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[Music] [Music] [Applause] all right Captain last episode we were starting to get into some of the
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physical evidence collected against Scott anding these cases against him regarding these missing
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persons one of the items we have yet to hit on is it involves his phone records so this reveals to law enforcement that
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Scott the last person he spoke to on the evening of February 17 2003 was missing
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person Jennifer Markham then his phone went offline until February 20th Scott maintained that he had gone to the
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mountains for several days and turned his cell phone off this is the same story that he kind of gave regarding
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Casey but detectives noted that Jennifer's phone was also inactive for the same 3-day period of time after that
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there were calls made from Jennifer's phone this to Scott and to several other people this is before it went offline
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permanently now to the investigators it seemed obvious that Scott was using Jennifer's phone for the
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purpose of misdirecting law enforcement in an attempt to make it appear as if she was still alive for some period of
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time after she went missing but we still have other crimes other murders to discuss we have
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evidence in the Leanne Emery disappearance Leanne's car was found abandoned with all of her stuff in it in Eastern
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Utah but Leanne was nowhere to be found receipts for credit card charges to her card made in California bore a signature
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that was not her handwriting detectives spoke to the unnamed inmate who knew Scott in prison the one who gave them
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the information about how Casey had been killed this inmate told them that Scott
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said that he killed Leanne while they were hiking in Bryson Canyon in eastern Australia Scott said that he had
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stripped her nude or had her strip nude kneel down and he shot her in the head execution style now Captain you know
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how this POS Scott operates right he has an answer for everything Scott told detectives that he did not kill Leanne
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he said that members of a drug gang were the ones that had executed her and he was only a witness but he didn't could
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go to law enforcement he didn't get involved and even though he's already involved with the FBI he doesn't tell
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them I witnessed a murder he he only has to make up the story when confronted with something
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that he told somebody else right now remember the terrible this this Ang ERS and saddens
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me like you wouldn't believe remember the terrible accident on the ranch I'm talking about the
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accident when Scott's 10-year-old son Justin when a 200 lb metal great quote fell on him right you can see photos of
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this little boy in the hospital on Dat line and it's it's pretty horrible so in a stroke of bad luck for Scott but truly
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a blessing after 2 weeks in a coma his son woke up and was able to tell what he remembered he says his father told him
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to turn around and dig a hole near this great and then all of a sudden the great
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fell on him then he remembered being in the Jeep remember Scott is driving the son to the hospital he remembers being
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in the Jeep and he says on the way to the hospital my dad Scott he's pushing me by the face pushing me out of the
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vehicle by the face yeah I mean this is just when you said it the first time oh here's this horrible accident then
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Scott's going to drive his son to the hospital and on the way the kid falls out of the car you go something's not
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right here yeah you can't it's what a coincidence that you would have two near-death accidents back to back that
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day I can understand that sometimes this stuff happens in a state of a panic maybe you're rushing trying to get him
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to the hospital but with this guy not with this guy they're not these types of coincidence these two failed attempts of
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murder so the Baler County Prosecutors Boulder [ __ ] thank you Unfortunately they did not feel that they had enough
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to actually Charge Scott with with what looks very much like an attempted murder
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of his son this is in part because doctors indicated that his head injuries were so
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severe they would not consider him to be a reliable Witness that is so [ __ ] though these might not be reliable
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memories that he has of course we're no idiots and we can see all this other stuff together that that that's probably
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very likely what happened and I know the prosecutors felt the same way and were very saddened that they could not bring
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this type of charge against this man we should also point out and it's no coincidence that at the time of this
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accident there was a $60,000 life insurance policy on the little boy was Scott listed as the sole
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beneficiary yeah okay but hear me out why don't you just want to roll the dice I'm
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listening roll the dice right we have we have two like I said two attempts of murdering this 10-year-old boy mhm and
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yes maybe his memory is not maybe he's not going to be um maybe he's not going to be received
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as super credible but once you stack on the other piece of evidence that we have a motive
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the motive being a $60,000 payout for the death of this child roll the dice cuz what you what do you have
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to lose well couple of things and we talked about this a few weeks ago you do run the risk of the double jeopardy
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charge where where maybe at some point you actually do believe that you have the ER evidence to charge and convict
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him and if you try him now and you can't successfully convict him you can't try him again later what I guarantee you
