that they're going to do it but it also could
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it it also could mean something else like i look at this situation i think bryce is getting ready to
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get out of dodge that he's that he's getting ready to go maybe maybe i don't want to be on campus anymore maybe i
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maybe i need to get out of this place and go back home to mom and dad okay see i took this in a whole different way
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because like you said it wasn't like he just sitting around getting drunk off liquor and staring at
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the walls and taking these prescription pills this is all coinciding with staying up
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and playing video games i almost feel like this was like a peace offering to his roommate to say hey here's my xbox
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like not like i'm giving it to you forever but like here's my xbox you're going to control this thing so it
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doesn't control my life and i'm going to get my i'm going to get my act back together that's the way i took it
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it you know kind of weird that it gives them but the earrings the earrings yeah but again at this he's been up for a few
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days he's probably been a little manic so at that point you're just like whatever man yeah i'll take these
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again it's like giving something to your brother it stays in your house you didn't really lose the item right
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yeah i mean it's not like he went and and sold these items well and he gave it to sean and we know sean called his
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mother karen earlier and i don't know if he gave these items to sean before the call or after the
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call there's no timing on this had he given him to somebody else or had we not known this fact that sean was so
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concerned about his buddy that he called bryce's mom my thought would go to oh he's he's
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taking pills he's drinking a lot he gave away the earrings in the xbox and trade
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for more pills and alcohol or some type of drug but sean who's who's obviously concerned
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about his friend receives these things i get it with the xbox get me off of this
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thing i need to focus on school or i need to focus on this that or the other thing the earrings
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i don't know that that's taking away anything from his focus there to me looking up back at it now nine years
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later it looks to me like this is some kind of like you said either peace offering or
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it is a sign that he is going to be doing something now what that something is you could speculate
00:41:58
five or six different things here but what we do know is that at some point later that day bryce decides to go to
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his girlfriend's house where he gave her an xbox and a set of earrings as well right he's just giving everything away
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he's like oprah well in fact that's not what happens it's it's a different type of trip now
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keep in mind he's driving 90 minutes north 90 miles approximately north of where he
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is so even further away from mom and dad's house at this point and while he's there
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this is at his girlfriend kim's apartment he says that he's breaking up with her
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now a lot of the reports state that he had texted her earlier that day that there was a text exchange where he had
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already broke up with her and she too said the same thing that bryce's mom would later say that she was completely
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surprised she she had no clue what what or why he would break up with her in fact in the text
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exchange he says something like well you you would be better off without me which
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would indicate that yes we are breaking up so she's so surprised that she has to
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text him back and say what does this mean are you breaking up with me right so this text exchange happens at some
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point this day and then later he is at her apartment and while he's there at the apartment he tells kim
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look we're still breaking up and he's not giving any real reasons why he wants to break up or why it's so
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sudden everything was again normal as far as kim was concerned leading up to this day
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i have a lot of issues with this okay for one no kid that lights up the room breaks up
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with his girlfriend through text message that's not the way you do it that's not
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the proper way you do it especially you've been in a relationship for such a long time
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okay so you started that conversation you broke up on on text and so you go visit her well now
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he's doing the right thing but i don't think it's so strange that he's going that he's not giving any explanation
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because i've actually heard some good advice from from therapists and from mentors and
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other people that say when you're ending a relationship you don't need to give them reasons why
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because people will sit there and argue those reasons and because and then you see what i'm saying it's like well
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because we don't see each other enough okay now we're now we're arguing this reason
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but this this kid has already come to this conclusion that it's time for him to move on i just
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think at this point i see a pattern here of decision making that does not seem to be
00:44:47
well thought out well planned not mapped out at all i feel like that's why i said his
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his behaviors to me and his actions to me seem very erratic very impulsive this appears to me to be a dude that
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thinks he needs to make some kind of change but does not understand what that change needs to be well again this is
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back to the prescription pills you're either going to be depressed or you're going to have some manic stage and it
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seems like he's in some kind of manic stage kim would later say that bryce got obviously frustrated with her for
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questioning him and why that he would be breaking up with her she tells him look she's confused it she
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doesn't know why he would be breaking up with her he's not giving her any any reasons kim's words were that bryce
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was acting erratic and and then at some point says to her that he wants to leave her apartment
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kim takes bryce's car keys away and begs him to get some sleep before he leaves so when this is all going down bryce
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then calls his mother and tells her about the situation that's going on on the phone with bryce karen his mother
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offers to fly in the next morning to see bryce he tells her not to go to the trouble he wants to collect
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his thoughts he says and he says that he has a lot to talk to his mother about she wants to fly in the next day because
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this is the second person to have concerns about bryce she's now been made aware
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about these concerns from his roommate sean and his girlfriend or ex-girlfriend however you want to look at it kim
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so now she's concerned now at some point on this conversation this phone conversation karen bryce's mother
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asked to speak with kim and she tells her go ahead and give bryce his keys back which kim does
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karen said that bryce sounded fine to drive and that's why she told kim to give the keys back at 11 30 p.m
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that night bryce left kim's apartment well here's the difficult thing here is he can
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go back to his dorm which is about 90 miles away or he could try to trek home which is
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at this point eight and a half nine hours away roughly i mean that is that is a tough drive he's and it's been
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reported that he's not slept in days or even if it's just slept minimal that's it's a rough drive
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so if all of these times are correct he leaves kim's apartment around 11 30 p.m that night and then
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now we are into the wee hours of august 29th where at approximately 1 a.m bryce calls
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his mother again and she assumed that he would be calling from his apartment which makes complete
00:47:54
sense because that would be about the time it would take for him to get back to his apartment his campus apartment
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phone records later showed that he called from a location that was about an hour's drive south of rocklin
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so he was not calling from his apartment whatever they discussed on the phone did not include her knowing his location
00:48:18
at the time of the call right because she makes the assumption that he's calling from his apartment well to be
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clear about this this puts him about 100 or so miles away from his girlfriend's apartment yeah and the
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troubling thing here is they get off the phone and from my understanding captain she karen his
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mother still believes that bryce is at his apartment when that phone call takes place but the troubling thing here is
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the next morning between 9 a.m and 11 a.m karen his mother finds out that the toyota highlander that bryce was driving
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needed roadside assistance [Music] so much more to get to in this case please join us back here in the garage
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tomorrow and make sure you tell a friend and until then be good be kind and don't litter
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