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this is what my gut tells me and I would bet this man's beef Farm on it not my own Farm because this guy's a liar but
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uh I bet you what happened Captain is behind closed doors they probably did take a chance because like you said what
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do you have to lose this is what they probably took a chance on let's Tell Scott that we know exactly what the hell
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he was doing and see if it scares him enough that he's willing to plea to it or to a lesser charge right cuz you know
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you get this man in a room and you go look dude your son told us that you were the
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one that told him to get in that hole and then the Great Falls on him your son told us you were driving him to the
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hospital and he remembers you pushing him by the face out of the moving vehicle and this almost kills him and we
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also found a paper trail that you stood to gain $60,000 should that little boy die
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you're hoping you can scare him into a plea bargain at that chance and I bet you they took that chance right and
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Scott is just it wasn't going to to fall for it now putting all of that together
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makes it also seem even much more ridiculous that Uncle Terry magically disappeared that he
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Struck it big hitting the lottery and then running off to Mexico with some mysterious woman that no one had ever
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met named Ginger right no evidence that that he even won the lottery or that he's still in existence right
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so this is one part of the story that we left out last week this goes down nearly
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a year after Uncle Terry Kimble disappeared so Scott's father his name is Virgil Kimble
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received an email at his Idaho home from his brother Uncle Terry using the email
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address Terry Kimble yahoo.com I'm sorry terryl Kimble yahoo.com according to an affidavit
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later written by FBI agent grusing in the email Terry claimed to be living in an old part of Mexico with a
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woman named Ginger and added that Ginger liked living there and said that she was never going
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to return to the United States so that he probably would not either this is creating in a sense an
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alibi for where this man would be or or at least him reaching out saying this is
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where I am right later after Scott was sitting in jail and law enforcement were busy building a case against him police
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traced the email account under Terry's name and traced it back to Scott's Computer ha so pays to study computer
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Uncle Terry can't be living in Mexico and sending that email that email came from Scott's Computer and so unless
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unless Terry's hiding in the basement then then that's coming from you Scott well and then they found a
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bank tell who was able to identify Scott as the person who was cashing Cher Terry's
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checks right after he supposedly went off to to Mexico so at least with this one it seems like got him got him throw
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a party so other than that where are we well now we're in December of 2008 Scott
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Kimble is sitting in jail on those weapons charges investigators had amassed all the evidence we just went
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through and interviewed Scott about 10 different times but since Leanne Uncle Terry and Jennifer had never been found
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and since Casey's cause of death was unknown the prosecutors the boulder [ __ ] I do want to point something out
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before anybody comes down too hard on us for saying for repeating that anybody that's looked into this
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case knows that that by the way the the two prosecutors the boulder [ __ ] they seem to have embraced that name that
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Scott created for them because yeah that's right we are [ __ ] we're powerful [ __ ] that are going to put
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you away well and what that shows them is that they embrace the name because they know that him coming up with that
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name means that they are getting to the Teflon con they are getting to the man that couldn't that nobody could put him
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away for a long period of time and even though they're well it's also a power move though we're getting to them
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but by saying hey want to call us [ __ ] yeah we are we're the [ __ ] that are going to put you away that's
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another thing that kind of Stokes the fire right and and you can see look we like we said we got these missing
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women to me it it helps that the prosecutors are female because he definitely has a
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dislike for females yeah yeah well yes I would agree with that 100% but I also would go take
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it a step further and say that it doesn't appear to me that anybody means anything to this guy at
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all right I agree attempted murder on his son yeah there is some rumor that he thought about killing his own mother I
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mean nobody means anything to him uh paper money is worth more to him than a loved
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one's life no but I don't even think it's it's money in the sense of like wanting to build some kind of wealth or
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or anything like that it's just it's it's him he is more important than everybody he's a complete psychopath he
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he's willing to kill his 10-year-old son to get this money so then he can continue to just live however he wants
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yeah almost uh like he feels feel like he's a God on some level so the the problem again that we pointed out is we
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don't have any bodies for three of these missing persons so they're they're going
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to have to shift gears here and this is a little unfortunate that they're going to have to do this but they need to try
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to find these missing people these missing victims and nobody at this point believes any of these three to be alive
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so unfortunately they're going to have to talking about a deal a deal with Scott Kimbell so both the prosecutors
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they drew up a memorandum of understanding to lay out the deal that they struck with Scott he would plead
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guilty to stealing $55,000 from from the optometrist and he would agree to lead investigators to the bodies of Jennifer
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markom Leanne Emery and Terry Kimbell and for this he would face only only a single count of second degree murder
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thus avoiding being prosecuted for first deegree murder which could result in a life sentence in prison or even the
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death penalty uh we should point out it was still an effect in Colorado at that time
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right so basically he's going to be charged second degree murder which would be life in prison with the possibility
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of parole um I don't believe so I actually believe that it would been less than that really and one of our prosecutors
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Catherine uh Booth she says that it was like making a deal with the devil they they nobody felt good about making this
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deal with him but where their hearts were were with the victim's families and that meant finding and locating those
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victims so this with what he's going to plead guilty too one thing that Scott would
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not be aware of that that cathina booth and uh her partner were very excited about this did allow the prosecutors to
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classify Scott Lee Kimble as a habitual offender now this status this is a status that carries a mandatory sentence
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of 48 years in prison they're going to get a very lengthy prison sentence for this guy Scott signed the plea deal in
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December of 2008 and pled guilty to one count of theft as a habitual offender then they all sat down Scott included to
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try to figure out how to find the bodies of the missing Scott drew a map to where
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he said he left Terry's body this was near Veil pass in an area that was completely covered with snow in January
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so when the map was made up they would have to wait until the snow was gone to go out and look for the remains Scott
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said that Terry was in the woods wearing clothing sneakers and glasses and bound
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inside a tarp with nylon rope now the following month Scott was issued a special release from prison so he could
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lead investigators to the places where uh Jennifer and Leanne were buried right this he says was in eastern
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Utah this features thousands of square miles of desert canyons and riverbeds so this is not an easy area to to search
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and it's a vast area at that to everyone's disappointment Scott was unable to pinpoint exactly where the
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bodies were located this even after Consulting maps and satellite imagery you do have to wonder here here Captain
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was Scott unable to pinpoint where the bodies were or unwilling to pinpoint where the bodies were yeah that's a
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tough one cuz I on one level you think well why would he do this anyways well I guess you're sitting in prison
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you got nothing better to do and you get to go out and they're and again it's all
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about him and so oh now he's important again and and but I think maybe I actually think that there's a
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possibility with some of these that he doesn't know because these are vast areas and some people think he knows
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exactly these areas and he's just lying to them which is a possibility because what will they find and what they might
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find might lead to actual more evidence to to prove that this guy is full of [ __ ] so on a second Expedition this
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again included Scott they set out in March of 2009 this time to Bryson Canyon and this time bones were found
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between some Boulders that would prove to be Leanne Emory police also found a bullet fragment which proved to match
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the 40 caliber gun owned by Scott Scott LED Searchers on multiple Wild Goose chases in in and out of canyons creek
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beds washes and Dry River beds but nothing was ever found uh nothing found of Jennifer Markham right cadaver dogs
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and excavations turned up empty police and prosecutors well he also said in an interview though that the where Jennifer
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was murdered what he claims is that he was only ever there once right where like maybe some of these other areas
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that these women were found he was there more than one time but he his claims with Jennifer markhams that he was only
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there ever once so this is where police and prosecutors are starting to question
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Scott's cooperativeness and they they're like it seems like he he's pretty happy
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to be messing with us so now they're going to go out and make another attempt to locate
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Jennifer uh with Scott insisting that Jennifer was near Leanne's body but then they get to the
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location and he changes his mind saying actually no she could be like 60 M away so this is where I think they're
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getting the vibe like this dude's messing with us and he's enjoying it so despite these efforts right but this is
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the moment in time that they uncuff him they punch each other in the face a couple times and then they beat the
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living [ __ ] out of him with with bats and what whatever right and um you know just Pummel him for hours and then then
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shoot him and be like well he ran away then you come back to the station oh where's Scott at ah he got loose he
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punched Us in the face and got away and you move on with your life you know sent
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served yeah no don't get me wrong I mean I'm I'm glad these are are good officers I I'm with you I I read about
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Scott Kim maybe there'd be better officers I hear about him and I study him and I think to myself yes on a many
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levels I would love to Dexter this [ __ ] out in the middle of nowhere but but but but sorry we're
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getting back to I think I think your your mouth has the corona back the story here so um despite all these efforts by
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law enforcement Jennifer has never been found prosecutors do believe that Scott was simply holding back the information
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on Jennifer's grave this this for several reasons their suspicions are that either he's holding this back so he
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could use it at a later time right if he needs to you know holding back something
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of value to them but remember his cousin wrote a book about Scott and in that book it's
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it's titled SLK the agent the FBI agent told the author that he believes that Scott held this
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information back because there's possibly another body is buried with or near Jennifer so he doesn't want that
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colonel so Captain with Scott refusing to fully cooperate prosecutors decide to yank
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that plea deal that they had just entered into with him a few months earlier mhm now in regards to this his
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48-year sentence would still stick so they weren't really running any risk here this is like you pointed out
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earlier why not try this you have nothing to lose type situation right but now what they can do is they believe
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they can actually prosecute him for murder so investigators received the lab results back regarding the blood stains
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that were found in Scott's Home the results showed that those stains on the carpet of Scott's uh
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former home were in fact blood and they were the blood of Terry Kimble yeah his uncle his body was found in in June of
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2009 by Searchers using the detailed map drawn for them by Scott so sure enough just like Scott said when they found the
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body Terry was tied and wrapped in tarp and he had been shot through the head and again the bullet fragment was then
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later matched to Scott's handgun yeah and the reason for this again like you said Scott doesn't care about anybody
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but his uncle he did come in to a little bit of money and he used to carry around
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a briefcase with this money and it wasn't a lot of money but it was a lot of money to Terry so he thought he was a
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big shot well he was running his mouth about this money and carrying the the the money around in his briefcase and of
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course you spoke to the wrong person yeah you you mentioned this to Scott that only cares about himself okay now I
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got to get rid of you so I can have this money well now that Scott's back is against the wall he decides that he
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wants to agree to a new plea deal so Scott ends up pleading guilty to two counts of second deegree murder in
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the deaths of Leanne Emery Jennifer Markham Casey McLoud and Terry Kimbell so they got all four murders technically
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solved right by this time at the sentencing the families of the victims were able to read Victim Impact
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statements Jennifer markham's father said quote how many other people are missing as a result of his life it's
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time for Scott to be a man and give back what he took from us Scott did not respond to this he's 43 years old at
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this time and he was sentenced to 70 years in prison with parole eligibility after 35 years when he would be doing
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the math here 78 years old it's still ridiculous that he has any hope of getting out yeah he won't get out he he
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will fail those Pro hearings possibly I mean he fooled he's fooled a lot of people and it's hard too
00:31:05
cuz I mean I know we've said you know these FBI agents were kind of stupid and and the other people that he fooled and
00:31:12
he probably could pick out gullible people but it's hard even when you see like I we talked before about him making
00:31:20
those statements in an interview that he's only been to the place that Jennifer Markham was murdered once so he
00:31:28
doesn't remember and it's like maybe he's telling the truth maybe he's lying we don't know at this point he he just
00:31:36
seems to lie about everything but he also when he talks he doesn't Bundy had this way during his interviews where it
00:31:46
was like this Cockiness and this I'm smarter than you thing and and Scott doesn't come off that way he comes off
00:31:54
very matter of fact so I I don't want to say my my biggest argument with the FBI is that you know
00:32:03
that you're getting into bed with a con man and that you need to be all eyes open ears open and focused knowing that
00:32:14
this guy is probably going to try to con you as well the other thing I noticed about him when you talk about interviews
00:32:20
with Scott Kimbell one thing that he is amazing at really his ability to answer time and time again with an answer that
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is just loaded with vagueness that doesn't really doesn't really suggest that that he's denying what you're
00:32:37
asking him or agreeing with what you're asking him right it just kind of leaves the door half open to every question
00:32:45
every possibility so Scott later tells the Daily Camera in a uh written answers to
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questions as to why he took this plea deal he says quote I'm a gambler I know a great deal when I see one I was
00:33:01
already doing 48 years for fraud why take a chance of receiving four death sentences or life sentences without
00:33:09
parole when I could put four potential murder cases to rest right in 2011 in a 47 Page Letter to his cousin
00:33:21
this is the the man that wrote the book Scott Air quotes confess to the four murders he said that he and Casey were
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alone when she ODed on the meth alcohol and oxy mix that he gave her Scott says he gave a fatal dose of
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heroin to Jennifer Markham and says that he shot both Leanne and Terry Scott's cousin Ed coet says nobody can have
00:33:52
confidence that Scott is speaking the complete truth because of his long history of lying now I think Scott is
00:34:00
trying to be honest but he has problems I think there's still things he's holding back on and I think he has
00:34:07
difficulty sometimes mentally and psychologically differentiating truth from fiction because he has had to live
00:34:15
his lies for so long I think it's part of his pathology well it's possibly part of the reason why he passed a lie
00:34:24
detector test because if you don't think it's a lie then how is it going to show
00:34:30
deception that's just one of many things that the great George castanza has taught all of us right so but I think
00:34:39
these crimes I think he was uh infatuated with Jennifer Markham well that's perfect
00:34:47
that you bring this up now because I I want to take this now that we know for certain that he committed these murders
00:34:54
we know that by his own his own statements and by all the evidence that the investigators were able to put
00:35:02
together you're you're bringing up the very interesting topic of motive right so if we start with Terry Scott comes
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out and whether you want to believe him or not it seems believable because again
00:35:15
this guy has done all these fraudulent things for money it's possible that he would then kill somebody then for money
00:35:22
and he says well you know Terry came into some money I then killed him that money and then we look at like the
00:35:29
motive of why he would want to kill his son on that $60,000 overhead as far as insurance and
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we already know that he has committed insurance fraud so is it it's not that far to go well it's another insurance
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fraud just add on murder to that MH where I think it gets interesting is the three females mhm and
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you know he meets or basically is aware of two of the females through inmates almost like
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he's envious of the inmates that's or you have these girls coming to see youing pictures of them hear stories
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from these other guys yeah and he's such a con artist that that's all he needs that little bit of an
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in and he can then be around you and I don't think necessarily that any of these women wanted him in any sexual
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manner I he might not have been he might not have even tried that angle right he
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might have just like with Jennifer Markham when when you start going okay you need a place to stay I'll give you a
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place to stay you know I'll be an answer for you and then at some point my obsession
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with you or some sexual desire is going to come out because I do believe that um Scott
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is a rapist a murderer I believe those were the motives yeah yeah well so we have
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Scott's cousin Ed coet who who would issue a statement on Scott's behalf and please do not hear what I am not
00:37:25
saying this this is Scott's words all right okay don't hear what I'm not saying these are Scott's words I mean no
00:37:33
ill will toward his cousin Ed I actually think that Ed writing the book um SLK is an attempt to help with some of
00:37:44
these investigations and help U put together a record of of what we believe to be the truth so I think Ed's trying
00:37:53
to help the case he's issuing this statement on on Scott's behalf these are Scott's words this is after Scott's
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sentencing he basically blames the FBI for his own actions and look the the words or
00:38:13
whatever that that statement that that Scott issues some could say it's interesting
00:38:20
some could say Nick could you include it would you read it and I tell you what no
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I I'm not going to read any part of that here because this is a man Scott Kimble that
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is so damn coldblooded he time and time again planned the murders of those around
00:38:38
him some of these people he was supposed to be helping some that were helping him
00:38:46
and one person that he planned to murder but thankfully it didn't work he tried to kill his 10-year-old son the only
00:38:54
person deserving of blame in any of these matters is Scott Lee Kimbell a man so evil and so cowardice that he tried
00:39:03
to kill a little boy Scott Le Kimble is not anything special even as a con man he's a loser everything this coward
00:39:13
attempted or tried to get away with he eventually failed yes it took a long time but he failed last week we spoke of
00:39:21
a letter Scott wrote regarding the man that sexually assaulted Scott when he was was young and that that man that
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cruel and cowardice man his name was Theodore pton by the way Scott says that that man dis destroyed his childhood and
00:39:36
robbed him of his innocence and I believe that to be an extremely accurate statement but Scott grew up to be and
00:39:44
decided to be a man even more cruel and cowardice than the man who stole his innocence so when we talk about motive
00:39:52
with this creep it's just not so simple as to pointing to money as the motivating factor because when we talk
00:39:59
about Scott Kimble we are discussing a psychopathic killer one that reminds me very much of Leonard Lake and HH Holmes
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or what I believe is more fun to say calling him by his real name Herman Webster
00:40:16
mudget likely we have a multitude of motives that likely varies based on the victim right financial gain covering up
00:40:25
other crime and sexual sadism and Scott claims that his major motivator was greed Scott
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wrote These are his words quote if anybody wants to know why I did what I did my answer is that I always did it
00:40:42
for the money huge amounts of money end quote but Scott is a liar he spent his whole adult life lying to everyone all
00:40:53
of the time so it's easy to believe that he is lying here as well because what huge amount of money did he get when he
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abducted and murdered his soon to be wife's daughter Casey the answer is none and then we have one of our beloved
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prosecutors Amy akobo the assistant DA who helped nail Scott said his motives were pretty simple he liked to control
00:41:24
people she said I think he red more on the ability to manipulate and control the relationship even while they were
00:41:32
still alive for a while to have that power and use them for what he could use them for while he could until he just
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didn't need it [Music] [Applause] [Music] anymore all right everybody stay safe thanks for
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joining us in the garage Nick do we have a recommended reading this week today we
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are recommending the Supreme gentleman killer the true story of an incel mass murderer by longtime friend of the show
00:42:12
and author of many great true crime books Brian Whitney this is a fascinating book about Elliot Roger
00:42:19
learn about his Twisted world and his revenge plan that resulted in the mass murder of several innocent young adults
00:42:26
the Supreme gentleman killer is available on Kendall and paperback and if you don't have time to write that
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title down right now simply go to truecrime garage.com and click on our recommended page all right until next
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week everybody be good be kind and don't [Music] litter [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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